Feb 08, 2021 City Council

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SECTION 17, CLOSED SESSION.

THAT THE CLOSED SESSION, MEANING BE DEFERRED UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT COUNCIL CAN MEET IN PERSON. I HAVE TWO ISSUES WITH THIS RESOLUTION.

IT'S CONTRARY TO OUR PROCEDURAL BYLAW BEING THE FIRST.

OUR PROCEDURAL BYLAW MOTIONS TO DEFER STATES THERE SHALL BE GIVEN A REASON AND A TIME CERTAIN TO WHICH THE MATTER IS DEFERRED, AND IT'S A MATTER NOT ALL MATTERS.

THAT'S THE FIRST ISSUE, SO IT DOESN'T MEET OUR PROCEDURAL BYLAW.

AND IT ALSO STATES THAT COUNCIL CAN MEET IN PERSON, COUNCIL CAN MEET IN PERSON AT ANY TIME. WE'RE CONSIDERED ESSENTIAL AND WE CAN MEET IN PERSON.

MANY OF US DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE MEETING IN PERSON, AND THAT'S FINE.

ONE OF THE ISSUES I HAVE WITH THIS IS.

ACCORDING TO THE MUNICIPAL ACT, ONE OF MY POSITIONS IS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF CITY BUSINESS EFFECTIVELY, EFFICIENTLY, IN A TIMELY MANNER.

SO THIS IS HINDERING MOVING FORWARD WITH CITY BUSINESS AND SOME THINGS THAT ARE TIME SENSITIVE. ITEMS SUCH AS PROPERTY LEASES, PROPERTY NEGOTIATIONS AND LITIGATION THAT IS CURRENTLY PENDING. WE'VE ALSO ALL SWORN AN OATH OF CONFIDENTIALITY, SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TRUST EACH OTHER, THAT WE'RE IN A SECURE PLACE AT HOME, IF WE DO CLOSE SESSION, WE ASSUME AND I KNOW EVERYBODY THAT I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW HAS ATTENDED CLOSED SESSION VIA ZOOM ON OTHER BOARDS.

SO THAT SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.

SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF POINTS THERE.

AGAIN, THIS DOESN'T MEET OUR PROCEDURAL BYLAW.

MR. GAGNON HAS A FULL AGENDA OF JUST CLOSED SESSION ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF IN THE NEAR FUTURE. AND SO I WILL BE CALLING A SPECIAL MEETING IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO TAKE CARE OF THESE ITEMS. THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE A MOVE IN A SECOND OR TO ADOPT, SO I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. DOES ANYONE NEED A ROLL CALL? ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU. NO PUBLIC PRESENTATION, INTRODUCTION, CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS, I

[*This meeting was joined in progress* 6. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS]

CAN I HAVE A MOVER TO SUSPEND PROCEDURAL BYLAW-- 6.2 SORRY, 6.2 CORRECT.

CAN I HAVE A MOVER TO SUSPEND THE PROCEDURAL BYLAW [INAUDIBLE].

THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

SECONDER? COUNCILOR CYR, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED, THANK YOU.

SO WE'LL START WITH SIX POINT ONE REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS SUMMARY REPORT FROM MUNICIPALITIES RECOMMENDATION, THE STAFF REPORT 2020.

WATER SUMMARY REPORT DATED FEBRUARY 2ND TWENTY TWENTY ONE OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED AND THAT THE SUMMARY REPORT FROM THE MUNICIPALITY BE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND MADE AVAILABLE IN PRINT, FREE OF CHARGE TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC UPON REQUEST. CAN I HAVE A MOVER PLEASE.

MOVED BY COUNCILOR TURNER, SECOND BY COUNCILOR MANN.

MR. HALLOCH, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

YES, THANK YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.

THIS IS AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT WE BRING TO THE COUNCIL EVERY YEAR TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THROUGH THE WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, EVERYTHING'S WORKING GOOD.

THIS IS A COMPLIANCE ISSUE THAT THROUGH THE REGULATIONS, THE SAFE DRINKING WATER ACT, REGULATION 170.

WE ARE TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION SENT TO THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT, AS WELL AS TO LET COUNCIL KNOW THAT EVERYTHING'S WORKING GOOD WITH THE ACTUAL WATER SYSTEM AND LET THE PUBLIC AS WELL KNOW. SO BASICALLY, THIS IS STATING A LOT OF THE THINGS LIKE WE'RE ALLOWED TO TAKE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WATER OUT OF THE LAKE PER YEAR.

WE'VE GOT TO BE UNDER THAT FOR COMPLIANCE.

THINGS LIKE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE A CERTAIN AMOUNT PER HOUR.

SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE ADDED UP AS WELL AS WE'RE MAINTAINING CHLORINE RESIDUALS IN THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.

AND WHEN WE'RE NOT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S AN ADVERSE REPORT ON THERE AND YOU'LL SEE QUITE A FEW ADVERSE. BUT REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS WE SIDE MORE ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION. SO A LOT OF THE TIMES WHENEVER WE'RE DEALING WITH A WATER MAIN BREAK, WE AUTOMATICALLY PUT ON A BOIL WATER TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE.

LOTS OF TIMES WE CAN PROBABLY GET AWAY WITH NOT HAVING TO PUT ONE ON IF IT'S A CIRCULAR BREAK AND YOU'RE CLAMPING THEM.

BUT WE ALWAYS SIDE ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION THAT WAY.

THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THEM, A LOT OF THEM WERE PUT ON DUE TO THE NEW WATER MAIN BEING INSTALLED ON PINE AND POPLAR AND THEN THE VERY END OF VALLEY AND HEMLOCK, TOO, AS WELL.

SO A LOT OF THOSE TIMES WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING NEW LINES IN, YOU PUT IN A LOT OF THE ADVERSE

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SO WHILE THEY PRESSURIZE THE NEW LINES AND GET THAT READY, THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE COMING FROM. THERE'LL BE THE ODD ONE, I BELIEVE, THAT PICKED UP A TOTAL COLIFORM, WHICH LOTS OF TIMES COULD BE A SAMPLING ERROR OR ANYTHING.

BUT JUST SO EVERYBODY AT HOME REALIZES THESE THINGS ARE SAMPLES ARE SENT BACK RIGHT AWAY AND EVERYTHING'S CLEARED. SO THERE'S NO PROBLEMS IN THE SYSTEM AFTER THAT.

THIS ALSO HELPS US WITH FUTURE PROJECTS TO KNOW IF THERE IS ANY PROBLEM AREAS OUT THERE SO WE CAN DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS CORRECTLY.

BUT BASICALLY, IN SUMMARY, THE REPORT PROVIDES EVIDENCE AND ASSURANCES TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THAT IS, AS OFFICERS OF THE CORPORATION COUNCIL IS EXERCISING THE PRESCRIBED STANDARD OF CARE WITH RESPECT TO THE OPERATIONS OF THE WATER TREATMENT SYSTEM.

RECEIVING THIS REPORT WILL ENSURE THE MUNICIPALITY'S COMPLIANCE WITH REGARD TO PRESCRIBED LEGISLATION UNDER THE SAFE DRINKING WATER ACT.

SO IN TERMS OF EVERYTHING FOR EVERYBODY AT HOME, EVERYTHING IS RUNNING SMOOTHLY WITH THE WATER PLANT AND THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.

SO THERE'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH.

BUT THIS IS TO LET THEM KNOW EVERYTHING'S ALL GOOD AND WILL BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND IN COPIES AND PAPER IF ANYBODY NEEDS THEM AT THE WATER PLANT OR REQUEST.

THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH. DEFINITELY A CLEAN, CONCISE REPORT AND AM I TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE ONLY BEEN UTILIZING 20 TO I THINK MAX WAS TWENTY TWO PERCENT OF THE ACTUAL WATER SYSTEMS CAPACITY THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE YEAR? YEAH, YOU'RE CORRECT ON THAT.

SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS ON THE CAPACITY OF WHAT WE'RE TAKING OUT A LOT OF TIMES FOR THE DAILY NUMBERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

YEAH, WE'RE WAY UNDERUTILIZED WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.

THERE MIGHT BE A TOTAL WHERE PEOPLE SEE A TOTAL IN THE LONG RUN, BUT THAT'LL BE DUE TO SOMETIMES THE WARM TEMPERATURES OR PEOPLE RUNNING WATER FOR FOR THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T WANT FREEZING ON THE COLDER WINTERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO THOSE ARE REASONS.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, WE'RE UNDERUTILIZING AS IN THE MAX ALLOWABLE.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? OK, SEEING NONE.

MOTION HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED, I CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED, THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH. OK, SO SIX POINT TWO, COMBINED WITH FOURTEEN POINT ONE.

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HANDLE THIS ONE, MR. GAGNON? I SUPPOSE WE CAN JUST HAVE AN OPEN ENDED CONVERSATION ABOUT BOTH THE ARENA ICE ISSUE AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY MOTION, I GUESS, TO GET IT ON THE FLOOR, RIGHT. SO MAYBE MY LONGER WINDED MOTION, WHICH COVERS INDOOR REC FACILITIES, AND THEN IF NEEDED, WE CAN ADD A LITTLE ICE FLAVORING TO THAT MOTION, MIGHT BE THE MOST PRAGMATIC, UNLESS THE CLERK OR THE CHAIR HAS ANY INPUT ON IT.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SUGGEST THAT FOURTEEN POINT ONE BECOMES SIX POINT TWO, AND THEN IF THERE'S ANYTHING NEEDED WITH MR. HALLOCH'S REPORT, WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD THAT INTO THE MOTION.

