Apr 12, 2021 City Council

ALL RIGHT, NO DECLARATIONS THIS EVENING WILL CARRY ON.

ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES, 4.1 MARCH 22ND, 2021 REGULAR, CAN I HAVE A

[4. ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES]

MOVE OR TO ADOPT THE MINUTES, PLEASE.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

ANY QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? SEEING NONE I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE ROLL CALL, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR CYR.

COUNCILLOR MANNN, IN FAVOR YOUR WORSHIP.

COUNCILLOR TURNER FAVOR.

I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED 4.2 READING OF RESOLUTIONS PASSED FOLLOWING THE CLOSED SESSION OF MARCH 22ND, 2021 COUNCIL MEETING MS. BRAY, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.

THAT THE HEAD OF THE INSTITUTION PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE RECORDS AS DETAILED IN FOI REQUEST FOI-01-21 IN MARCH 3RD, 2021 AND THAT THE RECORDS BE RELEASED UPON PAYMENT OF THE APPROPRIATE FEE AND THAT WAS CARRIED.

THANK YOU, MS. BRAY.

NO PUBLIC PRESENTATION THIS EVENING, 6 INTRODUCTION CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE

[6. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS]

REPORTS, 6.1, A REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES, A FIRE SAFETY GRANT PROGRAM.

RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES DATED MARCH 25TH, 2021 BE RECEIVED AND THAT THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE OFFICE OF THE FIRE MARSHAL TO RECEIVE THE FIRE SAFETY GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF 7,200 DOLLARS IN THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE ITEMIZED LIST FOR THE GRANT ALLOCATION.

CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR,CYR, GOOD EVENING, MR. THOMAS, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD, YOUR WORSHIP.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BACK IN JANUARY 13TH, 2021.

THE ONTARIO FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WOULD BE CLOSING THE ONTARIO FIRE COLLEGE.

THIS YEAR AND BACK IN MARCH 11TH, THEY CAME OUT WITH A GRANT FOR MUNICIPALITIES TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS THERE FOR VIRTUAL TRAINING AND SENDING FIREFIGHTERS TO REGIONAL TRAINING CENTERS.

BASED ON OUR POPULATION AND SIZE OF OUR DEPARTMENT, ELLIOT LAKE WAS ELIGIBLE FOR 7,200 DOLLARS.

THE MONEY THAT THE GOVERNMENT CAME OUT WITH IS TO BE USED FOR VIRTUAL TRAINING FOR FIREFIGHTERS, HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COST TO SEND FIREFIGHTERS TO REGIONAL TRAINING CENTERS THROUGHOUT THE PROVINCE.

OUR CLOSEST ONE IS IN NORTH BAY.

ALSO, THE MONEY CAN BE USED TO HELP DO HOME INSPECTIONS AND COMMERCIAL INSPECTIONS AS WELL.

WHEN I SUBMITTED FOR THIS GRANT THROUGH THE PROVINCE, WE HAD TO GIVE A LIST OF THINGS WHAT WE WOULD BE USING THE MONEY FOR.

SO WHAT WE PUT IN FOR WAS WIFI FOR THE FIREHALL SO THAT WE CAN USE FOR VIRTUAL TRAINING THROUGHOUT THE STATION INSTEAD OF JUST BEING STUCK IN A CLASSROOM WHERE IT WOULD BE HARD TO MAINTAIN OUR SOCIAL DISTANCING.

THE FIREFIGHTERS.

WE PUT IN FOR THREE SURFACE PRO TABLETS SO THAT FIREFIGHTERS CAN GO DOWN ON THE APPARATUS FLOOR WHERE THE TRUCKS ARE AND DO TRAINING THERE WITH THE EQUIPMENT AND WATCH THE

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VIDEOS AT THE SAME TIME INSTEAD OF COMING BACK UP TO THE CLASSROOM AND SO ON.

AND THE REST OF THE MONEY THAT WE WOULD HAVE LEFT OVER AFTER THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN PURCHASED, WE CAN HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COST TO SEND FIREFIGHTERS TO OTHER REGIONAL TRAINING CENTERS TO GET BY [INAUDIBLE].

SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE GRANT WAS 7200 HUNDRED DOLLARS, SO WORKING WITH IT, IT WAS 500 DOLLARS TO PUT THE WIFI THROUGHOUT THE STATION SO THERE WAS WIFI, NO MATTER WHERE WE WERE IN THE STATION, THREE SURFACE PROS WERE 4500 DOLLARS AND THERE WAS 2200 DOLLARS LEFT OVER THAT WE WOULD USE TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE FIREFIGHTERS WHO PAID THE SCHOOL.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S STILL NO WHERE AS REASONABLE AS WHAT IT WAS FOR THE ONTARIO COLLEGE, WHERE IT WAS ONLY 65 DOLLARS TO SEND A FIREFIGHTER TO SCHOOL THAT INCLUDED ALL THE MEALS AND HOUSING.

NOW WITH THE REGIONAL TRAINING CENTERS, WE'RE LOOKING AT PAINT [INAUDIBLE], HIGHER REGISTRATION COSTS, UP TO 950 DOLLARS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR HOTEL ROOMS AND SO ON.

SO WHAT USED TO COST TO SEND A FIREFIGHTER A WEEK TO SCHOOL FOR 6500 DOLLARS IS NOW APPROXIMATELY 4200 DOLLARS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE FIRE COLLEGE CLOSURE CAME UP AFTER WE ALREADY SUBMITTED OUR BUDGET FOR TRAINING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE DO WITH BRINGING INSTRUCTORS TO ELLIOT LAKE TO HELP.

OFFSET SOME OF THE EXTRA EXPENSES FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

SO THE FINANCIAL IMPACT, THERE'S NO FINANCIAL IMPACT REALLY TO THE MUNICIPALITY AT THIS TIME, WITH THE GRANT.

IN SUMMARY, IT'S RECOMMENDED THE COUNCIL ENTER AN AGREEMENT WITH THE OFFICE OF THE FIRE MARSHAL TO PROCEED THE FIRE SAFETY GRANT FOR THE AMOUNT 7200 DOLLARS AND APPROVE THE ITEMIZED ITEMS LISTED IN THE GRANT ALLOCATION PROVIDED BY THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY.

THAT'S IT YOUR WORSHIP IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

I OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF.

OK, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, JUST CURIOUS, IS IT CLOSED JUST BECAUSE OF COVID OR IS IT PERMANENTLY CLOSED? THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, IT IS PERMANENTLY CLOSED.

IT WAS THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT WHO DID THIS, NOT THE ONTARIO FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

FROM WHAT WE WERE TOLD IN A MEETING WITH THE FIRE CHIEFS ACROSS THE PROVINCE.

SO IT IS PERMANENTLY CLOSED.

I BELIEVE IT'S THE.

MARCH 31ST WAS THE LAST DAY, AND NOW IT'S ALL DONE THROUGH REGIONAL TRAINING CENTERS.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION YOUR WORSHIP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF ON THIS TOPIC? SEEING NO CALL FOR ROLL CALL, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

COUNCILLOR TURNER.

COUNCILLOR MANNN IN FAVOR.

6.2 REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES FOREST FIRE MANNAGEMENT AGREEMENT WITH MNR RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES DATED MARCH 23RD, 2021 BE RECEIVED AND THAT THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE CAN TURN TO A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT WITH THE MINISTRY OF NATURAL RESOURCES AND FORESTRY FOR THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO WITH RESPECT TO THE PREVENTION AND CONTROL OF FOREST FIRES WITHIN THE CORPORATION OF THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE.

CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR CYR.

NOW, SOME OF YOUR LAGGING AGAIN.

SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, THANK YOU.

UH.

AGAIN, CHIEF, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP, THIS IS NOT A NEW AGREEMENT, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH A RENEWAL AGREEMENT THERE WITH THE MINISTRY OF NATURAL RESOURCES.

WE'VE HAD A GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THEM GOING BACK AS FAR AS 1974 TO HELP PROVIDE PROTECTION TO OUR 70,311 HECTARES.

IN THIS AGREEMENT, OUR NINE TOWNSHIPS WERE DIVIDED UP INTO THE CROWN PROTECTION

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AND MUNICIPAL PROTECTION.

SO IN THE CROWN PROTECTION, THE MINISTRY OF NATURAL RESOURCES LOOK OUT FOR THAT AND OUR NINE TOWNSHIPS AND THEN THE MUNICIPAL PROTECTION THE ELLIOT LAKE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL LOOK AFTER.

THE CROWN PROTECTION AREA IS 56525 HECTARES.

THIS LAND IS HARD FOR US TO GAIN ACCESS TO DUE TO REMOTE AREAS AND NO ROADS TO BE ABLE TO GET IN.

THE ELLIOT LAKE FIRE DEPARTMENT LOOKS AFTER 13786 HECTARES.

THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE EASY ACCESS TO USE IT, FOR AN EXAMPLE, [INAUDIBLE] OFF THE SIDE OF HIGHWAY.

DETAILING ROADS AND SO ON.

SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS IF A FIRE BROKE OUT INSIDE THE CROWN PROTECTION AREA, MINISTRY OF NATURAL RESOURCES WOULD FLY IN AND TAKE CARE OF THAT.

IF WE DID NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE MINISTRY OF NATURAL RESOURCES, THE MINISTRY WOULD STILL PROVIDE THAT PROTECTION, BUT AT A HIGHER COST.

WITH THE AGREEMENT, WE DO NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR TRAVEL TIME FOR THE MINISTRY TO FLY IN TO WEATHER OTHER FARMERS OR BIRD DOG OR HELICOPTER CREW TO COME IN, WE ONLY PAY FOR THE TIME THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY ON THE SCENE DOING THE FIRE.

THIS IS A VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE SERVICE THAT IS PROVIDED BY THE PROVINCE.

A GOOD FIRE, WHAT WE COULD HAVE THEM BROUGHT IN, IT COULD BE EASILY OVER TWO DAYS, ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR FIRE PROTECTION, WHETHER IT'S THEM DROPPING WATER LOADS WITH WATER BOMBERS OR HAVING CREWS COME OUT ASSIST.

NOW, IF THE FIRE ACTUALLY HAPPENS IN THE CROWN PROTECTION AREA AND MINISTRY ASKS US TO GO TO ASSIST, WE WOULD BUILD BACK OUR HOURLY RATE FOR ALL THE FIREFIGHTERS ON THE SCENE AND EQUIPMENT.

NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF A FIRE STARTS IN THE MUNICIPAL AREA AND IT CREEPS OVER AND GOES INTO THE CROWN PROTECTION AREA, WE WOULD BE ON THE HOOK FOR THE MINISTRY TO COME IN AND PUT THAT AREA OUT.

SO IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A CROWN, SORRY, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE MINISTRY OF NATURAL RESOURCES TO GET A CREW HERE WITH A WATER BOMBER AND A BIRD DOG, WHICH WOULD BE THE SPOTTER PLANE FOR THE WATER BOMBER AND A CREW FOR WITH A HELICOPTER, WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY FORTY ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED TWELVE DOLLARS TO HAVE THEM COME PUT OUT A SMALL FIRE.

WITH AN AGREEMENT, IT WOULD COST US FIFTEEN THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED EIGHTY TWO DOLLARS AND SEVENTY FOUR CENTS WHERE WE WOULD SAVE TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED TWENTY NINE DOLLARS AND FORTY TWO CENTS.

SO FOR THE MUNICIPALITY TO ENTER AN AGREEMENT WITH THE MINISTRY OF NATURAL RESOURCES, IT'S GREAT INSURANCE.

NOW, WE DO, HOWEVER, RECEIVE SOME SMALL MONEY AMOUNT FOR PROVIDING PROTECTION FOR PATENT LANDS.

WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY TWENTY TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR DOLLARS AND SIX CENTS.

WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING MONEY EVER SINCE 1974 FOR PROVIDING PROTECTION FOR THESE PATENT LAND AREAS.

THAT MONEY THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING OVER THE YEARS HAS BEEN GOING INTO A RESERVE FUND EVERY YEAR JUST IN CASE WE HAVE TO CALL IN THE INDUSTRY TO COME AND HELP BAIL US OUT IF WE HAVE A HUGE FOREST FIRE WHERE WE HAVE TO CALL THEM FIXED WING AIRCRAFT OR HELICOPTER CREWS AND HELP SUPPRESS THE FIRE.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT WITH THE MINISTRY OF NATURAL RESOURCES, IT'S HIGHLY RECOMMENDED AS PART OF THIS REVIEW WE DID WITH THE FOREIGN MINISTRY NATURAL RESOURCES, WE HAD TO PROVIDE TRAINING.

IN FACT, THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE, WE REVIEWED THE AREAS THAT ARE CONSIDERED HIGH RISK.

WE DO HAVE SOME SMALL AREAS ALONG HIGHWAY 108 THAT HAVE STANDING TIMBER THAT WOULD GO PRETTY FAST WITH JACK PINE, THE BLACK SPRUCE AND SO ON, BUT NOTHING HUGE ENOUGH THAT WOULD CAUSE A FIRE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THAT IS ONE THING WE ARE DEFINITELY NOT WORRIED ABOUT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF HARD WATER IN AROUND THE MUNICIPALITY, WHICH DOES NOT GO UP LIKE.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT WE DO ENTER AN AGREEMENT WITH THE MINISTRY OF NATURAL RESOURCES FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD AND.

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BACK TO YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

THANK YOU AGAIN, CHIEF, FOR YOUR REPORT.

I DON'T [INAUDIBLE] IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

UH.

FOR SOME REASON, I'M LAGGING BECAUSE ONLY SOME OF YOU ARE MOVING ON MY SCREEN.

THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS AT THE MOMENT.

I'D ASK YOU, JUST SAY YOUR NAME.

I HAVE ONE, YOUR WORSHIP, OK, COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

CHIEF, ARE WE? LOOKING AT HAVING THE FIRE SERVICE DEPLOY OUT OF OUR AIRPORT AGAIN THIS YEAR, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE REPORT.

I JUST I WANT TO KNOW IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT DEPLOYING OUT OF OUR AIRPORT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP? I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW THIS IS GOING TO PLAY OUT THIS YEAR DUE TO COVID, I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP MOST OF THEIR CREWS IN [INAUDIBLE] AND RANGER LAKE TO HELP PROTECT ELLIOT LAKE.

NOW, IF WE DO HAVE VERY EXTREME CONDITIONS, I BELIEVE THEY WOULD BRING ONE HELICOPTER CREW IN INTO ELLIOTT LAKE JUST TO BE ON AN ALERT.

ALSO, THE PLOSIVES WATER BOMBER FOR US, WHICH WOULD BE IN SUDBURY.

SO THAT WOULD TAKE APPROXIMATELY, I BELIEVE IT'S FORTY FIVE MINUTES TO 50 MINUTES FROM THE TIME THEY'RE NOTIFIED TO THE TIME TO PUT OUT THE FIRE.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T KNOW.

I WAS TALKING TO THE MINISTRY OF NATURAL RESOURCES LAST WEEK JUST TO TALK ABOUT THIS REPORT, JUST TO GIVE A HEADS UP THAT I'M BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL.

AND I ASKED ONE OF THE CONDITIONS, WHAT ARE THEY EXPECTING FOR CONDITIONS FOR THIS YEAR? AND THEY HAVE NO IDEA.

EVERYTHING FOR THE FIRE SEASON IS BASED ON THE JET STREAM AND NOBODY CAN PROTECT THE JET STREAM.

SO WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT KIND OF FIRE SEASON THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WITHIN OUR AREA IN THE NORTH.

I KNOW THERE'S THREE FIRES ALREADY BURNING IN NORTHERN NORTH WESTERN ONTARIO.

NOTHING AROUND OUR AREA HERE AT THIS TIME.

SO THE FIRE SEASON IS EARLY THIS YEAR.

WE'RE HOPING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE RAIN TO COME ALONG AND SOFTEN THINGS UP AND GET THE LEAVES ON THE TREES QUICKER.

BUT FOR THEM TO BE STATIONED HERE, THAT'S GOING TO BE A DAY BY DAY, DEPENDING ON OUR CONDITIONS.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

A QUESTION FROM COUNCILLOR TURNER.

THANK YOU, WORSHIP, CHIEF FOR THE QUESTION ABOUT THE AREA THAT'S BEING PROTECTED HERE, YOU MENTIONED THERE'S SOME 70 THOUSAND PLUS HECTARES.

FIFTY SIX THOUSAND OF THAT IS CROWN LAND.

CAN YOU GIVE US A SENSE OF WHERE THESE BOUNDARIES ARE THAT IDENTIFY WHAT'S CROWN LAND AND WHAT'S CITY? SO TECHNICALLY, IT ALL BELONGS TO THE MUNICIPALITY.

IT'S ALL WITH ALL OF THAT.

SEVENTY THOUSAND HECTARES IS ALL PART OF OUR NINE TOWNSHIPS.

SO IF YOU LOOK ON A MAP AND MINISTER FOR NATURAL RESOURCES, YOU'LL SEE THE CITY BOUNDARIES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONLY THE ONLY THAT FOR STANDING TIMBER WITHIN THOSE NINE TOWNSHIPS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

SO IT'S OVER SEVEN THOUSAND HECTARES, WHICH IS A HUGE, HUGE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

IT'S CROWN LAND, BUT IT'S STILL WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT, WE WOULD BE ON THE HOOK FOR ALL OF IT.

AND ONCE AGAIN, WE CAN'T WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES.

WE DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT AND WE DON'T HAVE THE ACCESS.

AND THIS IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH NATURAL RESOURCES WHERE THEY CAN FLY IN SET A CREW DOWN OR USE FIXED WING AIRCRAFT TO EXTINGUISH THE FIRE.

SO CHIEF I GUESS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR HERE IS WHERE DO YOU SEE? WHAT AREA DO YOU DEFINE AS WHAT IS THE PROTECTED AREA BY ELLIOT LAKE FIRE DEPARTMENT? OK.

OK, OK, SORRY.

AND WHERE DO YOU DECIDE THAT AT SEMINAR'S TURN? THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP, WE HAVE A MAP HERE IN THE FIRE HALL THAT SHOWS EXACTLY WHAT THE MUNICIPALITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, AND I BELIEVE IT'S IN YOUR IN YOUR PACKAGE THERE YOU'LL SEE IT.

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IT'S GOT LINES THROUGH IT.

THERE.

ANYTHING WITHIN THOSE LINES.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE A DIAGONAL LINE IS PART OF MUNICIPAL PROTECTION.

SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH TWO HUNDRED, LET'S SAY, APPROXIMATELY TWO HUNDRED FEET ON EITHER SIDE OF HIGHWAY 108 AS FAR AS PEOPLE.

AND THEN NORTH, IT WOULD GO UP TO QUIRKE LAKE, I BELIEVE, AND THEN WOULD GO SO FAR DOWN SAND ROCK ROAD AS WELL.

SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE MAP, IT'S PART OF YOUR PACKAGE.

IT WILL SHOW YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE MUNICIPAL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR.

THE PROBLEM IS AS WELL, WE CAN'T HAVE ALL THE ELLIOT LAKE FIREFIGHTERS.

UP NORTH, TRYING TO PUT OUT A FOREST FIRE AND THEN, HEAVEN FORBID, WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY IN THE MUNICIPALITY WHERE WE WOULD HAVE NOBODY TO RESPOND.

SO THIS IS ONE OF THE OTHER REASONS WHY IT'S NICE TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE MINISTRY JUST SO THAT WE ARE NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM ACTUALLY RESPONDING TO ANOTHER EMERGENCY WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY.

I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

IF NOT I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE IN FAVOR.

COUNCILLOR TURNER, FAVOR.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE, IN FAVOR.

THANK YOU AGAIN, CHIEF, THANK YOUR YOUR WORSHIP? OK, 6.3 MEMO FROM THE DIRECTOR OF CLERKS AND PLANNING SERVICES REQUEST FOR EXTENSION ON COVENANT FOR WATERFRONT LOT ON DUNLOP SHORES ROAD.

AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH PERSONAL INFORMATION ABOUT IDENTIFIABLE INDIVIDUALS AND POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY BY THE MUNICIPALITY IT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 239(2)(B) AND (C) OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT.

I LOOK FOR A MOVER TO PUT THAT IN CLOSED SESSION.

UNFORTUNATELY, AGAIN, MY INTERNET SEEMS TO BE GIMPING OUT THIS EVENING, SO IT'S SPORADIC.

CAN I HAVE A MOVER PUT THAT IN CLOSED.

I'LL MOVE IT.

I'LL SECOND IT THEN.

MANN, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, THANK YOU, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE CALL FOR A ROLL CALL, PUT THIS IN CLOSED, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

COUNCILLOR TURNER FAVOR.

COUNCILLOR PEARCE FAVOR.

COUNCILLOR CYR, FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED TO CLOSED SESSION.

I CAN'T WAIT TO BE BACK IN IN-PERSON MEETINGS, I TELL YOU.

LOVE TECHNOLOGY, BUT I'M GETTING TIRED OF IT, 6.4, REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS REPURCHASE AND SUPPLY OF ONE, THREE QUARTER TON, FOUR BY FOUR CREW CAB SERVICE TRUCK.

THE RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF REPORT FLT 202103 DATED APRIL 6TH 2021.

OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED, AND THAT CONTRACT NUMBER FLT TO 202103 FOR THE PURCHASE AND SUPPLY OF ONE THREE QUARTER TON, FOUR BY FOUR CREW CAB SERVICE TRUCK IN THE AMOUNT OF FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED SIX DOLLARS PLUS BOOKABLE TAXES BE AWARDED TO NORTHSHORE FORD INC.

AND CAN I HAVE A MOVER FOR THIS RECOMMENDATION? I MOVE.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, THANK YOU, SECONDER, SECOND.

SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE, OPEN IT UP TO YOU, MR. HALLOCH, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU EVERY YEAR WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THE CAPITAL PROCESS WHERE IDENTIFY VEHICLES IN OUR FLEET THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.

THE VEHICLE HERE IS ONE TO BE REPLACED FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

THERE IS THE TRUCK THAT IS 2008 AND NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

THAT IS ON ITS FINAL LIFESPAN.

AND IT'S BASICALLY GOING TO BE AUCTIONED OFF AFTERWARDS.

OR WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S ANOTHER SPOT TO ACTUALLY PUT IT.

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WE'RE LOOKING AT BASICALLY THERE WAS A TENDER PUT OUT AND WE HAD TWO BIDS ON TWO BIDS THAT WERE SUPPLIED FROM LOCAL COMPANIES.

WE HAD A BID FROM FORD FOR FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND SIX DOLLARS PLUS PLUS TAXES.

WE ALSO HAD A BID FROM THE ALGOMA CHRYSLER AT FIFTY THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY ONE DOLLARS.

BASICALLY, WE WHEN WE WERE PLANNING FOR THIS ONE AND WHEN IT WAS APPROVED, IT WAS APPROVED FOR A BUDGET OF FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED FIFTY.

SO BOTH BIDS DID COME UNDER UNDER BUDGET AND.

FROM EVERYTHING WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, THERE WAS NO BID IRREGULARITIES AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE SALE.

BASICALLY, THE PURCHASE AND SUPPLY OF THE TRUCK FROM NORTH SHORE FORD AT FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND SIX DOLLARS.

AND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW, THE TRUCK AFTER IT'S BEEN ORDERED CAN BE DELIVERED WITHIN 12 WEEKS.

IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH.

IF YOU HAVE ANY ANY QUESTIONS AGAIN, JUST QUICKLY SAY YOUR NAME.

I'LL PUT YOU DOWN, YOUR WORSHIP, I HAVE A QUESTION AND A COMMENT.

COUNCILLOR MANN, THANK YOU.

YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU THE QUESTION, MR. HALLOCH, I WOULD ASSUME, BASED ON THE PUBLIC WORKS THIS PAST COUPLE OF PURCHASES, THIS IS A GAS UNIT, NOT A DIESEL.

CORRECT.

AND I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT, AND I REALIZE THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS ITEM OR THE NEXT ONE COMING UP, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE DEALING WITH WITH THE PAST HERE.

BUT IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF WE COULD STAGGER SOME OF THESE PURCHASES SO WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US TONIGHT OF A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR SIX VEHICLES.

I KNOW IT IS WHAT IT IS, BUT WE'RE REPLACING A BUNCH OF 2008 AND IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

BUT I GUESS THAT'S JUST MY ONLY COMMENT KIND OF MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I DO YOUR WORSHIP? MY COMMENT GOES TO IN THE BACKGROUND ABOUT THE VEHICLE HAS REACHED THE END OF ITS LIFESPAN AND EITHER WE AUCTION IT OR WE USE IT AT THE SASAKI PARK.

I SAY WE GET RID OF THE VEHICLE IF IS ACTUALLY AT THE END OF ITS LIFESPAN THAT WE HAVE TO REPLACE IT AND SPEND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS, I DON'T WANT TO BE MOVING IT TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT OR WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH THE SAME SCENARIO THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH ON OUR ROADS AND WE JUST KEEP REPLACING THE SAME VEHICLE TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

SO IF WE IF WE'RE BUYING A TRUCK TO REPLACE ANOTHER VEHICLE, THEN DODGE RAM FIVE SHOULD BE GONE.

I DON'T WANT TO BE MOVING IT TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT IT WAS IN THE BUDGET TO DO.

JUST SO I COULD JUST MAKE A COMMENT OFF, THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WHY IT WAS SUGGESTED IN THERE TO AS YOU READ THAT IS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S TRAVELED AROUND TOWN WHERE IT DID GO TO MISSISSAGI PARK COULD BE IN ONE AREA AND NOT SEEING ANY WINTER WEATHER ANY MORE AT THE BASIS OF WHAT IT IS, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY THAT'S IN THERE.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, NO.

ONE, IT'S PLANNED TO BE AUCTIONED OFF.

THEY QUESTION YOUR WORSHIP.

UM, JUST FOLLOWING UP ON A COUNCIL PATRIE'S, UH, COMMENTS, UM, I THINK WE DO NEED ANOTHER TRUCK UP AT MISSISSAGI PARK, BUT IF, UM, COUNCILLOR PATRIE FEELS THAT, UH, THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE, UH, IS HE GOING TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT, UH, MOVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION? I'LL MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT RAM FIVE BE AUCTIONED OFF.

IF THE MISSISSAGI PARK NEEDS A VEHICLE, PUT A VEHICLE IN THE BUDGET AND GET THEM A VEHICLE, THAT'S NOT AT THE END OF ITS LIFESPAN.

ACTUALLY, AMENDMENTS NOT REQUIRED BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE RECOMMENDATION, IT'S JUST WITHIN THE REPORT.

THE RECOMMENDATION IS JUST FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE TRUCK, THE IDEA OF MOVING IT TO THE PARKS IS DOWN LOWER IN THE REPORT.

BUT IT'S NOT IN THE ACTUAL MOTION.

SO NO AMENDMENT REQUIRED THERE.

I HAVE A QUESTION YOUR WORSHIP, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. TURNER, YES, THANK YOU, MR. HOLLACH, AND HOPE THAT THIS TRUCK IS ESSENTIALLY IT'S USED FOR SUMMER WORK.

SO FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AND THEN WHAT DO WE DO WITH IT?

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TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, IT'S USED IN THE WINTER AS WELL, A LOT OF TIMES LIKE WHERE WE'RE AT A POINT RIGHT NOW WITH VEHICLES THAT, THIS TRUCKS ALSO USED IN THE WINTER, NOT AS HEAVILY SO MAJORITY OF ITS OF THE USE IS IN THE SUMMER WHEN WHEN IT'S PULLING AROUND THE TRAILERS WITH WITH A LOT OF THE LAWNMOWERS AND STUFF.

AND AND, OF COURSE, THE STUDENTS.

THAT'S WHY WE GET THE CREW CABS.

BUT IT IS STILL USED IN THE WINTER AS WELL.

THE ONLY THING I WAS SUGGESTING WITH THE MISSISSAGI PARK IS THAT IT WOULD BE LESS WINTER WEATHER AND CONDITIONS IF IT WAS OUT THERE AND JUST DIRECTLY AT THE PARK USED TO RECORD THE PARK.

SO OTHER THAN THAT, THE PLAN WAS ORIGINALLY TO AUCTION IT OFF.

IT WAS JUST AN IDEA THAT IF COUNCILS WILL COUNCILLOR, WE CAN DO THAT.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS LATER ON AS WELL.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT GOING UP TO THE PARK FOR.

THE REST OF THE SUMMER BEFORE YOU GET RID OF IT, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE VEHICLE WAS GOING TO BE USED FOR IN THE WINTER.

YEAH.

THANKS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS REPORT? HEARING NONE GO WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE, I'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR TURNER IN FAVOR.

AND I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED.

6.5 REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, THE PURCHASE AND SUPPLY OF FIVE 1/2 TON FOUR BY FOUR CREW CAB SERVICE TRUCKS, RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF REPORT FLT 202101 DATED APRIL 6 2021 OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED AND THAT CAN CONTRACT NUMBER FLT 202101 FOR THE PURCHASE AND DELIVERY OF FIVE 1/2 TON FOUR BY FOUR CREW CAB SERVICE TRUCKS IN THE AMOUNT OF TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY FIVE DOLLARS PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES BE AWARDED TO NORTHSHORE FORD INC..

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE SECONDER.

I MOVE.

I'LL SECOND IT.

SECOND, BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. HALLOCH, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU AGAIN, THROUGH THE CAPITAL BUDGETING PROCESS, IT WAS IDENTIFIED AND THIS IS THROUGH SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS, NOT JUST THE PUBLIC WORKS, THERE'S ALSO ONE FOR THE THE PLANNING AND BYLAW DEPARTMENT AS WELL FOR THE CHIEF BUILDING INSPECTOR.

IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT VEHICLES.

SO WE WRAP THEM ALL UP INTO ONE BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE SIMILAR VEHICLES TO BE REPLACED.

SO WE HAD A TENDER PUT OUT AND THERE WAS TWO BIDS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.

WE RECEIVED A BID FROM NORTHSHORE FORD AT FORTY FOUR THOUSAND FORTY NINE WAS THE INDIVIDUAL PRICE OF THE VEHICLE.

SO WHILE FIVE TOTALING TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY FIVE DOLLARS OKLAHOMA CHRYSLER ALSO PUT IN A BID WHERE THE VEHICLES WERE FORTY SIX THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED EIGHTY EIGHT DOLLARS APIECE AND THEY CAME UP TO TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED FORTY.

BASICALLY, THE LOWEST BID RECEIVED WAS ABOVE THE 2021 CAPITAL PROJECT BUDGETED AMOUNT OF TWO HUNDRED TEN THOUSAND PER UNIT.

WE ARE ABLE TO TALK TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

WE WOULD BE TAKING THE REMAINING AMOUNT OF TEN THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED FORTY FOUR OUT OF THE ACTUAL FLEET RESERVE.

AND JUST SO WE'RE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, WHEN WE SUMMARIZE THAT AT THE TOP WITH THE ACTUAL UNITS BEING REPLACED, WILL BE AGAIN A 2008 TRUCK FOR THE PLANS DEPARTMENT.

THERE WOULD BE A CHIEF BUILDING INSPECTOR.

SO POSITION ONE FOR THAT.

THAT WOULD BE REPLACING ONE OF THE NITRO'S AS WELL, WHICH WILL BE GOING OUT TO AUCTION.

THAT ONE THERE WAS GIFTED OUT.

THE NEXT ONE WAS THE MANAGER OF FACILITIES OR PARKS THAT WOULD BE REPLACING THE OTHER 2008 NITRO, WHICH IS BEING AUCTIONED OFF THE AIRPORT ATTENDANT, AND THAT ONE WILL BE AUCTIONED OFF AS WELL, WHICH IS REPLACING, AGAIN, THE NITRO'S, WHICH WE WON'T HEAR ABOUT NITRO'S AFTER THIS YEAR AGAIN.

AND THEN PUBLIC WORKS STAFF.

THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS ALREADY TAKEN OFF THE ROAD LAST YEAR THAT HAD FAILED AND IT WOULD BE REPLACING THAT UNIT.

SO BASICALLY THAT'LL BE THE FIVE TRUCKS.

AND COUNCILLOR MANN IS CORRECT AFTER THIS.

