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[1. CALL TO ORDER ]
CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER THIS REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE COUNCIL FOR THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE MONDAY, AUGUST 23, 2021 THE TIME IS 7:01 P.M..I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE ON THE TRADITIONAL LANDS OF THE ANISHINAABE PEOPLE AND THE ROBINSON-HURON TREATY. AS FAR AS ROLL CALL, ALL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING.
WELCOME EVERYONE. I'D ASK IF THERE'S ANY DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
[3. DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST ]
COUNCILOR FINAMORE.I'D LIKE TO DIRECT AND I'D LIKE TO AN INDIRECT PECUNIARY CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ITEM SIX POINT THREE ON THE AGENDA.
OK, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DECLARATIONS THIS EVENING? ONCE, TWICE, THREE TIMES, SEEING NONE.
ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES, FOUR POINT ONE, AUGUST 9TH, 2021, REGULAR CAN I HAVE A MOVER
[4. ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES ]
TO ADOPT THE MINUTES, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILOR CYR SECOND COUNCILOR FINAMORE.ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS OR CONCERNS, COUNCILOR PATRIE.
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP AT THE LAST MEETING, THE MINUTES WERE BROUGHT UP WITH THE FACT THAT THERE WAS AN ERROR IN THE MINUTES THE CAO WAS GOING TO GO BACK AND CHECK THE TAPES.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF HE HAS GONE BACK THAT ITEM WAS NOT DEFERRED.
FROM THE AGENDA. JULY 26, 2021, MEETING? CORRECT. HAS THAT BEEN REVISITED MS. BRAY? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF THE MINUTES WERE ACCEPTED, THOUGH, AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY FIND OUT AND I CAN SEND AN EMAIL TO ALL OF COUNCIL ADVISING.
THANK YOU. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOUR WORSHIP, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE HAVE THEM BROUGHT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH CLARIFICATION WHETHER WAS DEFERRED OR WHETHER IT WAS REMOVED. I JUST DON'T WANT MINUTES SITTING IN OUR BOOKS THAT ARE APPROVED INCORRECTLY.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO HAVE THEM BROUGHT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH CLARIFICATION.
IS THERE A SECONDER FOR THE REQUEST? SECOND BY COUNCILOR MANN.
ANY QUALMS OR CONCERNS? OK I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILOR PEARCE.
IN FAVOR. OK, COUNCILOR PATRIE.
IN FAVOR. I'M IN FAVOR, THAT'S CARRIED.
THANK YOU. BACK TO THE ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES FOUR POINT ONE. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? ALREADY MOVED AND SECONDED, AND I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILOR PATRIE. IN FAVOR.
IN FAVOR. AND I'M IN FAVOR, THOSE ARE CARRIED.
4.2 READING OF RESOLUTION PASSED BY WHILE IN CLOSED SESSION OF AUGUST 9, 2021 MEETING MS. BRAY, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.
MOVED BY COUNCILOR MANN, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR PEARCE THAT THE REPORT OF THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DATED JULY 22, 2021 BE RECEIVED, AND THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE SALE OF PART SEVEN OF [INAUDIBLE] 31623-0096 ON PLAN R4129.
MUNICIPALLY KNOW AS LOT 14 LOCATED ON FOX DRIVE TO ABR SEAMLESS AND THAT THE NECESSARY BYLAW AUTHORIZING THE AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE OF SALE BE PREPARED FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, AND THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE ACCESS AGREEMENT WITH ABR SEAMLESS AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR AND CLERK TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT.
THANK YOU. THERE'S NO PUBLIC PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.
[6. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS ]
SIX INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS, SIX POINT ONE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS INVESTING IN CANADA INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM GREEN STREAM DEDICATED WATER LINE SERVICING THE NORTH INDUSTRIAL SITE.THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS DATED AUGUST 18, 2021, BE RECEIVED BY COUNCIL, SUPPORT AN APPLICATION TO THE ICIP GREEN STREAM PART TWO APPLICATION TO FUND THE WATER SERVICE LINE PROJECT FOR THE NORTH INDUSTRIAL AREA.
[INAUDIBLE] MUNICIPALITY COMMIT TO FUNDING TWENTY SIX POINT SIX SEVEN OF ELIGIBLE PROJECT COSTS UP TO FOUR HUNDRED EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLARS AND [INAUDIBLE] TO FACILITATE THE GRANT APPLICATION.
AND THAT THE MUNICIPALITY COMMIT THE SANITARY PORTION OF THE PROJECT COST OF 1 MILLION 55 THOUSAND NOT COVERED BY THAT FUNDING AND SUBJECT TO ICIP FUNDING APPROVAL.
THE PROJECT BE PRE-APPROVED FOR 2022 CAPITAL PROJECT.
CAN I HAVE A MOVER? MOVED BY COUNCILOR PATRIE, SECOND BY COUNCILOR CYR.
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MR. HALLOCH, IF YOU WOULD BE.FOR BACKGROUND FOR EVERYBODY AT HOME, IS THE INVESTING IN CANADA INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM, ICIP, IS A FEDERAL PROVINCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM DESIGNED TO CREATE LONG TERM ECONOMIC GROWTH, BUILD INCLUSIVE, SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT COMMUNITIES, AND SUPPORT A LOW CARBON ECONOMY.
THE FIVE PRIORITIES WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THEM ARE THE PUBLIC TRANSIT, GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, COMMUNITY CULTURE AND RECREATION, RURAL AND NORTHERN COMMUNITIES, AND COVID-19 RESILIENT INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTING MORE THAN SEVEN POINT ONE TWO BILLION OVER 10 YEARS IN THE FIVE MAIN PRIORITY STREAMS AND HAVE MOSTLY RECENTLY, SORRY OPENED A SECOND INTAKE FOR THE GREEN STREAM WITH A DEADLINE OF SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2021.
JUST FOR BACKGROUND AS WELL, ADDING ON TO THE REPORT, WE DID APPLY FOR FOR STAGE ONE, WE APPLIED TO REPLACE THE ACTUAL WATER MAIN AND SANITARY LINES UNDER THE LAKE THAT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THAT ARE AGING AND NEED TO BE REPLACED.
AND WE WERE UNSUCCESSFUL AT THE TIME.
SO A LOT OF IT WAS BACK THEN IT WAS GOING TO BE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE STREAMS THAT THEY WERE SAYING. SO NOW WE'RE BACK INTO THE GREEN STREAM AND WE'VE GO TO STAGE TWO.
SO THIS INTAKE WILL PROVIDE UP TO TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY MILLION IN COMBINED FEDERAL AND PROVINCIAL FUNDING. AND WILL PRIORITIZE DRINKING WATER PROJECTS THAT ADDRESS CRITICAL HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH WATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND INCREASED ACCESS TO POTABLE WATER. AGAIN, THERE'S WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE.
SO BASICALLY IN STAGE TWO APPLICATION IS REQUESTING A PROJECT THAT INVOLVES THE COMPLETE INSTALLATION OF APPROXIMATELY TWELVE HUNDRED METERS OF WATER MAIN AND SANITARY SEWER PIPE RUNNING ALONG HIGHWAY 108 FROM TIMBER ROAD SOUTH TO LAKEVIEW DRIVE.
THIS WOULD REPLACE THE CURRENT WATER LINE AND SANITARY THAT'S UNDER THE LAKE THAT IS AGING OUT, RIGHT NOW.
ONE OF THE THINGS AS WE LOOKED A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO IT, IT'S BETTER TO CAP THINGS LIKE THIS OFF AND THEN RUN THE OTHER ONES.
IT'S MORE AND MORE ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE TO ACTUALLY REMOVE THE PIPING.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S NOT IN THE PRICING OF THIS.
SO BASICALLY, THE CURRENT WATER MAIN FEEDS THE NORTH INDUSTRIAL AREA IS CLOSE TO CLOSE TO FAILURE, RESULTED IN CONTINUOUS LINE BREAKS THAT HAVE PLACED THE ENTIRE NORTH INDUSTRIAL AREA IN SEVERAL [INAUDIBLE] WATERS.
THERE ARE SEVERAL CLAMP SYSTEMS DOWN BELOW ON THAT LINE AS WELL.
IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, THE CITY HAS PROBABLY SPENT IN EXCESS OF ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND BECAUSE YOU NEED SPECIALIZED DIVERS TO GO UNDERNEATH AND FIX THESE LINES.
SO ONE OF THE BIG REASONS WHY WE'RE GOING AFTER THIS PROJECT, INSTALLING THE NEW LINES ALONG THE HIGHWAY, WILL ALLOW THE CITY TO PROVIDE BOTH SERVICES TO THE M&R PROPERTY, [INAUDIBLE] ROAD FUTURE.
WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO GO DOWN THAT WAY EVER IN THE FUTURE.
AND OUR BOAT LAUNCH AREA SO WE CAN PUT AN ACTUAL [INAUDIBLE] IN THERE WITH WITH ACTUAL WATER AND SEWER AS WELL, WHICH WOULD BE A BIG ADVANTAGE TO SUCH A NICE LOCATION ALREADY, BASICALLY. ANOTHER ADVANTAGE IN THE LINES ARE ACCESSIBLE TO CITY WORKERS AND IF ANY FUTURE REPAIRS ARE REQUIRED A POST, A LINE LOCATED UNDER THE LAKE.
THE CITY HAS RELIED MORE HEAVILY ON A REACTIVE AND TIME BASED ASSET INTERVENTIONS RATHER THAN PROACTIVE INTERVENTIONS, WHICH HAS CAUSED ISSUES FOR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES. ONE OF OUR BIGGEST WORRIES IS WHEN IT BREAKS UNDER THERE, DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF YEAR, YOU'RE ALWAYS WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO COME FROM OUT OF TOWN.
IT ALSO AFFECTS THE ABILITY TO PUT FIRES OUT IN THIS AREA AND THEN WATER THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE COUNT ON. AND THERE IS A LOT OF BUSINESSES OUT HERE.
SO FOR FUTURE AS WELL, IF WE'RE LOOKING TO SELL PROPERTY, THAT'S A BIG FEATURE, TOO, THAT YOU WANT TO BE VERY RELIABLE.
SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, AS YOU SEE THE BREAKDOWN, THE ESTIMATED BUDGET FOR THE PROJECT, INCLUDING CONTINGENCY OF THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND, IS ONE POINT EIGHT MILLION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ICIP PROGRAM GUIDELINES OF [INAUDIBLE] IT IS THE BREAKDOWN. SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE GREEN APPLICATION TOO, THE GREEN APPLICATION IS ONLY COVERING WATER.
SO WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE SANITARY AND STUFF, SOMETIMES YOU CAN PIGGYBACK OFF IF YOU'VE GOT ALL THE RIGHT THINGS COMBINED.
WE TRIED THAT IN THE FIRST STAGE.
IT DIDN'T WORK, BUT IT'S MAINLY COVERING WATER.
SO YOU'LL SEE THE BREAKDOWN MUNICIPALITY WOULD BE COVERING FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THOUSAND AND SIXTY DOLLARS, WHICH IS TWENTY SIX POINT, I BELIEVE, THREE PERCENT OF THE ACTUAL PROJECT.
PROVINCIAL COVERS. CLOSE TO 600,000 AND THE FEDERAL SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND.
NOW THAT'S COVERING THE WATER END OF THE ACTUAL PIPE GOING FROM TIMBER ROAD SOUTH TO LAKEVIEW DRIVE. NOW, THE PROJECT IS ESTIMATED TO COST A TOTAL OF TWO POINT EIGHT TWO MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES.
AND THAT NOW IS INCLUDING YOUR SANITARY AND EVERYTHING PUT INTO THE MIX AS WELL.
SO, OF COURSE, YES, WITH EXCAVATION AND STUFF, WE'VE GOT A HIGHER END ON THE WATER END, BECAUSE NOW YOU COULD ADD YOUR SANITARY TO IT JUST FOLLOWING ALL THE PROPER RULES, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE A DISTANCE OF ANOTHER TWO FEET BELOW THE ACTUAL WATER PIPE.
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AND THAT'S USUALLY HOW IT RUNS, WHEN RUNS SANITARY AT THE SAME TIME.IF APPROVED THROUGH THE ICIP GREEN STREAM, MUNICIPALITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THOUSAND PLUS.
IT WOULD BE THE SANITARY PORTION OF ONE, JUST ONE MILLION FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND.
SO YOU'D BE LOOKING AT A TOTAL OF ONE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND AND SIXTY DOLLARS. BASICALLY SUPPORTING THE APPLICATION TO STAGE TWO ICIP GREEN STREAM PROJECT WILL ADDRESS ANY POSSIBLE FUTURE HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES WITH THE FAILING WATER MAIN LOCATED UNDER THE LAKE PROVIDED NORTH INDUSTRIAL AREA.
THE RELOCATION OF BOTH THE WATER AND SANITARY WILL ALLOW THE CITY TO SERVICE [INAUDIBLE] PROPERTY BOAT LAUNCH AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ALONG [INAUDIBLE] ROAD, AS WELL AS A LOT EASIER FUTURE FIXES IF THERE IS ANY PROBLEMS. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH. YOU ANSWERED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS.
I SEE SOME HANDS UP, STARTING OUT.
IS THERE A POTENTIAL TO PIGGYBACK ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING, SAY, FROM I KNOW HFC OR FED NOR AS THIS IS, SERVICING POTENTIALLY NEW RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL AND ALSO OUR INDUSTRIAL? LOOKING ON THAT TUNE, I WILL CONFIRM IT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE YOU CAN STACK TWO WITH ANOTHER ONE, SO IT LOOKS LIKE, I BELIEVE UP TO 70 PERCENT OR 75 PERCENT OF SHOWING ON THE REMAINING VALUE. SO I'LL CONFIRM THAT 100 PERCENT, THOUGH.
BEYOND THAT, BEYOND THAT SO, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU COULD USE THINGS LIKE [INAUDIBLE] AND ALL THE REST, BUT THAT'S JUST GENERALIZED.
SO I'LL SEE IF YOU CAN STACK IT WITH OTHER FUNDING APPLICATIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION.
COUNCILOR PATRIE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.
ADDITIONALLY, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF STUFF LIKE THIS COMING STRAIGHT TO COUNCIL, BUT I DID SPEAK WITH MR. HALLOCH ON THIS WHEN I WAS SPEAKING WITH HIM REGARDING SOME OTHER MATTERS.
AND IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS NOW, BECAUSE THE DEADLINE IS SEPTEMBER 9TH.
I WANT HIM TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.
I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT HE HAS PUT THIS APPLICATION IN SUBJECT TO ICIP FUNDING.
I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY IF WE DON'T GET THE FUNDING.
BUT I'M 100 PERCENT IN FAVOR OF GETTING THAT SEWER LINE OUT OF THE LAKE, AND IF WE CAN GET FUNDING TO HELP US GET THAT OUT OF THERE, I, I AGREE.
MR. HALLOCH, WE'RE VERY LUCKY SO FAR WITH ALL THE CLAMPS AND ALL THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE YEARS TO THAT UNDERWATER LINE, THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A CATASTROPHE THAT HAS COST US OUR DRINKING WATER.
SO IF WE CAN GET FUNDING AND YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S A BONUS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SERVICING ADDITIONAL AREAS. BUT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR IS TO GET THAT WASTEWATER LINE OUT OF OUR DRINKING WATER LAKE.
SO I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT IN FAVOR OF THIS, AND I SURE HOPE THAT THEY GIVE US THAT FUNDING. I WOULD LIKE WHEN THIS DOES COME BACK, I WILL WHEN IT GETS TO BUDGET, I WILL BE ASKING NOT TO INCREASE THE BUDGET IN THE WATER WASTEWATER FOR THE 2022 CAPITAL.
EVEN IF WE ARE APPROVED FOR THIS FUNDING, I WILL ASK THAT TO COME OUT OF RESERVES, BECAUSE THERE ARE RESERVES IN THAT FUND FOR THAT.
BUT I'LL DEAL WITH THAT AT THAT TIME.
I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE AN EXTRA MILLION DOLLARS ON TOP OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE NEEDING TO ASK FOR FOR INCREASES IN THE WATER WASTEWATER BUDGET FOR 2022.
THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT MR. HALLOCH. CLEARLY, AS COUNCILOR PATRIE SAID, WE DO NEED TO CAP OFF THAT 50 YEAR PIPE AS SOON AS WE CAN, AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS FUNDING.
MY QUESTION, HOWEVER, IS WE HAVE TWO SIGNIFICANT CULVERTS, ALONG 108, ONE AT WESTVIEW PARK AND THE OTHER JUST AS THE INDUSTRIAL AREA BEGINS.
CLEARLY, OBVIOUSLY, WITHOUT WATER DOES FEED INTO ELLIOT.