THANK YOU. THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER DATED FEBRUARY EIGHT, TWENTY TWENTY ONE BE RECEIVED, AND THAT GIVEN THE INCREASE IN LOCAL AND REGIONAL REPORTED CASE OF COVID-19 LINKED TO COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION, ALMOST ALL OUTDOOR FACILITIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING, BE CLOSED IMMEDIATELY.

SHERIFF CREEK PARKING LOT, MINERS MEMORIAL PARKING LOT, KIWANIS AND PARSONS PARK, OUTDOOR SKATING RINKS, THAT ALL INDOOR RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND SERVICES REMAIN CLOSED AND THAT THESE CLOSURES BE REVISITED AT THE FEBRUARY TWENTY SECOND REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OR SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING CALLED FOR THE SAME PURPOSE.

WHICHEVER COMES FIRST.

MOVER, PLEASE. MOVED BY COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

SECONDER? COUNCILOR MANN.

OK. MR. GAGNON, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS ONE OR MR. HALLOCH? MAYBE I'LL JUST SPEAK BROADLY AND THEN MR. HALLOCH CAN KIND OF FILL IN THE BLANKS WHEN IT COMES TO THE ICE, THE ARENA ISSUE, WHICH WAS UNDERLINED BEFORE THIS.

BUT WHEN MR. HALLOCH WROTE HIS REPORT, WE SUSPECTED THAT WE WOULD BE HAVING SOME KIND OF NEWS ANNOUNCEMENT FROM PREMIER FORD TODAY AND WE DID GET THAT.

BUT REGARDLESS OF THE [INAUDIBLE] GOVERNMENT, WHAT WE HAVE, WE KNOW IS FIVE TO SEVEN ACTIVE CASES IN THE VERY RECENT PAST IN ELLIOTT LAKE, AND AREA MORE CASES IN BLIND RIVER, WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO HOME.

WE HAD A VERY GOOD RUN THERE IN 2020.

IN FACT, THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE PANDEMIC WHERE WE HAD NO ACTUAL REPORTED CASES, AND JUST

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AND THE FACT THAT THEY KEEP COMING SHOULD BE TROUBLING SOME AND IT CLEARLY IS TO SOME.

SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE THE COUNCIL MEETING WE ALREADY HAD.

WE THOUGHT WE WOULD MAKE THE MOTION THAT'S IN FRONT OF COUNCIL TO SAY PERHAPS THE MUNICIPALITY SHOULD DISCOURAGE OUTDOOR GATHERINGS, EVEN FOR EXERCISE.

WE UNDERSTAND MENTAL HEALTH, BUT WE, BY PROVIDING THESE OUTDOOR RECREATION FACILITIES, WERE ENCOURAGING GATHERINGS.

WE MAY WANT TO SIMPLY JUST SAY, IF YOU NEED EXERCISE, WALK AROUND THE BLOCK OR GO FARTHER AFIELD. WE DON'T WANT TO BE ENCOURAGING THOSE TYPES OF GATHERINGS.

THAT'S AN APPROACH COUNCIL MEMBER MAY WISH TO TAKE.

WE'VE SEEN IT DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE THE EMERGENCY ORDERS WITH OUR BYLAW OFFICERS.

IT MIGHT BE MORE PRAGMATIC TO SIMPLY CLOSE OFF THOSE THOSE GATHERING POINTS.

OTHERWISE, WE'RE CONCERNED THAT THOSE THAT COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION IS CONTINUING TO SPREAD. SO WE BASICALLY HAVE A LEVEL OF SERVICE ISSUE FOR COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN ON, TO LET US KNOW WHETHER WE SHOULD STILL BE DELIVERING THESE SERVICES THAT COULD ENCOURAGE TRANSMISSION OF THE COLD.

I THINK THERE'S A MISCONCEPTION THAT IF YOU'RE OUTDOORS, YOU'RE SAFE.

WE'VE SEEN FROM PUBLIC HEALTH THAT THERE IS EVIDENCE, NOT NECESSARILY IN ELLIOT LAKE CASES, BUT THAT THERE IS EVIDENCE OF COVID TRANSMISSION, EVEN OUTDOORS.

THERE'S TALK ABOUT REQUIRING OR AT LEAST RECOMMENDING MASKS OUTDOORS.

SO, AGAIN, IN A NUTSHELL, LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION AS TO WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING WHEN IT COMES TO OUR OUTDOOR AND OUR INDOOR FACILITIES, SHOULD WE BE PUTTING THE ICE IN REGARDLESS? AND SO WE STRUCTURED THIS WAY IN THE SENSE THAT PREMIER FORD'S ANNOUNCEMENT SAYS THE STAY AT HOME ORDER WAS IN PLACE UNTIL, I BELIEVE, NEXT TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY.

SO WE SHOULD NOT BE GATHERING OUTDOORS IN NON HOUSEHOLD UNITS.

SO IT MIGHT BE BEST TO SIMPLY CLOSE THOSE FACILITIES AND THEN REVISIT THINGS ON A WEEKLY OR BIWEEKLY BASIS.

WE HAVE WE HAVE A STANDING ITEM FOR THE ARTS HUB AND THE SPORTS HUB.

WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE A STANDING ITEM FOR COVID, AND BASICALLY EVERY TWO WEEKS CHECK WITH COUNCIL AS TO WHETHER WE SHOULD BE OPENING, CLOSING.

WHAT'S THE RATIONALE? AND THEN, OF COURSE, MR. HALLOCH'S REPORT IS WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE ICE? WE HAD TO TEST THE COMPRESSOR AND THE CHILLER AND GET THE ICE IN.

BUT HOW LONG DO WE MAINTAIN THAT ICE? A CONSIDERABLE EXPENSE IF WE'RE DISCOURAGING INDOOR GATHERING AND WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS WE GO FORWARD.

SO THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL, SUBJECT TO ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL MAY HAVE OR IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM MR. HALLOCH ON THE DETAILS OF THE ICE.

OK, THANK YOU, MR. GAGNON. I UNDERSTAND THAT BYLAWS OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS HAS BEEN DOING THE BEST THEY CAN TO EDUCATE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AS FAR AS GATHERINGS IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT AREAS, AND I DO UNDERSTAND EVERYONE'S GETTING CABIN FEVER, WANTS TO SPEND A BIT OF TIME OUTDOORS, WHETHER IT'S GOING FOR A WALK OR HIKES.

BUT IT SEEMS THAT QUITE A FEW PEOPLE CANNOT RESIST, YOU KNOW, STOPPING AND CHATTING WITH OTHER GROUPS OF PEOPLE OR GETTING TOGETHER IN LARGER AND LARGER GROUPS, UNFORTUNATELY.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ICE.

JUST MR. HALLOCH, SAY WE TELL YOU, THE CHILLER WORKS, LET THE ICE GO, WOULD IT BE MORE COSTLY, SAY, IN A MONTH FROM NOW TO PUT NEW ICE DOWN, OR WOULD IT BE MORE FEASIBLE TO LEAVE THE ICE IN AND WAIT FOR THAT TIME PERIOD? WHAT'S WHAT'S A MORE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE WAY TO GO ABOUT THE SITUATION? OK, SO TO GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND GIST OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS, YEAH, WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING THE CHILLER AND THE COMPRESSOR OF COURSE FOR WARRANTY REASONS AND TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S WORKING PROPERLY AFTER THE INSTALL OF THE NEW ONE.

SO RIGHT NOW, WE'VE ONLY MADE FLOODED THE ICE TO A POINT WHERE WE'VE LEFT IT.

IT'S RUNNING. WE WERE GOING TO LEAVE IT RUNNING THIS LONG ANYWAYS AND WAIT FOR A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION ANYWAYS TO COME DOWN.

BUT BASICALLY, WE'RE AT THIS STAGE RIGHT NOW WHERE THE THUMBS WERE GIVEN.

WE COULD GO AHEAD AND PUT THE WHITEWASH ON AND RUN IT.

AND IF IT'S NOT AT THIS POINT, WE DECIDE TO TAKE THE ICE OUT.

SO IT'LL PROBABLY TAKE ABOUT A WEEK TO PUT IT IN WITH TEMPERATURES LIKE THIS OUTSIDE WHERE IT'S NOT LIKE AUGUST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A WEEK TO START FROM SCRATCH AGAIN. SO WE HAVEN'T WE'VE JUST LEFT IT AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW RUNNING IT WHERE WHERE YOU'RE ACTUALLY LIKE I SAID, IF WE DID DECIDE, WE COULD ADD THE PAINT AND MOVE FROM THERE. JUST TO PUT THINGS INTO PERSPECTIVE, LAST YEAR BY NOT RUNNING THE NOT HAVING THE ICE IN FOR FOUR MONTHS OF THE YEAR, THE MAINTENANCE BUDGET WAS, I BELIEVE, ONE HUNDRED

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OH, NO, SORRY. IT WAS LIKE AROUND THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND.

