[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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          CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. 
          THIS REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING OF COUNCIL FOR THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, MONDAY, NOVEMBER 23RD 2020. THE TIME'S SEVEN PM. 
          ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING. 
          ASK IF THERE'S ANY DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST THIS EVENING. 
          [3. DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST]
COUNCILLOR PEARCE? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. 
          I WISH TO DECLARE ON ITEM FOUR POINT ONE THE MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 9TH MEETING, SPECIFICALLY ITEM SIX POINT THREE. 
          AS THAT MATTER DEALS WITH SOMETHING THAT MY EMPLOYER HAS A CONTRACT WITH THE MUNICIPALITY. 
          I'D LIKE TO DECLARE AN INDIRECT PECUNIARY INTEREST. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER DECLARATIONS THIS EVENING? SEEING NONE WE'LL CARRY ON. 
          ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES. 
          FOUR POINT ONE NOVEMBER 9, 2020 REGULAR, CAN I HAVE MOVE TO ADOPT THE MINUTES, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR CYR. 
          SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER. 
          ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS OR CONCERNS? 
          [4. ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES]
WE'RE LIVE, WE'RE NOT LIVE, SO WE'RE NOT ON EASTLINK. 
          WE'RE ON THE WEBSITE. OK, ANY CONCERNS WITH THE MINUTES ? THEN I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE, THEN ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIED. THANK YOU. HOPEFULLY WE GET THIS EASTLINK SORTED OUT. 
          SOONER THAN LATER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE DROPPING OFF EASTLINK BECAUSE THEY CAN'T WATCH COUNCIL. 
          FOUR POINT TWO READING OF A RESOLUTION PASSED FOLLOWING THE CLOSED SESSION OF NOVEMBER 9TH, 2020 COUNCIL MEETING. 
          MS. BRAY, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. 
          MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER. 
          THAT COUNCIL APPROVED THE TENTATIVE AGREEMENT WITH C.U.P.E. 
          LOCAL 170 IN PRINCIPLE, AS DISCLOSED AT THE NOVEMBER 9TH, 2020 MEETING OF COUNCIL, AND THAT THE REQUIRED BYLAW BE PASSED FOLLOWING C.U.P.E. 
          LOCAL RATIFICATION VOTE. 
          THANK YOU. MR. GAGNON IT JUST A QUESTION BEFORE WE CARRY ON, SINCE WE'RE NOT ON EASTLINK AGAIN, CAN WE ENSURE THAT OUR COUNCIL MEETING IS ACTUALLY PLAYED AT A FUTURE TIME? BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT DO RELY ON WATCHING THE LIVESTREAM AT SEVEN O'CLOCK MONDAYS TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS ON OUR AGENDA. 
          ABSOLUTELY. JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS NOT WITH US. 
          THE PROBLEM IS WITH EASTLINK. 
          BUT I WILL DO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND SUGGEST THAT THEY DO FOR TOWN HALLS OR THEY REBROADCAST THE MEETING. 
          I CAN CERTAINLY DEPENDING HOW LONG THE MEETING ENDS UP BEING AND WHATNOT. 
          WE'LL CERTAINLY BRING THAT UP WITH THEM. 
          AND I'LL ALSO MAKE THE POINT. 
          YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT THEY MIGHT BE LOSING SUBSCRIBERS IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO TUNE INTO CABLE 10. SO WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN. 
          ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILLOR PATRIE? ARE WE ALSO GETTING A REBATE FOR ALL THESE TIMES THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR TIME, AIR TIME THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING? PROBLEM IS. I'M NOT SURE WE'RE PAYING FOR ANY OF THESE SERVICES. 
          SO MAYBE THE EQUIPMENT IS ON THERE AND I HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. 
          BUT I BELIEVE IT'S A COMMUNITY SERVICE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING. 
          BUT I'LL CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THE LEGALITIES OF THAT. 
          THANK YOU. THERE'S NO PUBLIC PRESENTATION THIS EVENING. 
          SIX INTRODUCTION CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORT, SIX POINT ONE MEMO FROM THE CITY CLERK. APPOINTMENTS TO COMMITTEES AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH PERSONAL INFORMATION ABOUT IDENTIFIABLE INDIVIDUALS MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 239 2B OF THE 
          [6. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS]
[INAUDIBLE]. CAN I HAVE A MOVE TO PUT THAT IN CLOSED? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR CYR. SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? QUALMS, QUERIES? SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR. 
          THAT'S CARRIED TO CLOSE. 
          THANK YOU. SIX POINT TWO, A MEMO FROM THE CITY CLERK REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF RESIDENTIAL LOT, AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH PERSONAL INFORMATION ABOUT IDENTIFIABLE INDIVIDUALS AS WELL AS THE POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OF LAND BY THE MUNICIPALITY, MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 239 2BNC OF THE [INAUDIBLE] MOVE TO PUT THAT IN CLOSED SESSION? MOVED BY COUNCIL PATRIE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR MAMN. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED OVER TO CLOSED ALSO. 
          SIX POINT THREE REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS DEMOLITION AND SITE RESTORATION AT FORTY SIX ONTARIO AVENUE AND 22 PHILIP WALK. 
          RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS ON NOVEMBER 18TH BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL APPROVES SEVENTY THOUSAND FIVE SEVENTY FIVE PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES FOR THE DEMOLITION AND SITE RESTORATION AT BOTH 46 ONTARIO AVENUE AND 22 PHILIP WALK TO WENDELL FRAQUHAR TRUCKING LIMITED. 
          CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE. 
          MR. HALLOCH, FIRE AWAY. 
          YEAH, THIS WILL BE A REGURGITATION OF INFORMATION THAT WAS ALREADY OUT AT ONE OF THE OTHER MEETINGS. BUT FOR ANY OF THE NEW LISTENERS AT HOME, A BACKGROUND ON THIS IS IN LATE FALL 
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OF 2018, THE BUILDING KNOWN AS FORTY SIXTH AVENUE OR FORTY SIX ONTARIO AVENUE, ACCURATELY FACING PHILIP WALK, WAS VESTED IN THE CITY'S NAME FOLLOWING FAILED TAX SALES UNDER MUNICIPAL TAX SALES ACT. 
          IN 2019, THE INTERIOR WAS GUTTED TO THE STUDS, AND IN DECEMBER 2019, THE CITY DECLARED THE PROPERTY SURPLUS AND WAS PREPARING TO SELL THE BUILDING TO THE ELLIOT LAKE EMERGENCY FOOD BANK. AS PART OF THE DUE DILIGENCE ON THE TRANSACTION, AN INSPECTION WAS CARRIED OUT THAT IDENTIFIED SOME STRUCTURAL ISSUES THAT SCUTTLED THE DEAL WITH THE FOOD BANK. 
          THE DEAL WAS NEVER CLOSED, AN ESTIMATE OF 100000 WOULD BE NEEDED TO ADDRESS THE STRUCTURAL ISSUES, LEAVING THE BUILDING STILL NEEDING EXTENSIVE INTERIOR RENOVATIONS TO MAKE THE SPACE FUNCTIONAL. 
          CITY STAFF IS CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE FOOD BANK FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO ASSIST THEM. THE IMMEDIATE ADJACENT PROPERTY AT 22 PHILIP WALK WAS TAX ARREARS IN A SIMILAR TIMELINE. THE COVID PANDEMIC'S SLOWED THE PROCESS THROUGHOUT THE 2020. 
          IN OCTOBER OF 2020, THE PROPERTY WAS VESTED IN THE NAME OF THE MUNICIPALITY. 
          SO 22 PHILIP WALK IS ALSO IN VERY POOR CONDITION, REQUIRING EXTENSIVE RENOVATIONS. 
          A STAIRCASE WAS REMOVED FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE BUILDING HAS BEEN ORDERED NOT TO OCCUPY PLACED ON IT. ONCE THE DECISION TO DEMOLISH WAS BOTH BUILDINGS WAS MADE BY COUNCIL. 
          [INAUDIBLE] WAS ENGAGED TO PREPARE A TENDER PACKAGE AND DISTRIBUTE IT TO INVITED CONTRACTORS WITH THE CREDENTIALS TO PERFORM THE DEMOLITION AND SITE RESTORATION WORK PACKAGE OF SERVICES. 
          THE TENDER CLOSED ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER THE 12TH AT 2:00 P.M., AND A PUBLIC OPENING WAS PERFORMED AT THE PUBLIC OFFICE. 
          A REPORT OF BIDS AND AN IN-DEPTH REVIEW OF SUBMISSIONS WAS PROVIDED TO THE CITY ON NOVEMBER 16TH, WHICH IS ATTACHED. 
          FROM THE ATTACHED LETTER FROM [INAUDIBLE]. 
          THE RESULTS ARE AS FOLLOWS FROM LOWEST TO HIGHEST, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES A 25000 DOLLAR CONTINGENCY INCLUDED IN THE PRICE. 
          WENDELL FARQUHAR TRUCKING LIMITED WAS THE SEVENTY THOUSAND. 
          THE LOW BID AT SEVENTY THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE PLUS HST. 
          COLLINS HAULAGE WAS ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTEEN THOUSAND OR TWO HUNDRED PLUS HST AND BEMIS CONSTRUCTION WAS ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED FIFTY PLUS HST. 
          THERE WERE MATHEMATICAL ERRORS THAT WERE CORRECTED AND EVERYTHING  WAS SET FORWARD WITH THE PRICES THAT WE SEE THERE. 
          THE DEMOLITION AND RESTORATION COST OF SEVENTY THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES WILL BE BUDGETED TOWARDS THE WORKING FUNDS RESERVE. 
          THIS COST INCLUDES A CONTINGENCY ONCE AGAIN OF TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND. 
          THE TWO LOW BIDS WERE REVIEWED CAREFULLY. 
          THE ENGINEER HAS EXPRESSED AN OPINION THAT EITHER COULD EXECUTE THE PROVISIONS OF THE WORK. THE DETAILS OF EXECUTION ARE SUFFICIENTLY DOCUMENTED IN THE TENDER PACKAGE. 
          TO ENSURE THE RESULTS OF THE PROJECT IS TO HAVE BOTH PROPERTIES PREPARED FOR REDEVELOPMENT AND THAT THE DEMOLITION DEBRIS IS DISPOSED OF IN THE PROPER MANNER. 
          THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE OF ANY BID OR THE BID TO WARRANT EXCLUSION ON TECHNICAL POINTS. 
          IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT COUNCIL APPROVED THE BID THE LOW BID OF SEVENTY THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES TO WENDELL FARQUHAR TRUCKING TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. AND ON ANOTHER NOTE TOO AHEAD OF TIME SO EVERYONE IS AWARE TOO IN THE PACKAGE THERE WAS A. ASBESTOS TESTING WAS COMPLETED ON BOTH BUILDINGS, AND IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF PROPERLY, AND THERE'S ONLY VERY MINOR OF A SCHEDULE ONE, WHICH ISN'T ANYTHING [INAUDIBLE], AND IT'LL ALL BE DISPOSED OF PROPERLY. 
          SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE? YES, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THROUGH YOU, MR. HALLOCH. I'M CURIOUS, I GUESS, WOULD BE THE RIGHT WORD IS WHY THERE IS SUCH A MAJOR DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE LOW BID AND THE HIGH BID, I MEAN, THE WORK WAS LAID OUT PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. THAT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. 
          EVEN THE SECOND HIGHEST BIDDER WAS OVER FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS HIGHER. 
          AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN, I GUESS, FIRST OF ALL, ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT THE LOW BID CAN BE DONE AT THAT PRICE? AND IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHY THERE WOULD BE SUCH A MAJOR DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE OTHER TWO? YEAH, I'M JUST FOR THE DIFFERENCE IN BIDDING AS A COMPANY COMING FROM OUT OF TOWN ON THAT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT MAJOR MOBILIZATION COSTS FOR COMING TO AND TAKING AWAY. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A FACTOR NOW THAT THEY'RE THEY HAVE A LOT OF WORK. 
          BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIDS THAT WE GOT BACK AND PROBABLY REALIZED FROM PAST JOBS THAT THERE IS MORE INVOLVED. BUT I DEFINITELY HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THE LOW BID CAN DO THE JOB. 
          BUT THAT IS WHAT MAJORITY OF THE ACTUAL COSTS ARE IS GOING TO BE MOBILIZATIONS. 
          OK, THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILLOR PATRIE? THANK YOU, THROUGH YOU. 
          FIRST OFF UNDER THE ANALYSIS WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE IN-DEPTH REVIEW IS ATTACHED. 
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I WOULD LIKE THAT REPORT CHANGED TO SAY NOT ATTACHED BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN IT AND IT IS NOT ATTACHED. WE DON'T HAVE THAT AS COUNCIL. 
          I'M NOT OVERLY CONCERNED, I DO HAVE FAITH IN [INAUDIBLE] GOING THROUGH THE BIDS AND YOU GUYS GOING THROUGH THEM. THIS IS A STANDARD DEMOLITION. 
          FOR THE PEOPLE AT HOME. 
          THE BID'S ACTUALLY FORTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS, THAT TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS IS IN CASE THERE'S ANY WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE TO PROTECT THE TWO ADJOINING BUILDINGS ON EITHER SIDE, BECAUSE THIS IS THE MIDDLE OF A STRIP. 
          SO IT'S ACTUALLY NOT THAT BAD, IN MY OPINION, FORTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DO THAT WORK TO REMOVE ALL OF THAT. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF APPROVING IT AT THAT. 
          BUT I WANT THE REPORT TO REFLECT CORRECTLY THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT DOCUMENT THAT SAYS IT'S ATTACHED. OK, NO PROBLEM, I COULD DO THAT, AND, YEAH, YOU'RE CORRECT ON THE CONTINGENCY, SO IT'S JUST IN THE UNFORESEEN THINGS, AND ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S ANY STRUCTURAL WORK NEEDED AFTER IT'S TAKEN DOWN ON EITHER THE OTHER BUILDINGS. 
          SO. 
          COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? THANK YOU, THROUGH YOU, MR. MAYOR, TO MR. HALLOCH. WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME AND WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE DONE? IF APPROVED BY COUNCIL. 
          THIS IS GOING TO BE DONE PRETTY MUCH RIGHT AWAY. 
          THERE WON'T BE. WE WERE LOOKING AT IF IT'S NOT STARTING NEXT WEEK COULD BE THE WEEK RIGHT AFTER. SO RIGHT AWAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? OK. I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE THEN. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED. SIX POINT FOUR REPORT FROM THE MANAGER OF RECREATION AND CULTURE CIVIC AWARD RECIPIENT FOR 2020, AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH PERSONAL INFORMATION ABOUT IDENTIFIABLE INDIVIDUALS MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 239 2B [INAUDIBLE] CAN HAVE A MOVE TO PUT THAT IN CLOSED SESSION ALSO? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. 
          SECOND BY COUNCILLOR MANN. 
          QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED OVER TO CLOSED. 
          SIX POINT FIVE MEMO FROM THE CITY CLERK, RESIGNATION FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED NOTIFICATION FROM MARIE MURPHY-FORAN, EDO TEN BROEK AND LAURIE BLAKE OF THEIR RESIGNATION FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOLLOWING RESOLUTIONS RECOMMENDED THAT THE RESIGNATION OF MARIE MURPHY-FORAN, EDO TEN BROEK AND LAURIE BLAKE FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE BE RECEIVED WITH REGRETS. 
          CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR CYR, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. 
          DEFINITELY SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER INITIATIVES AND COMMITTEES FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND OUR COMMUNITY DEVOTED MUCH TIME. 
          SO IT IS DEFINITELY WITH REGRETS THAT YOU SEE THEM GO. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO PERSONALLY THANK MARIE AND EDO AND LAURIE FOR THEIR EXTENSIVE WORK FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COUNCILLOR PATRIE? I'D JUST LIKE TO COMMENT. 
          I'VE SAT ON THE BOARD THESE BOARDS WITH SOME OF THESE PEOPLE FOR MORE THAN DECADES AND IT'S VERY SAD. IT'S NOT JUST WITH REGRETS. 
          IT'S VERY, VERY SAD TO SEE US LOSING PEOPLE THAT HAVE PUT THAT MANY HOURS AND YEARS INTO WORKING ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          TO SEE THEM BE LEAVING IN THESE NUMBERS THAT I'M JUST REALLY SORRY TO SEE THEM ALL GO. 
          COUNCILLOR PEARCE? I WOULD CERTAINLY ECHO COUNCILLOR PATRIE'S STATEMENT, I THINK IT'S A VERY SAD DAY. I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY A FOURTH RESIGNATION THAT WAS RECEIVED AS WELL. CAM. 
          I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS LAST NAME ALSO, WAS SENT IN. 
          WHETHER IT GOT TO THE CLERK ON TIME. 
          I DON'T KNOW. BUT AGAIN, I THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN PEOPLE OF THAT QUALITY ARE LEAVING VOLUNTEER COMMITTEES AND. 
          I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. 
          I REALLY DO. COUNCILLOR CYR? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO ALL THE COMMENTS MADE TONIGHT. 
          THIS IS ACTUALLY A TRAGEDY FOR ELLIOT LAKE. 
          COUNCILLOR PATRIE SAID, WE'RE LOSING DECADES OF EXPERIENCE HERE AND PEOPLE WHO WOULD GIVE. DOZENS OF HOURS PER WEEK FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HELP MAKE ELLIOT LAKE A BETTER PLACE. 