HOW DOES THE PIPE GO THROUGH THOSE TWO AREAS? OH, YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE I'VE ASKED THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED ON BOTH OF THOSE. SO RIGHT NOW WHAT YOU'RE NOTICING AND YOU'LL NOTICE A FEW OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, THEY ACTUALLY RUN THOSE LINES, AND IF IT'S A WATER LINE, THEY'LL RUN THEM WITH THE PROPER INSULATION ON TOP OF THEM.
SOMETHING ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT WILL RUN ACTUALLY ALONG A CULVERT OR THROUGH THERE.
SO IT'LL BE ABOVE GROUND AND THEN HEAD BACK UNDERGROUND FOR THE INITIAL SIX FEET OR WHATEVER. WE'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING IT DOWN BELOW.
BUT THAT'S USUALLY HOW THEY'LL DO IT.
JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BIGGER WATERWAYS, IT'S HARD TO HOLD THAT WATER BACK AND DIG IT AND PUT IT UNDERNEATH. AND THEN ANY FUTURE REPAIRS ARE ARE OBVIOUSLY A CHALLENGE.
SO SO WE'RE LOOKING TO RUN THAT ABOVE IT.
SO WHEN TALKING TO THE ENGINEERS AND IF APPROVAL HAPPENS, I WOULD HOPE TO RUN IT ALONG THE SIDE OF BOTH CULVERTS.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? OK, SEEING NONE ROLL CALL, STARTING WITH COUNCILOR PATRIE.
THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU. SIX POINT TWO REPORT OF THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER
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APPOINTMENT TO THE MISSISSAGI PARK COMMISSION FOUNDING BOARD OF DIRECTORS.RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER DATED AUGUST 19, 2021 BE RECEIVED, AND THAT COUNCIL APPOINT MR. DANIEL GAGNON AS CITY REPRESENTATIVE ON THE MISSISSAGI PARK COMMISSION FOUNDING BOARD.
CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILOR PEARCE, SECONDER? SECOND BY COUNCILOR CYR. THANK YOU.
MR. GAGNON, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.
SURE. COUNCIL WILL RECALL THAT WE ARE POISED TO INCORPORATE A NEW THIRD PARTY ENTITY WITH OUR TWO PARTNERS IN MISSISSAGI FIRST NATION [INAUDIBLE] FIRST NATION, IN AN EFFORT TO JOINTLY MANAGE THE MISSISSAGI PARK AND DISCUSS WHAT THE CROWN WOULD THEN BE LOOK LIKE, AND HOPEFULLY END UP WITH THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT FOR THIS NEW PARK COMMISSION AS A THREE [INAUDIBLE] PARTNER PARTNERSHIP.
WE RECENTLY HAD A STAFF CHANGE IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA, SO WE WOULD NEED TO REPLACE THE STAFF PERSON WHO WAS APPOINTED TO THAT COMMISSION.
THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS WAS ONE COUNCILOR AND ONE STAFF MEMBER.
SO I'M RECOMMENDING ME FOR THE COMMISSION.
I HAVE SOME CONTEXT AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROJECT AND PLAYERS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME URGENCY IN THE SENSE THAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO GET GET TO WORK AND HAVE IT'S INAUGURAL MEETING AND GET MOVING SO THAT WE CAN START TO TALK THROUGH THE PROBLEMS. THANK YOU.
IT'S UP TO COUNCIL, OF COURSE, WHO THEY APPOINT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ME, COULD BE ANYONE.
COUNCILOR PEARCE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU, AS I'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH MR. GAGNON EARLIER TODAY, THE.
HE BRINGS A GREAT DEAL OF KNOWLEDGE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE COMMISSION IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD.
THIS IS FAIRLY CRUCIAL RIGHT NOW.
THE COMMISSION DOCUMENTS ARE READY TO BE SIGNED, WHICH WOULD MAKE MEMBERS THE FOUNDING DIRECTORS OF THE COMMISSION, ALTHOUGH A COUPLE OF LITTLE TWEAKS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE WITH IT, ONE OF WHICH IS THAT IT'S NO LONGER GOING TO BE CALLED A COMMISSION.
WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE WHY, BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE A PROBLEM FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN TERMS OF US CALLING IT A COMMISSION.
SO WE'LL COME UP WITH A NEW NAME WHEN WE MEET ON THURSDAY.
THE COMMISSION, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD RIGHT NOW, WILL MEET ON THURSDAY.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL COME TO A COMPLETE AGREEMENT ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THE CHANGES WE NEED TO MAKE. WE CAN SIGN OFF ON THOSE, AND THAT WOULD THEN BE INCORPORATED AND WE CAN BEGIN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE GOVERNMENT AS AN ENTITY REPRESENTING THE THREE COMMUNITIES.
AND I THINK MR. GAGNON WILL BE A VERY, VERY GOOD CHOICE TO HELP US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
IS GOING TO BE A BIT DIFFICULT SINCE WE HAVE AN ELECTION IN SERPENT RIVER.
BUT I'VE BEEN ASSURED BY CHIEF [INAUDIBLE] THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD EVEN DURING THE ELECTION. THEY WANT TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
AND THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PATRIE.
THANK YOU, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, BUT THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.
BASED ON THE COMMENTS OF COUNCILOR PEARCE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THAT MEETING ON THURSDAY IS AN OPEN MEETING.
AND CAN ALL OF COUNCIL ATTEND THESE MEETINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING ABOUT THE MISSISSAGI FIRST NATION? BECAUSE I'VE NEVER HAD AN INVITE TO ANY OF THEIR MEETINGS.
AT THE MOMENT NO, THESE ARE FOUNDING MEETINGS.
THE COMMISSION MEMBERS WILL BRING BACK REPORTS TO THEIR RESPECTIVE COMMITTEE COUNCILS, BUT THEY RESERVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR DISCUSSIONS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
INTERESTING COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE, AND THEY WANT THAT KIND OF THING, BUT THEY, THEIR FULL REPORT WILL BE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL ONCE THE COMMISSION HAS COME TO AN AGREEMENT.
THOUGHT THIS WAS A COMMITTEE OF THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AT THIS POINT UNTIL THIS COMMISSION IS. NO.
BUILT, CAN WE? SO THERE'S NO TRANSPARENCY REQUIRED.
IT JUST NO, IT IS NOT A COMMISSION.
A COMMITTEE OF ELLIOT LAKE COUNCIL.
ELLIOT LAKE IS APPOINTED TWO MEMBERS TO THE TO THE COMMISSION, TO THE COMMITTEE THAT IS FORMING THE COMMISSION. THAT IS ALL THEY HAVE.
SO THIS IS REALLY A THREE COMMUNITY GROUP.
WE'RE GOING TO BE AS OPEN AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
BUT WE DO HAVE TO HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE THAT WE CAN MAKE COMMENTS BETWEEN OURSELVES AND COME TO AN AGREEMENT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THAT'S THE REASON WHEN THERE'S LEGAL STUFF AND PERTINENT STUFF THAT HAS TO GO IN CLOSED SESSION, THAT YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT TO
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GO INTO CLOSED SESSION. BUT I STILL BELIEVE, I WOULD NEED THE CLERK'S ASSISTANCE.BUT I THOUGHT THAT WE APPOINTED WE CREATED THIS BOARD.
WE STARTED THIS AS A MUNICIPALITY, AND THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A BOARD OF THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE UNTIL WE TRANSFER THIS OUT.
BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GET CLARIFICATION OF THAT AT THIS MEETING.
BUT I WOULD REQUEST THAT, AND I GUESS I'LL HAVE TO SPEAK WITH THE CLERK REGARDING THAT MATTER, UNLESS HIS WORSHIP CAN CLARIFY AND TELL ME I'M EITHER RIGHT OR WRONG, BUT AT THIS POINT, SO IF WE CAN'T ATTEND THAT MEETING, WE CAN'T ATTEND THE MEETING.
BUT MY QUESTION BECOMES, I DON'T WANT TO TIE OUR CAO INTO THIS AS BEING A BOARD MEMBER. I WOULD MUCH PREFER IT BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD DONE ORIGINALLY WHEN WE SET THE BOARD UP. I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO DO THAT.
BUT WE DO HAVE A SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT AND ASK FOR AN AMENDMENT THAT IT BE ACTUALLY MR. ANTUNES THAT CAN SIT ON THE BOARD.
OUR CAO HAS OVERSIGHT AT ALL OF THESE MEETINGS.
HE HAS RESOURCE AT ALL OF THESE MEETINGS BECAUSE THIS IS A CITY BOARD.
AND BUT I WILL GET CLARIFICATION FROM OUR CLERK ON THAT.
AND I WOULD PREFER AND I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR THAT WE AMEND THAT TO BE MR. ANTUNES. AT THIS TIME.
IS THERE A SECONDER FOR THE AMENDMENT? OK, NO SECONDER FOR THE AMENDMENT.
JUST CLARITY ON ON THE COMMISSION, I THINK MR. GAGNON OR MS. BRAY THIS WAS SET UP AS AN OUTSIDE TRI-PARTY COMMISSION IN ORDER TO NEGOTIATE TERMS FOR AN OFFICIAL BOARD.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, AT THIS POINT IN STAGE, THERE IS NO NEED FOR TRANSPARENCY UNTIL IT BECOMES AN OFFICIAL BOARD, AND EVEN AFTER THAT, IT DEPENDS ON THE INCORPORATION ARTICLES. AGAIN MR. GAGNON SORRY.
YEAH MS. BRAY CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT MY IMPRESSION IS THIS IS NOT A MUNICIPAL BOARD WHATSOEVER.
IT IS, AS WE JUST SAID, A PARTNERSHIP, A BRAND NEW NATION CORPORATION THAT IS GETTING OFF THE GROUND. WE ARE ONLY TWO OUT OF SIX PARTNERS, SO WE ONLY HAVE ONE THIRD VOTE.
WE ARE PROCEDURAL BY LAW AND OUR MUNICIPAL ACT AND TRY TO PACK IT ON EVEN WORSE IN THE CASE OF WE'RE OUTNUMBERED BY OUR INDIGENOUS PARTNERS.
WE CAN'T TAKE OUR PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES AND PUT IT ON TO THIS BOARD.
THE ONLY DISCRETION COUNCIL HAS IS APPOINTING TWO MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
YOU UNDERSTAND COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THE PRINCIPLES AT PLAY AND WE'RE MOVING ALONG, AS THIS PICTURE CLARIFIES.
WE CAN CERTAINLY INCORPORATE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
NONE OF OUR PARTNERS OR THE CITY ARE INTERESTED IN.
NOT ADHERING TO THOSE GENERAL PRINCIPLES, BUT WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S ON THE AGENDA HERE THIS EVENING IS WHO WOULD YOU LIKE TO APPOINT TO REPLACE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER ON THE COMMISSION? THANK YOU. COUNCILOR MANN.
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.
WHO IS REPRESENTING IF IT'S IF WE'RE ABLE TO FIND OUT THE OTHER TWO PARTNERS? ARE THEY ELECTED OFFICIALS, ARE THEY ARE THEY INDIVIDUALS WITH A SIMILAR ROLE AS MR. GAGNON TO THEIR COMMUNITIES? COUNCILOR PEARCE. OH, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP IF I MAY RESPOND.
EACH OF THE MEMBER COMMUNITIES HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME THING ONE, COUNCILOR AND ONE STAFF MEMBER IN THE CASE OF SERPENT RIVER, JACK.
I'M SORRY, I FORGOT HIS LAST NAME ALL OF A SUDDEN, TRUDEAU.
HOW COULD I FORGET? JACK TRUDEAU IS IS THE COUNCILOR AND [INAUDIBLE] IS THE STAFF MEMBER IN THE SAGAMOK FIRST NATION IS STACY [INAUDIBLE] AND KEITH.
KEITH? SOMEBODY HELP ME OUT HERE, ANYWAY.
WHO REPRESENTS THEM. SO AGAIN, ONE COUNCILOR, ONE.
ONE STAFF MEMBER. THAT'S EXACTLY [INAUDIBLE].
I HAD A SIMILAR I HAD A SIMILAR FEELING TO COUNCILOR PATRIE REGARDING APPOINTMENTS, AND TYPICALLY WE HAVE MR. GAGNON AVAILABLE SIMILAR TO YOU YOUR WORSHIP KIND OF EX OFFICIO TO ALL COMMITTEES.
BUT I THINK BASED ON THE RATIONALE THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TONIGHT, I WOULD I WOULD SUPPORT
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THIS FOR THE INAUGURAL POSITION.JUST AGAIN, IT'S AN EXTRA BURDEN, I THINK, FOR MR. GAGNON TO TAKE ON.
AND I JUST KIND OF COGNIZANT OF THAT WITH THE BALANCE OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, ESPECIALLY IN THE INFANCY OF THIS GROUP.
THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.
I'M MORE OR LESS FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MR. GAGNON HAS A LOT OF BACKGROUND IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND I THINK THIS IS CRUCIAL TO THIS ASPECT. I DO SHARE A LOT OF COUNCILOR PATRIE'S CONCERNS WITH.
ENSURING THAT THERE IS AS MUCH TRANSPARENCY AND OPENNESS AS POSSIBLE.
OUTSIDE MORE OUTSIDE BOARDS THAT AREN'T AT ARM'S LENGTH.
SO I WANT TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS AT LEAST A STRONG VOICE OF OUR CONCERNS IN THAT RESPECT. I MEAN, IF THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG LASTING PARTNERSHIP, THAT HAS TO BE CRUCIAL IN IN THE DISCUSSIONS AND IN THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION, THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF MEASURES OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR EVERYBODY.
AND SO BUT AS FAR AS THE RECOMMENDATION, I'M MORE THAN CONFIDENT THAT THE BOARD CAN BENEFIT WITH MR. GAGNON'S VAST EXPERIENCE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COUNCILOR TURNER, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE.
ANYTIME I KNOW YOUR VIDEO'S IS NOT THERE, JUST SAY A WORD AND WE'LL GET YOU IN THERE.
COUNCILOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.
I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH MR. GAGNON TAKING ON THE ROLE IN THIS WAY BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE EX OFFICIO, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL. SO I KNOW HE BRINGS AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEGUN.
I WANT TO THANK MS. VLAHOVICH FOR THE WORK THAT SHE DID.
SHE'S ALREADY DONE ON THIS COMMISSION AND HELPED BRING IT TO THIS POINT.
AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT MR. GAGNON AND MS. AND COUNCILOR PEARCE CAN CARRY IT, BRING IT TO FRUITION AND THAT EVERYONE IN THE AREA WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS TRI-PARTY RELATIONSHIP.
I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP THAT WE ARE BEGINNING AS WE HAVE MANY PROJECTS WE WANT TO WORK WITH OUR WITH OUR FIRST NATIONS NEIGHBORS.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? OK, SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE ROLL CALL STARTING WITH COUNCILOR CYR.
JUST A REVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE VOTING? OK. THAT THE REPORT OF THE CAO DATED AUGUST 19, 2021, BE RECEIVED, AND THAT COUNCIL APPOINT MR. DANIEL GAGNON AS CITY REPRESENTATIVE ON THE MISSISSAGI PARK COMMISSION FOUNDING BOARD.
IN FAVOR. I AM IN FAVOR, THAT'S CARRIED.
REPORT OF THE SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER RE: CENTENNIAL ARENA FACILITY USE AGREEMENT WITH ELLIOT LAKE RED WINGS.
RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER DATED AUGUST 19, 2021 BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL AUTHORIZE THE ENTERING INTO THE AGREEMENT.
THE CENTENNIAL ARENA FACILITY USE AGREEMENT WITH THE ELLIOT LAKE RED WINGS AS PRESENTED.
MOVED BY COUNCILOR PEARCE, SECOND BY COUNCILOR MANN AND MR. ANTUNES, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.
THANK YOUR WORSHIP. GOOD EVENING.
GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
THANK YOU, AS ALWAYS, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT.
THE ELLIOT LAKE JUNIOR A HOCKEY TEAM.
AS EVERYONE SHOULD BE AWARE, HAS BEEN RENAMED THE ELLIOT LAKE RED WINGS FOR THE 2021, 2022 SEASON.
THE TEAM THAT WAS BRANDED THE WILDCATS PREVIOUSLY HAD THE AGREEMENT IN PLACE THAT EXPIRED IN 2019.
DUE TO COVID-19, THE 2020 SEASON DID NOT [INAUDIBLE] IN ELLIOT LAKE.
UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE FANS AT THE PLAYERS HENCE DELAYING THE AGREEMENT UNTIL THE 2021, 2022 SEASON.
THE IMPORTANT THING IS I TRUST ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL READ THROUGH THE AGREEMENT AND THE REPORT. THE AGREEMENT IS LARGELY A CARRYOVER FROM THE PREVIOUS FACILITY USER AGREEMENT.
SOME CHANGES NOTED BELOW IN THE REPORT TO CAPTURE SOME OF THE CURRENT REALITIES.