WE'VE CAUGHT UP PRETTY MUCH WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S SURPLUSED IN OUR FLEET AND THIS WILL HELP US GOING FORWARD AND FOLLOWING A PLAN FROM THERE.

SO BASICALLY, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE PURCHASE TO

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NORTH SHORE FORD FOR THE FIVE VEHICLES AT TWO HUNDRED FOR THE FIVE SERVICE TRUCKS AT TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED FORTY FIVE PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES.

AND AGAIN, AFTER PURCHASE AND CONFIRMATION, THESE WOULD BE DELIVERED AND ARRIVED AT THE PUBLIC WORKS YARD FOR THE MECHANICS TO LOOK AT WITHIN THE TWELVE WEEKS.

AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE AS WELL.

OPENED UP TO COUNCIL, IF ANYONE'S GOT ANY QUESTIONS.

JUST A COMMENT, YOUR WORSHIP? COUNCIL MANN, THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP.

I JUST WANT TO THANK MR. HALLOCH AND HIS DEPARTMENT FOR LOOKING AFTER THE FLEET.

OBVIOUSLY, AGAIN, IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING WHEN WE'RE PURCHASING THIS NUMBER OF VEHICLES IN ONE CYCLE.

BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S GETTING RID OF A COUPLE OF THINGS.

AND AGAIN, HE CLEARLY MADE MADE IT QUITE CLEAR DURING HIS PRESENTATION THAT THE NITRO WORD AT LEAST WON'T BE BROUGHT UP IN THIS REGARD IN THE FUTURE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH.

ONE COMMENT YOUR WORSHIP.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE, I'M SURE ALL OF YOU ARE AWARE, I AM PLEASED I DON'T EVER WANT TO HEAR ABOUT ANOTHER NITRO.

I'VE BEEN HERE TOO LONG AND I'VE REPLACED TOO MANY OF THESE VEHICLES.

I THINK THE FIRST TIME THEY WERE REPLACED, AS THEY WERE FOUR YEARS OLD, WE HAD TO REPLACE THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT AS GOOD AS THEY WERE PROMISED TO BE WHEN WE PURCHASED THEM.

SO BUT THE COMMENT THAT I DO HAVE IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE BUYING HALF TON, FOUR WHEEL DRIVE CREW CABS.

THESE VEHICLES ARE NOW BECOMING VERY UNIVERSAL AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE WERE DEALING WITH WITH THE NITRO'S.

SO I'M VERY PLEASED THAT WE'RE STANDARDIZING OUR FLEET TO A UNIVERSAL VEHICLE THAT CAN BE USED FROM DEPARTMENT TO DEPARTMENT.

IF WE DON'T HAVE USE FOR IT IN THE SUMMER OR IN THE WINTER, WE CAN USE IT IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION YOU WORSHIP.

COUNCILLOR TURNER.

MR. HALLOCH, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHAT DO YOU ESTIMATE BE THE USEFUL LIFE SPAN OF THESE VEHICLES AND HOW MANY YEARS OR HOW MANY MILES OR KILOMETERS? WELL, SO WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE SO FAR AND THEN I CAN ANSWER THIS IN A FEW WAYS.

SO THE WAY OUR PROGRAM WORKS IS A LOT OF THE VEHICLES WHERE WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN STILL IF WE'RE ON THE PLAN AND WE'RE DOING THINGS RIGHT WHERE WE'LL BE ABLE TO TO AUCTION OFF VEHICLES WHEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY STILL HAVE A GOOD VALUE TO THEM OR AT LEAST SOME VALUE TO THEM.

SO THINGS ARE USUALLY SURPLUSED IN THIS RANGE OF SERVICE TRUCKS.

AT 10 YEARS, WE ARE DOING JUST SO COUNCILS AWARE.

WE ARE UNDERCOATING THE VEHICLES EVERY YEAR HOPING TO TO DEFEAT ANY OF.

PREMATURE, RUSTING AND STUFF LIKE THAT, SO 10 YEARS IS PROBABLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

AND AFTER THAT, [INAUDIBLE] WE ARE.

HE MIGHT NOT HAVE A CHOICE.

OK, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MR. HALLOCH? OK HEARING NONE ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE IN FAVOR.

COUNCILLOR TURNER, COUNCILLOR PATRIE IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED 6.6 REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, THREE YEAR SUPPLY OF SLUDGE HAULAGE SERVICES.

COUNCILLOR PEARCE FAVOR.

AND I'M IN FAVOR.

RECOMMENDATION AT STAFF REPORT ENV 202101 DATED APRIL SIX, 2021 OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED AND THAT CONTRACT IN THE 202101 FOR THE THREE YEAR SUPPLY OF SLUDGE HAULAGE SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF HUNDRED AND SIX THOUSAND ONE FORTY TWO PLUS APPLICABLE TAX WILL BE AWARDED TO GFL ENVIRONMENTAL INC.

CAN I HAVE A MOVER FOR THIS PLEASE.

SO MOVED.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH, ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU, I'LL JUST SUMMARIZE IT FOR EVERYBODY AT HOME IN COUNCIL.

SO BASICALLY THROUGH OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PROCESS, SOME OF THE END RESULTS WE END UP WITH, THE SLUDGE ENDS UP IN ONE OF OUR DIGESTERS.

SO WHAT HAPPENS FROM THERE IS WE HAVE THAT WEEKLY.

WE'LL HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SLUDGE THAT WILL BE PUMPED OUT AND BROUGHT OVER

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TO THE SLUDGE PITS THAT ARE OVER ON BUSH ROAD CLOSE TO THE AIRPORT.

AND THAT'S A DESIGNATED AREA FOR THAT.

ALSO, AFTER THE PROCESS OF EVEN WATER TREATMENT AND BACK WASHING YOUR FILTERS, YOU END UP WITH LIKE IT'S NOT QUITE LIKE A SLUDGE PROCESS, BUT YOU END UP WITH THAT.

SO ONCE A MONTH, THE SAME THING, THERE WILL BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT WILL BE PUMPED OUT OF THERE AND BROUGHT DOWN TO HORNE LAKE STATION AND ADDED TO OUR SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM AND THEN BE TREATED AT THE WASTEWATER PLANT.

SO THESE SERVICES ARE CONTRACTED OUT THIS YEAR.

THERE WAS A TENDER RELEASED AND WE ENDED UP HAVING TWO BIDS ON IT.

ONE WAS FROM BEAMISH CONSTRUCTION, ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEEN THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY TWO PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES.

ALSO, WE ENDED UP WITH ONE FROM GFL ENVIRONMENTAL AT ONE HUNDRED SIX THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED FORTY TWO PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES, THERE IS A TOTAL OF THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND INCLUDED IN THE 2021 BUDGET FOR THE PROVISION OF SLUDGE HAULAGE.

WE NORMALLY WITH A LOT OF THESE, WE PUT THEM INTO THE OPERATION BUDGET.

SO IT'S THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY DOLLARS MORE ON THERE THAT WE COULD THAT'LL END UP BEING COMING OUT THE ACTUAL OPERATIONAL BUDGET AND WE'LL BUDGET A LITTLE BIT HIGHER FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS AFTER TO COVER THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

PRICE WISE SO STAFFS ACTUALLY STAFFS APPROVING THE RECOMMENDATION PRESENTED IN THIS REPORT, THE CONTINUED OPERATION OF THE WATER AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PROCESS BY ENSURING THE PROVISION OF NECESSARY SERVICE, THE RECOMMENDED SERVICE PROVIDER MEETS ALL SPECIFICATIONS, THE REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED IN THE TENDER AND PROVIDED A PRICE JUST OVER THE ANNUAL BUDGETED AMOUNT OF THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE APPROVAL TO JFL ENVIRONMENTAL FOR ONE HUNDRED AND SIX THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES.

AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH, I'D OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY, I'M HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES SO I CAN ACTUALLY ONLY SEE YOUR SQUARE WHEN YOU MAKE A SOUND OTHERWISE, EVERYONE'S BLACK ON MY SCREEN.

NOBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

TAKING THAT THERES NO QUESTIONS I'LL CALL THE ROLL.

OK, COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

OH, I SAID NOBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE, THEN I'LL START WITH THE COUNCILLOR TURNER.

COUNCILLOR MANN IN FAVOR YOUR WORSHIP.

COUNCILLOR PEARCE FAVOR.

AND I'M IN FAVOR.

THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. HALLOCH.

6 .

7 REPORT OF THE COMMUNITY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.

VULNERABLE PERSONS REGISTRY FOR THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE.

WELL, THE RECOMMENDATION, THAT REPORT OF THE CEMC DATED APRIL 7, 2021 BE RECEIVED.

AND THAT COUNCIL SIGNED THE ATTACHED AGREEMENTS WITH THE SAULT STE.

MARIE INNOVATION CENTER TO PROVIDE A VULNERABLE PERSONS REGISTRY FOR THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE.

AND THAT THE NECESSARY BYLAW BE PREPARED FOR EXECUTION AT THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? SO MOVED YOUR WORSHIP.

SECOND, YOUR WORSHIP.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN, SECOND COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

GOOD EVENING, MS. ROBB, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

SO THE VULNERABLE PERSONS REGISTRY IS A FREE AND VOLUNTARY CONFIDENTIAL SERVICE OFFERED BY SAULT STE.

MARIE INNOVATION CENTER AND IS AIMED AT IMPROVING THE SAFETY OF RESIDENTS LIVING AT HOME WHO WOULD BE AT GREATER RISK DURING EMERGENCIES, SUCH AS PEOPLE WITH SEVERE DIFFICULTY, WITH MOBILITY, VISION OR HEARING AND OR DEVELOPMENTAL, INTELLECTUAL, COGNITIVE OR MENTAL HEALTH CONSTRAINTS.

SO KEY INFORMATION WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAMS DURING A LARGE SCALE EMERGENCY, SUCH AS IF AN EVACUATION WAS NEEDED AND THE METHOD OF RESPONSE WOULD BE ADJUSTED DEPENDING ON INDIVIDUAL NEEDS.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF AN APARTMENT BUILDING NEEDED TO BE EVACUATED AND SOMEONE WITH SEVERE MOBILITY WAS ON THE SEVENTH FLOOR, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE THIS INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME AND WOULD BE ABLE TO BE BETTER PREPARED FOR THE TIME.

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SO THE VPR COORDINATOR OUT OF THE SAULT STE.

MARIE INNOVATION CENTER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE REGISTRY.

THEY ADVERTISE THE PROGRAM ON BOARD NEW REGISTRANTS AND CALL ALL CONTACTS EVERY SIX MONTHS TO ENSURE INFORMATION IS UP TO DATE.

THEY WOULD PROVIDE REGISTRATION KITS AND PAMPHLETS TO THE CITY, WHICH WE COULD MAKE AVAILABLE AT THE FIRE HALL AND AT CITY HALL.

REGISTRANTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO FILL OUT THE FORM ONLINE OR MAIL IN THEIR INFORMATION, BUT THE VPR COORDINATOR IS THE MAIN POINT OF CONTACT AND SHE'S AVAILABLE BY PHONE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

HOWEVER, THE CEMC SO MYSELF WOULD BE THE LOCAL POINT OF CONTACT IF ANY FURTHER ASSISTANCE IS REQUIRED.

SO IF PEOPLE NEED HELP FILLING OUT THE FORM OR THEY NEED HELP MAILING IN THEIR INFORMATION, I CAN BE AVAILABLE IN PERSON.

SO THE CEMC WOULD ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR LOGGING INTO THEIR SYSTEM ONCE A MONTH TO DOWNLOAD THE UPDATED INFORMATION.

AND THIS INFORMATION WOULD BE STORED AT THE FIREHALL SO THERE IS NO COST TO THE MUNICIPALITY.

HOWEVER, THERE WILL BE SOME STAFF TIME REQUIRED.

SO IF THE ATTACH CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENTS ARE SIGNED, THE VPR COORDINATOR WILL BEGIN ADVERTISING THE [INAUDIBLE] IN ELLIOT LAKE AND PROVIDE THE CEMC WITH THE LOG IN TO THEIR WEBSITE TO START ACCESSING INFORMATION.

OK, THANK YOU, MS. ROBB, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS REPORT? IT'S COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

THANK YOU, SARAH, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I THINK THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING AND I THINK IT'S A VALUABLE PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED.

IS THIS IS THIS INFORMATION ABLE TO BE SHARED WITH.

SOCIAL WORKERS, C.O.P.P., IS THERE IS THIS JUST OWNED BY JUST THE FIREHALL OR IS IT INFORMATION THAT'S AVAILABLE TO ALL OUR PARTNERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? I KNOW THAT WHEN WE HAD THE GIS PRESENTATION YEARS AGO THAT THE VULNERABLE PERSONS REGISTRY WAS ALSO TO BE PART OF THE GIS SYSTEM.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT WILL GO INTO THE GIS SYSTEM ONCE IT'S DEVELOPED.

SO AT THIS TIME, THIS AGREEMENT IS JUST WITH THE CITY.

SO IF THERE ARE THIRD PARTIES INTERESTED IN RECEIVING THE INFORMATION, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SIGN A SUBCONTRACTOR CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT.

SO WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN RECEIVING THAT INFORMATION.

BECAUSE WITH OUR NEW PARTNER, WORKING SHIFTS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE COPP AND WITH THE PARTY COALITION AND THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND ALL THAT, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT INFORMATION FOR THEM TO HAVE AS WELL WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO A CALL FOR SURE.

AT THIS TIME, ONLY SAULT STE.

MARIE HAS THE VPR INTEGRATED WITH THE 9-1-1 SERVICES.

SO ITS POLICE, FIRE AND AMBULANCE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT 911 SERVICES HERE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT CAPABILITY AS WE ALL USE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS. SO FOR A REAL TIME EMERGENCY, IT WOULD BE A BIT SLOWER.

SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE GOING TO DO LARGER SCALE EMERGENCIES FOR NOW.

BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO LOOK INTO, TO MAYBE LOOK INTO THE AGREEMENTS THAT THEY COULD SIGN SO WE CAN PROVIDE THEM THE INFORMATION TOO.

IT'S CERTAINLY IS THE BEGINNING OF A GOOD SYSTEM FOR SURE.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. ROBB, I DO YOU WORSHIP? COUNCILLOR PATRIE, THANK YOU.

I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILLOR FINAMORE SAYS, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS READY TO BE DONE WITH COUNCIL.

I DON'T THINK IT GOES FAR ENOUGH IS THE PREDICAMENT.

WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT VULNERABLE SECTOR ISSUES FOR YEARS.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET VULNERABLE SECTOR NAMES THROUGH RETIREMENT LIVING THROUGH SOCIAL SERVICES.

WE'RE TRYING TO TIE THIS ALL TOGETHER AND NONE OF THIS INFORMATION CAN BE SHARED AT ALL.

SO I THINK THAT IT'S GOT TO BE ABLE TO BE PARTNERED WITH THE COPP.

WE'RE GOING TO BE COLLECTING INFORMATION TO GIVE TO THE INNOVATION CENTER THAT WE CAN'T EVEN USE FOR THE COPP.

IF PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO BE ON A VULNERABLE SECTOR DATABASE, WE CAN'T EVEN USE IT.

SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT START.

BUT I I'M NOT READY TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT.

I THINK THAT IT'S GOT TO GO BACK AND THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME MORE INFORMATION BROUGHT FORWARD AND EXPAND THE PARTNERSHIP.

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AND IF THE MUNICIPALITY IS GOING TO BE SPENDING TIME ON IT, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD WE HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF AVENUES THAT THAT INFORMATION CAN BE USED ON.

AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE ENCOMPASSING ALL OF IT TOGETHER IN ONE SHOT INSTEAD OF DOING THIS PIECEMEAL.

I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT THIS GET DEFERRED BACK TO STAFF AND COME BACK TO ANOTHER MEETING REFERRED BACK TO STAFF.

COUNCILLOR MANN, I THINK COUNCILLOR PEARCE, YOUR WORSHIP, CUT IN FOR ME, I'LL I'LL DEFER UNTIL HE SPEAKS FIRST.

THANK YOU COUNCILLOR MANN, THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP.

I DISAGREE WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE, I DISAGREE WITH WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE ON THIS.

UM, I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO DEFER THIS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

I THINK WE MOVE AHEAD NOW.

WE CAN MAKE AMENDMENTS.

I THINK MS. ROBB AND HER STAFF CAN WORK OR THE OTHER PEOPLE CAN WORK ON GETTING THE ADDITIONS THAT WE NEED.

BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILLOR FINAMORE HAS SAID.

THIS IS A VERY, VERY GOOD BEGINNING AND SOMETHING THAT'S LONG OVERDUE.

SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN MOVE AHEAD ON THIS THIS EVENING RATHER THAN DEFERRING IT.

COUNCILLOR MANN, THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP, I WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE'S COMMENTS.

MY CONCERN IS NOT WITH THE REGISTRY.

IT WOULD BE TRYING TO ADVOCATE TO INDIVIDUALS WHO BELONG IN THE REGISTRY THAT THEY BELONG IN THE REGISTRY AND DON'T FEEL, OH, I'M FINE, I DON'T NEED TO REGISTER.

I THINK THAT'S THE MORE CONCERNING POINT FROM WHERE I WOULD BE VIEWING THIS.

WE HAVE A COMMUNITY WHERE IN THE EVENT OF ANY EMERGENCY, WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S AT LEAST SOMETHING.

AND THIS IS A GREAT START.

IT MAY NOT BE PERFECT.

THERE MAY STILL BE LOTS OF WORK AND PARTNERS THAT WE CAN BRING INTO THIS.

BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW, THANK YOU TO THE INNOVATION CENTER.

THANK YOU TO MS. ROBB, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE.

AGAIN, TO ADVOCATE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT MRS. JONES DOWN THE STREET MIGHT BE SOMEONE THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM THIS WHEN MRS. JONES MIGHT FEEL SHE DOESN'T.

THAT'S THE PITCH THAT I THINK WE NEED TO EDUCATE AS WELL AS I'M ASSUMING THAT THE INNOVATION CENTER IS GOING TO BE DOING SOME OF THAT, AS IS DETAILED IN THE REPORT.

SO I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

WE NEED TO START BUILDING IT AND I THINK IT WILL GROW FROM THERE.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD.

I LIKE THE WAY WHAT COUNCILLOR MANN HAD JUST SAID ABOUT THE BUY IN, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHEN THE PARTNERSHIPS ARE GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NEED THOSE PARTNERS IN ORDER TO HELP ASSIST US IDENTIFY THE PEOPLE AND ABLE TO GET THE PEOPLE TO REGISTER.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP AREN'T OFTEN THE ONE THAT WILL RAISE THEIR HAND AND SAY THEY NEED HELP, BUT HOPEFULLY WITH LANDLORDS AND WITH THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES INVOLVED WITH ESPECIALLY WITH MENTAL HEALTH RESIDENTS, THAT THEY'LL STEP FORWARD.

AND I THINK THAT'S A NATURAL PROCESS WILL GO ON AFTER.

I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING TO DO IS TO GET THE REGISTRY AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO AND WHO NEEDS TO HAVE IT.

BUT I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT WE GET THIS REGISTRY STARTED AND THAT WE START REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE TO GET THEM ON THE REGISTRY.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

YOUR WORSHIP.

WHEN IT'S MY TURN.

GO AHEAD, COUNCILLOR CYR.

OH, I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF MERIT TO THIS PROPOSAL AND IDEA.

THE ONLY THING IS I MAYBE I MISSED IT, BUT.

MY ONLY CONCERN IS.

CONFIDENTIALITY.

WHO WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THIS INFORMATION? THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THAT THE REPORT THAT COMES TO COUNCIL IS VERY CLEAR AND CONCISE ON EXACTLY WHO GETS ACCESS TO THIS AT ALL TIMES.

BUT I THINK IT'S VERY MUCH NEEDED.

BUT I JUST I JUST WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS WITH THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF THIS.

ANSWER THAT.

SO IT WOULD BE.

HAVE ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION AT THIS TIME.

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WORSHIP, SORRY.

MOMENT, COUNCILLOR PATRIE, THAT THE.

IN THE FUTURE.

THE INFORMATION THAT'S GOING TO BE COLLECTED.

OH, SORRY, COUNCILLOR CYR, YOU WEREN'T FINISHED.

I JUST WANTED TO TO DEEPEN, WILL THIS ALSO BE SHARED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? IN THE FUTURE WITH THIS INFORMATION IF IT JUST STAYS WITH THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE PERSONNEL AND STAFF OR IF IT IF THERE IS ANY CHANCE OF IT BEING DISTRIBUTED TO OTHER PEOPLE, EVEN IF IT'S ALL DONE AND IN GOOD FAITH AND IN CONFIDENCE.

BUT I STILL WANT TO KNOW WHO WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE ACCESS TO THIS, EVEN IN EMERGENCY SCENARIOS.

SO IF OTHER AGENCIES WANTED THE INFORMATION, WE WOULD HAVE TO GET THEM TO SIGN A SUBCONTRACTOR CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT, BEFORE WE DISCLOSED ANY INFORMATION TO THEM, BUT IDEALLY, I HOPE ANY OF US WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION DOWN THE ROAD.

I THINK.

BUT IF ANY AGENCIES WANTED THE INFORMATION, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SIGN A SEPARATE AGREEMENT.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.

WELL, THANK YOU.

CAN I JUST HAVE ONE LAST FOLLOW UP? IT DOES CLARIFY THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT STILL DOESN'T LEAVE IT OPEN TO ANY AGENCY THAT WANTS ACCESS TO A CAN GET ACCESS.

SO I STILL WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS RESTRICTED TO EMERGENCY SERVICES, NOT JUST.

YOU KNOW, NOT FOR PROFIT THE AGENCIES, AND I JUST I STILL WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CONTROLLED.

JOHN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO JUST SAY IT.

THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, COUNCILLOR CYR, THE INFORMATION THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE FOR THIS PART OF OUR REGISTRY WOULD BE ACTUALLY PUT IN OUR COMPUTER SYSTEM.

SO AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE IF WE HAD, HEAVEN FORBID, A FIRE IN 100 WARSAW.

WHEN WE TYPE IN 100 WARSAW AND ENTER IN OUR NEW SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE NOW, ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE VULNERABLE WOULD COME UP WITH THEIR APARTMENT NUMBERS WHERE WE COULD EITHER TRY TO REACH TO THEM, HAVE FIREFIGHTERS GO UP AND GET THEM OUT, OR TRY TO FIND A WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM, TO TELL THEM TO SHELTER IN PLACE AND GIVE THEM AND TELL THEM WHAT'S GOING ON.

THIS INFORMATION WOULD NOT BE SITTING IN A FILING CABINET IN THE FIRE HALL BY ANY MEANS.

IT WOULD BE IN THE SYSTEM.

AND THE ONLY TIME FIREFIGHTERS OR ANY STAFF MEMBERS WITHIN MY DEPARTMENT WOULD SEE IT IS ACTUALLY WE ARE GETTING THE CALL TO THAT ADDRESS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WOULD HELP US OUT, ESPECIALLY IF WE COME TO PREVENT A STRUCTURE FIRE AT A RESIDENCE.

THE GUYS HERE, BEFORE THEY LEAVE, THEY TYPE IN THE INFORMATION ON THE ADDRESS THAT THEY'RE RESPONDING TO, THEY WOULD PRESS ENTER AND SOMETHING WOULD COME UP TO SAY THE PERSON IN THERE IS HEARING IMPAIRED OR VISUALLY IMPAIRED.

SO WHEN WE GET ON SCENE, FIREFIGHTERS KNOW THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY EITHER VISUALLY IMPAIRED OR HEARING IMPAIRED WHERE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR US OR NOT GOING TO SEE US.

FIREFIGHTERS WILL GO AHEAD AND GET THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND BRING THEM OUT SAFELY.

SO THAT'S HOW THE INFORMATION IS GOING TO BE STORED.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SITTING IN A FILING CABINET WHERE ANYBODY CAN GO LOOK AT IT.

IT'S ONLY GOING TO COME UP WHEN THE ADDRESS IS PULLED UP ON THE SYSTEM TO RESPOND TO AN EMERGENCY.

MYSELF, PERSONALLY, LIKE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SHARING IT WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS, I FEEL THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WHETHER IT'S EMS OR OPP, WANT ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION, THEY SHOULD ACTUALLY SIGN THE AGREEMENT WITH THE ACTUAL COMPANY ITSELF, NOT THROUGH US.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT SYSTEM THAN WHAT WE WOULD HAVE.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET ALL THAT INFORMATION TRANSFERRED INTO, FOR EXAMPLE, OPP WOULD BE ALL TRANSFERRED INTO THE KIND OF SYSTEM THAT THEY WOULD HAVE.

WHEN THE CALL COMES IN ELLIOT LAKE THEY WOULD KNOW OFFICERS WOULD KNOW THAT

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SOMEBODY WAS AT RISK TO [INAUDIBLE] OR SORRY ELLIOT LAKE AMBULANCE IT'D BE THE SAME THING.

ALL THEIR INFORMATION WOULD BE STORED AT THE CAC CENTER.

SO I SO PERSONALLY, I FEEL THAT IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ELLIOT LAKE TO HAVE A START AND THIS, WHERE IT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP OUR SERVICE, WHAT WE CALL THAT WE KNOW THAT SOMEBODY IS EITHER VISUALLY IMPAIRED, HEARING IMPAIRED OR HAVE MOBILITY ISSUES, BUT WE CAN ACTUALLY GO IN AND GET THEM OUT QUICKER.

SO THAT'S MY TWO CENTS ON THAT, BUT LIKE I SAID, FOR COUNCILLOR CYR, THE INFORMATION WOULD ACTUALLY BE IN THE SYSTEM, NOT IN THE FILING CABINET.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, YOUR WORSHIP.

FOR SURE.

THANK YOU, CHIEF COUNCILLOR TURNER.

AND THE REGISTRY IS GOING TO BE RUN BY THE INNOVATION CENTER.

BUT IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THAT INFORMATION IN.

INPUT THE INFORMATION, SEND IT TO THE INNOVATION CENTER.

AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO SEND IT BACK SO THAT WE HAVE IT ON THEIR COMPUTER.

WHY DO WE NEED THE INNOVATION CENTER? SO THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP.

SO THE INFORMATION, WE WOULD JUST HELP THE COMPANY IN THE SUIT TO RECEIVE THE INFORMATION ONCE THEY RECEIVE ALL THE INFORMATION OF THE VULNERABLE PEOPLE.

THEY WOULD SEND THAT IN A FILE THAT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY POPULATE OUR SYSTEM, WHETHER IT'S IT'S DONE ONCE A MONTH OR EVERY SIX MONTHS, LIKE MS. ROBB SPOKE ABOUT HOW THEY WOULD EVERY SIX MONTHS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT THE INFORMATION IS STILL CORRECT, WHETHER SOMEBODY MOVED OR PHONE NUMBERS CHANGED.

AND EVERY TIME THAT THEY DO THAT, THEY WOULD SEND A FILE TO OUR SYSTEM AND WOULD AUTOMATICALLY POPULATE OUR SYSTEM SO THAT WHEN OUR LETTERS GO TO A CALL, THEY HAVE THE CORRECT INFORMATION.

I GUESS WHAT I'M WONDERING IS WHY CAN'T WE POPULATE OUR SYSTEM OURSELVES.

IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF TYPING THE INFORMATION IN.

COUNCILLOR TURNER, THEY HAVE THEY ALREADY HAVE THE SOFTWARE TO DO THAT.

WE HAVE THE SOFTWARE THAT'S ABLE TO RECEIVE IT.

THEY ARE THE PRIMARY PERSON THAT'S GOING TO COLLECT ALL THE INFORMATION AND SEND IT TO US.

WE DON'T WE ONLY WANT TO KNOW.

WHO'S GOING TO BE A PART OF IT WHEN THEY'RE READY TO BE A PART OF IT BY US GOING OUT AND DOING IT WE ARE NOW WE'RE THE ONE'S KNOCKING ON DOORS.

WE ARE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THESE PEOPLE, THIS IS WHAT THEY DO.

I HIGHLY SUGGEST THAT WE LET THEM DO WHAT THEY ARE ABLE TO DO AND HOW THEY AND THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IT, AND THERE'S NO COST TO US WHERE IF MS. ROBB DOING IT IT'LL BE A LOT OF HOURS, A LOT OF TIME AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO GET THE INFORMATION.

THEY'RE GOING TO SEND IT TO US.

WE'LL PUT IT IN THE SYSTEM AND WE ARE READY TO GO.

WELL, THAT LEAVES ME WITH THE SAME CONCERNS COUNCILLOR CYR'S EXPRESSED.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT MEASURES THE INNOVATION CENTER TAKES TO SECURE THE INFORMATION.

I MEAN WE HAVE HACKERS KNOCKING ON [INAUDIBLE] DOOR.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY'D WANT THE INNOVATION CENTER, BUT I'D FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE ONCE WE HEARD FROM THEM.

I LIKE THE CONCEPT.

I LIKE THE IDEA, OF COURSE, GOING TO AN EMERGENCY AND KNOWING THAT THERE IS A VULNERABLE PERSON THERE THAT NEEDS SOME SPECIAL ASSISTANCE.

IT'S BRILLIANT.

AND OF COURSE, THAT INFORMATION SHOULD BE SHARED WITH WHOEVER IT IS THAT'S GOING TO AID YOU TO RESCUE THEM OR RENDER THEM ASSISTANCE.

I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE SECURITY OF THE INFORMATION THOUGH.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF THOMAS OR FOR MS. ROBB ON THIS ITEM? IF I MAY? COUNCILLOR PATRIE, THANK YOU, SO I WAS OPPOSED TO IT IN THE BEGINNING, BUT BASED ON THE COMMENTS BY MS. ROBB AND THE CHIEF, THAT WAS MY CONCERN.

WHAT WAS THE SENSE OF US DOING THIS? THERE'S NO TERMINATION TO THIS.

THERE'S NO WE WERE JUST COLLECTING INFORMATION AND GIVING IT TO THE INNOVATION CENTER.

IF THIS IS GOING TO BE AND ACCORDING TO THE REPORT, IT'S NOT EVERY SIX MONTHS.

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THAT'S WHEN THE VULNERABLE PERSON WILL BE CHECKED ON BY THE INNOVATION CENTER.

BUT IF THE INNOVATION CENTER IS GOING TO UPDATE US MONTHLY AND THAT'S WHAT THAT SAYS, IS THAT WE'RE TO LOG IN MONTHLY AND UPDATE IT.

IF IT'S GOING TO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

I WAS CONCERNED THAT THERE'S NO PARTNERS TO THE INNOVATION CENTER.

AND SO WE'RE GIVING THEM ALL THE VULNERABLE INFORMATION, BUT.

GOD FORBID SOMETHING HAPPENED AND, WHO KNOWS TO GET A HOLD OF THE INNOVATION CENTER TO FIND OUT WHAT IT IS.

SO IF IT'S AUTOMATICALLY UPDATED TO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT THE POLICE ARE CALLED, USUALLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS CALLED AS WELL.

SO IF IT'S ONLY AT OUR FIRE HALL, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

IT'S USUALLY WE HAVE ALL OF OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES WORKING TOGETHER, OUR AMBULANCE SERVICE, SO THE INFORMATION CAN GET THERE THROUGH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT QUICK ENOUGH.

HOPEFULLY, THE OPP AND THE PARAMEDICS DO BECOME INVOLVED WITH THE INNOVATION CENTER AND PARTNER AND HAVE THAT SAME DATABASE.

BUT THAT WAS MY CONCERN, IS THAT THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH PEOPLE GOING TO BE HAVING THAT INFORMATION.

BUT IF AT LEAST AS THE CHIEF SAYS, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AT ONE HUNDRED [INAUDIBLE] AND WE HAVE 32 VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN THAT BUILDING, HE KNOWS WHO THEY ARE.

HE KNOWS WHAT THE VULNERABILITIES ARE AND THEY CAN BE ADDRESSED ACCORDINGLY.

SO I AM NOW IN FAVOR OF THIS NOW THAT I'VE GOTTEN THAT EXTRA INFORMATION.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. MAYOR? IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTION.

I JUST I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THIS IS VOLUNTARY, THAT THE PEOPLE ARE VOLUNTEERING, TO PUT THEIR NAMES ON THIS LIST.