WE ENDED UP SAVING ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX THOUSAND AND FORTY FIVE THOUSAND WAS ON HYDRO. SO BUT THEN AGAIN IN REVENUE WE LOST ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND REVENUE FOR NOT HAVING ANYBODY IN. SO IT ALMOST BREAKS ITSELF OUT EVEN WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT.

BUT OVERALL, HONESTLY, WE COULD TAKE THE ICE OUT AND WAIT FOR DIRECTION AND PUT IT BACK IN. THERE HAS BEEN SOME STAKEHOLDERS OR USERS OF THE ICE THAT HAVE ASKED US IF WE CAN LEAVE IT, LEAVE IT ON TILL THE END OF MAY, AND THEN IF IT DID COME DOWN TO IT, THE SEASON WOULDN'T HAVE TO START. NORMALLY AT THE BEGINNING OF AUGUST, THEY COULD DELAY THAT TO TWO OR THREE WEEKS AS THEY DECIDED TO SCHEDULE, LIKE IF EVERYTHING'S ALL GOOD IN SEPTEMBER, SAVES US TWO OR THREE WEEKS OF HAVING IT IN AUGUST.

JUST SO JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE OF ALL THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH, COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

I THINK IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC THAT WE WERE VERY BRAVE AND WE TOOK BIG STEPS AHEAD OF A LOT OF THE PROVINCE AND AHEAD OF OTHER COMMUNITIES SO THAT WE COULD STAY SAFE FOR THOSE EIGHT MONTHS AND KEEP COVID AT BAY.

AND IT HAS ARRIVED.

AND COVID DOESN'T TRAVEL, BUT PEOPLE BRING COVID.

THAT'S A YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T FLY THROUGH THE AIR FROM ONE COMMUNITY TO ANOTHER, IT IS HERE BECAUSE SOMEONE BROUGHT IT HERE.

AND I THINK THAT WE'RE AT A VERY DANGEROUS POINT NOW TO LOOSEN UP THE REINS OR TO USE THE FEEDBACK WE'RE GETTING FROM PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE BORED AND THEY NEED SOMETHING TO DO TO PUSH US TO MAKE A DECISION THAT COULD BE CATASTROPHIC FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK WE NEED TO HUNKER DOWN FOR TWO MORE WEEKS.

I THINK WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO STAY AT HOME.

WE STILL HAVE A STAY AT HOME ORDER.

EVENTUALLY, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, DEPENDING ON WHAT ZONE WE END UP IN, WE STILL THEY STILL HAVE TO REZONE US ALL.

WE WERE IN GREEN, I DOUBT VERY MUCH IF WE'LL BE IN GREEN WHEN THE COLORS COME DOWN NEXT WEEK, I BELIEVE IT IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME DOWN.

IT'S VERY CONFUSING MESSAGES FROM THE PREMIER TODAY AND FROM THE MINISTER ELLIOT, BECAUSE THEY WERE TALKING IN MORE GENERALIZATIONS THAN THEY WERE IN AREAS.

THEY BROUGHT UP THE VARIANT THAT'S IN SUDBURY IN NORTH BAY, THE MOST DEADLY VARIANT THEY THINK IS NOW IN TORONTO.

SO I JUST THINK THAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY, FOR OUR OUR VULNERABLE COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR OUR ESSENTIAL WORKERS, AND THAT INCLUDES THE PEOPLE IN THE GROCERY STORES AND THE PEOPLE IN THE GAS STATION AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING IN HEALTH CARE THAT WE NEED TO JUST STAY AS LOCKED DOWN AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO STAY AT HOME. SO I'M REALLY IN FAVOR OF.

NOT OPENING, NOT JUST LET THE ICE GO FOR NOW, IF WE GET TO A POINT IN A MONTH FROM NOW WHERE IT'S SAFE TO DO SO, THEN WE CAN DO SO.

BUT I THINK THAT ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO BE OUTSIDE DOING THINGS TOGETHER IS NOT WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. SO I'D BE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING EVERYTHING THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN UP FOR TWO WEEKS UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, AND THEN WE CAN REASSESS IF SOME MIRACLE HAPPENS BETWEEN. BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CASES REPORTED TODAY THAT'S 14 DAYS OF QUARANTINE THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH. SO I JUST THINK WE JUST NEED TO KEEP OUR BIG GIRL AND BOY PANTS ON AND KEEP MAKING THE RIGHT DECISIONS AND THE RIGHT TO.

THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

COUNCILOR MANN. THANK YOU, WORSHIP.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANY OF THE COMMENTS OF COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

CLEARLY, THERE IS COMMUNITY SPIRIT THAT'S QUITE EVIDENT BASED ON THE NUMBERS OF THE PAST WEEK. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE IS A DELAY IN TESTING AND RESPONSE TIME FROM THOSE TESTS.

SO THAT GETS US FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY.

I WAS REALLY HOPING THAT FOR OUR SPECIFIC COMMUNITY, WE'VE BEEN DOING QUITE WELL.

WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE WE HAD CASES VERY EARLY ON LAST YEAR AND THEN WE'VE BEEN DOING REALLY GOOD AS A REGION.

ACTUALLY, THE WHOLE DISTRICT HAS BEEN DOING QUITE WELL WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS BASED ON THE BALANCE OF THE PROVINCE.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE NUMBERS MOST RECENTLY IN ELLIOT LAKE, I'M CHALLENGED IN ALLOWING THINGS TO REMAIN OPEN AS WELL BECAUSE OF THE VULNERABLE SECTOR OF OUR POPULATION.

AND I THINK I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT AGAIN BECAUSE OF THAT SPREAD.

SO AT THIS POINT, I GUESS I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH MAKING A DECISION ABOUT SOME OF OUR FACILITIES AND THE ICE.

AS MR. HALLOCH SAID, IF WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THE ICE LATER ON, SO BE IT.

I THINK, AGAIN, THE RESOLUTION TONIGHT TALKS ABOUT REVISITING THIS ON A BI WEEKLY BASIS.

I THINK THAT SEEMS REASONABLE BECAUSE HONESTLY, THE PACE OF INFORMATION AND THE PACE OF

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WE CAN GET A DIRECTIVE FROM APH TODAY.

IT COULD CHANGE TOMORROW, COULD CHANGE TOMORROW MORNING, LIKE IT'S THAT QUICK.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE VACCINE FOR THOSE VULNERABLE PEOPLE, IT IS SLOWER THAN WAS EXPECTED. AND AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN.

SO AT THIS POINT, I WILL SUPPORT A CLOSURE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AS DIRECTED IN THE RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COUNCILOR TURNER, COUNCILOR CYR? NO. OK, I AGREE WITH THE MAJORITY OF COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY BOTH MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, WE STARTED OFF A YEAR AGO WITH TWO CASES PRETTY QUICK, AND WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP ELLIOT LAKE AND THE MAJORITY OF THE DISTRICT.

CLEAN AND CLEAR SAILING.

IT'S BEEN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, THE REPORTED CASES JUST KEEP COMING IN, COMING IN, AND IT'S NOT JUST THE DISTRICT, IT'S ELLIOT LAKE.

AND ONCE YOU START SEEING THAT, IT'S COMMUNAL, MEANING THAT INDIVIDUALS AREN'T SURE WHERE THEY GOT IT FROM, WASN'T FROM CONTACT, IT WASN'T FROM TRAVEL.

THAT'S WHERE IT STARTS GETTING MORE CONCERNING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE VULNERABLE SECTOR THAT WE SEE ON A REGULAR BASIS.

I'M VERY THANKFUL TO MS. ROB AND MS. [INAUDIBLE] DOWN IN APH WITH THEIR VERY, VERY CLEAR MESSAGING TO US ON A DAILY BASIS.

I'M QUITE HAPPY WITH THAT.

BUT THAT CLEAR MESSAGING THAT COMES ON A DAILY AND WHEN WE HAVE NEW CASES IS SCARY TO SEE, ESPECIALLY AGAIN WHEN YOU HEAR THAT INDIVIDUALS AREN'T SURE WHERE THEY GOT THE VIRUS FROM. SO WITH THAT, I'M ALSO IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THINGS LOCKED DOWN UNTIL WE SEE A COUPLE OF WEEKS OF NO NEW CASES WOULD BE WOULD BE NICE FOR OUR COMMUNITY SPECIFICALLY.

AS FAR AS THE COLOR CODED COUNCILOR FINAMORE YOU HAD MENTIONED, I KNOW WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS A COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK, THEY LOOKED AT THE DISTRICT POPULATION OF AROUND ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN THOUSAND.

AND THEN THE MAGIC NUMBER THAT PUT US IN A BAD PLACE WAS 10 INDIVIDUALS.

SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE MORE THAN THAT IN THE DISTRICT RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'RE NOT IN A GOOD PLACE WITH THE COLOR CODING SYSTEM RIGHT NOW.

SO I HOPE PEOPLE AT HOME ARE WATCHING AND LISTENING TO THAT MESSAGE.

WE NEED TO BUNKER DOWN.

