Jun 28, 2021 City Council

>> I'M IN FAVOR. THOSE ARE CARRIED. THANK YOU.

NO PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING.

[6. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS]

SIX, INTRODUCTION, AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS.

NATALIE, LET ME KNOW IF I'M GOING THROUGH THE NUMBERS TOO QUICK FOR YOU.

[LAUGHTER] 6.1 REPORT OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICER RE.

SENIORS COMMUNITY GRANT PROGRAM.

RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICER DATED JUNE 22ND, 2021 BE RECEIVED, AND THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE APPLICATION TO THE SENIORS COMMUNITY GRANT PROGRAM FOR $25,000 FOR THE PROJECT OF COMMUNITY BULLETIN BOARDS AS RECOMMENDED IN THE ELLIOT LAKE COMMUNITY SAFETY AND WELL-BEING PLAN.

CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE.

MOVED BY COUNCILOR PATRIE, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR CYR.

GOOD EVENING MS. VLAHOVICH.

ARE YOU DOING THIS REPORT FOR US?

>> YES, I WILL BE TONIGHT, AS MS. ROY IS ON A VACATION THIS WEEK.

>> BEAUTIFUL.

>> JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THE SENIORS COMMUNITY GRANTS IS TO SUPPORT PROJECTS THAT ENABLE LOCAL NOT-FOR-PROFIT COMMUNITY GROUPS, AND ORGANIZATIONS TO DELIVER PROGRAMS LOCALLY.

THIS FUNDING BECAME AVAILABLE JUST RECENTLY, AND IT'S ANYWHERE FROM $1,000 TO A $25,000 PROJECT, [NOISE] AND IT WAS ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED BY MR. [INAUDIBLE] THAT IF IT DIDN'T NECESSARILY ALIGN WITH A SPECIFIC ITEM OUT OF THIS FAIRLY ACTION PLAN THAT A GREAT PROJECT, WOULD BE THE BILLBOARD SIGNAGE, COMING OUT OF THE NEWLY ADOPTED COMMUNITY WELL-BEING PLAN.

MS. ROY LOOKED INTO THAT AND HAS PROVIDED THIS REPORT TONIGHT, AND RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH DOING THE COMMUNITY BULLETINS AS RECOMMENDED IN THE COMMUNITY WELL-BEING PLAN.

THERE WOULD BE BULLETINS AT THE COLLINS HALL, AND ALSO OTHER AREAS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE GO FOR THE FULL AMOUNT, IF POSSIBLE, AS IT IS A 100 PERCENT FUNDING, AND A FULL-DETAILED REPORT FOR THE FINAL LOGISTICS, AND A DESIGN OF THE BILLBOARDS WILL BE AVAILABLE IF THE FUNDING IS RECEIVED.

>> [NOISE] THANK YOU MS. VLAHOVICH , LOVE TO HEAR A 100 PERCENT DOLLARS.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL VOTE TO APPROVE THIS REPORT.

STARTING COUNCILOR PATRIE, ONCE AGAIN.

THANK YOU AGAIN, MS. VLAHOVICH.

>> 6.2 REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF CLERKS AND PLANNING, [NOISE] FOI REQUEST 02 2021.

AS THIS MATTER CONCERNS A REQUEST MADE UNDER THE MUNICIPAL FREEDOM OF INFORMATION AND PROTECTION OF PRIVACY ACT IT SHALL BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 239 3A OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT.

CAN I HAVE A MOVER TO PUT THAT IN CLOSED SESSION.

MOVE BY COUNCILOR MANN, SECOND BY COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? NONE AGAIN, I WILL CALL A VOTE.

I'LL START WITH COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

>> I'M IN FAVOR. THAT'S MOVED TO CLOSE. THANK YOU.

6.3 REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS ESTON DRIVE SOUTH CULVERT REPLACEMENT RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF REPORT RDS 2021 01 DATED JUNE 22ND, 2021 OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED, AND THAT CONTRACT NUMBER RDS 2021-01 FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE ESTON DRIVE SOUTH CULVERT IN THE AMOUNT OF 340,000 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES BE AWARDED TO WENDELL FARQUHAR TRUCKING LIMITED.

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CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE.

MOVED BY COUNCILOR PEARCE, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR CYR.

MR. HALLOCH , TAKE IT AWAY PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

BACKGROUND FOR EVERYONE AT HOME IS THE INSPECTION OF THE ESTON DRIVE'S SOUTH CULVERT REVEALED EXTENSIVE CORROSION AT THE WATERLINE LEVEL OVER THE MAJORITY OF THE LENGTH OF THE CULVERT.

THE CONDITION OF THE CULVERT WAS COMPROMISED TO THE EXTENT THAT REPLACEMENT WAS WARRANTED.

THE SERVICES OF [INAUDIBLE] ENGINEERING WAS SECURED TO ASSIST WITH PRELIMINARY DESIGN, AND COST ESTIMATES FOR A SUITABLE REPLACEMENT.

ENGINEERING WORK WAS COMPLETED BY PUBLIC ENGINEERING AND CALLED FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF 1, [BACKGROUND] 1500 MILLIMETER DIAMETER CORRUGATED STEEL PIPE, 54 METERS IN LENGTH.

THE TENDER FOR THE WORK WAS RELEASED ON MAY 28TH, 2021, AND CLOSED AT 3:00 PM ON FRIDAY, JUNE 18TH, 2021.

THE TENDER WAS SENT OUT BY INVITATION TO FOUR LOCAL CONTRACTORS, AND AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE, BEMIS, WENDELL FARQUHAR TRUCKING, JI, AND LEROY.

DUE TO THE PANDEMIC AND GUIDELINES SET OUT BY THE LOCAL HEALTH UNIT ASKING RESIDENTS TO NOT TRAVEL OUT OF THE ALGOMA REGION, THE DECISION TO INVITE TO LOCAL CONTRACTORS WAS MADE.

IN TOTAL, THREE FIRMS SUBMITTED TENDER RESPONSES BY SPECIFIC CLOSING TIME WITH ONE BID COMPLETED BY A CONTRACTOR OUTSIDE THE ALGOMA REGION, RM BELANGER LIMITED.

THE TENDER INCLUDES ALL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT OF THE CULVERT AS WELL AS THE SITE REMEDIATION OF ROAD RESTORATION, AND INCLUDES A $25,000 CONTINGENCY ALLOWANCE.

THE PRICING RECEIVED THROUGH THE TENDER RESPONSE WAS AS FOLLOWS.

WENDELL FARQUHAR TRUCKING 360,314, RM ELLIOTT, AND THIS IS PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES.

RM BELANGER LIMITED 318,810.90 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES, AND BEMIS CONSTRUCTION INC. 398,227.18 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES.

FORM OF TENDERS, BONDING CERTIFICATES, PROPOSED EQUIPMENT FORMS, TENDER EXPERIENCE FORUMS, AND TENDERED LIST OF SUBCONTRACTORS WERE REVIEWED.

NO BID IRREGULARITIES WERE NOTED DURING THE REVIEW PROCESS.

AFTER REALIZING THAT RM BELANGER WAS NOT ONE OF THE COMPANIES INVITED THE TENDER A PHONE CALL WAS MADE TO WENDELL FARQUHAR TRUCKING TO NEGOTIATE A LOWER PRICE AS THEY WERE THE LOW BID.

AFTER FURTHER DISCUSSION, WENDELL FARQUHAR TRUCKING WAS WILLING TO LOWER THEIR BID PRICE TO 340,000 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT, AND BE WITHIN 6.5 PERCENT OF THE BID SUPPLIED BY RM BELANGER LIMITED COMPARED TO 13.5 PERCENT.

[NOISE] WITH THE FINANCIAL BREAKDOWN OF IT, THE LOWEST BID OF 340,000.

ALSO LOOKING AT ENGINEERING COSTS TO DATE WAS 29,000, COST OF THE CULVERT PURCHASED BY THE CITY, 23,000.

WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 392,000.

COUNCIL APPROVED THE 2021 CAPITAL PROJECT AMOUNT TO $407,040 TO COMPLETE THE REPLACEMENT OF THE ESTON DRIVE SOUTH CULVERT PROJECT.

THE CITY PURCHASED THE REPLACEMENT CULVERT, SAVING ESTIMATED 20,000 FOR THE TOTAL PRICE.

THE PROJECT IS TO START BY JULY 12TH, 2021, AND BE COMPLETED BY AUGUST 6TH, 2021, WHICH IS A TOTAL OF FOUR WEEKS, AND WILL REQUIRE INSPECTION COSTS ESTIMATED TO BE AROUND 10,000.

THIS WOULD STILL RESULT IN THE PROJECT BEING UNDER BUDGET BY AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF 5,000, AND CAN BE AS HIGH AS 30,000 IF CONTINGENCY IS NOT UTILIZED.

BASICALLY, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE BID SUBMITTED BY WENDELL FARQUHAR TRUCKING LIMITED IN THE AMOUNT OF 340,000 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES FOR THE CONTRACT NUMBER RDS 2021-01 FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE ESTON DRIVE CULVERT BE APPROVED FOR REASONS STATED ABOVE.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH FOR THE REPORT AND AS PER USUAL, THANK YOU FOR LOOKING OUTSIDE THE BOX AND SAVING THE TAXPAYERS HARD-EARNED MONEY.

IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

COUNCILOR PATRIE HAS A QUESTION.

>> THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. JUST A COMMENT.

I SPOKE WITH MR. HALLOCH ON THIS, AND, TRADITIONALLY, I WOULD BE ONE OF THE PEOPLE SAYING THAT'S TOO BIG OF A SWING, $20,000 IS AN AWFUL LOT OF TAXPAYERS MONEY.

BUT WITH COVID, WITH THE FACT THAT THIS WORK IS GOING TO BE DONE IN STAGE 2, AND STAGE 3 OF THE GOVERNMENT'S REOPENING PLANS, I AGREE THAT IT SHOULD BE DONE WITH SOMEBODY LOCAL.

THE LESS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WE BRING INTO THE COMMUNITY IF WE DON'T NEED TO, THE BETTER.

I THINK THAT THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT FUNDING IS PROBABLY WELL-SPENT EXPENSE,

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SO I AM IN FAVOR OF KEEPING IT WITH THE LOCAL BUSINESS, AND NOT BRINGING SOMEBODY FROM OUTSIDE OF OUR HEALTH DISTRICT IN TO DO THE WORK.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR ROLL CALL.

LET'S START WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. HALLOCH.

SEVEN, PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS.

[7. PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS]

[NOISE] 7.1 REFERRAL FROM THE FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE UPDATE ON INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY PROJECTS 2020/2021.

COUNCILLOR MANN, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE HELD ON MONDAY, JUNE 21ST THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED; THAT THE MEMO OF THE DIRECTOR OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY BE RECEIVED, AND THAT IT BE FORWARDED TO COUNSEL FOR INFORMATION AND I SO MOVE.

>> SECONDER PLEASE? SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, IF YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE US A HIGH-END ON THIS, COUNCILLOR MANN?

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. MS. SCOTT PRESENTED AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE WORK THAT BEING CURRENTLY DONE IN THE IT DEPARTMENT.

THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN QUITE BUSY AS THEY ALWAYS ARE WITH SOFTWARE UPDATES, AND INSTALLING NEW INITIATIVES IN THE COMMUNITY.

SHE WAS ABLE AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL TO PROVIDE US AN OVERVIEW OF TWO NEW STREAMING CAMERAS THAT WE HAD SPOKEN ABOUT PREVIOUSLY.

ONE AT THE MINERS' MONUMENT, AND ONE AT THE BOAT LAUNCH, THE PIER.

I BELIEVE MS. SCOTT IS WITH US THIS EVENING, AND SHE HAS OFFERED TO PROVIDE COUNCIL AND THOSE WATCHING AT HOME JUST AN OVERVIEW.

THESE CAMERAS ARE ONLY SHOWING A LIVE FEED.

THEY'RE NOT RECORDING IN ANY WAY.

THEY'RE NOT MEANT TO BE PUNITIVE OR FOR THAT.

VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE RESIDENTS TO REALIZE THAT.

THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER COMMUNITY THAT HAS A LIVE WEB STREAM OF FOCAL POINTS IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THOSE IN TOWN, AS WELL AS THOSE POTENTIALLY VISITING OF WHAT'S CURRENTLY HAPPENING IN THE AREA.

I WOULD ASK MS. SCOTT TO IF THERE'S ANYTHING ADDITIONAL ON THE REPORT BUT OTHERWISE IF SHE COULD SHOW THOSE LIVE STREAMS I'D APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU. MS. SCOTT, GOOD EVENING.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. THERE IS JUST ONE QUICK UPDATE AT THE FINANCE AND ADMIN COMMITTEE I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT WE ARE STILL MONITORING THE UBF FUNDING.

WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING AS OF YET, BUT WE ARE MONITORING EVERY DAY.

I'LL JUST SHARE MY SCREEN, AND I WOULD LIKE TO UPDATE YOU THAT WE'RE PUTTING UP THE SIGNAGE AND THESE PAGES SHOULD BE LIVE BY END OF WEEK.

I'LL JUST SHARE MY SCREEN, AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE BOTH.

>> HOPEFULLY, EVERYONE CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE AT THE PIER AT THE BOAT LAUNCH.

THE PEN GOALS FOR APPROXIMATELY TWO MINUTES BACK AND FORTH.

IT DOES STOP AT DIFFERENT AREAS JUST BRIEFLY IN ORDER TO HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING.

AT ANY POINT SHOULD WE HAVE AN EVENT AT EITHER THE PIER OR AT THE MINERS' MEMORIAL, WE CAN ADJUST THE PEN TO SAY IF WE WERE HAVING SOME EVENT AND WE JUST WANTED THE CAMERA TO STAY PUT WE CAN DO THAT.

WE CAN ADJUST AS LONG AS WE MAKE ARRANGEMENTS AHEAD OF TIME.

THIS IS AS COUNCILLOR MANN SAID, THIS IS LIVE STREAM, THERE IS NO SOUND AND THERE IS NO RECORDING.

AS YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT A PRETTY DECENT NIGHT OUT ON ELLIOT LAKE, AND I'LL SWITCH US OVER TO THE MINERS' MEMORIAL.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO SOME PRUNING OF A COUPLE OF THESE TREES SO WE CAN SEE THE [LAUGHTER] FRONT A LITTLE BETTER, BUT IN THE WINTERTIME IT WON'T BE AN ISSUE.

>> ABSOLUTELY, [INAUDIBLE] WAY TO PROMOTE OUR BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY.

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>> DAN, I SEEM TO HAVE LOST THE ABILITY TO STOP THE SHARING.

>> [LAUGHTER] INTERESTING. OKAY, WE'LL SEE YOU IF THERE IS A WAY TO DO THAT.

>> YEAH.

>> THIS IS THE REST OF OUR MEETING [INAUDIBLE] LAUNCH.

>> [LAUGHTER] I'M SORRY.

>> THERE WE GO. THANK YOU, DAN.

>> NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU, ROBYN.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS REPORT FOR MS. SCOTT, COUNCILLOR CYR?

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.

THANK YOU, MRS. SCOTT FOR THIS.

I THINK THIS IS AN AMAZING TOOL FOR PROMOTING OUR CITY.

MY ONE QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY PLANS TO HAVE ONE OF THESE CAMERAS SET UP AT LOOKOUT TOWER WHICH WOULD HAVE A FANTASTIC VIEW AS WELL? BUT I'M HAPPY TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE.

I'M JUST LOOKING OUT FOR THE FUTURE FOR ANOTHER ONE OF OUR LANDMARK LOCATIONS.

>> AT THIS POINT, WE HAVEN'T PURCHASED A THIRD CAMERA.

HOWEVER, I HAVE VERIFIED AND THERE IS STILL SOME FUNDING LEFT IN THE ACCOUNT THAT WAS USED FOR THE CAMERAS.

I CAN CERTAINLY IF IT'S COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, I CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO GETTING ANOTHER ONE.

HOPEFULLY, WITH COVID IT WON'T TAKE TOO LONG, BUT ABSOLUTELY.

>> BEAUTIFUL.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.

DURING THE COMMITTEE MEETING, I HAD ASKED MRS. SCOTT AND HOPEFULLY SHE DOES HAVE AN UPDATE.

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN GET USAGE REPORTS ON BOTH THE WI-FI AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THE WEBSITE TO SEE IF WE HAVE SPENT OUR MONEY WISELY?

>> WE'VE BEGAN TO LOOK INTO THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE ANY STATS FOR YOU TONIGHT, BUT WE ARE LOOKING INTO IT AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT, YES.

>> IF I MAY JUST A FOLLOW-UP. I DIDN'T EXPECT YOU TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ANY [LAUGHTER] STATS TONIGHT.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IS IT FEASIBLE THAT WE DO GET THOSE STATS ON A QUARTERLY OR MONTHLY BASIS? BUT QUARTERLY IS EVEN FINE.

BUT ARE WE ABLE TO GET THOSE REPORTS? IT WAS THE QUESTION THAT I HAD.

I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH IF WE CAN GET THEM OR NOT?

>> YES, I'M WORKING ON THEM NOW.

>> IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SCOTT? SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. SCOTT. JOB WELL DONE.

I'LL CALL FOR ROLL CALL VOTE HERE, STARTING WITH COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

>> I'M IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.

7.2 REFERRAL FROM THE FINANCE AND ADMIN COMMITTEE, INVESTMENT POLICY.

COUNCILOR MANN, ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. AT THE SAME FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE MEETING HELD ON MONDAY, JUNE 21ST, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TREASURER REGARDING THE INVESTMENT POLICY BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL ADOPT THE ATTACHED INVESTMENT POLICY, APPENDIX A AND I SOLO.

>> THE SECONDER, PLEASE? THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PATRIE.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, COUNSELOR MANN, IF YOU WILL.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

OUR TREASURER, MS. SANDBERG IS ATTEMPTING TO FIND ADDITIONAL WAYS THROUGH THE MUNICIPAL ACT TO ENSURE THAT OUR DOLLARS ARE RECEIVING THE BEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT AS POSSIBLE.

WITH THE CURRENT CLIMATE, CLEARLY THERE AREN'T A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES.

HOWEVER, THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DETERMINED.

THIS INVESTMENT POLICY IS ATTEMPTING TO MAKE TWO MINOR CHANGES TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAMS TO THE MUNICIPALITY AND I WOULD ASK MS. SANDBERG TO DETAIL THOSE TWO POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE RECOMMENDED THIS EVENING. THANK YOU.

>> WAITING FOR MS. SANDBERG TO POP UP.

GOOD EVENING MRS. SANDBERG.

>> GOOD EVENING TO YOU MR. MAYOR.

THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE INVESTMENTS ARE THE SURPLUS FUNDS THAT EXIST WITHIN THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED PRIOR IN THE RESERVES PORTFOLIO.

FROM THAT RESERVES PORTFOLIO AND WHEN WE REVIEWED THAT LAST MONTH, WE LOOKED AT THE INVESTMENT INCOME THAT COMES IN AS INTEREST REVENUE TOWARDS THOSE AND IS REDISTRIBUTED WITHIN THE RESERVES.

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THE RESERVES WE HAVE DISCUSSED MAY HAVE SOME ISSUES MOVING FORWARD AND SO ONE WAY WE CAN AUGMENT THOSE RESERVES WITHOUT LEVYING TAXPAYERS IS TO FIND WAYS TO INCREASE INTEREST REVENUE.

TO DO SO, IT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED BY OUR PORTFOLIO HOLDINGS, WHICH ARE RBC AND EDWARD JONES, TO CONSIDER THE EXTENSION AND APPROVAL THAT WE CAN MOVE SOME OF OUR MONEY INTO EQUITIES FUNDS.

SOME OF THOSE INCLUDE ETFS AND THEY ARE QUITE SAFE, HAVE MINIMAL MANAGEMENT FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM AND IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO DO SO WITH A SMALL AMOUNT OF THE PORTFOLIO WITHIN THE CURRENT GUIDELINES.

ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THE CURRENT PORTFOLIO DOES ALLOW FOR A SMALL AMOUNT OF EQUITY INVESTMENTS, NAMELY WITH ONE FUND WHICH IS MANAGED BY THE ASSOCIATION BETWEEN MUNICIPALITIES, CHUMPS AND THE LES.

TO THAT EXTENT, WE'RE LOOKING AT AND PROPOSING THAT ONE AMENDMENT TO THE PORTFOLIO POLICY FOR INVESTMENTS BE EXTENDED TO INCLUDE CANADIAN EQUITIES AND ALSO THERE WERE A FEW LITTLE ONE MINOR HOUSEKEEPING ADDITION TO THE INVESTMENT POLICY AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE DISCLOSURE OF DISPOSALS AND THAT IT WOULD BE MY RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT COUNSELOR WAS APPRISED OF ANY DISPOSALS AND HOW THOSE MONEYS WOULD BE REINVESTED TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE EARNING INTEREST REVENUE AT THE BEST ABILITIES POSSIBLE DURING WHATEVER MARKET WE ARE IN.

IF YOU NEED ANYMORE, I COULD KEEP GOING, BUT THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MS. SANDBERG. ASK IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? SEEING NONE.

MAJORITY OF COUNCIL DID ATTEND THE COMMITTEE MEETING.

A LOT OF EXPLANATION THERE.

WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT MRS. SANDBERG AND I WILL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE STARTING WITH COUNCILOR PATRIE.

>> COUNCILOR TURNER.

7.3, REFERRAL FROM THE FINANCE AND ADMIN COMMITTEE, ONCE AGAIN, INSURANCE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF RISK MANAGEMENT, COUNCILOR MANN.

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP. AT THE SAME FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE HELD LAST MONDAY, JUNE 21ST, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TREASURER REGARDING INSURANCE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF RISK MANAGEMENT BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL ADOPT IN PRINCIPLE THE ATTACHED REPORT, 2021 INSURANCE MARKETPLACE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF RISK MANAGEMENT CULTURE, APPENDIX A AND I SO MOVE.

>> SECONDARY PLEASE. COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, COUNSELOR MANN.

>> I THINK YOUR WORSHIP, WHEN WE WERE FACED LAST YEAR WITH AN EXCESS OF $274,000 INCREASE IN OUR INSURANCE PREMIUMS FOR THE YEAR, WE DECIDED AT THAT POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, INSURANCE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS QUITE IMPORTANT TO MUNICIPALITY AND POTENTIALLY SHOPPING BUSINESS THIS YEAR.

CLEARLY WITH THAT KIND OF PREMIUM INCREASE, THERE AREN'T A LOT OF OTHER COMPANIES THAT ARE WILLING TO TAKE ON OUR BUSINESS FRANKLY, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DISAPPOINTING, BUT IT REALLY IS THE NATURE OF THE MUNICIPALITY AT THIS POINT, UNFORTUNATELY.

OUR CURRENT PROVIDER HAS PROVIDED US WITH ACTUALLY A TEMPLATE MOVING FORWARD, WHICH I THINK IS A VERY PRUDENT WAY TO BEGIN TO DEAL WITH RISK AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING ALL THE REASONABLE PRECAUTIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

THAT KIND OF INCREASE IS NOT ONLY SEEN BY THE MUNICIPALITY, THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN OTHER SECTORS AND THE PANDEMIC TRULY HASN'T HELPED.

BUT OBVIOUSLY OUR EXPERIENCE RATING IN THE PAST WITH OUR CARRIERS HAS NOT HELPED.

I BELIEVE IT WAS TERMED AT COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE SCARS AND THEY'RE HEALING, BUT WE STILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE SCARS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM FOR AWHILE.

SO WE NEED TO DO BETTER AT OUR BUSINESS TO MINIMIZE RISK MOVING FORWARD IN ORDER TO TRY TO GET THESE PREMIUM DOWN AT SOME POINT.

I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MS. SANDBERG IF THERE'S ANYTHING ADDITIONAL.

BUT IN A NUTSHELL, WE NEED TO EMBRACE A NEW MANTRA OF RISK MANAGEMENT MOVING FORWARD AS AN ORGANIZATION AND HOPEFULLY ALL DO OUR PART TO WORK TOGETHER TO DECREASE THIS OVERTIME.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR MANN, I HAVE A QUESTION FROM COUNSELOR PATRIE.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE RECOMMENDATION AND THAT AMENDMENT

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WOULD BE THAT ANY CLAIM OR A LAWSUIT BE BROUGHT TO COUNSEL AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING.

I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. SEE IF WE GET A SECONDARY BEFORE I BRING IN THE JUSTIFICATION OF WHY.

>> SECONDARY FOR THE AMENDMENT?

>> COUNCILOR FINAMORE. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

>> THANK YOU. OVER THE MANY YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN SITTING ON COUNCIL, THERE HAVE BEEN A MULTITUDE OF LAWSUITS AND CLAIMS THROUGH THE INSURANCE COMPANY THAT COUNSEL ISN'T EVEN AWARE OF.

STUFF THAT WE WOULD HEAR ABOUT SOMETIMES THROUGH RUMOR MILL WOULD HAVE TO GO AND STAFF ABOUT SOMETIMES.

WHEN IT GOT SO FAR DOWN A RABBIT HOLE, IT WOULD COME TO COUNCIL AND I'M NOT BLAMING ANYBODY HERE, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR CURRENT STAFF, IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR PREVIOUS STAFF, IT'S JUST THE WAY THAT THE WORK OF THE DAY WAS BEING DONE.

ALL OF THIS STUFF WASN'T BROUGHT FORWARD TO COUNCIL.

BUT IF WE'RE TRYING TO MITIGATE OUR LOSSES AND INCREASE OUR RISK MANAGEMENT, I THINK THAT COUNSELORS SHOULD BE APPRISED OF AND I GET A LOT OF THESE ARE JUST SLIP AND FALLS OR THEY'RE MINOR STUFF AND SOME OF THEM ARE BELOW OUR DEDUCTIBLE.

BUT I THINK THAT COUNCIL, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT BUDGETING AND TAKING CARE OF OUR FINANCES AND LOOKING AT MITIGATING RISK, COUNSELORS SHOULD BE AWARE OF ANY CLAIMS WHETHER THEY'RE GOOD, BAD, FRIVOLOUS, OR MAJOR.