NOBODY'S GOING TO PUT ANYONE'S NAME ON THIS LIST THAT DOESN'T WANT IT TO BE ON IT.

I'M SURE THERE MIGHT BE OCCASIONS WHERE THERE MIGHT BE PEOPLE WHO HAVE POWERS OF ATTORNEY FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE THAT AREN'T ABLE TO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, THAT WILL BE PUTTING THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS ON THE LIST.

BUT THAT'S THEIR LEGAL RIGHT TO DO THAT.

AND I JUST THINK IT'S A GREAT THING THAT WE NEED TO DO.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING IT FOR YEARS HERE.

AND SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT THERE IS AN AGENCY IN THE NORTH THAT IS CAPABLE OF DOING THIS, THAT WE ARE THEIR PARTNER IN THIS.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THIS REPORT AND THIS INITIATIVE.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE COMING, ALSO SOMETHING THAT COULD END UP SAVING LIVES IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IT HAS OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH IN OTHER SECTORS.

SO I DO APPRECIATE THIS.

I'M GOING TO CALL AGAIN FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR TURNER.

THANK YOU AGAIN, CHIEF AND MS. ROBB.

SIX POINT EIGHT REPORT OF THE MANAGER OF RECREATION AND CULTURE EDITION OF NAMES TO THE MINERS MEMORIAL WALL 2021.

RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE MANAGER OF RECREATION AND CULTURE DATED MARCH TWENTY SIX 2021 CONCERNING THE ADDITION OF FIVE NAMES TO THE MINERS MEMORIAL WALL FOR 2021 BE RECEIVED AND THAT THE FOLLOWING NAMES WILL BE ADDED TO THE MINERS MEMORIAL WALL TO BE UNVEILED DURING THE DAY OF MOURNING CEREMONY ON APRIL.

TWENTIETH 2021 AT 11 A.M..

MR. JAMES, JIM HOBBS, MR. [INAUDIBLE], MR. OSWALD [INAUDIBLE], MR. LEONARD, ALEXANDER MCKAY AND MR. WAYNE DRYSDALE.

LOOK FOR A MOVER FOR THIS, PLEASE.

TURNER, I'D ASK IF MS. HENNESSEY'S THERE JUST TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE REPORT AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE.

IF THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DONE ON APRIL TWENTY EIGHTH OR NOT, I'D LIKE A LITTLE UPDATE ON THAT, IF WE COULD, TOO PLEASE.

EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO BACK IN 2007, WHICH IS WHEN THE MINERS MEMORIAL PARK WAS UNVEILED, THE MEMORIAL WAS DEDICATED TO THE WOMEN AND MEN WHO DIED AS A RESULT OF OCCUPATIONAL INJURY OR ILLNESS, WITH THE WHILE WORKING AT THE MINES IN ELLIOT LAKE.

AT A MEETING OF THE MINERS MEMORIAL NAME SELECTION COMMITTEE HELD MARCH TWENTY SIX 2021.

THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THAT THE FOLLOWING NAMES BE ADDED TO THE MINERS MEMORIAL WALL

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DURING THE DAY OF MOURNING CEREMONY HELD APRIL 28TH AT 11 A.M..

AND IT'S THE SAME.

THE FIVE NAMES MR. JIM HOBBS, MR. [INAUDIBLE], MR. OSWALD [INAUDIBLE], MR. LEONARD ALEXANDER MCKAY AND MR. WAYNE DRYSDALE.

THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE DAY OF MOURNING IS APPROXIMATELY SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS TO HAVE THE NAMES ENGRAVED UP ON THE WALL.

AND IT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE MINERS MEMORIAL NAME SELECTION COMMITTEE THAT THE FOLLOWING NAMES BE ADDED TO THE MINERS MEMORIAL WALL TO BE UNVEILED DURING THE DAY OF MOURNING, HELD ON APRIL 8TH AT 11 A.M..

AND AGAIN, IT'S MR. JIM HOBBS, MR. [INAUDIBLE], OSWALD [INAUDIBLE], MR. LEONARD MCKAY AND MR. WAYNE DRYSDALE.

SINCE THE SHUTDOWN OF THE DAY OF MOURNING OR THE PROVINCE.

THE DAY OF MOURNING LIES IN THAT TIME, WHICH IS THE 28TH OF APRIL.

SO WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE REACHED OUT TO LAURA [INAUDIBLE] BROWN BECAUSE AT THE SAME TIME AS THE DAY OF MOURNING, WE WERE GOING TO UNVEIL THE MINERS OR THE PROSPECTORS MONUMENT AND THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATE IS THE 14TH OF MAY.

SO I'LL BE SENDING LETTERS OUT AS LONG AS COVID BY THAT TIME IS LIFTED AGAIN AND WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE A CEREMONY.

SO THE ELEVENTH HOUR OF MAY 14TH, WHICH IS A FRIDAY, IS WHEN WE'LL DO OUR CEREMONY.

THE NAMES WILL BE GOING UP REGARDLESS BEFORE THE 28TH OF APRIL.

SO THEY WILL BE THEY WILL BE UP ON THE ON THE MINERS WALL, ALL FIVE NAMES.

SO AND IT'LL JUST BE A MATTER OF WHEN WE CAN ARRANGE TO HAVE THE CEREMONY AS LONG AS COVID IS LIFTED.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER.

IF I MAY, YOUR WORSHIP.

THE MINERS MEMORIAL COMMITTEE HAD A VERY FULSOME DEBATE ON THIS.

WE HAD THERE WERE A NUMBER OF NAMES THAT WERE SUBMITTED FOR VERY, VERY GOOD REASONS, ALL OF THEM.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE COULDN'T ACCEPT EVERYBODY.

BUT I THINK THE DECISIONS WERE NOT TAKEN LIGHTLY.

THEY WERE VERY, VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT, AND I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT THAT WENT INTO IT, NOT ONLY BY MS. HENNESSEY, BUT ALSO BY THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.

THE MOVING OF THE DATE, I GUESS, AT THIS POINT, IT'S AS MS. HENNESSEY POINTS OUT, IS DEPENDENT UPON WHETHER OR NOT WE GET TO.

WE GET OUT OF THIS LOCKDOWN SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN, BUT WE'RE ALL HOPEFUL THAT BY THE 14TH WE CAN DO THAT.

THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR MS. HENNESSEY IS.

SINCE WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING THE NAMES UP PRIOR TO THE 28TH, CAN WE UNVEIL THE STATUE OF THE PROSPECTOR, EVEN THOUGH THE OFFICIAL UNVEILING, AGAIN, WOULDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL THE 14TH? BUT I THINK.

A SHROUDED FIGURE STANDING THERE FOR ANOTHER MONTH AND A HALF, MAYBE A BIT DISCONCERTING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, SO IF WE COULD AT LEAST HAVE THE PROSPECTOR'S STATUE UNVEILED.

MS. HENNESSEY? ARE YOU ARE YOU TALKING PRIOR TO THE 14TH OF MAY OR ARE YOU TALKING NOW? BECAUSE IT'S JUST IT WOULD JUST BE TWO WEEKS AFTER THE DAY OF MOURNING, WHICH WOULD BE THE TWENTY EIGHTH OF APRIL.

SO WELL, LAURA, THE ONLY REASON I WOULD I WOULD SAY CAUTION ON THAT IS BECAUSE MS. [INAUDIBLE] BROWN WILL NOT BE HERE UNTIL THE 14TH OF MAY.

I MEAN.

IF I MAY, YOUR WORSHIP, WHAT I WAS SUGGESTING, DARLA, THAT THERE WILL BE AN OFFICIAL UNVEILING ON THE 14TH HOPEFULLY OF MAY, BUT THERE COULD BE WHAT YOU COULD CALL A SOFT OPENING PRIOR TO THAT, WHERE YOU TAKE THE SHROUD OFF OF THE STATUE.

THAT DOESN'T PRECLUDE NOT HAVING A CEREMONY ON THE 14TH WITH LAURA BEING HERE.

IT JUST IT MAKES IT A MUCH NICER PLACE FOR PEOPLE, FAMILIES TO GO TO, I THINK.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION? IS THERE ANY WORK LEFT TO BE DONE AROUND THE PROSPECTOR THAT IT CAN BE OPENED AND WITH NO FENCING OR ROPES AROUND IT? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S COMPLETELY FINISHED OR NOT.

THAT'S MY QUESTION.

AND I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HARM TO OPEN.

IF IT IS, I WOULD TO GET THAT WHITE PLASTIC OFF.

BUT WE CAN ALWAYS PUT A VEIL, PUT SOMETHING OVER IT WHEN LAURA COMES TO OFFICIALLY UNVEIL IT.

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BUT WE STILL MIGHT HAVE FAMILIES THAT COME ON THAT DAY TO SEE THE NAME OF THEIR LOVED ONE, IF YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF THEY CAN'T BE HERE THE 14TH OF MAY.

BUT FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO GIVE MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF THE GENTLEMAN MINERS THAT ARE ON THE LIST.

AND I'M SURE MS. MARTELL IS VERY HAPPY, SAD.

TO SEE HER DAD UP THERE, BUT SHE WORKED VERY HARD FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, SO I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE HER ON THE WORK SHE DID.

BUT I'M WITH YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

IF IT'S IF THE SITE IS AVAILABLE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE WHITE STUFF GONE.

AND WE CAN ALWAYS PUT SOMETHING NICER ON IT TO DO AN OFFICIAL OPENING.

MS. HENNESSEY? I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM LIFTING THE WHITE PLASTIC OFF OF THE PROSPECTOR AND THE WALL, AND IF YOU'D LIKE, WE CAN DO IT LIKE WE COULD REMOVE IT AS SOON AS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

BUT PEOPLE WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE CONGREGATING DOWN THERE WITH COVID AS IT IS.

SO, YEAH, I CAN DO THAT, BY ALL MEANS.

JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN AND WE CAN HAVE IT DONE.

OK, THANK YOU, MS. HENNESSEY, IS THERE ANY OTHER.

I DO.

QUESTIONS? COUNCILLOR PATRIE? THANK YOU.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I DISAGREE WITH UNVEILING ANYTHING, IT'S BEEN VEILED FOR THE ENTIRE WINTER WITH RESPECT TO SHOW THE RESPECT TO MS. BROWN, WHO HAS DONE ALL OF THE ARTWORK FOR US FOR THIS MEMORIAL PARK.

I WOULDN'T UNVEIL ANYTHING UNTIL SHE'S HERE OR AT LEAST ASK HER PRIOR TO US REMOVING THE VEILING THAT IS THERE.

WE'VE KEPT IT VEILED FOR A REASON, GOD FORBID, THE PROVINCE EXTENDS BEYOND APRIL 10TH, AND THEY MAY TAKE US ALL THE WAY TO THE 28TH.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT MS. HENNESSEY GET A HOLD OF LAURA AND ASK HER IF THERE ARE OTHER DATES AFTER THE 14TH IN THE MONTH OF MAY SO THAT WE CAN DO THE UNVEILING AND DO OUR.

CEREMONY, OUR MOURNING CEREMONY AT A LATER DATE, POTENTIALLY MAYBE APRIL 28TH MOVES TO MAY 28TH, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THE FAMILIES DOWN AND WE CAN HAVE THE PEOPLE DOWN TO HAVE A CELEBRATION OF LIFE, BUT.

I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH UNVEILING IT EARLY.

IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT CELEBRATION FOR THE COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS OVER THE YEARS THAT WE HAVE LOST.

SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THIS CEREMONY BE HELD WHEN WE CAN.

BUT AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP EVERYTHING VEILED UNTIL THAT CEREMONY TIME AND KEEP THIS AS IMPORTANT AS IT IS.

MS. HENNESSEY IS IT POSSIBLE AS COUNCILLOR PATRIE SUGGESTED, MAYBE CONTACTING MS. [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT HER FEELINGS ON REMOVING THE VEIL AND DOING.

AN OFFICIAL UNVEILING WHEN WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SO, I KNOW THE NAMES ON THE WALL IN THE PAST HAVE ALWAYS BEEN.

COVERED WITH A PIECE OF PAPER, BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE CARVED IN MUCH, MUCH PRIOR TO THE ACTUAL UNVEILING, WHEN WE REMOVE THE THE COVERING OVER IT, IT'S JUST WHEN WHEN IT CAN BE DONE.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THAT MS. HENNESSEY, WHETHER YOU CAN TALK TO MS. [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT THE SITUATION SO THAT WE'RE NOT OFFENDING THE ARTIST THAT'S WORKED SO HARD ON THE SITE? I'LL SEND I'LL REACH OUT TO HER TOMORROW IN AN EMAIL AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU AND LET YOU KNOW.

MR. MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO ADD WE NEED EXPLICIT DIRECTION TO CLARIFY IF MS. YEAH, SORRY.

SO I'M JUST I'D LIKE TO HAVE EXPLICIT DIRECTION WHETHER COUNCIL WANTS THAT UNVEILED BEFORE MAY 14TH OR NOT.

IF MS. [INAUDIBLE]SAYS YES, DO WE HAVE A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL SAYING WE SHOULD DO THIS? I HAVE CONCERNS FROM A COVID PERSPECTIVE THAT WE'RE ADDING ANOTHER REASON FOR PEOPLE TO GATHER.

SEEMS TO ME, WE WAIT A MONTH, BUT I DON'T WANT TO STRAY INTO COUNCIL'S TERRITORY.

BUT WE DO DEFINITELY NEED CLEAR, EXPLICIT DIRECTION ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THAT STATUE.

[INAUDIBLE] COUNCILLOR PEARCE, THANK YOU.

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YOUR WORSHIP, WHAT'S CALLED SOFT UNVEILINGS IS NOT AN UNUSUAL EVENT FOR STATUES.

IT HAPPENS PRETTY MUCH ALL THE TIME.

THE CEREMONY ITSELF IS A VERY SEPARATE EVENT.

THE NAMES ARE GOING TO GO UP IN ADVANCE, PUTTING PAPER OVER THE NAMES ISN'T GOING TO WORK OUT.

IT'S DONE UP FOR A MONTH IN THE WET KIND OF WEATHER WE HAVE HERE.

I'M NOT GOING TO GOING TO MAKE A MAJOR ISSUE OUT OF THIS, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING TO DO SO.

I WOULD DOUBT KNOWING MS. [INAUDIBLE] THE WAY I DO, THAT SHE WOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS.

BUT I AGREE WITH HAVING MS. HENNESSEY GOING OUT AND TALKING TO HER, SEE IF THAT IS A WORKABLE SOLUTION FOR HER.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M FINE.

THERE'S NO DISRESPECT EITHER TO HER OR TO ANYBODY ELSE INVOLVED IN THIS.

IT JUST THE QUESTION OF.

WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PLACE AND IN A VERY TOUGH TIME, AND IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT, THAT'S ALL.

AND MR. GAGNON'S QUESTION AS FAR AS THE CONGREGATING, IF WE END UP WITH MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF PEOPLE CONGREGATING AND NOT FOLLOWING THE SOCIAL DISTANCING PROTOCOL AT THE MINERS MONUMENT.

I IMAGINE WE'D HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING AS IN THE PAST AND CLOSE OFF THE SITE UNTIL THE STAY AT HOME ORDERS ARE LIFTED.

AND THAT'S AN ONGOING ISSUE THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD SINCE COVID BEGAN.

SO.

IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE MS. [INAUDIBLE]'S APPROVAL AND AGAIN, IF THIS CREATES.

IMPLICATIONS AS FAR AS COVID SAFETY PROTOCOLS AND THEN STAFF HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

MR. MAYOR? IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEP COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

WE DID SPEAK TO MR. ANTUNES TODAY WHO DID SAY THAT HE WOULD.

TO HONOR APRIL 28TH, WHICH IS THE DAY THAT WE REMEMBER THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE DIED IN WORKPLACE ACCIDENTS AND BECAUSE OF WORKPLACE ILLNESSES AND IN WORKPLACE ACCIDENTS.

SO WE ASKED MR. ANTUNES TO MAYBE GO AND HE SAID HE WOULD GO TRY TO DO A SHORT VIDEO, I THINK, TO PUT ON THE WEBSITE JUST TO HONOR THAT SO THAT THE SO WE DO REMEMBER THAT DAY, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T HAVE A PUBLIC SERVICE, THAT VIRTUALLY WE TAKE SOME TIME THAT DAY TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT IT IS A NATIONAL DAY OF MOURNING FOR THOSE THAT HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES THROUGH WORKPLACE INJURY OR ACCIDENT.

OK, THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

GOOD TO KNOW.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS REPORT? OK SEEING NONE AND HEARING NONE, CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

I'M OPPOSED TO IT BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT WE UNVEIL ON APRIL 28TH.

WE HAVEN'T CHANGED THE MOTION.

YOUR WORSHIP? YES, WHO'S SPEAKING.

THAT'S OK WITH THE MOVER AND SECONDER.

SO IN FAVOR AS AMMENDED.

FAVOR AS AMENDED COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDED.

SIX POINT NINE REPORT OF THE MANAGER OF.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST.

RECREATIONAL.

THAT IF THE ARTIST SAYS IT'S OK TO UNVEIL THAT PROSPECTOR, WE WILL UNVEIL IT AND WE WILL JUST WATCH THE CROWDS FROM A COVID PERSPECTIVE.

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WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE RESOLUTION NOW SAYS.

THE RESOLUTION IS SILENT ABOUT THE PROSPECTOR BECAUSE IT WASN'T CONTEMPLATED UNTIL COUNCILLOR PEARCE INTRODUCED THE CONCEPT, SO WE DON'T HAVE IT EXPLICITLY WORDED IN THE MOTION.

I'M JUST SUGGESTING WE CAN ALSO CATCH IT LATER IN THE COVID STANDING ITEM IF WE WANT TO TIGHTEN IT UP THERE.

I BELIEVE IT'S THE CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL.

THAT'S WHY I'M JUST.

I'M JUST CLARIFYING THAT IF THEY GET ENOUGH NODS, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'LL.

[INAUDIBLE] OF CAUTION.

THAT'S FINE.

BACK TO SIX POINT NINE REPORT OF THE MANAGER, RECREATION AND CULTURE, ADDITIONAL MEMBER TO THE MINERS MEMORIAL NAME SELECTION COMMITTEE, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT COUNCIL APPROVE ADVERTISEMENT TO THE PUBLIC FOR AN ADDITIONAL MEMBER TO BE ADDED TO THE MINERS MEMORIAL NAME SELECTION COMMITTEE, AND THAT THIS NEW MEMBER WILL MEET THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA, A PERSON REPRESENTING AN INDUCTEE OF A WORKER ENSHRINED ON THE MEMORIAL.

CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? I SO MOVE.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

MS. HENNESSEY, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

THE MINERS MEMORIAL NAME SELECTION COMMITTEE WAS ORIGINALLY INSTATED IN 2007.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMITTEE WAS TO REVIEW AND APPROVE INDUCTEE APPLICATIONS WHO WISH TO HAVE THE NAMES OF A LOVED ONE WHO HAS PERISHED DUE TO MINING RELATED INJURY OR ILLNESS ENSHRINED ON THE MINERS MEMORIAL WALL, AS PER THE GUIDELINES ESTABLISHED IN 2015.

THE COMMITTEE SHALL BE COMPRISED OF THE FOLLOWING THE MEMBERSHIP APPROVED BY THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AS A STANDING COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL.

A, WAS, IS A PERSON APPOINTED BY THE UNITED STEELWORKERS UNION.

B IS TWO PERSONS APPOINTED BY THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, C IS A PERSON REPRESENTING AN INDUCTEE OF THE WORKERS ENSHRINED ON THE MEMORIAL AND D A NON-VOTING CITY STAFF PERSON APPOINTED BY THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE.

AS THE COMMITTEE CURRENTLY STANDS, THERE IS AN APPROVED MEMBER, THERE IS AN APPROVED MEMBER FULFILLING EVERY MEMBERSHIP EXCEPT FOR ITEM C, WHICH IS A PERSON REPRESENTING AN INDUCTEE OF THE WORKER ENSHRINED ON THE MEMORIAL.

IT IS THE WISH OF THE MINERS MEMORIAL NAME SELECTION COMMITTEE TO COMPLETE THIS VOID WITH A NEW MEMBER WHO MEETS THE AFOREMENTIONED CRITERIA.

THE STANDARD COST OF THE ADVERTISING IS LOCAL NEWSPAPER IN [INAUDIBLE] CITY NEWSLETTER, AND IT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE MINERS MEMORIAL NAME SELECTION COMMITTEE.

THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE ADVERTISEMENT OF A NEW MEMBER OF NEW MEMBER TO BE ADDED TO THE GROUP WHO MEETS THE PROPER CRITERIA IS LAID OUT IN THE GUIDELINES OF THIS COMMITTEE.

MS. HENNESSEY, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? OK SEEING NONE.

ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR CYR.

[INAUDIBLE] YOU DID YOUR WORSHIP YES.

YOU'RE MISSING ME, IN FAVOR AND YOU'RE MISSING ME AND I'M IN FAVOR.

OK, THANK YOU COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

THIS IS LOVELY EVENING, I'M IN FAVOR ALSO.

COULD ONLY WISH THAT WE HAD A MUCH LONGER AGENDA.

SIX POINT TEN MEMO FROM THE DIRECTOR OF CLERKS AND PLANNING SERVICES, RESIDENTIAL LAND UPDATES, AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH POTENTIAL DISPOSITION OF LAND OWNED BY THE MUNICIPALITY.

IT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION AS PER SECTION 239 2C OF MUNICIPAL ACT.

MOVER TO PUT THAT IN CLOSED SESSION, PLEASE.

I SO MOVE.

BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

SECOND YOUR WORSHIP.

SECONDER? SECOND BY COUNCILLOR MANN THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE, LET'S START WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR CYR.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

COUNCILLOR MANN.

OK, COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

AND COUNCILLOR TURNER.

THAT'S CARRIED TO CLOSED.

AND I'M IN FAVOR.

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PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORT, SEVEN POINT ONE REFERRAL FROM THE BY LAW AND

[7. PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS]

PLANNING COMMITTEE, REVISED PROPERTY STANDARDS BYLAW, AND THIS ONE OVER TO YOU.

WE'D LIKE TO ADVISE THAT AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE BYLAW AND PLANNING COMMITTEE HELD ON TUESDAY, APRIL SIXTH, 2021, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION OF COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY THAT THE REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF CLERKS AND PLANNING SERVICES CONCERNING A NEW PROPERTY STANDARDS BYLAW BE RECEIVED AND THAT THE BYLAW TWENTY ONE DASH TWENTY THREE BEING A BYLAW TO ESTABLISH STANDARDS FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OCCUPANCY OF PROPERTY IN THE CORPORATION OF THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE BE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AND PASSING.

THE BYLAW 03-29 BE REPEALED AND I SO MOVE.

I SECOND THAT.

SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.

FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE BYLAW DEPARTMENT AND THE CLERK FOR THEIR EXEMPLARY WORK.

THEY'VE BEEN DOING [INAUDIBLE] SERVICE, TRYING TO UPDATE SOME OF OUR VERY, VERY ANTIQUATED BYLAWS.

AND IT'S NOT AN EASY TASK.

AND SO I THANK THEM FOR THEIR SERVICES IN THIS.

ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

THE PROPERTY STANDARDS WERE ESTABLISHED FOR THE SAFETY AND GENERAL REPAIR OF BOTH THE EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR BUILDING STRUCTURES SUCH AS FENCES, RETAINING WALLS, DRIVEWAYS, ET CETERA, ALTHOUGH A LARGE PART OF THE BYLAW REMAINS UNTOUCHED.

SOME IMPORTANT AUTHORITIES NEEDED TO ENFORCE THE SUBJECT MATTER WERE NOT PRESENT IN THE LEGISLATION.

REFERENCES TO REPEAL OR NON-EXISTENT ACTS WERE REMOVED OR REPLACED WITH THE APPROPRIATE LEGISLATIVE REFERENCES.

THE REFERENCE TO NOXIOUS WEEDS, WHICH IS SCHEDULE C, HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE BYLAW, LISTING THE NAMES OF WHAT IS CONSIDERED BY ONTARIO GOVERNMENT TO BE NOXIOUS WEEDS.

ESSENTIALLY, WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE IS A HOUSEKEEPING SITUATION WHERE WE'RE UPDATING AND MODERNIZING A BYLAW THAT HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED IN 18 YEARS PLUS AND.

I WON'T GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE ONE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH TIME, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OBVIOUSLY HAS BEEN DONE IS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT INCREASING THE FINES TO BRING THEM MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THEY SHOULD BE AND BEING MUCH MORE.

DESCRIPTIVE IN TERMS OF WHAT EXACTLY CONSTITUTES PROBLEMS UNDER THE BYLAW STANDARDS, SO OTHER THAN THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE CLERK IF SHE IF YOU HAVE ANY REAL QUESTIONS FOR HER ON THE SUBJECT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ON THIS? JUST ANOTHER COMMENT YOUR WORSHIP, IF I MIGHT.

OK THANK YOU THROUGH YOU.

COUNCILLOR MANN, YEAH.

THANK YOU, THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP, AND THERE WAS DISCUSSION AT COMMITTEE AS WELL REGARDING SOME OF THE FEES AND THE AMOUNTS, IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT, YOU KNOW, TO START THE PROCESS AND TO GET THIS MOVING TO MOVE IT FORWARD AS IT IS.

AND BASED ON THE INITIAL YEAR OF THE IMPLEMENTATION TO DISCUSS AT BUDGET AS PART OF THE USER FEE BYLAW, ANY CHANGES FOR NEXT YEAR FOR MANY OF THE BYLAWS THAT WE'RE DOING IN SOME OF THOSE FINES AS ASSOCIATED TO SO GET IT STARTED, REVIEW IT FOR A WHILE, AND THEN BASED ON RECOMMENDATION OR POTENTIAL CHANGES, DO IT AT THAT TIME, NOT TO DELAY ANY FURTHER DELAY ON THIS ON THIS IMPLEMENTATION.

SO JUST ANOTHER POINT.

I WANTED TO THANK YOU.

IF I MAY.

COUNCILLOR MANN.

YES, MS. BRAY.

SO, TO COUNCILLOR MANN'S POINT THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE COMMITTEE AND OUR BYLAW OFFICERS ACTUALLY HAD A TIME TO PUT TOGETHER A BIT OF A SLIDING SCALE.

SO WHILE THE LOWER INFRACTIONS WOULD BE A SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS FEE, THEY DID INCORPORATE A FINE SYSTEM THAT HAS THE LARGER INFRACTIONS AT A FEE OF THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS.

SO IF IT'S OK WITH COUNCIL, WE CAN PROCEED WITH THE FINES AS DETAILED THIS EVENING, OR I CAN GO BACK TO SEVENTY FIVE ACROSS THE BOARD.

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THAT WAS ONE OF MY CONCERNS AT THE MEETING AS WELL, SO I'M GLAD THAT STAFF HAS COME BACK WITH A SLIDING SCALE.

I DON'T AGREE WITH PUTTING A BYLAW IN PLACE.

THAT WE'RE PUTTING IT IN PLACE THAT WE WANT TO AMEND THAT THESE ARE LAWS.

THIS ISN'T JUST A POLICY THAT WE CAN DO A SLIGHT MANAGEMENT CHANGE WITHIN.

THESE ARE ACTUAL LAWS THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO PLACE.

IF THERE IS A FEE SCHEDULE AND THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR USER BYLAW, THESE ARE ACTUAL FINES.

BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FEE STRUCTURE THAT.

ENCOMPASSES MULTIPLE BYELAWS SO THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD.

I'LL GO BACK TO OUR USER FEE ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING FOR YEARS WHERE COUNCILLOR MANN AND I BOTH HAVE A PET PEEVE OF PHOTOCOPY PRICES.

THEY'RE DIFFERENT ALL OVER THE MAP.

IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FEES FOR AN INFRACTION, I'M FINE WITH IT BEING SLIDING.

IF IT'S GOING TO GO FROM SEVENTY FIVE TO THREE HUNDRED BECAUSE ONE BYLAW SAYS THREE HUNDRED AND ONE SAYS SEVENTY FIVE, BUT IT'S GOT TO BE ENCOMPASSED IN THAT BYLAW.

AND SO THE PREDICAMENT WE HAVE IS HOW.

MADAM CLERK, DO WE? APPROVE A BYLAW THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION IN FRONT OF US ON.

I'M IN FAVOR OF APPROVING IT WITH A SLIDING SCALE, BUT I'M NOT WILLING TO APPROVE IT AS WRITTEN.

THE DOCUMENT YOU HAVE TONIGHT HAS THE UPDATED FINE, FINE AMOUNTS.

IT WAS A QUICK TURNAROUND FROM BYLAW TO COUNCILLOR TO THE DEADLINE, BUT STAFF WERE ABLE TO SUBMIT THAT IN TIME.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE TONIGHT.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE FEES RANGE FROM SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS UP TO THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS, DEPENDING ON THE INFRACTION.

IF I MAY, YOUR WORSHIP, I JUST REINFORCE THAT I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP WHEN I WAS GIVING MY COMMENTARY, BUT AGAIN, I THANK THE STAFF FOR GOING BACK AND DOING THAT.

IT WAS A FAIRLY VIGOROUS DISCUSSION ON THAT SUBJECT MATTER AT THAT COMMITTEE.

MR. MAYOR.

INADEQUATE WATER SUPPLY FOR SANITATION, ONE HUNDRED AND FIVE DOLLARS, EXCEED MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY LEVEL TWO HUNDRED AND FIVE DOLLARS.

SO IT DOES SLIDE UP, IT IS ON HERE.

PERMIT STRUCTURALLY UNSOUND BUILDING THREE HUNDRED DOLLAR FINE.

IT IS INCORPORATED IN IN HERE.

WHO'S GOING? COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

SO WITH THE ASPECT, THEN WE HAVE FINES AND FEES IN HERE THAT AREN'T SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE'S NOW SAYING, THAT THEY HAVE CHANGED SOME FEE STRUCTURES IN THE BYLAW, BUT WE HAVE INCONSISTENT NUMBERS WHERE WE'VE GOT SEVENTY FIVE DOLLAR FINES REGARDING GARBAGE.

AND THEN THE NEXT BYLAW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A COUPLE OF DOWN THE WAY HAS DIFFERENT FINE STRUCTURES ON IT, SO WE'VE GOT TO STAY CONSISTENT, IN MY OPINION.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE HUNDRED DOLLAR, FINE ON ONE BYLAW, YOU CAN'T HAVE A SEVENTY FIVE DOLLAR FINE ON ANOTHER BYLAW.

IF I MAY REPLY.

SO I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE GARBAGE BYLAW AND THE NUISANCE FILE, WHICH ARE THE NEXT TWO BYLAWS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SPEAKING ABOUT.

FOR PROPERTY STANDARDS, WE HAVE IMPROPER STORAGE OF GARBAGE AND INADEQUATE GARBAGE RECEPTACLES, WHICH ARE COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THE FINES IN THE NEXT TWO BYLAWS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING.

YOUR WORSHIP, THANK YOU TO MS. BRAY, THE BYLAW OFFICERS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO DO THAT.

I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WRITTEN IN THIS DOCUMENT IS THAT FINES ARE INCREASED FROM 55 TO 75 TO ENCOURAGE COMPLIANCE WITHOUT BEING PUNITIVE IN NATURE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT, IS WE WANT PEOPLE TO START TO LEARN AND PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR ENVIRONMENTS AND HOW THEIR ENVIRONMENTS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT PROPERTY STANDARDS IS ABOUT, IS THAT WE LIVE TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY AND THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF ENCOURAGEMENT IN ORDER TO BECOME COMPLIANT.

AND I AM VERY GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON ALL THESE BYLAWS AND I

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APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT IS TAKING TO DO THIS.

AND I KNOW THAT THE ONES TONIGHT AREN'T THE END.

SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT WE KEEP THESE FLOWING AND KEEP THESE PASSING ALONG SO YOU CAN GET TO THE REST OF THE THOUSANDS OF THEM.

JUST A QUESTION FOR YOU, MS. BRAY, IF I MIGHT, LOOKING AT THIS, A LOT OF THESE SEEMED ALMOST LIKE THEY COULD BE DIRECTED AT A LANDLORD THAT'S NOT CARING FOR A RENTAL UNIT.