WE NEED TO STAY VIGILANT.

SO I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS ONE.

CALL] THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH, MR. GAGNON. SIX POINT THREE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, UNIVERSAL BROADBAND FUNDOPLICATION AND ITS IMPACT ON H&M COFI APPLICATION RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DATED FEBRUARY 5TH TWENTY TWENTY ONE BE RECEIVED.

MOVER, PLEASE. MOVED BY COUNCILOR TURNER, SECOND, BY COUNCILOR MANN.

GOOD EVENING, MISS SCOT.

HOW ARE YOU? I'M JUST FINE, THANK YOU.

SHOULD I PROCEED? YES, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. BACK IN JANUARY 29TH, WE CAME TO COUNCIL AND PASSED A RESOLUTION TO ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH LLOYD RESEARCH GROUP AND BEGIN DESIGNING A NETWORK, TWO OPTIONS FOR A NETWORK DESIGNED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE WIRELESS COTTAGE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

OUT OF THAT PRELIMINARY THAT WE HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY NUMBERS FROM THAT AND WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS. BUT THE REASON WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, AND I THINK I SHOULD START WITH THAT, IS THAT WE'VE ALSO BEEN APPROACHED BACK IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR BY H&M COFI TO SUPPORT THEIR PROJECT. WHICH IS HERE ON MANITOULIN COMMUNITY OWNED FIBER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT, WHICH WOULD LAY FIBER FROM [INAUDIBLE] TO NAIRN CENTER AND UP THROUGH ELLIOTT LAKE.

SO THEY'VE CONTACTED US SINCE WE HAVE STARTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LLOYD RESEARCH GROUP AND OUR INTEREST IN APPLYING FOR THE FUNDING.

FROM LLOYD, WE'VE COME UP WITH A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.

ONE WOULD BE TO DO A WIRELESS IMPROVEMENT.

SO WE HAVE A WIRELESS SITUATION NOW, SO WE WOULD ADD A FEW TOWERS, WE WOULD UPGRADE SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT AND OUR GOAL WILL BE TO OFFER FIFTY TEN TO THE COTTAGE LOT AREA.

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CONTINUE TO USE SOME OF THE WIRELESS FOR THE WATER ACCESS SIDE AND.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO PROJECTS IS THE FIRST ONE, THE WIRELESS IS ABOUT SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

AND THE CITY'S PORTION OF THAT WOULD BE ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND.

IF WE WENT WITH THE HYBRID FIBER, WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROJECT OF TWO MILLION, SIX HUNDRED AND TWENTY ONE THOUSAND.

THE CITY'S PORTION WOULD BE SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO THE UBF FUNDING IS SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT DOLLARS.

AND THE PROJECT THAT THE H&M COFI IS APPLYING FOR IN THE UBF IS A ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.

SO WHAT WE WERE HOPING TO DISCUSS WITH COUNCIL THIS EVENING WAS OUR OPTIONS ON THIS, AS THE H&M COFI GROUP HAVE ASKED US TO STEP DOWN.

THEY ARE CONCERNED THAT IF WE BOTH MAKE APPLICATION TO THE UBF FUNDING, THAT BOTH PROJECTS WILL NOT BE APPROVED.

SO TONIGHT, WHAT I'M BRINGING FORWARD WITH YOU IS A COUPLE OF OPTIONS, ONE, IS WE CONTINUE GOING WITH THE LLOYD RESEARCH CONSULTING GROUP, WE ALLOW THEM TO BRING BACK AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH I BELIEVE IS FEBRUARY TWENTY SECOND, THEY WILL BRING US AN UPDATED NETWORK DESIGN, SHOW YOU BOTH OPTIONS AS COUNCIL CAN DECIDE.

AND WE PUT IN THE APPLICATION.

I SHOULD MAKE NOTE THAT AS OF FRIDAY, LAST FRIDAY, THE GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED THAT THEY HAD PUT AN EXTENSION ON THE UBF FUNDING TO MARCH 15TH.

ORIGINALLY, IT WAS DUE THIS FRIDAY.

SO ON FEBRUARY 22ND, LLOYD CAN COME BACK, WE CAN SHOW YOU THE TWO OPTIONS, YOU CAN DISCUSS THE COSTS AND THE IMPLICATIONS, AND WE APPLY FOR THE UBF FUNDING.

AT THIS POINT, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE WIRELESS OPTION.

SECOND IS TO CONTINUE WITH LLOYD, ALLOW THEM TO COMPLETE THE RESEARCH THAT THEY'RE DOING NOW, BRING US BACK THE REPORT.

BUT WE DON'T ACTUALLY APPLY FOR THE FUNDING.

WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT H&M COFI, AND THEY MAY COME TO US FOR FUNDING AS WELL TOWARDS THEIR PROJECT AND THAT WE USE THE LLOYD RESEARCH REPORT.

SHOULD THE H&M COFI NOT RECEIVE FUNDING, WE WOULD BE READY TO GO WITH AND WHENEVER WE ACTUALLY FIND NEW FUNDING BECAUSE WE'VE MISSED THE UBF.

THE THIRD IS TO JUST STAND DOWN WITH THE CURRENT PROJECT AND TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE H&M COFI RECEIVES IN APPROVAL ON THE UBF.

SO, THE FIRST OPTION IS THE ONE THAT, IN CONSULTATION WITH DIFFERENT CITY STAFF, IS THE ONE THAT WE BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO BE RECOMMENDING, IT'S A SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLAR PROJECT.

IT WILL BRING OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR, TO BRING THOSE RESIDENTS UP TO THE 50 10.

AND THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND COMING FROM RESERVES.

THE SECOND OPTION WAS STILL PAY FOR THE REPORT FROM LLOYD RESEARCH AND POSSIBLY ANY CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE H&M COFI AND WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE YET.

AND THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE TO JUST SIT BACK AND WAIT, ESSENTIALLY KNOWING THAT WE WOULD BE CONTRIBUTING TO THE COFI PROJECT AT SOME POINT AS A PARTNER IN THEIR PROJECT.

SO I'M LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION OR DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AS TO WHICH OPTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. MR. GAGNON, YOU HAD A PIECE TO ADD? I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT'S IN FRONT OF COUNCIL IS SIMPLY TO RECEIVE THAT REPORT, BUT BY DOING THAT THIS EVENING, YOU'RE KIND OF KEEPING US IN THE QUEUE FOR OPTION ONE, WHICH IS STATUS QUO. WE ALREADY HAD COUNCIL'S MANDATE TO HIRE LLOYD AND TO APPLY TO THE UBF.

NOW WE HAVE UNTIL MARCH 15.

SO I HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.

BUT UNLESS WE DO NOTHING, WE JUST SIMPLE RECEIVED A REPORT, IT BASICALLY MEANS WE ROLL WITH STATUS QUO, WHICH IS WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING.

WE WANT TO BE DEFERENTIAL TO OUR NEIGHBORS.

WE SUPPORT THEIR RATHER LARGE PROJECT OF ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS OF FIBER MANITOULIN FROM MAIRN TO [INAUDIBLE].

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AND WHERE WE DISAGREE IS THAT OUR SMALL APPLICATION, WE'RE ASSUMING COUNCIL IS GOING TO EVENTUALLY GO WITH THE SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR SOLUTION THAT IS FOR EXISTING CLIENTS IN AN EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE ALREADY FEEL THE NEED TO MEET THOSE DEMANDS.

H&M COFI IS A NEW BUILD, RATHER LARGE, AND WE FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THE FUNDER WON'T BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND WOULDN'T LET OUR SMALL PROJECT IMPACT THE LARGER ONE. EITHER THE LARGER ONE STANDS ON ITS OWN FEET AND IS WORTH FUNDING TO THAT RATHER LARGE SCALE, OR [INAUDIBLE] SO WE THINK BOTH PROJECTS ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

BOTH STILL HAVE A CHANCE AT SUCCESS.

OTHERWISE IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US TO LITERALLY STAND DOWN AN OPPORTUNITY THE BIRD IN HAND AND JUST SAY, OKAY, WELL, WE'LL SEE HOW THIS LARGER PROJECT PLAYS OUT.

IT'S AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION TO PUT COUNCIL IN, BUT IT'S JUST THE WAY THE FUNDING ROLLED OUT AND THE SIZE THE SHEER DIFFERENCES BETWEEN OUR PROJECTS EXISTING VERSUS NEW, RATHER LARGE, REGIONAL, SMALLER, TIGHT KNIT EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO JUST WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT TO LET COUNCIL KNOW THAT IF THEY DO NOTHING, IT BASICALLY LEAVES US IN THE STATUS QUO, WHICH IS WE CONTINUE GOING DOWN THAT ROAD. BUT YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE AT THE FEBRUARY 22ND MEETING TO SEE THE MORE DETAIL AS TO THE FIBER TWO POINT FIVE DOLLARS MILLION OR THE SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR WIRELESS SOLUTION. THANK YOU, MR. GAGNON. YOU ESSENTIALLY ANSWERED QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO ASK, ALTHOUGH I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE LARGER PROJECT THAT'S BEEN PUT FORWARD BY H&M FOR SURE, THAT MAY TAKE YEARS TO COME ABOUT. THEY MAY NOT GET FUNDING FOR IT, WHICH WOULD TAKE LONGER.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A VERY, VERY SMALL CHUNK TO TAKE CARE OF EXISTING CUSTOMERS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND UPGRADE THE SYSTEMS THAT WE ALREADY OWN.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO AFFECT THEIR LARGER SCALE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT BY ASKING FOR ESSENTIALLY FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR UPGRADING OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. I HAVE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNCILOR CYR, AND THEN COUNCILOR MANN.