          POST MALL COLLAPSE, THESE PEOPLE PUT IN HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS TO HELP US REBOUND. 
          AND I THINK WE THERE WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE. 
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TO SHOW BETTER APPRECIATION FOR THE EFFORTS DONE BY OUR VOLUNTEERS, AND WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER BETTER. THIS IS A FAILURE OF US WORKING TOGETHER, SO I THINK WE BUT THIS IS THE SIGNAL WE'RE GETTING. 
          WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO WORK ON THAT. 
          THAT IS A BIG SORE POINT HERE. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENT, COUNCILLOR TURNER? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I AM DISAPPOINTED THAT THE THESE MEMBERS HAVE CHOSEN TO RESIGN, BUT I UNDERSTAND I THINK IT'S A SIGN OF THEIR FRUSTRATION WHEN WE HAVEN'T HAD MEETINGS FOR NINE MONTHS, PROJECTS THAT DIFFERENT ADVISORY COMMITTEES ARE WORKING ON COME TO A GRINDING HALT. 
          THEY THE CITY WAS DEALING WITH EVER CHANGING SITUATIONS AND INFORMATION FROM HIGHER GOVERNMENTS ABOUT HOW THINGS WERE GOING, WHETHER WE COULD PLAN WAS VERY LIMITED. 
          AND THE END RESULT WAS WE WEREN'T COMMUNICATING WITH OUR VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE WE HAD NO INFORMATION THAT WE COULD COUNT ON TO TELL THEM THAT WE WERE GETTING BACK TOGETHER, PURSUING PROJECTS. 
          SO THE TUMBLING DOMINO EFFECT HERE WAS THAT. 
          WELL, PERHAPS COUNCIL MAY HAVE HAD MORE INFORMATION AND VERY LIMITED, I WOULD THINK. 
          THE VOLUNTEERS HAD LITTLE OR NOTHING, AND SO I THINK WE COULD HAVE BEEN DONE A BETTER JOB WHEN IT CAME TO COMMUNICATING WITH THEM. 
          I UNDERSTAND THEIR FRUSTRATION. 
          I'M SORRY THAT THEY'VE CHOSEN TO LEAVE THE COMMITTEE. 
          WE WILL MISS THEM. 
          I WORKED WITH MANY OF THEM FOR AT LEAST A DECADE, AND I KNOW THEIR VALUE. 
          I WISH THEY HAD STAYED BECAUSE IT'S A LOT EASIER TO CHANGE THINGS FROM THE INSIDE THAN. 
          BY LEAVING. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, THANK YOU. 
          OK. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? AGAIN, VERY, VERY SAD TO SEE THEM GO. 
          WE HAVE A RESOLUTION ON THE TABLE THAT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED AND I'D CALL FOR THE VOTE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? OK, THAT'S CARRIED. 
          THANK YOU. SIX POINT SIX MEMO FROM THE CITY CLERK, ROMA 2021 VIRTUAL CONFERENCE SEEKS THE COUNCIL MAY WISH TO CONSIDER PASSING THE RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE ATTENDANCE AT THE ROMA 2021 VIRTUAL CONFERENCE, WHICH WOULD BE A TWO DAY PROGRAM THAT ADDRESSES TOPICAL AND IMPORTANT ISSUES FACING RURAL MUNICIPALITIES. 
          AND THE EARLY BIRD RATE ENDS DECEMBER 31ST IS 400 PER MEMBER, AFTER THAT, IT'LL BE 450 MEMBER. REQUESTS FOR VIRTUAL MEETING WITH MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY SYSTEM CAN BE MADE UP AT NOVEMBER 30TH, 2020. 
          OR UP TO AND THE RESOLUTION SHOULD BE PASSED TO ADDRESS A NUMBER OF COUNCILLORS AND STAFF ATTENDING AND AUTHORIZING EXPENSES PAID BY MUNICIPALITY, TYPICALLY THE MAYOR, TWO COUNCILLORS, MEMBER OF SENIOR STAFF ARE AUTHORIZED TO ATTEND THIS CONFERENCE. 
          IS ANYONE WILLING TO PUT A MOTION ON THE TABLE? COUNCILLOR TURNER? I MOVE THAT THE COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE ATTENDANCE, VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE BY MEMBERS OF THE ROMA CONFERENCE FOR 2021. 
          IS THERE A SECONDER FOR THE MOTION? FOR DISCUSSION COUNCILLOR MANN, THANK YOU. 
          OPEN FOR DISCUSSION COUNCILLOR MANN? I GUESS I GUESS I HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, I, I DID ATTEND AND AGAIN, NO DISRESPECT TO ANY OF OUR PROVINCIAL ASSOCIATIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE MOVING THROUGH DIFFICULT TIMES. AND I KNOW THAT WE STILL HAVE TO SUPPORT THOSE. 
          HOWEVER, ATTENDING AMO OR ATTEMPTING TO ATTEND AMO LAST SUMMER, AS I DID, I FOUND IT QUITE PROBLEMATIC. 
          I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH OUR CAO AND ONE MEMBER OF COUNCIL BEING THAT YOURSELF, YOUR WORSHIP, ATTEND. HOWEVER, IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET DELEGATIONS, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, THE MINISTER SHOULD BE THERE. 
          AND IF IT'S PART OF THE PROGRAM, IN ORDER TO GET THOSE DELEGATIONS, I GUESS I WOULD HAVE 
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A CONCERN WITH THAT, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD SCALE IT BACK JUST FOR, I THINK, MATERIAL ALONE. THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. 
          COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? THANK YOU. 
          HAVING ATTENDED ONE LAST SUMMER THAT VIRTUALLY AND PAYING WE PAID MONEY FOR THOSE THAT ATTENDED TO ATTEND, I REALIZED WE SAVED MONEY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY HOTELS AND THAT, BUT. THEN WHEN IT CAME TO OUR MINISTER APPOINTMENTS, I DON'T BELIEVE WE MET WITH THE MINISTER, IN FACT, ONE OF THE MINISTERS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MEET WITH TOURING SOMEWHERE IN THE PROVINCE, AND THE ASSISTANT THAT WAS THERE THOUGHT THAT THEY WAS ACTUALLY AN ELLIOT LAKE AND HAS NO IDEA WHERE ELLIOT LAKE IS. 
          SO I THINK WE GOT AN EMAIL A FEW WEEKS AGO SAYING IF WE DON'T PAY, WE DON'T GET MINISTER VISITS. WE PAID, WE DIDN'T GET THE MINISTER VISITS. 
          SO I KNOW THAT THEIR PARLIAMENTARY ASSISTANTS AND THEIR STAFFERS CARRY THE MESSAGE AND HAVE INFORMATION, BUT. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SAID THE OTHER THING, THAT BECAUSE IT'S A VIRTUAL AND WE'RE NOT GETTING HOTELS, THAT WE COULD ALL PAY FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE IT WOULD STILL BE MUCH CHEAPER THAN ATTENDING AND GOING AND TRAVELING AND MEALS, WHATNOT. 
          BUT I JUST DON'T SEE THE VALUE. 
          I'M SORRY. AND IF STAFF FEELS THAT THEY SHOULD KEEP THE CONNECTION AND ONE COUNCILLOR, I'M OK WITH THAT. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I WOULDN'T, I'D SPEND THE MONEY AND SENDING A DELEGATION TO TORONTO TO ACTUALLY MEET WITH A MINISTER AT A DIFFERENT TIME. 
          COUNCILLOR PATRIE? I'M SORT OF IN AGREEMENT. 
          I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR TWO. 
          I GET IT. IF WE HAVE TO PAY FOR ONE SO THAT WE CAN GET THE MINISTER MEETINGS THAT WE DON'T GET. I'M WILLING TO AUTHORIZE PAYING FOR ONE SO THAT WE'RE AT LEAST ON THE BOOKS. 
          MOST OF THE STUFF AT ROMA IS STRICTLY MINISTERS AND STAFF SPEAKING, TELLING US WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHAT THEY'RE NOT DOING. 
          WE GET THAT INFORMATION REGARDLESS. 
          OUR STAFF IS DEALING WITH THEIR STAFF CONTINUALLY. 
          TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY. 
          TO GO AND LISTEN TO WHAT THEY'RE STATING AT THEIR FORUMS, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. 
          BUT SEEING AS WE DO HAVE TO PAY AT LEAST THE FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS SO THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY GET FACE TIME WITH MINISTERS, I AGREE THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT PORTION, BUT AGAIN, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME FACE TIME AND LIKE LAST ROUND WE GOT NOTHING. 
          SO IT'S VIRTUALLY A SLAP IN THE FACE. 
          SO YOU'RE SPENDING MONEY FOR NOTHING, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO SPEND AT LEAST THE FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS TO ATTEMPT IT. 
          OTHER COMMENTS? MR. GAGNON? JUST FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. NOBODY ASKED MY OPINION, BUT THAT'S FINE. 
          ONE IS PLENTY AS LONG AS WE HAVE ONE TO KEEP OUR FOOT IN THE DOOR. 
          AND THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO, YOU KNOW, TO SHARE THE FEED OR BRING BACK THE INFORMATION TO AT LEAST KEEP THE FOOT IN THE DOOR FOR THE MINISTERS MEETINGS. 
          AND OFF TOP OF MY HEAD, I THINK THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, CONSERVATION AND PARKS FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] WOULD BE A LOGICAL ONE. 
          ASIDE FROM THAT, THERE AREN'T VERY MANY PRESSING FILES RIGHT AT THIS GIVEN MOMENT, GIVEN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM THE MINISTER OF INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I THINK ONE REGISTERED DELEGATION, WHETHER IT'S STAFF OR COUNCIL, DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. 
          AS LONG AS WE'VE GOT ONE DELEGATE WHO CAN, CAN GET THE FOOT IN THE DOOR FOR THE DELEGATIONS AND THEN SEE WHERE THE REST TAKES US. 
          OK. NOW, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE FOR SURE, ATTEMPTING THE VIRTUAL AMO CONFERENCE THIS SUMMER. 
          IT'S NOT THE SAME. YOU DON'T HAVE THE SAME IMPACT AS ATTENDING THESE THINGS IN PERSON. 
          A LOT OF IT IS NOT JUST THE TRAINING SESSIONS AND SO ON. 
          THAT GOES ON, BUT ACTUALLY MEETING WITH THE MINISTERS, THE STAFFERS, THE ASSISTANTS AND SO ON, HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THEM AFTER AND CHAT SOME MORE. 
          THE IMPACT OF THAT IN PERSON TIME, THAT'S WHERE YOU MAKE IT MEMORABLE. 
          THAT'S WHERE YOU MAKE YOUR COMMUNITY MEMORABLE, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU MAKE LASTING FRIENDSHIPS. DOING THINGS OVER THE LAPTOP, AS WE DID WITH AMO, LEFT ME SORE AND SOUR, THAT'S FOR SURE. I THINK THERE WAS ONE MEETING WHERE I SAID I WASN'T GOING TO SAY A WORD, AND THEN I GOT FRUSTRATED BECAUSE AS COUNCILLOR FINAMORE STATED THEY WERE IN ELLIOT LAKE, THEY WERE NOT IN ELLIOT LAKE. 
          AND SHE SAID, WELL, MAYBE ELK LAKE. 
          AND I SAID, I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT'S THIS PROVINCE. 
          BUT ANYWAY, THAT IT'S VERY, VERY FRUSTRATING. 
          I'M OK WITH I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE PLUS STAFF OR JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL SO 
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THAT WE CAN ATTEMPT TO ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING WITH ONE OF THE MINISTERS. 
          PERSONALLY, I'M OK WITH WAITING UNTIL THE COVID STARTS TO RUN DOWN AND GET BACK TO ONCE THE PROVINCE STARTS BUDGETING PROPERLY AND GETTING BACK INTO THE REAL WORLD, ATTENDING THESE THINGS IN PERSON. 
          I HAVE NO PROBLEM IF WE HAVE A DELEGATION TO HOP IN A VEHICLE AND DO A DAY TRIP TO GO AND SEE WITH MINISTERS WOULDN'T BE A FIRST TIME. 
          SO IT'S UP TO COUNCIL. 
          I'M HEARING POTENTIALLY ONE JUST TO HAVE OUR FOOT IN THE DOOR. 
          I SEE NODDING HEADS. 
          DO YOU NEED THAT A RESOLUTION MS. BRAY? OK, SO WE'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE THEN. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU. SIX POINT SEVEN REPORT FROM THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER, 2020 TRIAL OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE PROCESS. 
          FIND THIS HERE. SO RECOMMENDATION OF THE REPORT, A CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER DATED NOVEMBER 18TH, 2020 BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL ABANDONED THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE STRUCTURE AND RETURN TO STANDING COMMITTEES BEGINNING JANUARY 2021. 
          AND STAFF BE DIRECTED TO PREPARE ANY REQUIRED AMENDMENTS TO PROCEDURAL BYLAW ACCORDINGLY. 
          SO A MOVER. 
          MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE. 
          MR. GAGNON? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD PREEMPT THE TRIAL, THE TRIAL WAS SET, THE COMMITTEE, THE WHOLE TRIAL PERIOD WAS SET TO END AT THE END MID TO LATE JANUARY. 
          I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD, ARE WE GOING TO LEARN ANY MORE BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY ON THE COMMITTEE, THE WHOLE COMPARED TO THE STANDING COMMITTEES? I THINK WE'VE GOT A GLIMPSE OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE PREEMPTED BY COVID AND THEN, YOU KNOW, EXTEND IT TO JANUARY. 
          IT WOULD APPEAR TO ME THAT THE COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE JUST KIND OF PERPETUATES THE STIGMA THAT WE'RE IN A PERPETUAL COUNCIL MEETING. 
          EVERY MEETING TURNS INTO THE POMP AND CIRCUMSTANCE OF A COUNCIL MEETING, WHETHER YOU'RE IN COMMITTEE OR NOT. AND THAT THAT'S THE MAIN CONCERN I HAVE WITH IT, IS COMMITTEES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE NOT TOTALLY INFORMAL, BUT A LITTLE BIT MORE FREE FLOWING, A LITTLE LESS FORMAL. 
          AND WE JUST MAYBE IT'S JUST THE FACT THAT WE'RE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, BUT IT JUST ENDS UP FEELING LIKE WE'RE IN A PERPETUAL COMMITTEE OR A COUNCIL MEETING. 
          AND IT ALSO PLACES THE BURDEN OF ON THE CLERK TO BE PERPETUALLY PREPARING AGENDAS, MINUTES, YOU KNOW, CHASING DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR AGENDA ITEMS ON WEDNESDAYS, POSTING ON THURSDAYS, AND THEN YOU'RE BACK AT IT AGAIN. 
          AS SOON AS YOU'RE DONE YOUR MINUTES, YOU'RE BACK INTO IT AGAIN. 
          SO AND WHAT WE HAVE ALSO IN YOUR CHART LATER, IT WOULD MAKE SOME SENSE TO FREE UP SOME OF THAT TO OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS SO THAT OUR NEW DIRECTOR OF CLERKS AND PLANNING SERVICES CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FOCUSED ON THE BIGGER PICTURE. 
          THAT'S JUST MY RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE COUNCIL. 
          OF COURSE, IT'S YOUR COMMITTEE STRUCTURE AND COUNCIL CAN DETERMINE WHAT WORKS BEST FOR THEM. BUT I'M ALSO GLEANING FROM SOME OF THE COMMENTS I'VE HEARD AS WELL, THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE OF A FOCUS ON EACH SORT OF DEPARTMENT IF WE WERE TO GO BACK TO THE STANDING COMMITTEES AS OPPOSED TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WHICH KIND OF WASHES AWAY THE THE FOCUS OF SOME WOULD SAY THE BYLAW AND PLANNING COMMITTEES WHERE YOU COULD SPEND MORE TIME GETTING INTO BYLAWS AND PLANNING MATTERS. 
          INSTEAD, WE'RE IN A PERPETUAL COUNCIL MEETING. 
          THAT'S JUST A SUMMARY OF MY STAFF REPORTERS, A FEW POINTS IN THERE THAT I DIDN'T COVER, BUT IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL AT THE END OF THE DAY HOW YOU WANT TO HANDLE THE COMMITTEE. 
          BUT IF WE WERE TO ABANDON THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE IT WOULD MAKE SOME SENSE TO DO THAT, START THE PROCESS NOW SO THAT WE COULD RETURN TO STANDING COMMITTEES IN THE NEW YEAR. 
          AND TWENTY ONE. OK, THANK YOU. 
          LET'S START OUT WITH I'M TORN. 
          I DON'T I DON'T MIND COMMITTEE THE WHOLE I DIDN'T MIND STANDING COMMITTEES EITHER. 
          I JUST FIND THAT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE I'LL USE MR. HALLOCK AS AN EXAMPLE, GIVES HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING ITEMS EVERY SECOND WEEK AND CONTINUE OPERATIONS FLOWING FAIRLY SMOOTHLY AND QUICKLY. 
          SAME WITH [INAUDIBLE] WHEN THEIR STUFF. 
          THEY'RE NOT WAITING THAT MONTH UNTIL THEIR STANDING COMMITTEE IS COMING UP. 
          BUT IT'S ALSO THE ACCESSIBILITY AND PLANNING FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 
          THEY KNOW EVERY MONDAY NIGHT AT SEVEN O'CLOCK THEY CAN WATCH COUNCIL, WHETHER IT'S A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE OR IN A COUNCIL MEETING. 