AND SO MY QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SEE SOME OF THESE INFRACTIONS COMPILE SO SAY UNSAFE HALLWAY, INADEQUATE HEATING SYSTEM, UNSAFE STRUCTURE, AS THE WOULD THESE COMPILE UP? SO YOU'RE SUDDENLY LOOKING AT SOMEBODY WHO'S RENTING A UNIT THAT IS TOTALLY UNSAFE TO INDIVIDUALS, COULD END UP WITH HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS IN FINES FOR RENTING A COMPLETELY UNSAFE UNIT.

SO, YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

THE FINES CAN DEFINITELY BE COMPILED AND FOR PROPERTY STANDARDS, IT'S ON THE OWNER, THE PROPERTY OWNER AND NOT THE TENANT.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS WITH WITH THIS BYLAW? HEARING NONE.

LET'S START WITH THE ROLL CALL VOTE AGAIN, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR TURNER.

OK, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

COUNCILLOR CYR HAS LEFT THE BUILDING.

COUNCILLOR CYR HAS LEFT.

LOSE COUNCILLOR CYR.

AND I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED.

SEVEN POINT TWO REFERRAL FROM BYLAW AND PLANNING COMMITTEE, A PROPOSED NUISANCE BYLAW.

AGAIN, COUNCILLOR PEARCE, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

WE WISH TO ADVISE THAT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE BYLAW AND PLANNING COMMITTEE HELD ON TUESDAY, APRIL 8TH OR 6TH I BEG YOUR PARDON 2021.

THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION TO COUNCIL THAT.

THE REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF CLERKS AND PLANNING SERVICES CONCERNING A PROPOSED NUISANCE BYLAW BE RECEIVED.

AND THE BYLAW TWENTY ONE DASH TWENTY FOUR BEING A BYLAW TO PROHIBIT OR REGULATE PUBLIC NUISANCES WITHIN THE CORPORATION OF THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE BE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AND PASSING.

AND I SO MOVE.

I WOULD SECOND, YOUR WORSHIP.

SECOND BY COUNCILLOR MANN THANK YOU.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, IF YOU WOULD, COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS TO, AGAIN, BRING INTO FOCUS SOME OF THE.

PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND AT THE SAME TIME, AS COUNCILLOR FINAMORE HAS POINTED OUT PREVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE PUNITIVE.

WE ARE TRYING TO JUST PERHAPS MOVE PEOPLE IN PROPER DIRECTION.

THIS IS A PROPOSED NEW BYLAW.

IT'S NOT REPLACING AN EXISTING BYLAW.

AND IT BASICALLY DEALS WITH THE BEHAVIOR OF PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY IN PUBLIC AND PUBLIC MEETINGS AND PUBLIC SPACES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

IT WILL DEAL WITH SUCH THINGS AS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE IT CAN BE ENFORCED BY THE POLICE, CAN BE ENFORCED BY OUR PROPERTY STANDARDS, PEOPLE AS WELL.

AND I THINK IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT WE HAD SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

CONCERNING SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT GO ON HERE IN PUBLIC ON OCCASION, I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE NECESSARILY.

DELIBERATELY TRY AND CREATE PROBLEMS, BUT SOMETIMES THEY DO, AND WHEN THEY DO DO THAT, THEN WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO ENFORCE IT.

AND I THINK THIS IS A VERY, VERY GOOD FIRST STEP.

THE BYLAWS OR THE PENALTIES CAN BE SEVERE IF YOU'RE, FOR EXAMPLE, GOING TO CAUSE BODILY EMISSION, I.E., IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE SOMEBODY THROW UP FOR CAUSE THEM TO BLEED, IF YOU'RE INTOXICATED IN A PUBLIC PLACE OR IF YOU COMMIT A LEWD ACT OR IF YOU

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COMMIT MISCHIEF IN A PUBLIC PLACE, THERE'S DIFFERENT SCALES OF FINES THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THIS.

AGAIN, COMMEND THE STAFF FOR WHAT IN MY OPINION IS A VERY, VERY SOLID BYLAW AND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT TO COUNCIL.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? IF I COULD JUST ADD TO COUNCILLOR PEARCE'S COMMENTS.

SO THIS IS BROUGHT TO THE BYLAW AND PLANNING COMMITTEE.

SO FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE WHO DIDN'T ATTEND THAT, THE MUNICIPAL ACT ALLOWS FOR A MUNICIPALITY TO PROHIBIT AND REGULATE PUBLIC NUISANCES.

AND ALTHOUGH THEY'RE NOT DEFINED IN THE ACT, IT'S WHATEVER COUNCIL FEELS IS OR COULD CAUSE A PUBLIC NUISANCE.

SO THE ITEMS LISTED IN THE BYLAW ARE JUST A STARTING POINT THAT OUR ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT HAS ISSUES WITH CURRENTLY AND THERE'S ALWAYS WE CAN ADD TO IT AS WE SEE FIT.

DURING THE MEETING, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN OVER THE CAMPING ON CITY PROPERTY.

SO AS WE'VE MENTIONED THERE, THAT WAS MORE TO NOT TO INFRINGE UPON FAMILIES CAMPING FOR THE WEEKEND OR HAVING A NICE CAMPING TRIP, BUT MORE OF A NUISANCE CAMPING.

BUT WE DID ADD THE DEFINITION TO CITY PROPERTY BEING THAT AS DESCRIBED IN THE URBAN MAP OF THE ZONING BYLAW AND I'VE ATTACHED THAT MAP TO THE PACKAGE, THERE'S A PURPLE OUTLINE WHICH IS IDENTIFIED AS A COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT AREA.

SO, AGAIN, WE AREN'T SAYING YOU CANNOT CAMP ON CITY PROPERTY.

YOU CAN WITH PERMISSION IT SAYS.

SO A SIMPLE CALL TO THE [INAUDIBLE] DEPARTMENT.

LET US KNOW YOU'RE THERE.

THAT'S JUST FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND IT'S ALSO WE CAN ENSURE THE AREA IS LEFT CLEAN LATER.

SO, YEAH, WE'RE FOCUSING MAINLY ON CAMPING THAT'S TAKING PLACE IN OUR PARKS, OUR BEACHES, OUR TRAILS.

SO MORE OF A NUISANCE CAMPING AND NOT NOT JUST YOUR FAMILY CAMPING TRIP.

OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE WAS SATISFACTORY TO THE COMMITTEE AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU, MS. BRAY, COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

SO CLARIFICATION TO THE CLERK SO THAT CITY PROPERTY, THE ATTACHED MAP, ALL OF THAT GREEN IS CITY PROPERTY ? YES, SO THAT IS CURRENTLY OUR URBAN MAP FOR THE ZONING BYLAW.

BUT IF YOU LOOK, IT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT TO SEE, BUT THERE'S A PURPLE OUTLINE SURROUNDING KIND OF MORE THE URBAN CORE, AND THAT IS THE AREA THAT WE WOULD BE FOCUSING MORE.

WHERE YOU WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED WITHOUT ADVISING, WE'RE NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T, THE BYLAW SAYS TO WITHOUT PERMISSION, SO JUST A SIMPLE CALL TO THE BYLAW OFFICE ADVISING THAT YOU'RE YOU WANT TO CAMP.

AND THAT'S JUST A SIMPLE WAY TO AVOID.

ENFORCING THIS BYLAW ON YOU.

SO, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THIS, IF I MAY.

I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING.

WHAT I WAS SAYING AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS CAMPING ISSUE.

IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T TELL PEOPLE THAT IT IS AVAILABLE TO CAMP, THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF TOURISTS THAT COME TO OUR MUNICIPALITY, CAMP DOWN SOME OF OUR LOGGING ROADS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT URBAN MAP, AND I JUST I DON'T WANT TO HINDER WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS KNOWN FOR.

SO I JUST I CAN'T BE IN FAVOR OF THE CAMPING PORTION OF THIS BYLAW, WHICH MEANS I ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE OPPOSED TO THE ENTIRE THING.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'VE TRIED TO TIGHTEN IT UP SOME, BUT THE PROBLEM IS PEOPLE THAT COME FROM OUT OF TOWN.

THEY COME AND CAMP, AND THE BEST EXAMPLE I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU IS THE [INAUDIBLE] BOAT LAUNCH BUSH ROADS THAT ARE BACK THERE, I'M VERY PLEASED THAT THEY CAN'T L ITTER BACK THERE BECAUSE IT'S COVERED IN GARBAGE CONSTANTLY.

BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DO COME AND CAMP IN THOSE LOCATIONS AND.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO OR THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW TO COME AND ASK, AND I JUST DON'T WANT OUR BYLAW GOING AND.

IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW POLITE THEY'RE IF YOU'RE GOING TO THROW SOMEBODY OUT THAT'S CAMPING IN THE BUSH.

TELL THEM THEY CAN'T CAMP THERE.

IT'S BAD FOR THE MUNICIPALITY.

SO I JUST I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF DOING THIS WITH THE CAMPING IN IT THE WAY THAT IT IS.

SORRY.

IF I MAY COMMENT, YOUR WORSHIP.

OK COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS HERE, SPECIFICALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE

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[INAUDIBLE] BOAT LAUNCH WHERE PEOPLE DO CAMP ON [INAUDIBLE], THAT IS NOT CITY PROPERTY.

THAT'S CROWN LAND.

THE I DON'T SEE TOO MANY PEOPLE GOING ALONG THE TRAIL AND CAMPING ALONG THERE.

IT'S PRETTY RUGGED TERRITORY.

I DON'T THINK BYLAW ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO GO DRIVING INTO LOGGING ROADS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE ARE CAMPED.

THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THE OF THE BYLAW.

IT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A COMMUNITY, THAT THEY DO HAVE TO HAVE PERMISSION TO CAMP ON PUBLIC PROPERTY.

AND IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

I THINK THIS IS A VERY, VERY GOOD BEGINNING.

AS WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE PERFECT THE FIRST GO AROUND, BUT WE ARE MAKING A VERY SOLID START TO IT.

AND AGAIN, I COMMEND THE CLERK AND HER STAFF FOR THE JOB THEY'VE DONE ON THIS.

IF I MAY SAY ONE THING AS WELL.

JUST FOR CLARITY, IF I MIGHT MS. BRAY.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT YOUR MAP HERE AND I CAN SEE THE PURPLE LINE THAT YOU THAT YOU PUT IN HERE KIND OF SURROUNDS THE URBAN, THE HOUSING AREA AND EVERYTHING ELSE LEAVES IT OPEN THE TRAIL GOING UP PAST [INAUDIBLE] LAKE AND UP TOWARDS THE [INAUDIBLE] BEACH AREA AROUND SECOND LAKE.

THERE IS A LOT OF OPEN AREAS AND I DON'T ACTUALLY SEE THE COMPROMISED AREA THAT COUNCILLOR PATRIE IS TALKING ABOUT, THE, YOU KNOW, THE LOGGING ROADS, THE ONLY ONE I'M AWARE OF THAT WOULD BE IT WITHIN HERE WOULD BE THE ROAD THAT WRAPS AROUND FROM BEHIND SCOTT ROAD GOING THROUGH TO THE SANDPITS BEHIND THE [INAUDIBLE] BOAT LAUNCH AREA SO THAT THE SANDPIT IS PRIVATELY OWNED AND THAT THAT TRAIL WRAPS AROUND AND COMES OUT AGAIN BY THE AIRPORT.

BUT THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN HERE.

YOU'RE KIND OF CROSSING OFF TOWARDS NORDIC LAKE AND THERE'S A LINE THROUGH THERE.

I JUST WANTED CLARITY ON THE AREA, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO HINDER PEOPLE.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE PEOPLE CAMP DOWN ON OUR BEACHES OR CAMP, YOU KNOW, FOR A WEEKEND RIGHT AT WESTVIEW PARK, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A FAMILY PARK AREA.

BUT WE DON'T WANT TO HINDER THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO GO AROUND SOME OF OUR SCENIC TRAILS EITHER.

SO JUST IF YOU CAN GIVE US CLARITY AS THE BORDERLINES I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL.

SO JUST TO BEGIN, I DIDN'T DRAW THE PURPLE LINE ON THAT WAS ON OUR ZONING MAP THAT PROVIDED WHEN WE HAD OUR BYLAW UPDATED THAT'S JUST CALLED THE COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT AREA.

AND TO COUNCILLOR PATRIE'S POINT, YEAH, WE WOULDN'T BE GOING OUT SEARCHING FOR PEOPLE CAMPING IF WE CAME ACROSS SOMEONE WHO WAS FROM OUT OF TOWN AND DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE RULES.

OF COURSE, OUR FIRST TOOL IS WE HAVE DISCRETION AND EDUCATION AND THOSE WOULD BE THE FIRST THINGS WE WOULD USE.

THIS IS MORE TO DETER THE PEOPLE THAT WERE SET UP AT THE BEACH CAMPING, HANGING THEIR CLOTHES FROM THE TREES, LIVING BEHIND THE WATER TREATMENT PLANTS LIKE THOSE KIND OF NUISANCE CAMPING.

SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TARGET ANYONE OUT HAVING A GREAT TIME WITH THEIR FAMILY.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KEEP THE BEACHES, THE TRAILS, THE PARKS FREE.

MR. MAYOR? COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

SORRY IF I JUST MAY BEFORE YOU, SANDY, SO MY PREDICAMENT GOES BACK TO [INAUDIBLE] LAKE AND THE BEACH AT [INAUDIBLE] LAKE AND THE BOAT LAUNCH AND THE CULVERT.

I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT.

LAST YEAR, PEOPLE WERE TOLD THAT THEY HAD TO MOVE, THEY HAD TO LEAVE, THAT IT WAS CITY PROPERTY, AND THAT'S THE PREDICAMENT THAT I'M HAVING NOW.

I DO SEE PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN PERIODICALLY IN THERE CAMPING BECAUSE I WALK IT.

SO I'M THERE EVERY DAY.

AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IT'S HAPPENING.

I JUST DON'T I DON'T AGREE WITH.

THE PEOPLE THINK THEY'RE IN THE BUSH, SO YOU GET SOMEBODY FROM SOUTHERN ONTARIO THAT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND OUR NORTHERN LIFE, THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS MUNICIPAL LAND.

AND THEN THE BYLAW GOES IN AND SAYS, YOU'RE NOT IN THE BUSH, YOU'RE ON CITY PROPERTY AND YOU CAN'T CAMP HERE.

SO THAT'S WHAT MY PREDICAMENT IS.

THERE'S A BEACH ENCOMPASSING ON THERE THAT A MULTITUDE OF PEOPLE CAMP AT.

AND THEN THERE'S SEVERAL PLACES THAT PEOPLE DO PULL IN WITH MOTOR HOMES AND SO FORTH AND TRAILERS AND DO CAMP AND THEY'RE WEEKEND CAMPERS USUALLY OR OVERNIGHT CAMPERS.

BUT THE PREDICAMENT IS THEY ARE CAMPING WHAT THEY ASSUME IS IN THE BUSH AND THEY'RE BEING TOLD TO MOVE BY OUR BYLAW DEPARTMENT AND THAT IS WITHIN THAT PURPLE BOUNDARY ALONG [INAUDIBLE] LAKE.

BUT JUST TO REPLY TO THAT.

MS. BRAY.

THANK YOU, SO WE DO HAVE DISCRETION, SO IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, BYLAW WOULD

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APPROACH THEM, SPEAK TO THEM, IF THEY'RE NOT FROM TOWN, THEY DIDN'T KNOW.

WE NOW HAVE THEIR INFORMATION.

WE KNOW THEY'RE THERE.

WE CAN ASK HOW LONG THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE.

WE HAVE IT ON FILE.

AND THAT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.

THIS IS MORE TO, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, TO GET THOSE NUISANCE CAMPERS WHO ARE.

MAKING THEIR HOME ON [INAUDIBLE] BEACH, SO WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT ABOUT TO GET THE FAMILIES WHO ARE CAMPING IN [INAUDIBLE] TOWN WHO DON'T KNOW.

SO ONCE WE KNOW THEY'RE THERE, THAT'S FINE.

WE'LL TAKE THE INFORMATION.

WE HAVE IT.

WE CAN CHECK UP LATER TO MAKE SURE IT'S LEFT NEAT AND TIDY.

AND THAT'S IT.

I'VE LIVED UP HERE FOR 42 YEARS AND PROBABLY FOR THE FIRST 20 YEARS OR BETTER, WE CAMPED ALL OVER THIS AREA AND WE NEVER CAMPED ANYWHERE THAT THE MINISTRY DIDN'T COME ALONG AND TELL US THE RULES.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP.

THERE WERE SOME TIMES WHERE WE WOULD ALL IN THE CIRCLE SWITCH SPOTS SO THAT WE HAD BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY DAYS, WHICH YOU HAD TO MOVE, YOU COULDN'T BE A PERMANENT RESIDENT, YOU'D MOVE ON TO ANOTHER LAKE.

YOU'D STAY THERE FOR ANOTHER 21 DAYS, I THINK IT WAS, AND THEN YOU'D MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SPOT.

SO THERE'S ALWAYS RULES.

AND I THINK ANYONE WHO CAMPS KNOWS THERE'S RULES, SO I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN UNREASONABLE BYLAW TO PASS, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REASONABLE PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH.

I THINK THAT THIS IS INTENDED MORE FOR NUISANCES.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT TOURISTS COMING TO OUR AREA, IF THEY CAUSE A NUISANCE, THEY SHOULD BE DEALT WITH.

AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN THEY WON'T BE.

AND THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

WE SEND OUT OUR BYLAW OFFICERS AND WE ASK THEM TO DO ACTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND WE GIVE THEM NOTHING TO DO THAT ENFORCEMENT WITH.

THIS WILL GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO USE TO GIVE AND ENFORCEMENT WITH.

PROPERTY STANDARDS LAWS AND IS IT'S A GOOD ACT, BUT IT TARGETS THE LAND.

IT TARGETS THE OWNERS AND NOT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY IN THE FACILITIES, RENTING OR WHATEVER.

WHERE THE NUISANCE, THIS NUISANCE BYLAW, WILL DEAL DIRECTLY WITH THE PEOPLE AND MAKE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS, IF YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE CAMPED WHERE YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE CAMPED, THEN YOU NEED TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND I'M SURE THAT THEY'LL BE HELPED ALONG TO A SPOT THAT IS NOT.

BEHIND THE WATER TREATMENT PLANTS IS NOT OK, ON OUR BEACHES IS NOT OK, PARKING YOUR TRAILER BECAUSE YOU USED TO LIVE HERE BESIDE THE [INAUDIBLE] STATION.

IT'S NOT OK TO PICK THE FINEST PIECE OF PROPERTY IN ELLIOT LAKE TO HAVE A GOOD VIEW JUST TO GO THERE AND CAMP.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ABOUT HERE.

THERE'S BUSINESSES HERE THAT HAVE TRAILER PARKS.

THERE'S THE CITY HAS A TRAILER PARK.

SO I THINK WE ALL JUST NEED TO LIVE BY THE SAME SET OF RULES.

AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD START.

DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T COME BACK AND LOOK AT THINGS IF THEY AREN'T WORKING.

BUT I THINK IT'S A DARN GOOD START AND I THINK IT'S LONG, LONG OVERDUE.

YOUR WORSHIP? COUNCILLOR MANN.

THANK YOU AND JUST TO COUNCILLOR FINAMORE'S POINT, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT COMPROMISE AT COMMITTEE WITH THE DEFINITION OF THE URBAN ELLIOT LAKE BECAUSE ORIGINALLY IT WAS ALL THE IT WAS ALL THE TOWNSHIPS.

YOU COULDN'T CAMP ANYWHERE.

SO WE DRASTICALLY REDUCED THAT AND CREATED WHAT WE FELT WAS REASONABLE.

I CAN SEE HOW COUNCILLOR PATRIE IS LOOKING ON THE MAP.

AND THE BOAT LAUNCH AREA IS STILL OBVIOUSLY CLEARLY AS PART OF THE URBAN AREA.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS A START.

AND OBVIOUSLY I'M HEARING FROM STAFF THAT DISCRETION WILL BE USED.

AND AGAIN, PUBLIC EDUCATION.

AND THERE'S STILL LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES OUTSIDE OF THIS PURPLE BOUNDARY TO ALLOW CAMPING.

THAT WON'T BE AN ISSUE FOR SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE FOR ANYONE.

IF WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT PEOPLE NOT KNOWING THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK OR CAMP THERE, CAN WE NOT PUT UP SIGNS THAT SAY NO CAMPING? IT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE THING TO DO.

COUNCILOR.

MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY.

YES, COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

QUICK QUESTION.

YEAH.

JUST IN RESPONSE TO THAT.

I BELIEVE THERE ACTUALLY USED TO BE A SIGN AT THE [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH, THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO OVERNIGHT CAMPING SIGNS ERECTED IN THESE LOCATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE'S NOTHING FOR BYLAW TO USE TO BEHIND THAT, TO ENFORCE IT.

SO NOW WE HAVE SOME ENFORCEABILITY FOR THOSE SIGNS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NOTHING, AGAIN, THIS WAS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED, MS. BRAY, THANK YOU TO YOU AND THE BYLAW TEAM.

AS I SAID DURING THE MEETING, I KNOW COUNCILLOR MANN BROUGHT IT UP, THERE WAS A COMPROMISE BECAUSE THAT IT KIND OF ENCOMPASSED THE TOWNSHIPS AND WE SAID, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES SENSE NOT TO CAMP WITHIN THE URBAN AREA.

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AND A LOT OF THAT IS NUISANCE CAMPING IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THE PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, SET UP IN ONE OF OUR PARKS OR BEHIND THE PUMP HOUSE AND LEAVE A BIG MESS AND BEEN CAMPING SINCE I WAS A TODDLER IN AND AROUND ELLIOT LAKE, AROUND THE WHOLE NORTH SHORE, BEEN UP EVERY ONE OF THE LOGGING ROADS, EVERY ONE OF THE TRAILS AND TENTING.

AND THE RULE THAT I WAS RAISED WITH YOU ALWAYS LEAVE A CAMPSITE CLEANER THAN WHEN YOU ARRIVED.

YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULDN'T BE LEAVING ANYTHING THERE.

AND IF YOU SHOW UP AND THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE'S GARBAGE, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

YOU TAKE IT HOME WITH YOU.

YOU LEAVE OUR LEAVE OUR FOREST PRISTINE.

SO I HOPE OUR VISITORS AND OUR RESIDENTS KEEP THAT IN MIND.

OUR FORESTS AND AREAS ARE PRISTINE.

WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THEM THAT WAY.

EVERYONE NEEDS TO DO THEIR PART.

AND AS I MENTIONED A FEW YEARS AGO, WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING SOME OF THE WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE LOST A FEW OF THOSE CAMP AREAS OVER THE YEARS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL, I'M GOING TO SAY, AT LEAST ONE HUNDRED MORE AREAS WHERE YOU CAN POP UP A TENT OR A CAMPER FOR A NIGHT OR TWO.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS MY KIDS ALWAYS DO IS THE MOMENT THEY GET OUT OF THE VEHICLE, EVERYONE DOES A LITTLE WALK AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE PICKING UP ANY ANY GLASS, ANY NAILS, ANY SHARP OBJECTS FROM THE CAMPSITE BEFORE WE EVEN SET ANYTHING UP.

AND THEN THEY DO IT AGAIN BEFORE WE LEAVE.

AND THAT'S TO ENSURE NOBODY GETS INJURED AND WE GET TO ENJOY THE LAND.

AND IT'S SAD THAT IT'S COME TO THAT.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS NUISANCE PIECE AND SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, KEEP HER CLEAN, KEEP HER CLEAN OR GET OUT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

SINCE THERE IS NO OTHER COMMENTS, CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE ONCE AGAIN.

SURPRISED THAT CAMPING WAS THE BIG ONE ON THIS BECAUSE THERE WERE 17 DIFFERENT NUISANCE PIECES ON HERE.

I'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

OK, THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR CYR.

COUNCILLOR PEARCE .

SAID IN FAVOR.

IN FAVOR YOUR WORSHIP.

THANK YOU I'M IN FAVOR.

REFERRAL FROM THE BYLAW AND PLANNING COMMITTEE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE GARBAGE BYLAW.

SEVEN POINT THREE.

THAT'S ME AGAIN.

AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

WE WISH TO ADVISE THAT AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE BYLAW AND PLANNING COMMITTEE HELD TUESDAY, APRIL THE 6TH, 2021, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION TO COUNCIL THAT THE REPORT, THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED AND THE GARBAGE BYLAW BE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, AND ADOPTION AND THE BYLAW 0574 BE REPEALED.

AND I SO MOVE.

SECONDER FOR THIS BYLAW? SECOND BY COUNCILLOR MANN.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, COUNCILLOR PEARCE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOUR WORSHIP.

THIS IS WHAT OUR FRIENDS IN THE CANADIAN PARLIAMENT CALL AN OMNIBUS BILL.

IT'S GOT EVERYTHING IN IT.

AND FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, I THINK IT'S AN EXTREMELY AMBITIOUS BILL THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY MR. HALLOCH.

AND I THINK WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS TURN IT ALL OVER TO HIM BECAUSE HE CAN EXPLAIN IT A LOT MORE DETAIL THAN I CAN.

OK THANK YOU.

THANK YOUR WORSHIP.

YEAH, I'M GOING TO GIVE SOME DETAIL ON THIS ONE JUST READ UP ON THIS ONE AS WE WENT THROUGH AND DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH ON IT.

SO I'LL JUST MENTION THAT IN 2017, THE ANNUAL LANDFILL REPORT STATED THAT THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE IS REQUIRED TO TAKE ACTION TO EXTEND THE LIFESPAN OF THE LANDFILL.

THIS REPORT CAME BACK COMPLETELY WITH ACTION ITEMS THAT THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AND THOSE INVOLVED WITH LANDFILL OPERATIONS WAS REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH, ONE OF WHICH INCLUDED STRENUOUS EFFORTS IN WASTE DIVERSION, SUGGESTING IN THE REPORT TO IMPLEMENT A RECYCLING BYLAW.

SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT THE LANDFILL, THE SORRY, LANDFILL IS CLOSED, WAS CLOSED, THEY WERE BASICALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF AN EXPANSION AS WE WE'RE CLOSE TO CAPACITY.

BASICALLY, THE CITY WOULD REQUIRE A NEW LANDFILL LOCATION.

AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE, WHICH WOULD ALSO CAUSE

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ENVIRONMENTAL ECOLOGICAL HARM, AS WELL AS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN CLOSURE COSTS OR SORRY FOR OPENING A NEW SITE AND THEN CLOSURE COST, AS WELL.

ENGINEERING DESIGN, QUALITY CONTROL, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS AND OVERALL CONSTRUCTION.

SO BASICALLY, WE COME DOWN TO THE EXTENSION OF THE LANDFILL THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, AS SUGGESTED IN THE ANNUAL LANDFILL REPORT.

CHANGED TO THE GARBAGE PILE ARE REQUIRED TO REDUCE THE QUANTITY OF WASTE ENTERING THE LANDFILL, AND MANDATORY RECYCLING SHOULD BE CONSIDERED TO INCREASE DIVERSION RATES AND MITIGATE THE LANDFILL FROM REACHING CAPACITY IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

SO BASICALLY, THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CURRENT BYLAW, WHICH IS THE GARBAGE BYLAW, WAS PASSED ON AUGUST 8, 2005.

SO THE FOLLOWING CHANGES ARE RECOMMENDED.

AN UPDATE TO THE LANGUAGE AND DEFINITIONS TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

MANDATORY RECYCLING FOR ALL RESIDENTS, INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL SECTORS.

THE ADDITION OF SET FINES FOR IMPROPER DISPOSAL OF WASTE, AS WELL AS A FEE FOR THE PICKUP AND DISPOSAL OF GARBAGE IN EXCESS OF THE LIMIT, AND THE INCLUSION OF A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF THE TYPES OF MATERIALS APPROVED FOR RECYCLING AND HAZARDOUS WASTE, AS WELL AS THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR THE LANDFILL.

BASICALLY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE LANGUAGE IN THE CURRENT BYLAW REQUIRE SEVERAL UPDATES DUE TO THE FOLLOWING FACTORS THAT NEED TO SEE THEM UP THERE IN THE ACTUAL UNIT HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.

BUT FIRST, THE BYLAW INCLUDES GENDER BIAS WORDING, WHICH IS DIRECTED SOLELY AT THE MALE POPULATION.

ADDITIONALLY, THE BYLAW REFERENCES THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS, WHICH WILL BE CHANGED TO A CITY REPRESENTATIVE OR DESIGNATE.

SECONDLY, THE MANDATORY RECYCLING FOR ALL LOCAL BUSINESSES WILL SUBSTANTIALLY DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF WASTE ENTERING THE LANDFILL.

THIS WOULD BOTH BE RESIDENT SORRY RESIDENTS AS WELL AS BUSINESSES.

THIRDLY, THE ADDITION OF SET FINES WILL ALLOW THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE BYLAW TO RECOVER SOME OF THE COSTS OF THE OFFICER AND ALSO RECOUP SOME OF THE CLEANUP COSTS.

FURTHERMORE, THE BYLAW PROVIDES RESTRICTIONS ON WEIGHT AND VOLUME, MAXIMUM WEIGHT OF 20 KILOGRAMS AND A MAXIMUM VOLUME OF [INAUDIBLE] METERS FOR GARBAGE PLACED AT THE CURB.

IT DOES NOT CURRENTLY INCLUDE LIMITS ON THE AMOUNT OF GARBAGE PLACED AT THE CURB EACH WEEK.

IMPLEMENTING IT TWO BAG LIMIT ON GARBAGE MEANS THAT RESIDENTS WOULD NEED TO ATTACH A GARBAGE BAG TAG TO ALL THE BAGS IN EXCESS OF TWO.

THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE WOULD SELL GARBAGE BAG TAGS AT A COST OF TWO DOLLARS EACH OR 20 PER BOOKLET.

THE TAGS COULD BE PURCHASED IN THE FUTURE, EITHER AT CITY HALL OR THE [INAUDIBLE] HALL, AND THEY WOULD START THAT SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER.

WHEN THE TWO BAG LIMIT GOES INTO EFFECT.

WE'D BE LOOKING AT JANUARY 1ST.

2022.

SO WHAT THIS BY COUNCIL APPROVING THIS, WHAT THIS ALLOWS US TO DO WITH SOME OF THE MEDIA OUTLETS WE HAVE, INCLUDING JUST HAVING FACEBOOK NOW SET UP ON FACEBOOK, IT'LL ALLOW US TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL BYLAW.

GETTING THE WORD OUT THERE ON EVERYTHING FROM ILLEGAL DUMPING AND THE COST THAT IT COSTS THE CITY TO PICK THINGS UP, AS WELL AS WE'RE GOING TO SET UP SOME NEW THINGS THAT ALLOW PEOPLE TO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE LANDFILL WHERE IT'S GOING TO TAKE IN A LOT MORE DIVERSION.

SO THERE WILL BE WOOD, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEPARATE WITH WOOD, ALL THE RECYCLING BINS WILL ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEONE WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY MONITORING IT IN THE FUTURE.

SO THAT'LL HELP WITH BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WITH RECYCLING, AS WE ALL KNOW, IS THE ACTUAL CONTAMINATION OF RECYCLING.

SO PEOPLE AREN'T DOING IT PROPERLY.

IT ALL MEANS WELL THAT IF YOU'RE BRINGING EVERYTHING DOWN THERE, BUT IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE PACKAGING IT IN WITH SOMETHING ELSE OR IF THERE'S DIRTY DIAPERS IN A BAG THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT IT IN WITH, THAT AUTOMATICALLY ENDS UP IN THE DISPOSAL OF THE LANDFILL.

SO EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON ALL OF THESE THINGS IS GOING TO BE MY IS GOING TO BE THE DEPARTMENT'S MAIN CONCERN MOVING FORWARD BEFORE THE JANUARY 2022 DATE WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO TO GET INTO THE TWO BAG LIMIT.

AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS AND WHY WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO PUSH THIS IS A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND IS THE COST THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

IF WE DO HAVE TO GO INTO A NEW LANDFILL AREA AND WE'RE TALKING THREE TO FIVE MILLION, AND THAT MIGHT BE ON THE SMALL SIDE OF THINGS.