THE AGREEMENT IS ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA AS A BYLAW, AND THE RED WINGS HAVE AGREED TO ALL THE TERMS AND SIGNED THE AGREEMENT.
ICE TIME RATES ARE CHARGED AT THE SAME RATE AS MINOR HOCKEY.
SO IT'S AN EVEN RATE FOR OUR TWO LARGEST FACILITY USERS.
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THE USER WILL CARRY FIVE MILLION INSURANCE AND PROPERTY AND PARTICIPANT INJURY INSURANCE.SHOULD THE USER WISH TO SERVE ALCOHOL AT ANY GAMES, THEY'LL NEED TO ACQUIRE A SPECIAL OCCASION PERMIT AND PROVIDE PROOF INSURANCE.
THE CITY IS ADDITIONAL INSURED.
THE TEAM WILL PROVIDE ONE [INAUDIBLE] SECURITY GUARD FOR ALL REGULAR SEASON GAMES.
TEAM WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE RINK FOR IT'S ADVERTISING USAGE, SPACE FOR THE ZAMBONI ROOM AND THE ROOM TYPE MECHANICAL ROOM.
IMPORTANTLY, WITH THE PANDEMIC AND THE UNKNOWNS FOR THE FUTURE, THIS TEAM SHALL MAINTAIN CLEAN PROTOCOLS AS OUTLINED BY ALGOMA PUBLIC HEALTH AND HAVE A SAFETY PLAN IN PLACE AND ADHERE TO ANY FUTURE GUIDANCE.
THE FUTURE IS UNKNOWN TO ALL OF US.
SO ANY GUIDANCE THAT COMES DOWN FROM OUR COLLEAGUES AT ALGOMA PUBLIC HEALTH, THE TEAM WILL FOLLOW THAT. AS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, THE [INAUDIBLE] SPONSORSHIP FOR THE TEAM.
THE RED WINGS WILL OFFER ONE SPECIAL GAMEDAY MENU THAT WILL BE SOLD THROUGH THE CANTEEN.
AN IMPORTANT ONE, AS WELL AS THE TEAM AGREES TO REPAY THE EXISTING LOAN IN THE AMOUNT OF FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
MR. GAGNON WILL BE ABLE TO UPDATE US.
A REPAYMENT TERM IS ONE PAYMENT ON OR BEFORE SEPTEMBER 21ST.
[INAUDIBLE] SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2021, AND THE BALANCE, SECOND PAYMENT DUE AT THE END OF JUNE 2022, WHICH I BELIEVE IS IS IN HOUSE OR VERY CLOSE TO IT.
AND NOTABLY BECAUSE OF OUR CONVERSATIONS REGARDING THE NEW RECREATIONAL HUB, IN THE EVENT THAT THE CITY CONSTRUCTS [INAUDIBLE] BOTH PARTIES WILL REVISIT THE AGREEMENT AND REASSESS OUR OUR STANDING AT THAT POINT.
SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM YOUR WORSHIP OR ANY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I'M HAPPY TO HELP WHEREVER I CAN. THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES. JUST FOR CLARITY, THE TEAM IS OFFERING 25000 AS LOAN REPAYMENT AS SOON AS NEXT WEEK AND THE SECOND COME JUNE.
THAT'S 50000 LESS THAN A YEAR TO COVER OFF OUTSTANDING DEBT.
THAT'S GOING BACK ABOUT SIX YEARS, I GUESS.
THROUGH YOUR WORSHIP AND MR. GAGNON CAN CONFIRM, BUT YES, THAT'S THE CASE, THE FIRST PAYMENT, I BELIEVE, IF NOT IN HOUSE TODAY, SHOULD BE IN PROCESS BY TOMORROW WITH THE BALANCE DUE JUNE 30TH 2022.
COUNCILOR PEARCE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.
THIS IS A VERY GOOD AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TEAM AND THE CITY.
I WANT TO THANK MR. ANTUNES, MR. GAGNON AND MS. SONNENBURG FROM THE CITY SIDE FOR NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH AND MAKING SURE THE CITY'S NEEDS WERE MET. SAME TIME, PAUL [INAUDIBLE] AND HIS BROTHER AND HIS TEAM WORKED VERY, VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TEAM WAS TAKEN CARE OF.
SO I THINK WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A WIN-WIN SITUATION.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED.
ONE WAS ABOUT SECURITY, THE NORMAL SECURITY FOR THE HOCKEY GAMES.
CERTAINLY IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, THERE'S BEEN ONE SECURITY GUARD WHICH IS HIRED BY THE TEAM, AND THIS IS A LICENSED SECURITY GUARD.
IT'S NOT SOMEBODY SITTING IN SNOOZING IN A CHAIR, IT'S ACTUALLY SOMEBODY THAT DOES WALK AROUND AND MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE DONE PROPERLY.
IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS A MAJOR EVENT, SUCH AS THE MAPLE LEAF'S ALUMNI GAME, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO BE HOLDING IN NOVEMBER.
OBVIOUSLY, WE WILL HAVE INCREASED SECURITY FOR THAT KIND OF AN EVENT.
IT'S AN UNFORTUNATE I THINK AN UNFORTUNATE THING THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT BECAUSE OF INSURANCE, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE TEAM TO TAKE THAT ON.
SO WE WON'T BE SELLING ALCOHOL UNLESS WE AGAIN, WE HAVE A SPECIAL EVENTS SUCH AS THE.
THE GAME WITH THE MAPLE LEAF'S ALUMNI, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S TO BE DECIDED AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE IS A VERY PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION.
PAUL [INAUDIBLE], HIS BROTHER BRIAN, AND THE REST OF THEIR TEAM HAVE PLAYED HOCKEY AT VERY SENIOR LEVELS.
THEY'VE COACHED HOCKEY AND THEY'VE MANAGED HOCKEY TEAMS. THEY HAVE A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE RESPECTED IN THE JUNIOR HOCKEY THROUGHOUT ONTARIO. THEY KNOW THEIR STUFF AND THEY BRING THINGS, BRING A SENSE OF PROFESSIONALISM TO
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THE HOCKEY TEAM. I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE US ALL VERY, VERY PROUD OF THE KIND OF THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO.I THINK A COUPLE OF INDICATIONS OF HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS, THE DEBT WILL BE REPAID.
I KNOW IN DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCILOR MANN OVER THE OVER THE YEARS, THAT WAS A MAJOR ISSUE, AND THE DEBT WILL HAVE BEEN PAID DOWN BY HALF BY THIS TIME NEXT WEEK AND COMPLETELY PAID OFF BY JUNE OF 2022.
THE TEAM, WHEN WE HAD OUR TRYOUTS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD TRYOUTS FOR THE TEAM IN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, USUALLY IN THE PAST COACHES WENT DOWN TO [INAUDIBLE] AND OTHER PLACES TO LOOK AT OTHER PEOPLE'S TRY OUTS TO SEE IF WE COULD STEAL SOME OF THEIR PLAYERS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T LEAD TO THE BEST TEAMS THEY COULD PUT ON THE ICE. SO WE HAD 92 PLAYERS COMING IN ELLIOT LAKE.
AND THE IMPACT THAT HAD ON THIS ONE WEEKEND IN TOWN WAS VERY, VERY VISIBLE.
WHO ANYBODY WHO RUNS A RETAIL BUSINESS OR A RESTAURANT IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I THINK I'D BE REMISS WITHOUT MENTIONING THE.
THE VOLUNTEER BOARD OF JUNIOR A HOCKEY CLUB THAT HAS WORKED VERY, VERY TIRELESSLY OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS TO TRY AND KEEP HOCKEY ALIVE IN ELLIOT LAKE AND BRING A SENSE OF PROFESSIONALISM TO THE COMMUNITY IN PARTICULAR.
LARRY [INAUDIBLE], DARLA HENNESSEY, MAGGIE FENNIMORE, WHO ACTUALLY WILL NO LONGER BE A MEMBER OF THE BOARD BECAUSE OF HER DUTIES, JUST TAKEN UP TOO MUCH TIME.
WILLIAM ELLIOTT AND IN PARTICULAR [INAUDIBLE].
WHO I THINK I SPENT MANY, MANY SLEEPLESS NIGHTS OVER THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS AS WE DEALT WITH DEBT AND SOME BAD DECISIONS IN TERMS OF COACHES AND TEAMS AND ALL THE REST OF THAT STUFF. SO I'M VERY HAPPY THAT THIS AGREEMENT HAS FINALLY COME BEFORE COUNCIL.
I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT IT BE SIGNED OFF ON AND THAT WE CAN GET ON WITH HAVING A VERY GOOD HOCKEY TEAM IN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE GOING FORWARD FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
COUNCILOR MANN. THANK YOUR WORSHIP.
THANK YOU TO THOSE INVOLVED WITH GETTING IT TO THIS POINT, AS SOME OF COUNCILOR PEARCE'S COMMENTS, IT IS ABSOLUTELY VERY NICE TO SEE ON ESSENTIALLY AN AGREEMENT WITH AN ORGANIZATION, A REPAYMENT PLAN IN WRITING.
AND ABSOLUTELY I APPRECIATE THE TEAM FOR FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD WITH THE WITH THE DATES INVOLVED. I HAVE I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS.
I HAVE REACHED OUT TO STAFF TODAY.
ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO ENSURE WAS THAT THE ICE TIME CHARGES WERE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE OF MINOR HOCKEY.
I'VE BEEN ASSURED THAT THEY ARE THAT THEY ARE DIRECTLY COMING OUT OF THE USER FEE BYLAW, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN CHARGE.
AND SO WITH OUR USER FEE BYLAWS, I THINK THERE ARE POTENTIALLY SOME SOME SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE WITH THE USER FEE BYLAW.
BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND WE DO THAT AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR 2022.
SO HAVING SAID THAT, I DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS AS WELL.
TO COUNCILOR PEARCE'S POINT, AGAIN, REGARDING SECURITY AND IF THERE IS GOING TO BE ALCOHOL SALES AND I THINK AT MINIMUM TWO SECURITY GUARDS NEED TO BE PRESENT.
I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE.
SPECIAL GAME DAY MENU ITEM AND HOW THAT WORKS INTO OUR CANTEEN AND THE LOGISTICS OF THAT AND OUR APPROPRIATE STAFFING.
SO THAT'S ONE QUESTION THAT I WILL POSE.
AND I GUESS THAT THE LARGER ONE IS WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT BEFORE US TONIGHT.
WHO IS THE AGREEMENT WITH? IS THIS AGREEMENT WITH THE BOARD OR IS THIS WITH THE MANAGEMENT GROUP? BECAUSE THE ELLIOT LAKE RED WINGS ISN'T SUFFICIENT ENOUGH IN MY MIND.
AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A TWEAKING THAT WE NEED TO DO.
BUT WHO IS THIS AGREEMENT WITH? I JUST NEED TO BE SURE ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
WE'VE ALWAYS DEALT WITH THE BOARD.
NOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH THE BOARD AND IT'S MORE OF THE TEAM.
I JUST NEED THAT KIND OF CLARIFIED, BECAUSE IF IT IS THE BOARD, THEN I THINK THE BOARD SHOULD BE REPRESENTED IN BOTH THE REPORT AS WELL AS THE SUBSEQUENT BYLAW 21-73.
SO I GUESS THOSE WOULD BE MY TWO QUESTIONS FOR NOW.
THANK YOU. MR. ANTUNES, CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE AGREEMENTS THAT COUNCILOR MANN POSED? YES. YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.
AND ONE THING THAT BE REMIS NOT TO MENTION MS. BRAY AS WELL WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN ASSISTING WITH THE PROCESS.
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SO I DIDN'T WANT HER LEFT OUT OF IT.SHE'S BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN THE PROCESS AS WELL IN ASSISTING STAFF AND GETTING THIS PUT TOGETHER.
TO ANSWER THEM, TO TRY TO ANSWER COUNCILOR MANN IN ORDER THE SPECIAL MEUN DAY ITEMS THAT ARE ON THERE. IT'S SOMETHING TO BE DONE THROUGH THE TEAM, AND IT'S ONE ITEM THAT WOULD BE ADDED ON FOR CERTAIN GAMES, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE TEAM PUTS FORWARD.
BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CANTEEN STAFF TO BRING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE UP AT THE CANTEEN AS A WHOLE. WE FOR THOSE OF US THAT HAVE VISITED THE GAME OVER THE YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN HIGH POINTS AND LOW POINTS IN SERVICE AND QUALITY OF PRODUCT OFFERINGS OF THE CANTEEN AND THE CITY'S WORKING TO STAFF EXCUSE ME.
THEY'RE WORKING TO BRING THAT UP TO A BIT OF A HIGHER LEVEL.
WE ARE INCLUDING A BIT OF AN UPDATE TO OUR POINT OF SALE SYSTEM.
SO AS FAR AS ADDING ONE OR ONE MENU ITEM OR ONE SPECIAL THING TO AN EVENT OR A GAME, THEY WOULDN'T REALLY ADD MUCH IF IT'S JUST A SPECIFIC ITEM FROM DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TEAM.
IT WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT THAN A PACKAGE OF LICORICE OR SOMETHING ELSE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE PREMADE AND PRE DONE.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CANTEEN IS GOING TO MAKE OR ASSEMBLE OR PUT TOGETHER.
I'M JUST GOING TO PICK AN ITEM, AT RANDOM.
AND SO IF IT'S A HAMBURGER, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE THERE GRILLING BURGERS AND PUTTING THEM TOGETHER AND TOPPING IT THE WAY YOU LIKE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S ESSENTIALLY IT'S JUST A PREPACKAGED ITEM, AS IF ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WOULD OFFER THE CANTEEN, WHETHER IT'S POPCORN OR CHIPS OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
AS FAR AS THE AGREEMENT NAME, WE FOLLOWED WHAT WAS DONE BEFORE THE LAST TWO AGREEMENTS THAT HAD GONE THROUGH WERE NAMED BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE ELLIOT LAKE WILDCATS.
THAT'S THE NAME THAT WAS ON THE AGREEMENT, THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENTS.
AND WE JUST FOLLOWED SUIT WITH THE SAME.
IF THE IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILOR MANN.
FOLLOW UP FOLLOW UP YOUR WORSHIP.
YEAH, IT DOES, BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION THEN IS, IS THAT SUFFICIENT? WHAT? WHO OWNS THE ELLIOT LAKE RED WINGS NAME? IS IT THE BOARD OR IS IT THE MANAGEMENT GROUP? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A AND I SEE COUNCILOR PEARCE READY TO JUMP IN.
AND I KNOW HE'S GOING TO I JUST WANT TO GET TO FINISH THIS.
I'M SORRY. I JUST I WANT TO ENSURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING HOLDS EVERYBODY IN GOOD FAITH MOVING FORWARD. I HAVE SPOKEN TO MR. [INAUDIBLE] ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS MYSELF, AND WE'VE HAD SOME VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATIONS, WHICH I'VE APPRECIATED ABOUT THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD, AND I'M QUITE COMFORTABLE WITH IT. BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS AGREEMENT ISN'T JUST WITH A NAME, THAT IT'S WITH SOME TYPE OF ENTITY AS WE AS WE WE'RE GOING TO COMMIT TO FOR THE NEXT. FIVE YEARS.
THANK YOU. COUNCILOR PEARCE, I THINK I CAN ANSWER THAT, BEING OUR REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BOARD. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP TO ANSWER COUNCILOR MANN.
THE AGREEMENT IS WITH THE MANAGEMENT GROUP.
MANAGEMENT GROUP IS GUARANTEEING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING THIS TEAM IN ELLIOT LAKE FOR FIVE YEARS. THE BOARD WILL ESSENTIALLY BEGIN TO STEP BACK AT THE END OF THE 21 22 SEASON. AND AT THAT POINT, WHATEVER AGREEMENT WE REACHED WITH MR. [INAUDIBLE] AND HIS TEAM, THAT WILL BE BETWEEN US AND HIM, BUT WE WILL ESSENTIALLY STEP BACK. WE WILL NOT DISSOLVE BECAUSE IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, IF PERHAPS.
SO AS I YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY, IT'S NOT WORKING OUT, I'M GOING TO LEAVE.
AND PART OF THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH HIM IS THAT HE WOULD WE HAVE THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL TO PURCHASE THE TEAM BACK FROM HIM.
HE CANNOT TURN AROUND AND SELL IT AND WALK AWAY.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HOCKEY STAYED HERE.
YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE MANAGEMENT GROUP WITH PAUL [INAUDIBLE] AND HIS GROUP.
THE BOARD WILL STILL BE ACTING IN OVERSIGHT FOR THE 21 22 SEASON, BUT WE WILL BEGIN TO STEP BACK AFTER THAT.
OK, THANK YOU. MR. ANTUNES YOU HAD SOMETHING TO ADD TO THAT? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.