          SO THEY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          WE ALSO HAVE ONE OTHER GLARING ISSUE THAT PERHAPS COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO REVISIT IF WE GO BACK TO STANDING COMMITTEES. 
          LAST NOVEMBER 25TH, COUNCIL REMOVED COUNCILLOR PATRIE FROM ALL COMMITTEES OTHER THAN COMMITTEES THAT ARE OF WHOLE COUNCIL. 
          SO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE COUNCILLOR PATRIE IS A PART OF OUR COMMITTEE. 
          SO IF WE GO BACK TO STANDING WITH SOMETHING, WE MIGHT HAVE TO REVISIT IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO THOSE ARE MY OPENING COMMENTS. 
          COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. 
          I HAVE BROACHED THE SUBJECT WITH MR. 
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GAGNON FOR A FEW WEEKS NOW. 
          I'VE BEEN VERY VOCAL FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW. 
          I DON'T I DON'T VALUE THE TIME SPENT AT COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE AS MUCH AS I DID THE STANDING COMMITTEES BECAUSE THEY WERE MORE FOCUSED. 
          MR. HALLOCH'S DONE A VERY GOOD JOB OF BRINGING HIS ISSUES FORWARD. 
          BUT SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE IT'S THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUES THAT WE'RE GETTING TO SEE. 
          AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE MORE FOCUS MEETINGS ON BYLAW AND PLANNING ON FINANCE AND AUDIT AND PARKS AND REC. 
          I JUST FEEL THAT THE OTHER THE WAY THAT THE OTHER SYSTEM WENT WAS MUCH MORE FOCUSED AND WE GOT MORE WORK DONE. 
          I FEEL NOW WE JUST DEAL WITH THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG EACH MEETING, AND WE'RE NOT DELVING INTO THE DEPTHS OF EACH DEPARTMENT AS WE NEED TO BE. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND I'M QUITE PREPARED TO GO BACK BEFORE NOVEMBER 25TH AND RESUME THINGS AS THEY WERE. 
          AND LET'S WE'VE GOT A FULL COMPLEMENT OF STAFF NOW. 
          SO LET'S ROLL LET'S GET DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 
          I FEEL LIKE I'M ALWAYS AT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE SITTING ON THE EDGE WAITING FOR THE THE ACTION AND THE WORK TO HAPPEN. 
          NOT THAT WHAT WE DON'T DO IS VALUABLE. 
          AND I'M OK WITH EVERY MONDAY NIGHT, IF THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE OUR STANDING COMMITTEE MEETING, SO THAT IF WE HAVE THEM IN THE EVENING, THEN MONDAYS IS FINE WITH ME. 
          IT'S NOT THE TIME SPENT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR. 
          I'M HERE TO SERVE. IT'S JUST I WANT THAT TIME TO BE VALUABLE FOR THE STAFF AS WELL AS FOR COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT OUR CLERK IS BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL WITH THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. AND I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE SHARED MORE EQUITABLY WITH OUR WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT TALENTED DEPARTMENT HEADS. 
          AND I THINK THAT THEY CAN DO THEIR SHARE OF THE OF THE WORK. 
          AND I JUST. 
          I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO DO IT. 
          WE'VE TRIED IT. WE'VE SEEN HOW IT WORKED. 
          FOR ME IT DOESN'T WORK. AND I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE A MORE FOCUSED WAYS TO ACCOMPLISH A LOT AT A BYLAW AND PLANNING MEETING ONCE A MONTH. 
          AND WE'RE ABLE TO VET OUT WHAT NEEDED TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD, WHAT NEEDED TO BE GO TO STAFF. AND THE SAME WITH FINANCE AND AUDIT. 
          AND I JUST I JUST THINK THAT WE'D BE SERVING THE PEOPLE BETTER IF WE COULD FOCUS BETTER. 
          THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR CYR? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH, YOU. 
          KEEPING THE PRESENCE [INAUDIBLE] OF THE WHOLE, IN MY OPINION, IS THE MORE ACCESSIBLE OPTION BEING THAT THE MEETINGS ARE CONSISTENTLY ON EVERY SECOND MONDAY ALLOWING CITIZENS TO PLAN TO VIEW OR ATTEND MEETINGS AS IT IS A RIGHT. 
          THE CITY, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IS STILL IN DEFAULT OF OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE MEETINGS FOR CITIZENS WHO DO NOT HAVE CABLE AND INTERNET, WHICH DOES NOT PERMIT THOSE SAME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND OR VIEW MEETINGS. 
          NOT EVERYONE HAS CABLE TV OR AN INTERNET SUBSCRIPTION, AND THOSE PERSONS HAVE INHERENT RIGHTS AS WELL AS TO ACCESS THEIR COUNCIL AND COMMITTEE MEETINGS. 
          TO RETURN TO REGULAR STANDING COMMITTEE MEETINGS ONLY SERVES TO RETURN TO MULTIPLE MEETINGS SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE MONTH, MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR CITIZENS TO FOLLOW. 
          NOT TO MENTION IT REDUCES THE INPUT OF THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS INTO WHAT ITEMS COME BEFORE COUNCIL, ADDING MORE UNNECESSARY FILTERING AND SCREENING OF AGENDA ITEMS MOVING FORWARD. THIS FLIES IN THE FACE OF TRANSPARENCY AND GREATER OPENNESS THAT THE CITY PROFESSES TO DEMONSTRATE, STAFF TELL US THAT THE BURDEN PLACED UPON THE CLERK HAS BEEN CUMBERSOME FOR HER AND WISH TO LESSEN THE WORKLOAD. 
          WHILE I AGREE WITH THAT, IT'S MANAGEMENT'S DUTY TO PROVIDE NECESSARY RESOURCES FOR STAFF TO FULFILL THEIR ASSIGNED DUTIES. 
          SO IF IT'S MORE ADMINISTRATIVE OR CLERICAL HELP THAT'S NEEDED TO ASSIGN TO THE CLERK, THEN THAT'S THE ROUTE WE SHOULD THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN. 
          WHY IS IT THAT DEPARTMENT STAFF CANNOT, ON A ROTATION BASIS, SHARE THE DUTIES OF TAKING MINUTES FOR THE COMMITTEES OF THE WHOLE MEETINGS? WHY IS IT THAT. WE HAVE WORK, WHY IS IT THAT WE HAVE WORK IS BEING DESIGNED FOR STAFF PREFERENCES RATHER THAN WHAT WE IN THE PRIVATE WORLD HAVE NO SUCH LUXURY? I HATE WORKING THREE OUT OF FOUR WEEKENDS EVERY MONTH, INCLUDING SUNDAYS, BUT THAT'S THE NATURE OF MY WORK. WORK AND CONDITIONS OF WORK SHOULD BE DESIGNED AROUND WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITIZENS WHEN IT COMES TO CITY STAFF, SINCE THAT'S THE REASON ALL OF US ARE HERE TO SERVE THE TAXPAYERS AND THE CITIZENS OF ELLIOT LAKE. 
          THE PROBLEM MY VIEW IS THE CLERK NEEDS MORE HELP AND THAT IS WHAT I WILL SUPPORT. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN? THANK YOUR WORSHIP. 
          I GUESS FIRST TO MR. GAGNON, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE REPORT FORWARD TONIGHT. 
          AND JUST I GUESS MAYBE TO A COUPLE OF COUNCILLOR CYR'S POINTS, I THINK THE REAL ISSUE SHOULD BE ABOUT EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF MEETINGS. 
          I'VE MISSED TWO MEETINGS THIS MONTH AND I HONESTLY DON'T FEEL LIKE I'VE MISSED ANYTHING, 
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TO BE QUITE HONEST. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I MISSED ONE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING AND HONESTLY, I THINK WE COULD HAVE HAD TWO MEETINGS IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER INSTEAD OF FOUR. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GETTING ANY OF THE WORK DONE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. 
          WE HAVE A COUPLE OF VERY LARGE FILES THAT WE TALK ABOUT REGULARLY. 
          WE TALK ABOUT BYLAW, WE TALK ABOUT ENFORCEMENT. 
          YET WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO THOSE MATTERS AT A DETAILED LEVEL. 
          THAT COUNCIL SHOULD BE. 
          THAT WE HAVE IN THE PAST AT THE LEVEL AT COMMITTEE. 
          PERHAPS IT IS THIS ROOM, PERHAPS IT IS THE FORMAT. 
          I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT COVID HAS IMPACTED IT GREATLY. 
          WHETHER WE WERE RUNNING WITH OR WITHOUT, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE HAD THE SAME OUTCOME. 
          I WENT INTO IT WITH A VERY OPEN MIND. 
          I SUPPORTED TO HAVE IT. 
          PEOPLE KNOW MY TRUE FEELINGS ON IT. 
          AND TONIGHT I'M GOING TO SUPPORT GOING BACK TO OUR PREVIOUS STRUCTURE. 
          AND TO YOUR POINT, YOUR WORSHIP, REGARDING MEMBERSHIP ON THE COMMITTEE, I THINK TONIGHT REALLY WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IS STRUCTURE, NOT MEMBERSHIP. 
          AND I THINK THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED AT A LATER TIME. 
          AND THAT'S ALL I'M PREPARED TO DISCUSS TONIGHT, IS THE STRUCTURE, NOT THE MEMBERSHIP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILLOR PEARCE? AS USUAL, COUNCILLOR MANN JUST STOLE EVERYTHING I WANTED TO SAY. 
          HE'S FASTER ON THE DRAW THAT I AM. 
          BUT LET ME JUST SAY THAT I AGREE 100 PERCENT. 
          I THINK-- AND WE'VE ALL BOUGHT UP THE SAME AREA [INAUDIBLE]. 
          I'M SORRY. YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED IT AND IT NEEDS TO BE TOUCHED. 
          LORD, WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO ON THAT. 
          WE'VE ALSO GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE'VE GOT AN AWFUL LOT OF WORK TO DO ON THE THINGS LIKE THE HUB COMMITTEE AND THE ARTS COMMITTEE AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH. 
          AND I THINK WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO DO THAT. 
          TO COUNCILLOR CYR'S POINT ABOUT OPENNESS AND TRANSPARENCY. 
          I AGREE THAT IT'S DIFFICULT FOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE OR THE COMMUNITY TO ATTEND COMMITTEE MEETINGS, BUT THEY WILL GET THE INFORMATION THAT IS DISCUSSED. 
          WHAT A COMMITTEE, A WORKING COMMITTEE ALLOWS COUNCIL TO DO IS TO DELVE DOWN INTO THE PROBLEM AND COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS THAT THEY CAN THEN BRING TO COUNCIL. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. 
          THE COMMITTEE, THE WHOLE DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THAT. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND FIVE, SIX HOURS EVERY MONDAY NIGHT GOING THROUGH THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS. 
          AS FAR AS MEMBERSHIP, YES, I AGREE, I THINK, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION ON THAT AND I THINK MAYBE TONIGHT'S NOT THE NIGHT FOR THAT, BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILLOR TURNER. THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP. 
          I HAVE TO SAY, I'M IN FAVOR OF GOING BACK TO THE STANDING COMMITTEES AND MY REASON GOES BACK TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEES. 
          THEY NOW HAVE A PARENT COMMITTEE THAT THEY CAN DEAL WITH EASIER AND THEY MAY HAVE TO WAIT A COUPLE OF WEEKS OR A WEEK TO THE NEXT MEETING OF THAT COMMITTEE. 
          BUT AT LEAST THEY KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S AN ACCEPTANCE BY THE STANDING COMMITTEE OF WHATEVER PROJECT THEY'RE WORKING ON, A WILLINGNESS TO PUSH IT FORWARD TO COUNCIL OR GO BACK AND GET MORE INFO. 
          I'VE SEEN COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETINGS CANCELED ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING FOR THE AGENDA. 
          AND YET A MULTITUDE OF PROJECTS EXISTED LOOKING FOR ATTENTION FROM STANDING COMMITTEES OR IN THIS CASE, COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE. 
          AND THEY WERE NEVER GETTING THERE. 
          THAT INCLUDES, AS COUNCIL MEMBER PEARCE WAS SAYING, PLANNING, ACCESSIBILITY. 
          THERE WAS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND I THINK IT'S LED TO A FRUSTRATION, AGAIN, DOWN AT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE LEVEL. 
          I THINK STANDING COMMITTEES GET US CLOSER TO WHAT'S GOING ON, ALLOW US TO BRING ABOUT RESOLUTION FAIRLY QUICKLY. 
          AND THEN MOVING ON THE COUNCIL FOR THE REST OF COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION ON. 
          SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THE STANDING COMMITTEE. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILLOR MANN. 
          THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP AND JUST ANOTHER SHAMELESS PLUG UNDER 13 TONIGHT, I AM GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR SUPPORT OF COUNCIL TO BEGIN THE BUDGET PROCESS NEXT WEEK. 
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SO LET'S NOT FORGET THAT WE DO HAVE A BUSY COUPLE OF WEEKS AHEAD. 
          I DON'T WANT TO DELAY THIS. 
          WE'RE PREPARED AND THE TREASURY IS PREPARED TO BEGIN THIS NEXT WEEK. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO GET THAT STARTED AS WELL. 
          SO IF ANYONE'S CONCERNED ABOUT LACK OF MEETINGS, I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE THAT BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE YEAR. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. 
          THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT MY FELLOW MEMBERS DID. 
          STANDING COMMITTEES AREN'T NORMALLY TELEVISED, SO THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE COULDN'T HOLD THEM [INAUDIBLE] WHERE WE CAN LET THE PUBLIC IN IN A SAFER WAY TO SPREAD OUT WHILE WE WOULD NEED A MICROPHONE SO THAT THEY CAN HEAR US. 
          AND THAT IS THE LEVEL OF WHICH THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE INVOLVED AND ENGAGED IS AT THE STANDING COMMITTEE LEVEL THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. 
          SO THERE'S NO REASON UNLESS THE STAFF CAN COME UP WITH THE REASON, I CAN ASK THE STAFF IF THERE'S ANY REASONS WHY WE COULDN'T DO THAT. 
          AND AS IN THE PAST, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S PRESSING THAT A STAFF MEMBER FEELS NEEDS ATTENTION, WE'VE ALWAYS BROUGHT THINGS DIRECTLY TO COUNCIL. 
          IF EVERYONE AT THE MEETING IS IN AGREEMENT THAT THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. 
          SO THAT AVENUE IS STILL THERE. 
          IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN, AND IT ALWAYS WILL BE THAT WE'VE STILL, EVEN WITH THE COMMITTEE, THE [INAUDIBLE] THINGS TO COUNCIL BECAUSE IT WAS TIME SENSITIVE AND STAFF CAN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. 
          COUNCILLOR FINAMORE JUST SAID WHAT I WAS EVERYTHING ELSE WAS ALREADY SAID, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ADD. SO I DON'T--. 
          COUNCILLOR CYR. THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP. 
          I'M QUITE CERTAIN STANDING COMMITTEES WERE TELEVISED. 
          IT'S THE ADVISORY COMMITTEES THAT WEREN'T. 
          WE ALWAYS WEBCAST THE STANDING COMMITTEES. 
          I'M QUITE CERTAIN. I'LL LOOK AT THAT. 
          COUNCILLOR PATRIE. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MR. COUNCILLOR CYR, THEY NEVER WERE, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. 
          THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH US TAPING THEM AND WEBCASTING THEM SO THAT THEY CAN BE DONE. 
          IT'S NOT HARD FOR US TO DO. 
          ALL WE'VE GOT TO DO IS SET UP THE IPAD, SAME AS WHAT WE DO FOR A CLOSED SESSION. 
          BUT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT HAPPENING FOR COMMITTEE SO THAT PEOPLE THAT CAN'T ATTEND DO GET TO SEE WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED. 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO COME. 
          THERE ALWAYS WAS A GOOD CONTINGENCY OF PUBLIC AT THE STANDING COMMITTEE MEETINGS. 
          YEAH, I THINK THE WHOLE COVID SITUATION IS REALLY, REALLY PUT A LOT OF STRESS ON INDIVIDUALS AT ALL LEVELS BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEES NEEDING THAT MOTHER COMMITTEE TO GET TO. 
          AND I CAN REMEMBER A TIME WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE THE RECREATION CULTURE STANDING COMMITTEE IN THIS ROOM AND YOU'D HAVE, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE SITTING HERE WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE DELIBERATION OF COUNCIL WAS. 
          IF, YOU KNOW, IS IT GOING BACK TO THEM FOR MORE INFORMATION? IS IT COMING TO COUNCIL? IS SOMETHING BEING APPROVED? SEEING AN EMPTY CHAMBER NIGHT AFTER NIGHT AFTER NIGHT AND EASTLINK NOT WORKING. 
          MOST THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO THINK WE'RE NOT WORKING. 
          WE'RE NOT PRESSING FORWARD. NOBODY'S GETTING THAT INFORMATION THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          A SEPARATE NOTE. 
          THIS IS OUT OF THE PROCEDURAL BYLAW. 
          SO WE STILL HAVE IN THERE THE SCHEDULING OF COMMITTEE MEETINGS WITH THE FINANCE AND AN ADMIN THIRD MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH, REC AND CULTURE, FIRST MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH [INAUDIBLE] SECOND MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH, BYLAW AND PLANNING, FIRST MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH, PUBLIC SERVICES THIRD MONDAY OF EACH MONTH. 