I THINK COUNSEL SHOULD BE APPRISED OF IT SO THAT WHEN WE GET INTO BUDGETING AND MAKING POLICIES, WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT THE TABLE.

THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD TO MOVE INTO THIS RISK MANAGEMENT ISSUE WHERE STAFF HAS TO DO ALL OF THIS TIME CONSUMING STUFF AND MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING PROPER RISK MANAGEMENT, I THINK THAT IT SHOULD START AT THE TOP AND WE SHOULD BE FULLY AWARE OF WHAT ISSUES WE'RE DEALING WITH.

>> COUNSEL MANN?

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP. WE DID DISCUSS THIS PARTICULAR MATTER AT COMMITTEE, AND I HAVE NO ISSUE AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH COUNCILOR PATRIE THAT WE DO NEED TO DISCUSS IT AT A COUNCIL LEVEL.

HOWEVER, I'M A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT TYING IT TO A SPECIFIC RESOLUTION REGARDING A PRODUCT COMING FROM OUR CURRENT PROVIDER.

I THINK WHETHER WE SEPARATED OUT, WE PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF.

BUT I ABSOLUTELY AGREE AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR AS AN UPDATE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL ONGOING MATTERS THAT WE MAY NOT BE AWARE OF TO SECOND TERM.

I AGREE. I'M LOOKING FOR A WAY TO ENSURE THAT THIS DOES GET DONE FOR COUNCIL, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT REALLY SHOULD BE TIED TO THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION. THANK YOU.

>> I JUST ASK THE CLERK ON THAT.

COUNCILOR MANN AND MS. BRAIN, DOES IT MAKE A HUGE IMPACT IF THAT AMENDMENT IS TIED TO THIS MOTION PER SE OR IS IT BETTER OFF AS DIRECTION?

>> THAT WOULD BE THE WHOLE OF COUNCIL IS MOSTLY JUST HAS TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ON AT THE NEXT MEETING, IT COULD BE JUST DIRECTION TO STAFF FOR UPDATES.

COUNCILLOR FINAMORE THEN BACK TO YOU COUNCILLOR MANN.

>> THROUGH YOU, MR. MAYOR, I WANTED TO ASK MS. SONNENBURG, WHAT IS A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME DO YOU THINK FOR US TO BE NOTIFIED THAT THERE'S BEEN A LAWSUIT?

>> THROUGH YOU TO RESPOND TO COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

I THINK THEY WOULD DEPEND ON THE NATURE OF THE SUITE.

IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DEEMED TO BE FRIVOLOUS RIGHT OFF THE GET-GO, THAT WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WILL HAVE ANY MERIT OR YOU MOVE FORWARD.

I WONDER THINKING OUT LOUD IF IT'S WORTHWHILE TO BRING FORWARD AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL, OR I'D HAVE TO NOODLE IT AROUND A LITTLE BIT TO DECIPHER WHICH CASES WOULD HAVE MERIT TO BRING FORWARD.

I THINK IT WOULD BE ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IN THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN ANY ACTION TAKEN AGAINST THE CITY COUNCIL, WASN'T SURPRISED OF, BUT I'M SURE THAT OPERATIONALLY WE COULD ENSURE THAT I WOULD ENSURE PERSONALLY THAT WOULD HAPPEN MOVING FORWARD.

HOWEVER, UNDERSTANDS THE MOTION TO MAKE IT PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION.

WE COULD ALSO EXPLORE THIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THIS EXERCISE WITH VSL CANADA, AND LEARNING TO OPERATE IN AN ENVIRONMENT OF

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RISK MANAGEMENT AS PART OF THE BEST PRACTICES THAT MAY COME OUT OF IT.

WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WHAT MIGHT WORK AS WELL TOO, AND WE COULD SET SOME GUIDELINES, AND SOME LIMITATIONS AROUND WHEN, AND WHERE COUNCIL BECOMES INVOLVED TO AVOID SOME OF THE FRIVOLOUS THINGS TO HAVE TO CROSS YOUR PLATE.

I'M NOT CERTAIN, BUT I HAVE TO NOODLE IT AROUND.

>> MR. DANIEL, YOU HAD A RESPONSE TO THAT ALSO?

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY HARM IN HAVING AN ADDED ON TO THAT MOTION OR HAVE IT AS DIRECTION TO STAFF.

WE UNDERSTAND THE SPIRIT OF IT AND THE INTENT OF IT AND WILL TAKE IT OFFLINE, AND WILL FACILITATE IT IF IT MAKES COUNCIL MORE COMFORTABLE TO HAVE THE MOTION PASS, THAT'S FINE, OR DIRECTION TO STAFF, AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNICATION AND IT'S NOT ONLY ABOUT CLAIM LIKE LAWSUITS, IT'S ALSO ABOUT PLAIN OLD ACTS OF GOD AND LIGHTNING STRIKES AND CLAIMS. WE'LL HAVE TO SORT THAT OUT AND FIGURE OFFLINE AND COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH SOME FORM OF UPDATING PROCESS WITH, WE'RE PERFECTLY FINE WITH IT.

>> BACK TO YOU COUNCILLOR MANN.

>> THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE] , I DON'T WANT TO DRAG IT OUT ANY LONGER THAN IS REQUIRED.

MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD BE IF THE RESOLUTION OR THE AMENDMENT RATHER IS TO BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING AND REALLY DOESN'T BENEFIT NEXT YEAR'S COUNCIL.

THE NEXT TERM OF COUNCIL, I WANT TO BEGIN A PROCESS WHERE WE'RE REGULARLY REVIEWING THIS.

SO I THINK DIRECTION TO STAFF IN THE SPIRIT OF THIS IS MORE APPROPRIATE TO DETERMINE GUIDELINE TO FOLLOW.

I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE NEED TO BE UPDATED AS WELL AT THE NEXT MEETING AS AN EXAMPLE, OR IN TWO MEETING OR WHENEVER IT'S REASONABLE FOR STAFF TO BRING IT FORWARD.

BUT AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THAT ANNUAL RENEWAL PIECE JUST SO THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE OF WHAT'S STILL OUTSTANDING FOR THE PATH. THANK YOU.

>> CLARIFICATIONS FOR YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

COUNCILLOR MANN IS MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT I'M TRYING TO PUT FORWARD, I BELIEVE.

I DON'T WANT THIS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AT ALL.

THIS IS AN AMENDMENT THAT GOES WITH THE RISK MANAGEMENT THAT ANYTIME THERE IS A CLAIM OR A LAWSUIT BROUGHT AGAINST THE CITY, THE COUNCIL GETS NOTIFIED PERSONALLY IMMEDIATELY AND WHETHER THEY'RE FRIVOLOUS OR NOT, THOSE FRIVOLOUS AMOUNTS OR CLAIMS OR ATTEMPTS OF CLAIMS GO AGAINST OUR SCORING WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANY AND SO I THINK COUNCIL SHOULD BE A PRIZE.

SO WHAT I'M DOING VIRTUALLY IS GOING THROUGH HISTORY OF BEING ON COUNCIL AND FINDING OUT ABOUT NUMBERS OF SLIP AND FALLS OR JUST I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO IT, I THINK BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT DOES COME FORWARD, ANY OF THE STUFF THAT WOULD COME FORWARD WOULD HAVE TO BE IN CLOSED SESSION TO NAME PEOPLE.

BUT IT'S JUST I WANT COUNCIL TO BE BROUGHT UP WHEN THESE THINGS ARE FILED SO THAT WE'RE CONTINUALLY BEING APPRISED OF ANYTHING HAPPENING AGAINST ANY ACTIONS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD AGAINST THE MUNICIPALITY.

I'M NOT ASKING FOR THIS REPORT TO COME BACK, I WANT THIS REPORT TO STAY AS IS SO IF THERE'S WORDING THAT'S GOT TO BE ADDED TO MY AMENDMENT, IT COULD BE AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING AFTER FILING IF THAT MAKES MORE SENSE TO THE MEMBERS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET FORWARD THAT THE ISSUE IS OVER THE YEARS, COUNCIL HAS NOT BEEN MADE AWARE OF AN AWFUL LOT OF CLAIMS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD TO THE MUNICIPALITY AND I JUST WANT THAT TO START THAT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE DIRECTIONAL, I WANT IT TO BE BY RESOLUTION.

>> SO MS. BRAY, IF YOU MIGHT, CAN YOU READ THE AMENDMENTS SO THAT IT'S CLEAR FOR COUNCIL.

>> FIRST, SO I'VE TWEAKED IT A LITTLE BIT AS PER COUNCILLOR PATRIE'S LAST UPDATE SO THAT ANY CLAIMS OR LAWSUITS BROUGHT AGAINST THE CITY, THEN AN UPDATE YOU BROUGHT FORWARD TO COUNCIL AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE COUNCIL MEETING.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILLOR PEARCE AND THEN COUNCILLOR TURNER.

>> THANK YOU, YOU WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH THE INTENT, BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH COUNCILLOR MANN.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED A RESOLUTION OF COUNCIL TO DO THIS, I THINK DIRECTION TO STAFF IS WHAT IS REQUIRED.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SET UP A SYSTEM WHEREBY THE CAO AND MS. SONNENBURG WOULD BE ABLE TO KEEP TRACK OF THESE THINGS AND HOPEFULLY APPRISE COUNCIL WHEN IT'S NECESSARY TO BE APPRISED.

WE DON'T NEED TO MICROMANAGE EVERYTHING, EVEN THE MOST MINOR, I UNDERSTAND AGAIN, THE INTENT OF THAT, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY.

LET'S TRUST OUR STAFF TO DO WHAT THEY WANT, WHAT IS RIGHT, AND BY GIVING THEM THE DIRECTION THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> A WHOLE BAG TO COMMENT, YOUR WORSHIP, I THINK IT'S BEEN COVERED.

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I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THE INITIAL MOTION.

>> SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE AMENDMENT, I'LL CALL FOR ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.

STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

>> OPPOSED.

>> I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED THE AMENDMENTS CARRIED SO ONTO THE INITIAL MOTION, COUNCILLOR TURNER, YOU HAD A QUESTION FOR THE MOTION AS A WHOLE?

>> I DID, UNFORTUNATELY, I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THE COMMUNITY MEETING, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS BEEN ASKED, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE IS INSURANCE HERE DEALING WITH THE PERSONAL INSURANCE SUCH AS PROVINCE, MEDICAL, AND VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER, ACCIDENT INSURANCE.

HAVE WE ANYWHERE INCLUDED OUR RISK-MANAGEMENT COMMENTARY ON GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE THAT SYDNEY DEAL, SIR?

>> MS. SONNENBURG.

>> THROUGH YOU, MR. MAYOR, THE GROUP BENEFITS IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PORTFOLIO OF INSURANCE THAT'S HELD BY THE CITY.

THE OUT OF PROVINCE MEDICAL HERE, AND VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS ACCIDENT INSURANCE IS RELATED TO LIABILITY ASSOCIATED WITH OFFICERS AND DIRECTORS, NOT OUT OF PROVINCE MEDICAL FOR RECREATIONAL TROUBLE.

>> JUST BACK TO MY QUESTION, MA'AM, AGAIN, PART OF RISK MANAGEMENT, ARE WE GOING TO GIVE THE SAME KIND OF REVIEW TO THE GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE, WHICH ALSO SEEMS TO BE CLIMBING STEADILY IN COST.

>> I WOULD THOUGHT THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT DURING THE BUDGETARY PROCESS.

SALARIES AND BENEFITS. SORRY, GO AHEAD.

>> I'M SORRY. IT'S JUST RISK MANAGEMENT IN A BENEFIT SCENARIO IS MORE ABOUT HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND EDUCATION THAN SAYING THE HEALTHIER LIFESTYLE.

DIG ALL YOUR MANAGERS AND THAT IS HAPPENING AND WE LOOK AT THAT AND WE HAVE VERY DETAILED METRICS AND IF COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE SOME OF THAT WITHOUT NAMES, OF COURSE, IT'S JUST STATS AND ANALYSIS OF THE USE OF OUR BENEFITS PACKAGE AND WE REVIEWED IT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE THAT OFFLINE AND COME BACK AND GET COUNCIL A MORE THOROUGH BRIEFING ON THE BENEFITS SIDE OF IT.

IT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL AS MS. SONNENBURG MENTIONED THEM THAN THE RISK LIABILITY INSURANCE PORTFOLIO.

IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING, BUT THERE IS VERY DETAILED ANALYSIS ON THAT AND WE LOOK AT IT EVERY YEAR TO SEE WHEN WE CAN WE GO TO THE MARKET AND WHAT'S OUR PACKAGE LIKE AND WHAT IS THE MARKET GETTING.

SO THAT'S ALREADY BEING LOOKED AT BUT WE WERE HAPPY TO BRIEF COUNCIL ON THAT AS WELL.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON 7.3? I'LL HAVE MS. BRAY READ THE [INAUDIBLE] AS AMENDED BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT.

>> YOUR WORSHIP. THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, TREASURER REINSURANCE, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF RISK MANAGEMENT BE RECEIVED, AND THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED PRINCIPLE THE ATTACHED REPORT 2021 INSURANCE MARKETPLACE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF RISK MANAGEMENT CULTURE, APPENDIX A, AND THAT ANY CLAIMS OR LAWSUITS BROUGHT AGAINST THE CITY HAVE AN UPDATE BROUGHT FORWARD TO COUNCIL AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE COUNCIL MEETING.

>> THANK YOU. THE ROLL CALL STARTING WITH COUNCILOR PATRIE.

>> COUNCILOR MANN?

>> I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU, 7.4 REFERRAL FROM THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE [NOISE] WHICH I WILL HAND OVER TO COUNCILOR CYR.

>> AT YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU, VIA MAYOR AND COUNCIL WITH INFORMATION REGARDING THE PROPOSED CONTRACT BETWEEN GFL ENVIRONMENTAL.

THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE FOR THE PROVISION OF RESIDENTIAL CURBSIDE GARBAGE COLLECTION SERVICES.

THAT STAFF REPORT IN ENV 2021-02 DATED JUNE 14TH, 2021 OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED.

THAT COUNCIL APPROVES CONTRACT ENV 2021-02, REGARDING PROVISION OF RESIDENTIAL CURBSIDE GARBAGE COLLECTION SERVICES

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FOR A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD TO GFL ENVIRONMENTAL FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $892,604, PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES AND [INAUDIBLE]

>> SECONDER PLEASE.

>> SECONDED BY COUNCILOR MANN.

THANK YOU, ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COUNCILOR CYR?

>> I'D LIKE TO REFER TO MR. HOLLICH.

>> THANK YOU, MR. HOLLICH.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR CHAIR AND YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU BOTH.

ANYBODY THAT NEVER SAW ANY OF THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMUNITY MEETING.

THE BACKGROUND FOR THIS IS THE CURBSIDE GARBAGE COLLECTION, IS IN THE CENTRAL COMPONENT OF CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE WASTE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

THIS SERVICE HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY MUNICIPAL WASTE AND RECYCLING CONSULTS SINCE 2011.

IN JULY OF 2019, THE MUNICIPAL WASTE AND RECYCLING CONSULTANTS WERE BOUGHT OUT BY GFL ENVIRONMENTAL, WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REMAINING FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT SIGNED IN 2016.

THERE WILL BE A TENDER NUMBER END 2021-02 WAS RELEASED ON APRIL 20TH, 2021.

THE CONTRACT PROVIDING SERVICE TO APPROXIMATELY 4,016 HOUSEHOLDS INCLUDES THE PROVISIONS OF ALL LABOR, MATERIALS, AND EQUIPMENT NECESSARY FOR THE COLLECTION OF CURBSIDE RESIDENTIAL GARBAGE.

THE TENDER DOCUMENT OUTLINED ALL REQUIREMENTS, SPECIFICATIONS, AND STANDARDS WHICH MUST BE ADHERED TO IN KEEPING WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] INITIATIVES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

THE TENDER CALLS FOR THE COLLECTION TO TAKE PLACE IN ONE DAY PERIOD ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

[NOISE] BASICALLY, THE TENDER WAS ADVERTISED ON THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE WEBSITE AS WELL AS THE BIDS OF TENDERS WEBSITE.

ONE FIRM SUBMITTED A RESPONSE TO THE TENDER.

CURRENTLY THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE IS PAYING A 159,864 PLUS HST ANNUALLY.

THE NEW ANNUAL PRICE BEGINNING BY JULY 2021 WOULD BE A 168,126 PLUS IT JUST DEEPER YEAR.

APPROXIMATE INCREASE OF FIVE PERCENT WITH AN ANNUAL INCREASE OF THREE PERCENT PER YEAR FOR THE FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT, RESULTING IN A TOTAL FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT COST OF 892,604 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES.

THERE IS A 165,000 BUDGET IN THE CURBSIDE WASTE COLLECTION OPERATION BUDGET FOR 2021.

BASICALLY THERE'S A CHART JUST STATING AS YOU WOULD SEE OUR PRICES HAVE GONE UP PER HOUSEHOLD FOR THE ACTUAL SERVICE UP CURBSIDE COLLECTION.

WHERE BACK IN 2020, WE'RE LOOKING AT 39 WELL, LAST YEAR $39.81 PER HOUSE ANNUALLY WILL BE AT THE END OF THE CONTRACT 4,712 PER HOUSEHOLD.

[NOISE] THERE WAS A TOTAL OF A 165,000 BUDGET IN 2021 FOR THE CURBSIDE GARBAGE COLLECTION.

THE BID SUBMITTED BY GFL ENVIRONMENTAL AT A 168,126 PLUS TAXES RESULTS IN THAT 5 PERCENT INCREASE YOU TALKED ABOUT.

WE WILL FALL WITHIN BUDGET, BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT SPLIT UP FROM JULY TO JULY.

APPROVING THE RECOMMENDATION PRESENTED IN THIS REPORT WILL ENSURE CONTINUALITY IN TO PROVISION OF NECESSARY SERVICE.

AS A PROVEN LEVEL OF COMPETENCY AND DELIVERY OF THE SERVICE AND HAS PROVIDED A PRICE WITHIN THE BUDGETED AMOUNT.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> THANK YOU. MR. HOLLICH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? SEEING NONE I'LL GO COUNCILOR CYR.

>> AT YOUR WORSHIP IT'S NOT A QUESTION IT'S JUST A COMMENT.

WHILE I FULLY AGREE IN SUPPORT OUR CITY GROWING AND EXPANDING OUR RECYCLING, I FEEL THIS CONTRACT ONLY OFFERS OUR CITIZENS INCREASES IN COSTS AND TAXES WITH MINIMAL INCREASE IN RECYCLING.

WE'RE NOT GETTING A VALUE FOR OUR CITIZEN'S FOR THEIR DOLLARS.

I FEEL FOR THE AMOUNT OF GARBAGE THAT WE KEEP PUSHING TO DIVERT, WE KEEP INCREASING THE PRESSURE TOWARDS RECYCLING YEAR AFTER YEAR BUT WE'RE NEVER INCREASING OUR CAPACITY TO ACCEPT OUR RECYCLING.

I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE STARTED LOOKING AT INCREASING OUR CAPACITY RATHER THAN ALWAYS LOOK FOR INCREASES IN HOW MUCH WE'RE DIVERTING, BECAUSE WE'RE PUSHING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

LET'S, GET A BETTER HORSE FIRST AND THEN YOU CAN GET A BIGGER CART.

RIGHT NOW, IF ANYTIME YOU GO TO THE RECYCLING DEPOT WE'RE

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STRUGGLING TO FIND SUITABLE BINS SOMETIMES TO PUT OUR RECYCLING PRODUCTS THERE.

NOT ALL OF US CAN PUT ALL OUR RECYCLING AT THE CURB EVERY DAY SOME OF US WORK ALL WEEK.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO GO TO THE DEPOT TO GET THE REST OF IT, SO WE NEED TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF BINS AT THE SITE.

WE NEED TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR RECYCLING INSTEAD OF JUST RAISING THE COST, PUSHING THE RECYCLING THAT'S MY POINT.

JUST FOR THAT REASON, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS CONTRACT BECAUSE I FEEL WE'RE JUST INCREASING THE BURDEN BUT WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR CYR, I BELIEVE RECYCLING IS ACTUALLY 7.5 IS THE NEXT ITEM.

7.4 WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE REGULAR CURBSIDE. IT'S OKAY.

[NOISE] I KNOW WHY MR. HOLLICH PLANS ON BRINGING US [NOISE] SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY AMAZING AS FAR AS OUR NEW LANDFILL OPERATIONS AND SITE'S GOING TO BE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THAT AND HOPEFULLY THAT TAKES CARE OF SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS, COUNCILOR CYR.

AGAIN, WE'RE ON 7.4 FIVE-YEAR PROVISION OF CURBSIDE GARBAGE COLLECTION.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? NONE WE'LL CALL VOTE, COUNCILOR PATRIE?

>> I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU,7.5 REFERRAL FROM THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE COUNCILOR CYR AGAIN, PLEASE.

>> TO PROVIDE LAYER AND COUNCIL WITH INFORMATION REGARDING THE PROPOSED CONTRACT FOR JEFF L ENVIRONMENTAL AND THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE FOR THE PROVISION OF RESIDENTIAL CURBSIDE AND OVERHEAD BIN RECYCLING COLLECTION SERVICES.

THAT STAFF REPORT ENV 2021-03 DATED JUNE 15TH, 2021 OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED, AND THAT CONTRACT ENV 2021-03 BE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL CURBSIDE AND OVERHEAD BIN RECYCLING COLLECTION SERVICES TO JEFF L ENVIRONMENTAL FOR 54-MONTH PERIOD AT A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $954,830 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES AND I SO MOVE.

>> A SECONDARY, PLEASE? SECONDED BY COUNSELOR PEARCE.

AGAIN, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COUNCILOR CYR?

>> I'D LIKE TO REFER TO MR. HOLLOCH PLEASE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. HOLLOCH.

>> THANK YOU. THAN WORSHIP.

THIS SERVICE ALSO OFFERED BY THE SAME GROUP WHICH WAS A MUNICIPAL WASTE FOR A WHILE.

AGAIN, GFL TOOK OVER THAT CONTRACT.

BASICALLY MOVING FORWARD, THE TENDER WAS ADVERTISED ON THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE WEBSITE, AS WELL AS THE BIDS AND TENDERS WEBSITE, ONE FIRM SUBMITTED A RESPONSE TO THE TENDER.

GOING INTO THE CURBSIDE RECYCLING COLLECTION, CURRENTLY, THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE PAYS $123,970.80 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES ANNUALLY.

THE NEW ANNUAL PRICE BEGINNING JULY 1ST OF 2021 WOULD BE $140,008 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES AND AN APPROXIMATE INCREASE OF 14 PERCENT WITH AN ANNUAL INCREASE OF THREE PERCENT, RESULTING IN THE 54 MONTH TOTAL OF 670,451 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES FOR THE CURBSIDE RECYCLING PICK-UP.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE OVERHEAD BIN RECYCLING, CURRENTLY, THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE PAYS 52,977 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES ANNUALLY VIA A NEW ANNUAL PRICE BEGINNING JULY 1, 2021 WOULD BE 59,523 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES AND AN APPROXIMATE INCREASE OF 12 PERCENT WITH AN ANNUAL INCREASE OF THREE PERCENT, RESULTING IN A 54 MONTH TOTAL OF 284,372 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES.

THIS ONE HERE, THE NEW COST FOR THE 54 MONTHS IS DUE TO SIGNIFICANT NEW COSTS THAT HAVE HIT THE RECYCLING INDUSTRY.

AS EVERYONE'S AWARE OF THE NORTH AMERICAN RECYCLING COMMODITY MARKET CAME TO A NEAR-CRASH IN EARLY 2018.

SINCE THEN, COUNTRIES LIKE CHINA HAVE CLOSED THEIR DOORS TO THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMODITIES FROM NORTH AMERICA, WHICH AT ONE TIME TOOK OWES TO 100 PERCENT OF THE MATERIAL.

RECYCLING CONTRACTORS LIKE GFL HAD BEEN FIGHTING A SUPPLY AND DEMAND TYPE MARKET WHERE THERE'S

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SO MUCH RECYCLING MATERIAL AND NOT ENOUGH DEMAND.

THAT BEING SAID, BUYERS OF COMMODITIES HAVE IMPLEMENTED VERY SIGNIFICANT MEASURES, SPECIFICALLY ON CLEANLINESS AND CONTAMINATION IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BUY THE MATERIAL, WHETHER IT BE POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE MATERIAL.

SINCE THIS HAPPENED IN LATE 2017, EARLY 2018, GFL HAS HAD TO REWORK, RETOOL THE MATERIAL RECYCLING FACILITIES IN ORDER TO PRE-SORT, SORT, CLEAN, AND THEN BALE MATERIAL TO MAKE IT EYE-CATCHING AND MARKETABLE [NOISE].

THE END PRODUCT THAT GFL CREATES HAS MADE THEM A LEADER IN THE RECYCLING INDUSTRY, HOWEVER, AT A SIGNIFICANT COST.

AS FOR THE CITY OF ELLIOT VALUE LAKE, IN ORDER FOR THE INCREASED TO BE MORE PALATABLE, GFL IS WILLING TO UP THE COLLECTION BASKET OF GOODS TO A FULL 1-7 COLLECTIONS REGARDING RECYCLE OF PLASTICS.

CURRENTLY, THE CITY IS ALLOWED TO RECYCLE ONE TO SIX OF PLASTICS.

THIS WILL ALLOW RESIDENTS TO RECYCLE MORE MATERIAL WHILE PREVENTING IT FROM BEING DISPOSED OF IT IN THE LAND FIELD.

THIS 54-MONTH CONTRACT WILL BRING THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE TO THE TRANSITION PERIOD WHERE THE AMENDED BLUE BOX PROGRAM TRANSFERS ALL FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PRODUCERS AND PACKAGING PLANTS.

BASICALLY, AS WE SPOKE OF BEFORE IN EARLIER MEETINGS, THE WHOLE PROGRAM IS WORKING THAT WAY WHERE MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS ONTARIO WILL ALL BE UNDER THE SAME PROGRAM COLLECTING THE SAME AMOUNT OF STUFF.

IF SOMEBODY MOVES FROM, AS WE SPOKE OF BEFORE, SAINT CATHERINE'S OR [INAUDIBLE] DELHI LAKE, IT'LL ALL BE THE SAME PROGRAM IN THE WHOLE PROVINCE.