THE OTHER ITEM OF NOTE HERE, COUNCILOR MANN IN THE AGREEMENT ITSELF HAS THE REPAYMENT TERMS. SO IN ESSENCE, AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2022, WITH THE SECOND REPAYMENT ITEM, THE AGREEMENT BEING WITH THE TEAM OR THE MANAGEMENT GROUP OR THE BOARD, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE GOING FORWARD.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT THE CITY WOULD BE OUT AS IN PREVIOUS AGREEMENTS WHEN THERE WAS A
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LONGSTANDING DEBT REPAYMENT PROGRAM.SO REALLY, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, IF THE SECOND REPAYMENT ISN'T DONE AT THE END OF JUNE OF 2022, THEN THE AGREEMENT BECOMES NULL AND VOID.
AT THAT POINT A`S COUNCILOR PEARCE SAID THAT THE BOARD WOULD JUMP BACK IN, BUT IF IT IS DONE, WHICH WE IN GOOD FAITH BELIEVE THAT IT WILL BE DONE.
THERE'S REALLY IT'S A CLEAN SLATE FROM THAT POINT.
SO THE TEAM ISN'T INTO THE CITY TO USE THE VULGAR TERM, BUT IT FOR FOR ANY LARGE AMOUNT AT THAT POINT. THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES. COUNCILOR PATRIE.
FIRST OFF, I'M EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED THIS DIDN'T COME TO COMMITTEE FIRST.
I HAVE A MULTITUDE OF QUESTIONS.
THE FIRST PART. I'LL FOLLOW WHAT COUNCILOR MANN WAS SAYING IS IT THE RED WINGS? IS IT THE MANAGEMENT BOARD? THIS AGREEMENT SHOULD BE WITH THE CORPORATION.
IT'S A USER FEE AGREEMENT WITH A CORPORATION.
COUNCILOR PEARCE JUST SAID THAT THIS IS A PURCHASE.
NOW, IF THE PURCHASE DOESN'T FINALIZE UNTIL THE END OF FIVE YEARS, I STILL DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. AND IF IT'S SOMEBODY BUYING THE NOT FOR PROFIT, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT EITHER. I'M VERY PLEASED TO SEE AN AWFUL LOT OF STUFF IN THIS REPORT THAT IS HERE.
THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION PUT FORWARD, BUT I HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH SOME SERIOUS WORDING.
SO I WANT TO GO YOUR WORSHIP IF YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH IT ALL AT ONCE, AND THEN MR. ANTUNES CAN MAYBE COME BACK OR MR. GAGNON, BECAUSE WHEN I SPOKE TO MR. ANTUNES, IT WAS MAINLY MR. GAGNON THAT DID MOST OF THIS PRELIMINARY INFORMATION.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT ME TO DO THIS.
YOUR WORSHIP, DO YOU WANT ME TO DO IT SLOWLY OR GO THROUGH IT ALL AND SEE IF THEY CAN ANSWER THEM ALL AT THE END? I THINK YOU CAN PROBABLY GO THROUGH YOUR ALL YOUR QUESTIONS, COUNCILOR PATRIE, AND EVERYONE HAS A REPORT IN FRONT OF THEM.
I THINK MR. ANTUNES CAN PROBABLY HIGHLIGHT THE SPECIFIC AREAS SO HE CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. OK, SO FIRST OFF, IS IT A NEW CORPORATION? SO IS THE PURCHASE ALREADY TRANSPIRED AND IT'S GOING TO BE A NEW CORPORATION, OR IS IT THE OLD NOT FOR PROFIT CORPORATION? NUMBER ONE, WHEN YOU GET INTO THE AGREEMENT IS WHERE MOST OF MY ISSUES ARE.
THE AGREEMENTS SHOULD BE MADE BETWEEN THE CORPORATION AND THE CITY.
IT SHOULDN'T BE BETWEEN THE ELLIOT LAKE RED WINGS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST A NAME.
THERE'S NOBODY THERE. THERE'S NO LIABILITY.
THERE'S NO PROTECTION FOR THE MUNICIPALITY.
ITEM ONE, ICE TIME AND COSTS I HAVE ON A GREAT AND I SPOKE TO MR. ANTUNES ABOUT THIS.
THIS IS A VERY FAIR RATE THAT WE'RE USING FOR MINOR HOCKEY.
I WOULDN'T EXPECT IT TO BE ANYTHING DIFFERENT WHEN WE GET INTO THE USER FEE BYLAW HAVE FURTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THIS.
BUT FOR THIS AGREEMENT, I HAVE NO ISSUES BECAUSE IT DOES MIRROR WHAT MINOR HOCKEY IS PAYING. THE ISSUE BECOMES WHO WILL MONITOR? AND DO THEY HAVE TO BOOK THESE IN ADVANCE? WHEN YOU GET TO ITEM 10, INSURANCE AND LIABILITY.
I HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH THE FACT THAT THEY ONLY HAVE TO DO FIVE MILLION DOLLARS IN PROPERTY DAMAGE AND PARTICIPANT INJURY COVERAGE IN THE AMOUNT OF NOT LESS THAN FIVE MILLION DOLLARS. I WANT THAT WORDED IN THERE THAT WE ARE PROTECTED, THAT THEY ARE LIABLE FOR. LIABILITY, FIVE MILLION DOLLARS IN LIABILITY ACROSS THE BOARD.
SAY HIS WORSHIP AND I WALKED INTO THE ARENA BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE A MEETING WITH OUR FACILITIES MANAGER AND THERE'S A HOCKEY GAME GOING ON AND ONE OF US GETS HIT IN THE HEAD WITH A PUCK. WE'RE NOT THERE TO BE A PARTICIPANT WITH THE HOCKEY GAME, BUT WE'VE BEEN HIT BY A PUCK AND THEY ARE NO LONGER LIABLE FOR THAT DAMAGE.
SO THAT LIABILITY HAS TO BE WORDED INTO THAT CLAUSE.
AND I ALSO WANT IN THERE PROVIDED THAT THE CITY PROVIDED TO THE CITY ANNUALLY FROM THE INSURER. SO THAT IF THERE IS EVER A CANCELATION OR ANYTHING.
THE INSURANCE COMPANY IS LIABLE TO US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOTIFIED.
I'M NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH IT'S A VERY LARGE FACILITY, AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE GETTING THE CROWDS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO MAKE THIS FEASIBLE BASED ON COUNCILOR PEARCE'S COMMENTS. I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN TO BUY THE TEAM ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE,
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USED TO GENERATE HOCKEY.THEY'RE SIMILAR TO THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH OVER THE YEARS FROM OTHER FACTIONS OF, IN A WAY, JJ AND JUNIOR A HOCKEY AND SO FORTH.
THEY'RE ALL BUSINESS PEOPLE AND THEY OFTEN MAKE MONEY AT IT.
AND IF THEY CAN MAKE MONEY AT IT, THEY'RE GOING TO STAY IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND I DON'T WANT THEM TO LEAVE.
I WANT THIS TO WORK. BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE TWO SECURITY OFFICERS.
THE RINK BOARDS I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, BECAUSE THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WAS TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS ALL IN.
AND NOW WE'RE GIVING THEM TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THE RINK BOARDS.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THE RINK BOARDS CONSIST OF THAT I BELIEVE COULD BE QUITE SUBSTANTIAL. ANOTHER FIVE TO TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND IF THOSE RINK BOARDS COULD BENEFIT NOT JUST THIS, NOT FOR PROFIT, BUT MINOR HOCKEY, THE OLD TIMERS, THE FIGURE SKATERS, THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF USER GROUPS.
SO I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE ADVERTISING OF THE RINK BOARD ISSUE.
AND THEN THERE'S THE FACT THAT THERE'S SOME DOUBLE STANDARDS IN THERE ABOUT NOTHING CAN HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ALCOHOL.
BUT THEN WE'RE GOING TO SAY THAT THEY CAN SERVE ALCOHOL.
SO THERE'S SOME ISSUES WITH THAT.
BUT I'LL WORK WITH THAT AFTER.
IT SAYS THAT THE GAMES, DATES AND TIMES MUST BE PROVIDED AT LEAST THREE DAYS PRIOR TO REQUESTED ADVERTISING DATE.
I WOULD WANT THAT TO BE WORDED THREE WORKING DAYS.
THEY CAN'T TELL US FRIDAY AT FOUR O'CLOCK THAT THEY NEED THEM UP.
AND IT'S A LONG WEEKEND, MONDAY, AND WE CAN'T DO THIS BY TUESDAY.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE THREE WORKING DAYS.
SPACE USAGE, I THEY HAVE EXCLUSIVE USE TO THE FOLLOWING AREAS, WHICH IS SUBSTANTIAL AREAS IN THIS WORDING CHANGES THAT I THINK HAVE TO BE DONE IN THERE, BECAUSE SOME OF THAT IS SPACES THAT ARE UTILIZED BY MORE THAN ONE GROUP.
SO THERE'S SOME ISSUES THAT I BELIEVE THAT HAVE TO COME BACK REJIGGED IN THERE.
YOU CAN'T. THIS BECOMES A LEGAL DOCUMENT AND WE CAN'T.
HAVE OXYMORONS IN HERE, IT'S GOT TO BE BLACK OR WHITE, IT CAN'T BE THAT, WELL, YOU CAN DO THIS, BUT YOU CAN'T DO THIS OR YOU CAN DO THIS PART OF THE TIME.
IT'S GOT TO BE VERY [INAUDIBLE] WHEN IT'S IN THIS DOCUMENT.
SPONSORSHIP. I JUST AGAIN, I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE TEN THOUSAND DOLLAR SPONSORSHIP, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE THE TOP RANKING SPONSOR FOR THIS TEAM AND HAVE THIS TEAM MOVE FORWARD. BUT AGAIN, WE SAID THAT IT WAS A TEN THOUSAND ALL IN MAXIMUM WHEN COUNCIL MOVED FORWARD WITH THIS. SO THEN THERE'S THE ASPECT ARE THERE POOL PASSES THAT ARE GOING TO GET THROWN IN? ARE THERE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO GET THROWN IN? I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS VERY CLEAR AND [INAUDIBLE], THAT THIS IS STRICTLY ALL THAT WE'RE GIVING THEM. I DON'T WANT COUNCIL FINDING OUT LATER THAT SOMETHING IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS IN THIS PROPOSAL.
THE FOOD SERVICES I WASN'T IN AGREEMENT WITH, BUT UNTIL MR. ANTUNES SPOKE, SO THERE'S SOME CLARITY THAT I WOULD LIKE.
SO IS THE HOCKEY TEAM GOING TO PROVIDE ITEMS TO BE SOLD OR ARE THEY ASKING FOR THE REVENUE FROM ONE OF OUR ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE CANTEEN? SO THERE'S SOME CLARITY THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO THAT WORDING BECAUSE IT'S ITEM TWENTY ONE AND TWENTY TWO. DON'T GIVE YOU THE TOTAL ANSWERS TO THAT.
I'M SORRY THAT I'M GOING ON YOUR WORSHIP, BUT THAT'S WHY I LIKE STUFF TO COME TO COMMITTEE FIRST. THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE DONE AT A POLITICAL VENUE.
RIGHT. ITEM 24, THERE'S COMMENTS ABOUT ALCOHOL SALES, AND SOME OF THEM ABOUT COUNCILOR PEARCE JUST SAID THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SELL ALCOHOL AT ALL BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORTHY.
SO EITHER YOU TAKE IT COMPLETELY OUT OR YOU CHANGE THAT WORDING, BECAUSE ITEM 24 SAYS THE CITY APPROVES THE SALE OF ALCOHOL ONLY AT GAME EVENTS.
HELD BY THE USER, EVERY PRACTICE, EVERY GAME, EVERY SPECIAL GAME IS A GAME EVENT BY THAT USER. SO IT'S GOT TO BE THE WORDINGS GOT TO BE DIFFERENT.
I'M NOT A LAWYER. THIS JUST ME GOING THROUGH.
WE HAVEN'T VETTED THIS THROUGH OUR LAWYERS, I DON'T THINK.
ITEM TWENTY FIVE, MERCHANDISE SALES AT ANY OTHER EVENT MAY BE DONE WITH THE CONSENT OF THE FACILITY USER.
I'LL AGAIN, SO NOW WE'RE GIVING THE USER AUTHORIZATION TO SELL MERCHANDISE AT EVENTS THAT THEY THINK THAT THEY APPROVE THAT FOR.
SO THE WORDING IN THAT DOESN'T WORK.
TWENTY SIX AGAIN, WE HAVE THE ENDORSES ANY ALCOHOL OR CANNABIS.
SHOULD. CLEAR OVER AND ADD IN THE NOTICE PROVISION AS FOR ITEM THIRTY ONE A BECAUSE.
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IT SAYS THAT EITHER PARTY CAN TERMINATE THIS AGREEMENT.NO TIME, NO SET, NO SPECULATION.
AND THEN CLAUSE 31 SAYS TERMINATION MAY BE WITHIN TWO MONTHS NOTICE IN WRITING BY EITHER PARTY AND THEN ITEM B.
I WOULD WANT OR I WOULD ASK THAT WE PUT IN THERE THE CITY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO TERMINATE THIS AGREEMENT AT ANY TIME AS A RESULT OF BREACH OF THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT BY THE USER WITHOUT NOTICE.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM THE TWO MONTHS NOTICE.
THEY CAN STILL HAVE TWO MONTHS TO CONTINUE TO BREACH.
SO I'LL LET MR. ANTUNES TRY AND ANSWER A LOT OF THAT ONCE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SPOKEN.
I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A DEFERRAL TO BRING THIS BACK WITH THE CHANGES, MAYBE A LEGAL OPINION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THIS RIGHT.
OUR STAFF HAS NO ISSUES GETTING LEGAL OPINIONS, SO WE SHOULDN'T BE HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING THAT. BUT THIS IS.
IT'S JUST WE HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT.
WE'VE BEEN HAVING ISSUES WITH INSURANCE AND LIABILITY COMING OUT OF OUR YIN YANG LATELY.
WE'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH OUR INSURANCE COMPANY AND REPORTS COMING FORWARD.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THIS REPORT PROPERLY.
I JUST WANT IT DONE RIGHT. MR. ANTUNES, MR. GAGNON YOU HAD A COMMENT BEFORE MR. ANTUNES GETS IN THERE.
YEAH, BEFORE I RUN THROUGH THE LAUNDRY LIST, I TRY TO KEEP UP WITH COUNCILOR PATRIE AS HE WENT, AND I THINK I GOT MOST OF THEM.
BUT I'LL LET MR. GAGNON JUMP IN BEFORE I START RAMBLING.
OK. IF COUNCIL MEMBER WISHES TO HAVE MR. ANTUNES ITEMIZE EVERY CONCERN THAT COUNCILOR PATRIE HAD.
THAT'S FINE. I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I STAND BY THIS AND STAFF STANDS BY THIS.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS AGREEMENT.
I RECOMMEND YOU APPROVE IT AS IS.
WE'VE VETTED THIS THROUGH OUR INSURERS.
WE'RE SETTING UP A NEW RELATIONSHIP WITH A BOARD WHO'S GOING TO REINVIGORATE HOCKEY.
THIS IS CLARIFYING LOTS OF [INAUDIBLE].
IT WAS REFERRED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
I DON'T SEE THE MAJOR DISTINCTION BETWEEN COMMITTEE OR COUNCIL.
WE'RE HERE NOW. LET'S DEAL WITH IT.
AND I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND WE ADOPT THIS THIS EVENING SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CONTINUE TO BE COMING BACK TIME AND AGAIN.
MR. ANTUNES, IF YOU CAN HIT SOME OF THE MARKS.
CERTAINLY YOUR WORSHIP, THANK YOU. THROUGH YOU TO, COUNCILOR PATRIE, ONE OF THE DELAYS COUNCILOR PATRIE IN THE ISSUES OF GETTING IT TO COMMITTEE WAS WE WERE WAITING TO HEAR BACK ON SOME OF THE ALCOHOL RULES WITH THE AGO, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE F&A IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST AND THE METER'S RUNNING ON GETTING CLOSE TO HOCKEY SEASON.
AND ONE OF THE DELAYS WAS GETTING IT AN ANSWER AND GETTING IT TO THE TEAM TO REVIEW IN ORDER FOR THE PAYMENT CLAUSE TO TAKE EFFECT AS WELL.
AS FAR AS THE CORPORATION QUESTION, YOUR FIRST ONE, AGAIN, I REFER TO MY ORIGINAL POINT.
THE AGREEMENTS WERE ALWAYS NOT WITH THE BOARD, NOT WITH THE CORPORATION.
THE AGREEMENTS WERE ALWAYS WITH THE NAME OF THE TEAM.
IF WE GO BACK TO THE LAST TWO AGREEMENTS THAT WERE DONE.
THEY BOTH SAID THE ELLIOT LAKE WILDCATS.
SO WE KIND OF CARRY THE SAME TEMPLATE, IF YOU WILL, GOING FORWARD.