          SO THAT'S STILL IN OUR PROCEDURAL BYLAW. 
          THANK YOU, [INAUDIBLE]. 
          COUNCILLOR PATRIE. ONE FINAL NOTE. 
          IF WE DID HAVE THE STANDING COMMITTEES HAPPENING, WE MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THE MASS EXODUS FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] COMMITTEE THAT WE JUST DID TONIGHT. 
          THERE HAS BEEN TIMES IN THE PAST WITH STANDING COMMITTEES, WHERE THERE WERE ISSUES THAT HAD TO BE DEALT WITH BETWEEN COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL AND COMMITTEE AND STAFF, WHICH COULD BE DEALT WITH AT THE STANDING COMMITTEE. 
          AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS COULD BE HAD, FRANKLY, IN THOSE MEETINGS. 
          SO SOME PEOPLE HAD BEEN TALKED OFF OF CLIFFS PRIOR AND THINGS RECTIFIED THAT NEEDED TO BE RECTIFIED. SO IT'S VERY BENEFICIAL TO HAVE THAT STANDING COMMITTEE MEETING IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN A COUNCIL MEETING. 
          IT'S WHERE STAFF AND PUBLIC GET TO DO A LOT MORE INPUT TO A MEETING THAN WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN AT A COUNCIL MEETING. 
          COUNCIL MEETING IS SUPPOSED TO BE STRICTLY COUNCIL'S POLITICAL DECISION TO DO SOMETHING WHERE WHEN IT'S AT THE STANDING COMMITTEE, IT IS USUALLY THE STAFF. 
          AND THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TRYING TO GET STUFF DONE TO MOVE IT FORWARD TO COUNCIL. 
          COUNCILLOR MANN. 
          AND YOUR WORSHIP, I HAVE EVERY CONFIDENCE IN EVERY RESIDENT IN THIS MUNICIPALITY COMING FORWARD OVER A CONTENTIOUS ISSUE. 
          I HAD MULTIPLE EMAILS TODAY ABOUT THE RESIGNATIONS FOR [INAUDIBLE]. 
          PEOPLE THAT WOULD CALL ME RARELY, BUT REACHED OUT TO ME BECAUSE IT WAS CONCERNING TO THEM. 
          THEY KNOW HOW TO GET A HOLD OF US. 
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IF THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON, AS WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, CHAMBERS GET FILLED WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE FILLED AND WE DEAL WITH IT AT THAT TIME. 
          THE RESIDENTS WILL COME FORWARD WHEN THEY NEED TO. 
          I HAVE NO CONCERN ABOUT THAT, IRRESPECTIVE OF STRUCTURE, BUT I THINK IT'S MORE ACCESSIBLE TO GO THROUGH THE STANDING COMMITTEE STRUCTURE. 
          THANK YOU. OK, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER COMMENTS, CALL FOR A VOTE. 
          SHALL WE ROLL CALL? COUNCILLOR TURNER. 
          IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. 
          IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. 
          IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. 
          IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR MAN. 
          IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR CYR. 
          OPPOSED. UH, I'M IN FAVOR. 
          THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU. 
          SIX POINT EIGHT, MEMO FROM THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER. 
          NEW DEPARTMENT ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. 
          THERE IS NO RECOMMENDED RESOLUTIONS. 
          IS THIS JUST FOR INFORMATION? MR. GAGNON? YOU'RE RIGHT YOUR WORSHIP. THIS IS JUST FOR INFORMATION. 
          THE COUNCIL IS WELL AWARE OF THIS SMALL REORGANIZATION TO THE ORG CHART, BUT THE PUBLIC MAY NOT BE. SO THAT WAS THE POINT, WAS JUST TO INTRODUCE TO THE PUBLIC AND THE MEDIA AND THOSE WATCHING AT HOME THAT WE'VE MADE A BIT OF A CHANGE. 
          THE BYLAW AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT WILL NOW REPORT TO THE CLERK IN A NEW TITLE OF DIRECTOR OF CLERKS AND PLANNING SERVICES, SIMILAR TO AN ORG CHART THAT WAS IN PLACE SEVERAL YEARS AGO. 
          PROVIDES THE CLEAREST BIT OF MORE PROCESS OR FOCUS ON BUILDING AND BY LAW AND PLANNING MATTERS. 
          WE HAVE SEEN THE LOW VACANCY RATE AND SOME OF THE GROWTH IS CAUSING SOME GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE, WHICH IS A LOT MORE PLANNING APPLICATIONS, REQUESTS FOR LAND. 
          WE NEED TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE STREAMLINED WHEN IT COMES TO PLANNING AND A LITTLE MORE SOPHISTICATED. AND MS. BRAY IS, YOU KNOW, ACUTELY EXPERIENCED AND READY TO TAKE ON THAT CHALLENGE. 
          I THINK, MR. CHIEF STEWART, FOR FOR HANDLING THAT FOR FOR SOME YEARS NOW. 
          AND HE'S MOVED THAT OVER TO THE CLERK. 
          HE'LL BE FOCUSING ON THE FIRE SERVICE AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. 
          THE ORG CHART IS THERE INDICATING A BIT OF THE CHANGES. 
          WE ALSO HAVE A SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER ABOUT TO BE HIRED IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET SIMILAR TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE CORPORATE STRUCTURE FOCUS TO GET READY FOR THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE IMMINENT RIGHT NOW AND WHAT'S COMING IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND AGAIN, THE CLERK BEING ABLE TO MANAGE THE PROCESS OF UPDATING A LOT OF BYLAWS AND GETTING A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE WHEN IT COMES TO BYLAW ENFORCEMENT AND MORE EFFICIENT. 
          MAKES SOME SENSE. SO COUNCIL APPROVED THAT IN THE PAST AND IN CLOSED SESSION, AND NOW WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE AHEAD AND OPEN AND CONGRATULATE MS. BRAY ON HER NEW ROLE. 
          STARTED LAST WEEK. CONGRATULATIONS, MS. BRAY. I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO RECEIVE SO THAT COUNCIL CAN ASK QUESTIONS, MAKE COMMENTS AS MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. 
          QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? OTHER THAN CONGRATULATIONS, MS. BRAY, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER ON BOARD. 
          THERE'S I KNOW THERE'S A QUITE THE WISH LIST THERE FOR I'M ALREADY READY TO ROLL. 
          SO HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BACKGROUND OF THE MUNICIPALITY AND WHERE WE'RE HEADING. IS THERE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? THEN I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE THEN. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED. 
          IT'S RECEIVED. THANK YOU, MR. GAGNON. SEVEN PRESENTATION, A COMMITTEE REPORT, SEVEN POINT ONE REFERRAL FROM COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE REPORT FROM THE NUCLEAR MINING MUSEUM [INAUDIBLE] RE ELLIOT LAKE GUIDED TOUR PROJECT AND COUNCILLOR CYR YOU WERE THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, SO I'LL HAND 
          [7. PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS]
IT OVER TO YOU TO READ THE RESOLUTION AND MOVE IN [INAUDIBLE]. 
          THANK YOU, WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. 
          THE ONLY THING I HAVE IS THE RESOLUTION FROM--. 
          I DON'T HAVE A RESOLUTION HERE, THOUGH. 
          [INAUDIBLE] WOULD COUNCIL NOT HAVE TO MOVE TO SUPPORT? AND NORMALLY WHEN IT COMES FROM THE COMMITTEE THE WHOLE, IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE, THE WHOLE ENDORSES THAT THE ELLIOT LAKE PROJECT REPORT, AN INTERIM CURATOR NUCLEAR MINING MUSEUM BE RECEIVED IN THE CITY PROJECT REPORT BEFORE THE NOVEMBER TWENTY THIRD COUNCIL MEETING FOR APPROVAL AND I SO MOVE. 
          THAT WAS FOR YOU COUNCILLOR CYR. 
          IS THERE SECONDER FOR THAT? SORRY. 
          BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT PIECE. SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. 
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DO YOU HAVE THE PAGE WITH THE INFORMATION SO YOU CAN GIVE US A PRELUDE AND THEN OPEN IT UP FOR MS. HENNESSY AND MS. [INAUDIBLE]? WELL, THE BACKGROUND. 
          YES, I DO. 
          FROM--. ADMIST THE CONFUSION AND CONSTRAINTS OF COVID-19 AN IDEA WAS FORMED THAT AN APP WOULD BE CREATED TO PROMOTE ELLIOT LAKE'S RICH CULTURAL HERITAGE IN THE FORM OF A HISTORICAL GUIDED WALKING TOUR THROUGH A DOWNTOWN AREA. 
          THESE TOURS WOULD SUBSTITUTE ELLIOTT LAKE'S MUSEUM AND HERITAGE SITES, WHICH WERE EXPERIENCING LIMITED ACCESS AND OUTREACH DUE TO PANDEMIC RESTRICTIONS, AS WELL AS TO COMBAT THE [INAUDIBLE] OF REMAINING INDOORS AND PHYSICAL DISTANCING. 
          GUIDING PARTICIPANTS THROUGH A VARIETY OF TOUR SPOTS FROM MONUMENTS, HISTORICAL BUILDINGS AND PUBLIC ART, THIS APP WILL OFFER HISTORICAL IMAGES, BACKGROUND AND PERSONAL TESTIMONIALS TO BE USED AT LEISURE. 
          AN AGREEMENT WAS REACHED IN JUNE WITH THE APP BUILDING COMPANY [INAUDIBLE] TO DEVELOP AND DESIGN THIS APP FOR THE CITY. 
          AFTER INITIAL SETBACKS, THIS PROJECT WAS RESUMED BY THE STAFF OF NUCLEAR AND MINING MUSEUM IN LATE AUGUST WITH SUPPORT FROM THE MUSEUM BOARD. 
          AND IS IN ITS FINAL STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT, AVAILABLE IN BOTH THE APPLE APP STORE AND GOOGLE PLAY STORE. 
          THIS APP WILL BE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL CITIZENS AND TOURISTS WITH A MOBILE DEVICE FREE OF COST. THE PURPOSE OF THIS APP IS TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC WITH AN ENJOYABLE, IMMERSIVE EXPERIENCE THROUGH EDUCATION OF ELLIOT LAKE'S HISTORY AND THE PEOPLE WHO MADE IT SO VIBRANT AND PROVIDE AN INNOVATIVE TOOL FOR VISITORS TO LEARN ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND I ASK THE STAFF MEMBER TO GIVE US SOME MORE DETAILS. 
          OK, THANK YOU. I'M HOPING THAT MR. [INAUDIBLE] WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE US THE GUIDED TOUR ON THE SCREEN LIKE YOU DID FOR THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. OK, PERFECT. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          I AM AMELIA TOMATOE, THE INTERIM MUSEUM CURATOR FOR THE ELLIOT LAKE NUCLEAR AND MINING MUSEUM. TODAY, I WILL BE GIVING THE PRESENTATION ON THE APP WE'VE BEEN DEVELOPING WITHIN THE CULTURE AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY. 
          IT IS THE SAME REPORT AND PRESENTATION AS LAST WEEK. 
          SO HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT TOO REITERATIVE. 
          BUT BEAR WITH ME. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO AS COUNCILLOR CYR INTRODUCED FOR ME, THE PURPOSE OF THIS APP IS TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC WITH AN ENJOYABLE AND IMMERSIVE EXPERIENCE THAT CELEBRATES ELLIOT LAKE'S PAST, PROMOTES ITS ENTERPRISES AT THE PRESENT, AND ENCOURAGES NEW VISITORS AND RESIDENTS OF THE FUTURE. SO THE IDEA FOR THE APP WAS-- SORRY, WAS FORMED TO CREATE WAS FORMED TO PROMOTE ELLIOT LAKE'S RICH CULTURAL HISTORY, DESPITE THE MUSEUM AND ITS HERITAGE SITES BEING CLOSED DUE TO COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS. 
          SO THIS APP WOULD GET PEOPLE OUT OF THE HOUSE AND INTERACTING IN A WAY THAT COULD COMPLY WITH ALL THE RESTRICTIONS OF SOCIAL DISTANCING. 
          THIS APP WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO ALL CITIZENS AND TOURISTS WITH WITH A SMART DEVICE DOWNLOADABLE FROM BOTH THE APPLE APP STORE AND THE GOOGLE PLAY STORE FREE OF COST. 
          OUR APP WILL GUIDE USERS THROUGH A VARIETY OF TOURIST SPOTS FROM MONUMENTS, HISTORICAL BUILDINGS AND PUBLIC ART, OFFERING BOTH HISTORICAL IMAGES, BACKGROUND AND PERSONAL TESTIMONIALS, WHICH CAN BE PERUSED AT LEISURE FOR ALL USERS. 
          THIS PROJECT WAS INITIATED IN JUNE WITH AN AGREEMENT WITH THE APP BUILDING COMPANY BUILD FIRE, AND AFTER SEVERAL SETBACKS, IT WAS RESUMED IN LATE AUGUST WITH A NEW TEAM AND VISION . THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS, THE MUSEUM BOARD WAS SUPPORTIVE AND IN PARTICULAR, JACKIE GRUMET, OUR BOARD CHAIR, AND LINDA FINN WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN THE RESEARCHING PROCESS OF THIS APP AND ALSO PROVIDING THEIR OWN INSIGHT THROUGH THEIR YEARS OF BEING PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. SO BUILDFIRE IS THE APP DEVELOPING COMPANY THAT WE ARE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH. 
          THEY WERE CHOSEN FOR THEIR FAST DEVELOPMENTAL TIME, LOW DEVELOPMENTAL COSTS, THEIR EASE OF USE FOR BOTH THE CREATOR AND THE USER, THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE PRODUCT AND THEIR CONTINUED SERVICING AFTER THE INITIAL SET UP AND RELEASE. 
          SO THESE ARE PROOFS THAT I CAN SHARE WITH YOU OF WHAT THE APP WILL LOOK LIKE SEEN ON BOTH APPLE PRODUCTS AND ANDROID PRODUCTS. 
          SO THE ENTIRE DESIGN IS BASED OFF THE CITY'S CURRENT PLATFORM TO MAKE THIS BOTH RECOGNIZABLE AND FAMILIAR TO ANY USERS. 
          SOME OF THE IMAGES YOU CAN SEE DISPLAYED HERE ARE STOCK IMAGES, WHICH WE WILL OBVIOUSLY 
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BE SUBSTITUTING WITH IMAGES OF OUR OWN COMMUNITY. 
          WE'VE EVEN BEEN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A FEW LOCAL PHOTOGRAPHERS, ESPECIALLY RICHARD BOOSE WITH NORTHERN EXPOSURE PHOTOGRAPHY. 
          HE'S PROVIDED US ACCESS TO HIS DRIVE OF PHOTOS AND GIVEN US PERMISSION TO USE THEM FOR THE APP, WHICH WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. 
          SO UPON OPENING THE APP, USERS WILL BE MET WITH THE LOADING SCREEN, WHICH WILL INCLUDE SEVERAL OPENING SLIDES WELCOMING THEM TO ELLIOT LAKE AND INTRODUCING THEM TO THE COMMUNITY. USERS WILL ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE AN ACCOUNT WHICH IS COMPLETELY OPTIONAL, BUT WILL ALLOW THEM TO INTERACT ON THE APP IN A FORM OF POSTING COMMENTS OR PHOTOS OF THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THE TOUR'S. 
          SO FROM THERE, USERS WILL ENTER THE HOME SCREEN WHERE THERE WILL BE FOUR DIFFERENT POINTS OF ENTRY, WHICH WILL BE GUIDED TOUR, SELF GUIDED TOURS, COMMUNITY EVENTS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES. 
          IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF THE IMAGE ON THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE A DROP DOWN MENU, WHICH WILL ALSO INCLUDE AN ABOUT PAGE, AS WELL AS ANY USER ACCOUNT INFORMATION. 
          SO THE GUIDED TOUR OPTION WILL LEAD USERS ALONG A PREDETERMINED ROUTE THROUGH THE CITY. 
          THIS OPTION WILL UTILIZE GEO FENCE PUSH NOTIFICATIONS SO THAT WHEN YOU ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY OF LOCATION YOU ARE SEEKING, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY A MARGIN OF 10 FEET OR SO, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO READ, LISTEN AND VIEW THE ACCOMPANYING BACKGROUND INFORMATION AND IMAGES EXPLAINING THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE SITE, AND THEN YOU WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT LOCATION. SO THE FIRST GUIDED TOUR THAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THE RELEASE OF THE APP IS IN HISTORICAL DOWNTOWN WALKING TOUR. 
          SO IT WILL FEATURE SEVERAL IMPORTANT LOCATIONS IN ELLIOTT LAKE'S HISTORY, LIKE THE LAKE THEATER, [INAUDIBLE] SPORTING GOODS, BLAKEY'S GROCERY STORE AND THE [INAUDIBLE], AMONG OTHER FEATURES OF COURSE. 
          THE SELF GUIDED TOUR OPTION WILL FEATURE THE SAME POINTS OF INTEREST AS THE FIRST, ALONG WITH ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS WHICH DO NOT FIT THE THEME OF THE GUIDED TOUR. 
          IN THIS FEATURE, INSTEAD OF STICKING TO THE PROGRAMED ROUTE, USERS WILL BE ABLE TO CHOOSE THEIR OWN DESTINATIONS FROM A MAP VIEW BASED ON THEIR OWN INTERESTS. 