COUNCILOR CYR, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. MY ONE QUESTION IS HAS STAFF LOOKED INTO OTHER OPTIONS WHERE THE COST IS TRANSFERRED TO THE USER FOR A MODEST COST LIKE SPACEX, WHICH OWNS STARLINK, HAS OVER A THOUSAND SATELLITES IN ORBIT.

NOW THEY PLAN ON HAVING FORTY TWO THOUSAND SATELLITES IN ORBIT.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT NETWORK IS GOING TO HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT ON EVERYTHING AROUND.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SOLUTION.

I'M JUST SAYING, HAS ANYBODY LOOKED INTO THAT AT ALL? OR LIKE IT'S JUST A QUESTION I'M PUTTING OUT THERE SO THAT WE'RE NOT GOING IN BLIND AND THEN IMPACTED IN A COUPLE OF YEARS OR EVEN [INAUDIBLE] THEY'RE OFFERING SERVICE IN ELLIOT LAKE NOW. SO WE MAY BE IMPACTED BY THEM WITHIN MONTHS.

I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT SERVICES LIKE THE SATELLITE SERVICE THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING. WE WERE TASKED WITH LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAVE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE CURRENT WIRELESS PROJECT THAT WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING SINCE THAT WE STARTED IN 2012.

WHAT DO WE NEED IN ORDER TO UPGRADE THAT, TO MEET TODAY'S STANDARDS? WHEN WE FIRST INSTALLED, THE STANDARDS WERE THREE ONE AND FIVE ONE.

I BELIEVE WE'RE NOW UP TO 50 10.

SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO BRING IT UP TO THOSE STANDARDS? AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAME UP WITH THE TWO DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS.

OTHER SERVICE PROVIDERS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, IF H&M COFI RUNS FIBER, THAT'S ALSO GOING TO BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RESIDENTS OUT AT THE COTTAGE LOTS TO HAVE CHOICE.

THOSE THINGS WILL CONTINUE.

WE WERE TASKED WITH LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO BRING THAT OUT. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

MR. GAGNON, YOU HAD SOMETHING TO ADD? JUST IN THE SENSE THAT WE HAVE A CONSIDERABLE NUMBER OF CLIENTS RIGHT NOW.

IF THAT TREND CONTINUES, OUR INVESTMENT OF OUR ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS WILL BE PAID BACK WITHIN THREE OR FOUR YEARS.

YES. IF THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WHOEVER COMES TO THE TABLE AND WE START TO LOSE SUBSCRIBERS BECAUSE OTHER SERVICES ARE THERE, WELL, GOOD.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO BE RUNNING THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE, IF WE CAN AVOID IT.

WE CAN STEP OUT OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR REALM, ALL THE BETTER.

BUT RIGHT NOW, THE STARLINK THING IS STILL IN THE BETA MODE.

AND THEY'RE NOT READY TO TAKE THE REINS OF ALL OF THOSE EXISTING CLIENTS THAT ARE OUT THERE NOW NEEDING SERVICE TODAY AND TOMORROW, HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE.

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AND THOSE OPTIONS ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE, ALSO, YOU HAVE COMPANIES LIKE XPLORNET THAT TAKE CARE OF RURAL AND REMOTE NORTH AMERICA ALL ACROSS NORTHERN CANADA.

AND I HAVE EASTLINK IN ONE HOME AND I ACTUALLY PREFER THE XPLORNET SATELLITE THAT I'M USING RIGHT NOW SEEMS TO BE CLEANER AND MORE RELIABLE ON A REGULAR BASIS.

SO THERE ARE THE OPTIONS THERE FOR ALL OUR HOMEOWNERS, DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY THEY WANT TO GO. BUT THIS IS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UPGRADING, CORRECT? YES. OK, THANK YOU.

COUNCILOR MANN? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

I THINK THOSE COMMENTS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT TO ME RIGHT NOW, THOUGH I DO APPRECIATE LOCAL PARTNERS IN THE REGION REQUESTING US TO ESSENTIALLY STAND DOWN AND NOT APPLY. MY CONCERN IS WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN AT THIS NOW WITH A PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR WITH OUR INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER FOR ALMOST NINE YEARS.

AND WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO UPGRADE AND BENEFIT THOSE AND HOPEFULLY MORE. MY CONCERN IS IF WE DID THEN STAND DOWN TO SUPPORT A LARGER GROUP, WHAT THEN? IF THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE THEIR THEIR FUNDING, WHICH IS, AGAIN, A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT.

IF THAT DID HAPPEN, WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR RESIDENTS WHO NOW ARE IMPACTED BECAUSE OF OUR LACK OF ACTION, THOUGH I DO RESPECT THE REQUEST OF OUR PARTNERS.

I THINK RIGHT NOW I WOULD BE MORE IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH FLOYD RESEARCH IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO I DON'T WANT TO STOP DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC, BUT WHEN IT COMES TIME, I WILL PUT A MOTION ON TO RECEIVE AND SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND AGAIN, BECAUSE THE DEADLINE HAS BEEN EXTENDED INTO MARCH, NOW WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME THAT WE CAN GET SOME FURTHER INFORMATION, ALLOW STAFF TO STILL WORK WITH THE CONSULTANTS AND THEN BRING MORE INFORMATION BACK.

SO I'D BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT MOVE THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES.

THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FINAMORE? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU TO MS. SCOT, THE MONEY THAT NEEDS TO BE SPENT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, UPGRADING AND MAINTAINING THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY HAVE.

SO IF WE WERE TO STAND DOWN AND WAIT AND WAIT FOR THE OTHER FUNDING TO COME THROUGH WITH WITH OUR PARTNERS, WOULD WE NOT STILL HAVE TO UPGRADE OUR CURRENT STUFF, OUR CURRENT NETWORK, WOULD WE STILL HAVE TO DO THAT WORK IN ADDITION TO THE HAVING THE NETWORK BROUGHT TO US? IF YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING.

YES SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVEN THOUGH IF WE STOOD DOWN, WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE FACED WITH THIS SAME SITUATION, LOOKING FOR MONEY TO DO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, TO BE ABLE TO USE WHAT THE PARTNERS ARE BRINGING IN TO THE COMMUNITY.

IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? THE PARTNERS ARE PLANNING TO BRING IN FIBER TO THE HOME.

THEIR PROJECT IDENTIFIES THAT THEY WANT TO PUT FIBER INTO EACH AND EVERY HOUSEHOLD WITHIN ELLIOT LAKE [INAUDIBLE] AND OUT AT THE COTTAGE LOT.

OUR PROJECT WHETHER WE GO HYBRID OR WIRELESS.

YES. WHETHER WE APPLY FOR THE UBF FUNDING.

WE ARE CONTINUOUSLY TRYING TO UPGRADE THAT EQUIPMENT.

BUT THIS WILL ALLOW US TO ACTUALLY BUILD ON IT.

SO WE'LL BE ADDING IF IT WENT WIRELESS, WE WOULD BE ADDING A FEW TOWERS SO WE CAN REACH MORE CUSTOMERS AND WE CAN PROVIDE THE SIGNAL STRENGTH THAT THEY REQUIRE IN ORDER TO GET FIFTY TEN AS OPPOSED TO FIVE ONE OR THREE ONE, WHICH MANY OF THEM HAVE NOW.

SO, YEAH, WE'D BE TRYING TO DO THIS ANYWAY, BUT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT ON THIS SCALE WITHOUT THE UBF FUNDING UNLESS THE CITY WANTED TO COME UP WITH THE SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, IT DOES, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE IN THE MEANTIME, THEY'RE A LONG WAY OUT FROM THEIR FUNDING ANYWAY.

AND IF AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY CAN BRING US IN THE NETWORK, WE STILL NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR IT.

SO EITHER WAY, WE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY.

AND I WOULD RATHER GO FOR FUNDING THAN SPEND IT ALL ON OUR OWN.

JUST TO ADD TO THAT, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY STARTED THIS PROJECT, IT WAS IDENTIFIED THEN THAT EVERY FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS EQUIPMENT WILL NEED TO BE UPGRADED AND CHANGED.

THANK YOU. MR. GAGNON, YOU HAD A POINT TO ADD? JUST A COUPLE OF SUBTLETIES.

TO BE CLEAR, BOTH PROJECTS, IF APPROVED, HAVE A VERY LONG TIME FRAME TO IMPLEMENT.

I THINK IT'S TWENTY TWENTY SEVEN TO SPEND THE UBF FUNDS.

SO THAT'S COMFORTING TO AN H&M COFI THAT THERE'S STILL A CHANCE THAT THERE'S LOTS OF TIME TO IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT.