SORRY, I WAS NODDING MY HEAD WHILE YOU SAID THAT ONE; I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAUGHT IT OR NOT. BUT THE SEASON AND PRACTICES GAMES ARE ALL LAID OUT FOR THIS SEASON.
SO, YES, ALL THE GAMES ARE [INAUDIBLE] IN ADVANCE.
OUR MANAGER OF RECREATION, MRS. HENNESSEY HAS ALL THE DATES FOR GAMES AND PRACTICES ALREADY IN PLACE.
SAME, OF COURSE, THE PLAYOFFS.
AGAIN, I'M NOT THE HUGEST HOCKEY FAN, BUT I HOPE FOR THE SAKE OF THE TEAM THAT WE WILL HAVE PLAYOFF GAMES AND WE'LL HAVE THAT IN [INAUDIBLE] THAT WILL BE GIVEN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
INSURANCE LIABILITY, THE LIABILITY INSURANCE THROUGH THE TEAM FOR ALL HOCKEY OPERATIONS.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO GET YOUR COPY OF IT AS WELL.
IT'S DONE THROUGH HOCKEY CANADA.
THEY'RE WHO ENSURES THE TEAM AND TEAM OPERATIONS.
IT'S NOT AN INDIVIDUAL INSURANCE THAT THE TEAM GETS.
THE TEAM HAS GOTTEN ADDITIONAL INSURANCE THROUGH A THIRD PARTY INSURER JUST TO COVER ANY SPECIAL EVENTS THAT ARE RUN IN THE EVENT THAT THEY DO HAVE ALCOHOL AVAILABLE.
THEY'VE GOT INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR THAT.
IF THEY RUN ANY KIND OF SPECIAL EVENTS SUCH AS THE BOOT CAMP THAT HAPPENED [INAUDIBLE] THE TEAM MANAGEMENT HAS KIND OF GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE REGULAR HOCKEY [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] TO COVER THEMSELVES AND THE CITY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
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YOUR SECURITY GUARD QUESTION, AGAIN, THE I BELIEVE THE NOJHL WILL STATE ONE SECURITY GUARD [INAUDIBLE] HAD GONE [INAUDIBLE] IF THE QUESTION IS ABOUT MULTIPLE [INAUDIBLE] ALCOHOL NIGHTS. AGAIN, [INAUDIBLE] SOMETHING, [INAUDIBLE] TEAM.THE RINK BOARDS CLAUSE IN THE AGREEMENT IS A CARRYOVER FROM PREVIOUS AGREEMENTS.
THE TEAM ITSELF HAS HAD CONTROL OF THE RINK BOARDS SINCE 2014, SINCE THAT AGREEMENT.
THE [INAUDIBLE] TEAM TYPICALLY HAS CONTROL OF THESE AS THEY'RE REALLY THE PRIME DRIVER SPECTATOR TRAFFIC TO THE ARENA FOR ABOUT TWO OR THREE HUNDRED FANS FOR GAMES.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE HUMAN RESOURCES REQUIRED TO PROSPECT AND GO AND SELL THE RINK BOARDS AND LIKE THE ADVERTISING AND [INAUDIBLE] OF ARTS AND DESIGN [INAUDIBLE], ETC. SO IF I HAVE A TEAM DO THIS WORK, IT OFFERS AN ADVERTISING MEDIUM TO OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS.
YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY DURING THE PANDEMIC, IT'S A GOOD ADVERTISING BOOST FOR THEM.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT LIKELY WOULD NOT HAPPEN UNDER CURRENT CITY CONSTRAINTS.
[INAUDIBLE] THREE WORKING DAYS TO ADVERTISE GAMES, THE THREE WORKING DAYS PORTION IS MORE FOR THE PLAYOFFS WHERE WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THREE BUSINESS DAYS DEPENDING ON HOW THE TEAM DOES. AGAIN, ADVERTISING ON THE MARQUEE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM OUTSIDE IS ALREADY IN THE CARDS. SO WE KNOW WHO THE RED WINGS ARE GOING TO PLAY, YOU KNOW, FIVE FRIDAYS FROM NOW. SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT.
THE THREE BUSINESS DAY NOTICE WAS, YOU KNOW, WE MADE IT THROUGH ROUND ONE OF THE PLAYOFFS, GAME ONE OF ROUND TWO STARTS ON SATURDAY.
THAT'S WHY WE TRIED TO GET AS MUCH NOTICE IN THREE DAYS WAS FOR THE NON-SCHEDULED GAMES.
SPACE USAGE, THERE'S A CLAUSE IN THERE, AND I BELIEVE IT'S CLAUSE D THAT THE USER HAS SPACE ABOVE THE ZAMBONI RULE.
AUDIO CONTROL ROOM MUST BE ACCESSIBLE TO OTHER FACILITY USERS DURING TOURNAMENTS AND EVENTS. THE CITY WILL PROVIDE BROADCAST BEHIND THE [INAUDIBLE] BENCH, BLEACHERS.
SO THERE IS A CLEAR NOTE IN THERE REQUIRING THE TEAM OFFER ACCESS TO THE OTHER USER GROUPS FOR THE AUDIO CONTROL ROOM.
THE SPONSORSHIP AS IT STANDS WRITTEN IN THE AGREEMENT, THE SPONSORSHIP FAIRLY BLACK AND WHITE, IT'S TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE SPONSORSHIP.
WE GET OUR NAME IN CERTAIN DESIGNATED PLACES.
NOTHING LISTED IN THERE AND NOTHING THAT I'VE SEEN THAT WOULD LEAD TO SWIMMING PASSES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT SEEMS VERY BLACK AND WHITE ON THAT SIDE.
SERVICES, I THINK I COVERED PART OF THAT, BUT IF I UNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILOR PATRIE, THE ITEM THAT WOULD COME IN, THEY WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE TEAM PUTS TOGETHER WITH ONE OF THEIR SPONSORS.
AND IN THAT DAY, THEY WILL PROVIDE X NUMBER OF ITEMS FROM THAT SPONSOR.
AND IT WILL JUST BE, AS I SAID, WHETHER IT'S EQUIVALENT TO BOX OF LICORICE OR SOMETHING ELSE GOES THROUGH.
I THINK IT'S KIND OF SPLITTING HAIRS.
I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT A PRACTICE IS A GAME EVENT.
BUT AGAIN, IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CLARIFY.
WE CERTAINLY CAN. AND THE TERMINATION OF THE AGREEMENT, CERTAINLY FOR 31B, WE CAN ADD WITHOUT NOTICE IF IT BE THE PLEASURE OF OR THE WILL OF COUNCIL.
SO I HOPE I DIDN'T TALK TOO FAST.
I TRIED TO LOOK THROUGH MY NOTES COUNCILOR PATRIE TO COVER AS MANY AS I COULD WITH LIKE CHICKEN SCRATCH SCRIBBLES.
I HOPE I GOT MOST OF IT. SO FOLLOW UP, YOUR WORSHIP.
COUNCILOR PATRIE MS. BRAY, I THINK I HAD A COMMENT ALSO.
SHE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PAST.
WELL, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I JUST THROUGH YOU TO COUNCILOR PATRIE WAS GOING TO CLARIFY THAT THIS WAS DIRECTED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL THROUGH A RESOLUTION.
AND JUST TO ADD FOR THE INSURANCE CLAUSE THAT WAS RAN BY OUR INSURANCE COMPANY.
AND WE HAD ORIGINALLY HAD TWO MILLION AND THEY HAD RECOMMENDED FIVE MILLION.
SO THE TEAM HAS DONE THAT AND EVERYTHING THERE HAS BEEN VETTED THROUGH OUR INSURANCE.
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP TO YOU.
FIRST OFF, MR. GAGNON'S COMMENTS ABOUT TRYING TO SWAY THE DECISION I DON'T APPRECIATE IT; HE'S NOT A COUNCILOR. WE PAY HIM WAY MORE THAN EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR TO NOT BE PART OF COUNCIL, TO BE THE CAO AND RUN THE CORPORATION.
EXCUSE ME. IF A COUNCILOR IS GOING TO INSULT STAFF.
I'M SORRY. THAT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF ORDER.
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HEARD, UNDERSTOOD, THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEARCE.THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. SO THE FACT THAT THE CORPORATION WASN'T IN THERE AND WE DID IT WRONG IN THE PAST, I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO DO IT WRONG.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CHANGE THAT WORDING AND MAKE THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CORPORATION.
IF THE I APPRECIATE WHAT THE CLERK, MS. BRAY SAID THAT. I JUST I STILL HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE WORDING, AND I APPRECIATE OUR INSURANCE COMPANY SAYING, YES, IT SHOULD BE FIVE MILLION AS OPPOSED TO TWO MILLION.
BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE LIABILITY, AND I GET IT.
IF IT'S DONE THROUGH HOCKEY CANADA THEN IT PROBABLY IS A LIABILITY POLICY, THE PROBLEM IS THIS IS OUR AGREEMENT AND YOU ARE ALL AWARE THAT WE END UP IN CLOSED SESSION DEALING WITH ISSUES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE STUFF DONE RIGHT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IT RIGHT TO PROTECT THE MUNICIPALITY.
SO LET'S JUST TRY AND MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER, THIS WAS BROUGHT BACK OR SENT BACK TO STAFF TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL TO COME BACK WITH A 10000 DOLLAR ALL IN.
THAT MEANS THIS AGREEMENT IS NOT WHAT COUNCIL DIRECTED, BECAUSE THIS IS THOUSAND PLUS THE RINK BOARDS. SO IT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE HERE AND.
I'M NOT EVEN OVERLY CONCERNED, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW I WOULD LIKE TO REPORT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE RINK BOARDS, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN OUR BUS SHELTERS.
WE RFP OUT OUR BUS SHELTERS, WE TENDER THEM.
WE RECEIVE REVENUE FROM A THIRD PARTY THAT GOES AND SELLS THAT MARKETING IF WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO IT.
PRIOR TO 2014, THOSE RINK BOARDS WERE UTILIZED.
THEY WERE SOLD AND THEY WERE SOLD BY STAFF.
SO WE'RE NOW JUST GIVING THIS MONEY AWAY ON TOP OF THE 10000 DOLLARS, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE RESOLUTION THAT HAD CAME FORWARD THAT TOLD US TO BRING THIS BACK TO COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S WHY I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AND WHEN YOU GET TO THE EXCLUSIVES, I APPRECIATE WHAT MR. ANTUNES HAS PUT IN HERE, THAT THERE ARE OTHER USERS IN OTHER PORTIONS OF THIS FACILITY.
SO YOU CANNOT SUPERSEDE A CLAUSE WITH A DIFFERENT CLAUSE, THE CLAUSES HAVE TO BE CONCISE, AND WHEN ITEM 19 SAYS THEY HAVE EXCLUSIVE USE TO THE FOLLOWING AREAS.
EITHER THEY HAVE EXCLUSIVE USE, YOU CAN'T SAY THAT YOU HAVE EXCLUSIVE USE EXCEPT FOR THIS AND EXCEPT FOR THAT, AND MAYBE NOT FOR THIS, MAYBE NOT FOR THAT, BUT THIS IS A CONTRACT.
AND SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THAT I'M SAYING THAT THIS HAS TO BE POTENTIALLY REDONE.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE FOOD SERVICES, I APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE STAFF IN THE CANTEEN ANYWAY.
SO IF. THE WAY THAT IT WAS WORDED, I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT THAT CLAUSE WAS TRYING TO SAY.
SO IF THE TEAM IS GOING TO BRING FORWARD SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT TO SELL IN OUR CANTEEN AND HAVE I SELL THEM, WE'RE PAYING OUR STAFF TO DO IT ANYWAY, THEY'RE ALREADY IN THERE.
I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
IT'S JUST AN ACCOUNTING ISSUE.
THEY WILL HAVE ANY HST NUMBER SO WE CAN IN AND OUT THE HST.
SO IT JUST BECOMES A CLERICAL ISSUE.
I'M SORRY. MRS. SONNENBURG THAT WE'RE GOING TO TASK YOU WITH.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE [INAUDIBLE] MONEY, POTENTIALLY, BUT IT MAY NOT IT MAY BE HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS A WEEK.
BUT STILL, IN THE BIG SCHEME OF THINGS, THAT BECOMES QUITE TRIVIAL FOR OUR TREASURER TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH. BUT I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF THEM TRYING TO FUNDRAISE AND MAKE MONEY THROUGH THAT ASPECT. SO I STILL I WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE REWRITTEN AND BROUGHT BACK.
I DON'T EVEN CARE IF IT DOES COME BACK DIRECTLY TO COUNCIL, THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
AND I WOULD WANT IT TO STILL BE BEGINNING AUGUST, PRIOR TO THE TIME THAT HAS BEEN SPENT SO THAT WE CAN BILL THEM OUT FOR THE HOURS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY USED AT THESE RATES SO THAT THEY'RE NOT PAYING THE USER FEE BYLAW RATE FROM THE BEGINNING.
SO I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THIS CONTRACT BEING DATED TO NOT DATE BACK, BUT I WOULD LIKE IT CORRECTED AND SOLIDIFIED AND BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR RATIFICATION.
AND I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT THIS GET DEFERRED TO THE NEXT MEETING OF COUNCIL WITH CORRECTIONS. IS THERE A SECONDER FOR THE DEFERRAL? OK, SEEING NONE, I HAVE COUNCILOR CYR COUNCILOR MANN, AND THEN I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION. COUNCILOR CYR.
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.
I SHARE COUNCILOR MANN AND COUNCILOR PATRIE'S CONCERNS THAT THERE'S NO IDENTIFIABLE PERSON ON THIS CONTRACT.
SO I THINK AT THE VERY LEAST, THE HOCKEY TEAM SHOULD BE THERE ON THIS AGREEMENT.
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BUT OVERALL, THIS AGREEMENT I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF, BECAUSE FINALLY WE'RE GETTING SOMETHING FOR THE LONG AND THE OUTSTANDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN, THE CITY'S BEEN WAITING FOR MONEYS FOR YEARS.SO I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THAT.
AND I THINK THIS AGREEMENT DOES GIVE THE TEAM A CHANCE TO ACTUALLY SUCCEED.
MY MAIN CONCERN, AND THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, PROBABLY CLOSE TO TWO YEARS NOW, IS BOARD MEMBERS, INCLUDING SOME MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I DON'T MEAN THIS AS A PERSONAL ATTACK AGAINST ANYBODY.
THEY'RE USING COUNCIL TIME TO LAUNCH TO DO PERSONAL ATTACKS AND COMMENTING AGAINST FORMER COACHES AND FORMER STAFF.
AND THEY MAY NOT MEAN TO DO IT, BUT IT'S STILL BEING DONE PUBLICLY.
AND THAT HAS NO BUSINESS OR THERE'S NO NEED FOR THAT COUNCIL CHAMBERS, I MEAN, IN ALL PROFESSIONALISM. WE SHOULD STICK TO THE BUSINESS, AND THERE SHOULD BE NO FINGER POINTING HERE, WHETHER IT'S FORMER COACHES THAT HAVE MADE BAD DECISIONS.
WE ALL KNOW THAT FORMER BROADS AND CURRENT BOARDS HAVE MADE BAD DECISIONS, TOO.
SO I THINK FOR THE FUTURE, THE DISCUSSIONS SHOULD STICK TO WHAT'S AT HAND AND THERE SHOULDN'T BE FINGER POINTING.
AND I PERSONALLY TAKE OFFENSE AT THAT, ESPECIALLY SINCE SOME OF THOSE PERSONS ARE LONGSTANDING CITIZENS OF THE CITY AND SOME OF THEM ARE PASSIVE CITIZENS.
BUT I THINK THE PAST SHOULD BE LEFT IN THE PAST.
THERE SHOULD BE NO PERSONAL ATTACKS OR ACCUSATIONS.
I THINK IT SHOULD STICK TO THE MATTERS AT HAND.
AND THAT'S MY BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THIS TONIGHT.
BUT OVERALL, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS.
THANKS YOUR WORSHIP. YOU KNOW, CLEARLY, I THINK THERE'S BEEN I THINK SOME OF THE COMMENTARY TONIGHT, I APOLOGIZE IF I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OTHER MEMBERS, BUT I THINK SOME OF THE CONCERN COMING FORWARD TONIGHT IS BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN SO PROBLEMATIC.
SO I THINK AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE ARE TRYING TO DO IT CAUTIOUSLY.
I'VE HAD THE BENEFIT OF TALKING TO THE TEAM PRINCIPAL ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS, WHICH I HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORT IN, I BELIEVE, BECAUSE OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, THE NAMING PIECE MR. GAGNON'S SPOKEN AND SAID THAT'S SUFFICIENT.
WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE CLERK, THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PREVIOUS TWO TEAM INCARNATION. SO THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, IT'S FINE TO MOVE AHEAD.
WE KNOW NOW CLEARLY THAT THIS IS THE MANAGEMENT GROUP THAT WE'RE NOW DEALING WITH.