          AS STATED EARLIER, THE LOCATIONS PINPOINTED ON THE MAP WILL BE A COLLECTION OF BUILDINGS, MONUMENTS AND ART. 
          BOTH OF THESE TWO ARE OPTION SELF GUIDED AND NOT WILL HAVE A SOCIAL WALL FEATURE WHICH CAN ALLOW USERS TO UPLOAD IMAGES OF THEMSELVES VISITING OR INTERACTING WITH DIFFERENT LOCATIONS IF THEY CHOOSE SO OF COURSE, AND IF THEY HAVE MADE AN ACCOUNT AS WELL SO THAT WE CAN BETTER CONTROL THE CONTENT BEING PUT ONLINE. 
          SO THE FINAL CATEGORIES, COMMUNITY EVENTS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES ARE PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY . AND THEY ARE THERE TO INFORM CITIZENS AND VISITORS OF THE VARIOUS HAPPENINGS AROUND ELLIOT LAKE, AS WELL AS TO BROWSE THROUGH OUR LOCAL SHOPS AND RESTAURANTS. 
          SO ALL OF THESE ENTRY POINTS WILL BE FREQUENTLY UPDATED AND MONITORED BY THE NUCLEAR AND MINING STAFF WHO WILL HAVE FULL EDITING POWER AFTER THE INITIAL SETUP, AND IT WILL ALLOW US TO ADD NEW INFORMATION AND CHANGE THE THEME OF THE FEATURED TOUR AS NEW IDEAS ARE DEVELOPED. 
          SO LOOKING AT THE FINANCIALS, THE INITIAL FEE FOR SET WITH BUILDFIRE WAS THE STANDARD SETUP FEE OF TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED USD AS WELL AS SERVICES CHARGE OF FOURTEEN HUNDRED AND EIGHTY EIGHT DOLLARS USD. 
          THIS ALSO INCLUDES CONTINUE TECH SUPPORT AS WELL AS APPLICATION DEVELOPMENT, DESIGN AND TRAINING. SO IN CANADIAN DOLLARS, THIS CAME TO FIVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SIX DOLLARS AND THIRTY SEVEN CENTS. 
          THE ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION FEE TO KEEP OUR APP ON THE MARKET WILL BE THE SERVICE CHARGE OF FOURTEEN HUNDRED NINETY EIGHT DOLLARS USD EACH YEAR, AND DEPENDING ON CONVERSION, THIS WILL BE ABOUT TWO THOUSAND SIXTY SIX DOLLARS, GIVE OR TAKE. 
          SO AFTER THE APP IS RELEASED, WE WILL BE ABLE TO CLOSELY MONITOR THE APP ANALYTICS TO TEST ITS POPULARITY, FUNCTIONALITY AND CONTINUED USE OF THE APP BY THE USERS IN ORDER TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW TO PROCEED WITH OUR SUBSCRIPTION. 
          SO THIS AMOUNT WILL BE FIGURED INTO THE NUCLEAR MINING ANNUAL BUDGET, BUT IT CAN ALSO BE OFFSET BY SELLING THE ADVERTISEMENT SPACE AVAILABLE IN THE LOCAL BUSINESSES PORTION OF THE APP. SO IT IS STILL MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE OFFER THIS ADVERTISING SPACE FREE TO LOCAL BUSINESSES FOR THE FIRST YEAR TO BE REEVALUATED IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE AFTER WE CAN BETTER CONSIDER THE APP ANALYTICS. 
          SO AS HOPEFULLY YOU'VE SEEN IN THIS PRESENTATION, THIS APP PROVIDES A LOT OF BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY, MANY IN DIRECT CORRELATION TO OUR CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN IN THIS REGARD. 
          THE APP ALLOWS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF STRONG PARTNERSHIPS IN SUPPORT OF THE LOCAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY. IT SUPPORTS THE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMUNITY BY CULTIVATING IN CITIZENS AN APPRECIATION FOR OUR CULTURE AND HISTORY IN AN ACCESSIBLE MANNER. 
          AND IT PROMOTES HEALTH AND COMMUNITY WELLNESS BY PROVIDING AN ACTIVITY THAT ENCOURAGES RECREATION IN ALL AGE GROUPS. 
          SO WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO SHARE THIS APP WITH EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE ARE STILL IN THE FINAL STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE UPDATES FOR YOU GUYS THIS WEEK. 
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AND PENDING INFORMATION LIKE THE LOCAL BUSINESS ADS, WE WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND GET THIS ON THE MARKET AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN FOR LISTENING. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE THEM NOW. 
          OK, THANK YOU MS. [INAUDIBLE], WAS EXCELLENT ONCE AGAIN. 
          AS I SAID AT THE COMMITTEE, THE WHOLE IS AMAZING NOT JUST FOR TOURISM, BUT IT'S A MARKETING INITIATIVE HIGHLIGHTING OUR COMMUNITY, HIGHLIGHTING THE BUSINESSES. 
          ABSOLUTELY GREAT TO SEE THIS COMING FORWARD. 
          I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU WHEN THE PROPOSED LAUNCH DATE IS, BUT NOT QUITE THERE YET. 
          SO I'M HOPING YOU'LL GIVE US AN UPDATE RIGHT BEFORE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, OUR THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF WATCHERS, THEY'RE WATCHING COUNCIL AND WATCHING US ON FACEBOOK WILL BE ABLE TO KNOW THE HARD DATA AND SEND IT TO ALL THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILIES AROUND THE COUNTRY. 
          SO THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS AMAZING. 
          AND WE DO HAVE QUESTIONS. 
          COMMENTS. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. 
          THANK YOU, WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MS. [INAUDIBLE], THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          IT WAS VERY CLEAR AND CONCISE AND I THINK I EVEN UNDERSTAND IT, SO THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. 
          KIND OF EXPLAINED IT LIKE YOU WOULD BE TALKING TO YOUR GRANDMOTHER AND I GOT THAT. 
          SO I'VE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL ASK LATER. 
          BUT I REALLY SEE THE BENEFIT OF THIS. 
          AND I REALIZED THAT YOU TOOK THIS APP ON WHEN IT WAS PARTIALLY DEVELOPED, SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU PLAYED CATCH UP AND GOT AHEAD OF IT AND YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH IT AND WORK WELL TOGETHER WITH THE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMITTEE IN ORDER TO GET THIS GOING. 
          I THINK THAT THE MORE WE TRY TO CAPTURE OUR HISTORY, THE BETTER WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY. 
          AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A GREAT STEP FORWARD TO DOING THAT IN THIS DAY AND AGE. 
          AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE LAUNCH DATE. 
          THEN YOU CAN SHOW ME HOW TO USE IT. 
          COUNCILLOR TURNER. THANKS YOUR WORSHIP. 
          MS. [INAUDIBLE], WELL DONE. AND ONE THING I'M WONDERING ABOUT FOR THE APP ITSELF, UH, IF I'M LOOKING TO GET ONTO IT, WHAT IS THE PORTAL THAT I'M GOING TO USE, THE CITY WEBSITE? THAT YOU WOULD BE DOWNLOADING THIS APP IN THE APP STORE, DEPENDING ON YOUR DEVICE, THE APPLE APP STORE OR THE GOOGLE PLAY STORE, WHICH WOULD BE THE SAME ON A SMARTPHONE OR A SMART DEVICE LIKE AN IPAD OR A DIFFERENT TABLET. 
          SO WE CAN ADVERTISE THROUGH THE CITY WEBSITE. 
          BUT ULTIMATELY YOU WOULD BE DOWNLOADING IT THROUGH AN APP STORE. 
          YOU KNOW, THE CITY WEBSITE, THE AD WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD IDEA, OTHERWISE IT WOULDN'T KNOW TO GO TO THE APP STORE. 
          YEAH, AND WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE THAT CLEAR THROUGH OUR ADVERTISING BECAUSE WE DO HAVE AN OLDER POPULATION WHO MIGHT NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH THE TECHNOLOGY. 
          SO WE'LL DEFINITELY MAKE IT AS ACCESSIBLE AS POSSIBLE. 
          THEY'RE PRETTY SURE, YES. 
          OK, THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR CYR. 
          THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. [INAUDIBLE], FOR THIS PRESENTATION. 
          THIS IS A GREAT TOOL FOR ELLIOT LAKE AND FOR ANYBODY OUTSIDE OF ELLIOT LAKE THINKING OF FINDING OUT WHAT ELLIOT LAKE IS. 
          I HOPE THIS GETS SHARED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE ON ALL THE FACEBOOK GROUPS AND SOCIAL MEDIA, TWITTER AND ALL THAT JUST TO REALLY PROMOTE OUR CITY. 
          THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS I KNOW YOU SAID THIS APP IS ON THE APP STORE AND GOOGLE STORE. 
          WILL THIS APP BE ABLE TO BE DOWNLOADED FOR PEOPLE AT HOME THAT DON'T HAVE MOBILES LIKE THIS FOR WHO HAVE COMPUTERS AND LAPTOPS, OR IS IT A STRICTLY MOBILE APP? SO THAT'S THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE. 
          IT'S BASED PRIMARILY ON MOBILE APP. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE A REACH ON JUST LIKE A WEB BROWSER, BUT IT IS IN TALKS WITH BUILDFIRE. WE DID DISCUSS HAVING IT AS A DOWNLOADABLE FEATURE. 
          SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE DATA, FOR INSTANCE, YOU CAN ALWAYS DOWNLOAD IT ON YOUR TABLET OR IPHONE AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION READY FOR YOU AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO USE ANY DATA OUTSIDE OF WI-FI AREAS. 
          BUT THAT'S AN-- I CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO WHETHER WE CAN HAVE THE INFORMATION PRESENT, WHETHER EVEN IF IT'S JUST ON OUR OWN WEBSITE, JUST HAVING THE TOUR FEATURES AND THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS PRESENT IN A COLLECTED FORM ON THE WEBSITE SO THAT OTHER VISITORS CAN ACCESS THAT INFORMATION. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COUNCILLOR PATRIE. I MADE A LOT OF COMMENTS AT THE COMMUNITY THE HALL, SO I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE THEM OVER, BUT AGAIN, I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. 
          THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF NEW PEOPLE THAT MOVE INTO THIS COMMUNITY ANNUALLY AND THEY HAVE A TON OF VISITORS. 
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SO THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE OF THE HISTORY OF THE COMMUNITY, SO THIS APP WILL BENEFIT NEWCOMERS TO THE COMMUNITY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO FIND OUT NEW STUFF OR FIND OUT INFORMATION ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS WHEN THEIR VISITORS COME TO TOWN, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE THEM AROUND WITH A MORE EDUCATED TOUR. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU, MS. [INAUDIBLE]. 
          LOOK FORWARD TO THE LAUNCH DATE. 
          WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE TABLE. 
          LOOK FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR. 
          THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SEVEN POINT TWO, REFERRAL FROM COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, A MEMO FROM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TREASURY OCTOBER ON AUDITED STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL POSITION, AGAIN, THIS WILL BE COUNCILLOR CYR AND I BELIEVE THIS ONE WOULD BE FOR COUNCIL TO RECEIVE . COUNCILLOR CYR. SEVEN TWO-- SEVEN POINT TWO. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORSHIP, SORRY, REFERRAL FROM THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. 
          AT THE NOVEMBER 16, 2020 MEETING OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, WE REVIEWED AND REFERRED TO COUNCIL THE UNAUDITED STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL POSITION AS OF OCTOBER 31ST TWENTY TWENTY. AND I SO MOVE. 
          IS THERE A SECONDER? SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER. 
          ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COUNCILLOR CYR?. 
          I WOULD ASK IF MR. SONNENBURG CAN EXPAND ON THE DETAILS. 
          THANK YOU. MS. SONNENBURG. 
          IS THERE A SPECIFIC QUESTION OR DO WOULD YOU JUST LIKE AN OVERVIEW? JUST AN OVERVIEW FOR THOSE WATCHING AT HOME. 
          THANK YOU. THE CURRENT STATEMENT ON OUR STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL POSITION FOR THE CITY IS A SURPLUS OF SIX HUNDRED FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND NINETY SEVEN DOLLARS AT-- AND THAT'S FORECASTED TO YEAR END AS OF OCTOBER THIRTY FIRST TWENTY TWENTY. 
          [INAUDIBLE]. IS ANY QUESTIONS ON LINE BY LINE, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM OR FIND FURTHER INFORMATION FOR YOU. 
          OK, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? LOOKING AROUND. 
          GOOD FINANCIAL POSITION AT THE MOMENT. 
          LOOK FORWARD TO BEGINNING THE 2021 BUDGET AND SEEING WHERE WE CAN PLAY A BIT FOR MOVING US FORWARD IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. NO QUESTIONS. 
          COMMENTS. WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED. 
          THANK YOU. NO OUTSIDE BOARD OR COMMITTEE REPORTING UNFINISHED BUSINESS . NINE POINT ONE, COMMUNITY RECREATION HUB UPDATE STANDING ITEM. 
          MR. GAGNON, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. 
          THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP. WHEN IT COMES TO THE SPORTS HUB, I'M TOLD IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO 
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GET THE GEOTECH DRILL RIG. 
          IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT WILL BE COMING THE FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY TO DO THE GEOTECH DRILLING. 
          WE MAY NEED PUBLIC WORKS TO HELP WITH SOME SNOW REMOVAL DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF WINTER WE HAVE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. 
          BUT THAT'S STILL ONGOING. 
          THEY'RE DOING OUR BEST TO GET THE RIG. 
          IT'S VERY HARD TO TO TRACK DOWN LIKELY DUE TO COVID. 
          THE OTHER UPDATE I HAVE IS RELATED TO THE MEMO THAT I PROVIDED TO COUNCIL AT THE LAST [INAUDIBLE] EXACTLY THE LAST MEETING WITH COUNCIL WAS LOOKING FOR MORE SUCCINCT DATA THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE TO MAKE GOOD INFORMED DECISION ON THE FUTURE OF THE HUB. 
          AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE WOULD NEED APPROXIMATELY FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. SOME OF THAT MUCH OF IT IS DEDICATED TO TAKING A HARDER LOOK AT THE CURLING CLUB BUILDING. OF COURSE, WE DON'T OWN THE CURLING CLUB, BUT THE CONCEPT, DEPENDING ON WHICH VERSION WE'RE LOOKING AT, WOULD ENTAIL US ACQUIRING THE CURLING CLUB BUILDING. IF THE CURLING CLUB, THE CURLING PAD, IT'S INCORPORATED INTO THE HUB. 
          SO WE MAY WANT TO KNOW THE STATE IN SOME DETAIL OF THAT CURLING CLUB BUILDING IN THAT SCENARIO OR IN A SCENARIO WHERE WE JUST SIMPLY CAN'T AFFORD THE CURLING CLUB OR WE HAVE TO POSTPONE THE CLUB, THE CURLING PAD INTO THE HUB. 
          WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE CLUB'S CHANCES OF CONTINUING TO OPERATE IN THAT EXISTING BUILDING. AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE WOULD NEED TO SPEND SOME MONEY TO DO A DETAILED REVIEW OF THAT BUILDING, ESSENTIALLY A BUILDING CONDITION ASSESSMENT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE ARENA AND HAVE HAD IN THE POOL IN THE PAST. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 37000 OF THE 47000 WOULD BE DOING A DEEP DIVE OF THE CURLING CLUB BUILDING. 
          THE STRUCTURAL WAS VERY BRIEFLY LOOKED AT IN TWENTY NINETEEN IN LIGHT OF THAT TERRIBLE WINTER WHERE WE LOST THE CIVIC CENTER. 
          IT'S A WOOD TRUSS BUILDING, SIMILAR IN SCOPE TO THE [INAUDIBLE] IN THE ARENA. 
          SO IT WOULD NEED A DETAILED REVIEW FROM A FIRM THAT'S LISTED THERE, [INAUDIBLE] 
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ENGINEERING, TO DO A HARDER LOOK AT THE WOOD TRUSS. 
          ALSO LOOK AT THE MECHANICAL PLANT SO THAT WE CAN AS A COMMUNITY HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE FOR THE CURLING CLUB. 
          SOMEHOW THE CURLING CLUB GOT LISTED INCLUDED INTO THE HUB. 
          AND WE HAVE NO DETAILED DESIGN OR DETAILED DETAILS ON THE CURLING CLUB BUILDING ITSELF. 
          SO THAT'S A BIT OF A GAP THAT I THINK COUNCIL MAY WISH TO FILL BY HIRING THESE FIRMS, SOME OF THEM [INAUDIBLE] ENGINEERING HAS ALREADY RETAINED AS OUR CONSULTING ENGINEER. 
          SO WE DON'T NEED TO WE DON'T HAVE A PROCUREMENT ISSUE THERE THERE THAT WE JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT WOULD COST APPROXIMATELY TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS TO HAVE THEM DO THE DETAILED REVIEW. NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE WOOD EXPERTS TO LOOK AT THE WOOD TRUSS, ANOTHER SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE MECHANICAL PLANT, PLUMBING AND THE ICE PLANT. 
          AND THAT'S IT FOR THE CURLING CLUB. 
          WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING IS APPROXIMATELY 7500 DOLLARS FOR BDO TO DO A MORE DETAILED REVIEW OR DO A DETAILED REVIEW OF WHAT THE PRO FORMA WHAT THIS HUB WAS GOING TO COST FROM AN OPERATING STANDPOINT SO THAT WE CAN COMPARE THAT TO THE OPERATING COSTS OF THE INEFFICIENT EXISTING OLD PLANTS AND ALSO COMPARE THE COST OF OPERATING THIS NEW FACILITY COMPARED TO THE TRENDS OF CAPITAL MAINTENANCE AND OPERATING COSTS OF THE OLD FACILITIES. 
          WE HAVEN'T DONE A VERY DETAILED REVIEW OF THAT IN THE PAST. 
          IT WAS BRIEFLY LOOKED AT TO SOME DEGREE BY COLLIERS IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN. 
          BUT THE SCOPE HAS CHANGED CONSIDERABLY SINCE THEN. 
          SO BDO IS OUR RETAINED AUDITORS, SO WE WOULD BE SIMPLY ASKING THEM TO DO SOME EXTRA WORK OUTSIDE OF YOUR TYPICAL AUDITING SCOPE. 
          AND THEY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP AND HAVE WORKED ON PRO FORMAS AND OPERATING COSTS FOR FACILITIES WITH IDEA ARCHITECTS [INAUDIBLE]. 
          SO ALL THAT SAID, THIS HAS BEEN RESEARCHED. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IF COUNCIL AGREES TO THE FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND, THEN WE COULD HAVE THIS DATA IN OUR HANDS IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, NOT MONTHS, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT THE HUB'S FUTURE IN JANUARY AT THIS RATE. 
          IF WE DON'T DO THESE THINGS, THEN, WELL, WE WON'T EVER FULLY KNOW WHAT'S WAITING FOR US AT THE CURLING CLUB OR WHAT HOW THAT CURLING CLUB FACTORS INTO OUR PLANS. 
          AND I'D RECOMMEND WE DO THE BDO REVEAL REGARDLESS. 
          IT'S RELATIVELY SMALL. 
          IT'S SEVENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS. TO GET US A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORT AT WHAT THIS NEW FACILITY WOULD LOOK LIKE OR COST US. 
          THESE ARE MR. GAGNON ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A RESOLUTION OF COUNCIL THIS EVENING TO SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE EXPENDITURE FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED? YES, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL IF COUNCIL WISHES. 
          WE COULD HANDLE THIS. 
          IT COMES DOWN TO THE SIX AND ONE HALF DOZEN THE OTHER. 
          WHETHER WE DEAL WITH THIS AS OPERATING COSTS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR OR WHETHER YOU TAKE IT STRAIGHT FROM THE WORKING FUNDS RESERVE, IT ENDS UP BEING ESSENTIALLY ONE OF THEM ONE AND THE SAME. THE BOTTOM LINE IS, DO YOU WISH TO HAVE THESE STUDIES DONE? AND IF SO, THIS IS THE MOST PRAGMATIC WAY OF GOING ABOUT DOING IT. 
          AND I VETTED THIS WITH MR. CRANE, OUR FACILITIES MANAGER AS WELL. 
          SO HE'S AWARE OF THESE FIRMS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD VALUE FOR GOOD DATA. 
          SO I LOOK FOR A MOVER TO APPROVE THE COST ESTIMATE OF ADDITIONAL SUPPORT [INAUDIBLE] PLANNING AND THE AMOUNT OF FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AS PER MR. GAGNON'S MEMO. 
          MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE. 
          COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, YOU HAD A QUESTION? I DID. 
          AT THE LAST PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THEY ACTUALLY HAD A RESOLUTION THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO COME FORWARD TO THE COMMITTEE, THE WHOLE THE NEXT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ASKING TO INCLUDE THE CURLING CLUB IN THE HUB. 
          AND THEIR REASONING WAS THAT THEY FEEL THAT IF THEY WANT IT LOOKED AT, WHICH I AGREE THEY WANT, AND THEY ALSO WANT TO BE CONSIDERED, BECAUSE IF WE WENT AHEAD WITH THE ARENA AND THE POOL AND SAID AT A LATER DATE WE WOULD ADD THAT CURLING CLUB, THEIR FEAR IS THAT THEY WOULD NEVER COME. 
          AND THEY WANTED TO KNOW THE COMPARISON OF THE TWIN PAD WITH THE ONE PLANT, ONE FOR CURLING AND ONE FOR ICE HOCKEY OR SKATING OR WHATEVER, ONE FOR AN ICE RINK. 
          AND THEY WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT COST WOULD BE CHEAPER TO START AT THE BEGINNING THAN TO HAVE TWO SEPARATE PLANTS, ONE ADDED AT A LATER DATE. 
          BUT WE WERE TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. 
          BUT AS WE'RE DISCUSSING IT NOW, I'M BRINGING FORWARD THAT THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY 
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COMMITTEE WERE IN FAVOR OF THIS GOING AHEAD. 
          WE HAD A GENTLEMAN FROM THE CURLING CLUB COME TO THE MEETING AND SPEAK ON ITS BEHALF. 
          AND SO I WOULD DEFINITELY MOVE THAT--. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO FIND OUT NOW. 
          I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO FIND OUT LATER. 
          WE CAN DECIDE AFTER WE FIND OUT ALL THE INFORMATION, WHAT WE WERE GOING. 
          BUT WE ASKED YOU TO BRING FORWARD ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN NOW SO WE CAN MAKE THE DECISION NOW ABOUT EVERYTHING. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS ALL PART OF THAT. 
          AND I DON'T THINK HOW WE COULD-- I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO LOOK AT FACILITIES AND NOT LOOK AT ALL THE OPTIONS AT THIS POINT. 
          COUNCILLOR TURNER. 
          THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. FOLLOWING ALONG WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, I HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE BDO FINANCIAL REVIEW. 
          WHEN WE RECEIVED THE RECENT REPORT FROM [INAUDIBLE] ARCHITECTS LAYING OUT THE, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED OPTIONS FOR THE SPORTS COMPLEX, THERE WERE OPTIONS THAT INCLUDED TWO PIECES, RANKED A POOL AND THEN ADDITIONS AND IN STAGES. 
          SO CAN WE ENSURE THAT BDO ADDRESSES THE FINANCIAL REVIEW IN THE SAME FASHION SO THAT WE'RE NOT STUCK WITH JUST A REVIEW OF WHAT IT COSTS FOR A RINK AND A POOL? WHAT IT COSTS IN TOTAL? FOR SOME REASON, IT GOES ALL TOGETHER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUST TO CLARIFY, ABSOLUTELY. 
          THAT IS PART OF THE COSTS YOU SEE AND CONTINGENCY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT BDO WORKS DIRECTLY WITH OUR ARCHITECTS SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE SPECKING INTO THE VARIOUS PHASES, SO THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING THE OPERATING COSTS FOR THE THIRTY EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS IF WE'RE ONLY DOING A SUBSET OF THAT. 
          SO, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          THEY WILL BE IT WILL BE GOOD, GOOD DATA BASED ON THE SAME PHASES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IF YOU DO PHASE ONE OR PHASE EIGHT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THIS IS WHAT IT WILL COST OPERATING. 
          THIS IS WHAT IT WILL COST CAPITAL AND THIS IS WHAT IT'LL BE DEFERRED OR THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD HAVE COST IF YOU MAINTAIN THE OLD FACILITY. 
          SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON ON THE VARIOUS PHASES AS WELL. 
          COUNCILLOR MANN. 
          THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I WILL SUPPORT THIS TONIGHT IF IT GOES FORWARD. 
          HOWEVER, I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF I REALLY NEED THIS PERSONALLY. 
          I THINK WE HAD ALREADY MADE THE DECISION ABOUT THE CURLING CLUB A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE WHY WE'RE TALKING BACK AND FORTH ABOUT ARE WE OR ARE WE NOT? THEY CAME FORWARD, CORRECT ME, THREE YEARS AGO AND SAID WE NEED TO. 
          AND I THINK FUNDAMENTALLY AT THAT TIME WE MADE THE DECISION, DO WE WANT CURLING IN ELLIOT LAKE OR DO WE NOT? AND WE SAID YES. 
          SO MY CONCERN MOVING FORWARD WILL BE ABOUT THE NUMBERS. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THESE SMALL AMOUNTS GETTING ADDED TO A BIGGER PILE. 
          AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A VERY FRANK DISCUSSION ON THE NUMBER AND HOW DO WE PAY FOR THAT NUMBER. 
          AND I THINK. ALL THESE OTHER NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE ADDED INTO THAT, AND I THINK WE'RE AT THAT POINT. GREAT TO HAVE A FINANCIAL REVIEW FOR SEVENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS. 
          NO ISSUE WITH THAT. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE ROOF IS THE ROOF. 
          AND THAT BUILDING IS THE SAME AGE AS SOME OF OUR OLDER FACILITIES IN THIS COMMUNITY, WHETHER WE OWN IT OR NOT, THEY CAME TO US TO SAY WE CAN'T CONTINUE, WE NEED HELP. 
          SO WHETHER WE ASSUME THE PROPERTY OR NOT, THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER DISCUSSION. 
          WE MAY NOT WANT THE PROPERTY IF THAT BECOMES SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD. 
          THAT, AGAIN, I THINK IS THE DISCUSSION FOR COUNCIL THAT IS MUCH LARGER THAN A FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR DISCUSSION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILLOR PATRIE. EXCUSE ME. 
          THANK YOU. I'M ON THE SAME LINES AS COUNCILLOR MANN, BUT I'M EVEN FURTHER, I THINK THE FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS IS A WASTE OF MONEY. 
          I DO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT IF WE CAN BUILD THE FACILITY, WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE THE CURLING CLUB. 
          SO IT'S TWOFOLD. 
          NUMBER ONE [INAUDIBLE] WE DON'T OWN THE BUILDING, SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S BUILDING. 
          YOU'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT THAT DOES THE LEGION COME FORWARD AND ASK US TO SPEND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS? DOES [INAUDIBLE]? DOES THE RENAISSANCE CENTER? DO ALL THE NONPROFITS THAT OWN FACILITIES IN THIS MUNICIPALITY COME FORWARD AND ASK US TO SPEND THIS KIND OF MONEY ON BUILDING ASSESSMENTS ON THEIR FACILITIES? I DON'T NEED A BUILDING ASSESSMENT TO CHANGE MY MIND. 
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I AGREE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS FACILITY, WE BUILD IT WHOLE. 
          I DON'T AGREE WITH DOING IT IN SEGMENTS. 
          IT'S GOT TO BE DONE BECAUSE IF YOU SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS IN SEGMENTS AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU EIGHT YEARS, DEPENDING ON WHERE THAT EIGHT YEAR CYCLE IS, THAT CAN BE THREE TERMS OF COUNCIL. AND YOU COULD JUST CONVERT ALL OF THIS PARTWAY THROUGH. 
          AND IT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME. 
          SO. I DON'T WANT-- YOU'RE TALKING FORTY SEVEN FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS BASED ON THIS REPORT, WHICH IS HALF A PERCENT OF A TAXATION YEAR. 
          A LOT OF MONEY. SO I WOULD RATHER NOT SPEND THE MONEY WHEN WE'RE UNDER THE PRETENSE THAT WE WANT TO INCLUDE THE CURLING CLUB IN THE NEW FACILITY WHEN WE BUILD IT ANYWAY. 
          SO I DON'T NEED SOMEBODY TO SAY, I BELIEVE WHAT THE CURLING CLUB SAYING THAT THEIR FACILITY IS AGING, OLDER THAN I AM. 
          I KNOW IT'S AGING. I'M AGING. 
          SO TO WASTE FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A REPORT TO TELL US THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY AGREE THAT WE WANT TO DO, I THINK IS JUST A BAD SPEND OF TAXPAYERS MONEY. SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF DOING THAT. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND A FACILITY TO MOVE FORWARD TO DO THE WHOLE THING IS A BIG PICTURE. 
          AND THEN THE SEVENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS TO BDO, THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT ON TODAY'S MARKET. IF WE DON'T END UP BUILDING THIS FACILITY TO THREE TO FIVE YEARS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WASTED THAT 7500 DOLLARS BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REDO IT IN THREE TO FIVE YEARS. THE ONE WE HAVE NOW IS FROM TWENTY SEVENTEEN AND WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT BECAUSE IT'S OUTDATED. SO I DON'T SEE THE REASON TO DO THAT IF WE'RE ALREADY IN AGREEMENT THAT WE WANT TO ADD THAT FACILITY TO THE NEW COMPLEX WHEN WE BUILD IT. 
          COUNCILLOR PEARCE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. 
          I'M GLAD TO HEAR THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL CONTINUING TO SUPPORT THE CURLING CLUB. 
          I THINK IT'S AN ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL PART OF THIS COMMUNITY, ESSENTIAL PART OF LIVING IN ELLIOT LAKE. AND COUNCILLOR PATRIE IS RIGHT. 
          THAT BUILDING IS OLD. IN FACT, I BELIEVE IT'S THE OLDEST STANDING BUILDING IN ELLIOT LAKE. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO SPENDING THE MONEY, ACTUALLY. 
          I THINK, AND THE RATIONALE FOR IT IS AS FOLLOWS. 
          THE DEAL THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE CURLING CLUB HAS ALWAYS BEEN IF THEY COME INTO THE HUB, WE TAKE OVER THEIR FACILITY, WE WOULD OWN THE PROPERTY, MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH IT. THAT'S IN EFFECT, IS WHAT THEY WOULD BE CONTRIBUTING TO THE HUB IS THAT LAND AND THAT BUILDING. 
          SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING. 
          SO I THINK THE MONEY WOULD BE WELL SPENT. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE. 
          I KNOW IT'S FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND OR FIFTY THOUSAND, ROUGHLY, LET'S BE STRAIGHT ABOUT IT, RIGHT? WELL, FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO ADD MATERIALLY TO THE OVERALL COST AND IT WILL HELP US IN THE LONG RUN WHEN WE'RE MAKING THE DECISIONS WE HAVE TO MAKE. THANK YOU. 
          OK, CONTINUE GOING AROUND. 
          A FULL STOP HERE FOR A SECOND, BECAUSE I'M HEARING COMMENTS THAT I DID NOT EXPECT TO BE HEARING IN THIS DISCUSSION. 
          WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH COUNCILLOR MANN AND COUNCILLOR PATRIE IN EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID. WE HAVE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST. 
          I REPEATEDLY OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS, AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, FORMER COUNCILLORS THAT WERE PART OF THE FORMER COUNCIL INCLUDED, INCLUDING [INAUDIBLE] COUNSELOR PATRIE AND COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, COUNCILLOR PEARCE. 
          WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT RECREATION IS HERE. 
          I HAVE ZERO INTEREST IN PHASING IN. 
          THIS HAS BEEN EXPLAINED BY DIFFERENT MINISTRIES AND ALL THE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS. IT NEVER HAPPENS. 
          PHASE TWO NEVER HAPPENS. 
          EITHER YOU BUILD ALL OR YOU BUILD NOTHING BECAUSE PHASE TWO WILL NEVER HAPPEN. 
          IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH COST INCREASES AND CHANGES. 
          THE COUNCIL CHANGES THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT JUST DROP THE BALL. 
          THAT'S MORE EXPENSIVE. [INAUDIBLE] AND ALSO WHAT'S ON PAPER ISN'T ALWAYS ACCURATE. 
          EITHER WE DO IT ALL AND WE DON'T DO ANYTHING. 
          I'M MORE INTERESTED IN WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS ON PAPER? SO BDO DOING AN UPDATE OF THIS ALL THE MATH WILL LET US KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO COST US ONE POINT OR THE TAXPAYERS, ALL OF US SAY ONE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, BUT THERE'S A COST SAVINGS, THERE'S EFFICIENCIES IN OPERATING A SAY HALF A MILLION. 
          WELL THAT'S DOWN TO 700000 NOW. 
          SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT INCREASES. 
          WHAT ARE WE SPENDING ON THOSE FACILITY UPDATES THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, THE REPAIRS, THE BANDAIDS, THE LIPSTICK ON A PIG THAT WE'RE DOING YEAR AFTER YEAR BECAUSE THOSE ARE GONE FOR THE NEXT 20 TO 30 YEARS. 
          SO, AGAIN, THAT MIGHT KNOCK OFF ANOTHER THREE 400000 DOLLARS. 
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THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A TAX INCREASE OF POTENTIALLY MAYBE THREE OR FOUR PERCENT TO COVER THE COST OF A NEW FACILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LAY OUT OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS. MR. GAGNON, YOU'RE SMILING OVER THERE. 
          AM I STEALING YOUR THUNDER? NO, SORRY. 
          I DIDN'T MEAN TO SMILE. I WAS MOSTLY-- NEVER MIND. 
          OH, WAIT TILL YOU'RE DONE. OK, SO I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THIS AND I WANT TO SEE A MOVE FORWARD. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE UPDATED NUMBERS ARE. 
          COUNCILLOR FINAMORE AND THEN COUNCILLOR CYR. 
          THANK YOU. THE REASON THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE WERE SENDING THIS FORWARD WAS BECAUSE OF THE CONFUSION THAT THEY FELT AFTER THE PRESENTATION BY THE ARCHITECTS THAT THEY DID IN SEPTEMBER. 
          ONE OF THE DIAGRAMS HAD THE CURLING RINK INCLUDED AND ONE DID NOT. 
          SO THEY WERE CONFUSED AS TO WHERE COUNCIL STOOD WITH IT. 