THAT'S GOOD THAT WAY BECAUSE IT IS DIFFERENT IN EVERY COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW COMPARED TO WHAT THE CONTRACT IS PICKING UP WHAT.

YES, THE COST IS GOING UP, BUT THE THAT COST WILL BE GONE AFTER THE 54-MONTH PERIOD AND IT'LL ALL BE BACK TO THE ACTUAL, LIKE YOU SAID, PACKAGING PLANTS, CONSUMERS [INAUDIBLE].

THOUGH THERE WAS A TOTAL OF 177,000 BUDGETED IN 2021 FOR RESIDENTIAL CURBSIDE AND OVERHEAD BIN RECYCLING COLLECTION SERVICES HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED BY GFL ENVIRONMENTAL OF 199,531 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES RESULTS IN AN AMOUNT OF 22,531, OVER BUDGET THAT WILL BE CAPTURED IN THE END OF THE YEAR VARIANCE REPORT.

[NOISE] PROVEN THE RECOMMENDATION NOW PRESENTED IN THIS REPORT WILL ENSURE AGAIN, LIKE THE GARBAGE TO CONTINUE REALITY OF THE PROVISION OF NECESSARY SERVICE.

IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM NOW.

>> THANK YOU, MR. HOLLOCH. I BELIEVE MAYBE THIS MIGHT OPEN UP OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME MAJOR CANADIAN RECYCLING COMPANIES OR POSSIBLY GASIFICATION PLANTS AND IN THE FUTURE.

BECAUSE EVEN TRANSFERRING THE COST TO THE SUPPLIER RIGHT OFF THE BAT IS GOING TO TURN AROUND AND COME BACK TO THE TAXPAYER REGARDLESS AS A CONSUMER PURCHASING PRODUCTS.

IT'S A VICIOUS CIRCLE.

SORRY MY QUESTION, WHICH I'VE BEEN ASKED A FEW TIMES BY SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS [NOISE] IS MORE ALONG THE LINES, WOULD IT BE MORE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE FOR THE MUNICIPALITY TO GET BACK INTO THE GAME OF PICKING UP OUR OWN TRASH, HAVING OUR OWN GARBAGE TRUCKS AND OUR OWN STAFF DOING IT ALL.

JUST CURIOUS AS TO YOUR INSIGHT ON THAT QUESTION MR. HOLLOCH.

>> THAT'S SOMETHING I'D HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE FINANCIAL PARTS OF IT.

OF COURSE, WITH THE CAPITAL COST OF PURCHASING THE ACTUAL VEHICLES AND EVERYTHING OUT THERE AND MORE STAFF AND I KNOW IT'S ONE OF THOSE JOBS TOO THAT, WHEN YOU'RE COLLECTING A LOT OF THINGS, YOU END UP WITH A LOT OF SICK TIME AND IN AN INJURY-TIME BECAUSE OF BACK PROBLEMS AND STUFF.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE FACTORING INTO A LOT OF THIS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD DEFINITELY LOOK INTO AS THE PRICES CONTINUE TO CLIMB AND SEE IF IT IS A BETTER IDEA FOR THE CITY TO FINANCIALLY TAKE OVER SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE.

I'VE ALREADY BEEN LOOKING AT A FEW OTHER THINGS AS WELL SO WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN TIE IT ALL IN TOGETHER AND GO FROM THERE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. HOLLOCH. COUNSELOR TURNER.

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP. MR. HOLLOCH, CAN YOU REPORT, GFL WAS TURNED AROUND AND SAY THAT IN ORDER TO MAKE THINGS MORE PALATABLE FOR US, THEY'RE GOING TO INCLUDE MEMBER SEVEN AND I TAKE IT THAT'S PLASTICS WE'RE REFERRING TO.

>> YEAH. CORRECT.

>> WHEN I LOOK UP NUMBER 7 IN THE [INAUDIBLE] SHEETS WHAT PLASTICS ARE, IT JUST SAYS OTHER.

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DOES THAT MEAN WE CAN PRETTY WELL PUT ANYTHING THAT'S PLASTIC INTO RECYCLE?

>> TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE LIMITS ON SOME OF THE WRAP AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S STUFF THAT I KNOW THE AMENDED BLUE BOX PROGRAM'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GIFT WRAPPING AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I KNOW THERE ARE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE IN THERE, BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST PACKAGING AS IN STUFF YOU'D BUY FROM THE GROCERY STORE AND STUFF, YES, YOU'RE CORRECT ON THE PLASTICS ON THAT.

[NOISE] BUT IT'S GOING TO BE SO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLASTICS THAT I CAN'T SAY YES TO EVERYTHING AT THIS POINT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF THEM SINGLED OUT.

>> I WAS JUST WONDERING IF SEVEN WAS THE CATCHALL FOR ANYTHING THAT MAY BE ALLOWED BEFORE.

I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED THE QUESTION.

>> YEAH.

>> THANK YOU. YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU I ALREADY MADE MOST OF MY CORNER.

>> COUNSELOR CYR.

BUT I THINK TO ADDRESS OUR CAPACITY PROBLEM, I THINK WE SHOULD SERIOUSLY CONSIDER ADDING MORE BINS AT THE DEPOT AND ALSO INCLUDING SUNDAY HOURS, OPENING HOURS SO THAT SOME PEOPLE WHO WORK DURING THE WEEK CAN HAVE ACCESS TO GET RID OF THEIR RECYCLING.

JUST THOSE TWO THINGS ALONE, I THINK WILL ALSO HELP MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF GARBAGE THAT'S BEING LEFT THROAT WITH MOTHER NATURE BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE NOWHERE TO PUT IT.

IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR SOME OF US THAT HAVE THESE PILE OF GARBAGE ACCUMULATING AT HOME.

IF WE MISS RECYCLING, THEN WE'RE STUCK FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS BEFORE WE CAN GET RID OF THIS STUFF.

SOME OF US ARE ONLY A DAY OFF SOMETIMES IT'S SUNDAY AND WE CAN'T GET TO IT, SO THAT MEANS ANOTHER WEEK.

IT GETS FRUSTRATING, ASKING FOR THE SAME THING YEAR OVER YEAR WHERE WE KEEP PUSHING THE BURDEN, BUT WE'RE NEVER DOING ANYTHING TO RELIEVE CAPACITY.

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. HALLOCH.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I'VE BEEN USING RECYCLING BINS.

THAT'S NORMALLY A JOB THAT SOMEONE ELSE IN MY HOUSEHOLD HAS BEEN DOING FOR ALL OF MY LIFE AND NOT ABLE TO DO THAT.

I'VE BEEN DOING IT AND I WANT TO SAY THAT I'VE BEEN TO THREE OR FOUR IN THE LAST MONTH, I'M LIVING OUT AT CAMP.

WE DO OUR OWN RECYCLING OUT THERE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED TO SEE IN WHAT GOOD SHAPE THEY ARE.

THE ONLY COMMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS THAT I'M RATHER SHORT AND I COULD NOT GO THERE ALONE BECAUSE I CAN'T GET THE LID OPEN, WITHOUT PRYING IT OPEN AND BECAUSE I'M TOO SHORT TO GET IT ALL THE WAY UP AND PUT THE RECYCLING IN.

BUT I DON'T WANT SMALLER BINS, BUT I JUST DID WANT TO SAY I'VE HEARD SO MUCH HORROR STORIES ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE RECYCLING THAT I HAVE NOT FOUND THAT AND THAT I'M HAPPY THAT ALONG THE HIGHWAY, THERE'S PLACES TO GO AND IN TOWN THERE'S PLACES TO GO.

I HAVEN'T HAD TO GO TO THE DUMP WHICH IS SOMETHING I'M GLAD I HAVEN'T HAD TO DO, BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE THE OTHER PLACES IN TOWN AND ALONG THE HIGHWAY THAT PEOPLE CAN ACCESS.

>> ONE OTHER COMMENT I WANTED TO SAY TOO IS IN THE FUTURE TOO.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR NEXT YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ELEVATED POSITION THAT PEOPLE WOULD GO ACROSS THAT WILL SOLVE THAT PROBLEM FOR YOU.

IT'S WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO GO TO SOME LARGER BINS.

THIS IS STUFF THAT I'VE TALKED TO GFL ABOUT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DISPOSE OF THE RECYCLING TO A LOWER DOWN UNIT.

THAT WILL SOLVE THAT PROBLEM IN IT.

IT'S FROM RESEARCH OF LOOKING AT HOW OTHER LAND BILLS ARE DOING THIS AND TRANSFER STATIONS AS WELL.

WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THIS AND RESEARCHING IT, BUT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO HAVE AS MUCH AS WE SAID BEFORE AS MAYOR MERCHANT SELLER MENTIONED, MAKING GARBAGE LOOK GOOD OR THIS IS GOING TO MAKE IT AN ACTUAL MORE ENJOYABLE TRIP DOWN TO THE LANDFILL WHERE WE HAVE TO DISPOSE OFF EVERYTHING.

>> COUNCILOR PEARCE.

>> THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP. [LAUGHTER] I'M SORRY, THAT LAST COMMENT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER GOING TO BE ENJOYABLE [OVERLAPPING].

JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION CONCERNING COUNCILOR TURNER'S STATEMENT OR QUESTION.

THERE IS ACTUALLY A CATEGORY 7 AND IT IS CONTAINED WITHIN THAT LITTLE TRIANGLE SYMBOL THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE BOTTOM OF MOST PLASTICS IS THE VERY FLIMSY PLASTIC.

BUT IF IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT SYMBOL WITH A NUMBER IN IT, YOU CANNOT THROW IT OUT.

YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ON SOME OF THIS STUFF BECAUSE MANUFACTURERS OF CERTAIN ITEMS LIKE TO PUT A LITTLE TRIANGLE ON THE BOTTOM OF IT, BUT THERE'S NO NUMBER INSIDE.

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IF THERE'S NO NUMBER INSIDE, YOU CAN'T RECYCLE IT.

THERE IS A NUMBER 7 ON.

I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU GO TO A GROCERY STORE, IF YOU GO TO A COUNCILOR CITY WORKS AND YOU BUY SOME MUSHROOMS, QUITE OFTEN THEY'LL BE IN A LITTLE PLASTIC CONTAINER, AND THE PLASTIC CONTAINER HAS NUMBER 7 INSIDE THAT LITTLE TRIANGLE.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. IT'S NOT EVERYTHING.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT WRAPS ON THINGS LIKE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILOR PATRICK.

>> THANK YOU THROUGH YOU TO MR. HALLOCH.

I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILOR CYR IS SAYING ABOUT THE ISSUES OF THE BINS BEING FULL.

IN OUR CONTRACT, CAN WE NOT CONTACT GFL AND HAVE THEM COME MORE OFTEN TO DUMP AT OUR RECYCLE STATION UNTIL WE GET THE NEW SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING.

I'VE BEEN THERE MANY TIMES WHERE YES, THE BINS ARE FULL, THERE'S NO AVAILABLE SPACE LEFT IN SOME OF THEM.

CAN WE NOT GET THEM TO COME AND DUMP AND MAKE SPACE FOR US?

>> WELL THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, I STAY IN TOUCH WITH BOTH THE SECRETARY AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT RUNS THE SHOW THERE.

THEN MOST TIMES THEY CONTACT ME AND LET ME KNOW IF A LOT OF THE BINS ARE TO A POINT AND MAYBE SUGGEST THE NEXT PER DAY.

THERE IS SEASONAL STUFF TOO AT SOME OF THE BINS AROUND TOWN THAT WE INCREASE SEASONALLY BECAUSE THERE'S MORE PEOPLE OUT THAT WILL JUST SAY, IF DUNLOP SHORES AND AREAS LIKE THAT AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RECYCLING BINS UP LANDFILL, BUT WE CAN CALL IT ANY POINT THERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO SOLVE WITH THIS PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE AS WELL IS TO HAVE SOMEBODY TO MONITOR IT BECAUSE LOTS OF TIMES PEOPLE MIGHT THROW IN FULL BOXES.

IT'S FILLING UP A LOT, FULLER THAN SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING TO BREAK DOWN A BOX AND PUT IT IN PROPERLY.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT'S HAPPENING AND IT'S HAPPENING ALSO WITH SOME OF THE RECYCLING THAT'S GOING INTO THE COMMINGLE AS WELL.

PEOPLE ARE PUTTING IN BAGS, EVEN GARBAGE.

THIS IS THE POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET, ONCE THE COMPANIES TAKE OVER, IT'S GOING TO BE A STRICT PROGRAM WHERE CONTAMINATION IS GOING TO BE A NO-NO.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING FOR THE NEXT 54 MONTHS.

WE'RE GOING TO BE EDUCATING AND PROMOTING AS BEST AS WE CAN BECAUSE WE KNOW THE RULES ARE GOING TO CHANGE WHENEVER THE MONEY CONTRACTS DAWN AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ABIDE BY EVERYTHING IN A VERY DISCIPLINED WAY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. HALLOCH? COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

YES, GOING INTO THE DUMP CAN BE ENJOYABLE AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT LAST WEEK, BROUGHT MY YOUNGER SON LOGIN WITH ME.

WE HAD THIS MASSIVE HOT WATER TANK THAT'S FIBERGLASS WITH A PLASTIC SHELL OVER IT.

THE GUY WAS THERE WITH THIS BIG MONSTER TRUCK OR THE BIG STEEL WHEELS AND I ASKED HIM IF HE COULD MAKE IT POP.

HE SURE ENOUGH, HE MADE THAT HOT WATER TANK POP LIKE A BALLOON AND IT WAS PRETTY AWESOME.

CAN BE ENJOYABLE.

THIS MORNING, I DID MAKE A TRIP TO THE LANDFILL ALSO.

UNFORTUNATELY, I WENT AT 9:00 AM.

THEY DON'T OPEN UNTIL 10:00 AM.

I HAD A TRAILER ON THE TRUCK, SO I HAD A BACK-UP QUITE A DISTANCE WITH A TRAILER ON THE TRUCK.

I DECIDED TO GO AND DROP OFF THE TRAILER AND GO BACK BECAUSE ALL I HAD WAS A BOXFUL BROKEN DOWN BOXES FOR RECYCLING AND THAT WHOLE AREA WAS CLEANED.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT GETS CLEANED, BUT THE WHOLE RECYCLING AREA WAS CLEAN.

ALL THE CARDBOARD BINS WERE EMPTIED ALREADY.

THE PLASTIC SIDE STUFF, I MEAN THE AREA WAS SPOTLESS.

IT WAS PROBABLY THE BEST I'VE SEEN IT, SO I GOT TO HIT IT UP MONDAY MORNINGS MORE OFTEN.

MY LAST QUESTION TO YOU, YOU WANT TO SEE A BEAUTIFUL LANDFILL SITE, GO TO PEMBROKE.

THE PEMBROKE LANDFILL SITE IS BEAUTIFUL TO SEE.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. THE QUESTION I'VE GOT TO ASK BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S ISSUES GOING ON YEARS AGO.

HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT OUR RECYCLING IS NOT TAKING A TRIP DOWN THE HIGHWAY AND ENDING UP IN BLIND RIVER'S LANDFILL? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT MIRROR SALLY GETTING ON THE HORN AND LETTING ME KNOW THAT SHE'S GETTING ALL MY GARBAGE.

>> NO GUARANTEE THAT'S NOT HAPPENED.

WHAT HAPPENS RIGHT NOW JUST SO WE RAISE AWARENESS.

WE'RE CONSIDERED SMALLER COMMUNITIES WHEN WE'RE TALKING ELLIOT LAKE, BLIND RIVER, AND A LOT OF THE AREAS THEY PICK UP FROM HERE.

EVERYTHING GOES TO THE RECYCLING CENTER AND BLIND RIVER, BUT THEN IT'S PACKAGED UP AND SENT TO A BIGGER CENTERS NOW DOWN IN HAMILTON AND AREAS LIKE THAT.

THEY HAVE THE HIGH TECHNOLOGY SORTING PLANTS WITH THE MAGNETS AND THE AIR THAT SEPARATES A LOT OF THAT STUFF.

THAT'S WHERE EVERYTHING IS GOING NOW.

THIS IS ANOTHER REASON WHY THEY PUT IT IN A LOT OF THESE THINGS BECAUSE OF THE CONTAMINATION.

THESE PLANS ARE THE WAY TO GO SO THEY'RE SHIPPING EVERYTHING DOWN TO THOSE AREAS AND SEPARATING IT ALL DOWN THERE FOR ANY EXTRA SEPARATION THAT'S REQUIRED.

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>> THANK YOU. THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS SO I'LL CALL FOR ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS ITEM STARTING WITH COUNCILOR MANN.

>> I'M IN FAVOR, THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU AGAIN, 7.6 REFERRAL FROM THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE.

ONCE AGAIN COUNCILOR CYR, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.

>> AT THE JUNE 21ST, 2021 PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THAT THE SECOND ORDER CAPITAL PROJECTS UPDATE MEMO BE RECEIVED AND FORWARDED TO COUNCIL FOR INFORMATION AND I SO MOVE.

>> SECONDER, PLEASE. SECONDED BY COUNCILOR TURNER AND I'D ASK MR. HALLOCH IF HE CAN JUST GIVE US A VERY HIGH-END OVERVIEW.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ LINE BY LINE, MR. HALLOCH, ALTHOUGH WE DID ENJOY IT AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL.

>> LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION AND IN HERE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CAPITAL PROJECTS GOING ON.

I JUST WANT TO PUT IT OUT TO COUNCIL, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK ON ANY OF THE ITEMS TO BRING UP THAT THE PUBLIC MIGHT WANT TO KNOW OFFHAND.

A LOT OF THE PROJECTS ARE GOING VERY WELL, JUST TO GIVE US SOME OF THE BIGGER ONES LIKE POT AND POPULAR.

EVERYTHING'S MOVING FORWARD WITH THERE.

THE WATER MAIN HAS BEEN REPLACED ALL THE WAY UP, PAST THE FOUR PINE APARTMENTS, AND NOW WE'RE STARTING DOWN AT THE LAKEVIEW AREA.

THAT'S REPLACED ALL THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE STARTING ON THE OTHER SIDE AND COMING BACK TO THE FIDDLE AND THAT PROJECT SHOULD HOPEFULLY BE DONE IN AUGUST.

AS EVERYONE SEE NOW, JUST ONES I'M GOING TO POINT OUT, THE NEW COURT HAS BEEN PUT DOWN AT RIO DEN.

THERE'S BEEN A FOUNTAIN INSTALLED, NEW BASKETBALL NETS, AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE COURT THAT WAS JUST INSTALLED.

THE GENTLEMAN WILL BE COMING BACK TO PAINT THE THREE-POINT LINES ON THERE AND INSTALL THE BLEACHERS, AND THEN WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF SIGNS THAT WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE THE FUNDERS, AND THE ONES THAT DID A LOT OF WORK TOWARDS THE PROJECT, AND SOME RULES ON THE OTHER SIDE.

WE'VE RECEIVED OUR NEW ZAMBONI, SO THAT'S IT.

WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK, SO WE'RE GOING TO END UP AT THE AIRPORT.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE ITS SOLAR LIGHTS INSTALLED WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER PROJECTS LIKE SURFACE TREATMENT OF THE ROADS, GET [INAUDIBLE] OUT FOR THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT.

THE PROJECT FOR THE CRUSHING OF THE ASPHALT AT THE DOG PARK IS STARTING IN JULY.

WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING OUT ALL THE MESSAGING THAT WE NEED TO LET STAFF KNOW, THAT THE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THEY'LL BE USING THE DOG PARK OVER AT GLENDON ON WASHINGTON FOR THE TIME BEING BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE CLOSING THAT DUE TO MORE THAN JUST LIKE NOISE AND LARGER EQUIPMENT BECAUSE WE'LL BE PICKING THE CRUSHED ASPHALT AND USING THAT OVER AT THE SKI HILL PARKING LOT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE PROJECTS, PLUS SOME TRAIL PROJECTS AROUND TOWN.

BUT THAT'LL BE GOING ON FOR AN ESTIMATE OF 4-6 WEEKS.

THE PUBLIC'S AWARE OF THAT.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO TOUCH ON A LOT OF THESE ONES.

LANDFILL AGAIN WAS ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR A FEW YEARS AND WE COMPLETED THE DESIGN PHASE OF IT OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE, STAKING OUT CERTAIN CELL AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DISPOSING OF HOUSEHOLD WASTE IN THERE, AS WELL AS WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING A LOT OF FEATURES TO IT TOO EVEN TO THE POINT OF ACCEPTING WHITE GOODS THAT DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL [INAUDIBLE] TAKEN OUT OF THEM AT THAT POINT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO OFFER A SERVICE AT A CERTAIN PRICE LEVEL.

PRICES WILL BE COMING OUT IN 2022 WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

IT'S NOT THEIR OPTION, AND THEN A LOT OF RECLAIMED THINGS LIKE WOOD AND THE RECYCLING BINS BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE CONVENIENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE HAZARDOUS WASTE POSSIBLY RUNNING THE EVENT TWICE A YEAR.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE ALL GOING TO TIE TOGETHER WITH THE LANDFILL.

BUT EVERYTHING'S GOING SMOOTH AND WE'RE DONE WITH THE DESIGN, AND THE MANAGER OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES HAS BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD WITH THAT, WITH THE ENGINEERS AS WELL.

JUST TRYING TO THINK, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT SO EVERYBODY REALIZES WEST UP OF TRAILER PARK, LIFTED THE BOIL WATER OUT THERE.

WE'VE INSTALLED AN AUTO FLUSHER AND AUTO FLUSH KEEPS THE WATER FRESH BECAUSE THE AREAS OVER THERE, IT'S LITTLE WATER USAGE.

WHEN WATER SITS FOR A LONG TIME, YOUR CHLORINE WILL SLOWLY GO OUT OF IT.

THIS HELPS KEEP IT FRESH, AND WE'VE EXERCISED A LOT OF VALVES, AND WE'LL KEEP AN EYE ON THAT IF ANYTHING HAPPENS.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR STAFF WILL ALWAYS CONSTANTLY BE MONITORING.

THAT BOIL WATER HAS BEEN LIFTED.

RESIDENTS [INAUDIBLE] EVERYTHING'S ALL GOOD.

WE'RE WORKING ON SPRUCE BEACH LIFT STATIONS.

ONE OF THE FIRST FOUR LIFT STATIONS,

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THAT'S UPDATING FROM A PROPANE TO A DIESEL GENERATOR AND BRINGING THINGS UP ABOVE AUTOMATIC SWITCHOVER.

POWER OUTAGE, WE'RE NOT RUNNING OUT THERE TO GET THERE.

THERE'S A BACKUP AND IT'S FLOWING IN THIS FIRST PAGE.

WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE WHEN THINGS ARE ALL GOOD.

THAT'S ANOTHER BIG POSITIVE.

WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT GETTING A TENDER OUT TO REPLACE THE LINES FROM WESTVIEW PARK, CEMETERY AND THE WATERLINE OUT TO NORTH INDUSTRIAL.

WE'RE STILL GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF JUST COMPLETING THE DESIGN AND WE'LL HAVE A TENDER OUT AND GO FROM THERE.

THAT SHOULD BE DONE THIS YEAR.

AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THE COLBERT REPLACEMENT IS GOING TO BE DONE AT [INAUDIBLE].

THERE'LL BE A PROJECT GOING ON FOR THREE WEEKS, THERE'LL BE SOME DELAYS.

IF RESIDENTS CAN BE PATIENT IN THE PUBLIC DETOURS TO GET TO CERTAIN AREAS, JUST FOLLOW THE SIGNAGE.

WE'RE WORKING ON ALL THE TRAIL SYSTEMS AS WELL AROUND.

WE'RE GOING TO BE ELECTING THE BRIDGES ON SOME OF THE TRAIL SYSTEMS AROUND HERE, JUST A RESTRUCTURING UNDERNEATH.

THOSE ARE ALL MOVING FORWARD, JUST WAITING FOR A COUPLE MORE QUOTES.

AFTER THAT'S DONE, WE'RE GOING TO BE LIFTING ALL THREE, FIXING EVERYTHING UNDERNEATH, REPLACING ALL THE BOARDS.

THAT'S WELL IN THE WORKS.

THE OTHER THING, PROJECT THAT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON TOO, IS WE'RE GOING TO BE LIGHTING UP THE HIGHWAY FROM CENTENNIAL OR SPRUCE ARENA, GOING ALL THE WAY OVER TO MANITOBA ROAD.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN DARK AREAS ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

WE'RE GOING TO BE LIGHTING THOSE UP BY HAVING LIGHTING ALONG CERTAIN POLLS DOWN THAT HIGHWAY AND AS WELL, WE'RE GOING TO BE LIGHTING UP THE TRAIL THAT GOES FROM ESTEN NORTH TO ESTEN SOUTH.

WE'VE USED SOME OF THE CRUSHED GRAVEL ON THAT TRAIL RECENTLY, AND IT TURNED OUT REALLY WELL, AND NEXT PART OF THAT PROJECT IS WE'RE GOING TO BE LIGHTING IT UP WITH LIGHTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING FROM BASICALLY ALL THE WAY ACROSS.

THAT'LL BE A NICE LIT UP PATH SO NOBODY HAS TO WALK ALONG HIGHWAY OR LIKE I SAID MOTORIZED SCOOTER, BIKES OR ANYTHING.

IT COULD BE PART OF THE FUTURE LIKE TRAIL SYSTEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO.

THAT'S THAT.

OTHER THAN THAT, A LOT OF THE OTHER STUFF IS JUST STUFF THAT I'VE TOUCHED ON FOR QUITE AWHILE HERE.

YEAH. NO, THAT'S ABOUT EVERYTHING.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. HALLOCH, FOR YOUR EXTREMELY DETAILED REPORT.

I DO HAVE TO SAY THAT BASKETBALL COURT AT RIO DEN IS THE MOST AMAZING BASKETBALL COURT I'VE EVER SEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY OR ANY OTHER.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY MIND-BLOWING.

I TOLD MR. CRANE THAT THIS MORNING, CONGRATULATE THE GROUP, BUT BIG THANK YOU TO PAUL ALDON WHO PUSHED FOR THAT ALSO.