AND WE'RE IN SUCH A SENSITIVE AREA THAT IT'S HARD TO PICK AN AREA THAT WORKS FOR THIS.

SO BY DOING ALL THE DIVERSIONS AND INCREASING OR IMPROVING OUR RECYCLING PROGRAM, THE TWENTY FIVE TO THIRTY YEAR PLAN THAT WE HAVE NOW AT CURRENT DISPOSAL RATES, WE COULD INCREASE THAT TO 50 YEARS OR EVEN BETTER SO.

BASICALLY, IMPLEMENTING THE UPDATED GARBAGE BYLAWS NECESSARY WILL ADDRESS CONCERNS RELATED TO OUTDATED LANGUAGE, AN OBSOLETE POSITION, TYPES OF GARBAGE PERMITTED FOR DISPOSAL, GARBAGE BAG LIMITS AND PENALTIES FOR IMPROPER COLLECTION, DISPOSAL REMOVAL

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OF WASTE WITHIN THE CURRENT GARBAGE BYLAW.

I'LL ALLOW YOU TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS.

AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT I DIDN'T TOUCH RATE 100 PERCENT ON, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE WANT TO BRING UP FROM THERE.

BUT THE MAIN HIGHLIGHTS WILL BE GOING TO A TWO BAG LIMIT, ALSO SETTING MORE DEFINITIVE FINES SO THAT THE BYLAW HAS MORE TEETH, THAT IF THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO OUT AND CHARGE, THEY CAN DO THAT.

AND THERE'S A THERE'S SEVERAL REASONS WHY STATED IN THERE.

SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

OK, THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH.

YOU DEFINITELY HIT AT HOME WITH THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WILL BE THE EDUCATION IS KEY TO GETTING THE WORD ACROSS.

WE ALL NEED TO DO OUR PART AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION BEFORE I HAND IT OVER TO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAS TO DO WITH SENIORS OR INDIVIDUALS POTENTIALLY WITH DISABILITIES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TWO BAG LIMIT, 20 KILOGRAMS. THAT'S FINE FOR BIG GUYS LIKE COUNCILLOR TURNER THERE.

BUT WHAT ABOUT, SAY, MY MOTHER, WHO LIKES TO USE THE NO FRILLS BAGS AS HER GARBAGE BAG? SO HOW DO WE GO ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO SOMEONE THAT USES THE NO FRILLS BAG AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, MY GOODNESS, WHAT I DO, I ONLY GET TO USE TWO BAGS.

SO HOW DO WE HOW DO WE HELP THESE THESE PEOPLE? AT THIS POINT, I WISH I ACTUALLY HAD MORE OF A DEFINITIVE ANSWER FOR YOU.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE FOLLOWING WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING ACROSS THE BOARD, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS.

WHEN PEOPLE DO RECYCLE, YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU END UP WITH LESS WASTE.

BUT IT IS COMING DOWN TO THE POINT WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES RIGHT NOW THAT ARE DOWN TO ONE BAG LIMIT AND IT IS A ONE FULL BAG, UNFORTUNATELY.

ANOTHER THING THAT RESIDENTS ARE NOTICING NOW, AND THERE WAS LETTERS HANDED OUT, IS COMING DOWN FROM THE CONTRACTOR THAT ACTUALLY DOES THE COLLECTION DUE TO COVID REASONING TOO.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY CAME ACROSS TO THE CITY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE PUT THE LETTER OUT TO EVERYBODY BECAUSE THEY WANT IT ALL IN ONE BAG SO THERE'S LESS HANDLING OF THE GARBAGE WHEN THEY'RE PULLING IT OUT.

AND I KNOW EVERYBODY LOOKS AT THE CAN EITHER PICK UP THE CONTAINER AND DUMP IT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

A LOT OF THE RULES IN FOR THE WEIGHTS AND STUFF ARE ALSO FOR THE DRIVERS THAT ARE THAT ARE PICKING UP THE UNITS THAT DON'T WANT TO HURT THEIR BACKS WHEN THEY'RE DOING THINGS LIKE THAT, TOO.

SO I DON'T HAVE A 100 PERCENT ANSWER IF SOMEBODY IS ONLY USING ONE OR TWO LITTLE BAGS, UNFORTUNATELY, AND IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO IF THERE IS A TWO BAG LIMIT.

YOU DON'T WANT TO BE DOING IT ON SMALLER BAGS LIKE THAT.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT IT IN ONE AVERAGE SIZE BAG, WHICH WHICH BASICALLY FITS INTO AN 80 LITER CONTAINER.

NO PROBLEM.

I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR FOR HAVING A SMALLER AND LIGHTER FOR YOU AT THAT POINT.

IT WOULD STILL NEED AT THIS POINT, IF WE DECIDED TO GO WITH THIS AND IT'S APPROVED, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE IT IN THAT ONE BAG UNIT, WHICH WILL HAVE TO BE AN AVERAGE SIZED GARBAGE BAG.

I WAS JUST GOING TO JUST SAY THAT THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A LIMIT, WE'RE NOT RESTRICTING THE AMOUNT OF GARBAGE YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE AT YOUR UNIT.

SO IF YOU DO HAVE IF IT CAME DOWN TO A WEIGHT THING, YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT OUT MORE CONTAINERS THAT KEEP IT LIGHT STILL.

IT'S JUST THE FACT OF THERE WILL BE YOU CAN PUT A BAG INTO TWO CONTAINERS.

WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY MORE THAN TWO BAGS.

IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATELY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TAG ON ANYTHING MORE THAN TWO BAGS.

A POSSIBILITY TOO IS TO PUT A LARGER BAG WITHIN YOUR OUTDOOR BIN, THROW YOUR SMALLER BAGS INTO THAT LARGER BAG AND AS IT GETS FULL, TIE A KNOT IN IT AND THEN YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.

ALTHOUGH I FAVOR THE I'M IN FAVOR OF THE CONCEPT AND I THINK EVENTUALLY WE NEED TO GET THERE, I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE YET.

YOU HAD A QUESTION.

MORE COMMENT.

I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS BYLAW ONLY BECAUSE THE WEIGHT LIMITS AND THE GARBAGE BAG LIMITS ARE NOT REASONABLE, CONSIDERING THE HOME PICK UP FOR RECYCLING IS ONLY BIWEEKLY AND THERE IS NO COMPOST OR WET GARBAGE MATERIALS BEING PICKED UP BY THE CITY TO HELP CITIZENS WITH ACHIEVING THE TARGETS.

THIS BYLAW WILL ONLY INCREASE ILLEGAL DUMPING AND INCREASE THE RECYCLING NEEDS OF PERSONS AT THE DEPOT, WHICH IS ALREADY INSUFFICIENTLY SERVICED.

TO ME RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS JUST A TAX GRAB AND WE'RE NOT GIVING PEOPLE ENOUGH HOME SERVICES TO PICK UP THE REST OF THEIR GARBAGE.

SO WE JUST PASSED THE GARBAGE BYLAW FOR ILLEGAL DUMPING AND THIS IS GOING TO GO DEAD SET AGAINST IT BECAUSE NOBODY'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPLY WITH IT.

JUST WITH EVERY TIME WE GO TO RECYCLING BLUE BINS AT THE DUMP, THERE ARE ALREADY

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IT'S BASICALLY A JUNK PILE THERE.

SO WE'RE NOT OPERATING AT A SUFFICIENT LEVEL TO MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL.

SO I THINK WE NEED THE FIRST.

INCREASE OUR RECYCLING SERVICE TO OUR CITIZENS BEFORE WE CAN START GOING THROUGH THIS KIND OF ENFORCED GARBAGE BYLAW.

WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

IF I MAY RESPOND TO THAT, SO I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH WITH A LOT OF THAT AND THE ONLY REASON WHY AND I DO REALIZE THAT YOU SAID THAT AND IT HAS BEEN OUT THERE WERE THE RECYCLING BINS HAVEN'T LOOKED.

AND SO IN THE FUTURE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, TOO.

SO ONCE WE HAVE SOMETHING, SOMEBODY THAT'S THERE ALL THE TIME, BUT RECENTLY THERE WAS THE RECYCLING BINS HAVE BEEN GOOD FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

AND I DO REALIZE THAT THEY WORK FOR THAT ONE PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN THAT SPECIFICALLY TAKES CARE OF THEM.

AND HE WAS OFF FOR A FEW WEEKS.

AND I DO IT.

I DO ADMIT THAT THAT WAS A BAD PERIOD OF TIME AT THAT POINT, IN THE FUTURE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING THEM PUSHED TO AN AREA WHERE THERE ARE WHERE THERE WILL BE SOMEBODY THERE THAT DICTATES WHAT GOES WHERE AND BASICALLY WHAT'S MIXED IN TO WHAT.

WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO TAKE THESE STEPS MOVING FORWARD.

AND I THINK WITH THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY DUMPING IN THE ACTUAL BUSHES AND STUFF AND ARE ABLE TO PUT THE STUFF INTO A VEHICLE AND DRIVE IT IN THERE, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A SET THING THAT I SAID AT THE LANDFILL OR WHAT THE CITY DOES IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT.

IT'S BEEN HAPPENING FOR YEARS.

IT WAS HAPPENING PRIOR TO WHEN THERE WAS EVEN FEES AT THE LANDFILL.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT RIGHT NOW, AT THIS POINT, WE'RE OFFERING BLUE BINS FOR FREE.

I KNOW AS A FAMILY OF FOUR, WHEN YOU DO RECYCLING, I'LL AGREE WITH YOU.

THERE'S NOT A COMPOSTING AT THIS POINT.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE INVESTIGATING INTO FOR THE FACT OF OF THE ANIMALS THAT WE HAVE AROUND, BEARS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO BUT OVERALL, IF WE RECYCLE AND EVERYBODY RECYCLES PROPERLY, I KNOW THAT IT DOES REDUCE THE ACTUAL GARBAGE DRASTICALLY, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO CHANGE WITH WHOSE ILLEGAL DUMPING RIGHT NOW.

THE OTHER THINGS THAT THIS DOES ADDRESS IS WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH AN ISSUE WHERE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY BRING THEIR PRODUCTS LIKE AND I KNOW WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME, SOCIAL MEDIA AND EVERYTHING, WHERE SOMEBODY DUMPS A FRIDGE, WHERE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO AND GET THE FREON TAKEN OUT OR REALLY COME UP WITH A THING WHERE SOMEBODY COULD BRING THAT FRIDGE STRAIGHT TO THE LANDFILL WITHOUT IT BEING TAGGED.

AND WE'LL COLLECT THEM IN A CERTAIN PILE AND IT WILL BE FOR A FEE OF 30 DOLLARS OR SOMETHING COMPARED TO WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.

AND I KNOW THE FEES ARE QUITE HIGH AND IT'S AN INCONVENIENCE, BUT WHEN YOU CAN DROP THEM OFF THERE, WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND TAKE THE FREON UNDER THEM ALL AT ONCE.

SO EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WHEN THEY START TO PILE UP, WE'LL DO THAT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO THERE'S OPTIONS IN THERE THAT WE'VE ADDED IN THERE AS WELL.

BUT OVERALL, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO START SOMEWHERE.

IF WE DON'T START DOING THAT AND MAKING THINGS LIKE THIS MANDATORY, I DON'T THINK THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE.

AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME DISPOSAL RATES AS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WHICH.

WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T RECYCLING AND JUST PUTTING EVERYTHING STRAIGHT INTO THE GARBAGE, SO.

YOU'RE WORSHIP, CAN I JUST RESPOND ? FOLLOW UP COUNCILLOR CYR.

MY CONCERN IS I PHYSICALLY GO TO OUR RECYCLING BINS EVERY SINGLE WEEK AND EVERY SINGLE WEEK, EITHER THE PLASTICS OR THE CARDBOARD ARE OVERFULL.

SO WE'RE NOT GIVING OUR CITIZENS ENOUGH CAPACITY AND ENOUGH SERVICE AS IT IS NOW.

THAT'S ONLY GOING TO BE WORSE IF YOU PUT THIS BYLAW INTO PLACE SO.

AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, FIX THE RECYCLING DEPOT FIRST TO INCREASE CAPACITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS, AND THEN IT BECOMES A LITTLE MORE ACCEPTABLE FOR THE CITIZENS TO SWALLOW THIS TAX GRAB.

MY QUESTION IS TO YOU, ARE YOU TALKING ON THE BUSINESS END OF THINGS, ARE YOU TALKING AS A HOMEOWNER BECAUSE WE HAVE THE ABILITY, THE CURBSIDE THAT GETS PICKED UP EVERY TUESDAY, SO EVERYBODY'S GOT THE OPTION TO PUT A CURBSIDE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING STUFF FROM YOUR PERSONAL HOUSE OR FROM THE BUSINESS.

SO IF WE MAKE IT MANDATORY TO RECYCLE, EVERYBODY'S GOT THE OPTIONS.

YOU CAN PUT AS MUCH RECYCLING OUT AT THE CURB EVERY TUESDAY IF YOU WANT, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OPTION, YOUR RIGHT TO GO TO THE DEPOT, WHICH IF IT COMES DOWN TO ADDING BINS OR HAVING MORE PICK UPS, THAT'S EASILY DONE.

WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE CONTRACT OF THAT RIGHT NOW, ACTUALLY.

SO IT'S GOT TO BE RENEWED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

THIS ALL HAS TO COME TOGETHER AT ONCE.

AND AND NEXT YEAR, THE OPERATION ON THE LANDFILL COMES UP AS WELL.

AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE LOOK AT.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE AND EDUCATION, PUSHING THIS ACROSS AND EDUCATING THE PEOPLE TO WHY WE'RE DOING IT IS WHY WE NEED THE TIME, ONCE THIS IS APPROVED TO LET THEM KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S THE BIGGEST COMPONENT OF ALL THIS.

THANK YOU, MR. HOLLOCH.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, AGAIN, ON THE EDUCATIONAL POINT, THERE IS NO THERE IS NO AND WON'T BE ANY MAXIMUM CAPACITY FOR HOW MUCH RECYCLING YOU CAN PUT OUT?

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CORRECT.

BY YOUR CURB.

OK, PERFECT.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT THIS.

I'VE READ THIS OVER, I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, I'VE TALKED WITH PEOPLE AND I'M OK WITH THE TWO BAG LIMIT, I THINK THAT WE ALL HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE.

MY ONLY QUESTION REALLY IS THAT THERE WILL BE FINES FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T RECYCLE.

HOW WILL YOU KNOW? THEY'RE NOT RECYCLING, AND THE REASON I ASK YOU THIS IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LIKE, I DON'T NECESSARILY STAY AT MY HOME FROM MAY TO SEPTEMBER, WHICH I DON'T REALLY WANT TO SAY OUT LOUD, BUT SO I DON'T HAVE GARBAGE OR RECYCLING OUT.

SO I KNOW THAT A GOOD WAY OF SAYING TELLING IF A HOUSE DOESN'T RECYCLE IS THAT THEY HAVE NO RECYCLING.

WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE GONE TO THE RECYCLE BINS WEEKLY OR IF THEY, HOW WILL YOU KNOW IF SOMEONE'S NOT RECYCLING? TO ANSWER, BASED ON WHAT A LOT OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO, IS THEY HAVE THE WRIGHT IN A LOT OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT THERE'S GARBAGE OUT AT THE CURB AND JUST GARBAGE.

A LOT OF THE LIKE YOU SAY, YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY GO TO A CLEAR BAG TO IDENTIFY IT.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES WHERE AN ACTUAL BYLAW OFFICER IS ALLOWED TO CHECK IN AN ACTUAL GARBAGE.

AND IF IT'S FULL OF CARDBOARD AND STUFF, THIS IS THE SAME THING WITH BUSINESSES.

THE ONLY REALLY WAY YOU COULD YOU COULD POLICE IT BUSINESS WISE IS TO ACTUALLY OPEN UP A GARBAGE BIN.

AND IF IT'S FULL OF CARDBOARD, THAT'S FULL OF RECYCLING, THAT'S HOW THEY POLICE A LOT OF THESE AS THE BYLAW OFFICERS TO TELL IF SOMETHING IS RECYCLING OR NOT.

WELL, RALPH OFTEN GETS ALL THESE NEW FANGLED PROGRAMS TO TRY OUT.

AND I REMEMBER WHEN THEY HIRED 13 POLICE GARBAGE, GARBAGE POLICE AND THEY WENT AROUND AND DROVE AROUND NEIGHBORHOODS AND CHECK GARBAGES.

AND IT WAS AT A TIME WHERE EACH HOUSEHOLD HAD TO HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT RECYCLING BINS.

THEY HAD WET, THEY HAD DRY, THEY HAD, IT WAS RIDICULOUS.

MY POOR MOTHER IN LAW WHO WAS IN HER 80S, WHO HAD RECYCLED LONG BEFORE ANYONE ELSE EVER DID FOR THE SAKE OF HER GRANDCHILDREN, SHE SAID SHE PHONED ME ONE DAY AND SAID, THE GARBAGE POLICE ARE HERE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

AND I SAID, TAKE YOUR FIVE BAGS OF GARBAGE AND DUMP THEM AT HIS FEET AND ASK HIM TO SHOW YOU HOW TO SORT THEM, BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THESE PEOPLE NEEDED TO HAVE DONE, WAS TO SOMEONE TO SORT.

SO I WOULD HATE TO SEE US GO TO THAT EXTREME EVER.

BUT WE DO NEED TO CHANGE THINGS.

AND I'M SORRY, DO RESPECT COUNCILLOR CYR, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT DUMP IN THE GARBAGE, THEIR GARBAGE IN THE BUSH ARE CRIMINALS.

AND IT IS NOT OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT'S FAULT, NOR IS IT COUNCIL'S FAULT FOR PASSING THOSE RULES.

THEY ARE CRIMINALS AND IT IS ILLEGAL TO DUMP AND LITTER IN THIS COUNTRY.

I'M PRETTY SURE IN MOST COUNTRIES.

AND WHEN WE PUT THESE INTO THE.

AT THE LANDFILL, WE GOT CALLED A LOT OF NAMES.

WE GOT TAKEN TO TASK BECAUSE WE WERE THE CAUSE OF ALL THE GARBAGE IN THE BUSH, BUT THOSE PEOPLE, IF THEY CAN DRIVE TO THE BUSH, THEY CAN DRIVE TO THE DUMP.

AND IT JUST INFURIATES ME TO HEAR PEOPLE SAY THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS RESPONSIBLE OTHER THAN THOSE THAT ARE DOING THE ILLEGAL DUMPING.

I DID LEAVE THE MEETING.

I DID GO PUT TWO BLACK GARBAGE BAGS IN MY EIGHTY LITER GARBAGE PAILS OUTSIDE, AND IT HAS WORKED.

WHEN I FILLED UP THE ONE BAG, I TIED IT AND I PUT ANOTHER BAG ON TOP OF IT.

SO ALL MY LITTLE.

NO FRILLS AND FOODLAND BAGS FROM MY LITTLE GARBAGE PAILS AROUND THE HOUSE FIT IN THERE JUST FINE AND I WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO PAY TO TWO TAGS EVERY GROCERY WEEK BECAUSE I'M ALREADY UP TO TWO BAGS.

BUT WELL, MAYBE I'M OK WITH TWO FOR TOMORROW.

BUT I THINK THAT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD, POSITIVE STEP.

WE HAVE TO ALL BE RESPONSIBLE, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.

LANDFILLS ARE NOT CHEAP AND WE DO NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO MOTHER NATURE.

AND WHAT WE ARE RETURNING TO HER IS ONLY WHAT SHOULD BE GOING BACK TO MOTHER NATURE AS WELL.

TURNER.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS, SOMETHING THAT FAMILIAR WITH THE HAPPENING ON OCCASION IS THAT THE OUR RECYCLING CONTRACTORS FIND THAT IT'S NOT WORTH THE PRICE OF COLLECTING ONE ITEM OR ANOTHER.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ENDS UP IN OUR DUMP.

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IS THIS STILL GOING ON? SO MY COMMENT TO THIS IS RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S NOT SHY AWAY FROM EVERYBODY KNOWING THAT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT A MARKET FOR GLASS.

SO MOVING FORWARD, WHEN WE GO TO RENEW OUR RECYCLING CONTRACT, THERE WON'T BE ANYBODY EVEN OFFERING TO PICK UP GLASS AT THIS POINT, WHETHER WE RESEARCH AND WE TRY TO FIND ANOTHER WAY OUT OF THIS.

WE WILL.

BUT MOST TIMES WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS, YOU'RE RIGHT, THE CONTRACTOR COULD PICK UP THE GLASS.

IT DOESN'T END UP IN OUR LANDFILL.

THEY'RE BRINGING IT OVER TO THEIR THEIR [INAUDIBLE], THE RECYCLING THINGS.

A LOT OF TIMES IT'S CRUSHED UP INTO THERE AND THEY SIT ON IT FOR A LONG TIME.

AND JUST FROM KNOWLEDGE AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT A LOT OF TIMES, BUT IT'S ENDING UP IN ANOTHER LANDFILL OUTSIDE OF A TOWN THAT'S NOT COMING BACK INTO OURS.

THEY ARE STILL PICKING IT UP.

AND I CAN GUARANTEE IT RIGHT AT THE END OF THIS ONE, WHICH IS IN A COUPLE MONTHS, THERE WON'T EVEN BE AN OFFER.

THERE WON'T BE ANY CHOICE OF WHAT TO DO WITH GLASS.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER BIG PART OF THE EDUCATION COMPONENT OF THINGS IS, IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE.

AND AS I'VE BEEN TELLING RESIDENTS AHEAD OF TIME AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING IS WE'RE GOING TO, AS I MENTIONED, IN SEVERAL MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD.

WE'RE TRANSITIONING INTO A NEW PERIOD OF TIME HERE WHERE ALL THE RESPONSIBILITY IS GOING BACK ONTO THE TO THE PACKAGING PLANTS SO THAT THEY HAVE THINGS COME BACK OUT AND THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE AN AFTERLIFE OR RECYCLE.

SO THAT'S ALL HAPPENING WHERE THEY'RE ABSORBING THE COST.

AND IT'LL BE UNIVERSAL ALL THE WAY THROUGH ONTARIO.

SO EVERYBODY WILL HAVE THE SAME RULES.

BUT YOU ARE CORRECT, WHEN THERE'S NO MARKET FOR THINGS LIKE THAT, IT IS STILL THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CONTRACTOR TO TAKE IT AWAY.

I CAN'T SAY 100 PERCENT WHERE IT ENDS UP FOR AT THAT POINT, BUT IT'S NOT IN OUR LANDFILL AT THAT POINT.

THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH.

I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT, YOUR WORSHIP THE THIRD AND FOURTH BAGS COSTING TWO DOLLARS.

THAT'S HARDLY WHAT YOU COULD REFER TO AS A TAX GRAB.

SOMEBODY COMING TO PICK UP YOUR GARBAGE AND TAKE IT TO THE DUMP FOR YOU.

AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S WORTH IT WHEN YOU WHEN YOU GO OVER THE TWO BAG LIMIT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ON THIS ONE? YOU'RE WORSHIP? SEEING NONE.

OH, I [INAUDIBLE] SEVERAL.

I THINK NORMAN MANN WAS FIRST YOUR WORSHIP.

OK COUNCILLOR MANN.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE, AND THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THERE IS SOME PRICE SENSITIVITIES TO A LOT OF OUR TAXPAYERS IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT THERE ARE THERE ARE WAYS TO MITIGATE THAT BY MORE DIVERSION IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

SO, YES, THERE IS A POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL COST, BUT THERE'S WAYS AROUND THAT AND IT'LL DEFINITELY TAKE SOME WORK.

AS FOR THE COMPLIANCE PART BEYOND BYLAW, I KNOW IN THE CASE OF BUSINESSES, THE MINISTRY OF THE ENVIRONMENT DOES SEND AROUND COMPLIANCE OFFICERS WHO DO ATTEND BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY AND WILL SHOW THEIR BADGE AND SAY, WHERE'S YOUR RECYCLING? I HAD AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION OF MEETING ONE OF THEM TWO SUMMERS AGO AND THEY'RE VERY CLEAR AND THEY KNOW THE REGS AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESSES IN TOWN.

THEY'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR GARBAGE PICKUP AND RECYCLING.

AND WE HAVE JUST GONE THROUGH AN EXERCISE WITH THE LANDFILL TO HAVE OUR PERMITS RENEWED.

IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG PROCESS.

AND AS I SAID, AT COMMITTEE, WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THAT DONE BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE BEEN WINDING DOWN THIS LANDFILL AND FINDING ANOTHER SITE.

AND I THINK AT THAT POINT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN POTENTIALLY TALKING ABOUT FURTHER DRASTIC POTENTIALS FOR THE BALANCE OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK WE'RE LUCKY.

I DO RECOGNIZE SOME OF THE COMMENTS BECAUSE IT IS A IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL MIND SHIFT.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE HAD TO DO THAT ON A NUMBER OF TOPICS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT THE BALANCE OF THIS PROVINCE HAS BEEN DEALING WITH FOR MANY YEARS.

AND I THINK NOW IT'S TIME THAT WE JOIN THAT AND STAND UP AND SAY WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.

AND YES, WE STILL HAVE A NUMBER OF MONTHS THAT WE CAN GET SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT COUNCILLOR CYR HAS A CONCERN, WORK ON THE RECYCLING DEPOTS, MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SUFFICIENT SPACE TO ENSURE THERE'S AVAILABLE SPOTS FOR FURTHER RECYCLING PRODUCT.

BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME TIME AND SOME EDUCATION.

AND I AT THIS POINT, I THINK I NEED TO SUPPORT THIS AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR BRINGING FORWARD IT'S IMPORTANT AND I THINK IT'S ULTIMATELY THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

COUNCILLOR CYR YOU HAD ANOTHER COMMENT?

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COUNCILLOR PATRIE WAS FIRST.

OK COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

CAN'T HEAR YOU CHRIS.

THERE.

NO ? MAYBE WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCILLOR PATRIE IN A MOMENT, COUNCILLOR CYR, WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCILLOR PATRIE, YOU'RE FROZEN ALSO.

MY, JUST MY FINAL POINT, I GUESS MY BIGGEST CONCERN HERE IS MORE OF THE WEIGHT LIMIT, THAT'S A BIGGER BURDEN FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE COMPOSTING.

THIS BYLAW IS BASICALLY IDENTICAL TO MANY MUNICIPALITIES, BUT A LOT OF THOSE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE COMPOSTING PICK UP AND WET PICK UP.

SO IF YOU REMOVE THAT WEIGHT LIMIT, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE'RE TALKING, THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING WITH GLASS.

SO IF GLASS FALLS OUT OF THE RECYCLING PROGRAM AND ENDS UP IN THE WASTE, PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO BE STORING GLASS IN THEIR HOMES FOR A YEAR AT A TIME.

SO MY BIGGEST PROBLEM HERE IS THE WEIGHT LIMIT, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT OFFERING PEOPLE HOME PICK UP FOR COMPOSTING, SO.

IT BECOMES A BURDEN ON THE HOMEOWNER TO KEEP THAT AMOUNT, ESPECIALLY ON PEOPLE WITH LARGER FAMILIES, ON KEEPING THEIR GARBAGE TO 20 KILOS.

WHEN WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A WET PICK UP, SO THAT'S MY BIGGEST PROBLEM, I THINK THE BAG LIMIT CAN BE ACHIEVED.

WITH INCREASED RECYCLING, I STILL HAVE GRAVE CONCERNS WITH OUR RECYCLING DEPOT THAT WE'VE HAD CONCERNS OVER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND THEY'VE BEEN SPORADICALLY ADDRESSED, BUT IT'S STILL INCONSISTENT.

SO BUT THE WEIGHT PROBLEM THAT UNTIL THOSE ARE ADDRESSED, I'M NOT SUPPORTING THIS.

I THINK WE HAVE TO UP OUR SERVICE LEVELS BEFORE WE CAN START PUSHING THROUGH A BYLAW LIKE THIS.

SO I KNOW WE NEED IT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE YET.

I JUST WANT TO DO A QUICK COMMENT ON THAT BEFORE MR. PATRIE WAS GOING THROUGH TO ACTUALLY GET UP TO THAT WEIGHT LIMIT AND WE PULL WE WERE DOING A LOT OF EXPERIMENTS ON A LOT OF THINGS WHERE WERE ACTUALLY GRABBED A FEW BAGS AND AND WE WEIGHT THEM OFF.

AND THEN WE SEPARATED THEM, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THAT PULL THE RECYCLING THINGS.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT, ONE OF THE HEAVIER PORTIONS OF IT IS THE ORGANIC STUFF AND THE WET FOODS AND STUFF.

BUT REALLY TO GET TO A 20 KILOGRAM BAG, THAT WAS A VERY HEAVY BAG, LIKE THE HEAVIEST ONE.

I THINK WE GOT TO IT WAS HONESTLY LIKE 18 POUNDS WAS THE HEAVIEST BAG THAT WE PULLED UP THAT HAD A FEW CONTAINERS.

MAJORITY OF THE WEIGHTS OF THESE FULL BAGS WERE FOR ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 15 POUNDS AT THE HEAVIEST.

SO IT IS A LOT OF WEIGHT THAT IF YOU WERE GOING TO PUT IT IN THERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY WOULD BE IN THE BAG.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT MIGHT HAVE TO BE FULL OF GLASS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT THE MAJORITY OF THEM WORKED.

IT IS QUITE HEAVY TO GET TO 20 KILOGRAMS TO GET TO THAT.

SO.

SO IS THE LIMIT 20 KILOS PER BAG FOR YEAH, NO, IT'S 20 KILOGRAMS. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU CAN FIT TWO BAGS INTO AN 80 LITER CONTAINER, WHICH IS YOUR YOUR MAX, THEN THEN FINE.

IF YOU COULD FIT THEM IN, NO PROBLEM.

THAT WOULD BE HALF BAG CAPACITY IF YOU WANT TO DO IT THAT WAY.

BUT IT'S 20 KILOGRAMS PER CONTAINER.

SO WHEN THEY GO TO LIFT IT, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE LIFTING ANY MORE THAN 20 KILOGRAMS FOR THEIR BACK PURPOSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND THAT'S FOR PROBABLY A HOMEOWNER AS WELL.

SO WHICH I BELIEVE I'M NOT TOO SURE WHAT WE SAID EXACTLY.

THAT WAS IN POUNDS BUT FIFTY OR 40 SOMETHING.

FORTY TWO POUNDS.

YEAH, WHICH IS THAT'S QUITE HEAVY AT THAT POINT WHEN YOU GET TO THAT.

BUT MOST OF THEM ARE MUCH LIGHTER THAN THAT FROM WHAT WE DID IN WITH RESEARCHING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? MEETING, COUNCILLORS CYR, I AGREE WITH PARTIALLY AND I HAVE A LOT MORE CONCERNS THAN HE'S ACTUALLY STATED.

TRY AGAIN.

NUMBER ONE, TWO BAGS AND IT'S NOT THAT.

FORTY FOUR POUNDS PER BAG ISSUE, 20 KILOS IS.

VERY SELDOM ARE YOU GOING TO GET 20 KILOS INTO A BAG OF GARBAGE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO

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HAVE TO HAVE A BAG THAT IS AN 80 LITER BAG TO GET THAT KIND OF WEIGHT, MY PREDICAMENT BECOMES.

WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG FAMILIES IN OUR MUNICIPALITY, AND I SAID IT AT THE MEETING, I HAD A FAMILY DOWN THE STREET THAT HAD EIGHT CHILDREN AND THEY WOULD HAVE SIX OR EIGHT RECYCLED BAGS OUT THERE EVERY WEEK, BUT THEY WOULD STILL HAVE GARBAGE.

AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO WHEN YOU HAVE 10 PEOPLE IN A HOUSEHOLD, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH A TWO BAG LIMIT.

SO NOW THIS YOUNG FAMILY IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE PAYING A FEE.

AGAIN SOME COUNCILLORS HAVE STATED THERE IS ONLY ONE TAXPAYER.

WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT.

BUT THE ASPECT IS WE HAVE TO RECYCLE MORE.

IT'S NOT A MATTER OF OF PUTTING FEES IN PLACE AND LIMITING WHAT PEOPLE CAN PUT IN THEM.

