[00:00:04] CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER THIS A REGULAR SCHEDULE MEETING FOR THE CITY OF [1. CALL TO ORDER] ELLIOT LAKE. MONDAY, APRIL 20. WE'LL CALL ON MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING. I'D ASK IF THERE'S ANY DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST AT THIS TIME. [3. DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST] COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, I'M DECLARING AN INDIRECT PECUNIARY CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ITEM EIGHT ONE ELLIOT LAKE JUNIOR HOCKEY [INAUDIBLE] AND ANY SUBSEQUENT RESOLUTIONS OR BYLAWS RESULTING FROM THE DISCUSSION. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. ANY OTHER DECLARATIONS THIS EVENING? SEEING NONE. ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES, FOUR POINT ONE COUNCIL MINUTES, APRIL 12, [4. ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES] 20 21 REGULAR AND APRIL 19, 2021 SPECIAL. CAN I HAVE A MOVER TO ADOPT THE MINUTES, PLEASE? MOVE BY COUNCILLOR MANN. SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE ON THAT ROLL CALL, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR MANN. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR CYR. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR TURNER. IN FAVOR. AND COUNCILLOR PEARCE. IN FAVOR. THOSE ARE CARRIED, THANK YOU. NO PUBLIC PRESENTATION THIS EVENING, INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE [6. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS] REPORTS, SIX POINT ONE REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF 100 K DIESEL GENERATOR AT CITY HALL. RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF REPORT FAC 2021 01 DATED APRIL 21, 2021. OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED IN THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE ADDITIONAL COST OF TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED SIXTY EIGHT OVER THE APPROVED 2021 CAPITAL BUDGET COST OF SEVENTY ONE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED THIRTY TWO TO PURCHASE AND INSTALL ONE ONE HUNDRED KILOWATT DIESEL GENERATOR AT THE CITY HALL, AND THAT THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND SEVEN SIXTY EIGHT BE BUDGETED TOWARDS BUILDING A FACILITY RESERVE. CAN I HAVE A MOVER FOR THAT, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER. SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, THANK YOU. MR. HALLOCH, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. YES, THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. YEAH, THERE WAS A REPORT BROUGHT TO COUNCIL IN 2020 WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL PROJECT AND THERE WAS AN APPROVAL TO HIRE INSIGHT TECHNOLOGIES OF THE SAULT ST. MARINE TO PROVIDE STAFF WITH ENGINEERING DRAWINGS AND A MORE DETAILED LIST OF WHAT WAS REQUIRED TO COMPLETE AND INSTALL A DIESEL GENERATOR AT CITY HALL. WITH THE INFORMATION THAT THE CITY IS NOW READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. SO IT WAS RECOMMENDED BY COUNCIL THAT CITY STAFF RETURN TO COUNCIL ONCE A MORE DEFINITIVE COST WAS KNOWN IN REGARDS TO THE PURCHASE OF THE ONE HUNDRED KILOWATT DIESEL GENERATOR AT CITY HALL. INSIGHT TECHNOLOGIES COMPLETED ITS WORK AND SUPPLIED THE CITY WITH AN ENGINEER DRAWINGS, AS WELL AS A DETAILED LIST OF SUPPLIES REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THE INSTALL. SO BY INSTALLING ONE HUNDRED KILOWATT DIESEL GENERATOR. NOT ONLY WILL IT OFFER ENOUGH POWER TO OPERATE EVERYTHING REQUIRED IN CITY HALL. SUPPLYING BACKUP POWER TO THE FIRE HALL IN THE FUTURE IF REQUIRED. SO BASICALLY A BREAKDOWN WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NEW COSTING NOW THAT WE HAVE A MORE DEFINITIVE COST THAT WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T KNOW BACK IN 2020. AND THAT STAFF IS REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF AN ADDITIONAL TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED SIXTY EIGHT TO BE BUDGETED TOWARDS THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF THE. THE TOTAL PROJECT COST OF ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND. SO BASICALLY, WE WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, COUNCIL APPROVED THE CAPITAL PROJECT BUDGET OF SEVENTY ONE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO. SO BASICALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT A BREAKDOWN OF IT WAS FIFTY THOUSAND FOR THE ACTUAL ONE HUNDRED KILOWATT DIESEL GENERATOR. TWENTY THOUSAND WILL BE FOR THE CEMENT PAD, FENCING AND OTHER PURCHASE OF OTHER SUPPLIES FOR THE TOTAL PROJECT. TWENTY THOUSAND FOR LABOR, AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT TEN THOUSAND FOR A CONTINGENCY JUST IN CASE WE RUN INTO ANYTHING DURING THE ACTUAL PROJECT. SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE TO INVEST UPGRADES TO THE FACILITIES, INCLUDING CITY HALL. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE APPROVAL OF THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED SIXTY EIGHT TOWARDS THIS INSTALLATION. THE COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT WILL GUARANTEE LIKE I SAID A POWER SOURCE FOR THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GROUP WHEN UTILIZING THE FACILITY AS A COMMAND CENTER. BASICALLY AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SWITCH, WHICH WILL HAVE A SURGE PROTECTOR ALSO INVOLVED, WILL PROTECT THE CITY SERVICE DURING A POWER INTERRUPTION. AND THEN WE HAVE, LIKE I SAID, FUTURE ABILITY TO TIE INTO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IF THEY IF THEY WANT, REQUIRE THE ACTUAL BACKUP POWER AS WELL. SO YOU'RE LOOKING TO GET THE APPROVAL SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE NOTICING IN THE MARKET RIGHT NOW IS PRICES ARE [00:05:01] GOING UP NONSTOP. LIKE LAST YEAR. WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE GOT THE GENERATOR FOR POSSIBILITY OF TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS. BUT EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE GOING UP. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT. AND THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS? I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH. COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. HALLOCH, THANK YOU FOR OBVIOUSLY SPECKING OUT SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE LARGER THAN JUST THE REQUIREMENTS OF CITY HALL CONSIDERING THE PROXIMITY TO THE FIRE HALL, I THINK THAT THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE TIMELINE TO COMPLETION IF APPROVED TONIGHT. SO IF APPROVED TONIGHT, I WE WERE LOOKING INTO IT, SOME OF THE THINGS ARE COMING IN IN PRETTY GOOD TIME. I DON'T WANT TO GUARANTEE EVERYTHING BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT. SO IT'S ALL GOING TO DEPEND ON WHEN PARTS AND EVERYTHING COME IN. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT OBVIOUSLY WHO WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO HIRE TO HELP OUT WITH THE ACTUAL PROJECT TO GET THE ELECTRICAL WORK DONE. BUT AS YOU NOTICED IN THE REPORT I PUT THERE, TOO, IS WE'RE GOING TO GET PUBLIC WORKS TO CREW TO TAKE CARE OF THE CEMENT PAD AND THE FENCING AND SOME WORK DONE BY OBVIOUSLY AS MUCH STAFF WORK AS WE CAN. WE'LL ORDER UP ALL THE PARTS AND EVERYTHING. SO IT'LL JUST BE A MATTER OF DELAY. SO IF EVERYTHING WORKS AND COMES IN ON GOOD TIME, WE'LL HAVE THIS. WE SHOULD HAVE IT ALL INSTALLED WITHIN THE I'M GOING TO PROBABLY SAY, BY THE, I MIGHT AS WELL GIVE YOU A SAFE, SAFE BET AND SAY BEFORE THE END OF THE SUMMER, EVERYTHING WILL BE DONE. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THROUGH YOU, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF SPENDING THIS, WE STARTED IN THE THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLAR BUDGET. NOW WE'RE UP TO ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. THE FACT THAT WE'RE GETTING A GENERATOR THAT'S BIG ENOUGH TO SUPPLY THE FIRE HALL, YET WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE SPENDING THE MONEY FOR THE PANELS, THE LABOR, THE HUNDREDS OF YARDS OF UNDERGROUND CABLING THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED. I THINK WE'RE BETTER OFF TO BUY WHAT WE REQUIRE FOR CITY HALL. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THE FIRE STATION, DO IT, SEPARATE THE POINT OF A HUNDRED KILOWATT GENERATOR IS OVERKILL A LITTLE. ONE HUNDRED KILOWATTS WOULD PROBABLY DO THE CITY HALL, THE POLICE STATION AND THE FIRE HALL. WITH THAT MUCH POWER, WE DON'T REQUIRE THAT FOR BACKUP. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO END UP SPENDING TWENTY TO THIRTY OR FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS ADDITIONALLY TO CONNECT TO THE FIRE HALL WITH SEPARATE SWITCHING AND SO FORTH AS WELL. I JUST I DON'T AGREE WITH DOING IT THIS WAY. I DO AGREE THAT WE SHOULD BE PUTTING A BACKUP GENERATOR FOR CITY HALL, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD BE GOING TO SOMETHING SMALLER AND SAVING THAT MONEY AND USING IT TOWARDS THE FIRE HALL. IF STAFF WANTS TO COME FORWARD WITH A REPORT TO ACTUALLY PUT ONE AT THE FIRE HALL. AND IF I CAN RESPOND TO THAT, I'VE OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS. WHEN EVERYTHING COMES UP AND LOOKING AT IT, WE WERE LOOKING DOWN TO 80 KILOWATT GENERATOR PRICE DIFFERENCE WAS TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT IT. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, WE MIGHT AS WELL BE PREPARED FOR FOR THE FIRE HALL IN THAT IN THAT MATTER. AND THEN ORIGINALLY LAST YEAR, YOU ARE CORRECT, WE CAME OUT WITH A THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLAR PROJECT AND WHEN WE BROUGHT IT TO COUNCIL, I BELIEVE WHEN IT WAS REQUESTED TO COME BACK, WE WERE ASKING FOR NINETY THOUSAND LAST YEAR. AND YOU WANTED A MORE DEFINITIVE ACTUAL COST BEFORE WE CAME BACK. SO WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON AND BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF COVID COMING OUT WITH A CONTINGENCY OF TEN THOUSAND ON IT, WE'RE RIGHT AROUND THAT PRICE ANYWAYS. SO I'M HOPING I WAS ACTUALLY HAPPY TO COME BACK WITH A PRICE THAT WE GOT RIGHT NOW ON THIS, AND IT WASN'T EVEN INFLATED EVEN MORE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE LOOKING AT ORIGINALLY WAS PLACING A TENDER OUT THERE. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT NORMALLY WHEN PEOPLE ARE HIRING OR CONTRACTS ARE PRICING OUT EVERYTHING HERE, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN INCREASED COST ACROSS THE BOARD WITH SUPPLIES AND EVERYTHING. SO THIS IS WHAT WE CAME UP WITH US ORDERING EVERYTHING, HIRING OUT THE LABOR FOR IT. AND THIS WOULD BE THE BEST PRICE THAT I THINK WE CAN GET. I COULD LOOK BACK INTO THE ACTUAL GENERATOR, BUT I BELIEVE WHEN WE WERE LOOKING INTO TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS WAS THE DIFFERENCE. SO THIS IS WHY WE WENT UP TO THE ONE HUNDRED K AND STUCK WITH IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? OK, SEEING NONE, I'LL GO ROLL CALL VOTE. I'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE THIS TIME. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR MANN. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR TURNER. FAVOR. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR CYR. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. OPPOSED. I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED. SIX POINT TWO REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS COMPACT UTILITY TRAILER OR TRACTOR SORRY. RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF REPORT FLT 2021-04 FOR THE SUPPLY OF ONE COMPACT TRACTOR DATED APRIL 20, 2021 OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED AND THAT CONTRACT FLT 2021-04 FOR THIS FIVE ONE COMPACT UTILITY TRAILER IN THE AMOUNT OF TWENTY THREE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND SIXTY DOLLARS NINETY FIVE CENTS PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES BE AWARDED TO TRACKS & WHEELS EQUIPMENT BROKERS, INC. CAN I HAVE A MOVER FOR THIS PLEASE? [00:10:03] MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE. MR. HALLOCH, ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE THANK YOUR WORSHIP. GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND ON THIS ONE. THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE HAD SIGNED A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT AGREEMENT WITH ONTARIO PARK IN 2013 THAT ALLOWED THE CITY STAFF TO TAKE OVER BOTH THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF THE MISSISSAGI PARK TO PREVENT THE PLANNED CLOSURE BACK IN 2013. IT SINCE HAS EXTENDED THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT. THE AGREEMENT ALLOWS THE CITY STAFF TO UTILIZE ASSETS OWNED BY ONTARIO PARKS, BUILDINGS, CAMPSITES, WASHROOMS, DOCKS AND EQUIPMENT TO HELP MAINTAIN CURRENT LEVELS OF SERVICE THROUGHOUT THE PARK. AS IN THE PAST, UNFORTUNATELY, A LARGE AMOUNT OF THE EQUIPMENT LEFT BY ONTARIO IS WAS TOO EXPENSIVE TO REPAIR AND NO LONGER HAS PARTS AVAILABLE, SUCH AS THE CURRENT UTILITY TRACTOR, WHICH HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM SERVICE DUE TO HEALTH AND SAFETY CONCERNS. THERE WAS A TENDER RELEASED WAS POSTED ON BIDS AND TENDERS AND THE CITY WEBSITE FOR THE SUPPLY OF THE COMPACT UTILITY TRACTOR. THE TENDER CALLED FOR SPECIFICATIONS THAT MET, MET OR EXCEEDED THE EXISTING FLEET SPECIFICATIONS AND ENCOURAGED STANDARDIZATION WITH EXISTING EQUIPMENT WHERE POSSIBLE. BASICALLY, WE GOT ONE. WE ENDED UP GETTING ONE BID AND THAT'S THE BID THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE FROM TRACKS & WHEELS WITH ALL THE SPECIFICATIONS AT TWENTY THREE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED SIXTY PLUS HSD FOR A TWENTY FOUR HORSEPOWER COMODO UTILITY TRACTOR. THERE WAS A REVIEW OF THE TENDER PACKAGE WAS UNDERTAKEN, DIMENSIONAL AND PERFORMANCE SPECIFICATIONS AND EVERYTHING CAME OUT GOOD. SO BASICALLY THE BID PRICE OF TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED SIXTY PLUS TAXES WAS UNDER THE APPROVED 2021 CAPITAL BUDGET OF TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND. THE NEW COMPACT UTILITY TRACTOR WILL BECOME A CITY ASSET AND WILL REMAIN WITH THE CITY FLEET IF THE PARK CLOSES IN THE FUTURE. SO THAT'S ONE THING BY PURCHASING A TRACTOR. YES, IT WILL BE USED TO MAINTAIN OUT THERE, BUT IT WILL STILL BE A CITY ASSET MOVING FORWARD. SO BASICALLY STAFF'S LOOKING FOR COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE THAT COMES TO MAINTAINING THE MISSISSAGI PARK AND TO TRACKS & WHEELS. AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S IT'S IT FOLLOWED ALL THE SPECIFICATIONS AND EVERYTHING WORKED OUT, SO AND THAT WOULD BE AT TWENTY THREE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED SIXTY PLUS TAX. AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. HALLOCH. COUNCILLOR CYR. YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU, MY QUESTION, I GUESS, IS, IS THIS A NEED OR WANT? JUST CONSIDERING THE CURRENT PANDEMIC ENVIRONMENT. I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT'S ACTUALLY ESSENTIAL TO THE OPERATION OF THE PARK OR DO WE NOT HAVE ANY EQUIPMENT IN OUR CURRENT FLEET THAT COULD PERFORM THE NEEDED ACTIVITIES THAT THIS THAT THIS WOULD DO? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SPENDING IF WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO, CONSIDERING WE ARE IN A PANDEMIC EMERGENCY. YEAH, THE ANSWER THAT THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE NEED, NOT A WANT. SO THERE'S A THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF OUT AT THE PARK AND IN OUR EQUIPMENT, IS BUSY WORKING ON PROJECTS CONSTANTLY IN TOWN. AND WE HAVE THE OTHER ASPECT, TOO, OF ALWAYS HAVING THE LOAN EQUIPMENT OUT OR TAKE IT ALL THE WAY UP TO MISSISSAGI PARK. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT GAS AND EVERYTHING ELSE FROM THERE TOO, ANYTHING BIGGER, YOU START GETTING INTO THE ACTUAL WHERE YOU NEED AN EQUIPMENT OPERATOR FROM TOWN RUNNING IT AS OPPOSED TO UNION RULES. AND THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES WITH THAT. SO HAVING SOMETHING THIS SIZE ALLOWS THE PARK STAFF TO RUN IT OUT THERE AND THERE'S NO GRIEVANCES OR ANYTHING ON THAT PART AS WELL. SO AND IT IS DEFINITELY A NEED. COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOUR WORSHIP. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE PROVINCE DIDN'T LEAVE SOME EQUIPMENT THAT WAS IN BETTER CONDITION FOR US TO USE WHEN WE TOOK OVER THE PARK. CLEARLY, IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE OPERATING THE PARK, WE NEED THIS EQUIPMENT. SO I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH IT. I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS EQUIPMENT IN THE WINTER. MR. HALLOCH, DOES THIS RETURN BACK TO THE COMMUNITY OR IS IT LOCKED UP AND STAYED UP THERE JUST AND ARE THERE ANY ISSUES WITH LEAVING EQUIPMENT OF THIS MAGNITUDE IN AN AREA THAT'S ESSENTIALLY CLOSED OFF IN THE WINTER MONTHS? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. NOW, THERE IS STORAGE OUT THERE WHERE THIS COULD BE STORED IN A LOCKED BUILDING. AND IF WORST CASE SCENARIO, THAT SOMETHING ENDED UP SOMETHING ELSE FROM THE PARK ENDED UP OUT THERE, WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO TOWN AND STORED HERE AT THE PUBLIC WORKS YARD. OK, THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU THROUGH YOU, MR. HALLOCH. WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC AND DELIVERY IS TERRIBLE. I KNOW [INAUDIBLE] IS HAVING PROBLEMS SUPPLYING STUFF. I BOUGHT ONE THIS YEAR AND IT TOOK FOREVER TO GET ALL THE PARTS AND PIECES. WHAT IS DELIVERY OR HAVE THE DISCUSSED DELIVERY WITH YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET IT FOR THIS SEASON? YES. SO THE ANSWER TO THAT YET IT'S IN STOCK. WE'VE GOT THE ONE. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WERE TRYING TO GET THE TENDER OUT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. BECAUSE YOU ARE CORRECT, IF WE DIDN'T GET THIS ONE, WE WOULDN'T BE GETTING ONE THIS [00:15:03] YEAR, SO. SO, YEAH, WE HAVE ONE RESERVED FOR US THERE. IF I MAY, JUST ONE FOLLOW UP. SURE. ARE THERE ATTACHMENTS REQUIRED, TRACKER'S PRETTY MUCH USELESS UNTIL YOU PUT ATTACHMENTS ON IT? SO ARE THERE ATTACHMENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS PRICE? AND IF NOT, ARE THE EXISTING ATTACHMENTS FROM THE UNIT THAT IS AT THE PARK THAT IS NO LONGER VIABLE? ARE THEY INTERCHANGEABLE WITH THIS TRACTOR AS WELL? SO TO ANSWER THAT, ANYTHING ON THE OLD TRACTOR, NO, WILL NOT GO ON TO THIS ONE, THE OTHER ONE WAS PRETTY LIMITED TO WHAT IT HAD AS WELL. IT HAD A AN ACTUAL BUCKET ON IT. THIS ONE HAS A BUCKET AND IT ACTUALLY HAS THE OTHER. GOOD LITTLE FEATURE ON THIS ONE, TOO, IS IT HAS A LITTLE BLACK HOE SHOVEL ON THE BACK OF IT SO WE CAN DIG ANY OF THE DITCHING OR IF WE HAVE ANY PIPE PROBLEMS WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE WATER OVER THERE THAT ALSO HAS THAT ABILITY AS WELL. SO AND FUTURE WISE, WE COULD ALSO BUY ATTACHMENTS FOR CUTTING GRASS AND STUFF WITH THIS ACTUAL UNIT. BUT RIGHT NOW IT COMES WITH EVERYTHING WE HAVE AND NEED MOVING FORWARD JUST TO GET BY. SO. GOOD, GOOD. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. HALLOCH, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. YOU AND I BOTH KNOW HOW DILAPIDATED THE EQUIPMENT IS UP THERE. AND TO ANSWER COUNCILLOR CYR'S QUESTION, THIS IS MORE THAN A NEED. THAT EQUIPMENT IS DANGEROUS AND THAT TRACTOR IN PARTICULAR, AND SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS, THAT IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED UP AT THE PARK, THE WINTER STORAGE. YEAH, THERE IS STORAGE UP THERE. BUT AGAIN, I THINK I WOULD AGREE THAT THIS TRACTOR WOULD PROBABLY BE COMING DOWN FOR THE FOR THE WINTER STORAGE RATHER THAN STAYING UP THERE. AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK MR. HALLOCH FOR TAKING. MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE PROPER EQUIPMENT TO KEEP OUR PEOPLE SAFE UP THERE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. HALLOCH ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR ROLL CALL, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR TURNER. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR MANN. IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR PEARCE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR CYR. IN FAVOR. I'M IN FAVOR, THAT'S CARRIED. SIX POINT THREE REPORT FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, RE: INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL LAND. RECOMMENDATION OF THE REPORT OF THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DATED APRIL 22, 2021 BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL SUPPORT PHASE ONE APPLICATIONS TO BOTH FEDNOR AND NOHSC FOR THE FOX DRIVE SERVICING PROJECT AND AN ESTIMATED TOTAL PROJECT COST OF EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND. AND THAT DIRECTION BE GIVEN TO STAFF TO UNDERTAKE INSTALLATION OF THE FOX DRIVE SERVICING PROJECT TO BE FINANCED BY THE CITY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE 2021 CAPITAL BUDGET. AFTER SUCCESSFUL NOTIFICATION OF PHASE ONE FUNDING SUBMISSIONS AND THAT STAFF BE DIRECTED TO COMPLETE AN RFP FOR THE FOR CONSULTING SERVICES FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR FUTURE INDUSTRIAL PARK AT ELLIOT LAKE AIRPORT TO BE FUNDED BY THE INVESTMENT READINESS PROJECT IN THE 2021 CAPITAL PROJECT BUDGET. MOVER, PLEASE. MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE. SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER. GOOD EVENING, MS. VLAHOVICH. GOOD EVENING. SO AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, SORRY ABOUT MY VOICE TONIGHT, BUT I'LL TRY AND GET THROUGH IT. SO AS COUNCIL HAS BEEN AWARE WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF SHOVEL READY, SERVICED INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL LAND AND WE INTEND TO ADDRESS THIS WITH SERVICING OF FOX DRIVE. WITH THAT, WE'VE COME INTO AN ISSUE OF THE FACT THAT WE NEED AN ANCHOR TENANT TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE FUNDING FROM NOHOC OR FEDNOR. THIS HAS CAUSED A DELAY AND IT'S HARD TO GET AN ANCHOR TENANT TO COMMIT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE FOR WHEN THE LAND WILL BE SERVICED. SO IT IS RECOMMENDED TONIGHT THAT WE REAPPLY TO BOTH FEDNOR AND NOHSC FOR PHASE ONE FOR FOX DRIVE. AND ONCE WE OBTAIN THE PHASE ONE APPROVALS, THAT WOULD BE OUR ELIGIBILITY DATE. AND ONCE WE HAVE THE ELIGIBILITY DATE, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT STAFF BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WITH SERVICING OF THE LAND TO BE ABLE TO GAIN THAT ANCHOR TENANT AND HOPEFULLY CLAIM BACK THE COSTS FOR THAT LAND SERVICING PROJECT. AND THEN IT'S ALSO AN UNDERSTANDING OF STAFF. THE COUNCIL HAS AN INTEREST IN HAVING AN INDUSTRIAL PARK AT THE ELLIOT LAKE AIRPORT, AND IN ORDER TO START WORKING TOWARDS THAT, IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT IT RFP BE COMPLETED AND MARKETED TO OBTAIN CONSULTING SERVICES FOR [INAUDIBLE] SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR AN INDUSTRIAL PARK AT THE ELLIOT LAKE AIRPORT. THE RFP AND CONSULTANT WILL ALLOW US TO START BUDGETING. LOOKING AT THAT ACCORDINGLY, AS THE COST TO SERVICE OUT OF THE AIRPORT ARE SUBSTANTIALLY [00:20:01] HIGHER THAN THOSE IN TOWN. THANK YOU, MS. VLAHOVICH. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU. I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE RESOLUTION. AND MS. VLAHOVICH'S COMMENTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I WANT TO CHANGE. AT THE END OF THE THIRD PARAGRAPH CAPITAL BUDGET, AFTER SUCCESSFUL NOTIFICATION OF PHASE ONE FUNDING SUBMISSIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE SUBMISSIONS TO APPROVAL, AND I WOULD CONSIDER THAT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IF THE MOVER AND SECONDER ARE AMENABLE TO THAT. OK, MOVER AND SECONDER, DOES THAT SOUND REASONABLE? YEAH, MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. THANK YOU AGAIN, MS. VLAHOVICH, I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THIS, AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, LAND'S DISAPPEARING FAIRLY QUICKLY. SO IT'S GOOD TO STAY AHEAD OF THE GAME AND LOOK AT ALL OUR OPTIONS. SO QUITE, QUITE PLEASED WITH THIS. I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE. COUNCILLOR TURNER, YOU HAD A QUESTION. YOUR MUTED. SUPPOSE THIS SOUNDS BETTER. WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING AN AMENDMENT ON PARAGRAPH THREE TO INCLUDE. SUCCESSFUL SUBMISSIONS, IS THAT CORRECT? NO, THE PHASE ONE FUNDING APPROVAL RATHER THAN SUBMISSION. CURRENTLY, IT'S STATING THAT WE GO FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT UPON SUBMISSION, BUT I BELIEVE THE INTENT WAS UPON APPROVAL OF FUNDING APPLICATIONS, CORRECT MS. VLAHOVICH? YEAH. IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE IT ALREADY SAYS WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS . AFTER SUCCESSFUL NOTIFICATION OF PHASE ONE FUNDING SUBMISSIONS, SUCCESSFUL MUST BE ADDED. WHO IS THIS COMMENT, YOUR WORSHIP. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR TURNER, MR. GAGNON DID YOU HAVE NO, NOTHING. OK, ROLL CALL, VOTE. I'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR MANN. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR CYR. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR TURNER. FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PATRIE AS AMENDED IN FAVOR. [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S CARRIED. SIX POINT FOUR REPORT FROM THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER RE: ESTEN LAKE. RECOMMENDATION WHEREAS THE CITY HAS EXPERIENCED AN ACUTE SHORTAGE OF HOUSING AND UNPRECEDENTED LOW VACANCY RATES, AND WHEREAS RESIDENTIAL WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT IS KEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY WITH PROVEN ECONOMIC RESULTS. AND WHEREAS THE CITY PRESENTLY OWNS TO THE HIGH WATER MARK LAND ON THE EASTERN END OF ESTEN LAKE, AND WHEREAS NOT ONLY WATERFRONT BUT SERVICED RURAL ESTATE LOTS IS ANOTHER KEY POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY. THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT CITY ADMINISTRATION BE DIRECTED TO PURSUE DEVELOPMENT OF WATERFRONT AND ESTATE LOTS IN THE ESTEN LAKE AREA, INCLUDING THE PLANNING AND REGULATORY PROCESS AND PUBLIC INDIGENOUS CONSULTATION WHERE REQUIRED. CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE. SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, THANK YOU. MR. GAGNON, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. YES. THANK YOU. YOUR WORSHIP, WE'VE BEEN COMING AT THIS FROM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ANGLES AS THE MOTION STATES THAT WE'VE SEEN A VERY LOW VACANCY RATES AND A LARGE DEMAND FOR HOUSING ACROSS THE SPECTRUM, FROM RENTAL TO HOMES TO WATERFRONT, EVERYTHING. THE PHONE IS RINGING. THIS TREND WAS HAPPENING BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, THE PANDEMIC ONLY MAKES THAT MORE ACUTE NOW WITH MORE PEOPLE WANTING TO LEAVE THE BIG [INAUDIBLE] TO COME TO ELLIOT LAKE. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. WE SAW THE SUCCESS OF THE EARLY COTTAGE PROGRAM, BUT COTTAGE PROGRAM, AS WE KNOW, IS SOMEWHAT COMPLICATED BY THE FACT THAT THE ROAD TO LAKES THAT WE HAD DEVELOPED TO DATE OR FAR FROM THE CITY SERVICES, THE ROAD AND HYDRO COST WAS COSTLY. AND AT SOME POINT WE REALIZED THAT WE HAVE ALREADY LAND THAT WE OWN TO THE HIGH WATER MARK ON SEVERAL LAKES WITHIN THE URBAN AREA, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT OF THE MUNICIPALITY. SO THE RATIONALE THERE IS TO LOOK AT SOME OF THAT LAND THAT WE ALREADY OWN. WE DO NOT NEED TO ACQUIRE THE LAND FROM THE CROWN AND SUBDIVIDED AND SELL IT IF WE ALREADY OWN THE LAND. AND THE LAND ON THE EASTERN END OF ESTEN LAKE IS CASE LIKE THAT WHERE WE HAVE [00:25:03] RELATIVELY CLOSE WATER AND SEWER, WE COULD PUNCH A ROAD IN FROM THE ESTEN AREA OVER INTO THE EASTERN END OF ESTEN LAKE AND WE COULD BE DEVELOPING TWENTY THREE WATERFRONT LOTS SIMILAR TO A COTTAGE STYLE WATERFRONT WITH TWO HUNDRED FEET OF FRONTAGE, ONE POINT SEVEN ACRES AND APPROXIMATELY 28 ESTATE LOTS THAT WOULD BE SERVICED NOT ON WATER, BUT IN THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT THERE. AGAIN, BOTH OF THESE WOULD BE WATER AND SEWER SERVICED LOTS. SO THAT IS HELPFUL FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STANDPOINT AND MORE ATTRACTIVE PERHAPS TO A LOT OF BUYERS BECAUSE OF THE SERVICES. FIRE DEPARTMENT IS NEARBY. SO THERE'S A LOT OF PLUSES TO THAT. WE DISCUSSED THIS IN CLOSED SESSION, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY IN OPEN SESSION TO REAFFIRM COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AND GIVE US THE GO AHEAD TO CONTINUE TO PURSUE THIS. THIS IS VERY, VERY HIGH LEVEL. I SHOULD CAUTION THE NUMBERS AND THE MAP IS A LITTLE BIT RUDIMENTARY. WE'VE JUST BEGUN RESEARCHING THIS. THERE'S A LOT OF AT LEAST A YEAR'S WORTH OF ENVIRONMENTAL AND REGULATORY PROCESSES INVOLVED. WE NEED TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL PLAN AND ZONING TO PERMIT THAT TO GO AHEAD. THAT WILL INVOLVE PUBLIC CONSULTATION. WE HAVE A STRATEGIC PLANNING EXERCISE IN THE NEAR FUTURE OR CERTAINLY THIS YEAR. SO THIS WOULD FIGURE PROMINENTLY INTO THAT. SERVICING TO WATER AND SEWER WOULD REQUIRE PUBLIC CONSULTATION, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS OF THE TYPES OF STUDIES ARE LAID OUT IN THE REPORT. BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN, WE WOULD BEGIN THE PROCESS AND THEN RETURN TO COUNCIL WHEN WE NEED TO FOR FUNDING FOR VARIOUS OF THOSE STEPS, BEGIN THE PROCESS AND BASICALLY JUST CONFIRM THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION COUNCIL WANTS US MOVING IN. AND I PUT A FEW NOTES IN THE REPORT AS WELL THAT THIS IS NOT GOVERNED BY THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE ACT, THIS IS MUNICIPAL LAND THAT WE ALREADY OWN. THE CITY WOULD BE MANAGING THIS PROJECT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T CONSULT WITH AND WORK ON THE EXPERTISE THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS ON COTTAGE ANGLE. BUT THIS IS NOT PART OF THE ELLIOT LAKE ACT, THIS IS STRAIGHT UP CITY DEVELOPMENT. SO WE WOULDN'T BE USING THE FUNDS IN THE WATERFRONT RESERVE. THIS WOULD BE FUNDED BY THE CITY ON ITS OWN. THANK YOU, MR. GAGNON, VERY MUCH APPRECIATED THE WORK YOU'VE DONE SO FAR ON THIS, AND YES, IT IS TRUE THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND THAT SHORTAGE CONTINUES TO GET EVEN SHORTER. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME TO ME ABOUT THIS, THAT THIS PROJECT WILL NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE TRAIL SYSTEMS, THE ESTEN BEACH OR THE BOAT LAUNCH THAT'S ALREADY ON ESTEN. MY UNDERSTANDING IS NO. AGAIN, THIS IS VERY EARLY, PLENTY OF TIME, BUT THE BOAT LAUNCH WAS CONTEMPLATED AND WON'T BE IMPACTED. THE TRAIL ARE NOT. THERE'S A SNOWMOBILE TRAIL IN THAT AREA, BUT THE MOST OF THE TRAILS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THE BEACHES ARE ON THE OTHER END OF THE LAKE AND COMPLETELY UN-IMPACTED BY THIS, [INAUDIBLE]. OK I HAVE COUNCILLOR CYR AND THEN COUNCILLOR PATRIE, COUNCILLOR CYR? THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. MY ONLY PROBLEM IS THE FOUR LOTS THAT BEGIN WITH THE HYDRO LINE, THE REST OF IT. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH. I THINK PERSONALLY, I THINK THE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE TO THE RIGHT OF THE BOAT LAUNCH. BUT FROM THE HYDRO LINE AND THOSE FOUR LOTS TO THE LEFT OF IT, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. AND I [INAUDIBLE] I THINK THAT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE DUMP. I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT AS LONG AS WE WOULD LIMIT IT TO THE RIGHT OF THE HYDRO LINE, WHICH WOULD KIND OF LEND MORE TO A SECLUDED, A NICE LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEN AND THEN I THINK IT WOULD IT WOULD REALLY HAVE MORE APPEAL. SO THAT'S MY COMMENT ON THAT. THANK YOU, MR. GAGNON. ANY ANY COMMENT ABOUT THAT? OR IT'S STILL TOO EARLY IN THE GAME? WELL, THAT WOULD BE MY COMMENT, AS THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME TO NUANCE THOSE THREE OR FOUR LOTS. THE PROXIMITY TO THE LANDFILL AND THE SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT IS PART OF THOSE STUDIES THAT WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT AND ALSO THE MARKETABILITY OF THOSE LOTS AS WELL. SO WE HAVE TO TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. SO THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME TO LOOK AT THAT. THERE IS ALSO A CERTAIN THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH MUNICIPALLY OWNED LAND THAT'S ALREADY IN OUR CONTROL. THERE IS CROWN LAND THAT WE CAN'T BE DEVELOPING THAT WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE [INAUDIBLE] PROCESS, WHICH IS DIFFERENT. SO THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME TO ASSESS THAT AND FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHERE THOSE LOTS WILL GO, IT'S STILL PRETTY EARLY. OK THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU, THROUGH YOU. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK OUR CAO FOR SENDING ME THE DOCUMENTATION FROM THE [00:30:01] CLOSED SESSION STUFF THAT I DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE AND I'M MORE INTERESTED IN. THAT PROPOSAL THEN, WHAT IS BEFORE US TONIGHT, I DON'T AGREE WITH DOING FOUR KILOMETERS OF ROAD, SEWER, WATER, GAS, HYDRO, WHEN WE HAVE MUCH EASIER [INAUDIBLE]. NORDIC LAKE IS NOT EVEN TWO HUNDRED YARDS FROM CURRENT SERVICES. ANGEL LAKE, SAME THING, NOT TWO HUNDRED YARDS. SLIPPER LAKE MIGHT BE THREE OR FOUR HUNDRED YARDS. SO I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH AND I DON'T WANT THIS TAKEN OUT OF IT. I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, MAKE IT ONE [INAUDIBLE]. IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE OUR OFFICIAL PLAN, CHANGE THE OFFICIAL PLAN ONCE, LET'S NOT GO THROUGH ALL THIS REGULATORY STUFF MORE THAN ONE TIME. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, LET'S TRY AND DO IT. WE'LL CHANGE THE ENTIRE OFFICIAL PLAN ENCOMPASS ALL OF THE LOTS, DO THE RESEARCH PLANNING THAT WE NEED TO DO ON ALL OF THOSE. THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN COTTAGE LOT. COTTAGE LOT TAKES YEARS OF SULFUR AND SULFATES AND DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO DO BECAUSE OF [INAUDIBLE] LAKES THROUGH THE COTTAGE LOT PROGRAM. THESE ARE GOING TO BE SERVICED PROPERTIES, WHETHER THEY'RE ESTATE LOTS OR WATERFRONT LOTS. I THINK THAT YOU GO IN AND YOU CHANGE IT ALL, CHANGE THE OFFICIAL PLAN ONCE. AND THEN IF WE HAVE DEVELOPERS WILLING TO DO THIS, WE DO THIS. SO THE ASPECT OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THIS, THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE BEFORE US TONIGHT, NUMBER ONE, I THINK ESTEN LAKE IS A BAD CHOICE. SO WE HAVE LEAKAGE FROM THE DUMP GOING INTO ESTEN LAKE. WE HAVE THE WATERFRONT WATER STATION OR THE SEWAGE PLANT THAT DRAINS INTO LOWER ESTEN THAT OVERFLOWS AND DRAINS BACK INTO ESTEN. WE GOT BLUE GREEN ALGAE ON OCCASION GOING INTO THAT LAKE. SO THE CONTAMINATION IS TOO EASY TO HAPPEN. NOT SAYING IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN A LOT, BUT IT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT HAPPENING AGAIN ON A FIRST ROUND OF SOMETHING. AND THEN WE KILL THE ENTIRE PROJECT. SO AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THAT IS HIGHLY, HIGHLY POPULATED WITH BEARS, WOLVES. THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF WILDLIFE THAT IS THERE BECAUSE OF THE DUMP THAT ARE FORAGING AT THE DUMP. SO THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES. I'D BE IN FAVOR IF WE COULD CHANGE THE MOTION THAT CITY ADMINISTRATION BE DIRECTED TO PURSUE DEVELOPMENT OF WATER LOT, WATERFRONT AND ESTATE LOTS, INCLUDING THE PLANNING AND REGULATORY PROCESSES OF PUBLIC INDIGENOUS CONSULTATION WHERE REQUIRED AND TAKE OUT IN THE ESTEN LAKE AREA. I WOULD WANT THIS TO GO AS AN ENTIRE PROJECT, IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT AND DO IT ALL IN ONE SHOT. YOU ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER, SO THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN HERE SAY FOUR MILLION DOLLARS FOR A ROAD AND POTENTIALLY EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS TO DO FOUR KILOMETERS OF SERVICING ROAD UPGRADES AND SO FORTH, WHEN WE. PUT INTO OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR, A MILLION DOLLARS TO DO SEWER AND WATER FOR SEVERAL HUNDRED YARDS TO DO A 90 UNIT BUILDING. SO I THINK THOSE NUMBERS, THEY'RE VERY PRELIMINARY, BUT I THINK THEY'RE WAY, WAY UNDER SCALED. SO I THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO START THIS PROCESS WITH YOUR EASIER PROJECTS FIRST, AS OPPOSED TO DOING THE LONGEST PROJECT WHEN YOU CAN START AND YOU CAN BRING IN ROADS FROM EITHER END AND DO FINGERLINGS AND DO ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT STUFF. I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED MORE WORK. BUT I DO WANT TO PUT THAT AMENDMENT IN THERE TO REMOVE IN ESTEN LAKE AREA FROM THAT LAST PARAGRAPH. SO THAT IT ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING AND GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS PROVIDED FOR CLOSED SESSION AND DO A NEW PLAN WITH ALL OF THOSE LAKES ENCOMPASSED. SO THERE'S AMENDMENT ON THE END OF THE TABLE TO REMOVE THE WORDING ESTEN LAKE FROM THIS TO OPEN IT UP TO ALL THE AREAS. IS THERE A SECONDER FOR THAT AMENDMENT? NOT AT THIS TIME, MR. GAGNON. COUNCILLOR MANN, YOU'RE SECONDING THE AMENDMENT? MR. GAGNON I DO BELIEVE THAT SOME DISCUSSION HAPPENED AROUND THESE LAKES AND THERE WAS POTENTIALLY REASONING AND RATIONALE FOR THE DIRECTION GIVEN. [00:35:02] YEAH, MY RECOLLECTION WAS ESTEN LAKE WAS THE ONE THAT HAD THE HIGHEST YIELD AND THE MOST AMOUNT OF POTENTIAL LOTS. MANY OF THOSE OTHER LAKES ARE MORE CHALLENGING, COSTLY AND WITH LOWER LOT YIELDS. SO LIKE AT ANGEL OR SLIPPER, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN THE SERVICE AND GO THROUGH ALL THE EXPENSE TO ONLY GET A HANDFUL OF LOTS, IN THIS CASE, WE'RE LOOKING AT 50. THAT GIVES YOU MORE OPPORTUNITY TO SPREAD THAT COST OVER MORE LOTS AND GET YOUR REVENUE BACK. BUT IT'S STILL EARLY. I'M HAPPY TO LOOK AT THE OTHER LAKES. MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL OF NORDIC, IS THAT THE WATER ITSELF IS THE TOPOGRAPHY IS SO HIGH FROM WHERE YOU NEED TO BE TO THE TO THE ACTUAL WATER SHOREFRONT THAT IT'S CHALLENGING. I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD TRY [INAUDIBLE] THAT IN. WE CAN CERTAINLY CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT IN PARALLEL TO ESTEN LAKE. BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD LOSE SIGHT OF ESTEN AS THE MAIN GOAL THAT WAS SELECTED ON PURPOSE BECAUSE IT HAS THE POTENTIAL HIGHEST YIELD NOTWITHSTANDING. TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OVER THE LANDFILL AND WHATNOT, BUT WE THINK THEY CAN BE MITIGATED. IT'S UP TO COUNCIL, OF COURSE. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. A COUPLE OF THINGS, I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, AND MR. GAGNON HAS BROUGHT UP SOME OF THE POINTS THAT I WAS GOING TO BRING UP. WE DID QUITE A DETAILED STUDY OF THE POTENTIAL OF ALL OF THE LAKES, THE SO-CALLED INTER LAKES. AND THIS IS THE LAKE THAT WE CAN DEVELOP THE EASIEST AND GET THE BEST RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT. I DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR PROBLEM WITH TAKING OUT THE YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IN ESTEN AREA OUT IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT AS WE GET INTO THE DETAILED COSTINGS AND. I THINK THE COMMISSION WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE SOME OF OUR FINDINGS ON THAT WITH COUNCIL SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT. BUT I THINK. OVERALL, THE AGREEMENT IS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE START DEVELOPING PROPERTIES IN ELLIOT LAKE THAT WE KNOW WE CAN SELL. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE WE CAN MOVE AHEAD ON THIS. A LOT OF DECISIONS ARE GOING TO BE MADE ALONG THE WAY, BUT ESTEN LAKE I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW AND BY THE WAY, IN TERMS OF WHAT COUNCILLOR PATRIE WAS BRINGING UP TERMS OF CONTAMINATION. ESTEN IS MONITORED ON A REGULAR BASIS BY THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. IT IS A TROUT LAKE. AND AS A CONSEQUENCE, WE DO TAKE VERY GOOD CARE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF M&R. SO THE I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH REMOVING ESTEN FROM THE FROM THE MOTION, AS LONG AS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, MOST LIKELY THAT IS THE AREA WE'RE GOING TO BE DEVELOPING FIRST. IN TERMS OF THE THE DUMP. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY YOU WANT TO HAVE A NEW ROAD. YOU DO NOT WANT TO TAKE THE ROAD INTO THE DUMP AND MAKE A LEFT TURN AT THE DUMP AND TO YOUR NEW HOMES. IT JUST DOESN'T REALLY WORK SO WELL WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO SELL IT. SO I THINK THERE'S ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE GOING FORWARD, AND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE ON IT, AGAIN. I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH ALTERING THE MOTION. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOUR WORSHIP. CLEARLY, I THINK I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET GET IT SECONDED FOR DISCUSSION FOR THIS REASON. CLEARLY, IF WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP THE OFFICIAL PLAN, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME THAT WE OPEN IT UP ONCE ENSURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT PROPERLY FOR ALL THE BOUNDARIES CONTAINED WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY, WHETHER WE AS COUNCIL HAVE A SHORTLIST AND PROVIDE DIRECTION AT THAT POINT. AND ESTEN REMAINS NUMBER ONE AS AN EXAMPLE, WHICH CLEARLY THERE HAS BEEN SOME WORK DONE. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT. BUT I THINK THE COUNCILLOR PATRIE'S POINT IN OPENING IT UP NOW AND THEN IN ANOTHER YEAR WHEN THERE'S POTENTIAL INTEREST, IF SOMEONE COMES FORWARD AND SAYS, I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN LAKE X AND I'M PREPARED TO DO IT ALL MYSELF, WELL, WHY WOULD WE NOT SAY HAVE AT HER? AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ANOTHER RATIONALE. BUT I THINK AS A COUNCIL, WE SET DIRECTION AND WE SET OUR TOP THREE PRIORITY LAKES AND WE MOVE WITH IT. SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE CASE. BUT CLEARLY, ESTEN WOULD BE NEAR THE FRONT OF THAT. AND I GET THAT PER YIELD AND FOR THE OTHER REASONS. THAT'S WHY I MOVED THE MOTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILLOR TURNER. THANK YOUR WORSHIP, I THINK THAT AMENDING THE CITY PLAN AND IN DOING SO ENCOMPASSING ALL THE OTHER POTENTIAL LAKES PROPERTIES, WE MIGHT [00:40:08] CONSIDER IS A GOOD IDEA, BUT I THINK WE COULD HAVE CONCURRENT ACTIONS GOING ON. WE CAN PURSUE THE MORE DETAILED PIECES OF THE ESTEN DEVELOPMENT AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CITY PLAN AND IN THE OTHER LAKES. THANK YOU. ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. IN FAVOR. [INAUDIBLE] I DIDN'T HEAR YOU IS THAT ME? COUNCILLOR TURNER. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR MANN. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR CYR. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. FAVOR. AND I'M IN FAVOR. THE AMENDMENT WAS APPROVED. BACK TO THE MOTION AS AMENDED COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THIS PROJECT COME FORWARD. I THINK THAT TO HAVE THIS ABILITY TO PROVIDE THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE AMAZING AS LONG AS OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE COMES ALONG WITH IT. PEOPLE ARE LEAVING THE CITIES IN DROVES, BUYING UP ANYTHING THEY CAN GET THEIR HANDS ON JUST TO GET OUT. AND AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE INTERNET ACCESS FOR PEOPLE TO WORK FROM REMOTELY, I THINK THAT WE CAN ATTRACT A LOT OF PEOPLE. I THINK THE MIDDLE OF THE PROVINCE IS GOING TO RUN OUT OF PROPERTY SOON AND THEY'RE GOING AT ASTRONOMICAL PRICES. AND I AND I THINK WE NEED TO GET IN THE GAME AND BE IN THE GAME AND STAY IN THE GAME. AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR TO MOVE FORWARD. OUR COTTAGE LOT PROGRAM IS AT A STANDSTILL. AND THIS IS THIS IS A GOOD KICK START TO GET THINGS GOING. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT COUNCILLOR PATRIE BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT TO LOOK AT, NOT TO CUT OFF OUR OPPORTUNITIES AT OTHER PLACES. WHO KNOWS WHAT SOMEONE MIGHT COME UP AND WANT TO DO. ONCE WE ATTRACT DEVELOPERS, THEY WANT A SERVICED PIECE OF PROPERTY TO COME IN AND JUST BUILD IN AND DO STUFF ON. AND IF WE CAN ATTRACT SOMEONE TO DO THAT IN THIS AREA OF THE COUNTRY, I THINK THAT WE'LL ALL BENEFIT FROM IT. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT TO GET STARTED ON. AND I THANK THE COMMISSION FOR THE WORK THEY DID ON THIS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THE MOTION? OK, I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE AS AMENDED, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR CYR. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR MANN. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR TURNER. FAVOR. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. IN FAVOR. I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU. SEVEN PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS. [7. PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS] SEVEN POINT ONE REFERRAL FROM FINANCE AND ADMIN COMMITTEE, RE: PROPERTY TAX POLICY RATES AND LEVY. COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOUR WORSHIP. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF REPORTS, SO I'LL TRY TO BE SUCCINCT WITH EACH OF THEM. AT OUR REGULAR MEETING OF THE FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE HELD LAST MONDAY, APRIL 19, 2021. THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED. THAT REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TREASURER REGARDING PROPERTY TAX POLICY RATES LEVY BE RECEIVED AND THAT THE REPORT WOULD BE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL AND THAT THE PROPORTIONAL SPLIT BETWEEN THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL AND URBAN SERVICE AREA LEVIES BE MAINTAINED AT THE SAME LEVEL AS 2020. NINETY TWO POINT FIVE PERCENT GENERAL AND SEVEN POINT FIVE PERCENT URBAN SERVICE AREA. AND THAT COUNCIL ELIMINATE TAX RATE DISCOUNTS FOR VACANT AND EXCESS LAND AND COMMERCIAL IN INDUSTRIAL CLASSES TO REDUCE THE TAX RATIOS FOR OTHER CLASSES SO AS TO MAINTAIN THE GENERAL BALANCE OF TAXATION ON A CLASS BY CLASS BASIS, AND THAT THE TAX RATIOS OUTLINED IN THIS REPORT BE INCLUDED IN THE APPROPRIATE BYLAW TO LEVY AND COLLECT PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE 2021 TAXATION YEAR. AND I SO MOVE. SECONDER PLEASE. SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOUR WORSHIP, THIS IS AN ANNUAL HOUSEKEEPING ITEM, WE DID HAVE TWO SCENARIOS THAT WERE PRESENTED AT COMMITTEE. SCENARIO ONE WAS ESSENTIALLY A STATUS QUO MODEL WHERE NO CHANGES TO TAX RATIOS WAS TO BE PRESENTED. AND SCENARIO TWO, WHICH IS THE RECOMMENDED APPROACH, IS BASED ON ELIMINATING TAX RATE DISCOUNTS FOR VACANT AND EXCESS LAND AND COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL CLASSES, AGAIN, TO REDUCE THE TAX RATIOS FOR THOSE CLASSES AS TO MAINTAIN THE GENERAL BALANCE OF TAXATION ON A CLASS BY CLASS BASIS. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT WE PICK SCENARIO TWO AS PROPOSED AND OUTLINED IN THE APPENDICES [00:45:01] TWO BY ELIMINATING TAX RATE DISCOUNTS FOR VACANT AND EXCESS LANDS AND THE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL CLASSES, AND BY REDUCING TAX RATIOS FOR THOSE CLASSES SO AS TO MAINTAIN THE GENERAL BALANCE OF TAXATION. AND AGAIN, IT'S ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT WE KEEP THE URBAN SURCHARGE TO GENERAL AT A NINETY TWO POINT FIVE TO SEVEN POINT FIVE SPLIT. THANK YOU COUNCILLOR MANN, COUNCILLOR PEARCE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO COUNCILLOR MANN, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MS. SONNENBURG MIGHT WANT TO JUMP IN AS WELL. WHEN I WAS LISTENING TO THE DEBATE AT COMMITTEE, I WAS A BIT CONFUSED ON ONE PARTICULAR AREA. ARE WE GOING TO BE TAXING VACANT LAND, I.E., FORMER MINING LAND MINE SITES THAT WE WERE NOT TAXING IN THE PAST? WE DID WE DID ACTUALLY ABSOLUTELY DISCUSS THAT COUNCILLOR PEARCE AND I WOULD DEFER TO MS. SONNENBURG FOR THE RESPONSE. MS. SONNENBURG? SORRY, I WAS MUTED. THANK YOU, THROUGH YOU. HISTORICALLY MINING LANDS HAVE BEEN TAXED AT THIRTY FIVE PERCENT DISCOUNT. AND THROUGH THIS PROPOSAL AND THROUGH THIS TAXATION POLICY, TAX POLICY CHANGE, WE WOULD NOW NOT PROVIDE THAT DISCOUNT ON MINING LANDS. SO IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE FOUR OF THE REPORT, IT DETAILS THE COUNT OF THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THIS CHANGE IN TAX POLICY. IT'S ESSENTIALLY APPROXIMATELY ESTIMATED FORTY THOUSAND SHIFT IN TAXATION FROM. FROM A COMBINATION OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL TO THE EXCESS LANDS, WHICH ARE COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND IN THE RURAL AREA, THE MINE LANDS, SO THE TOTAL COUNT IS GIVEN TO YOU ON PAGE FOUR. I DIDN'T SUM IT UP, BUT A QUICK GLANCE, IT'S ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED AND 30, NO 40 ROLES THAT WILL BE AFFECTED. SO MAYBE 450 ROLES. YEAH, MAYBE ABOUT 450 ROLES WILL BE AFFECTED. GRAND TOTAL ON THAT PAGE SEVEN ON THE TABLE FROM TABLE SEVEN. AND IT'S THE EXCESS LAND SENSITIVITY. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE IMPACT ON A ON A PER ROLL BASIS IS GIVEN IN THAT COLUMN. SO IT'S A SHIFT OF ABOUT FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM REGULARLY TAXED LAND IN THAT THAT IS OCCUPIED TO THE EXCESS LANDS AND INCLUDES FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO MINE LANDS THAT WILL NOT BE DISCOUNTED AT THIRTY FIVE PERCENT ANYMORE. IT'LL BE FULLY TAXED. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? COUNCILLOR PEARCE FOLLOW UP. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. YES AND NO. IT DOES ANSWER THE QUESTION AS TO WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE RULING THAT CAME DOWN ON THE HARRIS GOVERNMENT, ON TAXATION OF MINING LANDS AND WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS. PERMISSIBLE UNDER THE RULING BY THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT? YES, IT IS SORRY, THROUGH YOUR WORSHIP. YES, YES, IT IS. AS IT STANDS, THE MINE LANDS ARE CONSIDERED TO BE AND HAVE BEEN FOR MANY YEARS INDUSTRIAL EXCESS. SO THEY WERE TAXED AT A THIRTY FIVE PERCENT DISCOUNT. THIS CHANGE IN TAXATION POLICY, WHICH HAS BEEN DONE ACROSS THE PROVINCE, ELIMINATES THAT DISCOUNT FOR EXCESS LANDS. AND IT SHIFTS THE BALANCE OF TAXATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THROUGH YOU, WITH RESPECT TO COUNCILLOR PEARCE'S QUESTION, DURING THE COMMITTEE, I WAS THE ONE THAT WAS ASKING THAT QUESTION AND THE REASON THAT I'D ASKED IT WHEN THAT HARRIS GOVERNMENT RULING CHANGED. WE WERE IN COURT WITH THE MINING COMPANIES AND WE WERE TRYING TO GET FULL VALUE TAXATION. WHAT HAPPENED IS THE BUILDINGS. ON THE TAILINGS WE WERE AND THE TAILINGS DAMS AND SO FORTH, THE STRUCTURES, WE WERE LOOKING TO GET TAXATION ON THAT AND THAT'S WHEN THE HARRIS GOVERNMENT SAID THAT IT ALL BECOMES VACANT LAND ONCE IT'S A DECOMMISSIONED MINE SITE. AND THAT'S WHERE WE GOT [INAUDIBLE] IN THE END OF THE DEAL. SO IT'S WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING MINIMAL TAXATION, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN WE LOST THAT WAR BACK YEARS AGO WHEN THE GOVERNMENT CHANGED THE RULING. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE ITEM? [00:50:02] SEEING NONE, A ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR TURNER. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR MANN. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR CYR. IN FAVOR. AND ME AS WELL AS THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU. SEVEN POINT TWO REFERRAL FROM THE FINANCE AND ADMIN COMMITTEE, RE: FAMILY HEALTH TEAM MUNICIPAL CAPITAL FACILITY, COUNCILLOR MANN. AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. THANK YOUR WORSHIP. AT THE SAME REGULAR MEETING OF FINANCE ADMINISTRATION HELD ON APRIL 19TH, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED, WHEREAS BYLAW 0703 BEING A BYLAW ENTERING INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE FAMILY HEALTH TEAM REPRESENTING PHYSICIANS WITH RESPECT TO CERTAIN SPACE AT THE [INAUDIBLE] TELECOMMUNICATIONS CENTER THAT THE SPACE OCCUPIED BY THE FAMILY HEALTH TEAM BE DEEMED A MUNICIPAL CAPITAL FACILITY. AND WHEREAS COUNCIL PASSED A BYLAW TO PROVIDE FOR THE EXCEPTION OF PROPERTY AND SCHOOL TAXES LEVIED ON THE PROPERTY TO WHICH THE MUNICIPAL CAPITAL FACILITY AGREEMENT APPLIES. THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TREASURER REGARDING THE FAMILY HEALTH TEAM MUNICIPAL CAPITAL FACILITY BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL AUTHORIZE THE PROVISION OF A GRANT TO [INAUDIBLE] IN THE AMOUNT OF EXCUSE ME, THIRTY THREE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY EIGHT DOLLARS AND NINETY SIX CENTS, AND THAT THE APPROPRIATE BYLAW BE ADDED TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. AND I SO MOVE. THANK YOU IS THERE A SECONDER? SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COUNCILLOR MANN IF THERE IS ANY. THANK, YOUR WORSHIP. IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT IN 2007 WITH THE CITY AND [INAUDIBLE] TO LEASE ESSENTIALLY THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE [INAUDIBLE] BUILDING, WHICH IS REFERENCED AS THE FAMILY HEALTH TEAM SPACE. THERE WAS A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE THIS LEASE AGREEMENT. ALSO THERE, THE TAX DEPARTMENT WAS INSTRUCTED TO PROVIDE A CREDIT FOR TAXATION PURPOSES BASED ON TWENTY TWO POINT FOUR PERCENT OF THE TAXES DUE. THIS PRACTICE HAS CONTINUED SINCE 2009 AND HAS BEEN APPROVED BUDGETED EXPENSE IN 2020. THE CREDIT WAS NOT APPROVED BY THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TREASURER, AS THE TREASURER HAD NO AUTHORITY TO DO SO UNDER THE MUNICIPAL ACT WITHOUT THE PROPERTY BEING DEEMED A MUNICIPAL CAPITAL FACILITY. FURTHERMORE, THE LEASE AGREED TO HOLD 702 AND 0703 WERE SET UP IN 2007 AND EXPIRED IN 2017. THE [INAUDIBLE] HAS BEEN NEGATIVELY AFFECTED AS THEY WERE NOT IN RECEIPT OF THE RELIEF THAT THEY HAD TO HAVE COUNTED ON YEAR OVER YEAR. TO THAT EXTENT, THEY ARE SEEKING REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE 2020 YEAR IN THE AMOUNT OF AGAIN THIRTY THREE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED EIGHTY EIGHT DOLLARS AND NINETY SIX CENTS. AND THAT IS I GUESS IT FOR THIS REPORT YOUR WORSHIP. THANK YOU COUNCILLOR MANN. COUNCILLOR CYR QUESTION. IT'S NOT WELL IT'S NOT A QUESTION, BUT IT'S THE CHAIR CAN REMIND THE CITIZENS AT HOME. WHAT EXTREME SUMS OF MONEY THAT [INAUDIBLE] IS CHARGING FOR THE MEDICAL CENTER. JUST SO THAT PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND THE VALUE WE HAVE. ACTUALLY, COUNCILLOR CYR, I, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT TO ME A LITTLE BIT MORE, WHAT WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU REFERENCING? THAT THE LEASE AMOUNT FOR A DOLLAR. OH, YES. OK, THANK YOU. AND WHAT A HUGE [INAUDIBLE]. THANK YOU, COUNCILLORS. YES, THAT'S SPACE IS LEASED FOR A DOLLAR FOR THE PHYSICIANS. FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR COMMUNITY. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU. I GET IT, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ONLY A ONE DOLLAR LEASE, BUT THE BENEFIT OF DECLARING THIS A CAPITAL FACILITY ALLEVIATES US BEING THE TENANT, THEREFORE, IT ALLEVIATES US FROM LIABILITY. [INAUDIBLE] CAN CONTINUE TO LEASE STRICTLY TO THE FAMILY HEALTH TEAM. WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY THAT EXORBITANT RENT OF ONE DOLLAR PER ANNUM, BUT IT TAKES US TOTALLY OUT OF THE EQUATION AND IT ALLEVIATES THE REVENUE FROM THE TAX ROLL AND THE WORK FROM THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT HAVING TO TAKE THIS IN AND OUT OF OUR ACCOUNTS. I'M IN TOTAL FAVOR, VIRTUALLY. THIS IS A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DONE YEARS AGO AND KEEP IT SIMPLE. AND THE PORTION OF THE BUILDING THAT [INAUDIBLE] OWNS BECOMES STRICTLY TAX FREE, [00:55:01] PROVIDING THAT THE FAMILY HEALTH TEAM IS IN THAT FACILITY, IN THAT LOCATION. SO IT JUST CLEANS STUFF UP A LOT BETTER. AND I'M IN AGREEMENT OF PUTTING THIS PAPERWORK IN PLACE. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I JUST WANT TO SAY TO MS. SONNENBURG, TO [INAUDIBLE] STAFF AND TO THE STAFF OF THE FAMILY HEALTH TEAM. THANK YOU. THIS HAS BEEN MONTHS OF RESEARCH AND DIGGING THROUGH FILE BOXES, TRYING TO FIND OUT, FIND ORIGINAL LEASES AND A LOT OF WORK AND MR. GAGNON AS WELL. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS RESOLUTION AND THAT GOING FORWARD MAKES LIFE MUCH EASIER FOR EVERYBODY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? AND THANK YOU, MR. SONNENBURG, AND YOUR TEAM, I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR TURNER. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR CYR. IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR MANN. IN FAVOR. I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED. SEVEN POINT THREE. REFERRAL FROM FINANCE AND ADMIN COMMITTEE RE: ELLIOT LAKE NAMING AND RENAMING POLICY, COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOUR WORSHIP AGAIN AT THE SAME MEETING OF THE FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE HELD ON MONDAY, APRIL 19TH. THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED, LET THE REPORT OF THE SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER DATED MARCH 29, 2021 BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO PROCEED WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE ASSET NAMING AND RENAMING POLICY AND I SO MOVE. SECONDER PLEASE. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COUNCILLOR MANN? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, I'LL JUST PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL AND THEN MAYBE PASS IT OVER TO MR. ANTUNES FOR SOME SPECIFICS. BACKGROUND ON THIS ITEM IS THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN APPROACHED SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST REGARDING RENAMING CITY ASSETS, PRIMARILY STREETS, TO RECOGNIZE THE ACHIEVEMENTS AND LEGACY OF INDIVIDUALS AND RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY. THESE REQUESTS HAVE BEEN SPORADIC, AND BOTH COUNCIL AND STAFF HAVE REALLY HAD NO POLICY OR GUIDANCE WITH RESPECT TO DEEMING THE APPROPRIATENESS OF SAID APPLICATIONS. IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, AT A MEETING OF BYLAW AND PLANNING AND RECREATION, CULTURE COMMITTEES DIRECTION WAS GIVEN TO STAFF TO PREPARE A RENAMING POLICY IN REGARDS TO MUNICIPAL ASSETS. AND THAT POLICY IS BEFORE US. MR. ANTUNES HAS DONE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK IN THIS, AND I DO WANT TO THANK HIM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COME UP REGULARLY. AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SPECIFIC STREETS IN THE REPORT AND IN DISCUSSION WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. IT'S ABSOLUTELY THE RECOMMENDATION OF OTHER COMMUNITIES TO AVOID RENAMING IF POSSIBLE. HOWEVER, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO OTHER THINGS. AND AT THIS POINT, I WOULD PROVIDE THE FLOOR TO MR. ANTUNES JUST TO PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL OF SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF THIS POLICY. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN. MR. ANTUNES, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. THANK YOUR WORSHIP FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THROUGH YOU AND THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN, YEAH. YOU WERE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB WITHOUT ME COUNCILLOR MANN. SO THE POLICY WAS WRITTEN TO COVER STREETS, PARKS, NEIGHBORHOODS AND TRAILS, MUNICIPAL FACILITIES AND THE ASSETS THERE IN. THE BULK OF REQUESTS, AS I UNDERSTOOD TO COUNCIL AND THROUGH MUNICIPALITY WAS FOR STREETS AS COUNCILLOR MANN MADE VERY CLEAR. THROUGH CONSULTING WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT I WAS VERY GRATEFUL FOR THEIR SUPPORT. WE WERE CAUTIONED TO AVOID RENAMING STREETS AS A RULE, THE CEREMONIAL PATH THAT'S OUTLINED IN THE POLICY AS WELL AND IN THE REPORT ACCOMPLISHES RECOGNIZING A SPECIFIC MEMBER OR FAMILY OR EVENT. IT COULD REACH OUT TO THAT, BUT IT DOES THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO CHANGE ANYTHING LEGALLY. IT DOESN'T AFFECT EMERGENCY RESPONDERS. DOESN'T EFFECT MAPS. IT DOESN'T AFFECT VISITORS TO THE COMMUNITIES WITH OUTDATED PAPER MAPS, WHICH STILL DO EXIST OUT THERE IF A STREET NAME GETS CHANGED. SO A CEREMONIAL NAME, THE MUNICIPALITY IS BASICALLY ON THE HOOK FOR THE COST OF A NEW SIGN WITH AN EXTRA ADDITION TO IT, NAMING IT MR. SMITH WAY OR SMITH WAY, EXCUSE ME, OR SMITH DRIVE, SMITH BOULEVARD. AND YOU CAN STILL HAVE A CEREMONY, STILL HAVE AN EVENT. IT CAN STILL BE RECOGNIZED VERY MUCH LIKE HIGHWAY 108 HAS A CEREMONIAL NAME, BUT IT DOESN'T CAUSE ANY RIPPLE EFFECTS TO EMERGENCY SERVICES OR THE MUNICIPALITY [01:00:02] AS A WHOLE. THIS POLICY ALSO COVERS, AS I MENTIONED, PATHS, PARKS, MUNICIPAL ASSETS AND THE ASSETS WITHIN THOSE BUILDINGS. THAT DEALS. WE HAVE A SEPARATE POLICY THAT DEALS WITH SPONSORSHIPS FOR BUSINESSES TO SPONSOR MUNICIPAL ASSETS AND ROOMS AND BUILDINGS. THAT'S DEALT SEPARATELY. BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS POLICY, IT'S MEANT FOR INDIVIDUALS AND PRIVATE CITIZENS. NAMES ON THESE ITEMS. THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES, AS COUNCILLOR MANN MENTIONED. I THINK HE DID A FANTASTIC JOB HERE. YOU COVERED EXACTLY WHAT COUNCIL COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. OPEN THE FLOOR UP TO ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. COUNCILLOR CYR. THANK YOUR WORSHIP. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC'S AWARE THAT EACH AND EVERY CONSIDERATION OF NAMING, RENAMING STREETS OR CITY ASSETS WILL COME TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL EACH AND EVERY TIME SO THAT THE JUST THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE AMPLE NOTICE. AND CONFIDENCE THAT HE WILL BE DEALT BY COUNCIL. MR. ANTUNES, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR CYR FOR POINTING THAT OUT. I TAKE FOR GRANTED THAT WE WENT THROUGH THIS FAIRLY DEEPLY AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL AS WELL. BUT, YES, ABSOLUTELY. THIS HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO GO TO COUNCIL ANNUALLY. AND NOT ONLY WILL THERE BE A, AS YOU STATED, DEALT BY COUNCIL, BUT THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC OPTION OR A PUBLIC PORTION OF IT AS WELL. SO WE'LL GO FOR PUBLIC APPROVAL OR PUBLIC INPUT AS WELL. COUNCIL, OF COURSE, THE PRIVY OF COUNCIL IS TO MAKE THE FINAL CALL, BUT IT WILL CERTAINLY GO ON FOR PUBLIC SCRUTINY AS WELL. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU, THROUGH YOU, SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION AND EDIFICATION THROUGH THE COMMENTS OF COUNCILLOR CYR, IT DOES STATE IN THE POLICY THAT. RENAMING OF STREETS SHOULD BE AVOIDED, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO DO BECAUSE OF THE COST AND THE WORK INVOLVED, IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT APPEARS. THERE'S OFFICIAL PLAN ISSUES. THERE'S SO MANY WORLD WIDE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE TO DO. AND THAT WAS COVERED BY MR. ANTUNES AT THE COMMITTEE. AND THAT'S WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS, BECAUSE I GET IT. IT IS A TON OF WORK. NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE ON THE STREET, IF ANYBODY LIVES ON THE STREET, THE COST TO THE MUNICIPALITY TO CHANGE THE NAME OF SOMETHING OF A ROAD IS ASTRONOMICAL. A FACILITY IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. BUT TO BE NAMING STREETS IS VERY, VERY COSTLY AND VERY TIME CONSUMING FOR STAFF. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, GO FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE, WE'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR TURNER. IN FAVOR. OK, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR MANN, IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. IN FAVOR. THE SCREEN JUST ALL JUMBLED. COUNCILLOR CYR. IN FAVOR. OK, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, DID I GET YOU ALREADY? COUNCILLOR MANN DID I GET YOU? NEED COUNCILLOR PATRIE. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. IN FAVOR. ALL IT TAKES IS ONE PERSON TO DISAPPEAR FOR A MINUTE AND ALL THE CUBES FLY EVERYWHERE IT'S BEAUTIFUL. OK, AND I'M IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU AGAIN. SEVEN POINT FOUR REFERRAL FROM FINANCE AND ADMIN COMMITTEE, RE: CITY MEMORIAL TREE AND BENCH POLICY, COUNCILLOR MANN, ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE. THANK YOUR WORSHIP AGAIN, AT A RELATIVELY BUSY FINANCE AND ADMIN COMMITTEE HELD ON MONDAY, APRIL 19TH, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS RECEIVED THAT THE REPORT OF THE SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER DATED MARCH 31ST, 2021 BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO PROCEED WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ELLIOT LAKE MEMORIAL TREE AND BENCH POLICY. AND I SO MOVE. SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE, THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. AGAIN, JUST TO THANK MR. ANTUNES, INSTEAD OF BRINGING FORWARD THESE NAMING AND SPONSORSHIP POLICIES AS ONE LARGE POLICY, OBVIOUSLY IT'S BEEN DIVIDED UP INTO SMALLER SEGMENTS, WHICH I THINK IS EXTREMELY REASONABLE, VERY CLEAR, AND I THINK THAT WILL BENEFIT US BENEFIT US MOVING FORWARD. AGAIN, WE HAVE HAD OPTIONS IN THE PAST OF INDIVIDUALS WANTING TO DO SOMETHING TO RECOGNIZE OR MEMORIALIZE INDIVIDUALS. AND THIS IS SPECIFICALLY REGARDING TREES AND BENCHES. AS OBVIOUSLY SAID, TWO OPTIONS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED. [01:05:03] SO THE ADOPTION OF EXISTING CITY ASSETS OR OPTION TWO WHERE THE EVENT, IF THERE MAY NOT BE A BENCH OR A TREE AVAILABLE IN A SPECIFIC AREA, THEN YOU CAN HAVE ONE PLANTED. FOR THOSE THAT ARE EXISTING. AN ADOPTER WOULD PURCHASE A FIVE YEAR TERM THAT YOU COULD RENEW. A BENCH, YOU WOULD HAVE A SMALL METAL PLAQUE OR IN A TREE THERE WOULD BE A SMALL CONCRETE PAD PLACED IN THE VICINITY OF THE TREE BASE TO RENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE COMMITMENT OVER THAT TERM, AS WELL AS THERE WOULD BE SPECIFIC TYPES OF TREES THAT COULD BE PURCHASED FROM A LIST THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE AT THE MUNICIPALITY. OTHERWISE, I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY, AGAIN, TO CREATE A RECOGNITION FOR INDIVIDUALS AND TO MEMORIALIZE OTHER INDIVIDUALS. SO HAPPY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. I THINK YOU COVERED ALL POINTS IN THAT REPORT. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, AND THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES, FOR ANOTHER GREAT PROJECT THAT YOU'VE WORKED ON. THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN AMENDMENT I NEED OR I DON'T. I HOPE WE'RE NOT VOTING ON OPTION ONE OR TWO BECAUSE I'M HOPING THERE'S BOTH OPTIONS INCLUDED. OK, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WAS THAT WHEN WE'RE PRESENTED WITH OPTIONS, USUALLY YOU'RE ASKING US TO PICK ONE OR THE OTHER. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. AND I THINK THAT I THINK THAT IT'S A GREAT WAY TO MEMORIALIZE, REMEMBER OR HONOR SOMEBODY THAT'S MADE A CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY OR A CONTRIBUTION TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR TO EVEN REMEMBER THE FAMILY PET. LIKE, THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT HAVE ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS IN WHICH TO EXPRESS THEIR GRATITUDE AND THEIR REMEMBRANCES. AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO DO THAT. MR. ANTUNES DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? THROUGH YOUR YOUR WORSHIP, NOT THAT PROBABLY THE SALES GUY ME COMING OUT, BUT IT'S ALSO A GREAT WAY TO MEMORIALIZE OR RECOGNIZE A SPECIAL FAMILY EVENT, WEDDING ANNIVERSARY, CHILD GRADUATION. IT'S NOT JUST FOR MEMORIAL PURPOSE, BUT A FANTASTIC WAY FOR ANYTHING ELSE. COUNCILLOR TURNER. THANK YOUR WORSHIP. I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE THE PURCHASE PRICE SINCE THE TREE IS SEVEN HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIVE DOLLARS AND INCLUDES A PLAQUE EIGHT BY FIVE. IT'S A LITTLE STEEP FOR A TREE. NOT SURE WHERE WE GOT THE PRICE. DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FULL GROWN TREE TO START WITH, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS THE BENCHES. I LIKE BOTH OF THESE BENCHES, THE TREES. THEY'RE A WONDERFUL THING TO USE AS OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO REMEMBER PLACES, TIMES. BUT THE BENCH, FOR EXAMPLE, IS THIRTY SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS, I BELIEVE. ISN'T THAT A LITTLE STEEP FOR A BENCH THAT'S ONLY GOING TO LAST 15 YEARS? I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHERE WE GOT IT AND WHAT TYPE OF BENCHES, HOW BIG THE TREES? OK MR. ANTUNES. THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR TURNER, THE MR. HALLOCH WAS VERY HELPFUL IN THIS AND I APPRECIATE HIS SUPPORT IN GETTING THIS REPORT TOGETHER. THE TREE, WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT MARKING UP. THIS IS NOT A BIG REVENUE GENERATOR FOR THE CITY, BUT BETWEEN THE COST OF THE TREE, THE LABOR TO INSTALL FROM CITY STAFF, THE INSTALLATION OF THE CONCRETE PAD, THE COST OF THE METALLIC SLASH BRONZE PLAQUE WITH THE ENGRAVING THAT GOES ON TO IT, THAT'S WHERE THE COST THE TREE DOES GET UP THERE IN COST. THE BENCH. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT AGAIN, NOT ANY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MARKUP ON THAT. I, TOO, WAS SHOCKED AT THE COST OF THE BENCH AT FIRST. BUT UNDERSTANDING VERSUS A BENCH THAT WE WOULD PURCHASE FOR RESIDENTIAL PERSONAL USE, MR. HALLOCH DID SOURCE OUT A PARK BENCH. AND OF COURSE, THESE ARE DESIGNED TO TAKE A LOT OF SEATS AND A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND A LOT OF WEATHER THAT A RESIDENTIAL UNIT FROM A REGULAR RETAILER WOULDN'T HANDLE. [01:10:02] THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION? JUST FOR CLARITY. THAT'S OUR NEW PURCHASES, NOT EXISTING CORRECT MR. ANDTUNES? THROUGH YOUR WORSHIP. YES, SIR. THE IT IS THE PURCHASE OF A NEW BENCH. AND THE COST OF THE TREE IS FOR THE PURCHASE OF A NEW TREE THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED AND TYPICALLY TREES THAT ARE INSTALLED. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, JUST SO YOU'RE NOT REPLACING THEM AND WAITING FOR THEM TO TAKE THE TREES THAT ARE INSTALLED USUALLY ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE SUBSTANTIAL. SO THEY DO TAKE AND THEY GO ON [INAUDIBLE] SAPLING THAT YOU WOULD INSTALL AND THEN THE COST OF LABOR TO HAVE TO KEEP SWAPPING IT OUT IF IT IF IT DOESN'T SURVIVE. OK, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTION, COUNCILLOR TURNER A FOLLOW UP. YES, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE SECTION THAT SAYS THE CITY'S NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR VANDALISM OF DAMAGE TO BENCHES. SO HOW DO WE GO ABOUT GETTING THIS BENCH REPAIRED? IT'S IN OUR PARKS, ON OUR PROPERTY. WE'RE JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT. THROUGH YOUR WORSHIP THERE, THERE IS A NOTE IN THE IN THE POLICY THAT DOES ADDRESS IT, IF A IF A BENCH IS DAMAGED OR DESTROYED THROUGH VANDALISM IN TAKING THE LEAD FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, WE WOULD EITHER ACCEPT THE COST AS A CITY TO REPLACE IT OR TO REPAIR IT THROUGH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. IN THE CASE OF AN EXISTING BENCH, IF YOU DID MEMORIALIZE A BENCH DOWN BY HORN LAKE WITH A PLAQUE ON IT AND IT DOES GET DAMAGED BEYOND REPAIR THE BETWEEN STAFF AND PUBLIC WORKS, WE WOULD FIND A SUITABLE OTHER BENCH TO PUT THE PLAQUE ON OR REPAIR OR REPLACE THE EXISTING ADOPTED BENCH AS IT STANDS. OK, THANK YOU. MY ONLY COMMENT IS I DON'T THINK WE NEED EIGHT BY FIVE BRONZE PLAQUES, SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE SUBTLE MIGHT DO IT. THANK YOU. OK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. GO FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE ONCE AGAIN, STARTING WITH COUNCILOR MANN. THAT'S CARRIED. SEVEN POINT FIVE REFERRAL FROM FINANCE AND ADMIN COMMITTEE SPONSORSHIP POLICY. COUNCILOR MANN, ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. AGAIN, AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE HELD ON MONDAY, APRIL 19TH, 2021, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED REGARDING THE SPONSORSHIP POLICY, THAT THE REPORT OF THE SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER DATED APRIL 13TH, 2021 BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO IMPLEMENT AND ADOPT THE NEW CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE SPONSORSHIP POLICY. AND I SO MOVE. OKAY, SECONDER, PLEASE. COUNCILOR FINAMORE. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, COUNCILOR MANN? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. STAFF WERE DIRECTED TO PREPARE AN ASSET NAMING POLICY AGAIN IN FEBRUARY OF 2021. THE POLICY CENTERED ON NAMING OR RENAMING CITY ASSETS, THE NAMING OF RENAMING OF STREETS FOCUSED ON THE USE OF NAMES OF PAST AND CURRENT RESIDENTS. IN PREPARATION OF THAT POLICY, STAFF EXPANDED THE SCOPE OF CITY ASSETS TO INCLUDE PARKS, TRAILS, MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS AND ROOMS THEREIN THE CREATION OF THIS POLICY HIGHLIGHTED THE NEED TO CREATE A SEPARATE POLICY TO OFFER DIRECTION TO STAFF AND POTENTIAL SPONSORS ON HOW TO DEAL WITH CORPORATE NAMING AND SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES. AGAIN, MR. ANTUNES HAS GONE OUT AND PROVIDED A VERY GOOD STARTING POINT, WHICH THE CITY HAS NOT HAD TO DATE, AND TALKS ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE. AND I THINK ONE OF THE KEY POINTS IS 100 PERCENT OF THE SPONSORSHIP REVENUE WILL BE ALLOCATED TO THE OPERATING BUDGET OF THE APPROPRIATE FACILITY PROGRAM OR SPECIAL EVENT IN CONNECTION WITH THE SPONSORSHIP RECEIVED. AND ANOTHER IMPORTANT POINT, AS OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT SPONSORSHIPS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED FROM CORPORATIONS THAT PRODUCE BEER, WINE, ALCOHOL PRODUCTS IN THE ONTARIO MARKETPLACE, EXCEPT FOR SPECIAL EVENTS WHERE NO CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 19 WERE ADMITTED AND WHERE SPONSORS HAVE DEMONSTRATED ALL REQUIREMENTS OF THE MUNICIPAL ALCOHOL POLICY AND WILL MEET DURING THAT EVENT. SO AGAIN, TRYING TO BE RESPECTFUL FOR CERTAIN EVENTS AND SPONSORSHIPS, AS IS NORMAL PRACTICE IN THE COUNTRY AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU. [01:15:02] WAS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM FROM COUNCILOR? OK, SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS ONE . THAT'S CARRIED. AND THANK YOU COUNCILOR MANN YOU BROUGHT US TO PAGE 170. ALL RIGHT. SEVEN POINT SIX REFERRAL FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDING COMMITTEE READ BILLBOARD ADVERTISING 2021. COUNCILOR PEARCE, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. NO, I BELIEVE THAT'S COUNCILOR TURNER. OH, SORRY, COUNCILOR TURNER. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SPENDING COMMITTEE IS THAT THE REPORT OF THE SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER DATED MARCH 25TH, 2021 BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO PROCEED WITH BILLBOARD UPDATING AND RENEWALS. AND THAT THE NEGOTIATION METHOD IN THE MUNICIPAL PROCUREMENT POLICY WILL BE USED TO CONTRACT BILLBOARD SIGN DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND INSTALLATION TO LAIRD SIGNS TO A THREE YEAR TERM WITH AN UPSET COST OF FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS IN 2021. AND I SO MOVE. SECONDER, PLEASE? SECOND BY COUNCILOR MANN. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, COUNCILOR TURNER, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. YES, YOUR WORSHIP. COMPLIMENTS OF OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER--BEEN RATHER BUSY THESE DAYS--HE'S TAKING A LOOK AT THE BILLBOARD SIGNAGE THAT WE USE ON HIGHWAYS IN THE AREA AND FOUND THAT THERE'S SOME INCONGRUITY IN THAT WE HAVE SIGNS, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR I BELIEVE IT'S MANHUNTER THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GONE A WHILE AGO. WE HAVE A CONSISTENCY IN THE MESSAGE AND AS A RESULT, THE SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER, MR. ANTUNES PUT TOGETHER THIS REPORT AND I CAN HAND IT OVER TO HIM IF HE HAS ANYTHING TO ELABORATE FURTHER ON IT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR TURNER. MR. ANTUNES. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU AND THANK YOU, COUNCILOR TURNER. THIS IS ONE OF MY FIRST PROJECTS PUT THROUGH UNDER THE GREAT GUIDANCE OF MR. GAGNON AND WANTING TO UPDATE THE MESSAGE THAT WE HAD AND HAD SOME COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT WERE VERY HELPFUL WITH SOME INPUT AS WELL AS MISS VLAHOVICH. THE IDEA WAS TO ADVERTISE WHAT WE HAVE AS A MUNICIPALITY AND AS A CITY AND PUT THROUGH A CONGRUENT MARKETING MESSAGE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, AGAIN, IN CONJUNCTION WITH MS. VLAHOVICH AND MR. GAGNON THAT WE CAME UP WITH, THE IDEA OF PROMOTING THE CITY'S ASSETS WITH A YOUR SUMMER PLAYGROUND AND YOUR WINTER PLAYGROUND KIND OF IDEAS, SO ROTATING BILLBOARDS AS WENT THROUGH. COUNCILOR TURNER DID MENTION A LOT OF OUR SIGNAGE IS VERY DATED AND DOES NOT OFFER, IF YOU DRIVE FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] EAST OR SUDBURY WEST, IT'S KIND OF A MISHMASH OF DIFFERENT SIGNS AND DIFFERENT MESSAGES. SO WE PUT TOGETHER A THREE YEAR PLAN HEADING ALL THE WAY, BEGINNING IN 2021, ENDING IN 2020 THREE. TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE MINISTRY OF TRANSPORTATION'S NEW POLICY IN PREBILLING FOR MTO EASEMENT RIGHTS. SO WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WAS EVEN OUT THE COSTS AS BEST WE COULD OVER A THREE YEAR TERM. SO CHANGING THE MESSAGE THROUGHOUT THE NEXT THREE YEARS TO HELP PROMOTE OUR BEAUTIFUL, WONDERFUL CITY AND ALL THE GREAT THINGS YOU CAN DO IN IT. THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES. JUST TO START UP THE QUESTIONS, WE HAVE A FEW. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY AS YOU'RE COMING FROM THE WEST, THERE'S QUITE A FEW SIGNS THAT THERE'S BRUSH AND TREES OVERGROWING IN FRONT OF THE SIGNS, SO THIS WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAR THAT OUT. SO, YOU ACTUALLY SEE NEW SIGNAGE AND ADVERTISING FOR THE COMMUNITY, CORRECT? THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP--I GUESS, THROUGH YOU, TO YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. [CHUCKLING] YES, THE PARCEL OF THE CONTRACT AND GOING IN AND CHANGING IS BRUSHING [01:20:02] AROUND THE BILLBOARD BASES AND CLEANING THEM UP. AND THEN ALSO IN THE ONES THAT WE'RE CHANGING THEY GET A FULL CLEAN UP AND NOTHING CATCHES YOUR EYE AS YOU'RE DRIVING FROM A MARKETING STANDPOINT IS A CHANGE A DIFFERENT BILLBOARD. IF YOU DO THAT TRIP, YOU KNOW, A MILLION TIMES, WHICH I'M SURE WE'VE ALL DONE OVER THE YEARS, AND YOU JUST SEE THE SAME BILLBOARD, IT DOESN'T EVEN CATCH YOUR ATTENTION. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS. AND THROUGH MR. GAGNON'S GUIDANCE OF HAVING THE SEASONAL SWITCH IS THAT, YOU KNOW, TWICE A YEAR YOU'LL SEE A DIFFERENT BILLBOARD IN THE AREA WHICH WILL CATCH YOUR ATTENTION FROM THE MARKETING SIDE. SO THEY WILL BE CLEANED UP. AND BY CHANGING THEM SEASONALLY, IT ALSO GIVES OUR CONTRACTOR A CHANCE TO GO AND CLEAN UP THE AREA AND THEN ANY OVERGROWTH THAT'S HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE SEASON AS WELL. PERFECT, THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES, FOR THIS REPORT. LONG OVERDUE SIGNS ARE SOME OF THEM ARE IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE AND PRETTY DATED. MY QUESTION IS, WHAT ABOUT THE SIGNS ALONG THE HIGHWAY THAT ARE ADVERTISING? DO WE HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER ANYTHING ABOUT THE SIGNS THAT ARE ADVERTISING BUSINESSES THAT DON'T EXIST ANYMORE? I KNOW WE ALL HAVE A BONE OF CONTENTION WITH ONE SIGN IN PARTICULAR, AIR BRAVO. I'M JUST WONDERING, DO WE HAVE ANY SAY OVER ANY OF THESE DILAPIDATED SIGNS, ALONG 108, THAT FOR BUSINESSES THAT DON'T EVEN EXIST ANYMORE, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THOSE? MR. GAGNON? SIMPLY LOBBY THE MINISTRY OF TRANSPORTATION TO DO THEIR JOB AND MAINTAIN THEIR OWN SIGN BILLBOARD. WE'RE JUMPING THROUGH THEIR HOOPS AND THE BUREAUCRAT THAT I WAS USED TO DEALING WITH RETIRED AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHO THAT NEW PERSON IS AND GET THROUGH TO THEM TO TRY TO MANAGE THAT. BUT THEY WERE HELPFUL ON SOME OTHER SIGNS THAT GOT REPLACED. SO I DO THINK THERE'S SOME HOPE THERE TO GET THROUGH TO THE MTO TO GET THEM TO LOOK AT THE OTHER SIGNS. I THINK I MIGHT HAVE THAT CONNECTION FOR YOU, MR. GAGNON, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FRIDAY FROM A NEW MTO REPRESENTATIVE FOR OUR AREA, SO I'LL FORWARD THAT ONTO YOU. COUNCILOR PATRIE. THANK YOU THROUGH YOU, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE WORK OF THE REPORT. I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR FINAMORE. THIS IS LONG OVERDUE AND A LOT OF OUR SIGNS ARE OVERGROWN AND NEED WORK TO BE DONE TO THEM. THE ISSUE I HAVE IS SINGLE SOURCING THIS. NOTHING AGAINST LAIRD SIGNS, THEY'RE A FINE COMPANY, THEY DO GOOD WORK, WE HAVE DEALT WITH THEM VERY LONG. THE PREDICAMENT I HAVE IS WE HAVE TWO LOCAL IN-TOWN TAXPAYING BUSINESSES THAT CAN ALSO TENDER THIS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, THE FINANCIAL IMPACT SAYS THAT IT'S FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS, WHICH IS INCORRECT. THE TOTAL IS ACTUALLY THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND TWELVE DOLLARS AND NINETY CENTS OF WHICH THIRTY THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY TWO WOULD BE GOING TO LAIRD SIGNS. I HAVE AN ISSUE. SO ONLY FOUR OF THOSE SIGNS ARE RENTED FROM LAIRD SIGNS. THE OTHER 10 ARE CITY OWNED AND THEY COST US ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS A YEAR TO RENT, WHICH IS THE SMART WAY TO DO IT. IF WE CAN GET SINGS FROM MTO AS OPPOSED TO RENTING THEM FROM A SIGN COMPANY, IT IS SUBSTANTIALLY LESS. YOU'RE GOING TO BE SAVING OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR TO DO THAT. BUT I UNDERSTAND TO CHANGE THE FACES AND SO FORTH ON A SIGN IS A ROUGH COST OF JUST OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND IF WE'RE DOING WRAPS, THEN IT'S VERY SIMPLE AND IT'S NOT EVEN THAT EXPENSIVE. THE COST OF OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS INCLUDES NEW METAL OR WOOD BACKING. SO I WOULD PREFER THAT WE REFER THIS BACK TO STAFF AND COME BACK WITH QUOTES FROM OUR TWO LOCAL BUSINESSES AS WELL. AND NOT JUST SINGLE SOURCE ALMOST THIRTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS TO BE SINGLE SOURCED OUT AND NOT PRICED. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REFER THIS BACK TO STAFF. IS THERE A SECONDER FOR THIS REFERRAL? NO. COUNCILOR MANN? SECOND FOR DISCUSSION YOUR WORSHIP. JUST FOR CLARITY, I'M NOT SEEING THE THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND FINANCIAL IMPACT. WE HAVE A TOTAL COST, SIXTEEN THOUSAND EIGHT FIFTY NINETY TWO AND THEN ADVERTISING SALES COMING BACK TO THE CITY WOULD BE MINUS TWENTY TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY DOLLARS FOR A NET TOTAL OF FOURTEEN THOUSAND SIX THIRTY NINETY TWO. THAT'S THE MATH THERE. MR. ANTUNES, IF YOU-- IF I MAY RESPOND TO THAT YOUR WORSHIP TO GIVE YOU THOSE NUMBERS. COUNCILOR PATRIE. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THREE YEAR OVERALL COST, IT'S THIRTY FIVE [01:25:02] THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND TWELVE AFTER YOU TAKE THE TWENTY TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY DOLLARS OFF PER YEAR. I LEFT THAT SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS OF REVENUE IN THERE. BUT WHEN YOU FLIP THE PAGE OVER AND GO TO PAGE ONE SEVENTY FOUR, YEAR TWO IS A NET COST OF 8709.54, YEAR THREE IS A NET COST OF 12,572.44. SO IT'S NOT JUST THE 14,630. ONCE YOU COMMIT TO THE THREE YEARS YOU'RE COMMITTING TO THE ENTIRE THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND TWELVE DOLLARS AFTER THE ALMOST SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS IN REVENUE. SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY WELL OVER FORTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS. ESSENTIALLY FOURTEEN THOUSAND A YEAR, CORRECT, WHEN YOU ADD THE THREE YEARS. MR. ANTUNES? THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PATRIE. ACTUALLY, THE NUMBERS WORK OUT CLOSER TO THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS OVER THE THREE YEARS. SIGN RENTAL AND SIGN WORK IN YEAR ONE OF THIRTEEN THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY. SECOND YEAR, IT'S TEN THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE. SO WE'RE ROUGHLY AT TWENTY THREE THOUSAND, AND YEAR THREE AT SEVENTY ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY TWO DOLLARS. WHICH BRINGS US TO ROUGHLY A THREE YEAR TERM OF THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS WHEN YOU ADD THE THREE. THE PRIVATE LAND LEASES, THE MTO PERMITS, THOSE ARE ALL SEPARATE FROM THE COSTS PAID TO THE CONTRACTOR. THOSE SIGN COSTS IS THE COST OF THE RENTAL, THE SIGN WHERE WE DON'T PAY THE ANNUAL LEASE ON THEM OR MAINTAIN THEM. AND ALSO ASIDE FOR COUNCILOR PATRIE, ONE OF THE THINGS IN SPEAKING TO THE MTO OFFICER OUT OF SAULT ST. MARIE AND I APOLOGIZE, I KNOW HIS FIRST NAME IS CHRISTOPHER. I CAN'T RECALL THE LAST NAME OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. BUT THERE IS THE QUESTION OF AVAILABILITY OF SPOTS. THERE'S RULES FOR THE MTO OF BEING ABLE TO JUST POPPING UP SIGNS. SO THERE IS I BELIEVE IT'S THREE HUNDRED YARDS OR SO IN EITHER DIRECTION. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE DIRECTIONS THAT HE HAD GIVEN ME WHEN WE SPOKE. AND I WAS FAMILIARIZING MYSELF WITH THE IDEA OF BILLBOARDS AND HOW THEY WORK, THAT IT'S A MATTER OF GETTING A SPOT TO PUT THEM UP AND THE COST TO PUT THEM UP. AND WITH LAIRD, I HAVE SEVERAL SIGNS WITH US CURRENTLY. THEY HAVE DONE THE WORK AND IT WAS A MATTER OF CONTINUING ON AND A CHUNK OF THE WORK IS ACTUALLY BEING DONE ON OUR EXISTING ONES. BUT THE FOUR KEY SIGNS THAT ACTUALLY HOLD THE LARGEST IMPACT FOR THE CITY ARE THE TWO AT THE BOTTOM OF 108 AND ALGOMA, CHRYSLER AND A SERPENT RIVER, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE USING TO CHANGE OVER. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY SWAPPING THEM. RIGHT NOW, ANYONE THAT DRIVES CAN SEE THAT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE 108, WE'VE GOT THE BLUE SIGNS THAT MIMIC THE ONTARIO SIGNS WITH ADVERTISERS. BY THE TIME SOMEONE'S PASSING THAT AT NINETY FIVE KILOMETERS AN HOUR, YOU'RE TOO FAR GONE TO MAKE THE OFF THE 108 IN EITHER DIRECTION. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY SWAPPING THOSE OUT. AND ALL FOUR OF THOSE SIGNS ARE A PROPERTY OF LAIRD SIGNS AS WELL. MR. GAGNON, CAN YOU ASSIST ON THIS ONE ALSO? WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO CLARIFY THAT WERE ONLY SEEKING THE SOLE SOURCE FOR YEAR ONE. SO IF IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO COUNCILOR, I WOULD STILL RECOMMEND SOLE SOURCE YEAR ONE TO LAIRD SIGNS. LET'S GET GOING. THEY HAVE THEIR FOOT IN THE DOOR AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM FOR YEARS. GIVE US THE TIME TO REVISIT YEARS TWO AND THREE AND WHAT CAN BE SOURCED TO MORE LOCAL COMPANIES. AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL OR WE'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM FOR '22-23 AS TO WHAT HOW WE COULD SPREAD THAT WORK AROUND. BUT AT LEAST LET US GET OUT THE DOOR RIGHT NOW IN THE SPRING OF THIS YEAR TO RECYCLE SOME OF THOSE SIGNS THAT LAIRD SIGNS HAS ALREADY [INAUDIBLE] WELL POSITIONED TO BE ABLE TO RECYCLE THOSE. AND THEN THAT'LL GIVE US SOME TIME TO SORT OUT WHAT YEARS TWO AND THREE LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT LOCAL COMPANIES MAY BE ABLE TO DO, PARTS OF IT. THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD COMPROMISE. COUNCILOR MANN, AND THEN BACK TO COUNCILOR PATRIE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I THINK BASED ON MR. GAGNON COMMENTS, THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO ME REGARDING MOVING FORWARD FOR THIS YEAR AND THEN TENDERING IN YEARS TWO AND THREE. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO LOSE SOME OPPORTUNITY IF WE WAIT TOO LONG. AND I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE HOW MUCH WORK AND COMMITMENT HAS BEEN MADE ALREADY REGARDING THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD? JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE OUT ANYTHING, SO REALLY I THINK I WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT. I'LL LET EVERYONE ELSE SPEAK. BUT I THINK AT THE END, I'M PROBABLY GOING TO--IF THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT STANDS WITH THE CLERK. IF THIS IS JUST IF WE HAVE TO DO ANOTHER AMENDMENT FOR JUST A ONE YEAR TERM FOR THIS AGREEMENT, OR IS IT SUITABLE WITH THE CURRENT WORDING? [01:30:02] MISS BRAY. I THINK I'LL REFER TO MR. ANTUNES, HE HAS IT IN HIS RECOMMENDATION FOR A THREE YEAR TERM WITH LAIRD SIGNS. I CAN AMEND THAT TO SAY A ONE YEAR TERM. THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I WOULD HAVE TO CONFIRM WITH THE FOLKS AT LAIRD SIGNS. PART OF IT DID HAVE A THREE YEAR RENTAL FOR SOME OF THEIR SIGNS. SO I WILL HAVE TO GO AND CONFIRM WITH THEM IF WE'RE ABLE TO GO ON A YEAR BY YEAR BASIS FOR THAT. COUNCILOR PATRIE. THANK YOU, THROUGH YOU. I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT, YES, THE RESOLUTION STATES THAT IT IS THE THREE YEAR TERM, SO THE ENTIRE AMOUNT IS INCLUDED IN THAT. AND IF STAFF DOES HAVE TO GO BACK, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS ALREADY BUDGETED FOR 2021. STAFF HAS FULL DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL IN BUDGET TO DO THE 2021 WORK THAT THEY HAVE TO DO, SO IF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE COMMITTED FOR 2021, WE DON'T NEED TO REALLY COMMIT ANYTHING FURTHER, STAFF HAS THAT AUTHORIZATION TO DO THAT WITHOUT US CHANGING ANYTHING. AND THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE THIS TO GO BACK AND JUST REFER TO, ESPECIALLY IF STAFF HAS TO GO BACK, AT LEAST GO OUT AND PRICE IT AND SEE WHAT IT WOULD COST. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, ONLY FOUR OF THOSE SIGNS ARE RENTED FROM A SIGN COMPANY. THE OTHER 10 ARE MUNICIPALLY OWNED. AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH SIGNS FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES, AND THAT'S HOW COME I UNDERSTAND THAT. I GET IT, AT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS A YEAR, IT IS WAY CHEAPER THAN FIFTEEN HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR TO RENT THAT SAME LOCATION, AND ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING MONEY TO BE CHANGING, FACE COVERING AND SO FORTH. I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND NOT BE TIED TO A LONG TERM CONTRACT IF THERE ARE SIGNS. AND SO IF WE WANT MORE FROM MTO, THEN YES, THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS TO DO THAT. BUT THE 10 THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, WE ALREADY HAVE. AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE JUST HAVE TO RENEW. AND AS THE REPORT SAYS, YES, THE MTO HAS CHANGED IT, BUT YOU CAN NO LONGER GO YEAR TO YEAR KUDOS TO STAFF TO BE ABLE TO GET A TWO YEAR DEAL OUT OF THEM, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DID IT. BUT THEY ARE MANDATING A FIVE YEAR TERM AT SEVEN HUNDRED AND SOME DOLLARS PER TERM. SO YOU'VE GOT TO LOCK IN FOR THE FIVE YEARS, WHICH I GUARANTEE MUNICIPALITY'S GOING TO BE HERE IN ANOTHER FIVE YEARS. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER. BUT THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT, ESPECIALLY IF STAFF HAS TO GO BACK. I JUST I'D LIKE TO REFER TO STAFF AND COME BACK WITH OPTIONS FOR LOCAL COMPANIES TO AT LEAST BID ON IT AS WELL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE REFERRAL? OK, SO I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE TO REFER THIS BACK TO STAFF, STARTING WITH COUNCILOR PEARCE. WE'RE BACK TO THE MOTION AS IT STANDS, POSSIBLY PUT FORWARD AN AMENDMENT AT THIS POINT. COUNCILOR FINAMORE. AMENDMENT TO BE A ONE YEAR TERM. SECONDER FOR THAT AMENDMENT? SECONDED BY COUNCILOR MANN. DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT. SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL, STARTING WITH COUNCILOR MANN. THE AMENDMENTS CARRIED. BACK TO THE RECOMMENDATION AS AMENDED, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR PATRIE. I'D JUST LIKE TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT WE'RE VOTING ON SOMETHING THAT STUFF HAS TO GO BACK AND HAVE A DISCUSSION TO GET CLARIFICATION WHETHER THE REPORT IS NOW VALID NOW THAT WE'VE CHANGED THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT. SO I CAN'T VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS IS GOING TO BE. NOW, THE TERMS ARE ALL GOING TO CHANGE. MR. GAGNON. SORRY, I THINK THE ONE YEAR TERM, FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS ALLOWS US TO SOLE SOURCE TO LARID TO GET GOING FOR 2021. WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT AND WE WILL REFINE IT FOR YEARS TWO AND THREE. [01:35:02] AND IF WE NEED TO COME BACK, WE WILL. AND IF WE DON'T, WE GET THE GIST, WE UNDERSTAND AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT GETS CARRIED INTO THE NEXT TWO YEARS. THANK YOU, MR. GAGNON. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? AS AMENDED, ROLL CALL. THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU. SEVEN POINT SEVEN, VERY EXCITING, REFERRAL FROM THE ARTS HUB STEERING COMMITTEE. COUNCILOR FINAMORE, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ELLIOT LAKE ARTS CENTER STEERING COMMITTEE HELD FRIDAY, APRIL 23RD, 2021. THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED, MOVED BY COUNCILOR TURNER, SECONDED BY MR. MURRAY FINN. THE COUNCIL APPROVED DESIGN OPTION 2A TO PROCEED WITH FURTHER DESIGN AND FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THAT COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF AND CONSULTANTS TO PURSUE NET ZERO BUILDING OPTIONS FOR THE NEW FACILITY. AND I SO MOVE. SECONDER PLEASE. SECOND BY COUNCILOR TURNER. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, COUNCILOR FINAMORE. I'LL GIVE A LITTLE BIT, THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. ANTUNES AND MR. GAGNON IF THEY HAVE ANY MORE DETAILS. WE DID HAVE A QUITE LENGTHY DISCUSSION WITH EVERYONE AT THE COMMITTEE AND WERE PRESENTED WITH FOUR OPTIONS. OPTION ONE OPTION TWO OPTION 2A, AND OPTION THREE, IT ONLY LISTS THE CLASS COST ESTIMATES FOR THREE OF THOSE, BUT OPTION TWO, AND 2A ARE THE SAME PRICE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, AND OPTION 2A WAS A THEATER WITHOUT MEZZANINE SEATING AND STUDIOS AT GRADE TOTAL CONSTRUCTION COST OF TWELVE MILLION, THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND BUILDING CONSTRUCTION COST OF TEN THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND SEVENTY EIGHT, SITE WORK CONSTRUCTION OF ONE MILLION SIX HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TWO THOUSAND EXCLUDED FROM COSTING IS THE SOFT COST PERMITS PROPOSED GATHERING SPACE, SITE FURNITURE, SIGNAGE, IRRIGATION EXHIBIT DESIGN AND INSTALL AND ESCALATION CONTINGENCY, ADDITIONAL OPTIONAL THAT WASN'T THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A SECOND PART. OH, YEAH. OK, SORRY, ADDITIONAL OPTION, BUILDING COSTS, WE ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT THE NET ZERO ENERGY, WHICH COULD ADD A FIFTEEN TO TWENTY FIVE PERCENT COST INCREASE TO THE ACTUAL PROJECT. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL TO LOOK AT OPTION TWO AS BEING THE BASIS FOR THE START OF THE DESIGN, MEANING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. WE DO HAVE DESIGNS HERE THAT HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT, BUT CERTAINLY THIS IS JUST THE BASIC FOOTPRINT FOR NOW AS WE GO IN AND REDEFINE AND TAKE A REALLY GOOD LOOK AT THE DESIGN FOR THE NEW ARTS AND CULTURE HUB. BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO BE ABLE TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION ON LOOKING FOR THE NET ZERO ENERGY THROUGH LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT SOURCES OF FUNDING AND TO TRY TO MAKE THIS KNOWING THAT THIS COULD BE AN EXTRA COST ON TOP OF WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN STATED BY OUR CONSULTANTS. AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I MISSED, I'M SURE MR. GAGNON AND MR. ANTUNES WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. NOT SURE, SHOULD I HAND IT OVER TO MR. ANTUNES, ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION MR. ANTUNES OR COUNCILOR FINAMORE PRETTY MUCH COVERED THEM ALL? THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. COUNCILOR FINAMORE DID A FANTASTIC JOB. THE ONLY REAL NOTE, IT'S VERY MINUIT IN LOOKING BETWEEN TWO AND 2A, ESSENTIALLY THEY ARE VERY, VERY SIMILAR IN DESIGN. THE BIGGEST CHANGE WAS PLACEMENT OF THE CHECK-IN DESK BY THE GIFT SHOP PORTION OF THAT AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE FACILITY. SO IF ANYONE'S LOOKING FOR THE WHERE'S WALDO DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO, THAT'S THE BIGGEST CHANGE WAS THE POSITIONING OF THE ENTRANCE AND THE RECEPTION AREA IN THE TWO DESIGNS BY GETTING RID OF THE MEZZANINE FROM OPTION ONE AND OPTION THREE, THERE WAS A DEFINITE COST SAVINGS AND OF COURSE, THE ELIMINATION OF HAVING TO HAVE STAIRS OR AN ELEVATOR FOR ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES TO THE SECOND FLOOR. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR TURNER, QUESTION. IT'S JUST A COMMENT YOUR WORSHIP. THE NET ZERO CONCEPT THAT COUNCILOR FINAMORE SPOKE TO, THE COMMITTEE WANTED TO [01:40:02] INCLUDE THAT IN THE REPORT TO COUNCIL BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE ALSO BECAME AWARE THAT THERE WAS A NEW FEDERAL GRANT TITLED GREEN AND INCLUSIVE. AND THAT SPECIFICALLY APPLIES TO NET ZERO BUILDINGS, SO WE CAN'T JUST GO FOR GOLD LEAD OR SILVER LEAD, IT HAD TO BE NET ZERO. SO INFORMATION ABOUT THE GREEN AND INCLUSIVE GRANTS WASN'T AVAILABLE AT THE TIME OF THE MEETING. AND STAFF INDICATED THAT THEY'LL RESEARCH AND SEE WHAT IT'S WORTH. THE CONSULTANTS DID COMMENT THAT WE WOULD DEFINITELY GET OUR MONEY BACK IN OPERATING COSTS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, AND THEY'LL REFINE THAT LATER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR PATRIE. I HAVE SOME COMMENTS AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION AT THE END, BUT I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH THE NET ZERO, THE LEADS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND YOU HAVE TO REALIZE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NEXT 20 TO 30 YEARS FOR THIS FACILITY. SO WE MIGHT AS WELL BUILD IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AND GO WITH THE NET ZERO BUILDING, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PRESENTERS ARE SAYING THAT THE GRANT MONEY FOR NET ZERO IS USUALLY MORE THAN THE COST TO GET TO NET ZERO. SO I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE DO THAT. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF ANY OF THE LAYOUTS. THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE IS OUR MUSEUM ON ALL OF THESE DRAFTS IS TWENTY THREE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, OUR MUSEUM USED TO BE FIVE THOUSAND FEET OR MORE, AND SO NOW WE'RE CUTTING OUR MUSEUM IN HALF AND WE'RE PUTTING OVER SIX THOUSAND FEET INTO USER GROUP SPACE. AND I DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO BENEFIT THE USERS. AND MR. GAGNON HAS SENT US AN EMAIL A WEEK OR SO AGO ABOUT POTENTIAL OTHER LOCATIONS FOR THOSE USER GROUPS AT A MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE COST. YOU'RE TALKING ALMOST THREE MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF COSTING FOR THE USER GROUPS TO BE ABLE TO USE THE BUILDING. JUST FOR ME, FINANCIALLY, IT DOESN'T WORK. I DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THESE USER GROUPS. WE HAVE THE LUXURY OF HAVING THEM IN THE FACILITY BEFORE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE ACCESS SPACE AND SO WE COULD GIVE THEM VIRTUALLY FREE RENT. THE PREDICAMENT IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND THREE MILLION DOLLARS TO GIVE THEM THAT SPACE, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO CHARGE THEM MARKET VALUE RENT WHICH THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY? SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TAX MONEY, ESPECIALLY FOLLOWING THE FUNDING PRESENTATION THAT WAS PRODUCED AT THE MEETING, AND I'M TERRIFIED TO ASK THIS QUESTION BECAUSE BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO US AT THAT MEETING. HAVE WE NOW LOST ELIGIBILITY FOR THE LARGE GRANTS THAT WERE GOING TO HAVE, WERE GOING TO USE OUR THREE MILLION DOLLARS OR ALMOST FOUR MILLION DOLLARS AND CREATE THAT 12 MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET THROUGH GRANTS AND FUNDING THROUGH THE PROVINCE AND THE FEDS. BASED ON THE PRESENTATION AT THAT MEETING, THERE'S ONLY A POTENTIAL OF TWO AND A HALF TO THREE MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF FUNDING, AND NONE OF THAT IS ACTUALLY SEVENTY FIVE CENT DOLLARS. IT'S ALL 50 CENT DOLLARS IF ELIGIBLE. SO MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE STILL ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING OR HAVE WE LOST THE ABILITY TO GET THOSE BIG GRANT MONEYS THAT CAN GIVE US THAT AFFORDABILITY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A 12 MILLION DOLLAR FACILITY? SO THOUGH YOU, MR. MAYOR, PROBABLY TO BE MR. GAGNON OR MR. ANTUNES. I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE WOULD WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT. MR. GAGNON. OK, SO BEFORE WE HEARD ABOUT THE GREEN AND INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY BUILDING FUND, WE'RE STILL ELIGIBLE FOR THE CULTURAL SPACES CANADA FUND, WHICH COULD FUND 50 TO 75 PERCENT OF A 12 TO 15 MILLION DOLLAR FACILITY. SO WE'RE STILL IN THE GAME FOR THE CULTURAL SPACES CANADA FUND. IT STILL EXISTS AND IS STILL POTENTIAL. AND WE STILL HAVE THE NOHFC POTENTIALLY FUNDING COMPONENT OF THAT. SO WE'RE STILL, REGARDLESS OF THIS NEW FEDERAL MONEY THAT IS TIED TO NET ZERO, WE STILL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR 50 TO 75 PERCENT FUNDING OF A 12 TO 15 MILLION DOLLAR FACILITY. SO, THAT'S STILL COMPLETELY POSSIBLE. THIS GREEN AND INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY BUILDING FUND PROVIDES US ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY THAT COULD FUND US TO THE TUNE OF 40 PERCENT FOR FEDERAL AND THIRTY THREE FOR [01:45:06] PROVINCIALS, SO 73 PERCENT FUNDING. SO THIS GREEN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY BUILDING FUND IS ICIP, IT'S PART OF THE FEDERAL PROVINCIAL COST-SHARING. IT'S JUST ANOTHER BUCKET OF THE SAME FUND THAT WE APPLIED TO AND WE'RE UNSUCCESSFUL IN TWENTY NINETEEN FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] THIRTY EIGHT MILLION DOLLAR SPORTS HUB, JUST IN A DIFFERENT THEME, SIMILAR BREAKDOWN, SIMILAR RATIO, DIFFERENT FORMAT. THEY'RE LOOKING FOR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND CARBON FOOTPRINT AND GETTING NET ZERO. SO AND WE COULD STILL ALSO STACK AND LEVERAGE ALL OF THOSE FUNDS THAT WE JUST MENTIONED. SO THERE'S THE ICIP FUNDING. COULD ALSO STACKING RULES GET A LITTLE BIT CONVOLUTED, BUT WE COULD ACTUALLY GET MORE FUNDING. WE COULD GET AS HIGH AS 85 TO 90 PERCENT FUNDING TECHNICALLY. SO AND BEING NET ZERO WILL ONLY ADD STRENGTH TO OUR FUNDING APPLICATION. EVEN IF WE DON'T GO THROUGH THE GREEN BUCKET, WE GO TO THE TRADITIONAL FUNDERS, EXCEPT FOR AT SOME POINT WE'LL HAVE TO GRAPPLE WITH THE TWENTY FIVE PERCENT POTENTIAL CAPITAL COSTS. BUT IF THERE'S A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, WE MAY WANT TO DO IT ANYWAY, REGARDLESS, HOWEVER. SO, GOOD NEWS IS WE'VE GOT GRANTS ALL OVER THE PLACE NOW THAT COULD FUND THE ARTS CENTER BUILDING UP TO 12 TO 15 MILLION DOLLARS. THE OTHER THING THAT COUNCILOR PATRIE IS TALKING ABOUT IS THERE SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE ARTS OR SPORTS HUB UPDATE SOON ENOUGH ANYWAY, IS THAT THERE'S A MULTITUDE ALL OF A SUDDEN RETROFIT AND RENOVATION GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US. SO THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AND A CONSTRAINT WE HAVE TO GRAPPLE WITH. WHICH COMPONENTS DO WE WANT TO REPAIR AND WHICH COMPONENTS DO WE WANT TO REPLACE? NOW, I'M DRIFTING INTO THE SPORTS HUB, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE A MULTITUDE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. WE JUST NEED TO TRY TO BE AS STRATEGIC AND FLEXIBLE TO BE ABLE TO FIT INTO ALL OF THESE BUCKETS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WE'RE CONTINUALLY TALKING TO THE FUNDERS AND TRYING TO POSITION THE PROJECT AS BEST WE CAN. WHAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TONIGHT IS TO GET BACK TO OUR CONSULTANTS RIGHT NOW ON ONE OF THOSE THREE OPTIONS, 2A BEING THE RECOMMENDED SO THAT THEY CAN KEEP REFINING THE PLANS BASED ON THE THREE OPTIONS THEY PRESENTED, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO A RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN COME TOMORROW MORNING, THE CONSULTANT CAN KEEP WORKING ON THAT NEW ART CENTER BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'LL GET FROM COUNCIL TONIGHT. OKAY, I BELIEVE COUNCILOR PATRIE HAD A FOLLOW UP. I DON'T THINK THE MUSEUM WAS ANSWERED. CORRECT, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BECAUSE THE PRESENTATION DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY OF THAT FUNDING AVAILABILITY. I WAS TERRIFIED BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE KILLED US. WE WOULD NOW LOSE OUR THEATER AND MUSEUM BECAUSE WE CAN'T BUILD IT FOR THE MONEY THAT THE INSURANCE COMPANY HAS GIVEN US. SO FROM THERE, I WANT TO GO BACK AND I THINK OUR MUSEUM HAS TO BE AT LEAST THE SIZE THAT IT WAS, IF NOT LARGER. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE'RE BUILDING THIS FOR THE NEXT 20 TO 30 YEARS AND WE ONLY GET ONE SHOT AT IT. WE'RE NOT DOING THIS TWICE, SO WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST ROUND. COUNCILOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I AGREE. WHAT I'M HOPING COUNCIL WILL DO TONIGHT IS MOVE FORWARD WITH WITH 2A KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE MUSEUM BOARD. I BELIEVE OUR MEETING IS THE FIRST THE FIRST WEEK OF MAY. AND WE'VE GOT TO GET PENCIL TO PAPER AND WE HAVE TO DECIDE HOW BIG WE ACTUALLY NEED THIS MUSEUM TO BE. DO SOME RESEARCH AND FIND OUT WHAT SIZE OF MUSEUMS THERE ARE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. I'M NOT SO MUCH CONCERNED WITH THE SIZE OF THE MUSEUM, BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED WITH THE SIZE OF STORAGE. IF WE'RE GOING TO BE A MUSEUM THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF EXTERNAL DISPLAYS. IF YOU SEE SOME OF THE PICTURES IN THIS PRESENTATION OF DISPLAY CASES OUT IN HALLWAYS AND IN PLACES LIKE THAT AND EVEN WITHIN THEATER, PERHAPS, WHO KNOWS, WE STILL NEED PLACES TO PUT THE DISPLAYS WHEN WE'RE SWAPPING THEM OUT. I KNOW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE COMMITTEE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING SOME INSIDE THEATER. WELL, WHEN WE GET DISPLAYS FROM THE ROYAL ONTARIO MUSEUM AS AN EXAMPLE, WE USUALLY GET IT FOR A MONTH. WE DON'T USUALLY GET IT FOR THREE OR FOUR DAYS UNLESS IT'S A TRAVELING ONE WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT IT COMES FOR THREE OR FOUR DAYS. BUT WHEN THE ARTISANS ARE SHOWING OFF THEIR WORK, IT'S OFTEN THERE IN LOBBIES OR SOMEWHERE FOR WEEKS AT A TIME. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO THIS RIGHT. COUNCILOR PATRIE'S RIGHT. WE HAVE ONE CHANCE TO DO THIS. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WE WANT IT DOUBLED IN SIZE. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO, WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED. [01:50:01] BUT THERE IS ROOM WITHIN THIS MAP, WITHIN THIS DRAWING TO MOVE SOME THINGS AROUND AND TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO GET SOME MORE FOOTAGE FOR THE MUSEUM. SO I'M HAPPY TO GO AHEAD, TAKE THIS BACK TO THE MUSEUM BOARD AND TO SIT DOWN. AND WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY IT IS THAT WE NEED. WE HAVE AN IDEA, BUT WE NEED TO WE NEED TO HAVE A CONCRETE PLAN ON WHAT WE NEED FOR THE MUSEUM. SO I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT, KNOW, DON'T VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT ENOUGH. I THINK THAT WE CAN MAKE IT WORK WITHIN THIS. WE JUST MAY HAVE TO MOVE SOME THINGS AROUND. THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING TO DO. I THINK WE'RE ALL WELL AWARE OF THE FACT THAT TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS, 13 MILLION DOLLARS AND THAT'S WITHOUT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SHELL OF A MUSEUM, YOU KNOW, WE LOST EVERY DISPLAY. WE HAVE NOTHING, WE HAVE SOME ARTIFACTS LEFT, BUT WE HAVE NOTHING LEFT. WE'RE BUILDING FROM SCRATCH. AND THAT SCRATCH THAT WE HAVE TO BUILD IS GOING TO BE ON US. SO WE HAVE TO WORK AT THIS VERY CAREFULLY AND DECIDE, YOU KNOW, ALONG WITH THE DESIGN TEAM EXACTLY WHAT THIS MUSEUM IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AT THE END OF THE DAY AND HOW MUCH SPACE WE [INAUDIBLE]. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR TURNER. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. MY CONCERN WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS IS THAT THE INTENT HERE IS TO MOVE GROUPS OUT OF THE ARTS CENTER AND EXPAND THE MUSEUM. I MEAN, WE SHOULD GET A REALITY CHECK, THE MUSEUM HAS OVER TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF EXHIBIT SPACE SCHEDULE, SOME 750 SQUARE FEET OF STORAGE, AND I UNDERSTAND THEY NEED STORAGE, I DON'T MIND EXPANDING A LITTLE, BUT ALSO INCLUDED WAS ANOTHER SIX HUNDRED FEET OF EXHIBIT SPACE ON THE WALLS. SO WE HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF EXHIBIT SPACE GOING ON HERE. AND IF THE MUSEUM EVER GETS A TRAVELING ROAD SHOW LIKE THE [INAUDIBLE] AND I SEEM TO RECALL THE LAST ONE WAS DINOSAURS ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, THERE IS SPACE IN THE THEATER THAT SEATING'S RETRACTABLE. IT'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF SPACE. AND WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE HERE IS A SITUATION WHERE IT'S MURPHY'S LAW THAT ONE ASPECT EXPANDS TO FILL THE SPACE AVAILABLE. I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THESE PORTIONS OF OUR ARTS AND CULTURE CENTER AND WE HAVE TO DO IT EQUITABLY. AND MY CONCERN IS IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EQUITABLE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND SHOVE OFF SOME OF THE ARTS. MR. ANTUNES, YOU HAD SOMETHING TO ADD. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU COUNCILOR TURNER DID TOUCH ON IT. ONE THING THE CONSULTANTS DID SPEAK ABOUT IS IN CIRCULATION SPACES THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY, IN THE BASIC DESIGN, THEY DID HAVE AN ADDITIONAL ONE THOUSAND SIXTY SQUARE FEET OF EXHIBITION SPACE, AS NOTED IN THE IMAGES AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION, THERE IS AN IMAGE OF EXHIBITION SPACE THROUGHOUT THE HALLWAYS AND CIRCULATION SPACES AS WELL. AND TO COUNCILOR TURNER ALLUDED TO IT AS WELL, NOT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THEATER SPACE AS WELL DOES TRANSFORM FROM A TYPICAL THEATER. THE SEATS RETRACT INTO THE FLOOR [INAUDIBLE] SEATS RETRACT INTO THE WALL, AND WE ARE LEFT WITH A WIDE OPEN SPACE AS WELL AS FOR EVENTS AND EXHIBITS AS [INAUDIBLE] MENTIONED. THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES. COUNCILOR PEARCE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THROUGH YOU. MR. GAGNON MADE ALLUSION TO THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING SOME OPTIONS IN THE UPCOMING, UH, DISCUSSION ON THE ARTS CENTER HUB DISCUSSIONS. BUT, UM. I WILL VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE I THINK I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR FINAMORE THAT WE WANT TO MOVE AHEAD AND THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PLANNING IS GOING THE WAY WE WANT IT TO GO. HOWEVER, I DISAGREE VERY STRONGLY WITH WHAT COUNCILOR TURNER SAID. I THINK THAT REMOVING. POTTERY CLUB AND THE WEAVING CLUB AND THE VARIOUS OTHER ARTS CLUBS FROM THE CENTER [01:55:10] IS NOT DIMINISHING IT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. THOSE ARE WORKROOMS. THEY STILL CAN DISPLAY THEIR WARES BOTH IN THE GALLERY AND IN THE HALLWAYS, THERE'S LOTS OF PLACES FOR THEM TO DO THAT. THEY'RE STILL PART OF THE ARTS COMMUNITY. IT JUST MAY NOT BE IN A SPACE THAT WE GAVE THEM BECAUSE WE HAD EXCESS SPACE IN AN OLD HOTEL. NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING A 12 TO 13 MILLION DOLLAR BUILDING THAT'S AWFULLY EXPENSIVE REAL ESTATE TO BE PUTTING KILNS AND WEAVING LOOMS AND CERAMIC POTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SORRY, I JUST CAN'T AGREE WITH THAT. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR CYR. THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. UNLIKE COUNCILOR PEARCE, I THINK PERSONALLY, THE ARTS COMMUNITY HAS DIRECT IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY. A COMMUNITY IS ONLY AS STRONG AS ITS ARTS COMMUNITY AND IT'S TO ME, IT'S PARAMOUNT AND CRITICAL THAT WE KEEP IT TOGETHER BECAUSE TOGETHER THERE'S STRENGTH IN THE COMMUNITY. SO I THINK TO ME IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT STAYS TOGETHER AND EACH ASPECT OF THE ARTS REINFORCES AND STRENGTHENS THE OTHER. THEY'RE ALL INTERCONNECTED, AND I THINK IF WE LOSE SIGHT OF THAT, WE'RE ONLY HURTING OUR COMMUNITY. SO TO ME, IT SHOULD ALL STAY TOGETHER. COUNCILOR PATRIE. YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE ARTS, THE KILN AND THE WEAVERS, AND SO FORTH SHOULDN'T BE IN THE FACILITY. I'M SAYING WHEN YOU'VE GOT OVER 6000 FEET AT A COST OF THREE MILLION DOLLARS, ALMOST. AND THEN YOU'RE CUTTING YOUR MUSEUM IN HALF, THE INSURANCE MONEY IS BECAUSE WE LOST OUR THEATER AND OUR MUSEUM. IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF THOSE. THOSE ARE MUNICIPAL ASSETS THAT WE HAVE TO REBUILD AND REPLACE. THEY ARE THE DRIVERS SO THAT THIS FACILITY CAN ACTUALLY BE THERE. THE PROBLEM IS YOU COULD BUILD A BUILDING FOR ALL OF THESE VENUES, IF THEY ALL NEEDED THAT KIND OF SPACE, THE PROBLEM IS YOU DON'T NEED SIX THOUSAND FEET; THEY CAN SHARE SPACE. SO IF WE CAN GIVE THEM TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED AND PUT SIX THOUSAND BACK INTO THE MUSEUM WHERE THE MUSEUM HAD THAT BEFORE, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. MY PROBLEM IS IF WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING AND WE'RE STRUGGLING TO GET THIS BUILT, I DON'T WANT TO LOSE HAVING A THEATER AND A MUSEUM IN THIS MUNICIPALITY ANY LONGER THAN WE HAVE TO. SO I WANT THIS BUILT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, AS ECONOMICAL AS POSSIBLE. AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DO THIS SO THAT THEATER AND MUSEUM CAN OPEN AND THE GALLERY CAN OPEN AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. IT'S BAD ENOUGH WE'RE GOING TO BE FIVE YEARS FROM LOSING IT OR SIX YEARS AT THIS RATE. SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPERATIVE THAT WE DO THIS RIGHT AND WE GET IT DONE IF WE NEED TO PUT THEM ELSEWHERE, WE DO HAVE THAT SPACE, AS MR. GAGNON HAS GIVEN US THAT INFORMATION TO DO THAT AT THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. AND THAT'S PROBABLY A BETTER THING. I DON'T WANT TO BE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A LITTLE MUSEUM, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO USE A THEATER THAT SOMETIMES CAN BE RETRACTED AND USE THAT AS A POTENTIAL MUSEUM BECAUSE WITH THE AMOUNT OF ARTS PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE IN THIS MUNICIPALITY, I WANT THAT THEATER TO BE UTILIZED 90 PERCENT OF THE TIME AND THAT TRACTABILITY IS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS AND SO FORTH. IT'S NOT FOR STORING MUSEUM PIECES OR USING IT FOR. A TRAVELING MUSEUM ISSUE, AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WHEN THAT FACILITY COLLAPSED, WE DID HAVE TRAVELING STUFF WORTH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY, BUT THERE WAS SOME PRETTY VALUABLE, VALUABLE ITEMS IN THERE THAT WERE VERY TERRIFIED THAT WERE GOING TO HAVE DAMAGED THAT HAD TO COME OUT OF THERE. SO THAT WASN'T 20 TO 30 YEARS AGO. WE HAD TRAVELING EXHIBITS IN THAT FACILITY WHEN THE BUILDING COLLAPSED. THANK YOU. I THINK EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT, WE NEED TO SEE THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD AND SOME OF THE SPACES MIGHT BE FINAGLED A LITTLE BIT LATER. I AM EXCITED LOOKING AT THE PICTURES. I SEE HERE OVER A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF ROTATING DISPLAYS THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY, I THINK IT WILL ACTUALLY BRING A LOT MORE INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO WALK THROUGH THE CORRIDORS AND THE RECEPTION AND SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS AND SEE SOME [02:00:01] OF OUR ARTIFACTS AND SOME OF THE ARTWORK DISPLAYED. I THINK IT'S REALLY GOING TO ENCOMPASS THE BOTH ARTS AND CULTURE IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS MOVING FORWARD AND I LOOK FORWARD TO FUTURE DISCUSSIONS. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO CALL FOR ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILOR PATRIE. THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU. SEVEN POINT EIGHT REFERRAL FROM THE ARTS HUB STEERING COMMITTEE, ARTS HUB FUNDRAISING. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON THIS COUNCILOR FINAMORE. MR. ANTUNES. THANK YOUR WORSHIP THIS WAS ACTUALLY PUT ON THE AGENDA, BUT AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE MEETING WAS FRIDAY MORNING AND IT WAS A BIT OF A MARATHON CARRIED ON. THIS WAS ADDED INITIALLY TO THE AGENDA, BUT IT WAS DEFERRED TO THE NEXT MEETING. OK, PERFECT. SO IT'S REDUNDANT. THANK YOU. EIGHT OUTSIDE BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTING, EIGHT POINT ONE, ELLIOTT LAKE, [8. OUTSIDE BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTING] JUNIOR HOCKEY BOARD UPDATE FROM COUNCILOR PEARCE, WHO IS THE MUNICIPAL REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS BOARD? COUNCILOR PEARCE, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU. I'D LIKE TO REMIND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT COUNCIL REQUESTED THAT THE ELLIOT LAKE JUNIOR HOCKEY TEAM MAKE A REPRESENTATION TO COUNCIL. SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. COUNCIL ALSO ASKED THAT WE COME WITH A PROPOSAL TO RETIRE THE DEBT OF APPROXIMATELY FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT'S OWED TO THE CITY AND WE HAVE COME TO YOU WITH THAT. IT'S BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF INTEREST AND THIS OBVIOUSLY ANYBODY WHO'S READING OUR FRIENDS ON THE BUZZ AND ALL THE OTHER REALLY WONDERFUL SOCIAL MEDIA SITES. LOTS OF THINGS, BUT I WOULD REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT WHAT WE ARE COMING HERE WITH IS A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD REQUEST AS PER YOUR REQUEST TO US SAYING THIS IS HOW WE FEEL WE CAN LEGITIMATELY RETIRE THE DEBT AND FOR THE 50000 DOLLARS, WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING SOME SPONSORSHIP MONEY, WHICH WOULD BE COULD BE USED FOR PAYING ICE TIME. WE HAVE PAID ALL OF OUR DEBTS OTHER THAN THE DEBT TO THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AND TO ELNOS. WE'VE PAID THE LEAGUE, WE PAID ALL OF OUR SUPPLIERS. WE FULLY INTEND TO PAY EVERY DEBT AND WE INTEND TO HAVE AN OPERATING HOCKEY TEAM ON THE ICE IN SEPTEMBER IF ALGOMA PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT ALLOW. WE FULLY EXPECT THEY WILL, BUT OBVIOUSLY ANY DIRECTION WILL BE FROM THEM. WE WOULD BE LESS THAN PROPER STEWARDS OF OUR TEAM, IF WE DIDN'T MAKE PLANS TO HAVE THAT SEASON START, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING, WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF TWO OF OUR MAJOR SPONSORS, SPECIFICALLY RETIREMENT LIVING AND THE ELNOS AND WE ARE NOW LOOKING FOR SUPPORT FROM OUR THIRD MAJOR SPONSOR, WHICH IS THE CITY OF ELLIOTT LAKE. AS I'VE SAID BOTH PUBLICLY AND ON THE INTERNET, IF COUNCILOR WANTS TO ACCEPT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT IT, THAT'S UP TO YOU. IF YOU WANT TO ACCEPT ONE PART OF IT, BUT NOT THE OTHER, THAT'S ALSO UP TO YOU. POINT OF ORDER YOUR WORSHIP. COULD WE GET A MOVER AND SECONDER IF WE'RE GOING TO--HE'S GOING TO DEBATE IT IF WE DON'T. I WILL BE GETTING TO THE MOVEMENT IN A MOMENT, PLEASE, COUNCILOR, THANK YOU. SO, MR. GAGNON. I HAD ASKED, IF POSSIBLE, TO HAVE TWO MEMBERS OF THE TEAM HERE AS A RESOURCE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. YEAH, THEY ARE IN A WAITING ROOM. IF COUNCIL WISHES, I CAN INVITE THEM IN NOW. [02:05:01] QUESTION, MR. GAGNON, I KNOW PROCEDURALLY THERE SHOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE TABLE, MOVED AND SECONDED. NORMALLY IN AREAS WHERE WE LOOK AT A OVERALL PRESENTATION, WE DO ALLOW THE PRESENTATION TO GO ON PRIOR TO A RECOMMENDATION. THESE ARE ODD TIMES WITH THE PANDEMIC AND HOW PRESENTATIONS ARE ALLOWED OR NOT ALLOWED, WHICH IS WHY COUNCILOR PEARCE IS PRESENTING THIS REPORT TODAY. SO I'M KIND OF CURIOUS IF THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION THAT CAN BE MOVED AND SECONDED SO WE CAN BEGIN A DISCUSSION. OK, IF YOU WILL. THE CITY SUPPORT FOR THE TEAM THROUGH SPONSORSHIP OF TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR WHICH WOULD BE APPLIED AGAINST ICE TIME ON AN EXISTING BASIS AND TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS WHICH WOULD BE USED TO RETIRE THE DEBT OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR TWO COMPONENTS OF SPONSORSHIP, ONE OF TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS TO RETIRE THE DEBT AND ONE OF TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS TO PAY FOR ICE TIME. THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION AND PROPOSAL FROM THE ELLIOT LAKE HOCKEY TEAM. AND I SO MOVE IT. IS THERE A SECONDER FOR THIS MOTION SO WE CAN BEGIN A DISCUSSION? SECOND BY COUNCILOR CYR. THANK YOU. MAY I CONTINUE? YES, COUNCILOR PEARCE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THINGS POSTED ONLINE AND THERE ARE LETTERS WHICH I KNOW THAT WILL BE BROUGHT UP LATER. I WOULD REMIND THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL THAT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED ARE NOT THE PURVIEW OF COUNCIL. THEY'RE THE PURVIEW OF A PRIVATE CORPORATION. AND IF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD OR OF THE MANAGEMENT TEAM, THEY CAN DO SO. I'M HOPING WHEN OUR RESOURCE PEOPLE ARE LET IN THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE DIRECTION AS TO WHERE THE QUESTIONS CAN BE ASKED, WHETHER IT BE ASKED OF THE MANAGEMENT TEAM OR OF THE HOCKEY BOARD, BUT SOME QUESTIONS ARE NOT REALLY RELEVANT TO EITHER COUNCIL OR TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE, THEY HAVE TO DO WITH PRIVATE CONTRACTS BETWEEN THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY AND THE BOARD. AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISCUSS, NOT HERE. MR. GAGNON JUST A QUICK POINT. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO BRING IN THE TWO MEMBERS OF THE-- I WOULD APPRECIATE IT, SIR-- THAT'S UP TO COUNCIL. IF COUNCIL WANTS THEM NOW. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOUR WORSHIP, I THINK WE SHOULD STAY AS A COUNCIL UNTIL THEN. THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A PUBLIC PRESENTATION. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A COUNCIL MEETING. WE HAVEN'T ALLOWED ANY OTHER PRESENTATIONS. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS OF RESOURCES, WE CAN POSSIBLY BRING THEM IN IF REQUIRED. BUT I WAS-- I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REMIND YOU-- POINT OF ORDER, I'M SPEAKING HANG ON JUST A SECOND TO LET COUNCILOR PATRIE FINISH-- APOLOGIES. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR PATRIE, CONTINUE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A REPORT FROM THE COMMITTEE. AND THIS IS ACTUALLY IF WE'RE BRINGING IN MEMBERS FROM THE OUTSIDE, WHICH WE HAVEN'T ALLOWED ANYBODY TO DO DURING THE PANDEMIC, I GET IT, IF WE DO HAVE QUESTIONS OF THEM AND COUNCILOR PEARCE AS THE BOARD REP IS BRINGING THIS FORWARD, CAN'T ANSWER AND NEEDS ASSISTANCE. THAT'S DIFFERENT, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A CONVERSATION AS A COUNCIL PRIOR, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CARRY THIS OUT ACCORDING TO OUR PROCEDURAL BYLAW, THAT THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC PRESENTATION. SO WE'LL KEEP THE RESOURCES IN THE QUEUE IF THERE IS QUESTIONS FOR THEM TO ANSWER. THEY ARE ONLINE, SO WE'LL KEEP THEM THERE. AND I KNOW WE HAVE COUNCILOR CYR AND COUNCILOR MANN ALREADY HAVE HANDS UP FOR QUESTIONS. COUNCILOR CYR. THANKS, I HAVE SEVERAL POINTS OF CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS. I CANNOT APPROVE THIS REQUEST FOR SUPPORT FOR THE HOCKEY TEAM AS IT IS CURRENTLY PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE CITIZENS HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY MANY OF THEIR MUNICIPAL FACILITIES FOR AN EXTREMELY LONG TIME NOW. THERE ARE STILL TOO MANY ECONOMIC UNKNOWNS IN OUR FISCAL FUTURE FOR COUNCIL TO GIVE SERIOUS CONSIDERATION OF FINANCIALLY SUPPORTING SUCH ENTERPRISES TO SUCH A DEGREE WITHOUT SUBSTANTIAL CITY CONTROL OR SAY ON A DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS AND SPENDING OF SUCH AN ORGANIZATION. THIS HOCKEY TEAM IS SURELY AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT IS ALSO AN [02:10:05] UNCONTROLLABLE EXPENSE THAT I FEEL THE BOARD HASN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN CONTROLLING SINCE ITS INCEPTION. I ALSO FIND IT SURPRISING THAT THE BOARD HAS FOUND THE RESOURCES TO HIRE OUTSIDE MANAGEMENT FOR THE OPERATION DURING SUCH A PROLONGED PERIOD OF NONREVENUE GENERATION, WHILE ALSO TO THIS DATE NOT MAKING ANY SIGNIFICANT OR MEANINGFUL CONTRIBUTIONS TOWARDS ELLIOT LAKE TAXPAYERS. THAT HAS BEEN OUTSTANDING FOR MANY YEARS NOW. AND HERE THEY ARE ASKING TAXPAYERS FOR MORE. IF THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS TO HANDLE THE OPERATING OF THE CLUB. THEN I ASK YOU, WHY DO WE NEED THE BOARD? IT SEEMS THESE DAYS BUREAUCRACY AND ENTITIES DEPENDENT ON GOVERNMENT SOURCES OF REVENUE ALWAYS HAS A REASON TO ASK FOR MORE HELP FOR THEM TO COVER EXPENSES, BUT JUST AS THIS REPORT SHOWS US, THAT DELIVERS NO DETAILS ON ANY REVENUE OR PROJECTED REVENUES TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE PLAN SUSTAINABLE AND VIABLE INTO THE FUTURE. SUSTAINABILITY BEING THE KEY WORD HERE, FOR IF SOMETHING ISN'T SUSTAINABLE, THEN IT'S A BURDEN. AND TAXPAYERS AND THIS CURRENT PANDEMIC ENVIRONMENT CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE UNPREDICTABLE BURDENS HOLD THEM DOWN TO ANY MORE FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS THAN THEY CAN AFFORD. MY QUESTION TO THE BOARD IS, THIS: YEAR OVER YEAR, COUNCIL ALWAYS SEEMS TO GET A REQUEST FOR MORE MONEY, BUT WE NEVER SEEM TO GET CLEAR INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC IN REGARDS TO EXACTLY HOW AND WHY THEIR MONIES WILL BE UTILIZED AND SPENT. THAT IS WRONG AND IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IF I WAS A YOUNG ENTREPRENEUR BRINGING THIS EXACT REPORT TO ELNOS FOR FINANCIAL SUPPORT AND CONSIDERATION AS A BUSINESS, THE BOARD WOULD DENY IT AS AN INCOMPLETE BUSINESS PLAN WITH NO REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS OF PROFIT OR AT THE VERY LEAST BREAK EVEN PERFORMANCE OUT THE DOOR. I WOULD BE SENT TO REWORK MY PLAN UNTIL I WOULD COMPLY. HOW IS IT THAT COUNCIL, ONCE AGAIN HAS INCOMPLETE DOCUMENTS AND BEING ASKED FOR SUPPORT? HOW IS IT WE SEE NO PLAN OR REVENUE EXPECTATIONS? HOW CAN ANY BUSINESS OR PROFESSIONAL OPERATION IN THIS DAY AND AGE OF FISCAL RESTRAINT BE EXPECTED TO SUCCEED WITHOUT BURDENING OR WASTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS? MY SECOND QUESTION IS, HOW MANY PERSONS ARE ON THIS BOARD WITH A PROFIT FOR BUSINESS BACKGROUND WHICH COULD HELP THIS BOARD IN HAVING A MORE BALANCED PLAN FOR PERFORMANCE AND REVENUE GENERATION TO MAKE THIS A VIABLE HOCKEY OPERATION? IN THE REAL HOCKEY WORLD WHEN MANAGEMENT FAILED TO DELIVER, THEY ARE FIRED AND REPLACED. SO I ASK YOU, WHEN WILL THIS BOARD MAKE A SERIOUS PLAN THAT AT LEAST TRIES TO PERFORM WHILE AT THE SAME TIME MAXIMIZING EFFORTS TO GENERATE REVENUE SO THAT ELLIOT LAKE TAXPAYERS CAN HAVE AT LEAST SOME OF THEIR MONEY BACK IN ORDER TO REPAIR ITS FACILITIES AND ROADS RATHER THAN BEING SUNK INTO A BOTTOMLESS PIT THAT ALWAYS TALK ABOUT HOPE AND EXCITING CHANGES, BUT NEVER DELIVER. THE TAXPAYERS DESERVE THAT ANSWER. IN CLOSING, I FIND IT UNACCEPTABLE THAT THE BOARD EXPECTS TAXPAYERS TO JUST DISSOLVE FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS OF DEBT STILL OUTSTANDING WHILE NOT SEEMING TO DEMONSTRATE ANY EFFORTS TO MEANINGFULLY INCREASE REVENUE EXPECTATIONS. TOO MUCH EMPHASIS IS PLACED ON THE TAXPAYER AND FUNDERS AND NOT ENOUGH TRANSPARENCY AND FOCUS IS PLACED ON THE END USERS TO MAKE THIS A SUSTAINABLE AND ACCEPTABLE PLAN. SOCIETY NEEDS TO MINIMIZE OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS DEPENDENT ON ITS PERSONS, NOT TO INCREASE IT. ESPECIALLY ON ONE WHICH HAS SHOWN IT HAS NOT BEEN CAPABLE OF SUFFICIENTLY MANAGING ITSELF, THE SUSTAINABILITY IN SEVEN YEARS. COUNCILOR PEARCE AS AN ELNOS DIRECTOR WHO MAKES TOUGH CALLS ON BUSINESSES EVERY DAY, WHAT WILL ELNOS DO TO A BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN LOSING MONEY, SIGNIFICANT MONEY FOR SEVEN YEARS? AT THE VERY LEAST, I THINK IT REQUIRES A MAJOR RESTRUCTURING AND NEW DIRECTION, BUT HOW IS NAMING OUR LOCAL CLUB AFTER A MEDIOCRE AMERICAN HOCKEY CLUB SUPPOSED TO HELP RECREATE A MIRACLE COMEBACK? I, FOR ONE, HAVE LITTLE FAITH IN THIS DIRECTION AND PLAN. I AS A COUNCILOR DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS HOCKEY CLUB FAIL. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT IS TIME FOR A MOTHER CITY TO TELL ITS TEENAGER, THE HOCKEY CLUB, THAT IT NEEDS TO DO MORE TO HELP PAY FOR A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE, OR ELSE IT WOULD ONLY HURT ALL CONCERNED TO ALLOW THIS UNREASONABLE DEPENDENCY TO CONTINUE MUCH LONGER. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. [02:15:01] COUNCILOR CYR WAS THERE A SPECIFIC QUESTION THAT YOU HAD FOR COUNCILOR PEARCE OR ANY OF THE REPRESENTATIVES? WHERE IS THE PLAN FOR MONEY? THEY GIVE US THE PLAN FOR SPENDING MONEY, WE HAVE NO PLAN OF REVENUE FORECAST OR NO PLAN ON EXACTLY HOW THE MONEY IS SPENT. THERE IS NO ANSWERS FOR THE CITIZENS. IT'S ONLY A ONE SIDED BUSINESS PLAN. WHERE IS THE REVENUE PART? COUNCILOR PEARCE IS THERE ANY ANYTHING ABOUT LOOKING AT THE YEAR FORWARD BUSINESS PLAN? I DON'T THINK THAT I WANT TO DISCUSS THAT, I WOULD ASK IF YOU'RE GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION, I WOULD ASK THAT BE HANDLED BY MR. KUTCHAW, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT AND CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD. MR. KUTCHAW, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO ANSWER COUNCILOR CYR QUESTION ABOUT BUSINESS PLAN FOR THE 2021-22 OR 2020-21 SEASON? HE'S NOT IN THE ZOOM YET. HE'S IN THE WAITING ROOM. I CAN INVITE HIM IN WHEN--IT'S A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE--BUT WHEN TIME COMES OR WHEN I'M DIRECTED TO DO SO, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. OK, SO WE'LL HANG ON TO THAT QUESTION FOR WHEN MR. KUTCHAW IS IN. COUNCILOR MANN. THANK YOUR WORSHIP. I'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO COUNCILOR CYR. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A LOT OF PASSION REGARDING THIS EVENT. AND I JUST I REALLY HOPE THIS DOESN'T GET DEGRADED INTO AN ARGUMENT TONIGHT, REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME. MYSELF, PERSONALLY, I FEEL THAT THERE IS A PLACE FOR HOCKEY IN THIS COMMUNITY. HOWEVER, THE TERM THAT KEEPS RESONATING IN MY HEAD IS: AT WHAT COST? WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND HAVE HAD FOR MANY YEARS A PLATINUM SPONSORSHIP WITH THIS TEAM, TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR. I WAS THERE WHEN THE INITIAL TEAM WAS FORMED AND CLEARLY WE'VE GONE THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT AGREEMENTS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE THAT WAS INKED IN TWENTY NINETEEN THAT ESSENTIALLY SAYS THE BALANCE OF THE OUTSTANDING IS TO BE REPAID BY THE END OF 2022. WE'RE 18 MONTHS INTO THAT AGREEMENT AT THIS POINT. AND AGAIN, AS I'VE SAID IT, [INAUDIBLE], FOR YEARS, ALL I'M LOOKING FOR IS A COMMITMENT. IF SOMEONE HAS TWO DOLLARS AND THEY GIVE ME 50 CENTS, THAT'S A COMMITMENT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO REPAY SOMETHING. MY RELATIONSHIP TONIGHT IS NOT WITH THE MANAGEMENT GROUP. COUNCILOR PEARCE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. THE ONLY RELATIONSHIP THAT THIS MUNICIPALITY HAS IS WITH THE BOARD PERIOD. ANY DEALINGS GOING ON BETWEEN THE MANAGEMENT GROUP AND THE BOARD THAT'S THEIRS, IT'S GOTTEN REALLY NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY ROLE THAT I HAVE AT THIS TABLE TONIGHT. AND CLEARLY THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE MADE DECISIONS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE FRANCHISE. AND I, I AGREE WITH THOSE AND THEY'RE REALLY NONE OF MY BUSINESS. HAVING SAID THAT, THE ASK THAT HAS COME FORWARD TONIGHT AND AGAIN, WE'VE RECEIVED LOTS OF COMMENTS. I'VE RECEIVED MORE INFORMATION OVER THE LAST WEEK FROM NON MUNICIPAL RESOURCES THAN IS ON THE THREE PIECES OF PAPER THAT I HAVE TONIGHT. AND EVEN IF HALF OF IT IS ACCURATE, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT COULD HAVE POTENTIALLY BEEN SHARED IN A MORE FORMAL VENUE WITH THIS COUNCIL. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROPONENT WAS IN THE COMMUNITY IN FEBRUARY. CLEARLY, EVEN AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT TO TALK TO COUNCIL AT THAT POINT WOULD HAVE BEEN POTENTIALLY BENEFICIAL AS A WAY TO AT LEAST BREAK THE ICE INSTEAD OF IT FEELING LIKE IN THE 11TH HOUR, AGAIN, WITH NO DISRESPECT THAT WE HAVE THIS REPORT BEFORE US TONIGHT WITH NOW A ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR ASK. NOW, WHETHER IT'S NON-CASH OR CASH, IT'S STILL ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. I'M PREPARED TO SUPPORT HOCKEY MOVING FORWARD, BUT MY NUMBER IS TEN THOUSAND PER YEAR. FIFTY THOUSAND AGREEMENT MOVING FORWARD AND WHETHER THE TEAM WANTS TO TAKE HALF OF IT IN DEBT REPAYMENT AND HALF OF THAT TOWARDS ICE. FINE. BUT MY NUMBER IS 10, NOT 20 PER YEAR. THAT'S A COMMITMENT THAT WE'VE CURRENTLY HAD. I WILL LEAVE ALL THE OTHER COMMENTS OUT THERE BECAUSE AGAIN, REALLY, AGAIN, IF ONLY HALF OF THEM ARE TRUE, THEN CLEARLY WE NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH THE BOARD AT A MEETING AND NOT AT 9:30 AT NIGHT AT A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING AND HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION ON HOW TO MAKE THIS RELATIONSHIP WORK SO THAT WE ALL FEEL LIKE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I DO NOT FEEL LIKE I'M ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THE CURRENT BOARD AND THE NEW MANAGEMENT GROUP MOVING FORWARD. I'LL LEAVE THOSE COMMENTS FOR NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [02:20:01] COUNCILOR PATRIE. THANK YOU. THROUGH YOU, I'M GOING TO MAYBE CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT COUNCILOR CYR, I THINK, WAS TRYING TO SAY. FIRST OFF, COUNCILOR PEARCE SAYS THAT THEY WERE ASKED TO COME BACK. THEY WERE ASKED TO COME BACK WITH A BUSINESS PLAN AND FINANCIALS TO RATIFY THE 2019 REQUEST. THAT HASN'T HAPPENED. THAT'S NOT PART OF TONIGHT'S MEETING, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE HOPING THAT WE WOULD BE SEEING. PLEASE UNDERSTAND, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH A HOCKEY TEAM. WE HAVEN'T HAD AN AGREEMENT SINCE TWENTY FIFTEEN, ALL THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE PUT INTO PLACE HAVE NOT BEEN RATIFIED BY THE BOARD. THERE'S STILL AN OUTSTANDING DEBT OF FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. THERE'S AN ASK FOR 50, AT 10 AND 10 YEAR. THERE'S ALSO THE AGREEMENT THAT THE BOARD HAS BEEN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO CALL LIVING UNDER, BUT EXPECTING THERE'S TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR FROM THE TWENTY SEVENTEEN PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL IN RINK BOARD MONEY THAT THE HOCKEY TEAM HAS BEEN GETTING. THERE'S ALMOST FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS IN GYM AND POOL MEMBERSHIPS THAT THEY BEEN GETTING ON TOP OF THE TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS, THERE'S WORK THAT'S BEING DONE IN THE LOCKER ROOMS AT THE EXPENSE OF TAXPAYERS. STUFF THAT'S IN THIS REPORT THAT IS IN KIND THAT IS WELL ABOVE AND BEYOND THE 10000 DOLLARS A YEAR OF THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT. THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WAS FOR TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR OF IN-KIND MONEY. IT STATES IN HERE THAT IT'S NON-CASH. I'M SORRY, BUT NON-CASH COSTS THE TAXPAYERS. SO IF WE'RE ALLEVIATING FUNDS FOR A HOCKEY TEAM AND NOT ALLEVIATING FUNDS FOR THE FIGURE SKATING CLUB, BUT NOT ALLEVIATING FUNDS FOR MINOR HOCKEY, WE'RE GIVING AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE TO ONE GROUP, AND NOT THE OTHERS. SO I DON'T MIND BEING A PLATINUM SPONSORSHIP, WHICH WAS TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR, WHICH THE RINK BOARD ALONE COVER ALMOST ALL OF THAT MONEY. BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT THAN JUST THAT. THERE'S THE FINANCIALS THAT WE ASKED FOR, THE BUSINESS PLAN THAT WE ASKED FOR. SO THERE'S CONTRACTS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE OUTSTANDING FROM 2018, 2019 OR WHICHEVER. ARE THEY FULFILLED? ARE THEY PAID IN FULL? LAST TIME WHEN THIS BOARD CAME TO COUNCIL, THERE WAS OUTSTANDING MONEY THAT WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT. COUNCILOR PEARCE SAYS THAT IT'S PAID, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALLEVIATED OR NOT. ARE THEIR CONTRACTS EXTENDED? THERE WERE QUESTIONS AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THOSE ANSWERS NEVER CAME BACK TO COUNCIL. SO NOW COMING BACK TO COUNCIL IS JUST A NEW ASK. IT'S NOT GIVING US WHAT WE REQUESTED PREVIOUS AND SIMILAR TO COUNCILOR MANN, YES, MY EMAIL HAS BEEN GOING. MY TEXTS HAVE BEEN GOING. MY PHONE'S BEEN GOING. PEOPLE ARE KNOCKING ON MY DOOR. I'M GETTING AN AWFUL LOT MORE INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC THAT I'M GETTING FROM THE REPORT OR FROM COUNCILOR OR FROM STAFF. I WAS TOLD THAT THIS ISN'T JUST A MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT. IT'S ACTUALLY A PURCHASE AT THE END OF FIVE YEAR MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT AS A PURCHASE. I WAS TOLD THAT THERE'S ANOTHER PURCHASER INVOLVED THAT NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY. THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH THAT ISN'T BEING TOLD TO COUNCIL IN THIS REPORT FOR ME TO MAKE A DECISION TO SAY YES AND EVEN IF ALL OF THAT INFORMATION WAS IN THERE AT THE END OF THE DAY, BECAUSE THERE HASN'T BEEN THE GOOD FAITH REQUESTED FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS OF COUNCIL TO PROVIDE THE BUSINESS PLANS AND THE FINANCIALS, THE ASKED THE COUNCIL HAS HAD HAVE NEVER BEEN FULFILLED AND NONE OF OUR DOCUMENTATION HAS EVER BEEN RATIFIED BY THAT BOARD. IT'S THE SAME AS ANY OTHER PARTICIPANT IN THE MUNICIPALITY; IF YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP COMING TO THE TROUGH AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LIVE UP TO WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING, WE CAN'T JUST KEEP GIVING YOU MONEY. I'M SORRY, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE TAXPAYERS. I DO WANT TO SEE A HOCKEY TEAM HERE, WHETHER THE HOCKEY TEAM DECIDED TO CHANGE THE NAME AND CHANGE THE JERSEYS AND WHATEVER, THAT'S TOTALLY UP TO THAT CORPORATION. THAT'S NOT UP TO ME TO DECIDE. BUT THE ASPECT IS WHEN YOU'RE ASKING TO COME TO THE TROUGH OF THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS. YOU HAVE TO GIVE ME WHAT WE'VE REQUESTED TIME AND TIME AGAIN, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I JUST I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS REQUEST. THANKS. THANK YOU. [02:25:01] SO JUST FOR CLARITY, I THINK ALL OF OUR PHONES AND EMAILS HAVE EXPLODED WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THIS OVER THE WEEKEND. I DO RECALL DURING THE 2020 BUDGET CYCLE THAT WE DID GET FINANCIALS. AND AT THAT TIME WE DID REQUEST A BUSINESS PLAN, WHICH WE NEVER SAW. BUT THAT MAY HAVE TO DO WITH WE ROLLED RIGHT INTO COVID FROM BUDGET INTO COVID-19 IN MARCH OF 2020. SO THAT NEVER CAME BACK. BUT IT DOES GO BACK TO COUNCILLOR CYR QUESTION AND COUNCILLOR PATRIE WILL WE BE LOOKING AT A BUSINESS PLAN? EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE AS TO WE HAVE APPROVED TEN THOUSAND A YEAR AS A SPONSORSHIP. IT'S BEEN VERY CLEAR HERE THAT'S WHERE EVERYONE IS STAYING WITH THAT TEN THOUSAND YEAR SPONSORSHIP. BUT AGAIN, REQUEST TO SEE A BUSINESS PLAN. SO I'M CURIOUS IF WE CAN ASK ABOUT THE BUSINESS PLAN. COUNCILLOR PATRIE ANOTHER QUESTION. I'M HOPING TO GET SOMEONE IN HERE TO ANSWER THE BUSINESS PLAN. I'D LIKE TO JUST ANSWER IF I CAN. WELL, I'D LIKE CLARIFICATION OF WHAT THE MAYOR IS SAYING. MAY I? SO WE'RE AGREEING TO TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS ANNUAL SPONSORSHIP TO AN AGREEMENT THAT HAS NOT BEEN SIGNED, BUT THAT TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR WAS SUPPOSED TO BE STRICTLY A TEN THOUSAND DOLLAR A YEAR IN KIND DONATION FOR A PLATINUM SPONSORSHIP. ARE WE THIS TIME LIMITING IT AT THAT TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR, YOUR WORSHIP OR ARE WE INSINUATING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR IN KIND, PLUS ALL THE ADDITIONAL STUFF THAT HAS NOT BEEN RATIFIED SINCE TWENTY FIFTEEN? I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION IS IT TEN OR IS IT TEN PLUS? BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT SHOULD BE TEN FLAT ONLY. THAT POSES A LARGER QUESTION, COUNCILLOR PATRIE, YOU'RE CORRECT AND MR. GAGNON MAY HAVE THE ANSWERS ON THAT. THE WILDCATS WERE GIVEN QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS TO KEEP THEM AFLOAT. MR. GAGNON. BASICALLY, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT ONCE COUNCILLOR CONFIRMS THE BIG PICTURE THE 10 AND THE 10 OR JUST 10 WE'LL GET MORE INVOLVED, WE'LL COME BACK WITH A MORE DETAILED AGREEMENT THAT SPELLS OUT [INAUDIBLE] WE DON'T CARE HOW [INAUDIBLE]. LET'S SAY FOR SAKE OF ARGUMENT, COUNCIL AGREES IT'S TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS, JUST TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS IN IN-KIND SPONSORSHIP, THE BOARD CAN CHOOSE TO USE THAT FOR ICE OR THEY CAN CHOOSE TO USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE. BUT WHAT I THINK WHAT COUNCILLOR PATRIE IS GETTING AT IS OVER TIME, SINCE TWENTY FIFTEEN, THERE'S BEEN BITS HERE, THERE AND EVERYWHERE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO TIGHTEN UP AND CLARIFY AND THEN GET BACK IN FRONT OF COUNCIL WITH AN AGREEMENT THAT SAYS, HERE'S THE TEN THOUSAND AND THAT'S IT. TEN THOUSAND. FULL STOP. NO MORE RINK BOARDS, NO MORE THIS, NO MORE THAT POOL MEMBERSHIPS WE'RE FLIRTED WITH BUT NEVER ACTUALLY DONE IN MY TENURE. SO SINCE TWENTY EIGHTEEN. SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR NUMBER COMES FROM THERE. BUT ADMITTEDLY THERE IS NO AGREEMENT RIGHT NOW BETWEEN THE JUNIOR HOCKEY BOARD AND THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, AND THAT NEEDS TO GET CLARIFIED ONCE WE GET OVER THE FIRST HUMP OF, IS IT TEN AND TEN, OR IS IT JUST TEN OR IS IT DEBT FORGIVENESS OR IS IT DEBT FORGIVENESS AND SPONSORSHIP? WE NEED THE BIG PICTURE AND THEN STAFF CAN TIDY UP THE DETAILS AND GET BACK IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. COUNCILLOR MANN. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. THANK YOUR WORSHIP, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE ON MR. GAGNON POINT, IT'S 10 REGARDLESS OF WHAT THAT IS, WHETHER THAT'S PART OF DEBT REPAYMENT OR IT'S NOT, WE STILL HAVE A RESOLUTION OF COUNCILLOR FROM LAST YEAR SAYING THAT 50 NEEDS TO BE REPAID OVER THREE YEARS, WHICH ENDS THE END OF DECEMBER 2022. SO THAT MEANS ESSENTIALLY TWO PAYMENTS OF TWENTY FIVE TO PAY US BACK. YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN, AGAIN, LOTS OF ASKS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD. AND I APPRECIATE THE OTHER COMMENTS REGARDING BUSINESS PLANS AND INFORMATION COMING AND WE HAVE ASKED FOR THAT ALL ALONG. I THINK MYSELF, I WANT TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS A PRODUCT ON THE ICE IN SEPTEMBER. AGAIN, BARRING ANY SIGNIFICANT ISSUES WITH THE PANDEMIC, I HAVE GREAT CONCERNS ABOUT CAMPS AND TIMING AND OUR LOCKDOWN GOING UNTIL THE END OF MAY AND WHAT GOES ON BEYOND THAT, THE SAME WAY AS I HAD SIGNIFICANT ISSUES ABOUT PEOPLE TRAVELING HERE DURING A SKI SEASON TO OUR COMMUNITY WHERE WE WERE AT YELLOW WHEN THEY WERE COMING FROM ORANGE AND OTHER RESTRICTED AREAS TO SKI. I HAVE A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN WITH THAT AND I STILL DO. SO THAT IS A SECONDARY THING THAT I DON'T BELIEVE EVEN NEEDS TO BE ON THE AGENDA [02:30:03] NECESSARILY TONIGHT. BUT COUNCIL NEEDS TO DECIDE IS ICE GOING IN OR NOT IN JUNE? I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER DAY'S CONVERSATION. TONIGHT, WE NEED TO SAY, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A PRODUCT ON THE ICE, WHETHER THE PRODUCT IS RED AND WHITE OR A DIFFERENT COLOR? AGAIN, THAT'S NOT MY REALM OF ANYTHING OF RESPONSIBILITY TO ME. WHAT'S THE MUNICIPALITIES? NO. AND IS IT AN UPSET LIMIT OR IS IT A PLUS, PLUS, PLUS? FOR ME, IT'S AN UPSET LIMIT. AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN ADVISED THROUGH MANY DIFFERENT SOURCES, CONCESSIONS AND OTHER CHANGES IN THE PHYSICAL STRUCTURE THAT I THINK, AGAIN, WE START TALKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS THAT TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR GETS CHEWED UP PRETTY QUICK. SO WHAT DOES IT MEAN? CAN WE GET THIS WORKING AND DO WE HAVE SOME TIME TO WORK WITH STAFF IN ORDER TO FIX SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS? BUT 10 IS MY LIMIT, PERIOD. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF POINTS IN TERMS OF THE UPGRADES THAT WERE DONE TO THE LOCKER ROOM WAS WERE DONE BY THE HOCKEY TEAM, NOT BY THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE. WE DID IT. WE BUILT THEM. THE LOCKERS FOR THE PLAYERS, WE PAINTED THEM, UH, CITY STAFF DID NOT DO THAT, WE INSTALLED. AS I SAID AT THE BEGINNING. AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILLOR MANN, IT'S A VERY SIMPLE THING. YOU CAN AGREE TONIGHT ON TEN THOUSAND IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT YOUR UPSET LIMIT, THAT'S WHAT YOU MAKE IT. I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT, UH. AT SOME POINT, THERE'S GOT TO BE SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN ADMINISTRATION OF CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AND THE HOCKEY TEAM, AND WE COULD SIT DOWN AND WE CAN WORK THAT OUT. BUT THE QUESTION IS, BEFORE THIS COUNCIL IS, ARE YOU GOING TO PROVIDE TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR OR TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR SPONSORSHIP TO THE JUNIOR A HOCKEY TEAM THAT WILL BE RENTING YOUR ARENA FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS TO COME? AS FOR THE CAMPS AND THE TIMING, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, THAT'S ENTIRELY UP TO THE APH AND TO THE GOVERNMENT OF ONTARIO AND HOCKEY ONTARIO BEFORE WE EVEN THINK OF THAT. IDEALLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IT IN JUNE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. IT MAY BE SEPTEMBER. IT MAY BE NOVEMBER. WE DON'T KNOW. WE REALLY DON'T. SO IT'LL BE WHEN IT IS. WHATEVER THIS COUNCIL DECIDES, THAT'LL BE IT. SO I REALLY HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD. IF COUNCIL WANTS TO GO TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THAT'S WHAT YOU GO, YOU GO TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. IF YOU WANT TO GO TWENTY THOUSAND, GO TWENTY THOUSAND IF YOU WANT TO DO WHATEVER. YOUR CALL, YOU GO AHEAD AND MAKE AND DO THE THING. I KNOW THAT I WILL VOTE HOPEFULLY FOR THE RECOMMENDATION AS IT WAS PRESENTED, BUT THAT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU. OK, MR. GAGNON, YOU'VE HAD YOUR FINGER UP A COUPLE OF TIMES, YOU HAD A POINT, IT'S FINE. I'LL LET ONE JUMP BACK IN IF I NEED TO. OK, WE HAVE COUNCILLOR CYR, THEN PATRIE THEN TURNER LINED UP HERE. NO, I'M GOOD. YOU'RE GOOD. OK, COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THROUGH YOU, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH COUNCILLOR MANN, I'M NOT WILLING TO GO ABOVE THE TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS AND PRIOR TO THAT HAPPENING, HOWEVER THEY WANT TO DO IT, I WANT AN AGREEMENT RATIFIED IN WRITING. AGAIN, THAT 2019 AGREEMENT HAS NEVER BEEN SIGNED BY THIS BOARD. SO I WANT PEN TO PAPER AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MUNICIPALITY IS PROTECTED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT PROTECTED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. COUNCILLOR TURNER. THANK YOUR WORSHIP, I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE WHAT APPEARS TO BE A LACK OF A BUSINESS PLAN OR AT LEAST NOTHING PRESENTED TO US, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL HAS ANY KIND OF RIGHT TO THE PRIVATE CORPORATIONS INTERNAL BUSINESS AFFAIRS, HOWEVER. IN THIS CASE, WE'RE A LENDER, JUST LIKE ANY BANK. WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE FINANCIAL AFFAIRS OF THE CORPORATION ARE AND WHAT THE SPENDING IS, WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY IS TO ACTUALLY HAVE US REPAID. [02:35:07] THE AMOUNT OF TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR IS NOT THAT LARGE, CONSIDERING THE IMPACT THAT RESULTS FROM THE TEAM BEING HERE AND ACTUALLY PLAYING PROVIDES ENTERTAINMENT IN THE COMMUNITY. WE GIVE LARGER AMOUNTS TO DIFFERENT GROUPS OR ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY AND DON'T REALLY BAT AN EYE WHEN WE DO IT. THE AMOUNT OF 20000, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 10. WHEN YOU GET TO THE 20, NOW, I WANT YOU TO START TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO PAY US BACK. AND LIKE COUNCILLOR MANN SUGGESTED, IF YOU GOT 50 CENTS THAT YOU CAN SPARE THE TWO DOLLARS IN YOUR POCKET, GIVE US THE 50 CENTS. THAT'S GOOD. AT LEAST WE HAVE SOME GOOD FAITH ACTIVITY. I DO RECALL THE LAST TIME THAT THE TEAM WAS IN FRONT OF COUNCILLOR AND I SEEM TO RECALL THAT THE CASH FLOW PROJECTION WAS GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE BUSINESS PLAN THAT WOULD GIVE US SOME SENSE OF HOW SECURE THE TEAM IS, PARTICULAR PERIODS OR ITS WEAK POINTS AND WHERE IT MIGHT NEED SOME HELP IN THE FUTURE. IT GIVES US A COMFORT LEVEL IF WE HAD AT LEAST THAT IN FRONT OF US, AND I JUST WANT TO SEE SOMETHING. I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH RUMOR THAT THERE'S A BIAS FOR THE TEAM OR HAS BEEN A BUYER, ONE FAILED BUYER. WE'RE SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT THE TEAM NAMED AFTER A NOT SO GREAT NHL FRANCHISE, WHICH I THINK IS WRONG BECAUSE THE NAME IS NOT RED WINGS, IS JUST WINGS. I JUST WANT TO HEAR SOMETHING MORE THAT SAYS HOW IT'S GOING TO BE USED AND WHERE WE STAND WHEN IT COMES TO THE FIFTY THOUSAND. THIS COUNCIL HAS MOVED MULTIPLES OF 50000 IN THE BAT OF AN EYE. BUT IT HASN'T BEEN IN A LOAN DEAL. WE HAVE A LOAN DEAL, THAT WAS A DEAL DONE TWO COUNCILS AGO. AND MOVED THROUGH THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL, NOW IT'S MOVING ITS WAY THROUGH THIS ONE. IT [INAUDIBLE] SHOW US THE MONEY. OK, THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. AND BACK TO COUNCILLOR MANN. NO, I'M FINE YOUR WORSHIP, THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOUR WORSHIP I WOULD MOVE AN AMENDMENT OF A PLATINUM SPONSORSHIP IN THE AMOUNT OF UPSET LIMIT OF TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS PER ANNUM OVER A FIVE YEAR TERM TO THE AND IT DOES SAY COUNCILLOR TURNER, RED WINGS IN THEIR WEBSITE, SO IT'S RED WINGS TO THE ELLIOT LAKE. AND I WILL MAKE THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BOARD. SO THE ELLIOT LAKE JUNIOR HOCKEY, NOT FOR PROFIT CORPORATION. IS THERE A SECONDER FOR THAT AMENDMENT. DID WE READ THE AMENDMENT NOTE? MS. BRAY? THAT COUNCILLOR SUPPORT THE ELLIOT LAKE JUNIOR HOCKEY, NOT FOR PROFIT CORPORATION AS A PLATINUM SPONSOR AND UPSET LIMIT OF TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD. SECOND, IF WE COULD PUT [INAUDIBLE] IN THERE. SORRY? THE WORD "ALL IN?" UPSET LIMIT, YOUR WORSHIP. THAT'S WHAT I SAID, COUNCILLOR PATRIE. UPSET LIMIT TEN THOUSAND. I'LL SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION. I WAS GOING TO COMMENT THERE, COUNCILLOR TURNER BROUGHT UP AN INTERESTING POINT THAT WASN'T EVEN STIRRING AROUND MY MIND. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR SPONSORSHIP FOR THE HOCKEY TEAM THAT DOES BRING IN NOT JUST [INAUDIBLE] ENTERTAINMENT. OTHER TEAMS COMING IN THAT SPEND MONEY IN TOWN. A LOT OF TURN AROUND HERE. I'M NOT A HUGE HOCKEY FAN, BUT I DO GO TO THE GAMES ONCE IN A WHILE AND I DO [02:40:04] FIND IT ENTERTAINING ONCE IN A WHILE. HUGE TURN OFF, SPIN OFF FROM THAT EQUALLY OR BEYOND EQUALLY, WE'RE SPENDING 60 TO 70 THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR ON THE GOLF COURSE. WE'RE DONATING SPONSORSHIP TO THE RENAISSANCE SENIOR CENTER IN THE TUNE OF TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THE NUMBERS THAT ARE WRITTEN OFF FOR THE SKI CLUB A YEAR. WE ACTUALLY BUDGET MONEY FOR DIFFERENT ITEMS FOR THE SKI CLUB ALSO. SO, THAT'S A PART OF WHAT THIS COUNCIL DOES. WE'RE NOT A HUGE METROPOLITAN AREA WITH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN REVENUE FLOWING THROUGH THROUGH THIS COMMUNITY IN ORDER TO HAVE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE. I THINK THERE'S A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING AMONG THIS COUNCIL THAT SOME THINGS WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO ASSIST WHERE WE CAN. AND THE BIG QUESTION IS HOW MUCH DO WE ASSIST WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS, THESE NONPROFITS, IN ORDER TO SEE THEM SURVIVE AND THRIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. BUT IT IS ALL THE WAY AROUND. IT'S NOT JUST A HOCKEY TEAM. WE DO IT ALL THE WAY AROUND. COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. AND I THINK THAT'S WHY I THINK WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. I THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL. IT IS AN ABSOLUTE PIECE OF THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE JUNIOR A HOCKEY IN TOWN. I THINK THAT'S WHY THIS COUNCIL MADE A DECISION, I BELIEVE TWO YEARS AGO, TO SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS ON THE ROOF OF THE ARENA. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TALKING FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR, WE'VE SPENT SIGNIFICANT WE'RE TRYING TO GET A NEW REC CENTER, WHICH WOULD BE AMAZING TO HAVE JUNIOR A TEAM AND THAT TYPE OF FACILITY. WE'RE BUILDING MOMENTUM. IT ALL WORKS TOGETHER TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT AGAIN, IT BECOMES AT WHAT COST? YOU KNOW, THIS THIS WHOLE WEEK OF EMAILS AND MESSAGES. CLEARLY, SOME OF THE INFORMATION OUT THERE IS NOT POSITIVE. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME MENDING RELATIONSHIPS MOVING FORWARD, WHETHER THAT BE WITH THE MUNICIPALITY AND THE TEAM OR THE TEAM AND THE BROADER BUSINESS COMMUNITY. BUT WE'VE ALL SEEN THE EMAILS AND SOME OF THEM ARE NOT. AGAIN, WHETHER EVEN 50 PERCENT IS ACCURATE, IT'S OUT THERE AND WE NEED TO MOVE TOGETHER AS ONE. I'M NOT ASKING TO GET INTO THE INTRICACIES OF THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT. AGAIN, IT'S REALLY NOT MY BUSINESS, HOWEVER. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A ROUGH YEAR, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO COME INTO, THIS IS OUR FORECAST. IT'S NOT THE BEST. SO, YOU KNOW, A TEN THOUSAND DOLLAR SPONSORSHIP IS GOING TO HELP US. THOSE CONVERSATIONS HELP US AROUND THIS TABLE, MAKE DECISIONS. BUT WE NEED TO BE OPEN, WE NEED TO HAVE ALL THE SAME INFORMATION ALL THE SAME TIME, THERE'S LITTLE BITS AND PIECES. AGAIN, I'M HEARING ALL KINDS OF OTHER THINGS. WE HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED ABOUT CONCESSION AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY BEING REQUESTED. SO AND I'M NOT GOING TO TONIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S FOR ADMINISTRATION TO COME AND TALK ABOUT AFTER IT'S NOT MY PLACE. BUT AGAIN, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS. BUT WE NEED TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE HERE. PATRIE. THANK YOU. I'M SORT OF IN FAVOR WITH WHAT COUNCILLOR MANN IS SAYING HERE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT, I FORGET WHAT ALL WAS SAID, BUT I'D LIKE TO INCLUDE AN AGREEMENT AND A BYLAW IS SIGNED AND ENDORSED PRIOR TO ANY OF THIS HAPPENING. AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THE FACT THAT SINCE TWENTY FIFTEEN, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SIGNED. SO THAT'S A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. I'LL STOP THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE MOVER IS FINE WITH THAT BEFORE I CARRY ON. YOU'RE OK WITH THAT, COUNCILLOR MANN? OK. SO, AGAIN, THERE IS STUFF IN THIS DOCUMENTATION THAT I DON'T--IF WE'RE GOING TO DO STUFF, IT'S GOT TO BE WITHIN THAT TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THE TEN THOUSAND DOLLAR PLATINUM SPONSORSHIP THAT WE HAVE AGREED TO SINCE THE INCEPTION, WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS IN THE BEGINNING WHEN WE SPONSORED THE ELLIOT LAKE BOBCATS, THE FIRST NAME OF THIS JUNIOR HOCKEY CORPORATION. THEY OWED NINETY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS, AND THEY MADE PAYMENTS AND THEY MADE GOOD PAYMENTS SOME YEARS AND SOME YEARS, THEY HAD TO ASK FOR SOME FORGIVENESS ON THOSE PAYMENTS. SO WHEN COUNCILLOR MANN IS SAYING, GIVE ME SOMETHING, GIVE ME SOME GOOD FAITH, WE'VE SEEN NOTHING FOR YEARS, INCLUDING NO SIGNED DOCUMENTATION. WE'VE REQUESTED THE BUSINESS PLANS. WE'VE REQUESTED THE FINANCIALS. I'M NOT WILLING TO GIVE ANYTHING BEYOND THAT PLATINUM SPONSORSHIP WHEN THERE'S STUFF OUTSTANDING, SO COUNCILLOR PEARCE SAYS THAT THEY DID THE WORK, IMPROVING THE LOCKERS AND [02:45:01] SO FORTH. WELL, THERE WAS SOME STAFF TIME THAT WAS PUT INTO SOME OF THAT. BUT THE REQUEST IN TONIGHT IS ASKING FOR REWORK OF STUFF TO BE DONE IN THE LOCKERS IF THERE'S STUFF TO BE DONE. IT IS UP TO STAFF TO WORK, BUT THEY HAVE A LIMIT OF TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND THAT'S ALL THAT I'M CONCERNED WITH. I WANT TO STOP AT THAT AND MOVE FORWARD AND. IF STAFF WANTS TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING FURTHER, WHERE THERE IS TIME INVOLVED IN OTHER THINGS INVOLVED, THEY CAN DO THAT, BUT IT'S GOT TO BE WITHIN THAT TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. MR. GAGNON. JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE AMENDMENT PASSES OR WHETHER IT'S FRIENDLY OR NOT, WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO TIDY UP OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH PAPER TRAIL AND IT WILL COME BACK. SO IF WE GET OVERARCHING AGREEMENT THAT TEN THOUSAND IS A HARD STOP, FINE, WE'LL WORK WITH THAT AND WE'LL COME BACK, WE NEED AN ICE USER AGREEMENT TO CLARIFY WHAT ICE THEY'RE PAYING PRACTICES AND ALL THAT. THAT WAS IN AN OLD AGREEMENT THAT'S LONG EXPIRED. WE STILL NEED TO DEAL WITH THE DEBT. THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS, AS COUNCILLOR MANN INDICATED, BY THE END OF 2022, WE'RE CARRYING IT ON OUR AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT IN ONE WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. SO WE WILL WORK WITH THE BOARD AND SAY, HERE'S YOUR TEN THOUSAND YEAR FULL STOP LIMIT. NOW WE NEED TO SORT OUT WHAT THIS AGREEMENT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. AND THE OTHER PIECE THERE, THE WHAT EXACTLY THAT SPONSORSHIP COVERS AND WHAT IT DOESN'T. AND THERE WILL BE, I'M QUITE SURE, MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL, NO COST OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER AND WORK WITH THE TEAM IN THE ARENA, IN THE COMMUNITY. WE WILL DO THAT. I DON'T FEEL COMPELLED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY WE THINK WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING [INAUDIBLE], THERE WILL BE THINGS THAT DO REQUIRE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL. BUT WE WANT TO TIDY UP THAT RELATIONSHIP. ONCE WE GET THE DIRECTION TONIGHT, WE'LL COME BACK WITH A PACKAGE, ONE MORE DEBATE, PASS THE AGREEMENT AND WE WON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THAT'S MY SINCERE HOPE. COUNCILLOR CYR, YOU WERE IN THE LINEUP HERE. YES, THE WHOLE POINT, I GUESS, OF MY SPIEL EARLIER IS TO FORCE ACCOUNTABILITY. THIS COUNCIL, THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR BASICALLY THIS INFORMATION FROM THIS BOARD FOR YEARS, WELL INTO EVEN THE LAST COUNCIL. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S FINE IN ALL TO KEEP GIVING MONEY TO AN ORGANIZATION. BUT YOU'RE ASKING FOR TAXPAYER MONEY. IF YOU WANT TAXPAYER MONEY, THEN YOU HAVE TO SHOW US THAT YOU'RE DOING DUE DILIGENCE WITH IT AND THAT IT'S BEING SPENT. WELL, THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING. SO, YES, I MEAN, THE BOARD IS ITS OWN LEGAL ENTITY. BUT IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR TAXPAYER DOLLARS, THEN IT HAS TO BE JUSTIFIED. AND IF YOU CAN'T JUSTIFY IT, THEN HOW CAN WE LEGALLY AND CONSCIOUSLY ALLOW IT? THAT'S THE POINT OF MY ARGUMENT. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. I AGREE WITH WHAT MR. GAGNON HAS SAID. YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION IN FRONT OF YOU. THERE'S BEEN AN AMENDMENT MADE THAT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CALL FOR THE VOTE. OK. CALL FOR THE VOTE, SO WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT ON THE TABLE, SO IT'LL BE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT PRIOR TO THE OVERALL AND I'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR CYR. IF I MAY, YOUR WORSHIP, I'M SORRY, BUT CAN WE JUST GET CLARIFICATION OF THE WORDING OF WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON HERE? IT'S BEEN A LONG CONVERSATION. MS. BRAY, CAN YOU READ US THE AMENDMENT. YES, LET COUNCILLOR SUPPORT THE ELLIOT LAKE JUNIOR HOCKEY, NOT FOR PROFIT CORPORATION AS A PLATINUM SPONSOR AT AN UPSET LIMIT OF TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR OVER FIVE YEARS, AND THAT AN AGREEMENT AND APPROPRIATE BYLAW BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO A FUTURE MEETING IN COUNCIL . COUNCILLOR CYR, IN FAVOR AS AMENDED. COUNCILLOR TURNER, IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PEARCE, IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PATRIE, IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR MANN, IN FAVOR. AND I'M IN FAVOR SO THAT AMENDMENT IS CARRIED BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION AS AMENDED ROLL CALL, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR MANN IN FAVOR COUNCILLOR PATRIE. IT'S SAME THING, I JUST I'M SORRY, BUT I JUST NEED CLARIFICATION. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT, THE EXACT SAME THING. BUT OUR PROCEDURAL BYLAW SAYS WE HAVE TO VOTE ON AMENDMENT SEPARATELY FROM THE MOTION. SO WE'RE TOLD THE AMENDED MOTION IS EXACTLY THE AMENDMENT. AND I'M IN FAVOR. [02:50:03] COUNCILLOR PEARCE. IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR TURNER IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR CYR IN FAVOR, AND I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED. SORRY WE DIDN'T GET TO HAVE LEN SPEAK TO THE BUSINESS PLAN, BUT I HOPE TO SEE THAT IN THE FUTURE FOR SURE. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR SITTING IN THE WAITING ROOM FOR US. NINE UNFINISHED BUSINESS COMMUNITY REC HUB UPDATE STANDING ITEM, I'LL GIVE YOU [9. UNFINISHED BUSINESS] UPDATE ON THIS MR. DANIEL OFFICIAL RECREATION HUB COMMITTEE MEETING WILL BE HELD THURSDAY, APRIL 29TH AT 11:00 A.M. SO MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE COUNCIL SHOULD RECEIVE INVITES AND HOPEFULLY WITH SOME OF THE NEW FUNDING MODELS AND INFORMATION WE'VE RECEIVED IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME DECENT RECOMMENDATIONS TO COME UP TO THE COUNCIL. ARTS AND CULTURE, CULTURE HUB UPDATE. NINE POINT TWO STANDING ITEM, PRETTY SURE WE JUST TOOK CARE OF THE NEXT STEPS WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE HEADING UP THAT ONE. NINE POINT THREE RESIDENTIAL WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS STANDING ITEM. WE ALSO DEALT WITH THAT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION EARLIER WITH SIX POINT FOUR. ESTEN LAKE AND SOME OF THE OTHER LAKES. SO THAT'S THERE NINE POINT FOUR COVID-19 UPDATE STANDING ITEM MR. DANIEL, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. WELL, BASICALLY, AFTER PREMIER FORD CHANGED HIS MIND ON PLAYGROUND'S, AFTER THAT FIRST WEEKEND, THINGS WERE A LITTLE BIT DICEY. BUT WE REOPENED OUR PLAYGROUNDS THAT MONDAY MORNING. AND MOST OF OUR STAGING AREAS, LIKE THE MINERS MONUMENT PARKING AREA, SHERIFF CREEK, WE REMOVED PICNIC TABLES. PICNIC TABLES ARE STILL VIEWED AS A GATHERING SPACE, EVEN IF IT'S OUTDOORS NOT TO BE ENCOURAGED. SO WE REMOVED A PICNIC TABLE THAT WE COULD. SIMPSON ROAD WESTVIEW TRAILER PARK REMAINS CLOSED BY PROVINCIAL ORDER. BASICALLY, THE ORDER IS STILL IN PLACE TO A DEGREE. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE STAYING AT HOME. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AVOIDING RECREATION. WE CAN DO OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES FOR EXERCISE OF MENTAL HEALTH, BUT NOT CONGREGATING WITH ANYONE OUTSIDE OF OUR HOUSEHOLD AND BASICALLY NOT RECREATING SIMPLY ESSENTIAL SERVICES. THE BOAT LAUNCHES. MOST OF THE BOAT LAUNCHES ARE OPEN BECAUSE AS A GENERAL RULE, THERE'S NO PICNIC TABLES. YOU WANT YOUR BOAT YOU DEPART. EVEN RECREATIONAL FISHING IS TECHNICALLY NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPENING UNLESS IT'S FOR FEEDING YOUR FAMILY OR TO ACCESS A PROPERTY, SAY, A WATER ACCESS. SO WE DEEM THAT TO MEAN THAT MOST OF THE BOAT LAUNCHES CAN BE OPEN BECAUSE EVEN SOMEONE WITH A FORTY THOUSAND BASS BOAT ISN'T GOING TO SAY HE'S FEEDING HIS FAMILY AND HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO ARGUE WITH THAT. SO WHAT WE HAVE REMAINED CLOSED IS THE ELLIOT LAKE BOARDWALK, FISHING PIER AND MARINA [INAUDIBLE] TYPICALLY WE RECOMMEND THEY STAY. IT STAYS CLOSED AT LEAST DURING THE STAY AT HOME ORDER UNTIL WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY AND MORE RESEARCH. WE'RE WORRIED THAT THE FISHING PIER AND THE BOARDWALK WILL BE VERY POPULAR AND IS BASICALLY A RECREATIONAL AREA WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT UNLIKE EXERCISE. ART CAN GO ON A TRAILS ITS PARK AND HANG AROUND AND SIT AND STAND FOR SEVERAL HOURS. IT'S A LITTLE TOO MUCH LIKE RECREATION AND SOCIAL GATHERING. MY PERSONAL OPINION AND STAFFS. WE DISCUSS THAT AS A [INAUDIBLE]. OF COURSE, IT'S UP TO COUNCIL AT THE END OF THE DAY, BUT IT'S CURRENTLY CLOSED AND WE FEEL THAT IT SHOULD STAY THAT WAY, AT LEAST FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. WE REMAIN AS OPEN AS WE CAN FOR CURBSIDE SERVICE DELIVERY. WE ARE NOT LEAVING ANYONE IN THE LURCH, ANY RESIDENTS WHO NEED SERVICES. WE'RE STILL DOING WHAT WE CAN IN A CURBSIDE SCENARIO THROUGH CITY HALL. THE ONLY THING WE ARE NOT DOING IS HAVING ANY HYBRID MEETINGS ANYMORE. IT MUST BE ON ZOOM. WE WON'T BE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO COME IN, PEOPLE TO COME IN AND SIT DOWN IN CITY HALL AND HAVE SOME SORT OF HYBRID MEETING OR AN IN-PERSON MEETING. THAT'S IN A NUTSHELL, UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYONE FROM STAFF WANTS TO CHIME IN AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG [INAUDIBLE]. I HAVE A QUESTION FROM COUNCILLOR PATRIE AND THEN COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU, JUST ON THE BOAT LAUNCHING PIER. THE ROAD IS BARRICADED OFF. I AGREE. IF THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL WANTS TO KEEP THE PIER CLOSED AND I GET IT, IT'S KIND [02:55:01] OF HARD FOR PEOPLE TO SOCIAL DISTANCE WHEN THEY'RE GETTING ON AND OFF. THEY CAN DO IT. WILL THEY DO IT? I DON'T KNOW. I, I RESPECT THAT DECISION, BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT BOAT LAUNCH OPEN AND ALLOW THE TAXPAYERS TO BE ABLE TO IF THEY WANT TO GO AND FISH FOR SUSTENANCE ON THAT LAKE . EVERY OTHER BOAT LAUNCH WE HAVE IS OPEN AND THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT WE DON'T HAVE OPEN. SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE ACTUALLY OPEN THE BOAT LAUNCH ON ELLIOTT LAKE. AND IF THE WILL OF COUNCIL IS TO LEAVE THE PIER AND THE SLIPS CLOSED, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I JUST WANTED TO BRING A MESSAGE FROM THE FAMILY HEALTH TEAM IN NANCY EWAN'S, I DID SPEAK WITH HER TODAY AND SHE JUST WANTED THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT IF YOU'VE RECEIVED YOUR VACCINATION, AT SHOPPERS DRUG MART YOU DON'T NEED TO CALL THE FAMILY HEALTH TEAM AND LET THEM KNOW THEY'RE GETTING A LIST DAILY FROM THE FROM THE DRUGSTORE SO THAT THEY ARE CROSS MATCHING AND THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF THAT. SO [INAUDIBLE] THE FAMILY HEALTH TEAM WITH MORE PHONE CALLS THAN THEY CAN HANDLE THAT INFORMATION IS BEING CROSS-REFERENCED. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE COVID COUNCILLOR MANN? THANK YOUR WORSHIP TO COUNCILLOR PATRIE POINT ABOUT THE BOAT LAUNCH, I WOULD HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE BOAT LAUNCH ITSELF BEING REOPENED, BUT THE SLIPS AND THE BOARDWALK WOULD REMAIN CLOSED THROUGH THIS ORDER. AGAIN, IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO CLOSE THE OTHER BOAT LAUNCHES, WHY WOULD WE CLOSE THIS PARTICULAR ONE? SO I WOULD BE I WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT, BUT NOT THE SLIPS. COUNCILLOR TURNER. I WANT TO SUPPORT COUNCILLOR MANN AND PATRIE ON THAT ONE. JUST MAKES SENSE TO HAVE IT OPEN. THE PEOPLE IN A BOAT OUT IN THE LAKE IS. PRETTY SAFE. OK. MR. GAGNON, ONE PERSON MAYBE. JUST TO CLARIFY [INAUDIBLE] A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO BARRICADE THE PIER AND THE BOARDWALK IN ORDER TO AND THEN OPENED THE FLOW. SO WE'LL HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF WORK WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS TO TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT. AND THAT'S JUST SINCE I HAVE THE FLOOR, WE DO HAVE A NUISANCE BYLAW. SO I WILL REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT JUMPING OVER A FENCE, MOVING A BARRICADE IS A PUNISHABLE OFFENSE. AND YOU COULD BE TICKETED AND FINED UNDER OUR BRAND NEW NUISANCE BY LAW. NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COVID, EVEN IF YOU'RE JUMPING OVER A FENCE THAT SAYS DO NOT ENTER OR WHATNOT. THEN THAT'S A VIOLATION OF THE NUISANCE BY LAW AND YOU COULD BE FINED. SO LET'S LISTEN TO. OK, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP, I AM FINE WITH OPENING THE BOAT LAUNCH ONLY AT THAT SITE, I THINK THAT'S FINE. I DID SEE THAT THERE WAS A COUPLE OF BOATS THERE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS ALREADY SQUATTING. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GONE OR NOT. BUT I DID WANT TO ASK MS. BRAY IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU, MR. GAGNON IF THE BYLAWS HAVE HAD ANY MAJOR CONCERNS OR ISSUES, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THEY FEEL BUT WE NEED TO BE DOING. CERTAINLY DON'T NEED MY PERMISSION TO ASK MS. BRAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE THEY'VE BEEN DOING PATROLS ON THE WEEKEND AND MONITORING THE HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS AND THEY'VE JUST BEEN CAUTIONING WHEN REQUIRED, BUT NOTHING MAJOR TO REPORT BACK. IS THAT IT FOR OUR COVID UPDATE? OK, THERE HAS BEEN A FEW REQUESTS COMING FORWARD ASKING IF WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER VIRTUAL TOWN HALL IN THE NEAR FUTURE IF WE'RE ABLE TO WRANGLE THE TROOPS FOR THAT ONE. SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO. ALSO, NINE POINT FIVE MEMO FROM MAYOR MARCHISELLA APPOINTMENT TO THE STANDING COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION FOR UPDATED STANDING COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP INCLUDES ADDING COUNCILLOR FINAMORE TO EDC AS WELL AS COUNCILLOR PEARCE TO F&A. AND I LOOK FOR A MOVER TO THAT MOTION. MOVED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER SECOND. SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE. AGAIN, THATS ADDING COUNCILLOR FINAMORE TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND COUNCILLOR PEARCE TO FINANCE AND ADMIN. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. MOVE TO REQUEST AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD BE CHANGED, THAT THE FINANCE ADMIN MEMBERSHIP BECOME MYSELF IN PLACE OF COUNCILLOR PEARCE, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE BECOMES MYSELF AS CHAIR COUNCILLOR TURNER AND COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT COUNCILLOR PATRIE THAT WOULD BE A RECONSIDERATION OF MOTION [03:00:01] THAT WAS TURNED DOWN LAST CALENDAR, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IT WOULDN'T BE IT IS A DIFFERENT IT IS A DIFFERENT SET UP AS WHAT WAS ON THE PREVIOUS ONE. MS. BRAY, I'M GUNNA HAVE TO ASK YOU FOR FOR ASSISTANCE ON THIS, AS FAR AS I'M LOOKING AT ITS RECONSIDERATION OTHER THAN. COUNCILLOR PATRIE IS ADDING THAT HE'D BE THE CHAIR OF A COMMITTEE WHERE THERE'S ALREADY AN APPOINTED CHAIR. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE WAS NOT AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON YOUR LAST REPORT. THAT WAS PEARCE AND TURNER. ALL RIGHT, I'LL LOOK FOR A SECONDER FOR YOUR AMENDMENT, THOUGH, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S IN ORDER. COUNCILLOR MANN, A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION, YOUR WORSHIP. MISS BRAY, I JUST I MISSED THE NAME. I APOLOGIZE. SO PUTTING COUNCILLOR PATRIE ON F&A. INSTEAD OF COUNCILLOR PEARCE AND COUNCILLOR PATRIE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. INSTEAD OF COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, BUT AS CHAIR. THAT'S NOT WHAT THE AMENDMENT WAS REQUESTED YOUR WORSHIP IT WAS THAT I AM AS CHAIR AND MEMBERS BECOME COUNCILLOR TURNER AND COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. SO YOU ARE REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO COMPLETELY SHUFFLE THE. STANDING COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP. NOT COMPLETELY RESHUFFLE YOUR WORSHIP, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE SITTING ON SOME BOARDS. YOU GOT ME STUNNED HERE. I'M NOT REALLY SURE ABOUT REMOVAL OF COUNCILLOR PEARCE AS THERE'S NO REASON TO MOVE REMOVE COUNCILLOR PEARCE FROM HIS SEATED POSITION. THERE REALLY NEEDS TO BE A GOOD REASON TO REMOVE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FROM THEIR POSITIONS HERE. I'M NOT SURE HOW COUNCIL WILL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS. I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A ROLL-CALL VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT IMMEDIATELY. COUNCILLOR MANN. YEAH, I JUST NEED TO SEE CLARIFICATION AS WELL, CLEARLY ON OUR REPORT, WE'VE GOT TWO NAMES THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED ESSENTIALLY IN RED, WHICH WOULD BE THE NEW MEMBERS TO CONSTITUTE THE TWO COMMITTEES THAT ARE MISSING, WHY WOULD COUNCILLOR PATRIE BE LOOKING TO REMOVE OTHER MEMBERS THAT ARE CURRENTLY STANDING ON THOSE COMMITTEES, THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE? BECAUSE I WOULD MAKE IT NOT A RECONSIDERATION AS THAT'S A NEW RECOMMENDATION. I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE IMMEDIATELY. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. OPPOSED. COUNCILLOR TURNER, OPPOSED COUNCILLOR MANN OPPOSED COUNCILLOR PEARCE OPPOSED. COUNCILLOR CYR OPPOSED. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. IN FAVOR, I'M OPPOSED, THAT'S DEFEATED ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION HERE AND I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS IMMEDIATELY, COUNCILLOR CYR. IN FAVOR COUNCILLOR TURNER FAVOR COUNCILLOR PEARCE FAVOR. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE [INAUDIBLE] COUNCILLOR MANN IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR PATRIE DISGUSTINGLY OPPOSED. I'M IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU. 10 PETITIONS THERE ARE NONE. 11 CORRESPONDENTS THERE ARE NONE. 12 NOTICE OF MOTION ON 13 COUNCILS, REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR THIS [13. COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS] EVENING. I THINK I HAVE THREE PROCLAMATIONS FOR US THIS EVENING. FIRST PROCLAMATION, EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS WEEK 2021, WHEREAS ELLIOT LAKE DOES RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IN ONTARIO, WHEREAS THE GOAL OF EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS WEEK IS TO RAISE COMMUNITY AWARENESS AND THE NEED TO PREPARE FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF EMERGENCY, AND WHEREAS THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US. AND WE MUST PREPARE NOW AND LEARN HOW TO SECURE A STRONG AND HEALTHY TOMORROW. NOW THEREFORE, I DAN MARCHISELLA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, DO [03:05:02] HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF MAY 5TH TO 11TH 2021 TO BE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS WEEK IN ELLIOT LAKE AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO BE EMERGENCY READY AND STAY CONNECTED. SO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS IN PAST YEARS REQUESTED THAT EVERYONE DOES KEEP A 72 HOUR KIT AT HOME BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THE POWER IS GOING TO GO OUT AND GROCERY STORES NOT OPEN, I'M SURE YOU HAVE SUPPLIES WITH YOU. AND SECOND PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS COMMUNITY LIVING ALGOMA HAS PROVIDED SUPPORT AND SERVICE TO PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES AND THEIR FAMILIES IN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AND SURROUNDING DISTRICTS SINCE 1954 AND PROVIDE SERVICE TO 333 ADULTS AND 388 CHILDREN. AND WHEREAS COMMUNITY LIVING ALGOMA GOAL IS THAT PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES HAVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE FULLY IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH DIGNITY, INDEPENDENCE AND ACCEPTANCE. WHEREAS COMMUNITY LIVING ALGOMA WORKS WITH ELLIOT LAKE VOLUNTEERS, OTHER STAKEHOLDER GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS TO PROMOTE CITIZENSHIP FOR PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES SO THEY HAVE RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND THE OPPORTUNITY THAT COME WITH BELONGING, PARTICIPATING AND CONTRIBUTING AS A VALUED MEMBER IN SOCIETY. AND WHEREAS COMMUNITY LIVING ALGOMA AWARENESS MONTH IS A PROVINCE WIDE INITIATIVE CREATED TO CELEBRATE THE VALUES OF COMMUNITY LIVING, WHICH ARE INCLUSION, EQUALITY AND RESPECT. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COUNCILLOR OF THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY 2021 AS COMMUNITY LIVING ALGOMA AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE. THAT'S THOSE TWO THAT WE'RE.. I HAVE WORDING HERE, SO THIS IS FROM NORTH SHORE COMMUNITY SUPPORT SERVICES. THIS YEAR FOR MENTAL HEALTH WEEK, WE'RE LOOKING AT A UNDERSTANDING OF OUR EMOTIONS, THEIR INITIATIVE IS CALLED LET'S GET REAL, NAME IT, DON'T NUMB IT. SO IF THEY RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU RESPOND, I'M FINE, I'M OK. WHEN SOMEONE ASKS, HOW ARE YOU DOING? WE ALL HAVE OUR REASONS AS TO WHY RESPOND THIS WAY. BUT THE TRUTH IS GOOD. MENTAL HEALTH ISN'T ABOUT BEING HAPPY ALL THE TIME. AFTER ALL, WE'RE HUMAN. WE ALSO FEEL ANGER, SADNESS, ANXIOUS AND SO MUCH MORE. AND I THINK WHEN YOU RESPOND THAT WAY, BUT IN REALITY, YOU'RE OPPOSITE TO SAYING YOU'RE FINE, REALLY MAKE YOU FEEL FINE OR BETTER. DOES IT MAKE THAT EMOTION YOU ARE FEELING LESS LESSEN OR GO AWAY? CHANCES ARE IT DOESN'T. THIS YEAR'S MENTAL HEALTH WEEK IS ABOUT GETTING REAL, ABOUT WHAT WE ARE FEELING AND PUTTING A NAME TO IT RATHER THAN NUMBING IT. KEEP OUR NEGATIVE EMOTIONS, ANGER, SADNESS, ET CETERA INSIDE CAN MAKE IT WORSE FOR US AND CAUSE A NEGATIVE REACTION, LIKE YELLING AT SOMEONE BY NAMING WHAT WE ARE FEELING. WE'RE RELEASING THE PRESSURE BUILD UP AND MAY BE ABLE TO PREVENT AN EXPLOSION. EMOTIONAL LITERACY IS BEING ABLE TO RECOGNIZE WHAT WE FEEL, LABEL THEM AND HOW WE EXPRESS THEM. WHEN WE CAN DO THIS, WE CAN REGULATE OUR EMOTIONS RATHER THAN SAYING, I'M FINE, I'M OK. WE NEED TO START SAYING I'M SAD, I'M ANGRY AND WORK ON CONSTRUCTIVE WAYS TO EXPRESS AND COPE. BY DOING THIS, WE CAN IMPROVE NOT ONLY OUR MENTAL HEALTH, BUT OUR PHYSICAL HEALTH TOO. WRITING DOWN HOW WE ARE FEELING AND TALKING TO FRIENDS, FAMILY AND OUR PROFESSIONALS CAN HELP. SINCE COVID-19 PANDEMIC HIT MARCH 2020 MORE PEOPLE HAVE REPORTED HAVING STRESS AND ANXIETY, WITH THIRTY EIGHT PERCENT OF CANADIANS SAYING THEIR MENTAL HEALTH HAS DETERIORATED IN THE PAST YEAR, SIX PERCENT OF CANADIANS HAVE REPORTED SUICIDAL THOUGHTS, WITH TWO PERCENT OF CANADIANS TRYING SELF-HARM BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC. IT'S TIME WE BAND TOGETHER AND ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO SAY HOW WE'RE FEELING TO SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER AND BRIDGE THE GAP TO OPEN AND SAFE CONVERSATION AND COMMUNITY RESOURCES. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT I MAYOR DAN MARCHISELLA IN CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, HEREBY PROCLAIM. MONDAY, MAY 3RD TO SUNDAY, MAY 9TH, AS MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS WEEK HERE IN ELLIOT LAKE. YOU WROTE THAT ALL DOWN, RIGHT, MS. BRAY. ALL RIGHT. FAR AS ADDITIONAL PIECES, JUST AN UPDATE ON THE DAY OF MOURNING, AGAIN, DUE TO COVID AND LOCKDOWN, THERE WILL NOT BE A CEREMONY ON THE TWENTY EIGHTH, I BELIEVE MYSELF AND COUNCILLOR PEARCE WILL BE LAYING A WREATH AND THE NEW DATE FOR THE CEREMONY AND UNVEILING OF THE THIRD CHAPTER OF THE MINERS MONUMENT. THE DATE IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED, BUT WILL MOST LIKELY BE SOMETIME EARLY IN JUNE, AGAIN, DEPENDING ON WHETHER THE LOCKDOWN IS EXTENDED. ONCE AGAIN, I'D ASK BEFORE I GET THE BIG TICKET ITEMS. [03:10:03] DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMUNITY INFORMATION? COUNCILLOR PEARCE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I'M GOING TO ADMIT TO A MASSIVE BRAIN CRAMP I SHOULD HAVE I DID DECLARE TO THE CLERK IN WRITING ON SEVEN POINT TWO. UM, AND, CONCERNING THE CHANGE IN TAX REGULATIONS FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] PROPERTY, AND I WOULD ALSO DECLARE ON FIFTEEN POINT TWO, WHICH IS THE BYLAW THAT AUTHORIZES THAT. MY APOLOGIES TO THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PEARCE COUNCILLOR TURNER. YES, I JUST WANTED TO APOLOGIZE TO THE HOCKEY TEAM. THEIR NAME IS ABSOLUTELY THE ELLIOT LAKE RED WINGS. I WAS READING THEIR LOGO AND ALLOWED MYSELF TO BE MISLED. SO THANK YOU. I'LL TELL YOU THE TRUTH, WHEN I WAS A BIG HOCKEY FAN AS A YOUNGER CHILD. DETROIT RED WINGS WERE MY TEAM. AND SECOND TO THAT WAS THE WINTER SPITFIRE'S. SO HAPPY SEEING THAT LOGO. THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, YOU ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING TO CHEER US UP. WHAT'S GOING ON? OTHER THAN MUTED, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT, EXCEPT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE THAT HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES THROUGH OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH INJURIES AND DISEASES AND THAT WE REMEMBER HOW LUCKY WE ARE WHEN WE WORK IN SUCH SAFE ENVIRONMENTS AND THAT THE CITY PROVIDES A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO WORK. I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH ELSE OF ANY [INAUDIBLE] YOU EXCEPT TO GET OUTSIDE THERE'S SNOW ON THE ROOFS. I'M JUST VERY GRATEFUL. THIS IS A ZOOM MEETING. I DON'T HAVE TO GET GET IN MY COLD CAR AND GO HOME. SORRY TO SAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. ANY OTHER HIGHLIGHTS FOR THE COMMUNITY ANNOUNCEMENTS? OK, SEEING NONE I'LL HIT THOSE BIG TICKET ITEMS? NOT VERY MANY ON THIS ONE HERE. HYDRO ONE NETWORKS FOR APRIL THIS BILL IS FIFTY NINE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED RECEIVER GENERAL, SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED [INAUDIBLE] CREDIT CARD SERVICE, TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED MUNICIPAL PROPERTY ASSESSMENT, QUARTERLY BILLING, THIRTY FOUR THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED NORTHERN METERING SERVICES. AIRPORT BULK PLANT INJECTOR TWENTY ONE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED ALMOST FORTY FOUR THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED. TELIC ENGINEERING ASSESSMENT ANALYSIS. HEALTH AND WELLNESS FORTY FOUR THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS. THAT'S OUR BIG TICKET ITEMS AND WITH THAT WE WILL CARRY ON. NO ADDENDUM, INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF BYLAWS, FIFTEEN POINT ONE BYLAW, [15. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF BY-LAWS] TWENTY ONE DASH, THIRTY THREE, BEING A BYLAW TO LEVY AND COLLECT PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE YEAR. 2021 CAN I HAVE A MOVER. PLEASE MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU. FIFTEEN POINT TWO. BYLAW TWENTY ONE DASH THIRTY FOUR BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE THE ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF A COMPACT UTILITY TRAILER. CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? COUNCILLOR FINAMORE SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? COUNCILLOR MANN, I BELIEVE YOU SAID TRAILER YOUR WORSHIP AND NOT TRACTOR THAT WHAT IT SAYS IN THE BYLAW. THERE'S A TRACTOR, YOU'RE CORRECT, THOUGH, HUH? NOT BUYING A TRAILER, IT'S A TRACTOR. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN. OK, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE ON THAT. ALL IN FAVOR. LET'S HEAR FROM [INAUDIBLE] ANY OPPOSED? NONE, THAT'S CARRIED FIFTEEN POINT THREE BY LAW, TWENTY ONE DASH THIRTY FIVE BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE THE ENTERING INTO A CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT WITH RESPECT TO A VULNERABLE PERSONS REGISTRY. CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? MOVE BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE A SECOND BY COUNCILLOR MANN. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? SEEING NONE AGAIN, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE THAT'S CARRIED. FIFTEEN POINT FOUR BY LAW, TWENTY ONE DASH, THIRTY SIX BEING A BYLAW TO DESIGNATE A PORTION OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 31 NOVA SCOTIA WALK, ELLIOT LAKE ONTARIO MUNICIPAL CAPITAL FACILITY FROM ALL TAXES LEVIED FROM MUNICIPAL AND SCHOOL PURPOSES. [03:15:05] MOVER, PLEASE. MOVED BY COUNCILLOR CYR, SECOND, BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE ONCE AGAIN, ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSED? NONE THAT'S CARRIED. [16. PUBLIC QUESTION PERIOD] 16 PUBLIC QUESTION PERIOD. THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS HERE. AND WE'LL TRY TO BREAK DOWN A LITTLE BIT. I BELIEVE QUITE A FEW OF THEM WERE ANSWERED EARLIER. SO. FIRST QUESTION COMES FROM AND AGAIN FOR TIME, I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE WHOLE LETTER FROM NICOLE [INAUDIBLE], ESSENTIALLY THE QUESTION IS WHY WOULD THE CITY FORGIVE A DEBT OR SUPPORT THE HOCKEY TEAM INSTEAD OF SUPPORTING BUSINESSES THROUGH COVID? ANSWER THAT COUNCIL DID ACTUALLY HAVE A SUPPORT FUND, COVID RELIEF FUND TO HELP BUSINESSES GET RESTARTED AFTER THE FIRST IMPACT. THE HOCKEY TEAM IS A NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION AND REQUIRES ASSISTANCE IN SPONSORSHIPS IN THAT AREA. AS YOU SAW TONIGHT, IT'S NOT DEBT FORGIVENESS, BUT CONTINUING ON WITH OUR ONGOING SPONSORSHIP. MY NEXT QUESTION IS FROM DON [INAUDIBLE] AGAIN, LOOKING AT OVERVIEW PROVIDED FOR THE ELLIOT LAKE RED WINGS, THE QUESTION, WELL, MEMO PUTS FORWARD NOTION THAT THE BOARD IS NOT ASKING CITY FOR CASH IN READING. WHAT THEY DO ASK WILL INDEED COST TAXPAYERS A FAIR CHUNK OF CHANGE CITY TO FORGIVE OUTSTANDING 10 50K LOAN NEGOTIATED BY THE BOARD. I'M LOOKING FOR THE QUESTION HERE. ACCEPTING THE BOARD'S CURRENT PROPOSAL IN TOTAL AN IMMEDIATE THE QUESTION IS. OF A 10K CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS ICE TIME IS NOT, IN FACT, CASH OR LACK THEREOF, A CASH TRANSACTION, AGAIN, IT WOULD COST THE TAXPAYER BECAUSE OF LOST REVENUE, NOT TO MENTION THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE ICE. IS THE ARENA READY TO GO? THE MEMO SUGGESTS OTHERWISE. THE CITY TAXPAYERS WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MUCH NEEDED UPGRADES, DRESSING ROOMS, ACCESSIBILITY OFF THE TOP YOUR WORSHIP COUNCILLOR. IS THIS WHERE WE BELONG? HOW MUCH MONEY HAS A RELATIONSHIP COST TAXPAYERS? HOW MUCH WILL IT COST TAXPAYERS? HOW CAN WE HELP THE RED WINGS WITHOUT PROVIDING CASH FOR UNPROVEN UNPROVIDED SOUND BUSINESS PLAN? AND AGAIN, MR. NICHOLS, I BELIEVE YOU'RE WATCHING THIS EVENING. YOU HAD MOST OF THESE QUESTIONS, IF NOT ALL OF THEM ANSWERED DURING OUR DEBATE ON. THAT PORTION, WHICH WAS EIGHT POINT ONE, AND I CAN'T REALLY ANSWER MORE THAN THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD THERE. WE ALSO HAVE A QUESTION FROM SHAWN SPENCER. HOCKEY TEAM ALSO. EXCUSE ME YOUR WORSHIP, YEAH, MOST OF MR. SPENCER'S QUESTIONS ARE RELATED TO THE BOARD, NOT THE COUNCIL. YES, AND THAT'S MOST LIKELY TO BE MY ANSWER. I'M NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH THE OVERALL BLURB BECAUSE WE DON'T NORMALLY ALLOW THAT DURING QUESTION PERIOD, WE GOES DIRECTLY TO THE QUESTIONS. SO AS TO ABOUT LOCAL RESIDENTS SUBMITTING A PROPOSAL. AGAIN, THAT IS A BOARD PIECE AND NOT REALLY. WE DON'T, AS A COUNCIL HAVE YOUR ANSWERS. YOU'D HAVE TO SEND THE QUESTION TO THE BOARD. A QUESTION ABOUT THE BOARD PAYING BACK THE CITY AGAIN, THIS WAS ANSWERED DURING OUR DELIBERATION. NEXT QUESTION, IS THE BOARD WILLING TO SIGN AN AGREEMENT THAT STATES THEY WILL NOT LEAVE ELLIOTT LAKE FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS? THAT IS ACTUALLY A FAIRLY DECENT QUESTION, AND I'M SURE WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT WHEN BYLAW COMES BACK FOR SIGNATURE BEING ADMINISTRATES OF PEACE, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO SEE HOCKEY LEAVE ELLIOT LAKE. HOCKEY GAME SET A DATE FOR JUNE 10TH, COVID, DEPENDING. MY QUESTION IS. THE THREE DAY HOCKEY CAMP, WHAT WOULD IT COST TO PUT THE ICE IN? AGAIN, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A QUESTION FOR FOR MR. HALLOCH AND ADMIN MR. GAGNON. ANY INKLING TO. [03:20:04] THAT A MAJOR OVERHAUL. I WOULDN'T WANT TO SPECULATE, BUT I DO KNOW IT WILL BE PARTIALLY RELATED TO THE WEATHER IF WE'RE HAVING A HOT, STEAMY HEAT WAVE IN JUNE. THAT'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER AND BE MORE EXPENSIVE TO PUT ICE IN. BUT THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WILL HAVE TO BE BACK IN FRONT OF COUNCIL TO DETERMINE WHETHER WE WANT TO PUT ICE IN JUNE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE ICE THERE NOW AND WE DON'T TYPICALLY HAVE ICE IN JUNE. HOWEVER, THERE MAY BE OTHER FACTORS THAT COUNCIL MAY WANT TO CONSIDER WHETHER WE PUT ICE IN JUNE OR THE SKILLS CAMP MAYBE WE OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMUNITY AS A POST COVID CELEBRATION. BUT THAT'S ASSUMING COVID IS BEHIND US BY JUNE, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS VERY LIKELY. BUT WE ARE GETTING VACCINATED. SO HARD TO SAY WE DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER THIS EVENING BECAUSE THAT WASN'T PARTICULARLY WELL COMMUNICATED IN THE PRESENTATION. SO WE'LL HAVE TO REVISIT THAT IN NEAR FUTURE WITH COUNCIL. OK. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IF THAT'S GOING TO TRANSPIRE, IT'S GOING TO COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL. IT'S NOT GOING TO JUST BE A STAFF DECISION. YES, JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO START PUTTING IN ICE WORRY IF WE DO. WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE TAKEN THAT AUTHORITY. SO WE WILL DEFINITELY GET THE AUTHORITY TO PUT IT IN ICE IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO. I AM GOING TO GIVE A REMINDER TO THOSE PUTTING IN PUBLIC QUESTIONS. I DO ENJOY GETTING THE PUBLIC QUESTION PERIOD, BUT READING SOME OF THESE. IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO SEND A WHOLE DETAILED LETTER THAT IS A RANT WITH SWEARING IN IT, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL AND MYSELF THAT YOU SEND TO OUR CLERK, PLEASE BE PROFESSIONAL AND PROVIDE ME WITH JUST THE QUESTION. THAT YOU HAVE AND THE ITEM NUMBER I'M NOT VERY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT I'M SEEING HERE, [INAUDIBLE], WHILE I TOGETHER WITH THE ELLIOT LAKE HOCKEY FANS, WELCOME AND LOOK FORWARD TO A SUCCESSFUL NEW SEASON. I'M SURPRISED, DISAPPOINTED THAT THE BOARD DID NOT CONSIDER REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY REGARDING THE NAME CHANGE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE REASON OR LOGIC COMMUNITY AS A SHAREHOLDER THAT WE WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING TO FINANCE THE OPERATIONS. AGAIN, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BOARD DECISION, WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO COME OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, POSSIBLY. BUT AGAIN, A BOARD DECISION. ELLIOT LAKE MINOR HOCKEY ASSOCIATION, A FEW QUESTIONS. NOW, ONE, THE CITY HAD TO START THE ICE MAKING PROCESS ONCE THE NEW CHILLERS INSTALLED IN FEBRUARY-MARCH TO MAKE SURE THE NEW CHILLER PLANT WAS WORKING REFUSED TO PUT IN FULL ICE WHEN MINOR HOCKEY IS GETTING [INAUDIBLE] ASKING PRICE MINOR HOCKEY PLAYERS. PARENTS WERE TRAVELING OUT OF THE COMMUNITY HEALTH DISTRICT TO RUN PRACTICES. I SEE THE NEW TEAM IS ADVERTISING A HOCKEY CAMP IN JUNE AND THE ARENA IS CLOSED. THE CITY IS PREPARED TO PUT ICE IN FOR MID-JUNE. WHAT ARE THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AND WILL THE ICE STAND FOR THE SUMMER NEW SEASON IN THE FALL? SO THAT QUESTION WAS ALSO JUST ANSWERED BY MR. GAGNON. WE ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER WE'RE IN A COVID TIME. SO WHEN LOCKDOWNS HAPPEN, THINGS ARE CLOSED. THAT'S A PROVINCIAL ORDERS. NOT THE CITY. SO. TO THE BOARD, NEW TEAM IS REQUESTING 20K PER YEAR. THIS QUESTION WAS ANSWERED. BOARD NEW TEAM IS REQUESTING DRESSING ROOMS BE REVAMPED AGAIN, THIS QUESTION WAS ANSWERED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE NEW MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT THAT STATES THE TEAM WILL STAY IN THE COMMUNITY? AND AGAIN, WE'VE JUST ADDRESSED THIS QUESTION. SO THAT QUESTION IS COMING UP QUITE OFTEN ENSURING THAT THE TEAM IS GOING TO STAY AROUND. TRACY [INAUDIBLE], AGAIN, QUESTIONS ABOUT. READING ABOUT THE HOCKEY TEAM ON PROBABLY ELLIOT LAKE TODAY. ONE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHERE THE SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR FIGURE COMES FROM AS A SPIN OFF FROM THE TEAM? DOES THIS MEAN ALL THE MERCHANDISE WILL BE SOURCED LOCALLY? COUNCILLOR PEARCE? I BELIEVE USUALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE ASIDE, OVERALL ANALYSIS OF BUYING GAS, BUYING FOOD. IT GOES BEYOND THAT. THERE'S SOME COMMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE TEAM IS GOING TO BUY LOCALLY. [INAUDIBLE] WAS UPSET BECAUSE THE LOGO WASN'T DESIGNED LOCALLY. THE LOGO WAS DESIGNED BY THE BROTHER OF THE MANAGEMENT TEAM OR OWNER OF THE. COST OF THE. JACKETS THAT WE'RE WE HAVE YOU SEEN AROUND TOWN WAS ALL OF 100 DOLLARS. UH, THE NEW SIGN FOR THE TEAM IS BEING MADE LOCALLY. UH, WE INTEND TO BUY AN AWFUL LOT OF THINGS LOCALLY. WE CAN'T BUY THE JERSEYS LOCALLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T MAKE THEM HERE. [03:25:02] UH, AND, WE HAVEN'T BEEN CONTACTED BY ANYBODY HERE THAT WANTS TO MAKE THEM. SO WE GO FOR THAT. UH, BUT YES, WE WILL BE BUYING LOCALLY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR FIGURE COMES FROM HOCKEY CANADA. THEY HAVE AN ECONOMIC MODEL THAT THEY USE TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH ECONOMIC SPIN OFF COMES FROM HAVING A HOCKEY TEAM. MR. GAGNON, YOU HAVE A RESPONSE TO THAT ALSO, JUST TO SAY I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT NUMBER CAME FROM OUR OWN ECONOMETRIC MODEL, WHICH WE SHOULD PROBABLY USE, NO OFFENSE TO HOCKEY CANADA, BUT WE THE CITY BOUGHT THIS MODEL FOR JUST SUCH AN OCCASION. AND WE'RE USED TO COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES WITH THIS MODEL SO WE CAN TAKE THAT OFFLINE. BUT WE SHOULD PROBABLY PUT THAT INTO OUR OWN MODEL AND SEE WHAT IF YOU DO YOUR OWN MODEL, YOU'LL FIND IT'S ACTUALLY MORE IT'S A CONSERVATIVE ECONOMIC MATRIX THAT CAME UP WITH THIS NUMBER AND HOW MUCH MONEY WOULD BE SPENT BY FAMILIES COMING IN AND OUT OF THE COMMUNITY FOR HOCKEY, OK. WHY IS COUNCILLOR PEARCE STATE OF THE PAPER DID NOT NEED TO BE VETTED BY STAFF SUCH AS TREASURY TO SEE IF IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TAXPAYER, COUNCILLOR PEARCE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. THE BOARD IS ITS OWN ENTITY AND MAKES ITS OWN DECISIONS IN THAT ASPECT. ARLENE MARTIN QUESTIONS ALSO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HOCKEY TEAM. WHY DOES ELLIOT LAKE EVEN HAVE A JUNIOR HOCKEY CLUB? DOESN'T SEEM TO FIT WITH THE DEMOGRAPHICS IN THE COMMUNITY. MOST PLAYERS ARE NOT FROM HERE. THIS SEEMS LIKE A VANITY PROJECT TO ME. WHEN WE DO NOT EVEN HAVE FUNDING FOR A REC FACILITY ARTS CLUB. IT SEEMS TO BE UNNECESSARY, EXPENSIVE THAT WE WILL BE FACING A TAX INCREASE. AS FAR AS THE DEMOGRAPHICS PIECE, IF YOU GO TO A HOCKEY GAME, AS I MENTIONED, I'M NOT THE HUGEST HOCKEY FAN, BUT STILL ENTERTAINING TO GET OUT ONCE IN A WHILE TO GO TO A GAME. WHEN I DO GO, I'VE SEEN THAT HOCKEY ARENA PACKED ON SOME NIGHTS HALF PACKED ON OTHERS. AS FAR AS DEMOGRAPHICS, YOU HAVE EVERYTHING FROM CHILDREN AND FAMILIES TO A LOT OF SENIORS OUT ENJOYING. SO THAT'S THE BIG THING. IT'S FOR ALL AGE GROUPS AS A WAY TO GET OUT MENTAL WELLBEING, MENTAL HEALTH, ENJOYMENT AND ENTERTAINMENT FOR THE EVENING. WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG TO PAY THE LOAN BACK? I THINK THAT'S BEEN ANSWERED ALREADY. WHY NOT HIRE LOCAL MANAGEMENT GROUP INSTEAD OF SOUTHERN ONTARIO? ONE, I THINK, AGAIN, I WAS A BOARD DECISION PROBABLY BASED ON RESOURCES. SEVEN HUNDRED PER YEAR SPIN OFF QUESTION WE JUST ANSWERED. WHAT, HOW DOES THIS BENEFIT RETIREMENT LIVING, HOW MANY RETIREES PLAY ON THIS TEAM? I THINK RETIREMENT LIVING IS A GOOD CORPORATE SPONSOR THAT ENJOYS TO SEE THAT ENTERTAINMENT FOR ITS PATRONS IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY SPONSOR QUITE A BIT, INCLUDING THE HOCKEY TEAM. WHY IS MANAGEMENT CONTRACT PRIVATE WHEN IT'S PUBLICLY FUNDED, AGAIN, NOT PUBLICLY FUNDED? THIS IS A PRIVATE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. THE CITY, AGAIN, IS A SPONSOR, AS IS RETIREMENT LIVING [INAUDIBLE] AND MANY OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES IN TOWN, INCLUDING REALTORS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. ELLIOT LAKE TODAY'S QUESTION, WILL THE DIRECTORS BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TEAM'S DEBTS? I IMAGINE THE BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR DEBTS. WILL RECEIVE REVENUE FROM SIGN RENTALS THAT WAS DISCUSSED THIS EVENING. WHAT IS COUNCILLOR PEARCE'S TOTAL REMUNERATION FOR SERVICES TO THE RED WINGS? COUNCILLOR PEARCE IS APPOINTED BY THE MUNICIPALITY AS A COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE AND DOES NOT MAKE A CENT FROM DOING THIS. AS FOR MOST THINGS THAT COUNCIL DO IS A LOT OF VOLUNTEER TIME. DID THE TEAM ASK DETROIT IF THEY COULD USE THE RED WINGS LOGO AND I GOT TO DEFER THIS ONE TO YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE SOMEBODY ELSE'S NAME. I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I GOT INVOLVED IN A VERY MAJOR DISPUTE ON TRADEMARK ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO OVER THE NAME THE HOCKEY NEWS. AND IT TURNS OUT THE PEOPLE CAN USE THE NAME THE HOCKEY NEWS, EVEN THOUGH THE PUBLICATION THAT I WAS THE PUBLISHER OF WAS KNOWN INTERNATIONALLY AS THE HOCKEY NEWS, OTHER PEOPLE WERE USING IT AND THEY HAD EVERY RIGHT TO. THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. OK, SO YOU COULD HAVE CALLED THEM THE LEAVES JUST [03:30:01] SAYING, OH, NO, GOD, NO. I WENT FOR THE CANADIANS PERSONALLY. BUT, YOU KNOW, OK [INAUDIBLE] I MUST HAVE BEEN TOUCHING THE SCREEN A WHOLE LOT. WHAT PROVISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE FOR THE TEAM IF THE PANDEMIC CONTINUES FOR ANOTHER YEAR, NO REVENUE IS REALIZED? AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A BOARD ISSUE AND NOT A CITY ISSUE. ON TO THE NEXT ONE'S GEORGE DUNGEN SENDS IN QUESTION NUMBER ONE, SINCE CITY HALL IS CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND COUNCIL MEETINGS. SHOULD THE HOCKEY FACILITY ALSO BE KEPT CLOSED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY? BUT OF COURSE, AND WE DISCUSSED THIS EARLIER, ALSO EVERYTHING WE DO LATELY IS DEPENDENT ON THE PANDEMIC AND THE MOOD OF THE PANDEMIC DAY BY DAY. SO WE JUST HOLD OFF ON THAT QUESTION. NUMBER TWO, WILL THE CITY BE COVERED BY INSURANCE IF A CLAIM IS MADE AGAINST THE ELLIOT LAKE REDWINGS ASSOCIATION PERTAINING TO COVID-19 ILLNESS? AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A CITY OWNED TEAM. IT'S A SEPARATE NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION. QUESTION THREE IS ELLIOT LIKE RED WINGS TEAM PERMITTED TO TRAVEL TO GAMES, EVENTS BY BUS. I IMAGINE IT'S ALL COVID DEPENDENT. EVERYTHING IS. DEPENDING ON THE PROVINCIAL LOCKDOWNS AND WHAT'S GOING ON. ANOTHER QUESTION. BEEN WAITING FOR OVER FOUR YEARS TO HAVE.. NOPE, NOPE. IT'S NOT A QUESTION FOR ANY OF THE ITEMS TONIGHT. BUT I HAVE SPOKEN TO MR. DUNGEN ABOUT THIS. AND WE'LL ALSO BE SPEAKING TO STAFF IN MORE DETAIL ABOUT THIS ONE ALSO. ITEM NINE POINT TWO ARTS AND CULTURE HUB UPDATE QUESTION COMES FROM KEITH MOYER. GLAD TO HEAR FROM YOU AGAIN, MR. MOYER. GOOD TO KNOW YOU'RE FEELING WELL AND STILL WATCHING US. SO IT SAYS SOME TIME AGO, A MAIL OUT WAS SENT OUT TO EVERY HOME IN TOWN ASKING PEOPLE TO INDICATE INTEREST IN DIFFERENT CULTURE AND ARTS PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES LISTED. SINCE IT'S BEEN SOME TIME NOW, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO PRESENT A TOTAL ACCUMULATION OF PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES WHICH WERE RETURNED? SO FAR, ALL WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT IS DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN CITY. A COMMITTEE OF STAKEHOLDERS, GENERAL PUBLIC, IS INTERESTED AND WOULD APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION. MR. TURNER, I BELIEVE YOU WERE ABLE TO GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR MR. MOYER. MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION FOR ME. WELL, THERE I ALSO CHASED THE COLLECTORS OF THE INFORMATION AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR AN ANALYSIS OF THINGS PEOPLE WERE INTERESTED IN WHAT THEY USED. AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WAS GOING UP ON THE CITY WEBSITE BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF THE REPORTING TO THE ARTS AND CULTURE HUB COMMITTEE. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL. JUST MAYBE IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET, BUT A LOT OF THAT DATA WAS PRESENTED TO THE ART STEERING COMMITTEE. IT WAS PART OF A PRESENTATION, BUT IT WOULD BE BURIED INTO THAT AGENDA PACKAGE. SO MR. ANTUNES AND I SPOKE ABOUT CREATING A NICE, TIDY PAGE ON THE WEBSITE FOR OUR TWO HUBS OR OUR HUB AND OUR ART CENTER. SO WE'RE STARTING TO CALL IT [INAUDIBLE]. SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC TO FIND THAT INFORMATION. BUT IT IS OUT THERE. IT WAS PRESENTED TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE. BUT WE'LL GET IT OUT THERE MORE READILY. OK, THANK YOU. SO LAST QUESTION THAT I HAVE HERE COMES FROM [INAUDIBLE]. WHAT WOULD THE CITY THINK OF PUTTING IN ATTACHING A REASONABLY PRICED HOTEL MOTEL WHERE PATRONS COME FROM OUT OF TOWN, STAY OVERNIGHT AND MAYBE ENJOY ACTIVITIES WE HAVE TO OFFER IN THE DAY COMING FOR SNOWMOBILING, PLOTTING, CURLING, [INAUDIBLE], ICE FISHING, SWIM MEETS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. I IMAGINE THIS IS TALKING ABOUT THE ARTS AND CULTURE HUB ALSO. THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING P3. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANY ON THAT LAND, BUT THE CITY IS ALWAYS INTERESTED IN THE PROSPECTS OF NEW HOTELS/MOTEL AND ANY EXPANSION GROWTH WE CAN SEE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THE CITY IS ALLOWED TO OWN A HOTEL. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THOSE PROVISIONS IN THE MUNICIPAL ACT THAT WE JUST WE CAN'T DO. BUT WOULD WELCOME DEFINITELY SOMETHING NEW. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT ABOUT THIS AS BEING PART OF THE ARTS HUB? NO, THAT WOULD BE AN OUTSIDE ISSUE. I DO HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH. I KNOW WE HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS AND YOU KIND OF SKIMMED OVER SOME. [03:35:04] BUT THERE WAS A CONCERN BROUGHT FORWARD BY MINOR HOCKEY ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE DRESSING ROOMS. AND I'M JUST WONDERING, MR. GAGNON, WHEN THIS TIME WHEN EVERYONE'S WHEN FACILITIES ARE CLOSED AND WORK COULD BE DONE, COULD IT COULD THEY TAKE A LOOK AT THEM AND SEE WHAT THE ISSUE IS WITH THEM IF THEY'RE BROUGHT THAT FORWARD TONIGHT IN QUESTION PERIOD? YEAH, I MISSED THAT QUESTION, BUT I'LL ABSOLUTELY LOOK INTO IT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT NOW IS THE PERFECT TIME WE'RE DOING IT IN CITY HALL AND WE HAVE FEWER PATRONS WALKING OUR HALLS AND WE'RE DOING SPRING CLEANING AND WHATNOT. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT. THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE FORWARDED TO THE CLERK FOR THIS EVENING'S PUBLIC QUESTION PERIOD. THERE'S NO CLOSED SESSION THIS EVENING, 18 CONFIRMATORY BYLAW, EIGHTEEN [18. CONFIRMATORY BY-LAW] POINT ONE BYLAW, TWENTY ONE DASH THIRTY TWO. BEING A BYLAW TO CONFIRM THE PROCEEDINGS AT THE SPECIAL MEETING HELD MONDAY, APRIL 19, 2021. CAN I HAVE A MOVER FOR THAT PLEASE. MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER. QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? SEEING NONE CALL FOR A VOTE IN FAVOR. ROLL CALL, WE'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE IN FAVOR COUNCILLOR CYR. I WASN'T PRESENT, SO I'M NOT VOTING. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR TURNER, FAVOR COUNCILLOR PEARCE. FAVOR COUNCILLOR MANN OPPOSED. I'M IN FAVOR, THAT'S CARRIED EIGHTEEN POINT TWO BY LAW. TWENTY ONE DASH THIRTY SEVEN BEING A BYLAW. CONFIRMING THE PROCEEDINGS OF COUNCIL AT ITS MEETING HELD APRIL 26TH, 2021. CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, SECOND, BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, QUESTIONS QUALMS QUERIES. SEEING NONE ROLL CALL ONCE AGAIN, COUNCILLOR CYR IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR PATRIE OPPOSED COUNCILLOR PEARCE FAVOR. COUNCILLOR TURNER FAVOR COUNCILLOR MANN. OPPOSED, OK, I'M IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED. AND A MOTION TO ADJOURN MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN SECOND BY COUNCILLOR CYR. UH. DONT EVEN TO HAVE TO CALL FOR A VOTE, BUT I WILL ALL IN FAVOR HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU ALL FOR ATTENDING THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.