THE ROTARY CLUB AND 100 MEMBERS THAT CARED, THAT DONATED FUNDS AND ALONG WITH THE RETIREMENT LIVING THAT ALSO DONATED FUNDS.

BIG COMMUNITY PROJECT COME TOGETHER.

ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL SEEING THAT HERE.

I WISH I WASN'T SO BROKEN.

I'D BE OUT THERE PLAYING RIGHT NOW INSTEAD OF TALKING TO YOU, PEOPLE [LAUGHTER].

THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT FOR YOU BUT I'LL WAIT UNTIL THE END. COUNCILOR PATRIE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS.

I'M AGE 64, THE POOL DEHUMIDIFIER, DURING THE COMMITTEE MEETING, I BROUGHT IT UP THAT THERE IS FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR FACILITY REPAIRS AND STAFF SAID, "WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO PUT OUT TOO MANY APPLICATIONS." CURRENTLY, WE HAVE NO APPLICATIONS.

I THINK THAT COUNCIL SHOULD GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO APPLY FOR FUNDING FOR THAT $305,000.

IT IS SHOVEL-READY.

IT DOES MEET THE CRITERIA FOR THE FUND.

I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT, AND I'M GOING TO PUT A MOTION AFTER.

I HAVE THREE DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT I'VE GOT ISSUES WITH.

THERE'S THE POOL DEHUMIDIFIER, THE RIO DEN ARENA ROOF COATING OF $213,000.

AT THAT COMMITTEE MEETING, THERE'S A REPORT THAT SAYS PUBLIC SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED INTO THE BUILDING BUT STAFF CAN.

IF WE CAN'T ALLOW THE PUBLIC IN, I DON'T WANT TO ALLOW STAFF IN, AND I THINK THE BUILDING SHOULD BE CONDEMNED.

EITHER THE REPORT SHOULD BE MORE CONCISE AND SAY WHETHER IT IS SAFE OR ISN'T SAFE.

IF IT'S NOT SAFE FOR THE PUBLIC, IT SURE ISN'T SAFE FOR OUR STAFF IN MY OPINION.

[NOISE] EXCUSE ME.

BUT REGARDLESS, IF IT'S TO THAT STAGE, I DON'T WANT TO SPEND ANOTHER $200,000 POTENTIAL TO PUT CODING ON A BUILDING THAT ISN'T SAFE TO ENTER.

I THINK THAT'S NOT MONEY WELL-SPENT, AND THEN THE THIRD THING, THE WATER MAIN AND SANITARY SEWER LINE GOING ACROSS ELLIOT LAKE TO THE NORTH INDUSTRIAL.

WHEN THAT CAME TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL,

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THE APPLICATION OR THE DOCUMENTATION AND THE RESOLUTION PUT FORWARD, THERE WAS A GRANT TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT FUNDING.

THE GRANT HAS BEEN DENIED.

I THINK WE SHOULD PUT THAT ON HOLD AND RE-INVESTIGATE REMOVING THAT SANITARY SEWER MODERN LINE FROM THE LAKE AND THE POTENTIAL COST, AND ACTUALLY PUTTING THAT ON GROUND SERVICE AND GETTING IT OUT OF OUR DRINKING WATER LAKE.

THOSE ARE MY THREE ITEMS AND I'M GOING TO NEED MRS. BRAY OR MS. BRAY TO HELP ME WITH A RESOLUTION BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE THOSE THREE ITEMS ADDED TO THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION THAT SAYS TO RECEIVE, BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT THE POOL DEHUMIDIFIER HAVE A FUNDING APPLICATION PUT FORWARD, BUT NO FURTHER MONEY BE SPENT ON THE ROOF OF THE RIO DEN ARENA UNTIL FURTHER REPORT COMES FORWARD AND THAT THE WATERLINE IN ELLIOT LAKE NOT BE REPLACED UNTIL WE HAVE FURTHER INVESTIGATION OF GOING AROUND THE LAKE SINCE FUNDING HAS BEEN CANCELED.

DID I WORD THAT WELL ENOUGH FOR MS. BRAY? I WANT TO PUT THAT AS AN AMENDMENT.

>> SECONDER FOR THE AMENDMENT? SECOND FOR DISCUSSION, COUNCIL MANN.

FIRST I HAVE TO ASK A QUESTION BECAUSE AT COMMITTEE, THERE WAS A REQUEST BEFORE THE STAFF WITH THE RIO DEN PIECE FOR THEM TO INVESTIGATE THE POTENTIAL OF DECOMMISSIONING THE BUILDING, REMOVING ALL THE CITY ASSETS, CONTACTING USER GROUPS TO REMOVE THEIR ASSETS AND THE FEASIBILITY OF A SMALLER STRUCTURE THERE.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE PUT FORWARD, SO I NOTICED THAT THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING, SO I ASSUME THAT STAFF WAS STILL LOOKING INTO THE REQUESTS FROM THE COMMITTEE TO COME BACK IN THE FUTURE.

PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THERE.

>> YOU'RE CORRECT. THAT REPORT WAS TAKEN OFF FOR THOSE REASONS THAT WE ARE GOING TO LOOK INTO MORE THINGS AND ONE OF THEM WAS TO TALK TO EVERYBODY THAT WE WERE RECOMMENDED TO TALK TO AND AS WELL AS TALKING TO THE ENGINEERS EXACTLY WITH COUNCIL PATRIE'S CONCERNS.

FROM WHAT I'M GETTING BACK JUST ON THE CONCERNS OF ENTRY TO THE BUILDING, IT WAS MORE REALLY BECAUSE WE HAD A DAYCARE IN THERE AND THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WERE IN THERE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME.

THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS THE USE OF CERTAIN ENTRANCE, HOW STAFF GO IN.

STAFF MEMBER USUALLY STAYS THERE WE'RE GRABBING SOMETHING AND WE'RE LEAVING. THEY'RE NOT TOO WORRIED.

THEY'RE STILL GIVING YOU IN A FIVE-YEAR LIFE ON IT.

BUT WE DID TAKE THE FACT OF WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE SPENDING ANY MONEY ON CAPITAL ON THE ROOF ON THAT.

THESE ARE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT AND I KNOW THAT MR. DANIEL COULD EXPAND ON THAT, BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY MOVING FORWARD WITH AND TALKING ABOUT.

>> CERTAINLY WE'RE RESEARCHING THAT, WE DON'T PLAN ON SPENDING ANOTHER DIME ON THAT BUILDING WE ARE MAKING EFFORTS TO ACCELERATE THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE.

I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL'S CONCERN IF THE PUBLIC IS NOT SAFE FOR THE PUBLIC, BUT THE STAFF AREN'T IN THERE 24/7, THEY'RE GOING IN AND DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO AND THEY'RE DEPARTING.

WE'RE MANAGING THE RISK AS RESPONSIBLY AS WE CAN.

WE ARE RESEARCHING ALTERNATIVES.

WHEN IT COMES TO FUNDING, THE NOHFC COULD FUND 50 PERCENT OF THE $300,000 DEHUMIDIFIER, BUT IT WOULD BE A WEAK APPLICATION AND WE'D BE LEAVING $1.7 MILLION ON THE TABLE.

WE WOULD PREFER TO SAVE OUR EFFORTS FOR A LARGER APPLICATION.

BUT IF COUNCIL WANTS US TO APPLY FOR A 50 CENT FUNDING FOR A $300,000 DEHUMIDIFIER THROUGH THE NOHFC, WE CAN TRY.

MR. ANTOUN IS REMINDING ME I MAY HAVE OVERSTATED THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES RIGHT NOW, ALTHOUGH ANOTHER ONE JUST CAME TO LIGHT LAST WEEK AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING INTO THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT AS A MANAGEMENT TEAM TOMORROW FOR FED NOR.

THE TRILLION FUND IS ANOTHER FUND, BUT THEY HAVEN'T ANNOUNCED THE INTAKE ISN'T AVAILABLE YET SO WE'RE REALLY JUST TALKING ABOUT THE NOHFC.

THERE'S A VERY MODEST 30 PERCENT FUND FROM THE RED PROGRAM WHICH WOULDN'T DO [INAUDIBLE] DEHUMIDIFIER.

WE WERE HOPING TO MAXIMIZE OUR APPLICATIONS, BUT IF COUNCIL WANTS US TO SPEND THAT MONEY OR THAT TICKET WITH THE NOHFC FOR THE DEHUMIDIFIER, WE CERTAINLY CAN.

WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT OPTIONS FOR THE RIO DEN,

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FOR A FUTURE SCENARIO, NOT THE RIO DEN ITSELF, BUT THE SITE TO MAXIMIZE AN ABILITY TO HAVE A STORAGE BUILDING AND A YOUTH CENTER PROGRAMMING OR WHAT NOT, BASED ON THE OTHER RECREATIONAL AMENITIES THAT ARE THERE.

WE'RE LOOKING INTO ALL THESE THINGS, BUT WE WILL LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY ON DEHUMIDIFIER, SO IF COUNCIL WANTS US TO APPLY TO THE NOHFC FOR THAT, FEEL FREE TO PASS THAT DIRECTION RIGHT NOW.

OTHERWISE, WE'LL KEEP RESEARCHING THAT OTHER FED NOR OPPORTUNITY AND WE'LL BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU ONCE THE PICTURE CLARIFIES ON OTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR REC EXISTING ASSETS.

>> COUNCIL PATRIE, HAD ALSO MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE WATER LINE RUNNING THROUGH.

>> THROUGH ELLIOT LAKE.

>> YEAH.

>> I'LL ANSWER ON THAT ONE BECAUSE THE WATERLINE RUNNING UNDER SO ORIGINALLY, AS EVERYONE KNOWS FOR REPORTS BROUGHT FORWARD BEFORE, WE'VE HAD TO REDUCE PRESSURES AND STUFF BECAUSE MOST OF THE CONCERNS ARE BROUGHT UP ON THE WATERLINE.

CURRENTLY, I BELIEVE THERE'S 12 CLAMPS FROM FIXES IN THE PAST AND NORMALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT A COST OF ANYWHERE FROM $10,000 -$12,000 TO HAVE DIVERS COME AND MOST TIMES WE'RE LUCKY THAT IT'S IN THE SUMMERTIME.

IN THE WINTER WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE TROUBLE THAT WAY.

BUT WE'VE BEEN ON IT FROM THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT.

IT'S BEEN ON US FROM THE WATER ASPECT TOO ABOUT CHLORINE GOING INTO THE ELLIOT LAKE, WHICH IS A NO-NO THEY DON'T LIKE THAT AS WELL. THEY WERE ALL OVER THAT.

YES, WE DID APPLY FOR THE GREEN FUNDING, ISO-GREEN FUNDING, AND NEVER GOT TURNED DOWN BECAUSE AS EVERYBODY REALIZES A LOT OF THOSE FUNDING APPLICATIONS, A LOT OF THEM WERE TAKEN BY THE INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING AND GOING TO DIFFERENT PLACES DOWN SOUTH FOR A LOT OF THEM.

WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WANTED REPLACED.

I UNDERSTAND THE FACT OF POSSIBLY GOING DOWN THE HIGHWAY, BUT ONE THING IT DOES DO IF WE REPLACED THE ONES ON THE LAKE REGARDLESS, IS WE REPLACE THOSE AND IF WE DO DECIDE TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN THE HIGHWAY IN THE FUTURE, IT GIVES US A FULL LOOP AND IT GIVES US TWO SECTIONS.

IF THERE EVER WAS A PROBLEM ON THE HIGHWAY, A BREAK OR A BREAK UNDER THE LAKE IN THE FUTURE, WE ALWAYS HAVE THE OTHER WATER COMING FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION TOO, AND IT KEEPS THE WATER A LOT FRESHER TOO, WHEN YOU'VE GOT THE FULL LOOP COMING AROUND THAT WAY AS WELL.

THESE ARE THINGS WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT BUT FURTHER RESEARCH IS NO PROBLEM WE'RE STILL AT A STAGE WHERE WE COULD DO THAT, BUT I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE MINISTRY HAS BEEN PRESSURING US BIG TIME ON.

>> THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH. ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS COUNCIL PATRIE?

>> I THINK THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS THAT'S I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BECAUSE I DO WANT US TO APPLY FOR THE FUNDING.

WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER SHOVEL-READY PROJECT BY THE END OF THE YEAR, SO I DON'T WANT TO SAVE A TICKET AND NOT USE IT.

IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE APPLYING FOR ANYTHING ELSE AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE IN THE BUDGET TO APPLY FOR BEFORE THERE'S AN ELECTION AND BEFORE THE FUNDING IS GONE LIKE THE PREVIOUS FUNDING APPLICATIONS, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FUNDING FOR THE HUB AND SO FORTH IS GONE.

THE FUNDING IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE.

I WOULD RATHER APPLY FOR STUFF THAT WE HAVE ON THE DOCKET AND USE THE APPLICATION, THAN TO JUST SPEND THE TAXPAYERS MONEY, WE MAY NOT WIN, WE MAY NOT GET IT.

AN AWFUL LOT OF OUR FUNDING APPLICATIONS WERE TURNED DOWN, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE'RE LEAVING $1.7 MILLION ON THE TABLE IF WE DON'T HAVE A TWO MILLION DOLLAR FIX TO DO ON OUR FACILITIES TO APPLY FOR, LET'S APPLY FOR WHAT WE DO HAVE ON THE TABLE.

AGAIN ON THE WATER MAIN ISSUE.

AS I SAID, WHEN THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO US, IT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BECAUSE WE WERE APPLYING FOR THE FUNDING WE DIDN'T WANT TO LOOK AT DOING THE LOOP AROUND ON THE HIGHWAY.

I WILL DO ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING APPLY FOR FUNDING IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.

IF WE CAN GET THAT SEWER LINE OUT OF OUR DRINKING WATER LAKE, I WOULD PREFER TO DO THAT.

I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT ADDING A LOOP BECAUSE IF WE CONTAMINATE THAT LAKE, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT WORSE OFF THAN ANYTHING.

COUNCILLOR PEARCE FOLLOWED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

>> THANK YOU. YOUR WORSHIP. YOU ASKED THE MAJOR QUESTION THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK WHICH IS CONCERNING RIO DEN BECAUSE.

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I DO RECALL THAT AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING, [NOISE] WE SPECIFICALLY GOT INTO THE QUESTION OF WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO SPEND ANY MONEY ON A BUILDING THAT WE ALL CONSIDER SHOULD BE CONTAMINATED AND CONDEMNED.

LET'S MOVE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN TO GET EVERYTHING OUT OF THERE.

TALK TO SOME OF THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE THINGS STORED IN THERE AND GET THEM OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

PUT A GREAT BIG SIGN ON A THING THAT SAYS,'' DO NOT ENTER'', AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

AS FAR AS THE SUPERIOR LINE UNDERNEATH ELLIOT LAKE, I TEND TO AGREE WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE ON THIS ONE.

I HAVE VERY GENUINE CONCERNS.

I KNOW THAT MR. HALLOCH AND HIS CREW HAVE BEEN CHECKING THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

BUT WELL TO USE AN EXPRESSION, THINGS HAPPEN.

WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE'S A HOLE IN THAT SEWER PIPE.

I MEAN, GOD FORBID, WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER DISASTER IN THIS COMMUNITY. WE'VE HAD ENOUGH.

I WOULD STRONGLY URGE THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT FINDING A WAY TO GET THOSE PIPES OUT OF ELLIOT LAKE, RUN THEM THROUGH THE GROUND.

I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

AS FOR THE FUNDING, I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHERE COUNCILLOR PATRIE IS COMING FROM, I JUST THINK IT'S A BIT MISGUIDED.

I THINK THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO APPLY FOR FUNDING ON A MAJOR PROJECT, INCLUDING THE ARTS HUB, FOR ONE THING.

THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO GET TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF GRANTS, $150,000 OF OVER $2 MILLION GRANT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I REALLY WANT TO DO.

IF WE CAN GET $2 MILLION ON A PROJECT, LET'S GET THE $2 MILLION.

I'M NOT SURE IF COUNCILLOR PATRIE IS WILLING TO BREAK HIS MOTION INTO THREE SEPARATE MOTIONS BECAUSE I COULD CERTAINLY VOTE FOR TWO OF THEM, BUT I COULDN'T VOTE FOR THE THIRD. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. WORSHIP. I JUST WANTED TO JUMP AHEAD TO ANOTHER REPORT THAT WE HAVE IN HERE ABOUT OUR FACILITIES AND THE MECHANICAL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

IF WE WERE TO GO AFTER MONEY, I WOULD RATHER GIVE DIRECTION TO STUFF TO LOOK AT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS IS REGULAR MAINTENANCE, HOW MUCH OF THIS IS ESSENTIAL, HOW MUCH IS STUFF ON THIS LIST THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED NOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SCHEDULE OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

IT'S NOT SO MUCH OF A TAX BURDEN, BUT IF WE WERE TO GO AFTER, IT'S $1.44 MILLION WORTH OF MECHANICAL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON OUR FACILITIES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP OPEN NOW.

IF WE COULD GO AFTER THAT FUNDING FOR ALL OF THESE TOGETHER IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE AND SEEN LOOK AT.

IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO USE THIS TO LEVERAGE MONEY TOWARDS I THINK WHAT SOME OF THE INTENTIONS OF SOME OF OUR COUNCILORS IS TOWARDS THE SPORTS HUB AND LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVE THAT'S GOING TO BE TALKED ABOUT FURTHER ON IN THE AGENDA.

I JUST THOUGHT THAT WE'VE GOT ALL THESE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS ESSENTIAL, WHAT IS MAINTENANCE THAT WE THINK WE NEED TO DO, OR IF ALL OF THESE PROJECTS NEED TO BE DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BEFORE WE HAVE ANOTHER CATASTROPHIC THING HAPPEN TO THE ARENA OR TO THE POOL THAT WE ARE DOING WITHOUT THEM, PERIOD.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO SEE IF WE NEED TO LEVERAGE FUNDING, NOT JUST FOR THE ONE THING FOR THE POOL, IF WE COULD DO MOST OF IT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD USE OF THAT FUNDING.

>> MR. GAYNIEL

>> YEAH. THAT'S WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING.

IT'S JUST THE QUESTION OF WE NEED SOME DIRECTION ON THE HUB.

DO YOU WANT TO REPAIR THE OLD BUILDINGS? OR WE ADD A REAL DOWNSTAGE WITH OUR POOL AND OUR ARENA. I DO AGREE.

WE COULD GROUP SOME OF THESE TOGETHER AND HAVE A MORE COMPELLING CASE THAN THAT $300,000 DEHUMIDIFIER IF WE JUST GET A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.

WHAT WE COULD DO IS TAKE THE DEHUMIDIFIER PROCUREMENT AND SEE HOW FAR WE CAN DELAY THAT A LITTLE AND THEN HAVE A REPORT TO COUNCIL, AT SOME POINT TO SAY,'' IT'S WORTH IT IF WE CAN PACKAGE IT ALL TOGETHER.'' I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE NOHFC DOESN'T REQUIRE US TO BE SHOVEL-READY FOR THE TWO MILLION.

WE COULD APPLY FOR LOTS OF THINGS.

IT'S NOT SO MUCH ABOUT SHOVEL-READINESS, IT'S ABOUT THE NARRATIVE AND THE COMPELLING CASE THAT YOU CAN PULL TOGETHER TO SAY, ''WE NEED THE MONEY TO REPAIR OUR EXISTING FACILITIES AND THAT'LL GET US MORE TIME TO SAVE FOR A NEW HUB", BUT UNTIL WE GET THAT CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL DONE WITH THE PUBLIC INPUT, WE'RE DROPPING AHEAD TO MY NEXT REPORT.

WE'RE RUNNING A LITTLE BIT DARK BUT IF WE TAKE THE PROCUREMENT OF THE DEHUMIDIFIER OFFLINE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BUY OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO STILL BE ABLE TO GET THE PROCUREMENT IN SO THAT WE CAN STILL HAVE A DEHUMIDIFIER OPERATING IN OUR POOL AND

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THEN STILL HAVE A FUNDING OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN STITCH TOGETHER WITH OTHER THEMES AND GET IT TOGETHER BUT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SOLVE THAT QUITE TONIGHT.

BUT SOON IN THE NEAR YOUR FUTURE.

>> FOLLOW-UP COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

>> THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR.

I JUST FEEL THAT WE'RE ALWAYS CHASING LOOKING FOR FUNDING.

WE HAVE SOME HERE AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE OUT ON IT AND HAVE IT GO BY AND I SAY NEXT YEAR, WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT. THAT'S ALL.

>> THAT DOESN'T CHANGE MY RESOLUTION IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT.

IF WE CAN GET TWO MILLION, TAKE THE TWO MILLION, AND IF WE CAN APPLY FOR IT AS A PACKAGE.

IT PROBABLY IS A LOT MORE SELLABLE TO NOHFC THAT WE ARE FACILITATING REPAIRS AT MULTIPLE FACILITIES, SO IT'S A BETTER SELL FOR THEM TO GRANT US THAT MONEY AS WELL.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO SPEND $300,000 AND NOT APPLY.

WE'VE GOT TO START TO GET SOME GRANT APPLICATIONS INTO THE PROVINCE TO START TO GET SOME MONEY.

THE WAY THAT I'VE WORDED MY RESOLUTION ALLOWS STAFF TO BE ABLE TO BRING BACK THAT APPLICATION TO ENCOMPASS ALL OF THE FACILITIES.

FOR MR. GAGNON'S COMMENT REGARDLESS, EVEN IF WE DO END UP BEING ABLE TO GET FUNDING AND MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR RECREATIONAL HUB, WE'RE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN REPAIRS AWAY FROM A NEW FACILITY BEING OPENED TO BE OPERATED.

I THINK THAT WE STILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO SPEND MONEY ON THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AND APPLY FOR ANY GRANTS POSSIBLE TO GET US THROUGH UNTIL SOMETHING NEW IS OPEN.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE AMENDMENT? MISS BRAY CAN YOU READ ME THE AMENDMENT.

PLEASE DO SO I CALL FOR A VOTE.

>> OF COURSE. I BELIEVE I'VE CAPTURED IT.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE, IF I'VE MISSED ANYTHING, PLEASE CORRECT ME.

THAT STAFF BE DIRECTED TO APPLY FOR FUNDING TOWARDS THE POOL DEHUMIDIFIER PROJECT THROUGH NOHFC AND THAT NO FURTHER FUNDS BE SPENT ON THE ROOF OF THE RIO DEN ARENA UNTIL A FULL REPORT HAS BEEN BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL AND THAT THE REPLACEMENT OF THE SANITARY LINE FROM [INAUDIBLE] POLICE STATION BE PUT ON HOLD FOR FURTHER RESEARCH.

>> OKAY. ROLL CALL VOTE.

STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

>> IN ANOTHER WORRYING, I DON'T LIKE THAT MR. DANIEL MAKES ME FEEL SAFE THAT WE CAN ROLL OTHER THINGS INTO THAT GRANT APPLICATIONS, SO I'LL BE IN FAVOR, THAT'S CARRIED.

[NOISE] THE MOTION AS AMENDED IS BASICALLY RECEIVING THIS REPORT ALONG WITH THE STIPULATIONS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I HAD A COMMENT AND I TOLD SOMEBODY I WOULD SAY IT.

LAST TUESDAY AFTER OUR COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE MR. HULLOCH WHO SPENT ABOUT SIX HOURS READING THE DETAILED REPORT, I HAD A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC COME UP TO ME AND SAY, "YOU TELL THAT DARRELL, THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE HIM, HE IS WORTH EVERY PENNY YOU PAY HIM." THERE YOU GO, MOM, I'VE TOLD HIM.

WE'RE GOOD TO GO. [LAUGHTER]

>> [INAUDIBLE] THANKS. [LAUGHTER]

>> THAT WILL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE AS EMBEDDED. COUNCILOR FINAMORE?

>> I JUST HAD A QUESTION AROUND THE ADDITIONAL LANE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION SINCE THE MEETING YOU SAID, I DIDN'T KNOW IF HE MEANT NEXT WEEK OR IT WAS THIS WEEK ABOUT THE DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT BUDGET PROCESS FOR THIS PROJECT? I GOT STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, IT'S VERY UNCOMFORTABLE TO BE THERE WHEN THE LIGHT CHANGES AND YOU HAVE NOWHERE TO GO AND EVERYBODY'S STUCK.

>> WHAT I'VE DONE SO FAR JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

YEAH, I TALKED TO THE ENGINEERS AFTERWARDS BECAUSE AT FIRST, LIKE I SAID, WHEN WE WERE GETTING QUOTES BACK IN 2018, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I FIRST BROUGHT UP.

THERE WAS A LOT OF QUOTES COMING IN FROM CONTRACTORS, BUT TO ME, THERE'S DEFINITELY A DESIGN ENGINEERING.

ANOTHER THING THAT ASPECT OF IT IS THERE'S WATER.

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WATER LATERAL ARE MAINLY GOING FROM SO ACROSS TO [INAUDIBLE].

THESE ARE THINGS THAT I'VE TALKED TO THEM.

BECAUSE WE'D BE LOOKING UNTIL AT LEAST DESIGN ON THIS PART OF IT SO I CAN GET A BETTER COST.

I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT IT, I BUDGETED FOR A 135,000 AT THIS POINT.

I JUST WANT A BETTER FEEL OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

BECAUSE RIGHT AWAY THAT I'D SAY, LET'S START ON THE DESIGN, GET THE TENDER ON AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT DONE THIS YEAR.

[NOISE]

>> OH, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. GOOD. GREAT. THANK YOU.

COUNCILLOR CYR, FINAL COMMENT?

>> NO, IT'S NOT A COMMENT. I JUST WANT THE REREADING OF THE RESOLUTION AS AMENDED BEFORE WE VOTE.

>> THAT THE SECOND QUARTER CAPITAL PROJECT'S UPDATE MEMO BE RECEIVED AND THAT STAFF BE DIRECTED TO APPLY FOR FUNDING TOWARDS THE FULL DEHUMIDIFIER PROJECTS THROUGH NAOHFC, AND THAT NO FURTHER FUNDS BE SPENT ON THE ROOF OF THE [INAUDIBLE] BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL.