THE BOARD HAS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE MANAGEMENT GROUP, AND WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE HOCKEY BACK IN THE CENTENNIAL ARENA, WHICH I THINK IS BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE AROUND THE TABLE IS OPPOSED TO THAT.
WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THIS RIGHT.
WE DON'T WANT TO COME BACK IN A YEAR OR SIX MONTHS OR TWO AND A HALF YEARS FROM NOW TO SAY "OOPS WE MISSED THAT AND THE AGREEMENT'S NOT PERFECT." YOU KNOW, I'M COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD. I DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS, BUT I WILL SUPPORT IT TONIGHT BECAUSE I THINK STAFF HAS HEARD WHAT COUNCIL HAS SAID.
AND AS THESE AGREEMENTS CONTINUE TO COME, I THINK WE WILL QUESTION WHENEVER THERE'S AN ISSUE OR CONCERN FOR THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE MUNICIPALITY, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE SITTING HERE. WE WANT TO HAVE HOCKEY, BUT WE WANT TO DO IT IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE FOR THE TAXPAYERS OF THE MUNICIPALITY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR MANN.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE TEAM NAME IS INCORPORATED, WHICH MAKES THAT A LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACT. MS. BRAY HAS IDENTIFIED THE FACT THAT OUR INSURANCE HAS VETTED THE CONTRACT ITSELF, WHICH MAKES ME FEEL COMFORTABLE. THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION RIGHT NOW.
ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILOR--[INAUDIBLE] MY QUESTION BASED ON YOUR COMMENT.
SO HAS THE TEAM BEEN SOLD AND IF THE RED WINGS IS A NEW CORPORATION.
THAT'S CARRIED. WELCOME, RED WINGS.
LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THEM PLAY.
ALL RIGHT. SIX POINT FOUR VERBAL UPDATE FROM THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER.
COUNCILOR FINAMORE POTENTIAL DISPOSITION OF PROPERTY ON FOX DRIVE UPDATE AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH THE DISPOSITION OF PROPERTY OWNED BY THE MUNICIPALITY MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION AS PER SECTION 239 [INAUDIBLE] MUNICIPAL ACT.
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CAN I HAVE A MOVER TO PUT THIS IN CLOSED? MOVED BY COUNCILOR MANN SECOND BY COUNCILOR FINAMORE.QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? COUNCILOR PATRIE.
I DON'T HAVE A CLOSED SESSION PACKAGE, SO I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION, DISCUSS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED A REPORT ON.
I BELIEVE IT STATES VERBAL UPDATE ON PREVIOUS DISPOSITION.
MR. GAGNON, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT? YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. I'VE HEARD THIS CONCERN BEFORE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT SAYS VERBAL UPDATE, THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL IS GOING TO GET IS A VERBAL UPDATE AND WE'LL LOOK AT SOME MAPS.
THERE'S NOTHING UNTOWARD ABOUT THAT.
THE NOTICE WAS PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING FOX DRIVE IN CLOSED SESSION. WE ALL KNOW THAT THE CLOSED SESSIONS ARE RECORDED.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CONCERN IS.
COUNCILOR PATRIE WANTS TO HAVE AN AGENDA, SOMETHING TO CHEW ON FROM THURSDAY TO MONDAY.
I GET THAT. WELL, WE TOLD YOU ON THURSDAY THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A VERBAL UPDATE.
AND WE HEAR NOW THIS EVENING THAT IT'S A PROBLEM FOR COUNCILOR PATRIE.
[INAUDIBLE] BEFORE THAT, THERE IS NOTHING PROCEDURALLY UNTOWARD WITH A CLOSED SESSION VERBAL UPDATE. AND THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL'S GOING TO GET.
IS THIS A CONTINUATION OF THE LAST MEETING, MR. GAGNON ANSWERING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FOX DRIVE PROJECT.
IT'S ABOUT THE LAND POSITION, ABOUT THE ENTIRE INDUSTRIAL PARK, WHICH WILL TOUCH ON ALL KINDS OF CLOSED SESSION ITEMS, [INAUDIBLE] AND SERVICING AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A CONCERN.
OKAY, SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL VOTE.
PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS.
[7. PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS ]
NUMBER SEVEN. SEVEN POINT ONE REFERRAL FROM THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE, A SURFACE TREATMENT OF LOCAL ROADS REPORT, I BELIEVE COUNCILOR CYR THIS IS YOUR COMMITTEE, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.AT THE AUGUST 16TH, 2021 PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED.
STAFF REPORT RDS2021-02 DATED AUGUST 10TH, 2021 OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED AND THAT CONTRACT NO.
RDS2021-02 FOR PULVERIZATION AND DOUBLE SURFACE TREATMENT OF BOYCHUK, SOUTH BAY, PINE POND, AND FIRE TOWER ROADS BE AWARDED TO BEAMISH CONSTRUCTION INC AT A COST OF FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND SIX DOLLARS AND EIGHTY CENTS PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES AND THAT THE ADDITIONAL COST OF ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY ONE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX DOLLARS BE BUDGETED TOWARDS THE FEDERAL GAS TAX RESERVE AND THAT THIS REPORT BE FORWARDED TO THE COUNCIL.
DO I HEAR A SECONDER? SECONDED BY COUNCILOR PATRIE, THANK YOU.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COUNCILOR CYR, DO YOU WANT TO HAND IT OFF TO MR. HALLOCH? I'D LIKE TO HAND THAT OFF TO MR. HALLOCH, WHO HAS ALL THE INFORMATION.
BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU. MR. HALLOCH. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.
AS EXPLAINED AT THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING, THERE ARE SEVERAL SERVICE TREATMENT ROADS THAT ARE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT DON'T CONSIST OF ANY UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE OTHER THAN THE CULVERTS TO HELP DIRECT STORMWATER RUNOFF.
THE MAJORITY OF THESE ROADS LAST RECEIVED SINGLE LAYER TREATMENTS IN THE MID 1990S.
NORMALLY AFTER A SURFACE TREATMENT ROAD IS APPLIED, MUNICIPALITIES WOULD PLAN ON HAVING A SINGLE SURFACE ADDED EVERY 10 YEARS, DEPENDING ON HOW THE ACTUAL SHAPE OF THE ROAD IS.
WITH A FULL DOUBLE SURFACE COMPLETED AFTER 20 YEARS.
THE ROADS IDENTIFIED IN THIS REPORT HAVE ALSO PASSED THE 20 YEAR MARK AND ARE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED IN WIDTH AND SEVERAL CRACKS AND BUMPS IDENTIFIED THROUGHOUT.
ENGINEERING INSPECTION WAS COMPLETED BY [INAUDIBLE] ENGINEERING AND IDENTIFIED ALL THE COST INVOLVED, SUCH AS BRUSHING, DITCHING, CULVERT REPLACEMENT, PAUPERIZATION OF THE EXISTING [INAUDIBLE] OF A GRAVEL AND FINALLY THE APPLICATION OF A DOUBLE SURFACE TREATMENT TO ACTUALLY COMPLETE THE PROCESS.
A TENDER WAS POSTED ON JULY 15TH WITH A CLOSING DATE OF AUGUST 3RD, 2021.
IN TOTAL, THERE WAS TWO FIRMS SUBMITTED TENDER RESPONSES BY THE SIGNIFICANT CLOSING TIME.
WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS ONE, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TENDERS INCLUDE ALL COSTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH INITIAL PULVERIZING OF WHAT EXISTING RIGHT NOW ON THE ACTUAL ROADS, TRANSPORTATION AND GRADING OF THE CRUSHED ASPHALT AND THE ADDITION OF A NEW DOUBLE SURFACED TREATMENT LAYER.
SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE COSTS THAT HAVE COME BACK INTO THE ACTUAL REPORT, WE WERE LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
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SO IN THE PROCESS, AS I EXPLAINED, THERE'S AN M GRAVEL COMPONENT TO THIS, WHERE AFTER YOU PULVERIZE THE ROADS THAT WE'VE MENTIONED IN THE REPORT, NORMALLY YOU'D USE AN A GRAVEL THAT WOULD BE SUPPLIED BY THE ACTUAL WATER CONTRACTOR AND THAT WOULD LEVEL OFF THE ROAD TO EITHER THE CITIES OR AN ENGINEER SAYING THAT'S A PERFECT AT THAT POINT, SO IT'S UP TO A CERTAIN PRICE AT THAT POINT.WELL, WE'VE ALSO INVESTIGATED THAT.
THE MATERIAL THAT WE'VE CRUSHED UP AT THE DOG PARK THIS YEAR, WHICH IS CALLED A RAP, WHICH IS A RECYCLED ASPHALT PRODUCT, COULD BE SUBSTITUTED FOR THE A GRAVEL INSIDE OF THIS PROCESS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PRICES.
MILLER PAVING GAVE A PRICE OF EIGHT HUNDRED AND SIXTY TWO THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED FORTY ONE. THAT'S WITH THE A GRAVEL SUPPLIED BY THE CONTRACTOR.
AND THEN WHEN IT'S JUST TRANSPORTED BY THEM FROM THE DOG PARK TO THESE AREAS, IT'S SEVEN HUNDRED THIRTY FOUR THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED FOUR.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO BIDS WE GOT FROM THEM.
THE BEAMISH CONSTRUCTION WAS THE OTHER ONE.
WE GOT A BID OF SIX HUNDRED THREE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED SEVENTY FOUR WITH THE A GRAVEL SUPPLIED BY THE CONTRACTOR.
EXCUSE ME. AND WITH THEM TRANSPORTING THE RAP MATERIAL, RECYCLE ASPHALT PRODUCT FROM THE DOG PARK TO THE SEVERAL AREAS.
IT WAS FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED SIX DOLLARS AND EIGHTY CENTS WITH CRUSHED ASPHALT BY THE CITY.
SO BASICALLY, THE FORMS OF THE TENDERS BONDING CERTIFICATES, PROPOSED EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING CAME IN. THERE WAS NO BID IRREGULARITIES WERE NOTED DURING THIS REVIEW PROCESS. PUBLIC WORKS STAFF WERE PLACED AHEAD OF TIME, [INAUDIBLE] COST SAVINGS.
THE CITY STAFF HAD REPLACED CULVERTS [INAUDIBLE] AND BRUSHED EACH OF THE ROADS TO SAVE QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TOWARDS THESE ACTUAL PRODUCTS.
SO BASICALLY, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, THE ORIGINAL ONE, WHICH MIGHT COME BACK AS THE QUESTION WE WERE ORIGINALLY BUDGETING AND THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE 2020 CAPITAL PROJECT AMOUNT TO THREE HUNDRED AND FIVE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TO RESURFACE ALL FOUR ROADS, WHICH WAS BUDGETED BELIEVING A SINGLE SURFACE LAYER COULD BE APPLIED AFTER WE HAD THE ENGINEERING [INAUDIBLE] DONE AND AND MORE INFORMATION COMING BACK FROM EVEN CONTRACTORS LOOKING AT IT.
WE KNEW THAT THE ROADS WERE PAST THAT POINT WHERE YOU COULDN'T JUST ADD A SINGLE LAYER ANYMORE. AND THAT'S WHERE THE BIG COST DIFFERENCE IS COMPARED TO WHAT WE BUDGETED, BECAUSE NOW WE KNOW IT'S A DOUBLE SURFACE LAYER THAT'S REQUIRED AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE COST. BUT WHAT I'LL ALSO EXPLAIN INTO THIS IS IF WE DID DECIDE AND WE KNEW AHEAD OF TIME, THAT WAS GOING TO BE A DOUBLE SURFACED TREATMENT.
SO AFTER RECEIVING THE ENGINEERING REPORT WHICH CONFIRMED THAT ALL FOUR ROADS WERE PAST IT AS SEEN IN THE TENDER BIDS ABOVE, NORMALLY THE PROCESS WOULD COST IN THE RANGE OF SIX HUNDRED TO SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND TO COMPLETE ALL FOUR ROADS.
WITH FURTHER INVESTIGATING, AS WE KNOW WITH THAT MATERIAL IN RETURN, BY SUBSTITUTING THE MATERIAL WITH THE RAP INSTEAD OF THE M GRAVEL, WE ARE SAVING ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY SIX THOUSAND FOUR AND SIXTY EIGHT TO HAVE THAT BROUGHT IN INSTEAD.
ALTHOUGH REGARDLESS OF THAT, WE ARE STILL ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY ONE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX DOLLARS OVER WHAT WE BUDGETED, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO GET THAT FROM THE FEDERAL GAS TAX. SO BASICALLY, IN SUMMARY, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE BIDS SUBMITTED BY BEAMISH CONSTRUCTION LIMITED IN THE AMOUNT OF FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED SIX DOLLARS AND EIGHTY CENTS PLUS POLITICAL TAXES FOR THE CONTRACT OF RDS2021-02.
REGARDING THE SURFACE TREATMENT OF BOYCHUK, SOUTH BAY, PINE POND, AND FIRE TOWER ROADS WOULD BE APPROVED FOR THE REASONS STATED ABOVE.
ANOTHER THING I'LL STATE, TOO, IS THIS IS A TIMING THING FOR WEATHER, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THE PROJECT, IF APPROVED, WOULD START AFTER SEPTEMBER LONG WEEKEND, AND WE CAN GET ALL THE ROADS COMPLETED IN TIME.
AND IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, IT WOULD GO INTO NEXT YEAR AT THE SAME COST.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE END.
IF THERE IS ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH. JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, THIS SEEMS TO BE THE ONE ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING THAT HAS GOTTEN ME A LOT OF MESSAGES FROM RESIDENTS.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT SEEING WHAT THIS HARD PACK LOOKS LIKE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. I'LL START OUT WITH COUNCILOR PATRIE AND COUNCILOR MANN UP NEXT.
THANK YOU, YOU WORSHIP. THROUGH YOU TO MR. HALLOCH.
MR. HALLOCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT'S IN THE REPORT, BUT IT'S BURIED IN THE REPORT.
YOU ARE ACTUALLY ONE HUNDRED PERCENT ON BUDGET TO DO TWO LIFTS, YOU YOU TOLD US IN YOUR REPORT THAT IT WOULD COST US THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DO THIS PER LIFT.
THE LOWEST BID FOR LIFT IS SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE TWO LIFTS.
AND THEN YOU SAVED US ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS BY BRINGING IN OUR
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CRUSHED ASPHALT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN STOCK.SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS CONCISELY, YOU'RE DOING BOTH LIFTS IN ONE SHOT AT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS THAN IT WOULD HAVE COST US TO DO THE TWO LIFTS. SO I'M 100 PERCENT IN FAVOR OF THIS USING OUR MATERIAL, AND I THANK YOU FOR BEING INNOVATIVE TO TRY AND DO THIS INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM PUT A GRAVEL AND SPENDING THE ENTIRE SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DAMAGE WE WOULD END UP WITH BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT TEN YEARS TO REDO THE SECOND 10 MIL THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IN A TEN YEAR SPAN.
SO TO HAVE A 20 MIL SUB-SURFACE, IS VERY GOOD NEWS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REPORT, YOU'RE SAVING ROUGHLY ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS, AS OPPOSED TO BEING OVER BUDGET BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING TWICE THE WORK FOR THAT EXTRA HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO I'M FULLY IN FAVOR IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN GET IT DONE AND HOPEFULLY IT STAYS HOT FOR THE NEXT MONTH SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE GOOD HEAT WHEN THEY'RE COMPACTING.
AND ONE THING I'D LIKE TO ADD ON TO COUNCILOR PATRIE'S COMMENTS IS THAT I'M LOOKING TO DO A REPORT ONCE WE'RE COMPLETED, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A CONCERN OF THE FEDERAL GAS TAX RESERVE AND SOME STORIES THAT THEY'RE DOING ON US CRUSHING AND WHAT WE'RE USING.
BUT I'M LOOKING TO ADD UP ALL THE SAVINGS THAT WE'VE SAVED.
AND THIS IS A COMBINED EFFORT AMONGST A LOT OF STAFF.
IT'S AMONGST A LOT OF US, BUT, YEAH, I'M EXCITED EVERY TIME THERE'S ANOTHER SUBSTITUTE THAT WE COULD USE THIS CRUSHED ASPHALT AND GET RID OF IT AT THE SAME TIME UNDER THE ACTUAL AREA. IT'S A PLUS PLUS.
COUNCILOR MANN. THANK YOUR WORSHIP.
THROUGH YOU, TO COUNCILOR MANN. MR. HALLOCH THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.
I DID ASK THIS QUESTION AT COMMITTEE, BUT I'LL ASK AGAIN FOR THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING THE SECTION OF THE FIRE TOWER THAT'S BEING DONE.
IT'S FROM THE GATE UP TO THE TOWER, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING ON MILLIKEN MINE AT THIS POINT, BUT YOU ARE CORRECT, IT'LL BE FROM MILLIKEN MINE UP TO THE UP TO THE PARKING AREA.