          AND THEY WERE AFRAID THAT THEY HAD BEEN DUMPED OFF THE SIDE WITHOUT BEING INFORMED AND TOLD. AND SO THAT WAS THE REASON THAT THEY CAME FORWARD. 
          FOR ME, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME NOW IF WE SPEND THE MONEY NOW OR LATER, EVENTUALLY WE WILL HAVE TO FIND OUT HOW THE BUILDING STRUCTURALLY IS. 
          BUT IF WE CAN SAVE THAT MONEY NOW, I'M TOTALLY FINE. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ALL ON BOARD HERE FOR IT TO BE INCLUDED. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED TO HEAR. 
          I THINK THAT THEY NEED A CLEAR AND CONCISE MESSAGE AND THE SAME MESSAGE, BECAUSE IT WAS AFTER IT WAS FROM THAT PRESENTATION THAT THEY WERE ALL A LITTLE PERPLEXED AS TO WHAT WAS ACTUALLY BEING TALKED ABOUT AND DISCUSSED AND WHAT WAS GOING ON. 
          AND MR. [INAUDIBLE] SAID IT ABSOLUTELY IS THE OLDEST BUILDING IN ELLIOT LAKE. 
          COUNCILLOR CYR. THANK YOU, WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. 
          IF WE DON'T DO THIS, WE PROBABLY WILL LOSE CURLING IN ELLIOT LAKE AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT TO SEE THAT. 
          AND I THINK WE COUNCIL SHOULD BE GOING IN EYES WIDE OPEN TO KNOW WHAT, FIRST OF ALL, THE STATE OF THE BUILDING, HOW LONGDOES IT STILL REALLY HAVE? YOU KNOW, AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE ACQUIRING A BUILDING WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE CONDEMNED AS SOON AS WE WALK IN. WE WANT TO BE EYES WIDE OPEN. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          IN THE BDO ASSESSMENT WILL GIVE US AN IDEA OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING IN THE NEW FACILITY. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, TOO. 
          SO I SUPPORT THIS. 
          COUNCILLOR TURNER. THANK YOU. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION HERE AND GET A GOOD LOOK AT THE BUILDING. IT IS SOMETHING THAT, IF WE MOVE AHEAD WITH THIS PLAN, IS AGREED THAT THE CURLING CLUB WOULD BE PART OF THE RECREATION COMPLEX, THEN THAT DEALS SAYS THAT THE OWNERSHIP OF THE EXISTING CURLING CLUB TRANSFERS TO US. 
          WHETHER WE USE IT AS A WAREHOUSE OR TAKE IT DOWN, WILL DEPEND ON WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT ITS STRUCTURE AND ALSO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S OPERABLE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          CRITICALLY, THOUGH, I THINK THAT SEVENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS TO BDO IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON NOW IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT WE'RE SPENDING ON EXISTING FACILITIES VERSUS WHAT THE PROJECTED SPEND IS ON OPERATING NEW. 
          NOW OF COURSE, THERE'S MAINTENANCE ON NEW ALSO, BUT I SUSPECT THAT WE WON'T BE BUYING FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR CHILLERS VERY FREQUENTLY. 
          THANK YOU. OK, VERY GOOD CONVERSATION ALL THE WAY AROUND. 
          UH. A HARD, HARD SET REALITY, I THINK SINCE 2009, THIS MUNICIPALITY HAS BEEN PROMISED MONEY FOR A COMPLEX THREE TIMES. 
          THE LAST TIME WAS JUST ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, AND IT WAS RIPPED AWAY VERY, VERY QUICKLY. WE WERE INCLUDED IN THE PROVINCIAL BUDGET, GOT TO CELEBRATE FOR A FEW DAYS. 
          SO IT'S BECOME A REALITY THAT UNFORTUNATELY, SOME OF THE HIGHER POWERS THAT BE DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ELLIOT LAKE AND ELK LAKE. 
          AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE THIS ONE OUT MAJORLY ON OUR OWN. 
          MR. GAGNON. 
          JUST I CAN'T HELP BUT REMIND COUNCIL THAT ALL THE DISCUSSIONS OF WHETHER THE CLUB WAS INCLUDED OR NOT WERE ALL PREDICATED ON THE OPPORTUNITY OF 70 PERCENT GRANT FUNDING FOR THE CAPITAL. WE'RE NOW STARING DOWN THE BARREL OF THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS HUB AT ZERO GRANT DOLLARS. AND THAT'S WHAT'S PROMPTED THE PHASING AND THE DESIRE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION SO 
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THAT WE CAN MAKE A MORE INFORMED DECISION WHEN IT COMES TO CAN WE AFFORD TO DO THIS OR NOT, BECAUSE THE TAX IMPLICATIONS WILL BE STAGGERING IF WE TRY TO DO THE ENTIRE FACILITY, INCLUDING THE CURLING CLUB, AT A 100 PERCENT MUNICIPAL SHARE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I'M RECOMMENDING WE DO THE DETAILED DESIGN. 
          WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND SOMETHING THAT IS A COMPROMISE THAT ALLOWS THE CLUB TO CONTINUE TO FUNCTION WHILE WE'RE STILL STUDYING THIS OR PHASING IT IN. 
          AND IN THE BEST CASE SCENARIO, WE'RE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS BEFORE WE HAVE ANY NEW FUNCTION OR NEW BUILDING OPEN, REGARDLESS OF SCOPE. 
          WE HAVE THE DESIGN TO TENDERING EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          SO WE NEED TO DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS OF STATUS QUO WITH THE EXISTING FACILITIES AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN AFFORD. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I'M RECOMMENDING  THESE STUDIES. 
          COUNCILLOR PATRIE. FINAL COMMENT. 
          BASED ON THE COMMENTS OF THE [INAUDIBLE], I STAND FAST ON WHAT I SAID, YOU'RE WASTING FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS ON SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT IN FIVE YEARS. IF WE'RE GOING TO END UP OWNING THE BUILDING, WE'LL WORRY ABOUT IT IF AND WHEN WE GET TO DO THAT. 
          I DON'T-- I'VE NEVER WAVERED. 
          I DO NOT WANT TO PUT 40 MILLION DOLLARS ON THE BACK OF THE TAXPAYERS. 
          BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD IT, YOU'VE GOT TO BUILD IT ALL TOGETHER. 
          SO IT'S FINE TO SPEND MONEY AND APPLY FOR GRANTS TO BE READY TO GET THAT ONTO THE TABLE. 
          BUT WE'RE JUST SPENDING MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO BUILD. 
          WE DON'T HAVE 40 MILLION DOLLARS. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE TAXPAYERS OF THE MUNICIPALITY WANT US TO SPEND 40 MILLION DOLLARS TO BUILD THIS COMPLEX. 
          IT'S WAY TOO MUCH OF A TAX INCREASE. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO PUT TOO MANY PEOPLE OUT OF BUSINESS OR OUT OF TOWN WITH THE TAX INCREASES. I JUST I DON'T AGREE WITH IT BEING THAT ASPECT. 
          SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE JUST MAKING THE BILL BIGGER AND BIGGER BY SPENDING MONEY OUT OF THE TAXPAYERS COFFERS INSTEAD OF WAITING TO DO IT WHEN YOU CAN APPLY FOR GRANTS AND DO IT WITH GRANT MONEY. 
          ALRIGHTY, UH, DO WE HAVE A RESOLUTION ON THE TABLE, MS. BRAY, WOULD YOU MIND, PLEASE? THAT COUNCIL APPROVED AN UP SET LIMIT OF FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED FOR ADDITIONAL SPORTS HUB PLANNING. 
          MR. GAGNON. WOULD IT BE FRIENDLY TO CLARIFY WHETHER YOU PREFER IT'S SIX ON ONE OR TWO DOZEN THE OTHER, BUT TO BE TAKEN FROM THE OPERATING BUDGET OF TWENTY TWENTY OR TO BE TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THE WORKING FUNDS RESERVE SO THAT WE CAN, JUST FOR AUDITING PURPOSES, OUR TREASURER IS NODDING. 
          WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM. 
          SO IT'S GOING TO COME OUT IN THE WASH ANYWAY. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY'S MOVING IN SECOND OR HAVING A STRONG OPINION, WHETHER IT JUST BE CASH MANAGED OUT OF THE 2020 OPERATING BUDGETS, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE THE SAFEST. AND THEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WHEN WE DO THE YEAR END, WE'LL DETERMINE WHETHER WHAT IS LEFT OVER THAT WOULD BE GOING TO THE WORKING FUNDS RESERVE OR NOT. 
          YOU JUST ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION. 
          SO IF THE MOVER AND SECOND ARE OK WITH, YOU KNOW, THE 2020 OPERATING BUDGET, THEN THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION WITH THAT. 
          COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. SHOULD WE BE SPLITTING THIS? BECAUSE IT SOUNDED LIKE PEOPLE WERE MORE IN FAVOR OF THE SEVENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR BDO THAN THEY WERE FOR THE FORTY SEVEN FOR THE--. 
          SO WE DON'T DEFEAT BOTH OR JUST ASKING. 
          CAN VOTE ON IT, AND IF IT DOESN'T GO FORWARD, YOU CAN LOOK AT A SEPARATE RESOLUTION. 
          BUT I'M PRETTY SURE WE JUST TOLD WE HAVE A YEAR END SURPLUS OF SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND. OK, SO CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE. 
          COUNCILLOR TURNER. FAVOR. 
          COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. FAVOR. 
          COUNCILLOR PEARCE. 
          FAVOR. 
          COUNCILLOR PATRIE. OPPOSED. 
          COUNCILLOR MANN. IN FAVOR. 
          COUNCILLOR CYR. IN FAVOR. 
          I'M IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED, THANK YOU. 
          NINE POINT TWO, ARTS AND CULTURE HUB UPDATE. 
          MR. GAGNON. SWITCHING GEARS TO THE ARTS HUB, OUR CONSULTANTS, BROOKE MCELROY AND MYSELF DID A PRESENTATION TO THE SERVER OF FIRST NATION BAND COUNCIL MEETING LAST WEEK TO PRESENT TO THEM SORT OF THE CONCEPT OR NOT THE CONCEPT YET WITH THE PROJECT OF THE REVIEW OF THE ARTS AND CULTURE HUB AND HOW TO REPLACE THE LOST ASSETS AT THE CIVIC CENTER. 
          IT WAS WELL RECEIVED. THEY'VE APPOINTED A COUNSELOR AND I BELIEVE THE CHIEF SAID HE WAS GOING TO BE SITTING IN ON FUTURE STEERING COMMITTEE MEETINGS. 
          SO THEY'RE AT THE TABLE AND WORKING WITH US, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          WE WANT THEIR INPUT INTO THE WHAT THAT ARTS AND CULTURE HUB WILL END UP LOOKING LIKE AND INCLUDE AND ENTAIL. 
          SO THAT BODES WELL. 
          THAT'S PROGRESS. 
          LATER ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING, WE HAVE THE FUNDING AGREEMENT AS A BYLAW. 
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SO I'M ABLE NOW BECAUSE OF THAT, TO REPORT TO COUNCIL THAT WE DON'T NEED TO BE COY ANYMORE, THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, CANADIAN HERITAGE HAS PROVIDED 50 CENT FUNDING FOR THE EIGHTY NINE THOUSAND DOLLAR FEASIBILITY STUDY. 
          SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A GOOD NEWS. 
          IT'S ALSO GOOD TO HOOK THEM IN ON THE STUDY SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THEM AT THE TABLE WHEN IT COMES TO THE CAPITAL STAGE. 
          THEY COULD FUND 50 TO 75 PERCENT OF THE CAPITAL, WHICH WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY IDEAL. 
          WE ARE FINALLY GETTING CLOSER TO LAUNCHING THE SURVEY TO THE COMMUNITY IN A HARDCOPY FORMAT. WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A MAIL DROP, THE ONLINE VERSION OF THE SURVEY. 
          THIS IS JUST BASICALLY TO SEEK INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. 
          WE'VE ALREADY ROLLED OUT SURVEYS FOR THE STAKEHOLDERS, THE FORMER TENANTS AND THE COMMUNITY LEADERS. BUT WE WERE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL AS TO WHAT SHOULD BE GOING INTO THAT ARTS AND CULTURE HUB. 
          SO WE'RE HOPING TO GET THAT SURVEY OUT BY THE END OF THE WEEK TO ALL THE ADDRESSES IN ELLIOT LAKE. 
          AND THEN BACK TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE. 
          IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE EITHER NOW OR I CAN BRING IT BACK AT ANOTHER DATE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE STARTED THIS INFORMAL SORT OF STEERING COMMITTEE WHEN IT COMES TO THE ARTS AND CULTURE PROJECT. 
          WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MEMBERS FROM THE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMUNITY, MR. ITO [INAUDIBLE] AND MURRAY FINN, WORKING WITH MS. HENNESSY AND MYSELF AS AN INFORMAL STEERING COMMITTEE. 
          THEY WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN SELECTING THE FIRM IN THE FIRST PLACE WHEN AN EVALUATION OF PROPOSALS SCENARIO. 
          AND NOW WE'RE ROLLING INTO THE PROJECT. 
          BUT WE HAVEN'T FORMALIZED THAT COMMITTEE IN ANY WAY. 
          WE HAVE THE SPORTS HUB AD HOC COMMITTEE, WHICH IS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, A COUNCIL, AND WE HAVE THIS INFORMAL STRUCTURE OF A STEERING COMMITTEE WITH NO STRUCTURE OF AN INFORMAL STEERING COMMITTEE. AND NOW WE'VE INVITED OUR FIRST NATION NEIGHBORS TO SIT ON IT. 
          SO WE MAY WANT TO FORMALIZE THAT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER INTO A BIT OF A WORKING GROUP, A STEERING COMMITTEE OF SOME SORT. 
          AND IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AT THAT TIME, I THINK, TO INVITE A MEMBER OF COUNCIL OR TWO TO SIT IN ON THAT EXERCISE, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR FIRST NATION NEIGHBORS AT THE TABLE. 
          SO JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE OF THE ART SUB, OF COURSE, UPDATE ON EVERY COUNCIL MEETING. WE CAN DEAL WITH IT NOW IF WE WANT OR I CAN COME BACK WITH A MEMO OR A COUPLE OF OPTIONS ON WHAT THAT STEERING COMMITTEE WOULD LOOK LIKE AND THEN SEEK A LITTLE BIT FIRMER DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AS TO HOW TO FORMALIZE THAT GOING FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU, MR. GAGNON. I DEFINITELY PREFER TO SEE A MEMO WITH RECOMMENDATION OPTIONS FOR THAT, SO WE DO IT RIGHT. 
          COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, YOU HAVE A QUESTION COMMENT? I JUST DID THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP, I JUST I THINK THAT THIS MOVE FORWARD TO INCLUDE SERPENT RIVER IS AN IMPORTANT ONE IN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S THEIR CULTURE AS WELL THAT WE WANT TO CAPTURE AND BE PART OF THIS. 
          AND I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE STEERING COMMITTEE BE FORMALIZED AND THAT IT DOES INCLUDE EITHER ONE OR TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          I WOULD CERTAINLY PUT MY NAME FORWARD TO SIT ON THAT COMMITTEE AS I'M VERY INVOLVED AND INVESTED IN THE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMITTEES AND I SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION AND OF WORKING TOGETHER IN A COHESIVE WAY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN FOR THE ARTS AND CULTURE HUB THAT WE WILL BE BUILDING. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S WONDERFUL NEWS THAT WE'VE GOT THE FUNDING SO FAR FOR THE STUDY. 
          SO THAT'S VERY POSITIVE NEWS. 
          COUNCILLOR PEARCE. THANK YOU, WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. GAGNON. MR. GAGNON, YOU MENTIONED SERPENT RIVER, BUT HAVE YOU HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH ANYBODY FROM MISSISSAUGA FIRST NATION? HAVE WE REACHED OUT TO THEM? AND WE'VE EXCHANGED A COUPLE OF EMAILS, BUT THEY'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT DISTRACTED, I BELIEVE, WITH ELECTIONS. 
          SO WE'LL MAKE ANOTHER EFFORT TO GET THEM TO THE TABLE AS WELL. 
          BUT THE OFFER HAS BEEN MADE. 
          THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED A STAFF PERSON. 
          WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO CLOSE THE LOOP ON THAT JUST YET. 
          BUT THE INTENT AND IT'S WELL KNOWN BY BOTH BAND COUNCILS THAT WE WISH TO HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM BOTH MISSISSAUGA FIRST NATION AND SERPENT RIVER ON THIS STEERING COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT THIS PROJECT WILL ENTAIL GOING FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OK, THANK YOU, MR. GAGNON. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO A REPORT POTENTIALLY NEXT MEETING WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION, AND WE KNOW THAT COUNCILLOR FINAMORE HAS A DESIRE TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE. 
          AND IF ANYONE ELSE HAS THE DESIRE, PLEASE SEND THAT FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU. NINE POINT THREE RESIDENTIAL WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS STANDING ITEM, IS 
          [01:40:01]
THERE ANY UPDATES THAT REQUIRE THIS TO GO IN CLOSED SESSION? MR. GAGNON. NOT THIS EVENING. 
          I'LL WORK ON A MEMO FOR OUR MAYBE OUR NEXT MEETING. 
          THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PEARSON SENT US SOME INFORMATION A WHILE AGO. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THIS, AND I HOPE THAT WHEN WE HAVE A MEETING, I WOULD HOPE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER THAT THERE BE MORE INFORMATION. 