WE NEED TO AND I'VE HAD THE CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. HALLOCH AND I SAID TO THE COMMITTEE, WE NEED TO REACT WITH WHAT STEWARDSHIP ONTARIO IS SAYING.

AND ALL THE STUFF THAT CAN BE RECYCLED HAS TO GO TO RECYCLE.

WE'RE COUNCILLOR TURNER ASKED THE QUESTION IS, ARE WE TAKING EVERYTHING THAT SHOULD BE? WE'RE NOT.

I, FOR EXAMPLE, OFTEN.

SO I'LL GO AND TAKE THE CARDBOARD FROM MY BUSINESS TO THE RECYCLING DEPOT, AND THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE TRUCKLOADS OF STYROFOAM OR I'LL FILL MY ENTIRE BIN AT MY BUSINESS WITH STYROFOAM BECAUSE WE DON'T TAKE STYROFOAM, IT'S ALL RECYCLABLE.

THERE'S SO MANY ITEMS THAT WE'RE NOT RECYCLING AS A MUNICIPALITY IS THE ISSUE.

SO EVEN AT HOME, WE HAVE STUFF THAT COMES HOME EVERY WEEK.

I'VE GOT TWO TO THREE RECYCLE BINS OUT DEPENDING ON WHAT RECYCLE IT IS.

AND IF I HAVE STYROFOAM, I'M GOING TO FILL TWO OR THREE GARBAGE BAGS AND I DON'T HAVE BAGS BIG ENOUGH TO FIT ALL THE STYROFOAM IN.

I'M GOING TO HAVE A BAG TAG BECAUSE I'M FILLING BAGS THAT WEIGH TWO POINT TWO POUNDS.

NEVER MIND THAT THEY WEIGH 20 KILOS BECAUSE IT'S VOLUME.

SO WE HAVE TO FIX THE SITUATION INSTEAD OF CHARGING THE TAXPAYERS FOR IT.

THERE'S THAT ASPECT.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT BUSINESSES NOW HAVE TO RECYCLE.

I DON'T CARE.

I ALREADY RECYCLE AT MY BUSINESS.

BUT THE PREDICAMENT IS WE HAVE SOME BUSINESSES THAT ARE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT LOT COVERAGE AND SOME BUSINESSES THAT AREN'T.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES AS A MUNICIPALITY TO SOME BUSINESSES AND NOT TO ALL.

SO I SAID THAT AT THE COMMITTEE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FIX IT SO THAT IT'S AN EQUAL PLAYING FIELD AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

SO I JUST THERE'S TOO MANY THINGS THAT I DISAGREE WITH, WITH, AS COUNCILLOR PEARCE SAID, WITH AN OMNIBUS BILL, THERE'S TOO MANY CHANGES COMING IN HERE, ALL IN ONE SHOT.

THERE IS SOME STUFF IN HERE THAT I'M VERY PLEASED TO SEE.

AND THERE'S SOME CHANGES AND A LOT OF LANGUAGE THAT I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE.

BUT AS THE BYLAW IS SO LARGE AND THERE'S SO MANY ISSUES THAT I HAVE WITH IT, I CAN'T APPROVE IT.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO PROVE SOMETHING THAT WE SAY, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE IT TODAY AND WE'LL WORK ON IT.

WELL KNOW THIS AGAIN, I SAID IS A LAW AND YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A LAW IN PLACE.

IT'S NOT LIKE SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE SPEED LIMIT AT 70, BUT WE'RE GOING TO LET THEM DRIVE 80 BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY.

SO YOU PUT THE LAW IN PLACE, YOU ENFORCE THE LAW.

SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF DOING THIS.

SO JUST SO I CAN REPLY TO THE ONE ON WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, WITH THE RECYCLING MATERIAL, IT'S OUT OF ALL IT'S GOING TO BE OUT OF ALL OF OUR HANDS.

THAT'S GOING TO BE DICTATED TO US FROM STEWARDSHIP ONTARIO.

ONCE THE PROGRAM PASSES AND THEY TAKE OVER, THE COST OF EVERYTHING IN RECYCLING IS BACK ON THEIR WAY.

THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US A LIST OF EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE RECYCLED.

AND THAT'S THE LIST WE GO WITH.

I WON'T BE ABLE TO ADD ANYTHING, TAKE AWAY, THE CITY WON'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S COMING DOWN IN THE TRANSITION PERIOD, WHICH IS STILL A WAYS AWAY.

BUT I'LL AGREE WITH YOU ON THE STYROFOAM WHEN YOU COME UP WITH STUFF LIKE THAT AND SEE THAT.

BUT, YEAH, THERE REALLY IS THERE JUST NOT A MARKET TO DO IT HERE ANYWHERE IN THE NORTH.

THERE'S LOTS OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE BRING UP.

BUT OVER THE OTHER FACT OF EVERYTHING, I LIKE I SAID, MAJORITY OF THEM ARE PRETTY BASIC AT THAT POINT.

BUT WHEN PEOPLE ARE MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON RECYCLING, WHEN WHEN A GARBAGE PICKUP IS MUCH CHEAPER THAN A RECYCLING BIN TO BE PICKED UP.

AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY'RE THROWING THEIR CARDBOARD INTO A GARBAGE BIN TO BE DISPOSED OF AT THE LANDFILL.

WE WANT TO START TO CHANGE THAT TREND AND AND GET EVERYBODY ON BOARD.

THE OTHER FACTORS, TOO, IS THAT WE, THE CITY, THE TAXPAYERS PAY WHEN WE DO OUR GARBAGE IN BYLAW AND IT'S ALL PASSED AND YOU AND YOU'RE DOING IT FOR EVERY CURBSIDE, FOR EVERY HOME.

AND THEN LET'S JUST SAY A THIRD OR 40 PERCENT OF THE HOMES AREN'T TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT.

BUT MEANWHILE, WE'RE STILL PAYING FOR IT.

THAT'S ANOTHER REASON.

SO I AGREE.

A LOT OF IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.

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IT IS ONE BIG THING AT ONCE, BUT I FIND THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.

SO IT REALLY ISN'T ALL AT ONCE.

WE'VE BEEN WE TRIED TO BRING IT FORWARD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

AND THIS, UNFORTUNATELY, IF I PULLED OUT A TWENTY FIVE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND THEIR GARBAGE BYLAWS, THE LANGUAGE WILL BE ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THIS.

SO I'M STILL A BIG PROPONENT OF MOVING FORWARD.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO AND THEN LEAVE IT UP TO MYSELF TO TO MAKE EVERYTHING COME TOGETHER BY NEXT YEAR.

BUT WHEN WE GET INTO OPERATION OF THE LANDFILL AND A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS WITH THE CONTRACTS, BUT BUT WE DEFINITELY NEED SOMEWHERE TO START.

WE'VE ADDED THE EXTRA BYLAW GOING ON.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG COMPONENT OF ALL THIS, IS THAT JUST AT LEAST GOING OUT AND GIVING NOTICES OF VIOLATION OR LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING WRONG AND THEN EDUCATING EVERYBODY ABOVE AND BEYOND, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE REALIZE.

JUST A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION.

IF I MAY, YOUR WORSHIP.

THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH.

THANK YOU, THROUGH YOU.

THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT BYLAW TO WADE THROUGH.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN HERE AND MR. HALLOCH KNOWS THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN THERE I DISAGREE WITH, BUT THEY'RE BEYOND HIS CONTROL.

HE'S NOT THE ONE THAT'S SETTING THE RULES ON MOST OF THIS, THIS IS BEING DONE BY THE PROVINCE AND THEY ARE DICTATING THE WAY WE GO ABOUT THIS.

THE ULTIMATE GOAL HERE IS TO CUT DOWN ON THE AMOUNT OF GARBAGE THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO OUR LANDFILL TO SAVE THAT LANDFILL, TO MAKE IT WORK PROPERLY.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.

THE TWO BAG LIMIT.

MY BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH A TWO BAG LIMIT IS, AS I SAID, WE PUT OUR GARBAGE INTO THE WHITE LINER BAGS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE HOUSEHOLD.

I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF ADDING AN EXTRA LAYER OF PLASTIC.

I DON'T LIKE PLASTIC AT ALL.

SO BUT IF THAT'S WHAT THE REGULATIONS ARE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE.

20 KILOS.

THAT'S A 42 POUND BAG, THAT'S A VERY HEAVY BAG, I MEAN, WHEN I LIFT UP MY GARBAGE CAN TOMORROW MORNING, IT WON'T WEIGH ANYWHERE NEAR THAT.

COMPOSTING, COMPOSTING.

NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN ARE DOING COMPOSTING, AND I THINK THEY CAN.

I THINK THAT'S AN EDUCATIONAL THING.

THE A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT COMPOSTING ATTRACTS VERMIN.

IF YOU DO IT PROPERLY, IT DOESN'T.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S A QUESTION OF US TEACHING THEM WHAT WE GONNA DO.

CHRIS PATRIE MADE THE COMMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY ONE TAXPAYER AND HE'S RIGHT.

THE PROBLEM IS THE THE MAJOR TAX BURDEN ON THIS IS COMING TO US VIA THE PROVINCE, NOT BY THE CITY, WE ARE COMPLYING WITH THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE COMING DOWN AND WE ARE TRYING DESPERATELY TO MAKE THINGS WORK.

I COMMEND MR. HALLOCH.

HE'S RIGHT.

THREE YEARS WORKING.

I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS.

AND IT'S A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT SUBJECT.

YES, IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE THING.

I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE BEEN BROKEN UP INTO MAYBE TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT BYLAWS, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT THAT WAY.

WE GOT TO MOVE AHEAD.

I WILL.

THIS BEING A GARBAGE BYLAW, I WILL HOLD MY NOSE AND I WILL VOTE FOR IT.

AND I HOPE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? YES.

MUTED MYSELF.

SORRY.

THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO ADD IS THAT I THINK IF WE DON'T LIKE, I WILL SUPPORT THIS.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF PUBLIC EDUCATION TO GET PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND AND I DON'T THINK IF WE DON'T MOVE THIS ALONG NOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME FOR THAT.

AND THEN WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FALL? WE'RE GOING TO SAY WE'RE NOT READY BECAUSE WE'RE STILL DISCUSSING THIS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT FROM JANUARY 1ST TILL JUNE 1ST.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FROM JUNE 1ST TILL JANUARY 1ST.

AND WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET GOING ON THIS.

SO I THINK WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD.

IT'S ABOUT THE LANDFILL.

IT'S ABOUT DIVERSION AND IT'S ABOUT DOING WHAT WE CAN, AND EVERY SITUATION IN EVERY HOUSE IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.

WE DID TALK ABOUT LAST FALL ABOUT PEOPLE THAT HAVE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES, AND I WELCOME THOSE TO CALL AND EXPLAIN WHAT THEY ARE.

THAT COULD NEVER POSSIBLY MEET THE TWO GARBAGE RULE.

I KNOW SOME COMMUNITIES GIVE YOU 52 FREE BAGS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.

THEY GIVE YOU 52 TAGS.

SO IF YOU USE FOUR IN ONE WEEK AND YOU DON'T USE ANY OF THE NEXT WEEK, THEN YOU ONLY USE 52 BAGS OF GARBAGE A YEAR.

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AND THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR TAGS FOR OTHERS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE INTERESTED IN DOING AND DOING TOO BECAUSE THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE SOMEBODY HAS SOMEBODY CONVALESCING AT HOME THAT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH A LOT MORE GARBAGE AND NOT BE IN A POSITION TO GO ANYWHERE OR TAKE IT ANYWHERE.

BUT I JUST ENCOURAGE PEOPLE AND AS PART OF THE EDUCATION, THAT CIRCUMSTANCES ARE DIFFERENT IN EVERY HOUSEHOLD IF THERE'S THAT [INAUDIBLE].

AND EXPLAIN WHAT THEY ARE TO I'M NOT SURE WHO THAT PERSON WOULD BE, BUT WE COULD DEFINE THAT AND THEN WE CAN THERE IS EXCEPTIONS THAT CAN BE MADE.

AND MAYBE IT'S THROUGH THE, OUR ACCESS CARD.

MAYBE IT'S IT'S THROUGH A SIMILAR SYSTEM LIKE THAT.

BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE PROGRESSIVE.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU DON'T DO THIS HAPHAZARDLY MR. HALLOCH.

I KNOW THIS IS A PASSION THAT YOU HAVE AS WELL, AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WORK HARD AT.

WORKING AT THE RECYCLING SPOTS AND GETTING ALL THAT, AS I SAID AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING, WE PROBABLY NEED MORE BINS BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF ONLINE SHOPPING THAT'S BEING DONE AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THE BINS ARE SO FULL WITH STYROFOAM AND CARDBOARD AND THAT'S PROBABLY A LOT OF THE PROBLEM.

OK COUNCILLOR TURNER.

YEAH, PROBABLY WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IS RIGHT ALONG THE LINES WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE JUST MENTIONED, I THINK IT WOULD BE REASONABLE FOR US TO CONSIDER SOME SORT OF.

MEANS TEST THE ACCESS CARD, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, FOR PEOPLE IN A SITUATION WHERE COUNCILLOR PATRIE SAID 10 KIDS, ONE HOUSE.

THAT SHOULD BE LIKE THE REAL EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.

SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, I'D LIKE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS BYLAW AND THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS, PERHAPS COME BACK TO US WITH THE SUGGESTION LATER ON TELLING US WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE IN EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH TAKING GOOD CARE OF OUR LANDFILL, THE ENVIRONMENT AND OUR COMMUNITY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC? NOT SEEING ANY.

JUST A FINAL COMMENT AND EVERYONE'S CORRECT IT IS ABOUT DIVERSION.

TALK ABOUT THE TAXPAYER.

FIVE MILLION DOLLARS FOR CLOSING DOWN ONE LANDFILL TO REOPEN ANOTHER ONE.

A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN TWO DOLLARS FOR AN EXTRA BAG OF GARBAGE.

SPENT QUITE A FEW YEARS LIVING IN THE RENFREW COUNTY AND DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES LIKE PETAWAWA, PEMBROOK, DEEP RIVER, SOME VERY GOOD LANDFILL SYSTEMS OUT THERE, BUT THEY ALL HAD VERY COMPREHENSIVE RECYCLING PROGRAMS, TOOK A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO GET USED TO THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A YELLOW BIN, A BLUE BIN, A GREEN BIN AND A BLACK BIN.

BUT TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, EVEN WITH A HOUSEHOLD OF SEVEN AT THE END OF EVERY WEEK, WE LOOKING AT ONE BAG OF GARBAGE AND IT USUALLY HAD DIAPERS AND A COUPLE OF CONTAINERS IN IT THAT WEREN'T RECYCLABLE BECAUSE ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING ELSE WAS ABLE TO GO INTO ONE OF THESE DIFFERENT COLORED BINS WHICH WERE ALSO LABELED.

SO IF WE START TAKING THE PROPER STEPS, WE CAN WE CAN BE THERE ALSO.

RENFREW COUNTY'S BEEN DOING IT IN EVERY COMMUNITY FOR YEARS NOW, QUITE SUCCESSFULLY, AND I'M PRETTY SURE WE CAN DO THE SAME, BUT WE NEED TO TAKE THE STEPS FORWARD.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR TURNER.

SEVEN POINT FOUR, REFERRAL FROM THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD, 2020 YEAR END POLICE SERVICES REPORT.

COUNCILLOR PEARCE, I KNOW THIS IS JUST TO BE RECEIVED FOR INFORMATION, I'LL ALLOW YOU TO TAKE CARE OF THIS ONE, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

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THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ELLIOT LAKE POLICE SERVICES BOARD HELD ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 7TH, FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED TO ACCEPT THE 2020 ELLIOT LAKE POLICE SERVICES YEAR END REPORT AS AMENDED AND TO FORWARD TO THE ELLIOT LAKE COUNCIL MEETING FOR THEIR APPROVAL.

ESSENTIALLY, THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE.

IT'S A BIT LATER THAN NORMAL FROM THE COMMANDER OF THE LOCAL [INAUDIBLE].

OUTLINING WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY IN 2020.

THE BIG THING HERE IS, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IS TWO THINGS.

ONE IS THE COMMUNITY SAFETY AND WELL-BEING, PLANNING, WHICH IS MOVING FORWARD VERY RAPIDLY, THE WHICH WE WILL BE DISCUSSING IN THE NEXT ITEM.

BUT THE OTHER PART IS MENTAL HEALTH INITIATIVES, PARTICULARLY THE MOBILE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM.

THIS IS A COOPERATIVE WORK WITH THE POLICE, WITH THE ALGOMA EAST ALGOMA MENTAL HEALTH TEAM, WITH THE VARIOUS SOCIAL SERVICES, INCLUDING [INAUDIBLE], TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE RESPONDING TO MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS IN THE CITY AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO RESPOND TO THEM AS A AS A POLICE EFFORT.

THE SITUATION TABLE, I THINK, IS WORKING VERY WELL.

I KNOW THAT THE COOPERATION AMONG THE VARIOUS AGENCIES IS REALLY COME ALONG QUITE NICELY.

THE EMERGENCY MUNICIPAL EMERGENCY CONTROL GROUP, I THINK I WOULD LEAVE THAT TO YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, TO COMMENT ON.

STAFFING.

THERE WAS A SHORTAGE OF STAFFING AT THE BEGINNING OF 2020, BUT THEY HAVE NOW RECEIVED SEVEN NEW CONSTABLES THROUGH THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS WHO ARE WORKING HERE.

OVERALL, THE OUTLOOK.

FOR THE COMMUNITY, FROM A CRIME PREVENTION PERSPECTIVE IS FAIRLY GOOD, PROPERTY CRIME IS DOWN, VIOLENT CRIME IS NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.

STATUES AND ACTS ARE UP SLIGHTLY DUE AGAIN TO THE MENTAL HEALTH ACT HAVING A BIG IMPACT ON THAT.

THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASE, HOWEVER, IN SUSPECTED OVERDOSE RELATED CALLS.

FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR EAST ALGOMA OR ALGOMA PERIOD IS UNDERGOING A MAJOR EPIDEMIC.

I WON'T SAY PANDEMIC, BUT AN EPIDEMIC OF OPIOID DEPENDENCY AND SUBSEQUENT OVERDOSES.

THE INTERESTING.

UNFORTUNATE ASPECT IS THAT THIS IS HAPPENING MAINLY WITH OLDER PEOPLE NOW, NOT WITH YOUNGER PEOPLE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

GOING FORWARD IS GOING TO BE.

I KNOW THAT ALGOMA PUBLIC HEALTH IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON THAT AND SAME THING WITH THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD.

ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAD BEFORE WAS 911 CALLS.

SORT OF HANG UP CALLS, AS THEY CALL THEM, THOSE ARE DOWN SUBSTANTIALLY NOW, SO THANK GOODNESS FOR THAT.

AND OVERALL, THE NUMBER OF CALLS FOR SERVICE IS DOWN BY 19 PERCENT AND WAITED HOURS ARE DOWN BY EIGHT PERCENT, WHICH REDUCES THE COST TO THE COMMUNITY.

LOOK FOR A MOTION TO RECEIVE.

OH, [INAUDIBLE] MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND BY COUNCILLOR [INAUDIBLE].

OK, BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE, FOR GOING THROUGH THAT.

JUST A LITTLE TIDBITS.

COMMUNITY SAFETY AND WELL-BEING PLANNING IS GOING QUITE WELL.

I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF MR. ANTUNES PUTTING IT TOGETHER A LOT OF WORK WITH COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AND PARTNERS.

AND I'M SO, SO PROUD OF THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WITH THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD TAKING HUGE STEPS TOWARDS SOME OF THE MENTAL HEALTH INITIATIVES.

THAT MOBILE CRISIS RESPONSE INITIATIVE, I THINK WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS ACHIEVEMENTS WE COULD HAVE HAD FOR OUR EAST ALGOMA ATTACHMENT AND THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, ALONG WITH THE SITUATION TABLE.

SO RATHER THAN INDIVIDUALS HAVING TO FACE CHARGES, FINES, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, THEY ARE ACTUALLY GETTING APPROPRIATE ASSISTANCE AND HELP THAT THEY SHOULD BE GETTING.

SO NOT EVERY CALL TO THE TO 911 OR THE OPP HAS TO BE A CRIMINAL ONE.

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THEY'RE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE AND HELP PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT ARE NEEDING IT.

AS MENTIONED, THE OPP ARE ALSO INVOLVED IN OUR CITY'S MUNICIPAL EMERGENCY CONTROL GROUP, WHERE WE'RE TAKING DIRECTION AS THE PANDEMIC THAT WE'VE BEEN IN FOR OVER A YEAR NOW.

ALGOMA PUBLIC HEALTH IS OUR LEAD ON THIS BECAUSE IT IS A HEALTH CRISIS.

AND I'M QUITE HAPPY TO SEE THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF A LOT OF NUMBERS DOWN AS FAR AS THE STATS ARE CONCERNED.

BUT IT'S MIND BLOWING THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST YEAR.

FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE INCREASE IN DRUG OVERDOSES.

AND THAT'S NOT JUST ACROSS NORTH, ACROSS THE WHOLE PROVINCE.

AND IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH MENTAL HEALTH.

INDIVIDUALS, UNFORTUNATELY, COMPROMISED BECAUSE OF ISOLATION AND COVID-19.

IT'S VERY SAD TO SEE OVERALL.

THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCILLOR PEARCE, FOR FOR GOING THROUGH THAT AND LOOKED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REPORT.

I HAVE ONE.

BASED ON THE ASPECT THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR SERVICE.

AND THE STAFFING, WE'RE.

DOWN SEVEN OFFICERS OF THE COMPLEMENT OF WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE RECEIVING, WILL WE BE RECEIVING A REBATE ON OUR ANNUAL FEE SEEING AS WE WEREN'T GETTING THE FULL COMPLEMENT OF OFFICERS AS PER AGREEMENT? I BELIEVE I DON'T BELIEVE SO COUNCILLOR PATRIE EVERYTHING IS DONE, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, BY HOURS, SO OVERALL HOURS IT DOES.

SAY ARE DOWN, DOWN BY EIGHT PERCENT HERE.

SO THAT MIGHT BE REFLECTIVE.

BUT, YEAH, EVERYTHING'S PAID FOR THROUGH THE HOURS OF SERVICE, NOT THE COMPLIMENT OR NUMBERS OF STAFF, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND.

IF I MAY, YOUR WORSHIP, I BELIEVE THAT THE WHAT THEY WERE DOING WAS ROTATING PEOPLE THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS SUFFICIENT STAFF ON HAND, BUT IT WAS CREATING A PROBLEM FOR THE FOR THE DETACHMENT.

AND BUT I THINK THAT'S NOW BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT ALL I WANT TO SAY ON THAT, I THINK.

IS THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE YEAR END REPORT? I HAVE A QUESTION, YOUR WORSHIP.

OK COUNCILLOR TURNER.

YEAH, I THINK COUNCILLOR PEARCE MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPAND ON THIS.

I WAS GIVEN TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS BECAUSE THE DISPATCHERS HAVE BEEN GIVEN SOME AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE THAT IT'S NON ANSWERABLE CALL.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S PART OF THE.

AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO ANYMORE.

AND WE ALSO HAVE THE 91 CALLS, 911 CALLS ARE NOW COMING DIRECTLY INTO HERE AS OPPOSED TO GOING INTO NORTH BAY, WHICH MAKES A HECK OF A DIFFERENCE.

SO WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS, I'M AT, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE, SPRUCE AVENUE, THEY ACTUALLY KNOW WHERE IT IS AND THEY KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A PROBLEM THERE OR NOT.

AND SO THAT REALLY DOES MAKE QUITE A DIFFERENCE.

AND THE OTHER THING, YOUR WORSHIP, [INAUDIBLE] GOING ON ABOUT IT OCCASIONALLY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS ZIPPED.

THOSE OPIOID OVERDOSES CAN BE CONTRADICTED WITH NALOXONE AND NALOXONE IS FREE AT THE DRUGSTORES.

THERE'S JUST THIS LITTLE.

CAN'T EVEN SEE IT, IT'S A NASAL SPRAY.

OK, AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS.

GIVE IT A LITTLE SQUIRT, SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE, SO GIVE IT SOME CONSIDERATION, PLEASE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE COUNCILLOR TURNER WAS LISTENING IN TO OUR MEETINGS BECAUSE THERE WAS COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE GET THE THE MESSAGE OUT ABOUT THESE NALOXONE KITS? AND YOU JUST DID IT FOR US, COUNCILLOR TURNER.

FLY ON THE WALL.

HEADING STRAIGHT TO THE ADVERTISING BUSINESS.

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OK IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS YEAR'S YEAR END REPORT? SEEING NONE ROLL CALL VOTE TO RECEIVE STARTING COUNCILLOR TURNER.

AND COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

AND I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED.

SEVEN POINT FIVE REFERRAL FROM POLICE SERVICES BOARD, REQUIRED OPP DETACHMENT BOARD COMPOSITION CHANGE SO.

AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ELLIOT LAKE POLICE SERVICES BOARD HELD WEDNESDAY, APRIL SEVEN, 2021, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED, MOVED BY THE SUSAN LANDMARK, SECONDED BY DENNIS MEEKING TO RECEIVE MARCH 18 2021.

CORRESPONDENCE FROM SOLICITOR GENERAL SYLVIA JONES OR OPP DETACHMENT BOARD FRAMEWORK AND FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND DIRECTION.

WE HAD A RECOMMENDATION.

THAT THE REPORT SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER, DATED APRIL SEVEN, 2021 BE RECEIVED IN THAT COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO REACH OUT TO THE 17 COMMUNITIES IN EAST ALGOMA OPP CATCHMENT AREA TO OBTAIN A CONSENSUS ON A THREE POLICE BOARD MODEL.

THAT COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO SUBMIT THE PROPOSAL ON BEHALF OF THE 17 COMMUNITIES TO FORM THREE POLICE BOARDS IN THE EAST ALGOMA OPP CATCHMENT AREA.

LOOK FOR A MOVER AND SECONDER ON THIS AND.

BEFORE WE START.

TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE CONTEXT.

I'LL MOVE.

I'LL SECOND.

OK MOVED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.

SECONDER? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, THANK YOU.

BEFORE I HAND IT OVER TO MR. ANTUNES, I DID RECEIVE NEW INFORMATION THIS MORNING ON THIS.

AND I THINK A LOT OF A LOT OF MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE EXTREMELY CONFUSED AS TO WHAT THE HECK THIS MEANS.

SO THE EMAIL I RECEIVED WAS FOR CONSULTATION WITH THE MINISTRY RESPONSIBLE ON MAY 14TH AT 11:00 A.M.

THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO ATTEND, I GUESS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF.

NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ON THIS AND JUST SO COUNCIL'S AWARE AS WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS A COMMUNITY WELLBEING PLAN, ALONG WITH MANY OTHER INITIATIVES THROUGH THE OPP AND THROUGH OUR POLICE SERVICES BOARD, THE MINISTRY DECIDED THAT THEY'D LIKE TO AMALGAMATE THE SIX CURRENT POLICE SERVICES BOARD IN EAST ALGOMA, ALL INTO ONE REPRESENTING SEVEN COMMUNITIES, WHICH TAKES AWAY A VOICE AND THE NEEDS FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY STILL WORKING TOWARDS ACHIEVING.

SO THAT THAT'S WHERE THIS COMES FROM.

AND MAYBE, MR. ANTUNES, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE KIND OF GIVE US SOME BACKGROUND ON WHY WE'RE WE'VE COME UP WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION ON SUCH SHORT NOTICE.

THANK YOUR WORSHIP AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THOUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU SAID, THE EAST ALGOMA OPP HAS A CATCHMENT AREA THAT INCLUDES THE 17 MUNICIPALITIES AND FIRST NATION PARTNERS LISTED IN THE REPORT, OF THOSE COMMUNITIES.

SIX COMMUNITIES ARE SECTION TOWNS WHICH HAVE POLICE BOARDS SET U.

THE ON THE 18TH OF MARCH, 2021, THE SOLICITOR GENERAL SENT OUT INFORMATION TO THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT FIRST NATIONS, ESSENTIALLY SAYING WHAT MAYOR MARCELO HAD SUGGESTED THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING MULTIPLE POLICE BOARDS, THE IDEA WAS TO INTRODUCE ONE POLICE BOARD TO COVER THE AREAS TO OFFER EQUAL AND FAIR AND COMPLETE REPRESENTATION.

ONE THING THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE COMMUNICATION FROM THE MINISTRY WAS THE PROPOSAL WOULD OUTLINE THE COMPOSITION OF THE BOARDS AND IF NEEDED, THE RATIONALE FOR MULTIPLE BOARDS AND THE COMPOSITION OF THOSE BOARDS.

SO AND OF COURSE, IT HAD A FAIRLY SHORT DEADLINE OF MONDAY, JUNE 7TH, TO GET IT ALL TOGETHER.

AND OF COURSE, AS THE MINISTRY OF SOLICITOR GENERAL OFTEN DOES HAVE AND I LEARNED THIS THROUGH THE COMMUNITY SAFETY WELL-BEING PLAN, IF YOU DON'T COMPLY BY

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THEIR END DATE, THEY WILL MAKE THE DECISION FOR YOU AND WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

SO THE MINISTRY INDICATED THEY WILL THEY WILL CHOOSE THE COMPOSITION OF THE OF THE DETACHMENT BOARD.

THE ANALYSIS THAT WE PUT THROUGH AND THROUGH DISCUSSION WAS THERE'S A LARGE CHALLENGE WITH THE FORMATION OF ONE BOARD TO COVER SEVENTEEN COMMUNITIES.

POTENTIALLY YOU WOULD HAVE 17 MEMBERS AT THE TABLE.

AND WITH THIS COUNCIL ALONE, SOMETIMES WITH EIGHT MEMBERS AT A TABLE, IT'S DIFFICULT TO HOLD A MEETING, LET ALONE 17 TRYING TO COMMUNICATE AND GET THEIR POINTS AND THEIR DESIRES ACROSS.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES IS THE VARYING NEEDS OF ALL THE COMMUNITIES IN THE FIRST NATIONS.

THE, YOU KNOW, THE THE FOLKS IN SPANISH, THEIR POLICE NEEDS ARE MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, ISSUES RECEIVING THE SUPPLEMENTAL SERVICES FROM THE OPP.

SO THE OTHER ISSUE, OTHER THAN JUST THE SIZE OF THE COMMITTEE, ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP IS REPRESENTATION.

THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE ACCOUNTS FOR ROUGHLY 50 PERCENT OF THE CALLS TO THE EAST ALGOMA DETACHMENT OF THE OPP.

DO WE AS A CITY GET ONE SEAT AT THE TABLE EQUAL TO THE OTHER COMMUNITIES? SO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IF IT BECAME AN ISSUE OF REPRESENTATION AND SIZE, THAT COMMITTEE CAN VERY QUICKLY GROW TO TWENTY, TWENTY FIVE, THIRTY MEMBERS, WHICH THEN OF COURSE MAKES THE MEETING AND THE MEETINGS OF THE POLICE SERVICES MUCH MORE UNRULY.

ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS A THREE BOARD SOLUTION.

CONVENIENTLY ENOUGH, THE EAST ALGOMA OPP HAS THREE DETACHMENTS THESSALON, [INAUDIBLE] RIVER AND HERE IN ELLIOT LAKE SO WHEN THE REPORT WAS WRITTEN UP BY STAFF, THE BREAKDOWN AS TO NOT NAME IT AFTER A TOWN, WE ESSENTIALLY BROKE IT DOWN INTO THREE BOARDS.

SO NORTHSHORE WEST, NORTH SHORE EAST AND NORTH SHORE NORTH.

SO NORTH SHORE WEST WOULD BE THE [INAUDIBLE] DETACHMENT AND THAT WOULD RUN FROM THE TOWNSHIP OF TARBUTT ALL THE WAY TO THESSALON FIRST NATION, NORTH SHORE EAST WOULD RUN FROM MISSISSAUGA FIRST NATION TO THE TOWNSHIP OF SPANISH AND THEN NORTH SHORE NORTH THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE.