OUR CONCERN IS THAT OUR PROJECT IS SO TIGHTLY SCALED IT WILL BE VASTLY EASIER TO

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WE DON'T KNOW WHERE ELLIOT LAKE'S GOING TO LAND ON THE REGION AND WHO GETS THE FIBER FIRST. THERE ARE TOO MANY UNKNOWNS ON THE H&M COFI, WHEREAS THERE ARE VASTLY FEWER UNKNOWNS IN OUR TIGHTER PROJECT THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ROLL OUT MUCH FASTER THAN A FIBER BUILD FROM [INAUDIBLE] AND NAIRN CENTER.

SO THERE IS A CHANCE THAT BOTH PROJECTS GET APPROVED AND THAT WE'VE BUILT THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN H&M COFI WANTS TO COME BY WITH FIBER.

BUT THERE'S STILL TOO MANY IFS TO GIVE US COMFORT.

AND ALSO, JUST TO BE CLEAR, OUR NEIGHBORS DIDN'T FORMALLY ASKED US TO STAND DOWN.

THEY JUST EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERN IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT'S QUITE CLEAR THAT THEY'RE WORRIED AND THAT THAT'S THE OTHER UNDERLYING CONCERN.

AND THAT'S WHY WE FELT COMPELLED TO GIVE COUNCIL A BRIEFING ON IT IN MORE DETAIL.

ALSO, WHEN WE THOUGHT THE FUNDING DEADLINE WAS THE 15TH OF FEBRUARY AND WE NEEDED TO HIT THE FEBRUARY 8TH MEETING, SO THEY DIDN'T FORMALLY ASKED US, BUT THEY ARE CONCERNED.

WE DON'T QUITE SHARE THE CONCERN, BUT WE WANTED COUNCIL TO BE FULLY BRIEFED TO GO IN EYES WIDE OPEN ON THIS PROJECT.

A FOLLOW UP, COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

THANK YOU. SO ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE NOT TELLING EVERYONE IN TOWN THAT WE WOULD PREFER TO WORK ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COTTAGE LOTS AT ALL AND ALL OUR NORTHERN CUSTOMERS ARE TAKEN CARE OF AND THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE FIBER TO EVERYONE'S HOUSEHOLD. WE WANT BOTH.

WE JUST WANT WE JUST WANT TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THIS FIRST WHILE WE'RE WAITING TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE OTHER, BECAUSE BOTH ARE POSSIBLE.

RIGHT. YEAH.

THAT'S CORRECT, AND THE BEST CASE SCENARIO IS WE BUILT THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, WE PROVIDE THE SERVICE AND THEN FIBER COMES ALONG AND OUR INVESTMENT IS NO LONGER NECESSARY OR WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING ELSE TO DO WITH THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE ARE A LOT OF IFS ON THAT.

IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THAT.

ON H&M COFI PROJECT.

EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE BRINGING FIBER TO EACH OF THE HOMES, THERE WILL BE INSTANCES IN AREAS WHERE THEY WOULD BE RELYING ON A WIRELESS INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL, UNLESS THEY RAN FIBER UNDER THE LAKE ACROSS TO THE DUNLOP SHORES, WATER ACCESS ONLY LOTS.

SO THERE THERE'S STILL POTENTIAL FOR THEM, THEIR PROJECT TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THE WIRELESS TECHNOLOGIES.

THEIR PROJECT IS DIFFERENT THAN OURS AS WELL IN TERMS OF OURS IS AN EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE OPERATING.

WE HAVE EVERYTHING [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE PROVIDING INTERNET TO THOSE PEOPLE NOW.

THE ISP HAS BEEN DETERMINED, ALL THOSE THINGS.

THE H&M COFI ONE IS A PROJECT WHERE IT RUNS THE FIBER.

BUT ONCE THE FIBER IS RUN, THEN IT OPENS IT UP FOR ANY ISP THAT WANTS TO RENT ON THEIR [INAUDIBLE] AND THEN THAT GETS DISTRIBUTED.

SO THEY'RE FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

AND THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE WE'RE NOT GOING TO IMPACT THEIR ABILITY TO APPLY FOR THE FUNDING. THANK YOU.

COUNCILOR TURNER. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

JUST FOR SOME CLARITY, [INAUDIBLE] THE UNINITIATED, WHICH IN THIS CASE SEEMS TO BE ME, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT 50 10 IS REFERRING TO.

IS THAT UPLOAD AND DOWNLOAD? YES, I'M SORRY. YES, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY WHAT IT IS.

AND IN TOWN IN ELLIOT LAKE, THE AVERAGE WOULD BE WHAT?.

DEPENDING ON WHICH PACKAGE YOU GOT FROM ELLIOT LAKE, BUT YOU CAN GET UP TO ONE HUNDRED WITHIN TOWN RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN ON THE APPLICATION FOR THE UBF, IS THAT YOU HAVE TO SHOW WHERE YOU'RE UNDERSERVED, SERVED.

AND WILL THE CITY [INAUDIBLE] TRULY BE IDENTIFIED AS UNDERSERVED? SO RECOGNIZING THAT CONNECTION TO THE INTERNET IS PRETTY MUCH A NECESSITY THESE DAYS, OUT ON THE LAKES NORTH OF THE CITY, YOU SAY THEY'RE DEALING WITH FIVE AND ONE.

YEAH, THERE'S THAT'S THE AVERAGE IS FIVE AND ONE, THERE'S A FEW THAT ARE GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE, THERE'S A FEW THAT ARE GETTING A LITTLE BIT LESS.

IT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOUR PROPERTY IS LOCATED, WHETHER OR NOT THE FOLIAGE IS AN ISSUE FOR YOU AND THE TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT'S IN YOUR HOME SOME ARE ON A NINE HUNDRED MEGAHERTZ SPECTRUM, SOMEWHERE ON THE TWO POINT FOUR.

AND EACH OF THOSE PROVIDES DIFFERENT TYPES OF SPEEDS.

BUT SOMETIMES YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.

THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT YOU CAN USE THE NINE HUNDRED MEGAHERTZ SPECTRUM BECAUSE IT CAN GO THROUGH THE TREES WHERE THE TWO POINT FOUR DOESN'T.

RIGHT. SO COMPARATIVELY, TO WHAT'S IN TOWN, THEY CAN PRACTICALLY HEAR THE DIAL SPINNING EVERY TIME THEY CONNECT.

[LAUGHTER] WELL, MOST CAN PROBABLY DO A LITTLE NETFLIX AND WHATNOT.

EVERY HOUSEHOLD IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT JUST ON YOUR PLACEMENT EITHER, YOU KNOW, ON A

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BUT THE PROJECT ALSO ALLOWS TO FILL IN SOME OF THE GAP AREAS WHERE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T PROVIDE THEM WITH INTERNET.

OK. AND, YOU KNOW, I DO WANT TO SUPPORT THE WORK OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND THE LARGE PROJECTS ACROSS HERE ON THE SHORES AND THE MANITOULIN, IF I UNDERSTAND THAT PROJECT TWO POINT SIX TWO MILLION, IS THAT THE DEDICATED SHARE THAT WE HAVE TO SERVICE ELLIOT LAKE OUT OF THAT PROJECT OR THE COST FOR ELLIOT LAKE? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION PROJECT BY H&M COFI? REFERRED TO FIBER TO ALL HOUSES IN ELLIOT LAKE COMING IN AT TWO POINT SIX TWO MILLION AND SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND WOULD BE OUR SHARE.

OH, THAT'S AN OPTION.

THAT'S ONE OF THE TWO NETWORK DESIGN OPTIONS THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH H&M COFI.

IF WE WERE TO RUN FIBER AT THE COTTAGE LOT AREA DOWN STANROCK ROAD, DOWN DUNLOP SHORES ROAD, SOUTH BAY ROAD. THE COST OF THAT FIBER PROJECT IS THE TWO POINT TWO SIX SIX HUNDRED AND [INAUDIBLE] THOUSAND OF THAT WOULD BE THE CITIES PORTION OF THAT.

IF WE DIDN'T RUN FIBER AND WE WENT WITH THE SECOND SOLUTION.

WHICH IS THE ONE WE'RE RECOMMENDING, WHICH IS WIRELESS, WHERE WIRELESS.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND ON THE WIRELESS.

THAT'S THE ONE WHERE WE'VE COME IN FOR THAT COST TO THE CITY AT ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY TWO. OK, AND THANK YOU, JUST THE LAST QUESTION, THE TIMING FOR WORKING WIRELESS FOR THE AREA NORTH OF THE CITY.

ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR? WE HOPE TO BEGIN IN I WOULD SAY WITHIN A YEAR OR TWO AT THE MAX.

AND THE BIGGER PROJECT, THAT'S PROBABLY.

WELL, ONCE THEY GET FUNDING AND THE, H&M COFI IS NOT ONLY APPLYING TO THE ABA, BUT THEY'RE APPLYING TO SEVERAL SOURCES OF FUNDING, SO ONCE THEY GET THAT ALL INTO PLACE, THEN WE'VE GOT TO START BUILDING. THEY'RE HOPING TO DO THE FIBER PIECE WITHIN TWO YEARS.