THAT THE REPLACEMENT WITH AN ANTERIOR LINE FROM [INAUDIBLE] BE PUT ON HOLD FOR FURTHER RESEARCH.

>> OKAY. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE?

>> ARE WE VOTING?

>> OH, YES, SORRY. [LAUGHTER] COUNCILLOR FINAMORE?

>> IN FAVOR. [LAUGHTER]

>> I'M IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.

[NOISE] THERE'S NO OVERSIGHT BOARD OR COMMITTEE REPORTING THIS EVENING.

NUMBER 9; UNFINISHED BUSINESS;

[9. UNFINISHED BUSINESS]

9.1 COMMUNITY RECREATION HUB UPDATE STANDING ITEM; 9.1.1, REPORT FROM THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER, PUBLIC TOWN HALL MEETING FOR INPUT INTO RECREATION AND WELLNESS HUB.

MY COMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE CAO DATED JUNE 22ND, 2021 BE RECEIVED, IF THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE FORMAT PROCESS RELATED TO SEEKING PUBLIC INPUT INTO THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE PROPOSED RECREATION AND WELLNESS HUB, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, A PUBLIC TOWN HALL, AND THAT STAFF BE AUTHORIZED TO RESEARCH AND PRESENT INFORMATION, PREFABRICATED STRUCTURES, AS WELL AS EXISTING PLANS FOR TRADITIONAL CONSTRUCTION AT THE TOWN HALL MEETING.

A MOVER, PLEASE.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR CYR, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

MR. DANIEL, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE?

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. WE TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, THE DIRECTION AT THE LAST MEETING, AND WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING AS COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY IN ALWAYS WITH HOW TO MAINTAIN THESE BUILDINGS.

WE HAVE SOME LARGE DECISIONS THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO MAKE HIM NEAR FUTURE.

THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF EVOLVING MORE PUBLIC INPUT INTO THAT PROCESS.

IN MY REPORT TRIED TO SPELL OUT WHAT A TOWN HALL WOULD LOOK LIKE, THAT WE WOULD SCHEDULE A LITTLE LATER IN JULY OR EARLY AUGUST, TO GET A PROPER TIME TO PROPERLY ADVERTISE TO THE PUBLIC.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MANAGE THIS, AND FOR BOTH THE COMMUNITY WHO AREN'T ZOOM FRIENDLY OR INTERNET SAVVY.

FOR SO WE NEED A HARD COPY MANUAL PROCESS AND ALSO ON ZOOM OR ONLINE POLL PROCESS.

QUITE POSSIBLY BY LATE JULY OR EARLY AUGUST WE'RE IN STAGE 3, OR AT LEAST HAVE HOPEFULLY MORE FLEXIBILITY.

STAGE 2 BEGINS IN A COUPLE OF DAYS.

IF WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO HAVE SOME FORM OF IN-PERSON AND HYBRID WILL CERTAINLY EXPLORE THAT, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS ADVERTISE THE TOWN HALL AND THE INPUT PROCESS.

WE WOULD PROVIDE SOME BRIEFING MATERIAL THAT WOULD CO-LEAD ALL THE RESEARCH THAT WE'VE DONE TO DATE AND TRY TO SPELL IT OUT FOR THE PUBLIC SO THAT WE CAN GARNER SOME INPUT, THAT COUNCIL COULD GARNER SOME INPUT.

WE WOULD DO THAT AT A STAFF LEVEL.

WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS NOT A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING AND NOT WITH ALL THE POMP AND CIRCUMSTANCE, THE AGENDAS AND MINUTES, WE WANT IT TO BE INFORMAL AND EASYGOING, AND ROBUST COMMUNICATION OR REACH.

THEN I MENTIONED THAT THE PREFABRICATED STRUCTURE IS SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THOSE TYPES OF BUILDINGS AND QUITE SOME TIME AND STAFF STARTED RESEARCHING THAT.

I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE A TOWN HALL WITH INFORMATION THAT COUNCIL WASN'T EVEN AWARE OF.

WE GAVE YOU SOME INPUT AND IN THAT REPORT SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE THAT TOWN HALL AND WE COLLATE ALL THAT INPUT TO GET IT BACK TO COUNCIL THAT YOU'RE AWARE THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT OTHER TYPES OF BUILDING STRUCTURES, INCLUDING PRE-ENGINEERING STRUCTURES WHICH COULD SAVE MONEY.

BUT THERE ARE PROS AND CONS AND WE WOULD OUTLINE ALL AS BEST WE CAN WITH THE PUBLIC.

THEN FEED THAT INTO A PIVOTAL SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING

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OR SOMETHING OF THE SORT LATER THIS SUMMER, WHICH WOULD BE A GOOD SEGUE INTO THE 2021-2022 BUDGET PROCESS AND GIVE US SOME OF THAT DIRECTION THAT WE NEED FOR THOSE FUNDING APPLICATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

JUST ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE, WE TRY TO LAY OUT FOR YOU IN THE NEXT STAFF REPORT.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS, BUT THEY'RE ALL RELATED TO THAT.

>> THANK YOU, MR. DANIEL, I BELIEVE YOU ENCOMPASS THE DIRECTION REQUESTS OF COUNCIL FROM LAST MEETING AS FAR AS TRYING TO GET PUBLIC INPUT IN LOOKING AT AS MANY DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AS POSSIBLE, AND GIVING THE COMMUNITY AS MUCH ABILITY IN DIFFERENT VENUES TO PROVIDE THEIR INPUT IN AND TAKE LOOK IN THIS.

I APPRECIATE IT. ASK COUNCIL IF THERE'S QUESTIONS, COMMENTS WITH THIS REPORT. COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

>> JUST I'VE AN ISSUE WITH AN OPEN-ENDED RESOLUTION THAT SAYS, BUT NOT LIMITED TO.

VIRTUALLY STAFF CAN GO AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T TRUST STAFF.

I TOTALLY GET WHAT STAFF IS GOING TO DO, TRY AND DO A TOWN HALL MEETING IN WHATEVER FORM WE CAN DO DEPENDING ON WHAT WE CAN DO IT.

I JUST DON'T LIKE THE WORDING IN THERE THAT SAYS, BUT NOT LIMITED TO.

THAT'S TOTALLY OPEN.

THERE'S NO BUDGET UNLESS WE ADD THE BUDGET THAT'S IN THE FINANCIAL ASPECT AT THE BACK END OF THE REPORT TO SAY THAT IT'S A LIMITED BUDGET OF $2,000 AND I DON'T WANT TO HANDCUFF THEM BECAUSE IF THEY'VE GOT A SPENT 2,500 AND 2,800 TO GET THIS TOWN HALL AND WE GET THE DOCUMENTATION AND WHATEVER IS REQUIRED FOR THE TOWN HALL TO GET ALL THE PROPER INFORMATION TOGETHER.

I DON'T WANT TO TIE THEM TO THAT EITHER.

I WOULD PREFER TO JUST DO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND REMOVE INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO.

THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL, WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT FORWARD, WAS TO DO A TOWN HALL MEETING AND I THINK WE SHOULD JUST DO IT AS THAT IN THE RESOLUTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE MOVER AND SECONDER ARE AMENDABLE TOO.

FINALLY REMEMBER TO REMOVE THAT PORTION.

>> I'M SEEING IT. MAYBE MR. DANIEL (PHONETIC) CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT BETTER THE [INAUDIBLE] TOO.

>> THAT'S MAYBE I'VE JUST BEEN SPENT TOO MUCH TIME WITH THE LAWYERS, BUT ALL THAT WAS INTENDED TO SAY IS THAT, YES, WE'LL HAVE A TOWN HALL BUT IF WE WANT TO HAVE AN ONLINE POLL, THAT'S NOT A TOWN HALL, SO WE MIGHT AS WELL HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE AN ONLINE POLL FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO PROVIDE AN ONLINE POLL OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF VENUE FOR PUBLIC CONSULTATION NOT TO REPLACE THE TOWN HALL.

IN ADDITION TO THE TOWN HALL, MAYBE THERE'S SOME OTHER WAY WE COULD WORDSMITH IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TOWN HALL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE VARIOUS OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET CARRIED AWAY ON COST.

IT'LL ALL COME BACK TO COUNCIL ANYWAY, BUT IT'S UP TO THE MOVERS AND SECONDER.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. DANIEL, I DO KNOW THE LAST TIME AROUND THERE WHEN WE ARE SEEKING PUBLIC INPUT, THERE WAS VARIOUS DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WAS DONE.

THERE WAS THE ONLINE POLL, BUT THERE WAS ALSO SUGGESTION STATIONS.

THERE WERE BOXES THAT WERE OWNED BY THE CITY THAT WERE PUT AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AROUND THE COMMUNITY WITH INFORMATION BOARD AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WERE ABLE TO WRITE DOWN THEIR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.

WHEN THE TOWN HALL CAME AND COUNSEL GOT BACK UNDER, ALL THESE QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED.

THERE'S MULTIPLE DIFFERENT VENUES FOR THOSE THAT MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO USE, ZOOM OR ATTEND IN PERSON.

IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT TIME.

I'M HOPING THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT.

DID I SEE ANOTHER HAND UP? COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP. TO MR. DANIEL.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU'LL BE SENDING A MAIL OR LIKE WE DO MONTHLY WITH AS MUCH INFORMATION AS YOU CAN THAT WE HAVE ABOUT THE SPORTS HUB AND WHAT OPTIONS ARE, SO THE PEOPLE HAVE THE INFORMATION PRIOR TO THE TOWN HALL AND I HOPE THAT YOU DO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE LISTED.

I HOPE THAT NOT LIMITED TO JUST THE PUBLIC TOWN HALL MEETING THAT YOU DO TRY TO REACH OUT TO AS MANY AS WE CAN.

BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, NOT EVERYONE HAS THE SAME CAPABILITIES TO DO COMMUNICATION THESE DAYS AS WE'VE LEARNED.

BUT WE'VE ALSO LEARNT THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT IN THE LAST YEAR.

I HOPE WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

THAT WAY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE MESSAGE OUT AS BEST WE CAN.

>> COUNCIL MANN.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED WITH THIS ITEM BY MR. DANIEL.

I THINK THE REAL WORLD OF COUNCIL TONIGHT IS TO HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION IN 9.12.

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I THINK THAT'S WHERE REALLY OUR WORK BEGINS.

IN SOME WAYS THIS ITEM COULD HAVE BEEN SECOND AND WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION FIRST.

BUT EITHER WAY, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH MR. DANIEL'S APPROACH, MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE, WHAT WOULD BE THE TIMING OF THIS WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ANTICIPATED TIMING OF THIS KIND OF INFORMATION SESSION MOVING FORWARD?

>> I HAD IN MIND LATE AUGUST BUT PROBABLY I'M SORRY, LATE JULY OR EARLY AUGUST.

PROBABLY EARLY AUGUST IS MORE REALISTIC, BUT WE WOULD SPEND THE MONTH OF JULY AND GETTING INFORMATION OUT LEADING UP TO AN EARLY AUGUST TOWN HALL, WHICH WOULD BE THE CULMINATION OF ALL OF THE VARIOUS OPPORTUNITIES.

THEN MID TO LATE AUGUST COUNCIL REVIEW MEET BEFORE WE GET INTO BUDGET IN SEPTEMBER.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR TURNER.

>> THANK YOU. WORSHIP. JUST FOR CLARITY FOR THE PUBLIC WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, THEN IS A TOWN HALL WHERE PEOPLE CAN OFFER SOME INPUT AND GET QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND GET MORE CLARITY AS TO WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE.

WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH A REFERENDUM HERE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISSEMINATE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC AND HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, WHAT POTENTIAL COSTS ARE.

THEY WALK AWAY WITH A GOOD UNDERSTANDING, WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. I WILL MAKE A POINT IN THAT REPORT.

ALL OF THIS IS COMPLETELY UNSCIENTIFIC AND WE WILL DO THE BEST WE CAN TO REACH AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.

BUT IT ALL COMES DOWN TO A GUT FEEL THAT THE SEVEN MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS BUT AT LEAST HAVING THIS PROCESS, COUNCIL WILL BE COMFORTABLE THAT STAFF AND COUNSELORS DID THE BEST THEY COULD TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY WAS UPDATED AND HAD RELEVANT, UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION AND AT THAT POINT NEED TO PROVIDE THEIR INPUT.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE TOWN HALL.

THEY CAN PICK UP THE PHONE AND E-MAIL ANY SEVEN OF YOU ANYTIME.

BUT NOW AT LEAST WILL ALL BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH TO ENSURE THE PUBLIC WAS EDUCATED BEFORE THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE.

IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO HAVE A FULL SCIENTIFIC REFERENDUM, THE BEST TIME TO DO THAT IS THAT ELECTION TIME WITH QUESTION ON THE BALLOT.

OTHERWISE, YOU'RE BASICALLY HAVING AN ELECTION OUTSIDE OF ELECTION TIME THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO REFERENDUM, WHICH SENSING IS VERY SERIOUS.

WE'LL DO THIS BEST WE CAN.

IT'S AS GOOD AS IT'S GOING TO GET FOR THIS TYPE OF MAJOR DECISION FOR COUNSEL.

>> THANK YOU. VARIABLY WE GET THE BIG BUCKS TO MAKE DECISIONS. THANKS.

>> IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COUNCILLOR CYR?

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP. I WOULD LIKE THAT QUESTION PUT FORWARD TO THE PUBLIC THOUGH JUST FOR WHETHER MOST OF THEM WOULD PREFER TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A SAY IN IT.

SOME KIND OF PLEBISCITE OR AT THE ELECTIONS OR YOU SAID THE WORD ESCAPES ME THERE, BUT REFERENDUM.

I JUST LIKE TO GET THAT FEELING ACROSS TO SEE WHAT THE MOOD OF THE COMMUNITY IS REGARDING THOSE IDEAS.

SO I THINK IT'D BE GOOD FOR US TO PUT A FEELER OUT.

>> IT'S FINE. WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S AN OPTION AND IT'S OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND AND PROVIDE COMMENTS ON.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED REPORT? OKAY. SEEING NONE, I WILL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE STARTED WITH COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

>> WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON SORRY? IN FAVOR SORRY. YEP. GOT IT.

>> IN FAVOR COUNCILLOR MANN.

THANK YOU. 9.12 REFERRAL FROM THE AD HOC COMMUNITY.

HOC COMMITTEE FROM MAY 10TH.

I'M ALMOST BELIEVING THAT THIS IS A MOOT POINT UNTIL THE TOWN HALL TAKES PLACE.

>> WOULD YOU WANT A DEFERRAL?

>> IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION UNTIL AFTER THE TOWN HALL TAKES PLACE, SO I WOULD REQUEST A DEFERRAL MOVED BY COUNCILOR FINAMORE, SECONDED BY COUNSELOR MANN THAT THIS ITEM BE DEFERRED UNTIL AFTER THE TOWN HALL MEETING HAS TAKEN PLACE AND REPORT COMES BACK.

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>> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO IT'S GOT TO BE A DATE THAT WOULD BE SPECIFIC, TIME.

>> DATE SPECIFIC, MR. DANIEL, DATE SPECIFIC.

>> MAYBE THE SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST AND THEN THAT GIVES US PLENTY OF TIME TO SEE IT COMING AND GET THE TOWN EARLIER AND EARLIER.

>> I'M GOOD WITH THE MOVER, SECONDER? GOOD STUFF. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON DEFERRAL, COUNSELOR PATRICK.

>> ON THE DEFERRAL, YOU'RE DEFERRING THE ENTIRE REPORT OR WE'RE JUST DEFERRING THE RESOLUTION? BECAUSE AS DISCUSSED EARLIER ON THE OTHER ITEM WITH PUBLIC SERVICES, DO WE JUST NEED DIRECTION TO STAFF IF THEY'RE GOING TO APPLY FOR FUNDING FOR THIS $1.44 MILLION OR IF THEY CAN INCREASE THAT NUMBER TO CLOSER TO THE TWO MILLION, IS DIRECTION TO STAFF FINE OR SHOULD WE BE DISCUSSING THIS REPORT PRIOR? [OVERLAPPING]

>> ARE YOU ASKING IF THIS AMOUNT BE INCLUDED IN THE OVERALL NOHFC FUNDING REQUEST?

>> I'M ASKING IF WE'RE DEFERRING THE DISCUSSION ON THAT HAPPENING, YES.

I DON'T WANT TO DEFER THIS ENTIRE ITEM IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.

I WANT TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION OF THE $1.4 MILLION WORTH OF MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS THAT WE HAVE TO DO TO OUR FACILITIES OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

BUT THAT CAN BE TIGHTENED UP TO A MUCH SHORTER TIMEFRAME IF WE GET FUNDING.

>> SORRY, COUNCILLOR PATRIE, IT'S WRONG REPORT. WE'RE AT 9.12.

IT'S THE AMENDMENT SCOPE OF WORK FUNDING APPLICATION FOR THE REC HUB THAT WE'RE DEFERRING.

>> IT'S NOT ALL ONE REPORT?

>> NO.

>> I'M FINE WITH IT THEN.

>> THE WAY THAT MY DOCUMENTATION READ [INAUDIBLE] IT WAS ALL ONE REPORT.

>> IT'S LIKE A FLOW. IT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD TO CLEAR THAT UP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE DEFERRAL? NONE. NOW ROLL-CALL STARTING WITH COUNCIL PATRIE.

>> OKAY. COUNCIL MANN.

>> FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR CYR.

>> I'M IN FAVOR. THAT'S DEFERRED UNTIL A SECOND MEETING OF AUGUST.

9.1.3, REPORT OF THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER MECHANICAL WORK RECOMMENDED TO MUNICIPAL FACILITIES.

THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER DATED JUNE 27TH, 2021 BE RECEIVED.

CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, SECONDED BY COUNSELOR CYR, AND MR. GAGNON.

>> YES. THIS IS COSTS THAT WE'VE HAD AND ANALYZED FOR THE MECHANICAL PLANTS OF OUR THREE EXISTING BUILDING.

FOR SOME REASON THE REPORT WAS DRAFTED BUT NEVER GOT ON THE COUNCIL'S RADAR UNTIL NOW, SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS OBVIOUSLY RELEVANT TO THE FUTURE OF TOWN HALL, IT'S RELEVANT TO THE FUTURE POTENTIAL FUNDING APPLICATION.

THESE COSTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN BUILT IN WITH THE TREASURER INTO FORECASTS FOR RESERVES AND MUNICIPAL BUDGETING PURPOSES, SO THAT WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND THE STATE OF BASICALLY THE INNARDS OF OUR RECREATION FACILITIES.

WE KNOW WHAT THE ROOF WAS ON THE ARENA WHEN WE MAKE THE INVESTMENT IN 2019.

THIS IS A BIT OF A FORECAST OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WHAT THE COST WOULD BE FOR OUR EXISTING FACILITIES.

JUMPING AHEAD TOO, I'M ASSUMING THE QUESTION WHICH IS YES, THIS IS VERY GOOD MATERIAL FOR A FUNDING APPLICATION TO THE NOHFC, BUT WE DON'T KNOW YET HOW THEY WILL VIEW STITCHING IT ALL TOGETHER AND HOPING THAT THEY WOULD DO THAT.

I THINK MR. ANTUNES AND I HAVE ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS AND IT MIGHT BE A CHALLENGE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER FUNDERS OUT THERE AS WELL AND WE WILL KEEP BEATING THE BUSHES ON.

THIS IS JUST SIMPLY FOR INFORMATION, BUT THIS INFORMATION WILL BE VERY HANDY, OF COURSE, FOR FUNDING APPLICATIONS OR THE TOWN HALL SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND THE STATE OF THE INTERIOR OF OUR BUILDINGS.

THEN THERE'S A GIANT QUESTION MARK WHICH IS THE FLOOR OF THE ARENA.

IT IS CIRCA 1968, WHEN IT WAS BUILT.

THAT COULD BE A VERY COSTLY REPAIR IF IT WAS A CATASTROPHIC FAILURE IN THE AREA OF THREE-QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS.

IF IT HAPPENS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON, IT'S ALSO PROBLEMATIC.

WE'RE HOPING IF THAT EVER DOES GO IT WILL BE IN THE SUMMERTIME, BUT OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN'T PLAN THESE THINGS.

[LAUGHTER] YEAH, THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL.

>> THANK YOU, MR. GAGNON. I NOTICED SO IN REPORT HAS LAID OUT YEAR BY YEAR UP TO 2025 TIDBITS,

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BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MET INSPECTION REPORT.

WE HAVE WITH THE CENTENNIAL ARENA, A TOTAL OF 1.5 MILLION FOLLOWED BY THE POOL, A TOTAL OF 852,000, AND THE ARENA 270,000, SO THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT.

IN THE PROJECTED AMOUNTS YEAR OVER YEAR, ARE WE LEAVING OUT SOME OF THE LARGER COSTS LIKE THE ICE SURFACE, POTENTIALLY? I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE LEAVING OUT TO HAVE THE SMALLER NUMBERS YEAR-OVER-YEAR, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $2 1/2 MILLION PROJECTED COSTS HERE.

>> WHILE WE'RE ASSUMING WE'RE NOT ENTIRELY SURE BOTH THE FLOOR AT 750, IT COULD GO [INAUDIBLE] ANOTHER FIVE YEARS OR IT COULD GO TOMORROW.

WE HAD THAT ONE AS A MAYBE, PROBABLY, BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THE BIGGER PICTURE OF THIS.

THEN SOME OF THESE INVESTMENTS CAN BE TRANSPORTED TO A NEW FACILITY.

IF WE JUST BOUGHT A BRAND NEW CHILLER THIS YEAR, CHILLER OR COMPRESSOR, I GET THE TERMS WRONG, BUT WE BASICALLY MADE $80,000 INVESTMENT IN THE CENTENNIAL ARENA.

IF WE WERE TO BUILD A NEW ARENA IN THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR YEARS, WE CAN TAKE THAT CHILLER AND TRANSPORT IT OVER AND RECYCLE IT AND USE IT WITHOUT ANY COMPROMISE.

IT'S NOT A 20-YEAR-OLD CHILLER, IT'S ONLY AT THAT TIME ONE OR TWO-YEAR-OLD CHILLER.

SOME OF THE INVESTMENTS ARE INGRAINED INTO THAT PLANT AND CAN NEVER BE REMOVED LIKE THE FLOOR, BUT THE OTHER PARTS MIGHT BE PORTABLE.

EITHER WAY, WE'RE LOOKING AT SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN THE EXISTING FACILITIES, AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH NEW ONES.

THIS IS THE CRUX OF OUR TOWN HALL AND WHAT'S IN FRONT OF COUNCIL IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS OR SO.

>> I SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE ELECTRICAL OR PLUMBING.

BY PLUMBING, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE PLUMBING IN THE POOL IN THE ARENA, YES, THE MAJOR FACILITY, BUT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE OTHER TYPE PLUMBING ISSUES.

THERE COULD BE OTHER FAILURES THAT CAN SHOW UP OF COURSE, BUT WE'VE LOOKED AT THE STRUCTURE, NOW WE'VE LOOKED AT THE PLANTS, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD START ANYWAY.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THIS ALSO DOES NOT INCLUDE UPDATING OF DRESSING ROOMS, MAKING BETTER SEATING AT THE ARENA, THE DECK AT THE POOL, MAKING THE VIEWING AREA AT THE POOL MORE USER-FRIENDLY OR ANY UPGRADES SUCH AS THAT.

THIS IS JUST PURELY MECHANICAL WORK IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN TO KEEP THE DOORS OPEN.

THIS IS NOTHING LIKE BRINGING IT INTO THIS CENTURY OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS.

THIS IS JUST THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE FACILITIES.

>> THIS IS JUST KEEPING WHAT YOU SEE TODAY IS OPERATING, CONTINUING TO OPERATE AS THERE'S NO IMPROVEMENT WHATSOEVER.

IT'S JUST KEEP THE LIGHTS ON, KEEP THE BASIC FUNCTIONALITY GOING.

KEEP IT SAFE, OF COURSE, BUT YEAH, KEEP IT OPEN.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILLOR PATRIE?

>> I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO TIE IT TO THE OTHER ONES.

ADD TO THE RECOMMENDATION AND FUNDING APPLICATIONS BE SOUGHT THROUGH THE PROVINCE.

>> MR. GAGNON.

>> IT FINE. JUST I WON'T LIMIT IT TO THE PROVINCE TO SAVE SENIOR LEVELS OR WHATEVER.

>> SURE.

>> OKAY. SECONDARY FOR THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILLOR MANN, THANK YOU.

FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS WITH THE AMENDMENT? WERE ALL GOOD WITH ASKING SENIOR GOVERNMENT FOR FUNDS.

I'LL CALL FOR ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. COUNCILLOR TURNER.

>> I'M IN FAVOR. THE AMENDMENT IS CARRIED.

NOW BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION AS AMENDED.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR POTENTIAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REPORT? I'M NOT SEEING ANY MOTION AS AMENDED.

THAT'S FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

THE MOTION WAS ORIGINALLY TO RECEIVE AND ADDING COUNCILLOR PATRIE'S AMENDMENT.

MS. BRAY, CAN YOU READ THAT TO US, PLEASE?

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>> THANK YOU. THAT THE REPORT OF THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER DATED JUNE 22ND, 2021 BE RECEIVED AND THAT FUNDING APPLICATIONS BE SOUGHT THROUGH UPPER LEVELS OF [NOISE] GOVERNMENT.

>> THANK YOU. ROLL CALL STARTING WITH COUNCILOR FINAMORE?

9.2, ARTS AND CULTURE HUB UPDATE; 9.2.1, MEMO FROM THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER.

WE, ARTS HUB, UPDATED THE DESIGN.

THIS DOESN'T REQUIRE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL, MR. GAGNON.

IT WAS JUST AN UPDATE FOR US IN THE COMMUNITY.

>> YES, THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S JUST AN UPDATE OF THE LATEST DRAWINGS THAT WE GOT FROM THE ARCHITECTS ON THE ARTS AND CULTURE CENTER.

THE DESIGN IS GETTING MORE DETAILED AS WE GET CLOSER TO OUR FUNDING APPLICATION, INCLUDING THE RENDERING, WHICH IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE I'D SAY, ESPECIALLY THE GROUND VIEW THERE.