SO THESE THREE DISTINCT BOARDS ENSURES THAT EACH COMMUNITY IS REPRESENTED EQUALLY AND ALLOWS EACH DETACHMENT TO DEAL WITH POLICING ISSUES IN THEIR RESPECTIVE CITIES AND THEIR RESPECTIVE OR EXCUSE ME, THEIR RESPECTIVE AREAS.

THE MINISTRY LETTER DOES SUGGEST THAT THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE FIRST NATIONS IN THE REGION WORK TOGETHER TO DETERMINE THE COMPOSITION OF THE BOARDS IN THE MANNER IN WHICH THIS PROPOSAL WILL BE SUBMITTED.

WE AS AGAIN THE MUNICIPALITY THAT HAS THE LION'S SHARE OF CALLS HAVE SUGGESTED, OR IS THE SUGGESTION IS THERE THAT WE TAKE ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF PUTTING TOGETHER THE PROPOSAL, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD REACH OUT TO THE 17 OTHER MEMBER COMMUNITIES WITH THE BLESSING OF COUNCIL AND THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL TO SUGGEST THE THREE DETACHMENT OR THREE DISTINCT BOARD MAKE UP AND SUBMIT THE PROPOSAL ON BEHALF OF THESE.

COMMUNITIES TO THE MINISTRY OF THE SOLICITOR GENERAL.

FINANCIAL IMPACT, IT'S REALLY LIMITED TO THE COST OF STAFF'S TIME TO COMMUNICATE WITH THESE DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES AND FIRST NATION PARTNERS AND SUBMITTING THE PROPOSAL.

SO IN A NUTSHELL, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS THAT COUNCIL SUPPORT THE THREE BOARD PROPOSAL AND DIRECT STAFF TO REACH OUT TO OUR NEIGHBORING PARTNERS AND COMMUNITIES AND MAKE A PROPOSAL ON THEIR BEHALF.

AND HOPEFULLY ALL 17 AGREE ON THE BREAKDOWN.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THROUGH YOUR WORSHIP.

THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? I DO.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

THROUGH YOU THROUGH YOUR WORSHIP.

I SAT ON THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CAPACITIES.

ONE IS A CITY REP AND ONE IS A PROVINCIAL REP.

AND THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THIS DISCUSSION HAS COME UP, THIS DISCUSSION WAS ALWAYS BROUGHT FORWARD BY THE COMMANDER OF THE [INAUDIBLE] DETACHMENT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF MEETINGS THAT THEY WENT TO AND THEY WANTED TO HAVE BETTER TIME MANAGEMENT FOR THEIR SCHEDULE.

AND SO I'M NOT SURPRISED THAT IT'S MADE IT UP THIS HIGH UP THE CHAIN TO TO DO

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THIS.

I ALWAYS FOUND IT VERY INEQUITABLE THAT WE HAVE OPP SERVICES IN COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T PAY FOR OPP SERVICES AND THAT THEY GO MORE ON A FEE FOR SERVICE.

IF THEY HAVE AN INCIDENT IN THEIR COMMUNITY, THEY WILL PAY THE HOURS DIRECTLY TO THE OPP VERSUS PAYING YEARLY CONTRACTS.

BUT WE USED TO ACTUALLY MEET REGIONALLY AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE EVERY THREE MONTHS MS. BRAY CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WE USED TO ALL THE ALL THE POLICE BOARDS WOULD SEND A REPRESENTATIVE OR TWO TO THESE MEETINGS AND WE WOULD MEET EVERY THREE MONTHS.

BUT I NEVER SAW OR FELT THAT THERE WAS ANY WORK BEING DONE BY THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD THAT HAD A VALUE TO KEEP THAT GOING.

WE WOULD GO AND DISCUSS WHAT WAS GOING ON, BUT WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE CONTRACTS TO HAND.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE MANDATE WAS OF THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD WAS TO MANAGE THE CONTRACTS.

AND WE MANAGE THE CONTRACTS BY GETTING REPORTS SUCH AS THE ONE WE HAD TODAY TELLING US WHAT THEY DID IN THE LAST YEAR, BUT WE NEVER HAD ANY REAL INPUT.

SO I'M NOT SURE IF GOING TO A THREE BOARDS IS GOING TO GIVE YOU LESS.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU'VE PUT ELLIOT LAKE ON ITS OWN BECAUSE THEY PAY THE LION'S SHARE OF THE OPP COSTING IN THIS AREA SO THAT SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES DO HAVE OPP IN THE AREA.

BUT AND IT WOULD NOT BE FAIR TO ME TO HAVE ONE VOTE FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THIS MUNICIPALITY PAYS TO THE OPP FOR POLICE SERVICES.

THAT CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BE FAIR.

THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD DO A ONE ON ONE BOARD IS THAT IF YOU FROM EACH COMMUNITY DOWN TAKE A PERCENTAGE OF ELLIOT LAKE WOULD HAVE TWO OR THREE VOTES.

[INAUDIBLE] RIVER WOULD HAVE A COUPLE AND THE REST WOULD EACH HAVE ONE OR WHATEVER.

BUT I'M NOT SURE THE BENEFITS OF.

OTHER THAN THE TIME MANAGEMENT FOR I GUESS, FOR THE OPP, THE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'D BE ANY LOSS OF SERVICES DOING THIS OR IF YOU WOULD GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE, BUT FOR US, FOR ELLIOT LAKE` I DON'T SEE IT AS A RISK AT ALL BECAUSE WE WOULD STILL HAVE OUR OWN BOARD.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD GET THE OTHER COMMUNITIES TO BUY INTO IT BECAUSE THEY.

BUT OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A LOT MORE PAPERWORK AND A LOT MORE THINGS TO DO.

YOU'VE DONE SOME VERY GOOD WORK, THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD AND WITH THE INITIATIVES YOU'VE BROUGHT FORWARD.

SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT YOU'RE FUNCTIONING IN THAT IN THAT MANNER AND THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST WAITING FOR A CONTRACT TO COME AND SITTING AND NOT GETTING TO LOOK AT IT, THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY BEING A PART OF SOME OF THESE CHANGES.

AND I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL, BUT.

TO ME, IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE AS LONG AS YOU KEEP ELLIOT LAKE HAS THEIR OWN BOARD, WE STILL HAVE OUR OWN SAY.

WE STILL HAVE CONTROL OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE POLICING IN OUR AREA.

THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

IF I COULD YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

IF I MAY AS WELL.

AFTER YOU, COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE QUESTION? I HAVE A COMMENT AND A QUESTION.

I AGREE WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, IF WE HAVE OUR OWN POLICE SERVICES BOARD, THEN IT'S NOT AS BAD.

THE REASON THAT I HAD ASKED IF WE WERE TO BE RECEIVING A REBATE IS BECAUSE I AGREE WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

THE BIGGEST JOB OF THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD IS TO ADMINISTER THE CONTRACT.

THEREFORE, WE SHOULD KNOW IF WE'RE NOT GETTING THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR, WE SHOULD BE RECEIVING A REBATE.

I KNOW IN YEARS PAST WE USED TO GET THAT.

WE WOULD GET THAT REPORT ANNUALLY AND WE WOULD GET THE REBATE BECAUSE IF OFFICERS THAT ARE SCHEDULED TO BE IN ELLIOT LAKE GET TAKEN OUT OF THE DISTRICT AND ARE SENT TO THE NORTH SHORE, WE WOULDN'T BE BILLED FOR THAT TIME.

SO IF THEY'RE SHORT SEVEN OFFICERS, IF WE'RE NOT GETTING THE SERVICE THAT WE'RE BEING BILLED FOR THE AMOUNT OF HOURS, THEN.

WE SHOULDN'T BE PAYING FOR IT.

WE SHOULD BE GETTING THAT MONEY BACK, SO IF WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN BOARD TO PROTECT OURSELVES FROM THE OPPS BILLING AND WE DON'T GET THE SERVICE AND WE'RE PAYING TWO POINT NINE, ALMOST THREE MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, PLUS, WE'RE SUPPLYING THE BUILDING, WE'RE PAYING ALL THE UTILITIES, WE'RE DOING THE MAINTENANCE.

WE'RE EVEN DOING THEIR CLEANING IN THE POLICE STATION AT THAT KIND OF COST.

IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL, THEN WE MIGHT AS WELL REMOVE THE OPP AND GET OUR OWN POLICE FORCE BACK.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SAVING THE TAXPAYERS A TON OF MONEY AT THIS RATE.

IT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.

SO IF WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN POLICE BOARD TO HAVE SOME SAY IN SOME CONTROL ABOUT SOMEBODY MONITORING THAT CONTRACT, THEN I DON'T THINK THAT WE

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SHOULD BE DEALING WITH THEM.

YOUR WORSHIP JUST TO RESPOND TO COUNCILLOR PATRIE QUICKLY AS BEING THE CHAIR OF THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS, IT'S MORE THAN JUST MANAGING THAT CONTRACT.

IT'S MORE THAN JUST DOLLARS AND CENTS.

WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO OVER OVER THE SIX YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD IS LOOK AT SOME OF THE CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT WE WERE GETTING AND TRY AND FIGURE OUT THE RELEVANCE OF THESE CALLS AND AND THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

OUR DEMOGRAPHICS NOT THE SAME AS AS BLIND RIVER.

OUR NEEDS AREN'T THE SAME AS HERE ON SHORES.

THIS WOULDN'T WORK THE SAME AS THE ADSAB BOARD DOES IN THAT ASPECT.

WE HAVE VERY DISTINCT NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT'S WHERE OUR BOARD'S BEEN ABLE TO COME UP WITH POSITIONS LIKE CONSTABLE PHIL YOUNG HAS NOW BEING OUR COMMUNITY SAFETY OFFICER AND WHAT HE WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DOING IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR OUR CITIZENS.

AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PAYING THE LION'S SHARE FOR A POLICE SERVICE THAT WE HAVE NO REAL SAY IN, WE MAY AS WELL GO BACK TO HAVING OUR OWN CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE POLICE.

AND THAT'S WHERE THIS PROBLEM COMES.

IF WE CAN'T HAVE HAVE THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY MET, THEN WHAT IS REALLY THE POINT? AND AGAIN, THOSE COMMUNITY CONSULTATION WITH HEADS, THE COUNCIL, MAY 4TH.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S A LOT OF OUTRAGE IN THE SAME AREA.

COUNCILLOR TURNER.

THANK YOU WORSHIP ALRIGHT, COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

NO.

FIRST OF ALL, JUST ANSWERING WHAT COUNCILLOR FINAMORE BROUGHT UP, THIS DIDN'T COME FROM THE DETACHMENT COMMANDER.

THIS CAME FROM QUEENS PARK.

AND IT IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE GOVERNMENT DECIDING THEY'RE GOING TO REDUCE COSTS BY CONSOLIDATING THE SAME THING THEY'RE TRYING TO DO WITH PUBLIC HEALTH.

THEY'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD.

WE WILL HAVE OUR OWN POLICE UNDER THIS ARRANGEMENT THAT MR. ANTUNES HAS SUGGESTED, WE WILL HAVE OUR OWN POLICE BOARD, SAME AS WE DO NOW.

IT WON'T BE ANY MAJOR DIFFERENCE.

THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE WILL BE TO PEOPLE LIKE TOWNSHIP OF THE NORTH SHORE AND SPANISH, WHERE THEY WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN POLICE SERVICES BOARD, WHICH RIGHT NOW THEY DON'T.

SO THEY ARE VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS.

I'VE ALSO SPOKEN WITH THE MAYOR OF BLIND RIVER, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SHE AND IS VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS.

AND SHE'S SPOKEN TO REPRESENTATIVES ALONG THE NORTH SHORE AND THEY SEEM TO BE IN FAVOR OF IT.

SO I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT VERY QUICKLY IN TERMS OF THE REPORT TO QUEEN'S PARK.

THE ONE THING I WILL AGREE WITH 100 PERCENT WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE, AND I'M SURPRISED TO HEAR FROM THE MAYOR, I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD BE NEGOTIATING OUT OF A CONTRACT WITH THE OPP AND BRING BACK OUR OWN POLICE FORCE SO THAT WE CAN MANAGE AND THEN WE CAN HAVE CONTROL OVER, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER HOW MANY OFFICERS WE HAVE HERE.

WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE WAY THINGS ARE OPERATED HERE.

THAT'S MY OWN PERSONAL FEELING ON IT.

AND I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT WE HAVE LOST CONTROL OF OUR POLICING IN THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE OPP, YES, THEY LISTEN TO US AT THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD, BUT THEY GO OFF AND THEY DO THEIR OWN THING, SO.

THE WAY IT IS.

SORRY, TOM, GO AHEAD.

COUNCILLOR TURNER, YEAH, YOU KIND OF RUINED IT FOR ME THERE, COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

I WAS JUST GOING TO BRING UP THE SAME POINTS.

THIS INSTRUCTION FROM THE SOLICITOR GENERAL SAID YOU EITHER COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS AND SMALL BOARDS OR I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU ONE BIG ONE UP TO YOU.

YOU MAKE IT HAPPEN OR WE'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN.

SO THERE'S NO OPTION HERE FOR THIS PROPOSAL IS A GOOD ONE.

AND I THINK IT'S APPEALING TO THE SMALLER COMMUNITIES.

THEY BENEFIT FROM IT.

NOT MUCH WILL CHANGE FOR US.

AS FOR HOW MUCH SAY WE HAVE IN A POLICE SERVICES BOARD, I THINK I HAVE TO AGREE WITH

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WHAT'S BEEN SAID ALREADY.

I THINK TO SOME DEGREE WE GET PAID LIP SERVICE.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, PERHAPS WE DON'T HAVE HUGE COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED BY OUR POLICE SERVICES BOARD, WHICH CREDITS THE KIND OF SERVICE WE'RE RECEIVING.

SO.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

YOUR WORSHIP, IF I MAY.

OH, YES, MR. ANTUNES SORRY, NO, NO PROBLEM, THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TOO COUNCIL.

ESSENTIALLY THE SERVICE OF OPP IS IN PRIVATE SERVICES.

WHAT NOT IS NOT THE SCOPE OF THE REPORT.

REALLY, THE SCOPE OF THE REPORT COMES DOWN TO THE MINISTRY IS GOING TO PICK A POLICE BOARD FOR THE 17 COMMUNITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES AND FIRST NATIONS, UNLESS A MEMBER OF ONE OF THE 17 STEPS FORWARD PLAYS THE THE LEAD IN THE UNITED NATIONS HERE AND PUTS THE PROPOSAL FORTH.

AND IF 17 MUNICIPALITIES ARE SITTING AROUND GOING, ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT OR ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT? YOU DO IT, I'LL DO IT.

AND THEN THE 7TH IS GOING TO COME AROUND IN.

THIS MINISTRY IS GOING TO SELECT A BOARD.

SO REALLY, THE SPIRIT OF THE REPORT COMES DOWN TO DIRECTION FOR STAFF TO REACH OUT TO THE MUNICIPALITIES AND THE FIRST NATIONS AND PUT THE PROPOSAL FORTH.

AND THEN THE OTHER ISSUES IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL TO PURSUE.

THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? NOT SEEING ANY.

I THINK IT'S BEEN FAIRLY WELL EXPLAINED, I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE RECOMMENDATION, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

COUNCILLOR CYR FAVOR.

COUNCILLOR TURNER IN FAVOR.

DID I GET COUNCILLOR CYR IN THERE? MUST HAVE.

NO OUTSIDE BOARD OR COMMITTEE REPORTING.

ACTUALLY, THAT WAS UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

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9.1 AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THROUGH SOME OF THESE QUICK NOTICE THAT WE'RE ALMOST AT 10 :30 ALREADY.

RECREATION HUB UPDATE MR. GAGNON.

YES, THANK YOU.

YOUR WORSHIP TRYING TO BE SUCCINCT.

BASICALLY, I THINK IF COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO, YOU KNOW, PICK A DATE, WE SHOULD GET A DATE FOR A FUNDAMENTAL EITHER A HUB COMMITTEE OR A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING TO REVIEW OPPORTUNITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES TO MOVE THE RECREATION HUB FORWARD.

THE NONOHFC HAS BEEN RETOOLED AND ANNOUNCED THE NEW FUND.

SO THERE ARE, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A VERY LONG TIME, OPPORTUNITIES TO AT THE SAME FUND COULD ALLOW US TO DO THE DESIGN AND THE BUILD OF A PORTION OF IT OR THEY WOULD FUND DETAILED DESIGN AND SOFT COSTS AND AT THE SAME TIME ALSO HARD COSTS, CAPITAL SITE PREPPING, FOUNDATION WORK, STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S INTRIGUING.

THE SAME FUND WOULD ALSO, FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, FUND REPAIRS AND RENOVATIONS, REFURBISHMENT OF EXISTING REC FACILITIES.

SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IN FRONT OF US CORPORATELY TO DETERMINE WHICH ARE OUR PRIORITIES, WHICH ASSETS THAT WE WANT TO SIMPLY REPAIR.

WHICH ONES DO WE WANT TO MOVE TO DESIGN AND BUILD? WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME NOW IS WE HAVE A LOT OF REPORTS COMMISSIONED THROUGHOUT THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND THEY'RE ALL AVAILABLE NOW OR YOUR BINDERS HAVE BEEN PREPARED FOR COUNCIL TO COME AND RECEIVE THE HARD COPIES.

WE CAN UNVEIL 95 PERCENT OF THEM TO THE PUBLIC.

THERE'S ONLY THE ODD LITTLE BIT THAT'S CONFIDENTIAL, BUT MOST OF IT IS VERY BENIGN REPORTS ABOUT THE H FACTS OF THE PLANS OF OUR EXISTING REC FACILITIES, A PRO FORMA SORT OF HUB WHAT THIS HUB WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND BASICALLY AT THIS MEETING COMING UP AS SOON AS COUNCIL WISHES TO HAVE IT, WE NEED DIRECTION AS TO WHETHER WE'RE APPLYING FOR THE DETAILED DESIGN AND THE

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BUILD OF THE NEW REC HUB, OR ARE WE LOOKING TO REFURBISH SOME OF OUR EXISTING ASSETS? AND THE BIGGER QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE WE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING TO ANY TYPE OF DETAILED DESIGN ON THE SPORTS HUB, WHAT IS GOING INTO THAT HUB? WHAT ARE WE HAVING THE ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS DO THE DETAILED DESIGN ON? ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS WE NEED TO START REALLY GETTING INTO IN A REAL MEANINGFUL WAY WITH COUNCIL.

AND WE THINK WE HAVE ALL THE REPORTS AND ANALYSIS READY.

WE JUST NEED TO PICK A DATE AND A FORMAT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE CONSULTANT TO WALK US THROUGH WHAT THEY CAN.

AND THEN WE'LL PAINT COUNCIL A PICTURE AS TO WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE SO THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THESE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT TO BE DOING WITH OUR RESOURCES, STAFF TIME, FINANCIAL AND OTHERWISE, FOR THE SPORTS HUB AT 151 ONTARIO.

WE OUGHT TO PICK A THANK YOU, MR. DANIEL.

I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOME UPDATED INFORMATION BINDER'S FOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MAYBE AFTER MEMBER COUNCIL WAS ABLE TO GET THEIR HANDS ON ONE OF THESE.

LOOK OVER SOME OF THE INFORMATION, WE'LL CONTACT MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FOR A SPECIAL MEETING AND WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS KEEP THIS MOVING FORWARD.

9.2 THE ARTS AND CULTURE.

SORRY, MR. MAYOR.

IF I MAY, SIR COUNCILLOR PEARCE, THANK YOU.

UM.

I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF WAITING A COUPLE MORE WEEKS TO DO THIS.

I THINK THERE ARE SOME MAJOR ISSUES THAT HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED.

THE STAFF HAVE PREPARED BINDER'S FOR COUNCIL TO REVIEW.

I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, THAT WE, HOLD MEETINGS WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK TO 10 DAYS, UM, INVITING THE GROUPS THAT THAT ARE GOING TO BE INTERESTED IN OR PARTICIPATING IN THE RECREATIONAL HUB, AND HAVE A FULL BLOWN MEETING OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND ALL INTERESTED PARTIES.

I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY ESSENTIAL THAT WE START THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BEFORE WE START RUNNING OUT OF TIME AGAIN.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

AS I SAID, WE NEED TIME TO REVIEW THE BINDER'S AND IF WE WANT TO HAVE A HUB MEETING THAT INCLUDES SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDERS TO GET SOME INPUT PRIOR TO HAVING A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING AND THEN SO BE IT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO GET IT DONE SOONER THAN LATER.

BUT AGAIN, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME THIS EVENING AND WE'D LIKE TO CARRY ON WITH OUR MEETING.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE, THANK YOU.

I DON'T HAVE THE BINDER YET, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN IT.

BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO COUNCILLOR PEARCE, IS THE FUNDING INFORMATION IN THOSE BINDERS.

SO MR. GAGNON HAS ALLUDED THAT THERE'S SOME NEW FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES COMING FORWARD.

IS THAT GOING TO BE IN THOSE BINDERS? ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION OR DO WE HAVE TO WAIT TO HAVE A MEETING? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING INFORMATION, WHAT'S IN THE BINDER IS MOOT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR IT.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO GET THAT INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT HE'S ALLUDING TO, ABOUT THE NEW FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH DIRECTION TO GO.

I CAN CERTAINLY WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE YOU IT'S NOT IN THE BINDER RIGHT NOW WHAT'S IN THE BINDER OR THE REPORTS THE COUNCIL'S ALREADY COMMISSIONED FOR VARIOUS FACILITIES, WHICH WILL INFORM IN THAT MEETING.

BUT WE CAN GET YOU A BRIEFING NOTE ON THAT, THOSE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AS EARLY AS TOMORROW SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE READING THE REPORTS, YOU CAN HAVE THAT CONTEXT IN MIND WHEN IT COMES TO THESE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

THEY'RE NOT.

COUNCILLOR PEARCE IS ASKING, HAVE THE MEETING, CANT HAVE THE MEETING IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT MONEY WE HAVE TO SPEND.

SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IF WE DO HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION IN THOSE BINDERS AND THEN ONCE WE'VE HAD SOME TIME TO READ IT, WE CAN CALL ANY MEETING THAT WE NEED TO.

WE COULD CERTAINLY ARRANGE THAT.

YEAH, OK.

9.2 THE ARTS HUB UPDATE, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, MR. DANIEL SURE SIMILAR THE SAME FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AT THE NONOHFC ARE ALSO AVAILABLE

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FOR THE ARTS, FOR A NEW CONSTRUCTION OR THE DETAILED DESIGN.

SO THAT'S GOOD.

A GOOD NEWS STORY.

WE STILL ALSO HAVE THE HERITAGE CANADA, THE CANADIAN CULTURAL SPACES FUND LOOPED IN.

WE HAD AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION LAST WEEK WITH BOTH THE NONOHFC AND HERITAGE CANADA AT THE SAME CONVERSATION.

SO IT DOES BODE WELL FOR THE ARTS HUB FUNDING THE NEXT PHASE IN ON THE SAME OPPORTUNITY WITH THE NOHFC.

THERE WILL BE A ARTS HUB STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING ON FRIDAY THE 23RD, WHERE THE CONSULTANT WILL BE GIVING THE COMMITTEE TWO OR THREE OPTIONS ON WHAT THIS BUILDING MAY LOOK LIKE AND THE FUNCTIONALITY AND THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND THE COST.

SO WE'RE HOPING AT THAT MEETING TO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WOULD TAKE THE COUNCIL ON MONDAY, THE 26TH.

IT'LL BE PAST THE AGENDA DEADLINES SO WE'LL HAVE TO DO A LITTLE PROCEDURAL DANCE OR AN ADDENDUM OR PENCIL SOMETHING IN.

BUT BASICALLY THE SOONER WE CAN GET THOSE CONCEPTS IN FRONT OF COUNCIL, THE BETTER, BECAUSE THE CONSULTANTS NEED TO MOVE TO THE NEXT PHASE, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE THREE DIMENSIONAL AND A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED IN THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN OF THEIR FEASIBILITY STUDY.

AND THE SOONER WE HAVE THAT NEXT PIECE DONE, THE BETTER POSITION WE'LL BE TO APPLY TO THAT NOHFC FUND AND THE CULTURAL SPACES CANADA FUND TO HOPEFULLY STILL BE LINING UP 75 PERCENT FUNDING FOR THE NEXT PHASE OF THE DETAILED DESIGN, ASSUMING THAT'S WHERE THE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO, WHICH IS THE DETAILED DESIGN OF THE TEN TO 12 MILLION DOLLARS.

WE'LL SEE HOW IT ALL SHAKES OUT BUDGET, SO STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING ON THE 23RD COUNCIL ON THE 26TH HOPEFULLY BE USING FUNDING APPLICATIONS IN THE COMING WEEKS FOR THE NEXT PHASE OF THE ARTS HUB.

AND THEN THAT'S BASICALLY IN A NUTSHELL.

WE STILL HAVE ALL OUR PARTNERS AT THE TABLE, OUR INDIGENOUS NEIGHBORS.

AND THINGS ARE MOVING ALONG ON THE ARTS SPENDING.

9.3 RESIDENTIAL WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS STANDING ITEM, AS THIS MATTER, DEALS WITH POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OR DISPOSITION OF PROPERTY OWNED BY THE MUNICIPALITY MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 239(2)(C) OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT.

I DO UNDERSTAND THERE ARE UPDATES, SO I'D ASK FOR A MOTION TO PUT THIS IN CLOSED SESSION.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

A SECONDER.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

THE WAY TIME IS GOING, WE MAY END UP HAVING TO DEFER ALL CLOSED SESSION ITEMS. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS WONDERING.

QUICKLY THIS EVENING.

UH.

SO THAT'S BEEN PUT TO CLOSED SESSION.

I KNOW WE DO HAVE AN UPDATE AND I WILL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ROLL CALL AGAIN, STARTING COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

9.4 COVID-19 UPDATE STANDING ITEM MR. GAGNON.

AGAIN, PLEASE, SIR, WHEN IT COMES TO TO COVID, OBVIOUSLY WE ALL KNOW WE'RE IN THE STAY AT HOME ORDER, BUT THERE IS NOT A LOT OF TEETH TO THIS PARTICULAR STAY AT HOME ORDER.

CURRENTLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE MUNICIPALITIES LEVELS OF SERVICE, VERY MUCH STATUS QUO.

WE RESISTED THE TEMPTATION TO CLOSE OUTDOOR FACILITIES BECAUSE THE ORDER SPEAKS TO ACTUALLY PERMITTING OUTDOOR FACILITIES UP TO I THINK IT'S FIVE PEOPLE AND THE NEED FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND EXERCISE.

SO WE'RE MONITORING THE FLOW AND THE TRAFFIC AND THE GATHERINGS AT OUR KEY FACILITY, OUTDOOR FACILITIES.

AND SO FAR IT'S BEEN MODEST.

SO WE'RE BASICALLY RESISTING THAT TEMPTATION.

SO I RECOMMEND, UNLESS COUNCIL OF COURSE SEES OTHERWISE, THAT WE WOULD JUST CONTINUE ON MONITORING AND ADJUSTING AS NEEDED, BUT IS NO DESIRE TO CLOSE PARKS AND FACILITIES AND STAGING AREAS AND PARKING LOT.

WHEN IT COMES TO CITY HALL, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY QUITE AS OPEN TO APPOINTMENTS AS WE WERE IN THE PAST.

WE'RE DOING THINGS MORE LIKE THE NATURE OF THE SPIRIT OF THE STAY AT

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HOME ORDER, WHICH, WHEN IT COMES TO RETAIL, IS MORE CURBSIDE.

WE WILL NEVER LEAVE OUR RESIDENTS IN THE LURCH.

IF THERE IS A REAL SITUATION, THEY NEED SOMETHING DONE.

THEY CAN STILL CONTACT US AND WE'LL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

BUT AS A GENERAL RULE, WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE THIS MORE IN A CURBSIDE SCENARIO THAN A COME ON IN THE CITY HALL AND SIT DOWN, SCENARIO.

BUT WE'RE STILL MANAGING THAT AS BEST WE CAN.

AND THE COUNCIL IS STILL QUITE TIED UP WITH WITH THE COVID VACCINE CLINICS.

I'M TOLD OUR NUMBERS ARE NOT TOO BAD CONSIDERING WE'RE OVER TWENTY TWO HUNDRED VACCINES TO OUR RESIDENTS DELIVERED, WHICH IS WELL OVER 20 PERCENT OF OUR TEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED POPULATION, WHICH IS NOT BAD CONSIDERING HOW SLOW IT SEEMS THAT THE VOLUME IS FOR VACCINES IN GENERAL.

SO DEPENDING HOW YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT, IT COULD BE COULD BE A LOT WORSE.

THE POOL IS CLOSED BY ORDER OF THE PROVINCE.

ALL INDOOR GATHERINGS ARE PROHIBITED.

[INAUDIBLE] SO, I THINK, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE TIME, THAT'S THE SHORT VERSION OF THE COVID BREAKDOWN AS WE SPEAK, THAT OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK COUNCILMAY WISH TO IMPOSE.

THANK YOU, STOLE ONE OF MY COUNCIL REPORT ITEMS THERE.

THAT'S OK.

MR. GAGNON.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ANY QUESTIONS ON THE COVID? CONTINUE ON.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE CARRY ON 9.5 MEMO FROM MAYOR MARCHISELLA REAPPOINTMENT OF COUNCILLOR PATRIE TO STANDING COMMITTEES.

MS. BRAY, PLEASE FIND THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATION FOR COUNCIL RESOLUTION AS REQUESTED ON MARCH 22ND 2021 COUNCIL MEETING, WHEREAS ON NOVEMBER 25TH 2019.

SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING COUNCIL RECEIVED INTEGRITY COMMISSION REPORT ON COUNCIL PATRIE CODE OF CONDUCT INVESTIGATION.

AND WHEREAS COUNCIL PASSED, THE FOLLOWING WAS [INAUDIBLE] 43219 THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS PART TWO CONCERNING COUNCILLOR PATRIE SUBVERTING COUNCIL REPURCHASE OF 151 ONTARIO AVENUE AND RELATED CONDUCT CONTRARY TO SECTION 6.2 OF THE CODE OF CONDUCT BE RECEIVED ON THE COUNCIL, ENDORSE THE RECOMMENDED SANCTIONS BY IMPOSING THAT COUNCIL COUNCILLOR PATRIE BE REMOVED FROM ANY AND ALL MUNICIPAL COMMITTEES, BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS EXCEPT THOSE THAT CONSIST OF ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

AND WHEREAS COUNCIL HAS INDICATED A DESIRE TO REINSTATE COUNCILLOR PATRIE TO STANDING COMMITTEES, BE RESOLVED BY COUNCIL, WAIVE THE RESTRICTION OF COUNCILLOR PATRIE BEING REMOVED FROM ALL MUNICIPAL COMMITTEES TO ALLOW REAPPOINTMENT TO MUNICIPAL STANDING COMMITTEES ONLY, AND I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOVER.

ALSO MOVE YOUR WORSHIP.

POINT OF ORDER, YOUR WORSHIP.

IS THIS NOT A FROM THE NOTICE OF MOTION.

POINT OF ORDER.

IF IF THERE IS A SECONDER FOR THE MOTION, THEN I CAN EXPLAIN COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

I'LL SECOND IT.

SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE FOR DISCUSSION, SO COUNCIL DEFINITELY REQUESTED AT THE LAST MEETING TO ALLOW COUNCILLOR PATRIE ON STANDING COMMITTEES ONLY AND IN RE WATCHING THE NOVEMBER 25TH 2019 COMMITTEE MEETING AND LOOKING AT THE WORDINGS IN HERE, THERE'S DEFINITELY A GRAY AREA THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR COUNCILLOR PATRIE BACK ON THE STANDING COMMITTEES DUE TO THE FACT THAT AT THE TIME OF THIS RECOMMENDATION AND SANCTION WE WERE WITH THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.

SO COUNCIL HAD AGREED AT THAT TIME THAT COUNCILLOR PATRIE COULD REMAIN ON ANY COMMITTEES THAT CONSISTED OF ONLY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND THEREFORE STANDING COMMITTEES ARE ONLY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

I REMIND YOU THAT ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND THIS RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE OUT OF ORDER AND WOULD BE CONSIDERED A RECONSIDERATION OF THE MOTION IN WHOLE, WHICH IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT PROCEDURAL PROCESS.