AFTER THAT, YOU'VE GOT TO DO THE ISP PIECE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO DEFINITELY THE WIRELESS WOULD START RIGHT AWAY AND WOULD BE MUCH QUICKER FOR OUR RESIDENTS. OK, THANKS VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NONE.

QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION.

THANK YOU, MS. SCOTT. THE MOTION TO RECEIVE HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED ALREADY, SO I WILL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.

NO PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS, NO OUTSIDE BOARD REPORTING.

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IS THERE ANY UPDATES? MR. GAGNON. YES, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR MY NOTES HERE.

OK. WE JUST RECENTLY GOT THE REPORT FROM THE ENGINEERS REGARDING THE CURLING CLUB BUILDING THAT WILL BE CIRCULATING THAT.

IT'S A RATHER LARGE FILE.

SO WE'LL JUST GET THAT TO THE COMMITTEE AND TO COUNCIL.

WE HAVE A REPORT FROM VDO AND A COUPLE OF OTHER TECHNICAL REPORTS ON OUR EXISTING FACILITIES. AND WE'RE JUST STRUGGLING TO FIND A AT THE SMT, THE SENIOR MANAGERS TO REVIEW, THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO THAT BY LATER THIS WEEK AND THEN BE ABLE TO BUY CLOSER TO LATER IN THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL SORT OF HUB MEETING, OUR SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING TO DELVE INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.

SO WE'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE NOW TO BEING ABLE TO HAVE A LOT OF INTEL WHEN IT COMES TO THE EXISTING FACILITIES ACROSS THE BOARD, INCLUDING THE CURLING CLUB.

AND ONCE WE DIG INTO THE VDO REPORT, A LITTLE BIT MORE INTEL ON WHAT THIS NEW PROPOSED BUILDING WILL COST AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET IN FRONT OF COUNCIL FOR SOME MEANINGFUL UPDATES IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

AND HAVE WE REPORTED ON THE [INAUDIBLE] CONFERENCE SINCE THEN, SINCE WE HAD THE CONFERENCE? YES, I BELIEVE SO.

AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY IMMEDIATE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR A RECREATION CENTER OF THIS

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BUT THEY'RE ALL [INAUDIBLE].

WORKING WITH COVID AT THE MOMENT AND HAVEN'T BEEN TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING, [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S LARGELY IT ON THE SPORTS HUB, UNLESS COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS, OF COURSE. I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS.

NINE POINT TWO ARTS AND CULTURE HUB UPDATE.

YES, WE HAD OUR FIRST INAUGURAL ARTS AND CULTURE STEERING COMMITTEE ON FRIDAY, A LITTLE BIT NONTRADITIONAL AS I ENDED UP CHAIRING THAT MEETING.

BUT THAT WAS JUST BECAUSE IT WAS OUR FIRST MEETING.

THE TERMS OF REFERENCE WHEN WE REVIEWED OUR PROCEDURAL BYLAW, THE TERMS OF REFERENCE OF THAT COMMITTEE NEED TO BE REVIEWED AND ADOPTED BY COUNCIL AND FOR TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY REASONS. WE DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO SHOEHORN IT ONTO THIS AGENDA.

SO THAT WILL BE APPEARING ON THE FEBRUARY 22ND COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA.

THE STEERING COMMITTEE REVIEWED A DRAFT TERMS OF REFERENCE, MADE A FEW SUBTLE CHANGES, RECOMMENDED CHANGES, AND I WILL BE COMING TO COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 22ND AND THEN AT THE NEXT MEETING OF THE ARTS STEERING COMMITTEE AFTER THE TERMS OF REFERENCE ARE ADOPTED, WHICH WOULD BE FRIDAY, THE TWENTY SIXTH, THE COMMITTEE AGREED TO GET INTO A GROUP MOST LIKELY MONTHLY ON THE WHATEVER THAT IS, THE FOURTH FRIDAY OF THE MONTH AT 10:00 A.M.

SO AT THAT MEETING WE'LL BE ABLE TO REVIEW THE TERMS OF REFERENCE AND REALLY GET ROLLING FROM THERE. WE WERE DELIGHTED TO SEE BOTH REPRESENTATIONS FROM SERPENT FIRST NATION AND MISSISSAUGA FIRST NATION.

SO THAT WAS ENCOURAGING.

WHAT WE ALL NEED TO WRAP OUR MIND AROUND THE COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL IS THAT THE CONSULTANT IS IN THE BALLPARK NOW OF A 12 MILLION DOLLAR FACILITY AT APPROXIMATELY TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. THE PREVIOUS CIVIC CENTER WAS FORTY FIVE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DEFINE THAT.

BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAD A MASSIVE FORMER HOTEL TO DEAL WITH.

SO WE WERE FILL IN THE SPACE WITH WHATEVER SUITED THE FANCY OF THE [INAUDIBLE] NOW WE'RE TRYING TO STRATEGICALLY FIND A BUILDING THAT WOULD SUIT THE NEEDS OF ALL THE ARTS AND CULTURE STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING OURSELVES AND THE AFFORDABLE, OF COURSE.

SO 12 MILLION DOLLARS IF OUR THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS SEED MONEY CAN BE LEVERAGED AT SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT FUNDING PERFECT.

IF WE CAN ONLY GET 50 CENT FUNDING OR 50 PERCENT FUNDING, WE MAY HAVE A BIT OF A SHORTFALL OR NEED TO FIND SOME OTHER FUNDS OR DO SOME FUNDRAISING OR OTHER PARTNERS, OTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. WE KNOW WE HOPE THAT THE CULTURAL SPACES CANADA GRANT THE FEDERAL GRANT WILL REMAIN IN PLACE AND THAT CAN GO FOR 50 TO 75 PERCENT FUNDING FOR THE CAPITAL PHASE.

SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD THAT IT'S NO LONGER APPLICABLE, THE FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR WENT TO THE CITY OF SUDBURY OR SUDBURY STAKEHOLDERS FOR A SIMILAR FEASIBILITY STUDY.

SO THAT'S A GOOD SIGN. IT WAS JUST ANNOUNCED LAST WEEK.

SO IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE NEED TO GET BACK TO THE CONSULTANT WITH SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT. TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT, 12 MILLION DOLLAR CONCEPT.

AT THIS POINT, IT'S NOT A DESIGN.

IT'S JUST SIMPLY SQUARE FEET AND HOW IT FITS INTO THE VARIOUS SPACES, FUNCTIONALITIES, KNOWING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS A FOOT CONSTRUCTION AND FITTING COSTS, WHICH SEEMS PRICEY AT FIRST, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE A HOCKEY ARENA IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN A PERFORMING ARTS THEATER WHERE YOU'VE GOT ACOUSTICS, FLOW AND ACCESSIBILITY, ALL KINDS OF OTHER ISSUES.

BUT. SO THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE THE STAKEHOLDERS AT THE TABLE AND WE'VE GOT [INAUDIBLE] CONTINUING TO WORK ON OUR BEHALF AND WE ARE STILL HOPING TO APPLY TO THE CULTURAL SPACES CANADA GRANT FUND LATER THIS WINTER FOR THE DETAILED DESIGN PHASE SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO BE SHOVEL READY.

AND WE HOPE THAT FUND WILL STILL BE THERE FOR THE NEXT DETAILED DESIGN, WHICH NOW MAY COST APPROXIMATELY ONE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS.

THAT'S MY UPDATE. THANK YOU, GOOD AMOUNT OF INFORMATION.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON THIS ONE? SEEING NONE.

NINE POINT THREE RESIDENTIAL WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS, IS THERE ANYTHING TO UPDATE ON THIS MR. GAGNON OR, THAT'S NOTHING FOR THIS EVENING, MAYBE A FUTURE CLOSED SESSION, AS YOU ALLUDED TO EARLIER, WOULD PROBABLY DO WITH AN UPDATE.

BUT RIGHT NOW, AT THE MOMENT, NO.

THANK YOU. THERE'S NO PETITION'S CORRESPONDENCE, SEVEN POINT ONE REQUEST FOR SUPPORT FROM

[11. CORRESPONDENCE]

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COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

I MOTION TO SUPPORT.

IS THERE A SECONDER FOR A MOTION? SECONDED BY COUNCILOR CYR? THANK YOU. LOOKING THROUGH THIS, THEY GET THEIR POINTS FROM AMO, THE ASSOCIATION MUNICIPALITIES OF ONTARIO.

WE KNOW FROM GOING THROUGH BUDGET THAT OUR MUNICIPALITY AND ALL OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE BEEN HIT WITH 30 TO 40 PERCENT INCREASES IN INSURANCE PREMIUMS. AND WHAT THIS IS LOOKING FOR IS BASICALLY A LITTLE BIT OF OVERSIGHT.

SO, THE INSURANCE COMPANIES CAN'T KEEP JUST RUNNING OVER MUNICIPALITIES AND DRAINING FUNDS FROM THE TAXPAYERS LEVY.

ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. OK, WE LOST COUNCILOR TURNER.

SO I'LL ASK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE FOR THIS ONE, A MOTION TO SUPPORT:.

THAT'S CARRIED, THANK YOU.

THERE'S NO NOTICE OF MOTION THIS EVENING.