TUNIS AND I ARE WORKING FEVERISHLY TO GET THE FUNDING APPLICATION TOGETHER FOR EARLY JULY THEN JULY 5TH IS THE DEADLINE.

AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, WE CONTRACTED BROOK MCILROY TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL WORK FOR THE GREEN OPPORTUNITIES, SO THIS BUILDING WILL BE A NET-ZERO BUILDING, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE FUNDING, FEDERAL FUNDING UP TO ROUGHLY 50 PERCENT [INAUDIBLE] THRESHOLDS.

WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT TO BRING THOSE COSTS, BEAR AND FEED IN THE TECHNICAL INFORMATION THAT WE NEED ON THE GREEN SIDE OF THE GRANT.

WE'LL BE READY FOR THAT INTAKE FOR THE FUNDING AND FINGERS CROSSED THAT THAT PANS OUT, AND THEN THAT'LL GO A LONG WAY TO TURNING THAT BUILDING INTO REALITY AND THEN SIMPLIFY THE REST OF THE FUNDING IS NECESSARY WITH OUR INSURANCE SETTLEMENT, WE CAN LEVERAGE THE REST AND MAYBE HOPEFULLY IF WE GET THE GREEN GRANT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE CAN THEN RELY ON NOHFC AND CULTURAL SPACES CANADA FILL IN OTHER LITTLE BLANKS ALONG THE WAY.

BUT WE'RE WELL-POSITIONED FOR THAT FUNDING APPLICATION AND I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD CASE, BUT IT'S VERY COMPETITIVE AND AS WE'VE SEEN, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE DETAILS OF THE FUNDERS, SENIOR CYR, YOUR FUNDERS AND THEIR DECISION-MAKING.

>> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? COUNCILOR TURNER?

>> I WONDER, MR. GAGNON, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC WATCHING THIS MEETING, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO SHARE THOSE PHOTOS [INAUDIBLE] THAT BROOK MCILROY HAS PUT TOGETHER FOR THE CONCEPT?

>> SHORT ANSWER IS YES, I'M JUST PULLING IT UP HERE NOW. JUST GIVE ME A SECOND.

SEE WHAT I CAN DO HERE. JUST GIVE ME A MINUTE.

>> CAN EVERYBODY SEE THAT?

>> YEAH. I THINK IT'S JUST THE COLORED ONES.

>> YEAH, THAT'S THE AERIAL VIEW AS IT LAYS ON THE PROPERTY.

SEE THE GATHERING CIRCLE FEEDING INTO THE COURTYARD AND BUILDING ORIENTED SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY BUT INTERESTING.

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>> GREAT.

>> [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE]

>> WE SKIPPED PAST TWO OF THEM THERE.

>> YEAH, I KNOW. I HAD IT FOR A SECOND AND THEN I WASN'T PREPARED FOR THIS.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I WOULD [INAUDIBLE] SLICKER PRESENTATION, OBVIOUSLY.

[NOISE] IS THAT BETTER?

>> BEAUTIFUL.

>> YOU'LL NOTICE I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT, BUT IT'S NOT A FLAT ROOF.

[LAUGHTER] THERE'S A LOT OF SKYLIGHTS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR NATURAL LIGHT TO INFILTRATE THE BUILDING.

PARKING IN COURTYARDS.

IT'S NOT SHOVEL-READY TRADITIONALLY, BUT THIS WILL GO A LONG WAY.

I THINK IT CAN [NOISE] HELP WITH THEIR FUNDING APPLICATION AND HOPEFULLY GETTING THE PUBLIC A LITTLE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR OPPORTUNITY AND ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN GET THE GRANT AND END UP HAVING THE COMFORT THAT THIS IS A NET-ZERO BUILDING WILL ALSO BE HELPFUL AND CHECK A LOT OF BOXES FOR US.

THAT'S ESSENTIALLY IT UNLESS THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

>> I THINK THERE'S ONE MORE PICTURE.

>> OKAY. YEAH, A BIT OF A RENDERING AGAIN, BUT AGAIN, ALL OF THESE SEATS ARE RETRACTABLE, WHICH I'M STILL VERY CURIOUS ABOUT MYSELF.

BUT ONCE COVID RELAXES, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO GO LOOK AT SOME VARIOUS THEATERS THAT HAVE A RETRACTABLE CEILING.

THE SEATING IN THE BASEMENT AT THE BOTTOM IS ACTUALLY SUNKEN IN THE FLOOR AND THEN RETRACTABLE CEILING WITH A RAKE, OF COURSE, SO WE WON'T HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS WE HAVE IN THE FORMER CIVIC CENTER.

PRETTY INTRIGUING SPACE THAT WE CAN USE, VERY MULTI-DIMENSIONAL AND FLEXIBLE.

>> THANKS, MR. GAGNON. APPRECIATE THAT.

>> NO PROBLEM. I THINK I'M GOING TO STOP SHARING MY SCREEN.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS UPDATE, COUNCILOR PEARCE?

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU TO MR. GAGNON.

I THINK, MS. BRAY, FOR CLARIFICATION, I NOTICE THAT ALL OF THESE DRAWINGS SHOW THE CULTURAL HUBS CITED AT THE SITE OF A FORMER PEARSON CIVIC CENTER.

[NOISE] TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE HAS BEEN NO RESOLUTION OF COUNCIL THAT PLACES IT THERE.

I WOULD LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION FROM THE CLERK.

WAS THERE A RESOLUTION OF COUNCIL TO PLACE THIS HUB IN THAT LOCATION?

>> YES. AS FAR AS I REMEMBER, WE DID SAY THAT IT WOULD GO BACK AT THAT LOCATION.

I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY PULL THAT UP AND SEND IT OUT TO COUNCIL.

>> I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

>> IT WAS A REQUEST THAT CAME UP FROM THE I'M NOT SURE IF [INAUDIBLE] AND CULTURE COMMITTEE OR THE MUSEUM COMMITTEE THAT THAT SITE BE BROUGHT FORWARD AS THE SITE FOR THE NEW FACILITY, AND IT WAS VOTED ON BY COUNCIL BY RESOLUTION.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WITH THE UPDATE? OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE'LL CARRY ON.

9.3, RESIDENTIAL WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS, STANDING ITEMS JUST TO QUESTION MR. GAGNON.

I KNOW SOME OF OUR SENIOR STAFF ARE GOING ON VACATION THERE OVER JULY.

I'M CURIOUS IF WE MIGHT SEE A UPDATED REPORT FROM STAFF WITH RECOMMENDATIONS COME EARLY AUGUST PERHAPS SO THAT COUNCIL CAN MAKE SOME SOLID DECISIONS AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE NEXT STEPS HERE.

>> YES, THAT'S MY SINCERE HOPE.

WE HAVE THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO REVISIT SOME OF THE CONCEPTS IN ESTEN LAKE AND THE OTHER LAKES.

WE'RE PULLING ALL THAT TOGETHER AND WE HOPE TO GET THAT TO YOU IN LATE SUMMER AS WELL SO THAT COUNCIL CAN DECIDE WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS ARE FOR WHAT ARE THE REGULATORY AND PLANNING MATTERS RELATED TO ESTEN OR OTHER LAKES.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILOR PATRIE?

>> ALSO AT THE F&A MEETING,

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THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET FROM ELRDC, AND THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD SAID THE COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE TO APPROVE IT.

I'VE SINCE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. GAGNON AND CONFIRM THAT NO COUNCIL MUST APPROVE IT.

I WOULD LIKE THAT BROUGHT TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING BECAUSE THEY'RE OPERATING INAPPROPRIATELY NOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN ALMOST HALF A YEAR WITH NO APPROVED BUDGET.

THEY'RE NOT SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S MANDATED IN THE ACT THAT ANY MONEY THAT THEY SPEND MUST BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT THEY BRING THAT BUDGET TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

>> OKAY. COUNCILOR PEARCE?

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. [LAUGHTER] THE BUDGET WAS DISCUSSED AT A REGULAR MEETING OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND FOR WHAT REASON OR RATHER IF IT WAS INADVERTENTLY.

WE DIDN'T VOTE ON IT. I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW THAT CAME ABOUT, BUT NEVERTHELESS, WE WILL BE HOLDING A MEETING OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AT THE EARLIEST OPPORTUNITY, AND ONCE WE HAVE DONE SO, WE WILL BRING IT TO COUNCIL.

I CAN'T GUARANTEE IT'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, BUT IT WILL BE AT THE EARLIEST COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN.

CERTAINLY WE'VE KEPT THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT INFORMED AS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE'RE NOT OPERATING OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

MR. AFFIE WANTS TO MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF IT, THAT'S FINE BUT WE WILL BE DOING WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO GET IT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CARRY ON.

9.4 COVID-19 UPDATE.

STANDING ITEM, MR. DANIEL?

>> YES. AS COUNCIL IS PROBABLY AWARE, THE PROVINCE IS MOVING INTO STAGE 3, I BELIEVE IT'S MIDNIGHT OF JUNE 30TH.

IT DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF IMPACT ON US AT THE CURRENT STATE.

IT MOVES TO 25 PEOPLE FOR OUTDOORS.

WHAT I DO RECOMMEND UNRELATED EVEN TO THE STAGE 3, IS WE WILL INFORM THE PUBLIC.

>> STAGE 2?

>> STAGE 2.

>> STAGE 2, MY BAD.

BUT LET'S SAY THAT I GET AHEAD OF MYSELF.

YES, STAGE 2 OPENS ON JUNE 30TH.

WE WILL BE PLANNING TO REOPEN CITY HALL FOR APPOINTMENT ONLY BEGINNING OR WE DIDN'T NEED TO WAIT FOR COUNCIL OR FOR STAGE 2 TO DO THAT.

BUT UP UNTIL RECENTLY WE WERE STILL WORKING ON THE CURB SIDE SCENARIO, SO NOW IF YOU WANT ME TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITH THE CLERK OR THE TAX DEPARTMENT, WE CAN DO THAT IN THE COMMITTEE ROOM BEHIND THE PLEXIGLASS, AND HAVE A PROPER SIT DOWN.

THAT'LL BE EFFECTIVE TOMORROW.

WE'LL GET A PRESS NOTICE OUT ABOUT THAT.

THE LIBRARY, I'M TOLD IS MOVING TOWARDS LIMITED NUMBERS, BUT OPEN FOR IN-PERSON USE AS OF JULY 5TH.

THERE'LL BE A PRESS ITEM ON THAT AS WELL, JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF LAYOUT TO THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S LIMITED NUMBERS, BUT YOU WILL BE ABLE ACTUALLY GO INTO THE LIBRARY AND ACCESS THOSE SERVICES AS OF JULY 5TH.

SO THAT'S A GOOD SIGN.

THEN IT'S UP TO COUNCIL, OF COURSE, BUT I RECOMMEND THAT WE CANCEL OR POSTPONE THE FIREWORKS FOR MANY NUMBER OF REASONS, BUT CERTAINLY THE PANDEMIC AS WELL.

WE ARE CONCERNED WITH THE GATHERINGS.

WE HAVE A BIT OF A CONCERN WHERE THE PUBLIC COULD BE WATCHING FROM THEIR VEHICLES OR GETTING OUT OF THEIR VEHICLES, BUT IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A BIT OF A TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE GATHERINGS BECAUSE IT WILL BE THE ISSUE OF PEOPLE TRYING TO GATHER AND STAY CLOSE TO THEIR VEHICLES.

IT'S JUST NOT PARTICULARLY TENABLE.

THERE MAY BE ALL LOTS OF OTHER ISSUES AT PLAY AS WELL, AND COUNCIL'S MIND IF THEY WANT TO, BUT I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE POSTPONE THE FIREWORKS.

BY THAT WAY, I'D SAY SAVE THE MONEY FOR A POST-COVID PARTY OF SOME SORT, OR SOME FORM OF POSTPONED FIREWORKS.

BUT I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT WE GO AHEAD WITH THAT ON JUNE 30TH OR JULY 1ST, PARTIALLY BECAUSE OF COVID AND WHATEVER OTHER REASONS COUNCIL WANTS TO CONSIDER.

BUT I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT WE POSTPONE THE FIREWORKS.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A MOTION ON THAT. IT'LL PROBABLY BE HELPFUL.

>> COUNCILOR PATRICK?

>> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT YOUR WORSHIP, THAT BECOME FREE CONSIDERATION.

WE'VE GIVEN DIRECTION TO HOLD THE FIREWORKS, AND SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD WITH DOING THE FIREWORKS.

WE DID HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT LENGTH ABOUT STAGE 1 AND STAGE 2.

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WE'RE NOT EVEN ON STAGE 2, BUT THE LIMITATIONS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF PUBLIC HEALTH.

BUT BECAUSE COUNCIL HAS GIVEN THAT DIRECTION, I DON'T WANT TO BE DEALING WITH A RECONSIDERATION ISSUE, AND I THINK WE SHOULD JUST CONTINUE ON WITH THE DIRECTION THAT WAS GIVEN BY COUNCIL.

>> MR. DANIEL?

>> I'M JUST CLARIFYING, HAS COUNCIL GIVEN DIRECTION TO THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT THE FIREWORKS?

>> I DON'T BELIEVE AN OFFICIAL RESOLUTION WAS PASSED.

WE'VE HAD THIS AS A STANDING ITEM FOR THE PAST PROBABLY SIX MONTHS, AND SO WE'VE DEFINITELY HAD UPDATES FROM STAFF BACK AND FORTH AND AT TIMES WHERE STAFF DOES ITS DUE DILIGENCE AND SEES THAT SOMETHING MAY BE UNSAFE FOR THE COMMUNITY, THEY USUALLY BRING IT BACK TO US AT THE FOLLOWING MEETING AS TO MOVE ON OR NOT MOVE ON.

THE SAME WAS WITH THE DRAG RACES.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE ENDED UP HAVING TO CANCEL THOSE ALSO.

>> IT'S MY OPINION IN THAT CASE, IT'S NOT A RECONSIDERATION ISSUE WHETHER COUNCIL WANTS TO CANCEL OR DIRECT US TO KEEP THEM, THAT'S FINE.

BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A RECONSIDERATION IN THAT SENSE.

IT'S SIMPLY AN ITEM THAT ADMINISTRATION IS RECOMMENDING WE CANCEL AND TAKE THE COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN AND LET US KNOW.

>> COUNCILOR TURNER.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE CAO.

THE INITIAL PLAN WAS THAT PEOPLE COULD PARK ALONG MANOWAY, FROM THE BOAT LAUNCHES AND THE LIGHT, PERHAPS GET OUT OF THEIR CARS, BUT STAY WITH THEIR CARS.

HAVING GIVEN IT SOME SECOND THOUGHTS, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS CHILDREN HAVE TO SEE THE FIREWORKS STEPPING OUT ON TO THAT HIGHWAY.

THERE'S STILL VEHICLES MOVING DOWN THE HIGHWAY.

I THINK IT'S JUST TOO DANGEROUS TO HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

IT'S REALLY NOT NECESSARY.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWING THEM TO PARK CAN GO INTO THE PARTS WHERE IT'S SAFE, WE'RE ASKING THEM TO STAND ON THE SIDE OF A HIGHWAY.

WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO JUST CAN'T GET IT THROUGH THEIR HEAD, THEY GO SLOPE.

THIS IS NOT WORTH THE RISK.

>> COUNCILOR MANN.

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP. I GUESS MY ONLY COMMENT AT THIS POINT WOULD BE; STAGE 2 CLEARLY SAYS OUTDOOR SOCIAL GATHERINGS OR ORGANIZED PUBLIC EVENTS UP TO 25 PEOPLE.

I HIGHLY DOUBT ONLY 25 PEOPLE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE FIREWORKS.

THEREFORE, IN THE INTEREST OF ABIDING BY THE RULES OF REOPENING IN STAGE 2, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN REASONABLY MOVE AHEAD WITH IT. I REALLY DON'T.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP. I'M QUITE PREPARED TO ASK TO OPEN THE AGENDA AND ADD THIS TO THE AGENDA AS A DISCUSSION IF COUNCILOR PATRICK FEELS THAT THIS IS RECONSIDERATION TO SUSPEND THE PROCEDURE BY LAW, AND ASKS US TO BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA TO HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.

FOR ME, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE PANDEMIC AND IF I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE FIREWORKS, I'M WILLING TO OPEN UP THE SUSPENDED PROCEDURAL BY-LAW AND ADD IT TO THE AGENDA FOR A DISCUSSION, SO IT'S NOT CONSIDERED RECONSIDERATION IF AT ALL IT IS.

>> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT YOUR WORSHIP, IF YOU DO SUSPEND THE PROCEDURAL BY-LAW ON DOING IT, IT DOES BECOME RECONSIDERATION.

>> MISS BRAY.

>> COUNCIL HAS NOT PASSED A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO HOLDING FIREWORKS THIS YEAR, SO IT'S NOT RECONSIDERATION.

THIS IS ON AS AN UPDATE UNDER THE PANDEMIC, AND I THINK THE CAO IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE CANCEL FOR REASONS UNDER THE PANDEMIC, AND AS NOT RECONSIDERATION.

>> HE ALSO STATED FOR OTHER REASONS THAT COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO.

COUNCIL, THE FIREWORKS, WHEN CAN THAT BE DISCUSSED OR CAN IT BE?

>> THIS IS THE COVID-19 UPDATE, THE STANDING ITEM.

COUNCILOR PEARCE, DID YOU HAVE ANY ANY COMMENTS?

>> I WOULD HAVE VOTED WITH COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

FINE, YOU WANT TO CANCEL THEM UNDER THE COVID REGULATIONS, THAT'S FINE.

THERE'S A REASON WE'RE ALL WEARING ORANGE SHIRTS TONIGHT, FOLKS.

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MAYBE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT FINE.

IF WE'RE GOING TO CANCEL THE FIREWORKS ON THE BASIS OF COVID, THAT'S FINE. LET'S DO IT.

>> I WILL GET TO WHY WE'RE ALL WEARING ORANGE THIS EVENING, COUNCILOR PEARCE AND COUNCILOR FINAMORE DURING THE COUNCIL'S REPORT.

PERHAPS OTHERS CAN MAKE THEIR HEARTFELT COMMENTS.

I'M SURE THERE SEEMS TO BE A CONSENSUS AROUND THE TABLE TO GO WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

IF ANYONE REQUIRES AN OFFICIAL VOTE, WE CAN DO SO.

I'LL BE ASKING FOR AN OFFICIAL VOTE, COUNCILOR PATRICK.

>> I'M NOT GOING TO ASK FOR IT BECAUSE THE CLERK HAS SAID THAT THERE IS NO RESOLUTION, SO YOU DON'T NEED TO RESEND THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS STRICTLY DIRECTION.

DIRECTION DOESN'T REQUIRE IT TO BE VOTED AGAINST.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE COVID-19 UPDATE OR IS THERE ANY OTHER PIECES THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED WITH? OTHER THAN ALL FUN THINGS CONTINUE TO BE CANCELED, AND THERE IS A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.

WE WILL SEE THAT LATER EVENTUALLY.

THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE, MR. DANIEL.

THE NEXT ITEM, 11 CORRESPONDENCE 11.1 LETTER FROM COUNSELING CENTER OF EAST ALGOMA,

[11. CORRESPONDENCE]

LACK OF HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND ASKED FOR A MOVER TO RECEIVE, MOVED BY COUNCILOR FINAMORE, SECOND BY COUNCILOR MANN.

WE'VE ALL SEEN THE LETTER FOR THOSE AT HOME.

IT IS A LETTER HIGHLIGHTING CONCERNS ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND VERY BIG CONCERNS THAT WE HAVEN'T AND IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME HEARING.

UNFORTUNATELY, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE CITY IS NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF BUILDING HOUSES OR BUILDING BUILDINGS OR ACCOMMODATION BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE HAVE HAD MANY EMAILS ABOUT WHY DOESN'T THE CITY BUILT A NEW HOTEL.

THE CITY IS NOT IN THAT BUSINESS AS MUNICIPALITY, WE HAVE LAND, WE HAVE ZONING THAT WE CAN ASSIST WITH.

THERE'S VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND OTHER AREAS BUT, TO BUILD THE NEW HOUSING WOULD BE [OVERLAPPING] A PRIVATE ENTITY.

>> GOOD EVENING.

>> COUNSELOR PATRIE IS ON CALL THIS EVENING, WHICH HE MADE ME AWARE OF.

JUST FOR CLARITY, WE DID HAVE A RESPONSE TO THIS LETTER, WHICH WILL BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA AS CORRESPONDENCE ALSO, BECAUSE MAYBE THESE INDIVIDUALS SHOULD GET TOGETHER AND HAVE A CHAT, BUT THERE WAS A THREE-PAGE RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH THAT.

THEY'LL BE ON OUR NEXT AGENDA, BUT I WILL SAY GROUPS LIKE MAPLE GATE, TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THESE SITUATIONS AND DO HAVE A FUTURE PLAN FOR EXPANSION.

ORGANIZATIONS LIKE ADSAB, ALGOMA DISTRICT SERVICES ADMINISTRATION BOARD.

I BELIEVE ELLIOT LAKE OTHER THAN [INAUDIBLE] LAKE HAS MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAN ANY OTHER COMMUNITY THAT ADSAB SERVES A MULTITUDE OF BUILDINGS, AND DON'T JUST PROVIDE THE BUILDINGS OF THE HOUSING THEMSELVES, BUT ALSO SUBSIDIZE RENTS FOR RETIREMENT LIVING AND OTHER ENTITIES FOR APPLYING THE NON-PROFIT HOUSING, AMONGST MANY OTHERS.

I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME OF EVERY BUILDING IN TOWN.

BUT WHAT DOES CONCERN ME THOUGH, IS IN THIS LETTER IT STATES THAT, PEOPLE ARE BEING SENT TO ELLIOT LAKE, FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE PROVINCE [NOISE] AND I'M NOT SURE WHY INDIVIDUALS WOULD BE SENT TO A PLACE WHERE THEY HAVE NO LIVING, NO ACCOMMODATION.

IF SOMETHING ISN'T A SYSTEM FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN SOUTHERN ONTARIO OR EASTERN ONTARIO, WHY WOULD THEY BE GETTING SHIPPED TO ELLIOT LAKE, WITHOUT THERE BEING HOUSING AVAILABLE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUAL.

YOU'RE JUST SENDING SOMEBODY INTO DISASTER SO, THESE PIECES DO CONCERN ME, BUT AGAIN, THE CITY IS NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF CREATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF ASSISTING WHEN IT COMES TO LAND ZONING, AND OTHER PIECES LIKE THAT.

THAT BEING SAID, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ABOUT THIS? COUNSELOR FINAMORE.

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED TO ASK OUR FOUR REPRESENTATIVES, ON THE OUTSIDE BOARD IF THIS IS A DISCUSSION THAT YOU'RE HAVING AT THAT LEVEL,

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ABOUT THE CRISIS WITHIN ELLIOT LAKE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND CRISIS HOUSING.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR VOICE IS BEING CARRIED TO THAT TABLE BECAUSE, IT IS ABOUT THE ONLY TABLE THAT WE HAVE AT THIS POINT THAT CAN HEAR US AND PERHAPS HELP US AND DO SOMETHING IN THE INTERIM BY ADDING.

I DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE NO HOUSING PERIOD IN ELLIOT LAKE RIGHT NOW SO IT'S HARD TO ASK OUTSIDE BUT I REALIZED TO UP THEIR NUMBER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SUBSIDIZE FOR PEOPLE WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE UNITS TO SUBSIDIZE FOR PEOPLE.

>> THERE IS NOTHING AVAILABLE BUT COUNCILOR MANN IS THE CHAIR OF THE OUTSIDE BOARD.

COUNSELOR MANN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THIS IS AN ISSUE ALL ACROSS THE WHOLE DISTRICT.

>> YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT YOUR WORSHIP.

ACTUALLY, AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE DID TALK ABOUT HOUSING INITIATIVES ACROSS THE DISTRICT.

IT'S DEFINITELY AN ISSUE.

WHAT WE'RE SEEING AS OUR CURRENT STATUS IN ELLIOT LAKE WAS ACTUALLY BEING SEEING ACROSS THE NORTH AND ACROSS THE PROVINCE.

UNPRECEDENTED DEMAND AND NEED AND, WE ATTEMPT REALLY HAD TO PUSH FORWARD THE VIEWS OF OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL AS SUPPORTING THE BALANCE OF THE DISTRICT SO IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE DISCUSSED, ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR.

>> COUNSELOR PEARCE.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THERE WAS [NOISE] A QUESTION CONCERNING ONE OF THE STATEMENTS THAT WAS MADE TO THE EFFECT THAT, PEOPLE ARE BEING SENT TO ELLIOT LAKE.

IS THERE ANY PROOF FROM ANYBODY THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY THE CASE? I CERTAINLY HAVEN'T HEARD THAT.

>> COUNCILOR MANN.

>> ANY RESIDENT OF THE PROVINCE, CAN BE ON AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING LIST ANYWHERE IN THE PROVINCE.

THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING LISTS NATIONWIDE, FOR OTHER PROVINCES AS WELL.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK SOME OF US HAVE HEARD REGULARLY.

IS THERE CONCRETE PROOF? REALLY HARD TO PINPOINT THAT WHEN, RESIDENTS OF THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO ON AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR RGI TYPE LIST, CAN APPLY ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE PROVINCE, AS A RESIDENT OF THE PROVINCE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? DEFINITELY AN ONGOING ISSUE IN THE ALGOMA DISTRICT, AND I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW TO HOW TO TACKLE THAT ONE AT ALL.

BUT PERHAPS AS I MENTIONED, MAPLE GATE AND ADSAB CAN GET TOGETHER AND LOOK AT SOME ANSWERS FOR US.

TIME BEING SPED THERE'S A MOTION TO RECEIVE ON THE TABLE OR CALL FOR VOTE. COUNSELOR FINAMORE?

>> I'M IN FAVOR, THAT'S CARRIED.

THAT HAS BEEN RECEIVED [NOISE].

12 NOTICE A MOTION THERE ARE NONE 13 COUNCIL'S REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[13. COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS]

>> MUTANDUM.