OK, HOWEVER, FOLLOW UP YOUR WORSHIP, IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF WE COULD CONSIDER SOME OF THE FIRE TOWER MILLIKEN MINE ROAD, AT LEAST FROM THE TURN-OFF WHERE IT [INAUDIBLE] GOING UP THE PREVIOUS STANLY UP TO THE FIRE TOWER.
THAT IS GETTING VERY PROBLEMATIC AND OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT.
AND HERE WE'RE ABOUT TO YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO REFINE THE ROAD TO THE TOWER, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE SO MAYBE NEXT YEAR OR SOMETHING.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK IT'S PRETTY [INAUDIBLE] THAT WE'RE DOING THIS.
SO VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT TONIGHT.
THANK YOU. AND ADDING ONTO THAT, JUST SO YOU REALIZE, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THERE'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE OF SURFACE TREATED ROADS LIKE TWO OR THREE STILL REMAINING, ONE OF THE BIG ONES IS GOING TO BE SCOTT.
YOU ARE CORRECT. AND THERE'S SOME CULVERT THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED ALONG THESE ROADS AS WELL. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, WITH THE ACTUAL WE STILL GOT 12000 CUBIC METERS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE CRUSHING THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
THESE ARE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING TOGETHER FOR PROJECTS IN THE NEXT YEARS.
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH TO MR. HALLOCH. THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.
I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER BACK TO THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT I BELIEVE THERE WAS ONLY TWO ROADS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE BUDGET.
SO YOU'RE NOT ONLY SAVING US MONEY BY DOING IT WITH THE ASPHALT.
I THINK YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOING DOUBLE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, BECAUSE PINE POND AND THE OTHER ROAD WERE ADDED IN AFTER OUR BUDGET PROCESS.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
AND LET'S ALL KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED THAT THIS REALLY WORKS, BECAUSE I'M SURE THE PEOPLE AT THE DOG PARK ARE VERY HAPPY TO SEE THE ASPHALT LEAVE.
AND I'LL COMMENT AGAIN, TOO, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING THROUGH DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES ALL THE WAY ACROSS, SO EVERYWHERE FROM THE MINISTRY OF THE ENVIRONMENT, IS EXCITED TO, LIKE I SAID, THE FEDERAL GAS TAX RESERVE.
BUT WITH ALL THE BOXES THAT ARE CHECKED AND WE STAY IN TOUCH WITH THE WITH THE PEOPLE FROM THE DOG PARK AS WELL.
EVERYBODY'S BEEN HAPPY AND IT'S ACTUALLY CLEARING JUST SO WE KNOW IN THE FUTURE, TOO, IT'S CLEARING A NICE PIECE OF LAND THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN.
AND IT IS ACTUALLY A REALLY NICE PIECE OF LAND.
THE MORE WE SEE, IT'S CLEARED BACK.
SO THEY'RE ALL PLUSES AND, YEAH, YEAH.
VERY GOOD ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP ALSO ON YOUR PART.
MR. HALLOCH. VERY MUCH APPRECIATED, NOT JUST SAVING US MONEY, DOING TWICE THE WORK WITH LESS MONEY AND CLEANING UP THE LAND, SO CALL FOR THE VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILOR MANN.
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THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.7.2 A REFERRAL FROM THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE.
[INAUDIBLE] SERVICE AGREEMENT RECOGNIZING AMS AS A PRO REPORT.
UH COUNCILOR CYR'S GONE AT THE MOMENT AT THE AUGUST 16, 2021 PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS DATED JULY 27, 2021, BE RECEIVED, AND THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE SIGNING OF A NEW AGREEMENT RECOGNIZING AUTOMOTIVE MATERIAL STEWARDSHIP AS A PRODUCER RESPONSIBLE ORGANIZATION, AND THAT THE REPORT BE RECEIVED BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
CAN I HAVE A MOVER PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILOR MANN. SECOND BY COUNCILOR PEARCE.
THANK YOU. MR. HALLOCH, ONCE AGAIN. ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS BASICALLY JUST A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM, JUST SO EVERYBODY IS AWARE AT HOME.
EVERY YEAR WE, THE CITY DOES RUN A HAZARDOUS WASTE DAY EVENT AT THE PUBLIC WORKS YARD AT 11 A.M. TO 7 P.M., RESIDENTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO ATTEND THE EVENT WHERE THEY CAN DISPOSE OF THEIR HAZARDOUS WASTE INSTEAD OF DISPOSING WITHIN THE LOCAL LANDFILL.
THE CITY HIRES A SPECIALIZED CONTRACTOR TO RUN THE EVENT WHERE THEY COLLECT, PACKAGE AND DOCUMENT, AS WELL AS TRANSPORT THE HAZARDOUS WASTE TO [INAUDIBLE] RUN BY [INAUDIBLE] ONTARIO, PRODUCT CARE ASSOCIATES, AND RIGHT HERE, AUTOMOTIVE MATERIALS SERVICES, WHO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH FOR YEARS NOW.
THIS IS, LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST UPDATING THE THING, FINDING ANOTHER AGREEMENT.
SO ONCE THE HAZARDOUS WASTE IS RECEIVED, A CLAIM IS SUBMITTED FOR PAYMENT.
SO EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW IT WORKS, WE DO COLLECT A LOT OF THESE HAZARDOUS WASTE.
SO IT'S NO MEANS ARE YOU MAKING A PROFIT OFF OF ANYTHING LIKE THIS, BUT IT DOES SUBSIDIZE YOUR YOU DO GET MONEY BACK FROM THESE ONES COLLECTING THE PRODUCT, SO IF THE VENT COST 35000 [INAUDIBLE] AND GETTING BACK FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM AMS [INAUDIBLE] ONTARIO, UNLESS RATE IN THAT RANGE ANYWAYS.
SO GOT WORD THE EVENT COST YOU TWENTY THOUSAND ANYWAYS TO KEEP EVERYTHING UNDER THE LOCAL LANDFILL. SO BASICALLY WE'RE JUST HOPING COUNCILOR WE JUST WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH COUNCIL APPROVING IT AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS NEW AGREEMENT.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? COUNCILOR TURNER. YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. HALLOCH. LAST TIME WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SPECIAL WASTE COLLECTION [INAUDIBLE].
I ASKED IF WE MIGHT CONSIDER GETTING TWO OF THOSE A YEAR.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO THIS FOR US.
ARE WE GETTING ANY CLOSER? THE REASON I ASK IS SO THAT WE CAN AVOID THE BUSH STUMPERS OR AT LEAST REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE COLLECTING PAINT CANS FOR A YEAR.
SOMETIMES GET TEMPTED TO HAUL THEM OUT OF THEIR BASEMENT, KEEP THEM SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY DON'T THINK ANYBODY WILL FIND THEM.
FORTUNATELY, THAT'S NOT THE MAJORITY, BUT IT HAPPENS.
I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD MOVE IN THE DIRECTION WHERE WE COULD AGGRESSIVELY ATTEMPT TO REDUCE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
SO A QUICK ANSWER TO ANSWER YOU ON THAT IS I AGREE, WE'RE LOOKING INTO A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE OF THEM IS WE'RE LOOKING [INAUDIBLE] AND STUFF LIKE THAT, TO SEE THAT THERE'S AN ABILITY AND I WANT TO CHECK OUT LIABILITY AND EVERYTHING.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM, FROM HAVING [INAUDIBLE] AT THE ACTUAL LANDFILL. IF IT WAS COLLECTED AND BROUGHT THERE, AND WE COULD SIT ON IT FOR A WHILE AND WE MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO COLLECT IT LONG ENOUGH WHERE IT'S SENT AWAY ONCE A YEAR.
AND WE ALWAYS HAVE AN ACTUAL SPOT TO DO IT.
I DO AGREE, A YEAR'S A LONG TIME TO HANG ON TO, THERE IS PEOPLE THAT COLLECT THESE, BUT IT'S ALWAYS MORE OF AN INCONVENIENCE.
WE WANT TO MAKE IT AS CONVENIENT AS POSSIBLE FOR EVERYBODY.
SO IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, I'D BE LOOKING TO RUN AN ACTUAL SPRING AND A FALL EVENT.
OF COURSE, WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING APPROVAL FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWENTY OR TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS TO RUN THAT EVENT.
SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN SET SOMETHING UP ALL THE TIME AT THE ACTUAL LANDFILL.
I THINK THE ENVIRONMENT WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
[INAUDIBLE] YOU THERE? JUST FOR A REFERENCE, MR. HALLOCH, A LOT OF EASTERN ONTARIO ALREADY HAS SOMETHING LIKE THAT SET UP AT THEIR LANDFILLS WHERE THEY TAKE BATTERIES, PAINT, DIFFERENT HAZARDOUS LIQUIDS, AND THEY ARE STORED IN SEA CONTAINERS AT THE TURNAROUND SITES.
SO IF THEY'RE DOING IT IN EASTERN ONTARIO, I'M SURE WE CAN DO SIMILAR HERE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT ALSO.
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU, TO MR. HALLOCH. I DO HOPE THAT WE DO LOOK AT PUTTING SOMETHING OUT THE DUMP, BECAUSE I DO GET CALLS AND PEOPLE ASK ME WHAT DO THEY DO WITH THEIR RACE, LIKE IF THEY'RE MOVING IN NOVEMBER, OR YOU KNOW, THEIR PARENTS PASSED AWAY, THEY'RE COMING UP, AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THEIR HOUSE AND THEY FIND ALL THIS STUFF, THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO WITH IT
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AND I ALWAYS REFER THEM TO CALL PUBLIC WORKS AND ASK THEM FOR SOME ADVICE.BUT THERE IS TIMES WHEN THE ONE TIME OF YEAR IS JUST NOT CONVENIENT TO PEOPLE FOR VARIOUS REASONS. SO I DO HOPE THAT WE DO LOOK FOR SOMETHING AT THE DUMP.
I 100 PERCENT AGREE. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO, BECAUSE I KNOW SITTING ON IT YOU MADE A PERFECT POINT. IT'S WHEN A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE MOVING OUT, WE TAKE A LOT OF PHONE CALLS.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE SOMEWHERE WHERE WE WOULD TAKE IT.
BUT I KNOW THERE'S SO MUCH LIABILITY IF IT'S NOT PROPERLY PACKAGED THE WAY AND LIABILITIES DOWN THAT WAY.
SO I'M DEFINITELY LOOKING INTO IT.
AND IF THE SEA CAN THING WORKS OUT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
WE'LL PLACE IT AT THE LANDFILL AND PROPERLY EXPOSE AND KEEP IT OVER THE LANDFILL.
OK. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS ONE, STARTING WITH COUNCILOR FINAMORE.
THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU AGAIN.
SEVEN POINT THREE A REFERRAL FROM THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE 400-AMP BACKUP DIESEL GENERATOR AT THE AUGUST 16 2021 PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING.
THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED.
THAT'S A REPORT DATED AUGUST 11, 2021 BY THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO PROCEED WITH THE PURCHASE OF A FOUR HUNDRED AMP BACKUP DIESEL GENERATOR AND TRANSFER SWITCH FOR THE CITY HALL FACILITY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
MOVER, PLEASE. MOVED BY COUNCILOR MANN, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR PEARCE.
MR. HALLOCH ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE.
THANK YOU. THE PUBLIC IS PROBABLY AWARE OF THIS ONE.
THIS ONE'S BEEN BACK AND FORTH A FEW TIMES NOW TO COUNCIL.
ORIGINAL REQUEST FROM THE IT DEPARTMENT AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT FEASIBILITY TO INSTALL AN EMERGENCY POWER SUPPLY THAT WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO KEEP THE SERVERS OPERATING AND ALLOW THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING TO BE OPERATIONAL IN BOTH AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AND A CONTROL CENTER.
WE'VE GONE OUT AND DONE THAT, WE'VE HAD IT WHERE IT WAS GOING TO BE A 400 AMP SERVICE WITH THE TRANSFER SWITCH APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
WE CAME BACK WITH IT BECAUSE AT ONE POINT WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING BACK ACROSS WHEN WE HAVE THE OPP AMBULANCE AND FIRE AS WELL, LOOKING AT GENERATORS.
NOW, CURRENTLY, THE OPP DOES HAVE A GENERATOR THERE.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OLDER, BUT IT IS WORKING AND DOING WHAT IT IS FROM THERE.
AND STAFF'S DONE SOME INVESTIGATION.
AND WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL FOR THE FOUR HUNDRED AMP.
AND THEN WE WANT TO LOOK FUTURE WISE AND GET INTO SOME OF THE CAPITAL WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER FACILITIES LIKE OPP, THE AMBULANCE, WHERE THEY COULD COME BACK WITH A REFERRAL OR A RECOMMENDATION LETTER COMING BACK TO THE CITY WITH EXACTLY WHAT THEY WOULD WANT TO OPERATE INSIDE THEIR BUILDINGS.
AND THEN WE COULD DO A LITTLE BIT OF MORE RESEARCH INSIDE OF THOSE.
WE ALREADY GOT A GOOD HANDLE BASICALLY ON WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING AT.
THIS IS WHERE WE'RE SUGGESTING YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH EVEN SMALLER GENERATORS, LESS TRENCHING, AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE ONE POINT OF FAILURE.
SO YOU'VE GOT ONE GENERATOR FOR ALL FOUR BUILDINGS AND THAT GENERATOR FAILS, THEN WE'RE OUT OF POWER FOR ALL FOUR FACILITIES.
I KNOW THAT IT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN.
AND PLUS THE FACT THAT WE THINK WE CAN GET SMALLER GENERATORS PUT INTO THOSE OTHER UNITS. MOST OF THEM HAVE HVAC UNITS AND A LOT EASIER TO RUN, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TALKING THE HEAT IN THE WINTER AND AIR CONDITIONING IN THE SUMMER, IF YOU POSSIBLY NEEDED TO ACTUALLY DO IT FOR COMFORT LEVELS.
BUT MORE OR LESS, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT POWER FOR COMPUTERS AND LIGHTING.
SO BASICALLY STAFF'S RECOMMENDING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ORDERING OF THE FOUR HUNDRED AMP GENERATOR, HAVING ALL THAT PROJECT COMPLETED THIS YEAR, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD AND INVESTIGATE A LITTLE FURTHER INTO THE OTHER FACILITIES THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO IN THE ACTUAL REPORT.
PLUS, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO SOME OTHER ONES ABOVE AND BEYOND CITY OR [INAUDIBLE] COLLINS HALL THE ARENA, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE'LL HAVE THEM PREPPED UP AND READY TO GO.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM ON THIS.
BUT THIS IS THE WAY WE'RE LOOKING TO RECOMMEND IS JUST TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. THANK YOU.
I DID DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU ALREADY IN THE PAST.
MY BIG CONCERN BEING PART OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GROUP FOR MANY, MANY YEARS NOW AND DOING MULTIPLE EXERCISE AND BEING INVOLVED IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IN THE PAST WITH MILITARY. NOTHING WORSE THAN HAVING YOUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM HAVE TO CALL FOR HELP.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR PLAN OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS DOES NOT GET LOST IN THE WEEDS. EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT EACH ONE OF THESE EMERGENCY FACILITIES HAVE BACKUP POWER.
AGAIN, IF THERE'S A DISTRICT WIDE EMERGENCY AND WE CAN'T HANDLE OUR OWN, THERE'S NO ONE
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COMING TO SAVE THE DAY FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME.AND WE SEE THAT THROUGH OUR EXERCISE AGAIN.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR STAFF'S HARD WORK.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO NOT LOSE SIGHT OF DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN PROTECTION AND SAVING LIVES.
JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE FOR YOU.
AND I'LL HAND IT OVER COUNCILOR MANN.
MR. HALLOCH. I KNOW THAT WE'VE SPOKEN ON THIS ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS, AND I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION TO DATE.
I HAVE NO CONCERN WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.
AT COMMITTEE, I DID ADVISE THAT.
I DID OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE DISCUSSING MOVING FORWARD WITH THE OTHER FACILITIES CLEARLY AFTER THE EVENT THAT WE HAD NOW SOME TWO WEEKS AGO IN TOWN.
I THINK IT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW IMPORTANT THIS TYPE OF BACKUP POWER IS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES AND THE [INAUDIBLE] CITY HALL.
I DID REACH OUT AS CHAIR OF ADSAB TO THE CAO, THEY ARE AGREEABLE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION MOVING FORWARD REGARDING SOME COST SHARING POTENTIALLY, SO THEY'RE OPEN TO THAT DISCUSSION. FOR THE AMBULANCE SPACE, AMBULANCE SITUATION'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
CLEARLY, EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO OPERATE IS IN THE AMBULANCE, BUT THEY WOULD STILL NEED ROOM TO GET OUT OF THE ELEMENTS AND TAKE A BREAK BETWEEN SHIFTS.
SO OBVIOUSLY, SOME MINIMAL SUPPLEMENTAL POWER WOULD BE A BENEFIT.