COUNCIL'S REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS, I HAVE A PROCLAMATION HERE PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS

[13. COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS]

TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF CHILDREN BORN WITH CONGENITAL HEART DISEASE REQUIRE OPEN HEART SURGERY WITHIN DAYS OR EVEN HOURS OF BEING BORN, WHEREAS CONGENITAL HEART DISEASE STEALS MORE LIVES A YEAR THAN ALL OTHER MAJOR CHILDHOOD ILLNESSES AND CANCERS COMBINED.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, DAN MARCHISELLA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF FEBRUARY 8TH THROUGH FEBRUARY 15TH, TWENTY TWENTY ONE AS CONGENITAL HEART DISEASE AWARENESS WEEK.

THE ONLY THING I HAD TO REPORT ON WAS THE COVID-19 AND WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.

WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT EARLIER, ALONG WITH ONE OF MR. GAGNON, AND MR. HALLOCH'S REPORT.

SO DON'T REALLY NEED TO GET INTO THAT ANY FURTHER.

IS THERE ANY UPDATES FROM COUNCIL? COUNCILOR FINAMORE? THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE THE PARENTS IN TOWN THAT ARE THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX AND ARE DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB WITH THEIR KIDS AT HOME, I SAW ON FACEBOOK THIS WEEK SOME FAMILIES THAT HAD THEIR GUIDE CAMP OUT AT THEIR HOMES.

AND THERE'S VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE STILL RUNNING GROUPS FOR KIDS THROUGH ZOOM AND THROUGH TEAM AND THROUGH MEETINGS.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THE KIDS ENGAGED AND FOR GIVING OF YOUR TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. IT'S HARD TIMES, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT KIDS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF NORMALCY THROUGH SOME OF THEIR ACTIVITIES.

I SEE VIDEOS WITH LITTLE ONES DANCING IN THEIR BASEMENT ON ZOOM MEETINGS AND TEAM MEETINGS AND WITH THEIR INSTRUCTORS.

AND I JUST THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE PARENTS AND TO THE TEACHERS AND TO THE VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE KEEPING ALL THESE ACTIVITIES GOING BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. WE OURSELVES HAVE WENT TO FACEBOOK AND RESERVE A ROOM FOR FREE.

AND WE PLAY GAMES WITH ALL OF OUR WHOLE FAMILY AND ALSO IN SOUTHERN ONTARIO, SOME IN OTTAWA, [INAUDIBLE], ALL OVER.

SO THERE ARE THINGS TO DO AT HOME.

IF YOU THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX AND DON'T SIT AT HOME AND FEEL LONELY, REACH OUT TO SOMEONE AND TRY TO FIND SOMETHING TO DO.

WE HAVE A LOT OF FUN. IT'S NOT THE SAME AS APPARENTLY THEY MISS MY COOKING OF THE SNACKS, BUT THEY FIGURE THAT OUT ON THEIR OWN.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX AND ENTERTAINING THEIR FAMILIES AND THE KIDS.

THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FINAMORE, COUNCILOR TURNER.

THANKS YOUR WORSHIP. JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO AN ISSUE THAT'S STARTING TO HEAD OUR WAY.

SAULT ST. MARIE AND SUDBURY NOTICED A RISE IN THE NUMBER OF OPIOIDS CAUSED OVERDOSES. THE NUMBER OF DEATHS ARE SURPRISINGLY HIGH AND PARTICULARLY IN SUDBURY, AND

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SO WE'D BE SILLY TO THINK THAT MAYBE WE'RE IMMUNE FROM THIS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TO HELP SAVE PEOPLE'S CHILDREN, PERHAPS, UNFORTUNATELY, PARENTS IN SOME CASES IS GO TO THE PHARMACY AND PICK UP THE FREE NALOXONE KIT. THOSE KITS, JUST A NASAL SPRAY, EASY TO ADMINISTER AND, YOU CAN BE A HERO IN A MINUTE, SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE, SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE IF YOU.

IF YOU HAVE THE TIME, IN FACT, TAKE THE TIME TO GO TO THE PHARMACY, PICK UP A FREE KIT, THROW IT IN YOUR CAR AND JUST HAVE IT, JUST IN CASE.

OK, COULD REALLY BE IMPORTANT TO THE REST OF THE FAMILIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR TURNER, JUST TO ADD TO THAT, AS OUR DETACHMENT COMMANDER TYLER STURGEON MENTIONED AT OUR LAST VIRTUAL TOWN HALL ON THE SAME NOTE, IF YOU DO HAVE SOMEONE AT A PARTY IN YOUR HOME OVERDOSING, CALL 911 ONE IMMEDIATELY.

THE POLICE ARE LOOKING AT CHARGING ANYONE WITH POSSESSION IN THOSE SCENARIOS; THEY'D RATHER JUST SAVE A LIFE.

SO DON'T EVEN HESITATE OR THINK ABOUT IT; CALL NINE ONE ONE.

MR. GAGNON. I JUST HAD TWO QUICK POINTS.

THERE WILL BE A SPECIAL--WE HAVEN'T ANNOUNCED FORMALLY YET, BUT WE WILL IN THE NEAR FUTURE, A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING ON THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 18TH AT 6:00 P.M.

FOR THE LONG OVERDUE REFRESHER TRAINING WITH MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND HOUSING AND OUR INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER, BOB SWAYZE.

THAT WILL BE A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING, BUT WE HAVEN'T QUITE SORTED IT OUT.

BUT WE WILL BE INVITING ALL COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO ARE ZOOM CAPABLE TO PARTICIPATE AS WELL, BECAUSE THE CODE OF CONDUCT AND RELEVANT POLICIES APPLY TO ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, LAYPERSONS AS WELL AS THE CITY COUNCILORS.

SO, WE'LL BE HAVING THAT MEETING ON THE 18TH AND IT WILL BE LIVE STREAMED AND ARCHIVED.

SO A HANDY TRAINING PIECE FOR FUTURE AS WELL.

AND JUST GOING ON RECORD AS SAYING I MISS COUNCILOR FINAMORE BAKING AS WELL AS.

[LAUGHTER] IS THERE ANY OTHER PIECES FOR COUNCIL REPORTS BEFORE I HIT THE BIG TICKET ITEMS? NO. OK, SO OUR BIG TICKET ITEMS FOR THIS WEEK, BANK OF MONTREAL SALARY FIFTY ONE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED, HYDRO ONE FOR JANUARY TWENTY TWENTY ONE THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED, RECEIVER GENERAL NINETY THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED, ALGOMA DISTRICT SERVICES ADMINISTRATION BOARD JANUARY MUNICIPAL LEVY, ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY TWO THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED. GFL ENVIRONMENTAL CURBSIDE GARBAGE, THIRTY FOUR THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED, OMER'S FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND RENAISSANCE SENIOR CENTER ANNUAL DONATION FOR ACTIVE LIVING, TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND STOBIE MECHANICAL AND WELDING THEATER CONTRACT AND THEATER REPAIR, THIRTY TWO THOUSAND.

THAT'S IT FOR THAT. THERE WAS AN ADDENDUM WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THAT ALREADY, INTRODUCTION

[15. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF BY-LAWS]

MAY I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE. MOVED BY COUNCILOR MANN, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR CYR, AND I DO SEE THAT ON THE ROAD ALREADY, SO AS MR. HALLOCH SAID, IT DID ARRIVE VERY, VERY QUICKLY.

NICE NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

HOPEFULLY IT LASTS A FEW YEARS THIS TIME AROUND.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED, THANK YOU.

FIFTEEN POINT TWO BY LAW, TWENTY ONE DASH TEN BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE THE ACCEPTANCE OF AN OFFER TO PURCHASE RESPECTING PART SEVEN BLOCK SEVENTY SEVEN ON PLAN ONE M FOR THIRTY NINE [INAUDIBLE] PLACE.

CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILOR CYR, SECOND BY COUNCILOR TURNER.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? JUST ONE COMMENT.

THANK YOU FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY, I ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO NEW HOMES AND NEW RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.

CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.

UH, NO QUESTION THAT I'M AWARE OF MS.

[16. PUBLIC QUESTION PERIOD]

NONE HAVE COME TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

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I'M SURE MR. HALLOCH'S ON THAT.

THERE'S MR. HALLOCH.

I DIDN'T SEE WHAT THE QUESTION WAS.

DO YOU HAVE THE QUESTION? IT WAS JUST A QUESTION OF OF THE STREETLIGHTS BEING OUT IN VARIOUS PARTS OF TOWN, BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT'S ON THIS AGENDA.

THAT WAS THE ONLY PUBLIC QUESTION I RECEIVED.

BUT AGAIN, NOT AN AGENDA ITEM, MORE OF A PUBLIC WORKS ITEM.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR STILL BEING AROUND, MR. HALLOCH. NO PROBLEM.

NO CLOSED SESSION THIS EVENING.

[18. CONFIRMATORY BY-LAW]

ANY FINAL QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED, THANK YOU.

AND A MOTION TO ADJOURN, A MOVER, PLEASE.

MOVED BY COUNCILOR MANN, SECOND BY COUNCILOR CYR.

AGAIN, NO FINAL QUESTIONS.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.