>> IT'S THAT TIME WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE HEART TO HEART HERE BECAUSE, [NOISE] ODDLY ENOUGH, IT'S BEEN A YEAR AND A HALF, ESSENTIALLY SINCE I'VE HAD A LONG LIST OF GREAT EVENTS TO PUT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE THE COUNCIL'S REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NEXT TO NOTHING ON A REGULAR BASIS AND I'LL SAY WITH THAT, WE HAVE ENDURED MUCH IN THIS LAST YEAR AND A HALF WITH THE GLOBAL PANDEMIC.

MANY RESTRICTIONS AND ALL FUN GATHERINGS BEING CANCELED.

AS AGAIN WE SAW TONIGHT.

BUT WE HAVE ENDURED AND THERE'S LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL, AND WE WILL OVERCOME THIS TOGETHER AND LIFE WILL GET BACK TO NORMAL.

THAT BEING SAID THOUGH, WE'RE SITTING HERE WEARING ORANGE SHIRTS.

WE HAVE ANOTHER LESS UNDERSTOOD ISSUE LOOMING AND WITH CANADA DAY APPROACHING, THIS COMMUNITY IS FILLED WITH PATRIOTIC RESIDENTS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE, MYSELF, I WAS PROUD TO SERVE MY COUNTRY IN THE MILITARY OVERSEAS WEARING THE CANADIAN [NOISE] FLAG AS A BADGE OF HONOR.

BECAUSE THE FLAG IS RECOGNIZED AS A SYMBOL OF PEACE, FREEDOM, DIVERSITY, AND EQUALITY.

NOW I SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AND IT BREAKS MY HEART TO HEAR OF ATROCITIES THAT ARE COMING FROM THE RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL SITES ACROSS COUNTRY.

A DARK HISTORY OF COLONIALISTS UNION ACT AND THE HORRORS THAT WENT ON BEHIND

[02:30:02]

THOSE DOORS FOR OVER A CENTURY AND SOMETHING THAT MOST CANADIANS WERE IGNORANT TO.

YOU WEREN'T TAUGHT THIS IN SCHOOL.

THERE'S NOT NEW INFORMATION AS IT CAME OUT A FEW YEARS AGO, WITH THE TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION REPORT, [NOISE] AND ACTION PLAN, BUT IT HITS HOME NOW AS THE REMAINS OF CHILDREN ARE BEING UNCOVERED.

WE NOW BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THE DEVASTATION DONE TO HUMAN BEINGS, PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

I'M STILL PROUD TO CALL CANADA MY HOME AND I'M STILL PROUD TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY, WHICH IS WHY I ASK ALL OF YOU, TO TAKE A MOMENT TO DO SOME RESEARCH, REACH OUT, AND LISTEN.

RESPECT AND RECONCILIATION MUST BE AN EFFORT OF ALL CANADIANS IN ORDER FOR HEALING TO TAKE PLACE.

IT IS TIME FOR US TO COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY, AND NATIONWIDE.

I'D OFFER TO OUR INDIGENOUS FIRST NATION NEIGHBORS, MY EAR TO LISTEN, MY HEART TO FEEL COMPASSION AND I BELIEVE I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MY WHOLE COUNCIL.

WE AS A COMMUNITY, WILL OFFER ANY SUPPORT WE CAN TO YOU, OUR NEIGHBORS.

WHILE YOU WALK THE DARK ROAD AHEAD, YOU DON'T WALK IT ALONE.

I'LL ASK THE COUNCIL TO WEAR YOUR HEART OUT PLEASE. COUNCIL FINAMORE.

>> THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR. THOSE WERE WONDERFUL WORDS THAT YOU SAID.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY AND TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AS THE PROUD MOTHER OF CANADIAN SOLDIERS THIS IS AN EMOTIONAL ISSUE AND A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE WITH MANY LAYERS BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, OUR COUNTRY'S IN MOURNING, AND FOR US TO STAY SILENT AND TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE CANCELING FIREWORKS BECAUSE OF PANDEMIC TODAY THAT'S NOT WHY I'M AT THIS MEETING.

PEOPLE STAYED SILENT.

PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT HEARD.

THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE WHO HAD THESE ATROCITIES HAPPEN TO THEM, WEREN'T HEARD.

THEY SPOKE, THEY SPOKE OF THEIR LOSSES, THEY SPOKE OF THEIR PAIN, AND NOBODY HEARD AND I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT WE'RE LISTENING.

ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND MY FAMILY, I WOULD LIKE TO LET OUR INDIGENOUS NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE.

THAT WE WILL LISTEN WITH THE INTENT, AND THAT WE OFFER ANY ASSISTANCE THAT WE CAN TO CONTINUE TO STRIVE FOR ANSWERS, JUSTICE AND RECONCILIATION.

IT IS FAR BEYOND THE TIME TO BRING THEM HOME AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP.

PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT.

ELLIOT LAKE IS A CARING COMMUNITY.

WE ARE PART OF SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION.

WE ARE A PART OF THE MISSISSAUGA FIRST NATION, BECAUSE OF WHERE WE ARE SITUATED.

IN OUR HEARTS WE ARE ALL A PART OF YOU AND WE HOPE THAT YOU REACH OUT WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT AND ASK FOR ANY ASSISTANCE THAT WE CAN GIVE YOU, PERSONALLY OR THROUGH THE CITY. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILOR CYR.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP. THROUGH YOU, MYSELF I'M VERY UPSET WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING.

THE ONLY THING IS, I HOPE THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE DOESN'T FOCUS TOO MUCH ON A TYPE OF FOCUS ON CANCEL CULTURE TYPE OF EVENTS AND MENTALITY.

I THINK WE NEED TO WALK FORWARD IN A FUTURE TOGETHER.

I THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE PROACTIVE AT INCLUSION AND JUST DOING THINGS TOGETHER, TALKING TOGETHER, AND ACTUALLY PARTICIPATING IN LIFE TOGETHER.

WE HAVE A LOT OF TALK THAT WE WANT TO DO IT AND EVEN OUR CULTURE WITH THE LOCAL BANDS WE'VE BEEN TRYING FOR YEARS TO GET PARTNERSHIPS GOING AND WORK TOGETHER.

I HOPE IN ALL OF THIS THAT WE GO BEYOND WORDS AND ACTUALLY START WALKING HAND-IN-HAND TOGETHER.

WE NEED A VISIBLE PRESENCE IN THE COMMUNITY FROM FIRST NATIONS.

THAT'S HOW WE'LL CREATE THE BONDS AND THE PARTNERSHIPS TO ADD STRENGTH TO IT.

THIS IS JUST LIKE THEIR TRADITIONS.

ONE ARROW BY ITSELF IS EASY TO BREAK, BUT YOU BOND THOSE ARROWS TOGETHER, THEY ARE UNBREAKABLE.

IT'S TIME THAT WE JOIN OURSELVES TO THOSE ARROWS.

WE HAVE TO STOP LOOKING AT RACE.

START LOOKING IN UNITY AND WORKING TOGETHER, PLAYING TOGETHER, ENJOYING EACH OTHER'S COMPANY.

BUT TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO STOP JUST TALKING ABOUT IT AND ACTUALLY DO IT.

I HOPE TO SEE MORE ACTIVITIES IN ACTUALLY ENGAGING MORE TOGETHER.

>>THANK YOU WORSHIP, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS.

[02:35:01]

THEY WERE VERY GOOD.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME BECAUSE I COME FROM A DIFFERENT TIME AND PLACE THAN THE REST OF YOU.

I COME FROM A PLACE [NOISE] WHERE I'VE KNOWN ABOUT THE GRAVES OF INDIAN CHILDREN SINCE THE MID-'60S.

I'VE WALKED ON SOME OF THOSE GRAVES.

I'VE WALKED THROUGH THOSE YARDS.

I'VE WALKED WITH THE FATHERS AND THE MOTHERS.

THIS IS NOT A NEW THING.

THE TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE COMMISSION SAID THEY WERE APPROXIMATELY 2,500 UNMARKED GRAVES.

THE CHIEFS OF THE SKETCH AND FEDERATION OF INDIANS ESTIMATES THERE'S 2500 GRAVES JUST IN SCATCHARD.

LIKE YOU, I NEVER SERVED IN AFGHANISTAN AND YOU DID, BUT MY FAMILY HAS SERVED THIS COUNTRY FOR OVER A 100 YEARS IN TWO WORLD WARS, KOREA AND THE MIDDLE EAST.

I HAVE A GREAT BIG FLAG OF OUTSIDE MY HOME THAT I FLY WITH PRIDE EVERY DAY.

BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP ME FROM UNDERSTANDING, THE PAIN THAT WE HAVE INFLICTED UPON THE ABORIGINAL PEOPLE WERE NOT TRYING TO CANCEL ANYTHING.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO UNDERSTAND OUR PAST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WILL GUIDE US INTO THE FUTURE.

I HOPE AND I PRAY THAT THE PEOPLE OF ELLIOT LAKE UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO THEIR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS WHO LIVE IN CERTAIN RIVER, SANGAMON AND MISSISSAUGA. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILLOR MANN.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP. TO BE QUITE HONEST, I CAN'T REALLY FOLLOW WHAT YOU SAID.

I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT FOR THE COMMENTS YOU MADE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY ON THIS DIFFICULT TOPIC.

AS WE AS WE MOVE FORWARD AS COUNCILLOR PEARCE HAD INDICATED, I THINK WE NEED TO LISTEN.

WE NEED TO BE RESPECTFUL AND WE NEED TO ASSIST OUR NEIGHBORS IN ANY WAY WE CAN.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK I'M MORE THAN WILLING AND WANTING TO DO.

THERE WERE A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS THAT REACHED OUT BY EMAIL, I'M NOT SURE IF I WENT TO ALL OF COUNCIL OR JUST TO MYSELF, BUT I RECEIVED A FEW TODAY AND THE MAJORITY WERE TO SUSPEND, CANCEL THE FIREWORKS, WHICH I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT CLEARLY WE'VE ALREADY DONE.

AS COUNCILLOR FINAMORE SAID, THAT, REALLY WE'RE NOT HERE TO DO IT UNDER THE COVID PIECE.

HOWEVER, AGAIN, THAT'S PRETTY EVIDENT THAT WE HAD TO AS WELL, BUT I THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO BE THERE TO BE SUPPORTIVE TO OUR NEIGHBORS.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE WILL FIND WAYS TO GET TOGETHER AND TO CELEBRATE IN THE FUTURE.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY, SO THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. MR. DANIEL.

>> JUST A VERY QUICK FOOTNOTE TO LET COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT I REACHED OUT TO MY ADMINISTRATIVE EQUIVALENTS AND [INAUDIBLE] RIVER AND MISSISSAUGA FIRST NATION AND OFFERED ANY KIND OF HELP WE CAN POSSIBLY MANAGE.

THAT WE'RE HERE FOR THEM IF THEY'VE GOT ANY IDEAS WERE OPEN TO THEM FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF LEVEL TO HELP IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. DANIEL.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCILLOR TURNER?

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR COMMENTS.

MY SUBMISSION THERE.

THE ONLY THING I CAN ADD IS THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE INDIGENOUS, NON-INDIGENOUS COULD TAKE THE TIME TO ACTUALLY READ THE TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMMISSION'S REPORTS THAT COMMISSION STUDIED BETWEEN THE YEAR 2007 AND 2015.

EVERYTHING THAT IS SURPRISING EVERYBODY TODAY, APPARENTLY ACCORDING TO NEED IN ANYWAYS, IT'S THE INFORMATION THAT'S IN THOSE REPORTS SIX YEARS AGO, WE CAN UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER MORE BETTER, IF WE UNDERSTAND THE REPORT, READ IT, AND APPRECIATED FOR WHAT IT IS, AND THEN EMPATHIZE WITH EVERYONE INVOLVED.

UNDERSTAND HURT AND HEALING IS IMPORTANT.

[02:40:05]

ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE STUDY IT.

THERE WILL BE NO SURPRISES.

THE CENTER FOR TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION IS ALREADY DONE THE STUDIES.

GO TO THEIR HOMEPAGE.

IT'S FREE ACCESS THOUGH FOR ALL VOLUMES PLUS ADDITIONAL REPORTS THAT THEY COMMISSIONED.

IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR ALL THIS TO TAKE THE TIME TO READ IT AND THEN WE CAN COMMENT SINCERELY THAT WE CAN SEE WE APPRECIATE OR HAVE A BETTER APPRECIATION OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND OUR SONS HAVE A BETTER APPRECIATION FOR WHAT WE ASK ON THE FUTURE. THANK YOU.

>> DEFINITELY, TIME IS AN INFORMATION NOT TO MAKE HISTORY HERE IN CANADA AND POSSIBLY OUR CHILDREN OR GRANDCHILDREN, GREAT GRANDCHILDREN WILL BE TAUGHT EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT CANADIAN HISTORY AND STILL LOVE AND RESPECT THIS COUNTRY AS WE ALL DO, BUT WITH AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE PAST.

THAT BEING SAID, THERE IS I GUESS AN ANNOUNCEMENT JUST SAW EVERYONE'S AWARE ON COUNCIL IN THE PUBLIC.

OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS GOING TO BE JULY 12TH, WILL START EARLY AS 6:30 FOR A PROPOSED ZONING BY LAW, OFFICIAL PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE ADDITION OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

MARK THAT ON YOUR CALENDAR 6:30 OF JULY 12TH, LOOKING AT ZONING AMENDMENT FOR ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

[INAUDIBLE].

THE BIG TICKET ITEMS. FOR JUNE 24TH, MINISTER OF FINANCE, MUNICIPAL POLICING, 236,000, RECEIVER GENERAL, 82,200.

BRENDA ENVIRONMENTAL MOBILIZE AND DEMOBILIZED 37,400.

BROOKE MCILROY FEASIBILITY STUDY IN HUB INDIGENOUS 21,100, GFL ENVIRONMENTAL CURBSIDE AND SEPTIC SERVICE, 40,000.

THE RECONSTRUCTION AND PAYMENTS CERTIFICATE 64 PINE POPULAR REHAB, 204,000.

NORTH SHORE FORD FOR VEHICLE VOA 86, VOA 15 AND VOA 91 FORD F150, XOTS 150,500, ALMOST 46,800.

THE SURFACE CORE, A CENTENNIAL ARENA, OLYMPIA, LITHIUM TANK, SIPHON, 94,900, PELLET ENGINEER MEETING FOR POPULAR PINE REHAB ASKED AND COLBERT SCALE PLANNING 25,900.

THOSE ARE BIG TICKET ITEMS FOR THIS EVENING.

CARRY ON AS WE DO HAVE AN ADDENDUM,

[14. ADDENDUM]

CAN I HAVE A MOVER AND A SECONDER TO ADD THE ADDENDUM TO THIS EVENING'S AGENDA.

I SWEAR I WILL SPEAK QUICKER. MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN.

SECOND, BY COUNCILLOR, CYR.

ROLL CALL VOTE. COUNSELOR FINAMORE.

ADDENDUM 14.1, REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS RESUPPLY AND INSTALL BACKUP DIESEL GENERATOR AT CITY HALL.

RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT DATED JUNE 28TH, 2021 BY THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF A 1,000 AMP DIESEL BACKUP GENERATOR AND TRANSFER IT SWITCH OPTION 3 TO BE INSTALLED AT CITY HALL AND THAT THE ADDITIONAL COST OF 50,000 PLUS BOOKABLE TAXES BE BUDGETED TO THE FACILITY RESERVE ACCOUNT.

MOVER PLEASE. MOVE BY COUNCILLOR CYR, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

MR. HALLOCH, GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP. THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS FROM THE IT DEPARTMENT IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

>> [INAUDIBLE] HEADMAN.

>> EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY TO INSTALL AN EMERGENCY POWER SUPPLY THAT WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO KEEP THE SERVERS OPERATING AND ALLOW THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING TO BE OPERATIONAL IN BOTH AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AND A CONTROL CENTER.

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THE PRICING AND QUOTES WERE SUBMITTED TO BUDGET AND THEY WERE APPROVED TO PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS NEW INITIATIVE IS THEREFORE TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBLE EXPANSION OF THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR STANDBY GENERATOR INTERCONNECTION TO ALL THE EMERGENCY SERVICES, FIRE DEPARTMENT, OPP CITY HALL, AND THE PARAMEDIC WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WORK.

BASICALLY, AT THE MOST BASIC LEVEL, YOU SHOULD HAVE BACKUP POWER GENERATOR OF SOME TYPE, NATURAL GAS OR DIESEL, THAT IS LARGE ENOUGH TO POWER UP YOUR CRITICAL SYSTEMS. AS A STAFF, I INVESTIGATED THE PROCESS OF INSTALLING SEPARATE GENERATORS, A DECISION WAS MADE TO REVISIT THE MAIN POWER AT CITY HALL AND DETERMINE A COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY POWER TO ALL EMERGENCY FACILITIES.

I DESCRIBED EARLIER ONE LARGE 1000 AMP GENERATOR AND TRANSFER SWITCH WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO FEED THE ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE, AT THE SAME TIME SAVING OR PREVENTED OF THE MAINTENANCE COST AS EACH BACKUP GENERATORS REQUIRED AN ANNUAL LOADING OR A LOAD TEST.

BASICALLY PUTTING DOWN HERE WHEN WE'RE STATING AND I'VE GOT THE OPTIONS OF DRAWING WHILE CURRENTLY, YEAH.

SO WE WERE NOT APPROVED TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE CURRENT 100 AMP DIESEL GENERATOR AND TRANSFER SWITCH FOR CITY HALL EMERGENCY GENERATOR WAS BUDGETED FOR A 100,000 AND APPROVED.

THIS WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO SUPPLY THE FIRE HALL, BUT WOULD REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL DOORS TO HOOK THEM UP AND HOW ABOUT COMMUNICATING A TRANSFER SWITCH AS THE FIRE SERVICES ARE FED WITH THEIR OWN SERVICE.

WHEN WE STARTED TO LOOK INTO AS IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN HAVING INTERESTS OF HAVING AN EMERGENCY POWER AT THESE OTHER BUILDINGS TO UPGRADE OUR 1000 AMP DIESEL GENERATOR AND TRANSFER SWITCH THAT CAN SUPPLY BACKUP POWER TO ALL THE CITY FACILITIES.

CITY HALL, OPP AMBULANCE AND FIRE HALL AGAIN, AS WELL AS MATERIALS REQUIRED TO CONNECT EACH FACILITY.

THIS WOULD REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL COST OF A 150,000 IF WE DECIDED TO DO IT ALL IN ONE YEAR, ABOVE AND BEYOND THE APPROVED 100,000 FOR THE CITY HALL PROJECT.

MORE SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO THIS EMERGENCY GENERATOR THROUGH A PHASING IN PROCESS.

THIS WOULD BE A TWO-PART PROCESS WHERE THE GENERATOR WOULD BE UPSIZED TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE BUILDINGS.

FROM THERE, CITY HALL WOULD BE TIED IN TO A FIRST PHASE OF POWER WITH THE MAIN AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SWITCH INSTALLED.

AFTER THAT, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT A CAPITAL PROJECT FOR 2020 TO WITH AN ESTIMATED $100 COST TO CABLE INTO THE OPP STATION WILL THEN RUN IN THERE WOULD BE DISCONNECTS INSTALLED TO EACH OF THE BUILDINGS IF REQUIRED.

THE PROCESS WOULD CONTINUE TO THE AMBULANCE STATION.

THEN FINALLY THE FINAL PHASE WOULD BE THE FIRE HALL WHERE WE WOULD REQUIRE TRENCHING TO INSTALL.

YOU'D HAVE TO GO GROUND WHERE THE OTHER ONES WOULD BE ACROSS THE ROOF.

[NOISE] COUNCIL APPROVE THIS PURCHASE OF A 100 AMP BACKUP GENERATOR TRANSFER SWITCH AT A COST OF A 100,000.

IF COUNCIL, LIKE YOU SAID, IF WE WERE GOING TO APPROVE OPTION NUMBER 2, THAT WOULD BE A $150,000 ALL IN ONE YEAR.

IF WE GO WITH APPROVING THE RECOMMENDED OPTION 3, IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 50,000.

THEN LOOKING AT, LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, A CAPITAL PROJECT OF A 100,000 NEXT YEAR, THE EXCESS FUNDS WOULD BE BUDGETED TOWARDS THE FACILITIES RESERVES.

BASICALLY, IN SUMMARY, THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE OWNS AND MAINTAINS THE THREE ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS DESCRIBED IN THIS REPORT.

THE ADDITIONAL COST OF UPGRADING THE GENERATOR WILL ALLOW THESE EMERGENCY SERVICE BUILDINGS TO OPERATE AT FULL CAPACITY DURING POWER LOSSES.

ELLIOT LAKE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS HOME TO THE IT BACKUP SERVERS AS WELL AS THE DISPATCH CENTER FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES.

FOR THESE REASONS, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE PURCHASE OF THE 1000 AMP BACKUP DIESEL GENERATOR AND TRANSFER SWITCH FOR THE ADDITIONAL COST OF 50,000 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH.

DEFINITELY A GOOD IDEA TO GET THIS MOVING FORWARD SITTING ON THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS.

SOMETHING THAT'S COME UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN THROUGH MANY OF OUR EXERCISES IS DEFINITELY THE BACKUP POWER FOR CITY HALL BEING THE COMMAND CENTER THROUGH ANY MAJOR EMERGENCY, BUT THEN FOLLOWING THROUGH FOR ALL OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES, AND THEN WE'RE QUITE LUCKY ACTUALLY THAT THEY'RE ALL LINED UP PERFECTLY LIKE THAT.

WE HAVE THE OPP,

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THE AMBULANCE SERVICES IN THE FAIRHALL LINED UP RIGHT NEXT TO WHAT WOULD BE THE COMMAND CENTERS.

I THINK THIS IS A GOOD APPROACH AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IT DONE SOONER THAN LATER.

THANK YOU, AND I'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS. COUNCILLOR PATRIE?

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. SORRY, I HAD TO LEAVE.

I HAD GIVEN YOU NOTICE.

I MAY BE GETTING CALLS. I HAVE SOME OTHER MEETINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING TONIGHT AS WELL.

WHEN IT COMES TO THIS GENERATOR, I WISH I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN TO COMMITTEE FIRST AND THEN THE COUNCIL.

I DEAL WITH GENERATORS IN MY BUSINESS THROUGH THE SUMMER FOR DECADES AND I CAN'T SPEND A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS FOR BACKUP POWER FOR FOUR BUILDINGS.

A 1000 AMPS RELAY SWITCH, I JUST CAN'T DO THAT.

THAT'S JUST WAY TOO MUCH MONEY.

LIKE WE STARTED WITH $30,000 WHEN THIS ORIGINALLY CAME TO COUNSEL AND NOW WE'RE AT A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS.

I JUST CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS KIND OF MONEY. I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COUNCILLOR MANN?

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP. THROUGH YOU TO MR. HALLOCH.

WHAT'S THE SIZE OF THE GENERATOR? HOW MANY KILOWATT HOURS IS THIS UNIT, YOU KNOW, OFF HEAD? BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET A SCALE SIMILAR TO COUNCILLOR PATRIE ON THE UPGRADE.

CLEARLY, I UNDERSTAND.

IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE BACKUP POWER FOR ALL THREE OF THOSE, BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SCALE BETWEEN THE 100 AMP AND 1000 AMP.

I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE SIZE OF THE GENERATOR IS.

>> NOW, I'M WANT TO KNOW IF HE'S STILL ONLINE AND I JUST WANT TO CHECK WITH HIM.

MR. DOYLE, ARE YOU STILL ONLINE WHERE YOU COULD HELP COMMENT ON THIS, PLEASE?

>> I'M STILL HERE NOW. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS JUST ROUGHLY 1000 AMP GENERATOR.

CITY HALL HAS A 1000 AMP POWER GOING THROUGH IT.

THEY'RE NOT USING ALL OF THE 1000 AMPS.

BACK IN THE DAY, 1000 AMPS AT CITY HALL WAS USED TO POWER ALL OF THOSE BUILDINGS.

BUT OVER THE YEARS, ALL OF THE BUILDINGS HAVE GOT DISCONNECTED AND THEY'RE ALL METERED DIFFERENTLY.

GOING BACK TO THAT QUESTION, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE KILOWATT WILL BE AT THE MOMENT, AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF WE'RE GOING TO NEED EXACTLY 1000, BUT IT WILL BE ROUGHLY A 1000 AMP GENERATOR.

BUT I CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON WHAT THE KILOWATT WILL BE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. DOYLE.

I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN THIS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

YOU DON'T OPERATE A 1000 AMP GENERATOR, YOU OPERATE A 300, 400, 500 KILOWATT GENERATOR FOR THE AMOUNT OF POWER THAT YOU PUT OUT.

YOU WOULD PUT THAT INTO RELAYS SWITCHES, AND I DON'T THINK THAT YOU NEED A 1000 AMP SWITCH.

I COULD BRING A GENERATOR TO TOWN AND RUN ALMOST THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY WITH A 400 OR 500 KILOWATT GENERATOR WITH THE RATE SWITCHING SYSTEMS. IT'S THE AMOUNT OF DRAW PER BUILDING.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE'S A 1000 AMP SERVICE AT CITY HALL AND THEN THAT 1000 AMP SERVICE AT CITY HALL WOULD HAVE TO BE BROKEN DOWN TO SMALLER SERVICES WITHIN CITY HALL AS MR. DOYLE SAYS.

SO THERE MAY BE FOUR 200 AMPS SWITCHES OR BREAKERS BEYOND THAT.

BUT YOU DON'T NEED THAT KIND OF POWER TO OPERATE THESE FACILITIES.

TO SPEND A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS ON BACKUP POWER.

IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE I DEAL WITH GENERATED POWER, A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS IS PUTTING A MASERATI IN A PINTO PLANT.

TO ME, IT JUST DOESN'T WORK.

IT'S WAY TOO MUCH OVERKILL TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY TO DO BACKUP POWER FOR THESE FACILITIES.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. COUNCILLOR MANN?

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>> I THOUGHT I WANT TO HAVE A SIDEBAR CONVERSATION YOUR WORSHIP WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE, BUT I HAVE QUESTIONS AS WELL TOO.

AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ARE VERY OPERATIONAL.

YOU GET INTO THE LARGER AMPERAGE REQUIRED BASED ON THE LOAD THAT'S COMING FROM EACH BUILDING.