          I'LL BE GOING OUT TOMORROW WITH STAFF MEMBERS TO REVIEW CERTAIN AREAS AND BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL, HOPEFULLY BY NEXT WEEK. 
          THANK YOU. GOOD STUFF. 
          TEN PETITION'S ARE NONE. 
          11 CORRESPONDENCE, ELEVEN POINT ONE LETTER FROM ELNOS BUSINESS RESTART PROJECT UPDATE. 
          SINCE ANNOUNCING THE BUSINESS RESTART PROJECT ELNOS HAS RECEIVED SEVERAL INQUIRIES FOR 
          [11. CORRESPONDENCE]
ASSISTANCE. BELOW IS THE CURRENT STATS. 
          NUMBER OF APPLICANTS RECEIVED 30 NUMBER APPROVED 24. 
          TOTAL AMOUNT DISPERSED THIRTY THREE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY NINE DOLLARS TWENTY FOUR CENTS. 
          APPLICATIONS PENDING SIX. 
          TOTAL FUNDS PENDING NINE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND SEVENTY. 
          ADMIN FEES UP TO DATE TO TWO THOUSAND FIVE FORTY TWO FIFTY. 
          REMAINING BALANCE IN FUND THREE THOUSAND SIX THIRTY EIGHT TWENTY SIX CENTS. 
          AND IT SAYS DUE TO THE RECENT PROVINCIAL ANNOUNCEMENT THAT [INAUDIBLE] INTO THE NORTHERN ONTARIO RECOVERY PROGRAM HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED. 
          THE CITY MAY WISH TO CONSIDER REPLENISHING THE PROGRAM. 
          FAILING WHICH WOULD BE ELNOS INTENT TO CONCLUDE THE CURRENT PROGRAM WITHIN THE CALENDAR YEAR. SO IT'S NOT JUST AN UPDATE. 
          AND PERHAPS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING COME BUDGET. 
          WHETHER THERE'S THE NEED FOR REFILLING THIS AMOUNT AND FOR WHAT I KNOW, WE PUT THIS OUT TO HELP SOME OF THE BUSINESSES WITH THE FANCY PLEXIGLASS THAT WE HAVE ALL AROUND US HERE AND BEING ABLE TO REOPEN THEIR BUSINESSES. 
          I'M KIND OF CURIOUS WHAT NEEDS MIGHT BE IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO A POTENTIAL CONVERSATION IN THE FUTURE UNLESS THERE'S ANY COMMENTS. 
          QUESTIONS? OK, SO MOTION TO RECEIVE, MOVED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, SECOND, MY COUNCILLOR MANN AGAIN, NO, NO FURTHER COMMENTS. 
          I'LL CALL. OK. 
          ROLL CALL ON THE RECEIVING, COUNCILLOR PATRIE. 
          OPPOSED. OK. COUNCILLOR MANN? IN FAVOR. 
          COUNCILLOR CYR? IN FAVOR. 
          COUNCILLOR TURNER. FAVOR. 
          COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? IN FAVOR. 
          COUNCILLOR PEARCE? FAVOR. 
          I'M IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED. 
          AS NO NOTICE OF MOTION THIS EVENING. 
          COUNCILS REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          A FEW THINGS HERE. 
          SO COUNCIL'S REPORT FOR NOVEMBER, TWENTY THIRD 2020 CHRISTMAS TOY DRIVE, THAT'S NEXT 
          [13. COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS]
FRIDAY, DECEMBER THE 4TH. 
          THE SALVATION ARMY IS HOSTING THEIR TOY DRIVE AND [INAUDIBLE] FAMILIES SUPPORTING IT WITH THE YEARLY RADIOTHON. 
          I BELIEVE IT'S GRAHAM THOMPSON THAT IS OUR NEW RADIO HOST WILL BE HOSTING THE RADIOTHON. 
          AND THAT IS FROM 10 A.M. 
          TO FOUR P.M. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S NEXT FRIDAY THE 4TH. 
          AND PLEASE HELP ENSURE ALL CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY WILL HAVE THE JOY OF GIFTS UNDER THE TREE THIS YEAR. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN GREATLY SUPPORTED IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          A LITTLE DIFFERENT WITH COVID, BUT I HOPE EVERYONE IS ABLE TO HELP OUT AGAIN. 
          THIS WILL BE FOLLOWED BY THE CHRISTMAS FOOD DRIVE. 
          2020 VIRTUAL FOOD DRIVE WILL BE TAKING PLACE SATURDAY, DECEMBER 5TH, FROM 9:00 A.M. 
          TO ONE P.M. AT THE FORMER CIVIC CENTER PARKING LOT. 
          DUE TO THE COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS, THEY CANNOT BE ACCEPTING FOOD DONATIONS THIS YEAR. 
          THEY CAN ACCEPT CASH, CHECK OR DEBIT. 
          THERE WILL BE THREE DEBIT MACHINES. 
          A LOT WILL BE PLOWED FOR DRIVE LANES TO BE CLEARLY MARKED OUT, CREATING A DRIVE THROUGH SITUATION. VOLUNTEERS WILL HAVE BUCKETS, COLLECT DONATIONS ALONG WITH THE DEBIT MACHINES. 
          AGAIN, SO IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR WHERE WE'RE HELPING HELPING FAMILIES OUT NOT JUST WITH TOYS, BUT ALSO WITH FOOD. 
          CHRISTMAS PARADE. 
          SO WE ALL HAVE OUR MAP SITTING HERE AND I'M HOPING WILL BE ABLE TO FIND THESE ONLINE, BUT I KNOW THEY'LL BE IN THE STANDARD WEDNESDAY ALSO. 
          THIS IS THE ROUTE. SO THIS IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE. 
          WE HAVE 41ST ANNUAL CHRISTMAS PARADE COMING THIS FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 27TH, FROM SIX P.M. 
          [01:45:04]
TO EIGHT P.M. THIS YEAR. 
          IT'S A STATIC PARADE, MEANING ALL THE FLOATS WILL BE REMAINING IN PLACE, SCATTERED AROUND THE COMMUNITY. AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO LOAD YOUR VEHICLE WITH YOUR FAMILY, WHOEVER'S IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD TO DRIVE AROUND AND SEE THE DISPLAYS AND HELP EVERYONE GET INTO THAT GREAT CHRISTMAS SPIRIT. I'M LOOKING AT THIS. 
          WE HAVE 33 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WITH PROBABLY ABOUT 45 DIFFERENT SETUPS I'M LOOKING AT HERE. 
          MS. HENNESY. ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT? THAT'S ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. 
          I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO IT BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY BUMMER OF A YEAR FOR MOST PEOPLE. SO BEING ABLE TO GET AROUND AND SEE THE FLOATS, SEE THE LIGHTS, SEE CANDYLAND IN ELLIOT LAKE IS GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. 
          AND MAYBE I'LL TAKE A SNAPSHOT AND POST THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, BECAUSE WE WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT THE MAPS. THAT'S HOW SPECIAL COUNCIL IS. 
          WE GET THE MAPS BEFORE EVERYONE ELSE. 
          RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. 
          WHAT TIME IT'S FROM SIX P.M. 
          TO EIGHT P.M. THIS FRIDAY, FRIDAY THE 27TH. 
          COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? JUST TO ADD TO THAT, YOUR WORSHIP, THAT THERE WILL BE BUS SERVICE AVAILABLE MR. HALLOCH IS WORKING ON GETTING FOUR BUSSES. 
          THE CITY BUSSES WILL BE RUNNING THE ROUTES AND THEY WILL INCORPORATE SIMPSON PARK AND ALL THE PLACES THAT ARE ON THIS MAP. 
          THANK YOU A MILLION FOR THE MAP AND WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE'S A WHOLE STREET THAT WILL BE LIT UP, NOT JUST HOUSES, BUT A WHOLE STREET HAS COME FORWARD WITH THEIR STREET. 
          SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT PEOPLE HAVE DONE THIS AND I HOPE EVERYONE ENJOYS IT. 
          I GOT A LITTLE GLIMPSE OF SOME OF SUDBURY'S HAVING A VIRTUAL PARADE, SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO WATCH IT ON TV. 
          AND EVERYONE WAS INVITED TO SUBMIT A PICTURE OF A FLOAT AND THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME KIND OF A VIRTUAL MAP. 
          SO LOOK TO SUDBURY FOR THAT. 
          I'M HOPING THAT WE CAPTURE SOME GOOD PICTURES THAT WE CAN GET OUR PHOTOGRAPHER TO. 
          I'M SURE HE WILL CAPTURE PICTURES AND DOWNLOAD IT ONTO OUR WEBSITE AS WELL. 
          THE MAP WILL BE ON THE WEBSITE. 
          IT'LL BE IN THE STANDARD AND OF COURSE, AT THE WELCOME CENTER. 
          EXCELLENT. AND JUST ON YOUR COMMENT OF TRANSIT, I HAD A HEADLINE ABOUT TRANSIT CHANGES COMING IN DECEMBER. THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH, AGAIN. SO THE WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE INCREASED TIMES FOR THE THURSDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHTS SOMETIME IN DECEMBER. 
          WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT. WHERE'S MY TRANSIT APP GO LIVE. 
          WHICH MEANS YOU'LL BE ABLE TO USE YOUR YOUR PHONE, YOUR COMPUTER AND FIND OUT IS YOUR IS YOUR BUS RUNNING LATE THAT DAY? IS IT A LITTLE EARLIER? KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT IS AT ALL TIME. 
          WHAT'S NEXT TIME IT'S COMING AROUND. 
          THAT'S GREAT. AND WE'LL ALSO BE GETTING THE SUNDAY SERVICE. 
          SO THIS IS ALL FOR DECEMBER. 
          SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR COUNCIL'S REPORT. 
          OTHER THAN THE NUMBERS, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? I JUST WOULD LIKE TO I THINK IT WOULD BE REMISS NOT TO WISH ELIJAH HENNESY HIS THIRD BIRTHDAY, WISH HIM A HAPPY BIRTHDAY, AND GIVEN THE WELL WISHES OF ELLIOT LAKE AS HE HEADS OFF TO SICK KIDS FOR SOME VERY IMPORTANT TESTING TO SEE WHAT TYPE OF FUTURE MEDICAL OPERATIONS THAT THIS LITTLE BOY IS GOING TO HAVE. 
          BUT TODAY WAS HIS TODAY IS HIS THIRD BIRTHDAY. 
          SO I HOPE EVERYONE IN ELLIOT LAKE JOINS ME IN WISHING HIM A HAPPY BIRTHDAY. 
          I HEAR HE HAD A GOOD DAY. SO HE HAD A PARADE ON SATURDAY, WHICH HE WAS WOWING ABOUT. 
          YOU COULD HEAR AS YOU WERE DRIVING UP TO HIM YELLING, WOW. 
          SO HE WAS QUITE IMPRESSED WITH THE LOVE SHOWN FROM ELLIOT LAKERS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. EXCELLENT. 
          HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ELIJAH, FOR SURE. 
          AND IT'S GREAT FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY. 
          IT'S EXCELLENT. COUNCILLOR MANN? THANK YOU. YOUR WORSHIP IS ALWAYS HARD TO FOLLOW ANNOUNCEMENTS LIKE THAT, BUT I'LL ATTEMPT TO I'D LIKE TO SCHEDULE THE FIRST BUDGET MEETING ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 30TH AT 4:00 P.M.. 
          THANKS. IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TREASURER, BEGIN WITH OUR NORMAL PAST PRACTICE OF ATTEMPTING TO GET THROUGH WATER, WASTEWATER SCHEDULING, THE BALANCE OF THE THE MEETINGS, OR AT LEAST ATTEMPTING TO TRYING TO STICK TO THE MONDAY SCHEDULE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, RECOGNIZING, OF COURSE, WE ALL CAN'T ATTEND, BUT WE'LL TRY OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL PRESENT. 
          AND SO I'D LIKE MONDAY, FOUR PM, NOVEMBER 30TH IN CHAMBERS, PLEASE. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN. WAS THAT FOUR P.M. 
          SHARP OR 415? 4:05 WITH TRAFFIC. 
          4:05 WITH TRAFFIC. 
          OK, THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. 
          OK, IF THERE'S NO OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR COUNCIL'S REPORT, I'LL HIT THOSE BIG CHECK RATE NUMBERS. SO THIS IS FOR NOVEMBER 12TH 2020. 
          [INAUDIBLE] GENERAL FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED. 
          AJ BUS LINES, OCTOBER TRANSIT TWENTY THREE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED. 
          [INAUDIBLE] DISTRICT SERVICE ADMIN BOARD NOVEMBER [INAUDIBLE] ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY TWO 
          [01:50:02]
THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED. IMAGE CONSTRUCTION OCTOBER LANDFILL THREE QUARTER AND STONE. 
          [INAUDIBLE] TRUCK TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED. 
          ELLIOT LAKE FAMILY HEALTH TEAM PHYSICIAN RECRUITMENT AND THE VIRTUAL CLINIC A HUNDRED SIX THOUSAND. 
          OMER'S FORTY THREE THOUSAND NINE SIXTY. 
          WENDELL FARQUHAR TRUCKING GRANULE AND COBBLESTONE TWENTY NINE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED. 
          JUST FROM THE PHYSICIAN RECRUITMENT VIRTUAL CLINIC. 
          I'D LIKE TO WELCOME DR. 
          NELSON, A NEW PHYSICIAN FROM ELLIOT LAKE. 
          WELCOME BACK HOME AND WE HOPE YOU'RE STUCK HERE FOR YOUR WHOLE CAREER. 
          WHAT'S THAT? WHOLE CAREER, SHE'S STAYING HERE, NO GIGGLING OVER THERE, SHE'S STAYING HERE. 
          OK, NO ADDENDUM, INTRODUCTION, CONSIDERATION OF BYLAWS, FIFTEEN POINT ONE BYLAW. 
          20-83 BEING A BYLAW TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR DEMOLITION AND SITE RESTORATION WORK OF 46 ONTARIO AVENUE AND 22 PHILIP WALK. 
          [15. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF BY-LAWS]
CAN I HAVE A MOVER PLEASE. MOVE BY COUNCILLOR CYR, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER. 
          IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED. 
          FIFTEEN POINT TWO BYLAW, 20-84 BEING A BY LAW TO AUTHORIZE AN AGREEMENT WITH CUPE LOCAL 170 AND REPEALED BY LAW NUMBER 16-73. 
          MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER. 
          ANY QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED. 
          THANK YOU. FIFTEEN POINT THREE BY LAW, 20-85 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE A GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE MINISTER OF CANADIAN HERITAGE FOR THE ARTS AND CULTURE FEASIBILITY STUDY. 
          MOVED BY COUNCILLOR CYR, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. 
          QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? NONE, ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED. 
          THANK YOU. PUBLIC QUESTION PERIOD. 
          DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC QUESTIONS FOR THIS EVENING'S AGENDA OR LAST MEETING'S AGENDA. 
          UNLESS YOU MS. BRAY HAD NOTHING? NOTHING. CLOSED SESSION. 
          MOVER TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION. 
          MOVED BY COUNCILLOR CYR. 
          SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED. WE'RE NOW CLOSED SESSION. 
          THANK YOU FOR WATCHING. ALL RIGHT, CAN I HAVE A MOVER TO RETURN TO OPEN SESSION? 
          [17. CLOSED SESSION (if applicable)]
MOVED BY COUNCILLOR CYR SECOND BY COUNCILLOR MANN. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED. WE'RE NOW BACK IN OPEN SESSION, COMING OUT OF CLOSED SESSION, LOOKING FOR A RESOLUTION HERE THAT THE FOLLOWING BE APPOINTED TO THE FOLLOWING COMMITTEES. 
          [INAUDIBLE] NICHOLSON BE APPOINTED TO THE ACCESSIBILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          [INAUDIBLE] CAMPBELL BE APPOINTED TO THE ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          GORDON MCCARTHY WILL BE APPOINTED TO THE ELLIOT LAKE NUCLEAR MINING MUSEUM BOARD. 
          BECKY [INAUDIBLE] BE APPOINTED TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND CAROL ROT TO BE APPOINTED TO THE COMMITTEE OF ADJUSTMENT. 
          MOVER PLEASE. 
          MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER. 
          I LIKE TO SAY WELCOME AND HOPEFULLY THINGS CAN START RAMPING UP AS COVID STARTS TO FADE AWAY. CALL FOR THE VOTE, ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU. 
          CONFIRMATORY BYLAW, EIGHTEEN POINT ONE BYLAW, 20-86 BEING BYLAW CONFIRMING THE PROCEEDINGS OF COUNCIL AT ITS MEETING HELD NOVEMBER 23, 2020. 
          MOVER PLEASE. 
          MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER. 
          [18. CONFIRMATORY BY-LAW]
A ROLL CALL VOTE. 
          MY PEN JUST EXPLODED. 
          COUNCILLOR PATRIE? OPPOSED. 
          COUNCILLOR MANN? IN FAVOR. 
          COUNCILLOR CYR? IN FAVOR. 
          COUNCILLOR TURNER? FAVOR. 
          COUNCILLOR FENNIMORE? IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PEARCE? IN FAVOR. I'M IN FAVOR. 
          THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU. 
          AND A MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN. AND SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED. WE'RE NOW ADJOURNED. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.