SO THAT'S THE REASONING BEHIND IT.

FOLLOWING COUNCIL'S REQUEST.

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AND THERE YOU HAVE IT, COUNCILLOR PATRIE BEING ABLE TO BE BACK ON THE TWO STANDING COMMITTEES, WHICH IS THE NEXT MEMO.

NOW, I'D ASK IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A COMMENT YOUR WORSHIP AND I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.

THIS IS A RECONSIDERATION.

COUNCILLOR TURNER HEARD MY PERSONAL FEEL ON IT IS, LIKE I SAID, BECAUSE WE WERE AT A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE AT THE TIME THAT ALLOWED COUNCILLOR PATRIE TO REMAIN ON COMMITTEES THAT CONSISTED OF ONLY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THAT BEING SAID.

WE COULD IF THIS DOESN'T MOVE FORWARD AND IT'S POSSIBLY DEFERRED, WE COULD SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON THE SITUATION.

MYSELF, I'D LIKE TO JUST CONTINUE ON.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU MAY SPEAK TO THE MOTION, COUNCILLOR PATRIE, THANK YOU.

THE MOTION IS NOT A RECONSIDERATION.

THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE NOTICE OF MOTION THAT WAS AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY DEFERRED OVER.

BUT I'D LIKE TO THANK MAYOR MARCHISELLA FOR BRINGING FORWARD THIS MEMO.

BUT WHILE THERE ARE ONLY SIX STANDING COMMITTEES, THERE ARE DOZENS OF MUNICIPAL COMMITTEES.

AND I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE ALLEGATIONS BROUGHT BEFORE BROUGHT FORWARD FROM E4M ARE STRICTLY TIED TO THE COMPLAINT FILED BY THE MAYOR ABOUT CONFLICT OF INTEREST REGARDING THE PURCHASE OF 151 ONTARIO.

POINT OF ORDER COUNCILLOR PATRIE POINT OF ORDER COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WAS BEING MADE VERY, VERY CLEAR.

TWO SEPARATE INVESTIGATIONS, TWO SEPARATE REPORTS, THIS IS VERY CLEARLY CODE OF CONDUCT.

NO, COUNCILLOR PATRIE, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT YOU ENSURE THAT WE STICK TO FACTS, NOT YOUR PERSONAL OPINION, THEY'RE VALID.

THEY'RE BOTH POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, TWO SEPARATE REPORTS, THIS IS CODE OF CONDUCT SANCTIONS.

NOT YOUR CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT'S IN THE COURT SYSTEM, EVEN IF YOU'RE FOUND TO BE NOT GUILTY IN THE COURT SYSTEM.

THIS IS STILL CODE OF CONDUCT IF YOU GO BACK AND WATCH THE NOVEMBER 25TH SPEAKERS].

NO, YOU DO NOT NO YOU DO NOT, COUNCILLOR PATRIE, POINT OF ORDER.

GOING TO BE VERY, VERY CLEAR.

POINT OF ORDER IS WHAT I'M DOING, YOU ARE NOT TO MISREPRESENT FACTS, YOUR PERSONAL OPINION ON OTHER SUBJECT MATTER IS FINE.

THE FACTS, THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I'M ACTUALLY NOT.

HAVE THE FLOOR.

I'LL LET YOU SPEAK.

YOU FALSIFY INFORMATION.

I'LL HAVE YOU SHUT DOWN, COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

IT'S YOUR OPINION THAT IT'S FALSE INFORMATION, BUT I HAVE WHAT'S IN FRONT OF THE COURT.

SO CAN I EXPLAIN WHAT I HAVE? MAY I PLEASE? THEY'RE NOT CONNECTED, COUNCILLOR PATRIE, THERE'S TWO SEPARATE REPORTS THAT'S BEEN MADE VERY CLEAR BY THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER, IT'S VERY CLEAR IN BOTH REPORTS.

THIS IS FOR CODE OF CONDUCT, AND AGAIN, IF YOU GO BACK AND WATCH THE NOVEMBER 25TH MEETING, IT WAS VERY CLEAR AT THAT TIME THERE WAS NO REMORSE, THERE WAS NO APOLOGY.

INSTEAD, YOU GOT UP IT IS VERY DISTURBING VIDEO TO WATCH AND CALLED EVERYBODY LIARS.

YOU CALLED ALL OF ORDNANCES LIARS AND A LOT OF THIS CAME FROM VIDEO POINT OF ORDER.

THIS IS THE POINT OF ORDER I'D LIKE TO CALL A VOTE.

CAN I PLEASE SPEAK TO THIS MATTER? NOT IF YOU'RE FALSIFYING INFORMATION.

WOULD YOU PLEASE STOP INTERRUPTING ME? I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT YOUR WORSHIP.

UNDERSTAND, REGARDING THE MARCH 6 MEETING, E4M STATED THAT THE REPORT, THE TWO CODE OF CONDUCT COMPLAINTS REGARDING THE MEETING, I DID NOTHING THAT WAS A CODE OF CONDUCT VIOLATION ITS RIGHT IN THE REPORT.

SO AS FAR AS PER RIC IN MMAH TRAINING, THE TRAINER STATED THAT THE INTEGRITY

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COMMISSIONER CANNOT BRING A CODE OF CONDUCT COMPLAINT FORWARD ON THEIR OWN, WHICH THEY HAVE DONE IN THIS INSTANCE FROM THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST ALLEGATION.

YOU HAVE ALL RECEIVED A LETTER FROM MY LAWYER PRIOR TO THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING THAT STATES FROM THE 2019 CHANGES TO THE MUNICIPAL ACT AND THE REMOVAL FROM COMMITTEES IT DOES NOT ALLOW.

AGAIN, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT E4M BROUGHT THESE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST ME, THEY ARE 100 PERCENT TIED TO THE ALLEGATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

AND THE DOCUMENTATION BEFORE THE COURTS EVEN HAS THE LAWYER FROM CASSELS BROCK STATING THAT MY ACTIONS ARE LEGAL AND NORMAL TO A MEMBER ASSERTING THEIR OPINION IN THE MATTER OF PROVIDING I DO NOT HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

REMEMBER, THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST IS ON 151 ONTARIO, THE COURTS WILL DECIDE THE OUTCOME OF THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST, BUT I FEEL I'M BEING PERSECUTED BY MEMBERS THAT STATED TO THE INVESTIGATOR THAT I WAS OPPOSED TO THE PURCHASE OF 151 ONTARIO AND WANT THE HUB BUILT ADJACENT TO PROPERTY THAT I OWN SO THAT I COULD SELL MY PROPERTY TO THE MUNICIPALITY, WHICH IS COMPLETELY FALSE.

AND I DO HAVE THAT IN WRITING.

AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE MEMBERS THESE ALLEGATIONS OF CODE OF CONDUCT ARE IMPROPERLY BROUGHT AGAINST ME AS THEY WERE NOT FILED AND ARE PART OF THE ALLEGATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST BY E4M.

I ALSO AGREE WITH THE MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS INFIGHTING STOP.

AND WE GET ON WITH THE BUSINESS OF RUNNING THE MUNICIPALITY.

AS I'VE STATED EARLIER, THERE ARE DOZENS OF CITY COMMITTEES AND EVERY MEMBER HAS 10 TO 18 BOARDS EXCEPT FOR MYSELF.

THESE ARE ALL CITY COMMITTEES.

I'VE SAT ON SEVERAL OF THEM THROUGH THE LIBRARY BOARD SHARED USE TRAILS MANY ADVISORY COMMITTEES AS WELL.

I WOULD LIKE TO DO MY JOB AS ELECTED BY THE MEMBERS OF THIS MUNICIPALITY AND ASK COUNCIL TO COMPLETELY.

RESCIND 43219 AND GIVE ME BACK THE BOARDS THAT I WAS ON, LET ME DO MY JOB AND BE A COUNCILLOR FOR THE MUNICIPALITY.

IT'S ALL I'M ASKING.

OK, NOW TO BE VERY, VERY CLEAR, BECAUSE I FILED THE COMPLAINTS, COUNCILLOR PATRIE, NOT JUST A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, I FILED ALL THE COMPLAINTS THAT CAME FORWARD.

WELL, THIS IS DIRECTLY OUT OF THE NOVEMBER 25TH, 2019 MEETING AND THE 71 PAGE CODE OF CONDUCT REPORT.

THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER RECOMMENDS SANCTIONS CONCERNING COUNCILLOR PATRIE'S DISCLOSURE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, CONTRARY TO SECTION 10.1 OF THE CODE OF CONDUCT.

THE INTEGRITY COMMISSION RECOMMENDS.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOUR WORSHIP, DID YOU FILE ASKING YOU SOMETHING.

DID YOU FILE THAT? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER FILED THAT.

I FILED THE COMPLAINTS, COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE'S IMPROPER INFLUENCE CAUGHT.

WE NEED ORDER IN HERE.

OK, MR. GAGNON, IF YOU'RE HOLDING THE TALKING STICK, CAN YOU SHUT COUNCILLOR PATRIE DOWN FOR A FEW MINUTES SO I CAN READ THIS WITHOUT INTERRUPTIONS.

CALL FOR THE VOTE PLEASE? YEAH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT YOUR TONE IS GETTING A LITTLE ALARMING AND THE VOLUME THAT'S PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE DOING THAT.

BUT YOU CAN TONE IT DOWN AND NOT BREAK DECORUM.

WE CAN HAVE A CIVIL CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.

WE CAN DEFER.

YOU CAN VOTE WHATEVER.

IT'S FRUSTRATING GETTING INTERRUPTED.

ALL RIGHT.

MS..

THANK YOU, MR. GAGNON.

IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING.

I LIKE TO STICK TO THE FACTS.

IT'S VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT EVERYONE IS ALLOWED THEIR OWN PERSONAL OPINION.

BUT WE NEED TO STICK TO THE FACTS.

I DID FILE THE COMPLAINTS AGAINST COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

TWO YEARS AGO NOW.

THE CODE OF CONDUCT WAS VERY, VERY CLEAR.

THAT COUNCILLOR PATRIE WAS IN CONTRAVENTION OF DISCLOSING CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION SECTION TEN POINT ONE.

HE ALSO WAS FOUND GUILTY OF IMPROPER INFLUENCE, CONTRARY TO SECTION THIRTEEN POINT ONE AND THIRTEEN POINT TWO OF THE CODE OF CONDUCT.

AND HE WAS ALSO FOUND GUILTY OF.

SUBVERTING COUNCIL CONTRARY TO SECTION.

POINT OF ORDER.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS MEMO IS ABOUT.

THIS IS CLEARING UP YOUR INFORMATION COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

THE CODE OF CONDUCT COMPLAINT, THESE IS WHAT CAME OUT OF IT.

[03:50:04]

THAT'S THE FACTS, YOU LIKE TO TIE THE TWO TOGETHER.

I'D LIKE TO SPEAK YOUR WORSHIP.

I'D LIKE TO FINISH, COUNCILLOR TURNER, I'VE BEEN INTERRUPTED THREE TIMES NOW.

ABSOLUTELY.

POINT OF ORDER, YOUR WORSHIP.

YOU CAN SPEAK AT THE BEGINNING AND YOU CAN SPEAK AT THE END ACCORDING TO OUR POINT OF OUR PROCEDURAL BYLAW.

MR. GAGNON, CAN YOU STOP COUNCILLOR PATRIE FROM INTERRUPTING ME, PLEASE? I'VE ALREADY OVERSTRETCHED MY BOUNDS BY SUGGESTING YOUR TONE WAS GETTING INAPPROPRIATE.

IT'S YOUR MEETING.

I'M JUST THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER I CAN WEIGH IN ON.

OK, SO I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS MOMENT THEN.

IT SUCKS THAT WE HAVE SUCH BAD INTERNET CONNECTION.

I'LL TRY TO BE CALM IF I'M NOT INTERRUPTED.

I AM GETTING.

LOW ON PATIENCE, AS EVERYONE CAN SEE, I'VE SEEN CONSISTENT CONTEMPT FOR MY POSITION AND DISRESPECT FOR MYSELF OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

I'VE TRIED TO BE PATIENT.

AS OF LAST MEETING, I SAID NOTHING.

I'VE BEEN VERY TOLERANT.

MY ROLE AS HEAD OF COUNCIL IS NOT ONLY JUST TO PRESIDE OVER COUNCIL MEETINGS SO BUSINESS CAN BE CARRIED OUT EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY, BUT PROVIDE LEADERSHIP, PROVIDE INFORMATION AND RECOMMENDATIONS COUNCIL WITH RESPECT TO THE ROLES OF COUNCIL.

I'VE TAKEN COURSES BEYOND WHAT EVERY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAS, I'VE TAKEN THE HEADS OF COUNCIL TRAINING AT MY OWN EXPENSE.

I'VE TAKEN MAYORS, CHIEFS AND REEVES TRAINING A TWO DAY COURSE IN NORTH BAY AT MY OWN EXPENSE.

AND HAVE TO TRY AND DEAL WITH ISSUES LIKE THIS AND HOW TO PRESIDE OVER THE MEETINGS.

OUT OF OUR OWN PROCEDURAL BYLAW, AGAIN BEING AN EDUCATIONAL POINT.

RULE UPON POINTS OF ORDER, POINTS OF PROCEDURE, POINTS OF PRIVILEGE, POINTS OF PERSONAL PREFERENCE WITHOUT DEBATE OR COMMENT.

SO COUNCILLOR PATRIE JUST POINTED OUT THE SPEAKING FIRST AND LAST, WHICH HE DID TO ME A FEW TIMES LAST MEETING, I WAS UNDER THE WEATHER AND DID NOT FEEL LIKE GETTING INTO THIS DEBATE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A DEBATE.

YES, THE MAYOR IS PERMITTED TO SPEAK BOTH FIRST AND LAST ON ANY MATTER BEFORE A COUNCIL, BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO.

THE MAYOR IS ALSO A MEMBER OF COUNCIL, FIRST AND FOREMOST.

AS WAS POINTED OUT AT ALL OF OUR TRAINING, I MUST MAINTAIN A SPEAKERS LIST OF THOSE MEMBERS WHO HAVE SIGNALED THE CHAIR IN WHICH TO SPEAK AND ASK QUESTIONS AND RECOGNIZE THE MEMBERS IN ORDER THEY APPEAR.

THE MAYOR IS A MEMBER OF COUNCIL AND CAN BE ADDED TO THE SPEAKER'S LIST.

JUST FOR CLARITY, SO IT'S NOT JUST FIRST AND LAST.

IT IS ALSO MY JOB TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO MISINFORMATION BEING PUT OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

THAT'S MY JOB TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO LIABILITY TO THE MUNICIPALITY AND AGAIN, MISINFORMATION, MISREPRESENTATION OF FACTS IS A LIABILITY OF THE MUNICIPALITY.

SO JUST SO EVERYONE'S AWARE.

IN DOING MY JOB, I'VE BEEN EXTREMELY LENIENT OVER OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WITH ABSOLUTELY EVERYBODY BUT COUNCILLOR PATRIE THE MOST.

NO MEMBER SHOULD BE SPEAKING FOR MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES.

I COULD STOP THE CONVERSATION AFTER FIVE MINUTES.

I DO NOT.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE JUST WENT ON FOR SEVEN MINUTES.

AND MULTIPLE OCCASIONS THROUGHOUT THE MEETING.

I CAN CALL THE VOTE AFTER EVERY MEMBER OF COUNCIL SPEAKS ONLY ONCE, I DON'T DO THAT.

WHY? BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS TO ASK THE QUESTIONS THEY NEED TO ASK AND GET THE ANSWERS THEY NEED TO HAVE BEFORE VOTING.

I'VE SAID THE ONLY REASON THAT I'M GOING THROUGH THESE POINTS IS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN NEARLY THREE YEARS NOW.

OF CONTINUOUS CONTEMPT FOR MY POSITION, CONTINUOUS ATTACKS DURING COUNCIL MEETINGS AND ON THE STREETS, AND I'M TIRED OF IT.

I DON'T NEED TO PUT UP WITH IT.

THANK YOU, MR. GAGNON FOR GIVING ME THAT MOMENT.

I'M GOING TO CALL FOR THE VOTE NOW ON THE ITEM AS IT STANDS.

AS I MENTIONED, ANY AMENDMENT TO THIS WOULD BE A FULL RECONSIDERATION, WHICH IS NOT AN ORDER.

ROLL CALL, VOTE.

I CAN FIND MY SHEET.

I'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR CYR.

[03:55:03]

DON'T YOU SEE A CONFLICT HERE? I'M IN FAVOR.

IF YOU THINK THERE'S A CONFLICT, BRING ME UP ON IT.

I'M NOT TALKING PECUNIARY HERE, I'M TAKING THE PROCEDURE.

IT UNFORTUNATELY, COUNCILLOR TURNER, IF IT WAS TO DISCUSS THE WHOLE SANCTION IN WHOLE, COUNCILLOR PATRIE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE ON IT.

THAT'S VERY, VERY CLEARLY STATED THAT MEMBERS OF COUNCIL CANNOT VOTE ON SANCTIONS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED AGAINST THEM.

THIS IS THIS IS WAIVING THE APPOINTMENT OF STANDING COMMITTEES.

I HOPE I'M NOT COMPLETELY WRONG ON THIS.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE IS IN FAVOR, I'M OPPOSED, BUT THAT'S STILL CARRIED.

NINE POINT SIX MEMO FROM MAYOR MARCHISELLA.

POINT OF ORDER, IT'S THREE MINUTES TO 11.

YES, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE TIME, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO GO PAST THE HOUR OF 11 O'CLOCK? AT LEAST GET THROUGH THE BYLAWS HERE, GUYS, MOVER TO GO PAST 11:00 O'CLOCK.

SECONDER? COUNCILLOR CYR.

CALL FOR A ROLL CALL, COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

NO DEBATE.

THIS IS TO GO PAST 11 O'CLOCK? YES, YES.

IF WE'RE JUST DEALING WITH IN FAVOR.

IF WE DON'T DO IT TONIGHT, THEY'LL BE OUT ADD IT TO NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA, IN FAVOR.

I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED.

NINE POINT SIX MEMO FOR MAYOR MARCHISELLA, UPDATED STANDING COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP.

GOOD MORNING, MS. BRAY, PLEASE FIND MY RECOMMENDATION FOR THE UPDATED STANDING COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP [INAUDIBLE] WHICH GIVES COUNCILLOR PATRIE'S STANDING COMMITTEES TO REPRESENT.

THESE CHANGES INCLUDE REINSTATING COUNCILLOR TO EDC, AS WELL AS FNA, KEEPING COUNCILLOR TURNER AS CHAIR AS HE HAS ALREADY BEEN ACTING AS CHAIR.

NO REASON TO REPLACE THIS POSITION.

THIS RECOMMENDATION SHOULD BE PASSED BY RESOLUTION OF COUNCIL AT NEXT REGULAR MEETING.

MOVER TO ADOPT THE RECOMMENDATION.

MOVE, YOUR WORSHIP.

THANK YOU, MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR CYR.

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

[INAUDIBLE].

NONE.

IF I MAY.

SIR PATRIE, I WOULD LIKE TO RETURN TO THE CHAIR OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, SEEING AS I'M ONLY GOING TO HAVE TWO COMMITTEES AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS 10 TO 18.

COUNCILLOR TURNER SAT IN AS THE CHAIR FOR ONE MEETING.

OTHER THAN THAT, I'D BEEN CHAIRING THAT COMMITTEE FOR SOME TIME.

I WOULD REQUEST TO I CAN'T SIT ON ANYTHING.

IF I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ON BEHALF OF THE MUNICIPALITY, COULD I AT LEAST CHAIR THE COMMITTEE THAT I USED TO CHAIR? SO I, THE CHAIR'S APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR, AND I'VE ALREADY APPOINTED COUNCILLOR TURNER, AND I HAVE NO REASON TO REMOVE HIM FROM FROM THAT POSITION.

[04:00:09]

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? ROLL CALL VOTE.

STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR CYR.

AS IT'S WRITTEN, OPPOSED.

I'M OPPOSED ALSO.

SO THAT'S THAT SHOT DOWN.

10 PETITION'S, THERE ARE NONE.

11 CORRESPONDENTS, NONE.

NOTICE OF MOTION, NONE.

COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[13. COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS]

VERY FEW WILL TRY TO GET THROUGH QUICKLY.

WE ALREADY HEARD THE MINERS MEMORIAL AND DAY OF MOURNING.

SHOULD BE MAY 14TH AT 11:00 A.M..

VACCINES TO DATE IN ELLIOT LAKE COVID VACCINES TO DATE ARE TWO THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY ONE AND APPARENTLY SHOPPERS DRUG MART HAS BEGUN ADMINISTERING THE SHOTS ALSO.

SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

I'M NOT SURE WITH OUR VACCINE CLINIC THAT'S BEEN GOING ON WITH THOSE NUMBERS OR IF THAT'S JUST ELLIOT LAKE OR IF IT'S OUR [INAUDIBLE] AREA, BECAUSE OUR HEALTH TEAM ALSO SERVICES THE SURROUNDING AREA.

BUT IT'S STILL GREAT NUMBERS.

GOOD TO SEE THAT THIS IS GOING ON.

I'D ASK IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL POINTS VERY QUICKLY FOR THE COUNCIL'S REPORTS BEFORE I HIT THE BIG TICKET NUMBERS.

SEEING NONE, THANK YOU, HYDRO ONE FOR APRIL.

FORTY FOUR THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED.

MUNICIPAL POLICING, TWO HUNDRED FORTY TWO THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED.

RECEIVER GENERAL, SEVENTY EIGHT THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED.

ALGOMA DISTRICT SCHOOL BOARD.

TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND.

HURON SUPERIOR CATHOLIC DISTRICT SEVENTY THOUSAND.

MCCOWAN AND ASSOCIATES FORTY TWO THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED.

NONPROFIT RETIREMENT RESIDENTS.

GOLF COURSE CAPITAL COST SEVENTY TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED.

OMERS FORTY SIX THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED.

[INAUDIBLE] INDUSTRIES HOOD WEATHER STRIP, TIRES, RIMS TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND.

THOSE ARE BIG TICKET NUMBERS.

THERE'S NO ADDENDUM.

INTRODUCTION, CONSIDERATION OF BYLAWS.

[15. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF BY-LAWS]

FOR SOME REASON, I CAN SEE EVERYBODY CLEARLY MOVING IN THAT.

FIFTEEN POINT ONE BY LAW, 21-23 BEING A BYLAW TO ESTABLISH STANDARDS FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OCCUPANCY, THE PROPERTY AND THE CORPORATION IN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AND THE REPEAL BYLAW, 03-29.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN, THANK YOU, SECONDER.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, THANK YOU.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? SEEING NONE.

ROLL CALL, I'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

IS COUNCILLOR PATRIE STILL PRESENT? NO.

SEEMS TO BE OFFLINE.

OK, I'M IN FAVOR, THAT'S CARRIED FIFTEEN POINT TWO BYLAW, 21-24 BEING A BYLAW TO PROHIBIT OR REGULATE PUBLIC NUISANCE WITHIN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE.

MOVER, PLEASE.

I'LL MOVE, I'LL SECOND.

MOVE BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, I CAN ACTUALLY SEE YOU ALL.

FIFTEEN POINT THREE BYLAW, 21-25 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE AN AGREEMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE PURCHASE OF ONE THREE QUARTER TON 4X4 SERVICE TRUCK.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

SECOND BY COUNCILLOR MANN.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS?

[04:05:01]

SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED, THANK YOU.

FIFTEEN POINT FOUR BYLAW 21-26 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE AN AGREEMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE PURCHASE OF FIVE 1/2 TON 4X4 SERVICE TRUCKS.

MOVER, PLEASE.

I MOVE.

SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.

AGAIN, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE.

I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE, ALL IN FAVOR.

FIFTEEN POINT FIVE BYLAW, 21-27 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE THE ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR SLUDGE HAULAGE.

A MOVER, PLEASE.

I'LL MOVE.

SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.

AGAIN, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE, ALL IN FAVOR.

FIFTEEN POINT SIX BYLAW 20-28 BEING A BYLAW TO REGULATE THE COLLECTION, REMOVAL AND DISPOSAL OF GARBAGE RECYCLING AND OTHER REFUSE WITHIN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AND A REPEAL BYLAW 05-74.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

SO MOVED.

SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.

AGAIN, ANY.

ROLL CALL.

QUESTION? ROLL CALL OK, START WITH COUNCILLOR CYR.

SORRY, MY COMPUTER KICKED ME OUT, WHICH, BYLAW ARE WE ON.

FIFTEEN POINT SIX BYLAW 21-28 IS THE GARBAGE AND RECYCLING BYLAW.

OPPOSED.

THAT'S CARRIED FIFTEEN POINT SEVEN.

BYLAW, 21-29.

BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE A TRANSFER PAYMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE OFFICE OF THE FIRE MARSHAL WITH RESPECT TO FIRE SAFETY GRANT A MOVER PLEASE.

IS MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, THANK YOU.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? SEEING NONE.

I DO VOTE BY HAND, I CAN SEE YOU ALL NOW.

ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED, ANY OPPOSED.

NO OPPOSED.

FIFTEEN POINT EIGHT BYLAW, 21-30 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE AN AGREEMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE PREVENTION AND CONTROL OF FOREST FIRES.

SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, I CAN SEE EVERYBODY CLEARLY AGAIN.

THAT'S CARRIED, THANK YOU.

PUBLIC QUESTION PERIOD, WE DID HAVE PUBLIC QUESTIONS.

[16. PUBLIC QUESTION PERIOD]

I NEED TO QUICKLY LOOK AT.

NOW PUBLIC QUESTION PERIOD, WE HAD A QUESTION FROM NICOLE [INAUDIBLE].

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, AGENDA ITEM SIX POINT EIGHT, WITH THE ADDITION OF FIVE NAMES, I BELIEVE THEY'LL ONLY BE ROOM FOR ONE MORE.

IS THERE A PLAN TO BUY OR ERECT ANOTHER WALL? AND IF SO, WHAT WILL OCCUR IN THE TIME FOR THE NEXT DAY OF MOURNING IN 2022.

ANSWER IS MS. HENNESSEY HAS BEEN SPEAKING WITH MS. [INAUDIBLE] ON THIS TO TRY INCORPORATE SOMETHING NEW.

AGENDA ITEM SIX POINT NINE REPORT STATES COMMITTEE COMPOSITION REQUIREMENTS BASED ON GUIDELINES ESTABLISHED IN 2015.

QUESTION IS, CAN THE COMMITTEE AND OUR COUNCIL PROVIDE A COPY OF RESOLUTION WHICH CHANGED THE ORIGINAL COMPOSITION 2017 REQUIREMENT FOR REPRESENTATIVES APPOINTED BY UNITED STEEL WORKERS OF AMERICA TO ALGOMA MANITOULIN DISTRICT LABOR COUNCIL THREE THE CITY OF ELLIOTT LAKE, FOR A PERSON REPRESENTING [INAUDIBLE] OF THE WORKER AND TRYING ON THE MEMORIAL AND FIVE NON-VOTING A CITY STAFF APPOINTEE BY THE CITY.

THE ANSWER IS THIS WAS PASSED IN 2019 RESOLUTION 79-19, MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

THAT ITEM 4B A PERSON APPOINTED BY THE ALGOMA MANITOULIN DISTRICT LABOR COUNCIL WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CRITERIA IN THAT 4C BE INCREASED TO TWO PERSONS APPOINTED BY THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE COUNCIL, AND THAT WAS CARRIED.

ALSO IN 2015 CRITERIA FOR A NAME TO GET ON THE WALL WAS AMENDED MOVE BY RESOLUTION 174-15, MOVED BY COUNCILLOR REINHARDT SECOND BY COUNCILLOR MANN.

THE COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE CHANGE IN THE CRITERIA OF THE MINERS MEMORIAL NAME SELECTION COMMITTEE AS FOLLOWS.

A1, A MINE WORKER WHO WAS EMPLOYED IN ANY OCCUPATIONAL RELATED TO

[04:10:03]

THE MINING CAMPS IN ELLIOT LAKE AND WHO WAS EITHER A TRAGICALLY KILLED IN A MINING ACCIDENT OR B SUCCUMBED TO AN OCCUPATIONAL DISEASE, ILLNESS THAT IS RECOGNIZED AND CONFIRMED BY THE WORKPLACE SAFETY AND INSURANCE BOARD WSIB.

QUESTION TWO CAN THE COMMITTEE AND OR COUNCIL EXPLAIN WHY IT HAS TAKEN SO LONG TO COMPLY WITH BOTH 2007 AND 2015 REQUIREMENTS SPEAK HOW DECISION RECOMMENDATIONS DURING PERIODS OF NONCOMPLIANCE ARE DEEMED FAIR AND TRANSPARENT.

THE ANSWER IS THE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN FOLLOWING THE CRITERIA.

WE HAVE NOT ADVERTISED FOR NEW MEMBERS SINCE THE NEW CRITERIA HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED, HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO LOCATE RESOLUTION PASSED IN 2007.

HOWEVER, YOU CAN CONTACT THE CLERK'S OFFICE FOR CERTIFIED TRUE COPIES OF ANY COUNCIL RESOLUTION.

THE NEXT QUESTION COMES IN FROM LOUISE MCLANE, WHO ARE SELECTED MEMBERS OF FILLING THE POSITIONS ON THE MINERS MEMORIAL COMMITTEE, COMPRISED OF THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS, A PERSON APPOINTED BY THE UNITED STEELWORKERS, DOUG SOULIERE, TWO PERSONS APPOINTED BY CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE BLAIR BOILARD, AND KEN PIERCE, A PERSON REPRESENTING AN INDUCTEE, IS BEING GOING TO BE ADVERTISED.

NON-VOTING STAFF PERSON APPOINTED BY THE CITY IS DARLA HENNESSEY.

THESE MEMBERS WERE APPOINTED AT A COUNCIL MEETING, NAMES ARE AVAILABLE IN THE MINUTES OR ON THE CITY WEBSITE UNDER COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

[INAUDIBLE].

ITEMS NINE FIVE AND NINE SIX, COULD THE FOLLOWING BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL RELATING TO AGENDA NINE FIVE NINE SIX, PLEASE? UNLESS A DECISION HAS BEEN HANDED DOWN BY THE SUPREME COURT REGARDING COUNCILLOR PATIRE WITH THE ABOVE ITEMS NOT BE PREMATURE FOR COUNCIL TO DECIDE.

WELL, WE JUST SAW THAT.

[INAUDIBLE] PUBLIC [INAUDIBLE] BOARD, WHICH ALREADY HAS TWO COUNCILLORS, AND THE ANSWER AT THIS TIME WOULD BE NO, MR. [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S IT FOR THE QUESTIONS.

CONFIRMATORY BYLAW.

[18. CONFIRMATORY BY-LAW]

I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING.

[INAUDIBLE] CLOSED SESSION, IF APPLICABLE, I WOULD REQUEST THAT CLOSED SESSION ITEMS BE DEFERRED TO MONDAY THE 17TH.

NO IS THE 19TH.

19TH.

COULD I REQUEST THAT THE CLOSED SESSION ITEMS BE DEFERRED TO MONDAY, APRIL 19TH, FOLLOWING STANDING COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS WITH THAT, THAT TIMING? HOPEFULLY WE'RE ALL AVAILABLE ON THAT MONDAY NIGHT.

NO QUESTIONS.

I WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE.

YOU WON'T BE AVAILABLE THAT EVENING, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

NOT EVEN FOR THE STANDING COMMITTEES.

NO, I DON'T BELIEVE I WILL BE.

WOULD YOU BE UPSET IF OUR CAO FILLS YOU IN ON THE ON THE MEETING, OR WOULD YOU LIKE THE LIKE US TO LOOK AT ANOTHER TIME FRAME? NO, DON'T HOLD UP THE PROCESS ON MY BEHALF.

OK, THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

WHAT ARE WE.

I LOST WHAT WE'RE VOTING FOR.

FINAL ONE, CONFIRMATORY BYLAW, EIGHTEEN POINT ONE BYLAW 21-31 BEING A BYLAW TO CONFIRM THE PROCEEDINGS OF COUNCIL AT ITS MEETING HELD APRIL 12 2021.