ARE ALL THE AIR CONDITIONERS AND THE ROOFTOP IN ITS OWN OR IS IT ONLY MINIMAL HEAT IN THE WINTER? THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT CLEARLY ARE GOING TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE.

YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EMERGENCY HEAT WHERE YOU CAN CONTINUE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME OR DO YOU PUT THE WHOLE PLANT ON THE GENERATOR AND BE RUNNING FULL TILT? THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THIS IS COMING FROM.

I GUESS, TO MR. HOLLOCH, IF THIS WAS TO BE KICKED BACK TO COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER INFORMATION FOR A MONTH, LET'S SAY, HOW MUCH WOULD IT JEOPARDIZE THE TIMING OF THIS PROJECT?

>> WELL, THAT'S THE REASON WHY WHEN WE WERE TALKING THIS CAME UP AFTERWARDS IN THE EMAIL WHERE WE'VE NOTICED A FEW OTHER FACILITIES THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN.

WE DON'T WANT TO EVER SAY THAT WE WENT AHEAD AND DID A PROJECT AND WE NEVER THOUGHT OF THE OTHER FACILITIES THAT ARE NEXT TO IT, SO WE LOOKED INTO THAT, BUT IF WE DON'T MAKE A DECISION ANYTIME SOON IT'S THE MATTER OF THAT WE'VE ORDERED UP TO 100 GENERATOR AND IT'S JUST THE FACT OF WE PROBABLY, AFTER TALKING WITH MR. DOYLE, WE ONLY HAVE A SMALL TIMELINE TO CANCEL AND ORDER SOMETHING BIGGER UP.

WE'D EITHER HAVE TO JUST CANCEL THE OTHER ONE AND PUT THE PROJECT ON HOLD OR CONTINUE ON WITH THAT ONE AT THIS POINT.

>> COUNCILLOR CYR?

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. MY BIGGEST CONCERN, I GUESS THROUGH THIS IS WE'RE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC, WE STILL DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GETTING FUTURE WAVES, IS THIS A NEED OR A WANT? I JUST DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF CONTINUALLY SPENDING MONEY WHEN HOW MANY BUSINESSES ARE SUFFERING.

WE STILL DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO REOPEN AFTER THIS.

WHAT IF WE HAVE SOME MORE TAX LOSSES FROM BUSINESSES THAT JUST CAN'T OPEN? IT COMES TO A POINT WHERE I THINK WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE OUR SPENDING.

YES, WE DO NEED BACKUP POWER BUT OUR CREDIT CARD IS ONLY SO BIG AND OUR TAXPAYER'S WALLETS ARE ONLY SO BIG.

I THINK WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR TAXPAYERS A LITTLE BIT BY BEING CAUTIOUS WITH SPENDING, ESPECIALLY IN THIS PANDEMIC TIME WHEN EVERYBODY IS STRUGGLING.

>> THEN LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY WAY I COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION IS EXACTLY LIKE MAYOR MARCHISELLA SAID, ALL THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT MEETINGS ARE TO HAVE BACKUP POWER TO A LOT OF THE FACILITIES AROUND TOWN.

OF COURSE, WE COULD PRIORITIZE THEM, WE FIGURE WE'RE IN ONE AREA RIGHT NOW AND THERE'S A POSSIBILITY, I'M NOT SURE IF MR. DOYLE COMMENT THAT IF WE CAN GET AWAY WITH A SMALLER ONE AND WE DO AN AMENDMENT ON THAT, BUT AT THIS POINT, THIS IS THE RESEARCH HAS BEEN DONE AND TALKING TO THE CONTRACTOR THAT WE'RE WITH.

A LOT OF IT TOO REMEMBER GOES WITH THE UPGRADING OF A LOT OF THE WIRING INSIDE OF A LOT OF THESE FACILITIES TOO THAT'S OLDER IN PANELS AS WELL.

THERE'S A LOT MORE THAN JUST WHAT WE WERE TALKING BEARING IN THE TRENCHING CABLING AND VENTS.

ORIGINALLY YOU'RE CORRECT, WE WERE APPROVED FOR $100,000 FOR CITY HALL ALONE AND FUTURE OF THE FIRE HALL, WHICH WAS GOING TO BE AN ADDITIONAL COST BUT NOW WE'RE TALKING ALL FOUR.

[NOISE]

>> JUST A QUESTION OF STAFF THROUGH YOU.

HOW MANY KILOWATTS IS THE GENERATOR THAT WE'VE ORDERED? IT'S HOW MANY AMPS DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

IT'S HOW MANY KILOWATTS WE CAN SPLIT UP NUMEROUS 100 AMP SERVICES, OFF OF A GENERATOR DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE GENERATOR, HOW MANY KILOWATTS DO WE ORDER, OR DO WE HAVE ON ORDER?

>> HARD, IS THAT A 100 KILOWATT?

>> I HAVE TO GO BACK IN MY NOTES GERALD FOR THAT INFORMATION HERE.

>> IN THE MEANTIME, COUNCILLOR MANN.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I THINK TO COUNCILLOR CYR'S POINT.

I THINK TO ME THIS IS A NEED, NOT A WANT.

IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY, I TRULY HOPE THAT THE MAYOR AND MR. GAGNON WE'RE NOT SHARING A FLASHLIGHT AT 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT IN THE COMMITTEE ROOM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GUIDE THE COMMUNITY THROUGH A DISASTER.

I THINK IT'S TIME NOW TO SERVICE THESE BUILDINGS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SERVICING IT WITH THE RIGHT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

THAT'S WHY I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME SCALE SO I

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UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE THREE BUILDINGS AND WHAT LOAD IS IN THOSE FOUR BUILDINGS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. IN SOME WAYS, I DON'T WANT TO ADMIT BUT IT'S GIBBERISH TO ME, THE AMPERAGE, AND WATTAGE, AND WHATEVER.

THE ONE THING I DO KNOW IS THAT I CAN'T DISAGREE WITH COUNCILLOR CYR ANYMORE BUT THIS IS KEEPING OUR CITIZENS SAFE.

IF WE DON'T HAVE OUR ESSENTIAL SERVICES THAT CAN BE RUNNING AND BE CONNECTED AND BE IN A CRISIS IF ANYTHING, THIS COMMUNITY HAS PROVEN TO ME SINCE LIVING HERE IS THAT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE TO HAPPEN HERE.

TO THINK THAT WE ARE SITTING HERE AND THAT WE COULDN'T BE WITHOUT POWER.

I'VE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY AND BEEN OUT OF POWER FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS SEVERAL TIMES SINCE I MOVED HERE OVER 40 YEARS AGO.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OUR SERVICES CAN BE CONNECTED THEN CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE REST OF US.

FROM WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING IS THIS IS ALMOST LIKE AN UPSET LIMIT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT SURE YET IF IT'S 1000 AMP THAT YOU'RE NEEDING BUT THAT'S THE MAXIMUM I THINK THAT YOU THINK THAT YOU MIGHT NEED.

I LIKE OPTION 3 BECAUSE IT'S STAGED.

YOU'VE EXPLAINED WHERE THE $50,000 IS COMING FROM THIS YEAR I BELIEVE, EVEN YOU SAID THAT THE FACILITY'S RESERVED AND WE ALREADY BUDGETED $100,000 SO I'M OKAY WITH PROCEEDING WITH OPTION 3.

I THINK THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY SAFE AND I THINK THAT OTHER THAN THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ALL THE OTHER STUFF.

WHAT MATTERS TO ME IS WE KEEP THE COMMUNITY SAFE.

OF COURSE, THE MONEY IS IMPORTANT, BUT I'M TRUSTING STAFF WILL MAKE THE BEST EDUCATED DECISION BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WITH THE EDUCATION AROUND THIS.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT WAS SAID, WE HAVE A DUTY TO ENSURE THAT OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES AND OUR CITY HALL ARE FUNCTIONAL IN TIME OF NEED.

WITHOUT POWER, RADIOS DON'T WORK.

ANYWAYS NOT EVEN GOING TO GO THERE.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE PLAYED WITH.

WHAT I AM CURIOUS ABOUT IS WHO ARE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, BECAUSE IT'S CERTAINLY NOT ME? WHAT IS THE ADVICE WE'VE RECEIVED ON THE SIZE WE NEED AND WHO IS IT FROM? SHOULD THIS GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND COME BACK TO COUNCIL IN TWO WEEKS? THAT'S WHAT I SEEM TO BE HEARING HERE IN THE BACKGROUND BECAUSE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL SEEM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE DECISION ON THE SIZE OF THE EQUIPMENT AND THE EXPENSE.

IT WOULD GIVE ME A GREAT DEAL OF COMFORT IF MR. HOLLOCH COULD COME BACK TO US OR TELLS US NOW THAT THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS SAID THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED AND THIS IS WHY. THANK YOU.

>> JUST TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, I KNEW TIMING WAS IN THERE.

I ALSO KNEW THAT AT ONE POINT AT OUR LAST COMMITTEE MEETING WE'D CANCELED OUR JULY MEETING AS WELL.

THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I TALKED TO MR. DOYLE WHO ALSO TALKED TO THE ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR AND DID THE WALK-THROUGH OF THE FACILITIES.

I DON'T KNOW IF MR. DOYLE IF WE LOOKED AT THE POSSIBILITY OF GOING TO A SMALLER UNIT OR DO WE WANT TO STICK WITH WHAT WE GOT BACK FROM THEM AND STICK WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION?

>> PROBABLY WHAT WE ASKED FOR WAS 100 KILOWATT, AND AS I WAS MENTIONING BEFORE THAT THE CITY HALL ROUGHLY DRAWS ABOUT 200 AMP.

THAT WAS LOOKING THROUGH HYDRO BILLS, ETC.

THEN WE WENT THROUGH THE OTHER BUILDINGS WITH A BIT MORE RESEARCH.

WE CAN PROBABLY NAIL IT DOWN TO SOMETHING THAT'S A BIT SMALLER, BUT THE ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR WAS STATING THAT THAT'S WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE, AND WITH THE 1000 AMP TRANSFER SWITCH, THAT'S WHAT'S FEEDING THE CITY HALL CURRENTLY.

WE CAN GO SMALLER, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SMALLER, AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN COST, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT WOULD BE FOR THE TRANSFER SWITCH AND THE GENERATOR.

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>> WHAT ABOUT TIMING? WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?

>> IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT GOING TWO WEEKS, IT'S GOING TO SET YOU BACK TO TWO MORE WEEKS FOR SURE.

>> OKAY, IN THE PROJECT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS TIMING OF THE PROJECT.

WE CAN COME BACK WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH AND BRING IT TO EVEN IN THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I THINK WHAT'S BEEN DEMONSTRATED TONIGHT IS WHY YOU'D HAVE TO BRING THINGS TO THE COMMITTEE BEFORE YOU BRING IT TO COUNCIL.

I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

I JUST DON'T LIKE THE ANSWERS THAT ARE BEING SUPPLIED. I THINK THEY'RE TOO VAGUE.

THESE ARE THE KIND OF QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD AT THAT COMMITTEE.

IF YOU NEED TO HAVE A SPECIAL COMMITTEE MEETING, I'M SURE WE CAN HAVE ONE HELD ON.

I THINK COUNCILLOR PATRIE'S QUESTIONS AND COUNCILLOR MANN'S QUESTIONS ARE VERY LEGITIMATE.

AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T WANT THE BUILDING'S NOT TO HAVE ANY PROPER POWER FOR THEM AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, SO I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS CAN YOU PLEASE COME BACK TO A COMMITTEE, NOT TO COUNCIL, BUT COME TO THE COMMITTEE, AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

GIVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS A CHANCE TO DELVE INTO THIS THING PROPERLY, SO WE'VE GOT ANSWERS FOR COUNCIL WHEN THEY ASK THEM. THANK YOU.

>> AM GOING TO PUT A MOTION TO DEFER, BUT I DON'T KNOW, COUNCILLOR PEARCE CHAIRS THAT COMMITTEE, I DO BELIEVE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE WISH OF COUNCIL IS TO SEND THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE OR JUST TO DEFER IT TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO AND MEET WITH MR. DOYLE TOMORROW AND GIVE HIM A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION THAT I COULD HELP HIM WITH.

IF THIS IS 100 KILOWATT GENERATOR WITH A 400 AMPS SERVICE, I THINK WE BETTER START SHOPPING.

I THINK A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS ON THAT ISN'T SAYING SORRY, AND I'LL GIVE THEM SOME FEEDBACK AS TO WHY.

>> JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, THAT'S THE ORIGINAL 100-WATT, THE ONE WE ORDERED UP NOW.

THE ONE WE'RE ASKING FOR, THAT'S THE MORE EXPENSIVE ONE.

>> IF I MAY, YOUR WORSHIP.

I GET THAT, BUT EVEN AT $100,000 FOR A 100-KILOWATT GENERATOR WITH ONE 400 AMP SWITCH IN IT, WITH ONE RELAY IN IT, THAT'S AN ASTRONOMICAL AMOUNT OF MONEY.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO A 1000 AMP TRANSFER AND YOU'RE NOT INCREASING THE 100-KILOWATT, BECAUSE A 100 KILOWATT WILL RUN ALL THOSE BUILDINGS, WHICH IS NOT A LARGE GENERATOR.

I'LL GLADLY MEET WITH YOURSELF, MR. ALLOCA AND MR. DOYLE AND GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT AND SOME POTENTIAL PHONE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY TALK TO THAT ARE PROFESSIONALS IN THE FIELD THAT I'VE DEALT WITH IN THE PAST.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE DEFERRAL THAT IT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL, IF THE MEMBERS WANT IT GO TO COMMITTEE FIRST.

I DON'T WANT TO JUST KILL IT EITHER.

>> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY TOO THAT THE $100,000 APPROVED IS THE PAD THAT HELPS THE WORK INSIDE THE TRANSFER SWITCH IN THE END.

I BELIEVE THE ACTUAL GENERATOR IS CLOSER TO $50,000 I WOULD JUST PURCHASE IT.

>> I'M IN FOR A MOMENT.

I DON'T WANT US TO BE IN A PREDICAMENT WHERE WE HAVEN'T SUPPLIED OUR FACILITIES AND OUR POWER STOPS JUST AT OUR FACILITY.

IF THE CITY HALL'S UTILIZING THE 200 AMPS, DOING SOME QUICK MATH, GUARANTEE THE OPP STATION IS UTILIZING ANOTHER 200 AMPS.

THE FIRE HALL IS PROBABLY UTILIZING ANOTHER 200 AMPS AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER 200 FOR THE AMBULANCE SERVICE, THAT ADDS UP PRETTY QUICK TO 800 AMPS BEING SPLIT OFF 1000 AMP, DOING SOME MATH IS ABOVE 480 VOLTS.

WE GET IN A SITUATION, I'M ALL ABOUT THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, I DON'T WANT US TO BE SCREWED IN A SITUATION WHERE THE POWER GOES OUT, WE HAVE AN ICE STORM AND SUDDENLY WE DON'T HAVE PROPER COMMUNICATION WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLD BECAUSE WE CHIPPED OUT ON EQUIPMENT.

THAT'S A VERY BIG CONCERN.

I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH OFF-GRID POWER FOR OVER A YEAR NOW,

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AND THE ONE THING THAT I'VE LEARNED IS DON'T SHORT YOURSELF.

YOU DON'T WANT TO SHORT YOURSELF.

THAT'S MY CONCERN. I DO APPRECIATE, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU HAVE AN EXPERT LOOK AT THE WHOLE SITUATION AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR STRIP OF EMERGENCY SERVICES ARE NOT SHORT OF POWER BECAUSE THAT CAN CAUSE LOSS OF LIVES IN THE FUTURE.

IF WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS DEFERRED TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING TO HAVE THIS COMPLETELY CLEAR, SOMEBODY CAN PUT FORWARD THAT DEFERRAL NOW. COUNCILLOR PEARCE?

>> YEAH, I DON'T REALLY CARE WHETHER IT GOES TO COMMITTEE OR IT GOES TO COUNCIL.

I WOULD PREFER IT WENT TO A COMMITTEE INITIALLY, BUT OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME HERE.

LET'S BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL, BUT PLEASE COULD WE HAVE SOME OF THESE REALLY FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS ANSWERED SO THAT, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ON COUNCIL WANTS AN EMERGENCY TO OCCUR WHEN WE DON'T HAVE POWER, BUT WE REALLY DO NEED TO HAVE THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED BEFORE WE CAN MAKE THAT A DECISION.

I DON'T THINK TWO WEEKS IS GOING TO DELAY THE INSTALLATION OF THIS THING, A WHOLE HECK OF A LOT.

IT JUST ISN'T GOING TO, IT SHOULDN'T DELAY THE INSTALLATION THAT MUCH.

>> THE MOTION TO DEFER TO JULY 12TH- [OVERLAPPING].

>> COUNCILLOR PATRIE HAS ALREADY DONE THAT AND I WOULD CERTAINLY SECOND HIM.

>> ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THAT DEFERRAL? COUNCILLOR TURNER? YOU'RE MUTED COUNCILLOR TURNER.

>> I WAS READING YOUR LIPS AND THOSE WERE SOME NICE COMMENTS.

I APPRECIATE IT. I LIKE YOU TOO COUNCILLOR TURNER.

>> YES.

THANK YOU FOR THE RACE.

IF WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE, COULD WE COME BACK WITH AN EXPERT OPINION? ARE THERE ELECTRICAL ENGINEERS WHO CAN ADVISE US, LOOKING UP BUILDINGS TO GENERATORS AND POWERING ALL THE NEEDS OF THOSE DIFFERENT FACILITIES AND GIVE COUNCIL THE COMFORT OF EXPERT ADVICE? THAT'S WHAT I LOOK FORWARD TO IT. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON DEFERRAL? SEEING NONE, I WILL ROLL CALL VOTE. COUNCILLOR FINNEMORE.

>> I'M IN FAVOR, THAT'S CARRIED.

[NOISE] THANK YOU.

14.2 BY-LAW, 21-55 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE LEASING ON CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY THE MUNICIPALITY.

CAN I HAVE A MOVER PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR CYR, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINNEMORE.

MR. GAGNON, JUST IF YOU CAN GIVE US A QUICK DOWNLOAD, THIS MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA THAT COUNCIL HAD PUT IN FRONT OF YOU A FEW MONTHS BACK.

>> THIS IS AN OPEN SESSION VERSION OF THE CLOSED SESSION DIRECTION WE HAD, WHICH WAS TO LEASE THE AIRPORT HANGAR TO THIS NEW CORPORATION.

THEY'RE ANXIOUS TO GETTING TO THE BUILDING AS EARLY AS JULY 1ST, AND WE'RE ANXIOUS TO HELP FACILITATE THAT SO THAT THEY CAN START TO PAY RENT REVENUE, AND TAXES FROM IMPACT AS WELL.

THE MANDATE WE HAD FROM COUNCIL WAS TO BRING THIS BACK WHEN IT'S AN OPEN SESSION, THE PROPONENTS HAS SIGNED AND IS PREPARING THE INSURANCE PAYMENT.

I THINK IT WILL BE A DUE STORY AND I'LL BE WORKING WITH THE PROPONENT TOMORROW TO ISSUE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE BUSINESS, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A NEW TENANT FOR OUR AIRPORT HANGER.

> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, QUERIES BEFORE GO TO VOTE, COUNCILLOR PATRIE?

>> I'M OPPOSED TO THIS LEASE WHERE WE'RE VIRTUALLY GIVING WAY AND DEVALUING OUR PROPERTY.

AVERAGE LEASE RATES ARE ANYWHERE FROM &11 TO $14 A SQUARE FOOT AND WE'RE GIVING THIS AWAY AT 3, 4, AND $5 A FOOT OVER A THREE-YEAR PERIOD.

I JUST THINK THAT IT IS WAY TOO LOW.

THIS ISN'T A NEW VENTURE, THIS IS VIRTUALLY THE SAME TYPE OF STUFF THAT WAS IN THERE BEFORE, JUST A DIFFERENT OWNER OPERATING IT.

I CANNOT AGREE TO THESE LOW RATES OF GIVING AWAY CITY FACILITIES FOR SUCH CHEAP MONEY. MY ONLY OPINION.

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THERE IS ONE CLAUSE IN THERE THAT'S A CONFIDENTIALITY CLAUSE.

THAT'S A MOOT POINT BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT, SO THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF THIS DOCUMENT SHOULDN'T BE IN THERE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.

JUST STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR TURNER.

THANK YOU; 14.3 CORRESPONDENCE FROM [INAUDIBLE] POTENTIAL LITIGATION OF [INAUDIBLE] AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH LITIGATION OR POTENTIAL LITIGATION AFFECTING MUNICIPALITY, AS WELL AS ADVICE THAT IS SUBJECT TO SOLICITOR-CLIENT PRIVILEGE.

IT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION AS PER SECTION 239(2)(E) AND (F) OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT.

MOVER TO PUT THAT IN CLOSED SESSION.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN.

SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, ANY QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? SEEING NONE, A ROLL-CALL START WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

COUNCILLOR MANN? IN FAVOR.

A CLOSED SESSION, THANK YOU.

THAT'S IT FOR THE ADDENDUM.

FIFTEEN INTRODUCTION TO THE CONSIDERATION OF BYLAWS;

[15. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF BY-LAWS]

15.1 BY-LAW 21-48 BEING A BY-LAW THAT PROHIBIT, REGULATE NOISE IN MUNICIPALITY AND TO REPEAL BYLAW 96-66.

CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR CYR.

JUST TO BE QUITE CLEAR, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A NOISE BYLAW IN ELLIOT LAKE FOR ALL THOSE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

THIS IS AN UPDATE TO IT WHICH HAS ACTUALLY REMOVED SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS AND JUST ADDED A LITTLE BIT OF GRAPHIC FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT WITH THE DECIMALS.

BUT THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A NOISE BYLAW.

[LAUGHTER] I'M SORRY. COUNCILLOR PEARCE? YES, THANK YOU, YOUR LORDSHIP.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

I FIND IT FASCINATING SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE.

NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP YOUR DOG FROM BARKING AS I WALK BY YOUR HOUSE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU, YOU CAN'T HONK YOUR HORN WHEN SOMEBODY CUTS YOU OFF AT THE INTERSECTION.

WE ARE GOING TO TELL THE MAYOR THAT HE CAN'T SQUEAL HIS TIRES IN THE PARKING LOT.

BUT THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER STORY.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH THIS AND I COMMEND NATALIE, MRS. BRAY, AND HER STAFF FOR THE JOB THEY'VE DONE ON THIS.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH ALL OF THE BYLAWS IS TO UPDATE THEM, BRING THEM INTO THE 21ST CENTURY, MAKE SURE THAT THEY ADHERE TO ALL THE REGULATIONS LAID DOWN BY THE PROVINCE AND/OR POTENTIALLY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND WE UPDATE THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO DETERMINE THE DECIBELS.

BECAUSE THEY HAVE THESE LITTLE DECIBEL METERS.

THE DECIBEL METERS WILL BE SET TO CONFORM BY THE MANUFACTURERS.

THERE'LL BE SET, THEY'LL BE CALIBRATED.

PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND BUY THEM. WE ALL HAVE THEM.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE WALKING AROUND YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, POINTING THEM AT YOUR HOUSE, UNLESS WE GET A COMPLAINT THAT YOU'RE HOLDING A PARTY AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND IT'S VERY, VERY LOUD, THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMEBODY WITH A CALIBRATOR.

BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT. THIS IS A VERY VERY, I THOUGHT A VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT BYLAW, AND AGAIN, I COMMEND BYLAW PLANNING AND THE CLERK FOR THE INCREDIBLE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING IN THIS AREA. THANK YOU.

COUNCILLOR PEATRE? I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE BYLAW IS IT USED TO BE ILLEGAL TO DO SNOW REMOVAL ON THE WEEKEND, ON SUNDAYS, AND ON HOLIDAYS.

WE HAVE NOW REMOVED THAT FROM THE BYLAW.

SO ANYBODY THAT DOES NEED TO DO SNOW REMOVAL IN THE WINTER AT ANYTIME, SO THAT THEY CAN GET OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY WHEN THE [INAUDIBLE] COMES BY 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT [INAUDIBLE] YOU WIN.

IF YOU'RE WORKING THE MIDNIGHT SHIFT, YOU CAN CLEAN YOUR DRIVEWAY, SO THAT YOU CAN GO TO WORK.

THERE WAS SOME STUFF IN THIS BYLAW THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED MANY YEARS AGO, BUT IT WAS A GREAT HOUSEKEEPING THAT WAS DONE TO THIS.

[NOISE] ALL RIGHT.

I WOULD POINT OUT THAT YOU CAN ALSO MOW YOUR LAWN NOW ON SUNDAY, WHICH YOU COULDN'T DO BEFORE. THERE YOU GO.

NEXT, WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE FORCE PARKING BY-LAW AND THAT'S IN THE FUTURE TO COME.

[LAUGHTER] ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS WITH 15.1? BEING NONE, ROLL CALL STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR MANN.

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THANK YOU; 15.2 BYLAW 21-49, BEING A BYLAW TO REGULATE SMOKING IN PUBLIC PLACES AND WORKPLACES IN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AND REPEAL BYLAW 19-08.

A MOVER, PLEASE.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

ANY QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES WITH THIS UPDATED BYLAW? SO NONE.

ROLL CALL STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

I'M IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED ALSO, 15.3 BYLAW, 21-51 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE THE ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE CULVERT ON ESTON DRIVE SOUTH, A MOVER, PLEASE.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEATRE, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES WITH THIS ONE? [NOISE] BEING NONE, A ROLL-CALL, I'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR TURNER.

I'M IN FAVOR, THAT'S CARRIED; 15.4 BYLAW 21-52 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE THE ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR THE PROVISION OF RESIDENTIAL GARBAGE COLLECTION SERVICES WITHIN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AND THEN A MOVER FOR THAT.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

AGAIN, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, A ROLL-CALL.

I'M GOING TO START WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

THANK YOU; 15.5 BYLAW 21-53 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE THE ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR THE PROVISION OF CURBSIDE AND DEPOT RECYCLING COLLECTION SERVICES WITHIN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE.

[NOISE] MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE, ROLL-CALL. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.