AND I THINK IT IS, OF COURSE, IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOMETHING AT THE FIRE HALL AS WELL.
SO HAPPY TO SUPPORT TONIGHT AND MOVE FORWARD INTO THE NEXT PHASE NEXT YEAR.
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU TO MR. HALLOCH. THE DISCUSSIONS I'VE HAD WITH YOU RECENTLY ABOUT THIS IS VIRTUALLY THIS IS A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM. YOU'RE BRINGING THIS BACK TO INFORM US THAT YOU'RE GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL OF COUNCIL.
YOU HAVE THE BUDGET APPROVED BY US.
YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN THE GO AHEAD TO DO IT.
WHILE I DO BELIEVE THAT ADSORBED THE AMBULANCE SPACE AND THE OPP SHOULD HAVE BACKUP POWER. I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS, OBVIOUSLY, WITH MR. HALLOCH. AND WHEN THIS CAME BACK, WITH THE MAJOR INCREASE IN PRICING, I DID SPEAK WITH STAFF UNDER THE DIRECTION OF MR. HALLOCH AS WELL. THE ISSUE I HAVE IS THE TAXPAYERS ARE TAXED ENOUGH MONEY, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE TAXPAYERS SHOULD BE PAYING FOR BACKUP GENERATORS FOR THE PROVINCIAL OPP AND FOR ADSAB WHERE WE PAY A PORTION OF THEIR BILL.
I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILOR MANN THAT, YES, THESE FACILITIES SHOULD HAVE THIS.
AND IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. HALLOCH, THE FIRE HALL DOES HAVE IT.
IT'S JUST NOT PROBABLY QUITE SUFFICIENT FOR WHAT SHOULD BE AT THAT FACILITY.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO REBUILD THAT ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT'S PROBABLY THE PROBABILITY THAT WE NEED TO GET THEM A SLIGHTLY LARGER GENERATOR THAN THE HOME USE GENERATOR THAT IS THERE, AND THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY PUT INTO A BUDGET IN A YEAR OR TWO. BUT I'M IN FAVOR OF GOING FORWARD WITH THIS.
AND SURE, LET'S GET CITY HALL TO HAVE BACKUP POWER ON THIS SCALE INSTEAD OF SPENDING THE QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS TO DO ALL FOUR FACILITIES.
COUNCILOR FINAMORE. THANK YOUR WORSHIP.
I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE'RE BACK AT THIS DISCUSSION AND BACK WHERE WE STARTED TO GET THIS POWER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE INTO CITY HALL.
I KNOW THAT OUR STAFF WORKED LONG HOURS DURING OUR RECENT POWER OUTAGE, AND I'M SURE THEY WOULD RATHER OF WORK TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE THAN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET HELP TO THEMSELVES, TO HELP PEOPLE.
SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A POINT OF.
WE NEED TO BE UP AND RUNNING TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST THIS COULD HAVE BEEN SO MUCH MORE WORSE HAD THE WINDS BEEN 10, 15 KILOMETERS MORE.
YOU KNOW, IF SOME OF THE TREES THAT FLEW AROUND THIS TOWN HAD HAD LANDED INSIDE HOMES AND STUFF, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT WORSE.
I THINK FOR PEOPLE, IT WAS BAD ENOUGH.
I WITH MEDICATION THAT NEEDS REFRIGERATED AND MY HUSBAND ON OXYGEN, WE WERE KIND OF LIKE WONDERING WHERE DO WE GO NEXT? AND POWER CAME ON IN CERTAIN AREAS TO WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT.
HAVING SAID THAT, THE OXYGEN COMPANY WAS ABLE TO GET THROUGH AT MIDNIGHT AND OFFERED TO DRIVE OXYGEN TANKS OUT TO WHEREVER WE WERE, WHICH WAS MUCH APPRECIATED.
AND SO THE PEOPLE OF THE TOWN OF CITY NEED TO KNOW THAT THOSE OUTSIDE RESOURCES WERE ABLE TO GET THROUGH AND TO CONTACT PEOPLE THAT NEEDED TO BE CONTACTED.
BUT I THINK WE CAN'T TIE OUR STAFF'S HANDS AND OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM'S HANDS BY NOT HAVING WHAT THEY NEED.
AND I THINK THIS IS JUST THE BAREST MINIMUM OF WHAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DISASTER WELL MANAGED AND A DISASTER THAT BECOMES A REAL DISASTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OKAY, CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.
I'LL START WITH COUNCILOR FINAMORE.
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THAT'S CARRIED. THINK AGAIN, MR. HALLOCH. NO OUTSIDE BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTS UNFINISHED BUSINESS COMMUNITY RECREATION[9. UNFINISHED BUSINESS ]
HUB UPDATE, STANDING ITEM.I DO BELIEVE THE TWO DIFFERENT PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSIONS, TOWN HALLS HELD BY STAFF WERE VERY WELL ATTENDED, AND I BELIEVE WE'LL HAVE A FULL DETAILED REPORT COMING TO, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS CALLED NOW, THE AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE, IN SEPTEMBER. SO WE HAD OUR TWO RESCHEDULED, POSTPONED DUE TO THE POWER OUTAGE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE WEEK BEFORE.
SO WE HAD THEM LAST WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY.
THE ZOOM VERSION IS AVAILABLE ON OUR WEB SITE TELECAST IF ANYONE WANTS TO LOOK AT IT.
THE IN-PERSON ONE WAS A LITTLE BIT BETTER ATTENDED AND A LITTLE BIT MORE LIVELY.
SO WE WILL BE, MR. ANTUNES AND I, COLLECTING INFORMATION, TRYING TO COLLATED IN SOME COHERENT FASHION AND THEN COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH SORT OF AN UPDATE OF THE OPTIONS FOR COUNCIL TO DIRECT US TO WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS MIGHT BE ON THE SPORTS AND RECREATION WELLNESS HUB.
ALSO TO CARRY ON WITH THAT MR. GAGNON AND GIVE COUNCILOR A LITTLE UPDATE OF THE [INAUDIBLE] DELEGATIONS THAT WE HAD RECENTLY. SURE.
WE MET WITH PARLIAMENTARY ASSISTANTS FOR THE MINISTER OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE PARLIAMENTARY ASSISTANT FOR THE MINISTRY OF SPORT, TOURISM AND CULTURE.
SO WE FOCUSED INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE HUB, REMINDING THEM THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON VARIOUS HUB FORMATS THAT WOULD SEE US STILL REQUIRE SOME PROVINCIAL FUNDING FOR A SPORTS FACILITY IN A NUMBER YET TO BE DETERMINED.
BUT WE KNOW WILL BE MUCH SMALLER THAN THE LAST VERSION THAT WE HAD AT 38 MILLION.
SO WE INFORMED THEM OF OUR NEEDS.
AND I SUPPOSE THAT WAS WORTH OUR EFFORT AND OUR TIME AND OUR FEES FOR THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE, THE VIRTUAL ONE, OF COURSE.
SAME WITH THE MINISTRY OF SPORT, TOURISM AND CULTURE.
WE DID BOTH THE SPORTS HUB AND A LITTLE BIT ON THE ARTS HUB AS WELL TO INDICATE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THE ARTS AND CULTURE CENTER AS WELL.
AND I SHOULD PROBABLY LEAVE MY COMMENTS THERE SO I DON'T GET MYSELF IN TROUBLE ON THE IMPORTANCE OR THE IMPRESSION THAT WE MAY HAVE LEFT ON THE QUEEN'S PARK, IF ANY, IN THOSE DELEGATIONS. BEAUTIFUL.
THANK YOU. NINE POINT TWO, ARTS AND CULTURE HUB UPDATE.
IS THERE ANY NEW INFORMATION THERE, MR. GAGNON. WHAT WE JUST TOUCHED ON AS WE LOBBIED A LITTLE BIT.
WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO COME BACK WITH A DECISION.
SOME FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FUNDING IS ON HOLD, BUT THE GREEN FUND THAT WE ALREADY APPLIED TO IS UNRELATED TO THE WRIT BEING DROPPED FROM THE FEDERAL ELECTION.
SOME OF THE FEDNOR APPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, ARE SOMEWHAT DELAYED DURING THE WRITS.
SO OUR FUNDING APPLICATION FOR THE MOVIE THEATER RENOVATIONS IS.
.. THAT'S THE ONE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS SOMEWHAT PENDING UNTIL THE DUST CLEARS FROM THE ELECTION.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S ONLY APPROXIMATELY 30 DAYS.
SO UNLESS THERE'S A GOVERNMENT CHANGE, IN WHICH CASE WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT WHEN IT COMES.
MR. ANTUNES, ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT ONE.
I WAS JUST NODDING MR. GAGNON FOR ALL INTENSIVE PURPOSES, [INAUDIBLE] ANYTHING.
OK, THANK YOU. NINE POINT THREE RESIDENTIAL WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS, STANDING ITEM. ANYTHING NEW? AND IF NOT, CAN WE BE EXPECTING A RECOMMENDATION OR DISCUSSION ON THIS IN THE NEAR FUTURE? YES, IN THE NEAR FUTURE, FOR SURE.
SEPTEMBER WOULD BE REASONABLE TO HAVE AN UPDATE OF SOME SORT ON NEXT STEPS FOR THE WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT. YES. OK, THANK YOU.
NINE POINT FOUR COVID 19 UPDATE STANDING ITEM IS ANYTHING NEW COMING OUT OF THIS? I KNOW THE NUMBERS IN THE PROVINCE ARE SLOWLY STARTING TO CLIMB AGAIN.
YEAH, WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE APH AND ANYONE AND TRY TO KEEP OUR EYES PEELED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING. WE HAVE SCALED BACK WE'RE STILL HAVING THE LABOR DAY WEEKEND FESTIVITIES, BUT WE HAVE SCALED BACK SOME OF THE SORT OF LIQUOR PERMIT ANGLE ON THE COLLINS HALL. AND WE WOULD JUST AS SOON, WAIT BEFORE WE START HAVING AN INDOOR AND OUTDOOR SORT OF BEER GARTEN KIND OF SCENARIO.
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BUT THERE WILL BE HAVING THE FIREWORKS.WE WILL BE HAVING THE BOUNCY CASTLES.
AND IN THIS CASE, THE BOUNCY RIDE CASTLE SUPPLIER PROVIDES A COMPLETE TURNKEY OPERATION.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO BE CONCERNED WITH VOLUNTEERS OR STAFF BEING, YOU KNOW, MANAGING THE RISK OF THE BOUNCY CASTLE THAT'S COMPLETELY SELF-CONTAINED, WHICH IS JUST ANOTHER LESSON LEARNED OF OUR NEW RISK MANAGEMENT APPROACH.
SO WE SHOULD STILL HAVE A LONG, FUN, LONG WEEKEND FOR FAMILIES ON THE LABOR DAY WEEKEND.
WE'VE HAD THE PUBLIC IN OUR LOBBY AS NEEDED, LOOSENING UP TO SOME DEGREE, YOU KNOW, FOR CITY HALL ACCESS. AND IT'S BEEN GOING REASONABLY WELL.
AND ASIDE FROM THAT, WE JUST SORT OF WAIT AND SEE WHAT MAY BE COMING DOWN THE PIPE.
THANK YOU. ITEM 10 PETITIONS ITEM 11 CORRESPONDENCE 11.1 LETTER FROM THE ELLIOT LAKE
[11. CORRESPONDENCE ]
JUNIOR A HOCKEY CLUB.I JUST LOOK FOR A MOTION TO RECEIVE.
MOVED BY COUNCILOR PEARCE, SECOND BY COUNCILOR MANN.
I'M JUST GOING TO READ THIS OUT LOUD, BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS GREAT SEEING SOMETHING OF THIS MAGNITUDE TOWARDS OUR STAFF.
DEAR, MAYOR MARCHISELLA, ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF ELLIOT LAKE JUNIOR A HOCKEY CLUB, I WANT TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE THE TREMENDOUS EFFORT PUT IN BY THE ARENA STAFF TO CREATE ICE TO ENSURE OUR RED WINGS TRIAL CAMP THIS PAST WEEKEND DID NOT HAVE TO BE CANCELED.
CITY STAFF HAD ALREADY BEEN FACING CHALLENGES WITH THE HEAT AND HUMIDITY BEFORE THE POWER OUTAGE, WHICH BEGAN WEDNESDAY EVENING, AUGUST 11TH, AND CARRIED OVER WELL INTO AUGUST 12TH, WHICH LEFT THE ICE SURFACE IN [INAUDIBLE] STATE.
ONCE THE POWER WAS RESTORED, THE ARENA STAFF, CONSISTING OF DAWN CRANE, [INAUDIBLE], CHAD D., BEN BRANDT, GERRAD DICKENSON, JULIE PREVOT AND TEGAN DUMONT WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND TO GET THE ICE READY FOR HOCKEY.
IF WE MISSED ANY ONE, WE'RE TRULY SORRY ABOUT THAT.
AND THEIR PREPARATION WORK WAS THEN FOLLOWED UP WITH LONG HOURS.
OVER THE WEEKEND TO KEEP THE ICE IN SHAPE AND THE CAMP ON SCHEDULE.
THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND, THE STAFF WERE VERY HELPFUL AND ACCOMMODATING AND WORKED WITHOUT COMPLAINT. FEEDBACK FROM PLAYERS AND PARENTS WAS VERY POSITIVE AND COMPLIMENTARY REGARDING THE ARENA, THE CAMP AND THEIR TIME SPENT IN OUR CITY.
THIS ABSOLUTELY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE CASE WITHOUT THE ARENA STAFF GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND. WE LOOK FORWARD TO A GREAT SEASON, A MUCH LESS CHALLENGING CAMP NEXT YEAR.
SINCERELY, LYNN [INAUDIBLE], THE CHAIR OF THE [INAUDIBLE].
LOVE THE RECOGNITION TOWARDS OUR STAFF.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LYNN AND THE TEAM.
THAT BEING SAID MOTION TO RECEIVE.
I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.
CALL] THAT'S CARRIED. IT'S RECEIVED.
THANK YOU. 12 NOTICE OF MOTION.
[13. COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS ]
13 COUNCIL'S REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.I'LL START OUT WITH, THERE'S A CURBSIDE RIB DINNER SERVED BY THE MASONIC LODGE COMING UP THIS THURSDAY, AUGUST 26TH IS TWENTY DOLLARS A PLATE.
TO RESERVE A PICKUP TIME YOU CAN CALL KEN PIERCE AT (705)848-3947 OR [INAUDIBLE] AT (705)261-0662. AS MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING WE HAVE THE LABOR DAY WEEKEND EVENTS COMING UP FRIDAY, THE 3RD OF SEPTEMBER.
WE'LL SEE THE DAY OF MOURNING BEING HELD AT THE MINERS MEMORIAL PARK AT 11:00 A.M.
FOLLOWING THIS EVENT WILL BE THE OFFICIAL UNVEILING OF THE PROSPECTOR MONUMENT AS LAURA [INAUDIBLE] BROWN WILL BE ATTENDING TO OFFICIALLY OPEN THE PROSPECTOR.
UPON COMPLETION, EVERYONE'S WELCOME TO ATTEND COLLINS HALL, WHERE THERE WILL BE LIGHT LUNCH AND REFRESHMENTS, AND SATURDAY, THE 4TH NORTH SHORE CRUISERS MAY POTENTIALLY BE HAVING BEER FEST AT THE COLLINS HALL, 6:00 P.M.
AGAIN, ALL DEPENDING ON ALGOMA PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE COVID SITUATION.
THE CITY WILL HOST A COMMUNITY BEER FEST, LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, BE ORGANIZED WITH LOCAL BANDS, WILL COMMENCE AT 8:00 P.M..
SUNDAY, THE 5TH, CHILDREN'S EVENT, BOUNCY LAND AT WESTVIEW PARK, AS MR. GAGNON JUST MENTIONED, THIS IS FROM TWO P.M.
TO EIGHT P.M. MUSIC WILL BE SUPPLIED BY A MOBILE SOUND AND THERE'LL BE A BARBECUE.
AND THIS WILL BE ENDING WITH THE QUIET FIREWORKS AT 9:30 P.M.
HANDLED BY DREAMCATCHER FIREWORKS OUT OF CAPREOL.
MONDAY, THE 6TH OF SEPTEMBER, CHILDREN'S EVENT AGAIN GOING ON A WESTVIEW PARK AGAIN
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BOUNCY LAND FROM TWO P.M.TO EIGHT P.M. AND AGAIN, MUSIC WILL BE BY MOBILE SOUNDS ENDING AFTER THE FIREWORKS, AND THERE'LL BE A BARBECUE ON HAND ORGANIZED BY THE ROTARY CLUB.
AND THE LABOR DAY FIREWORKS, REAL FIREWORKS WILL BE BETWEEN 9:30 P.M.
AND DUSK, AGAIN HANDLED BY DREAMCATCHER FIREWORKS OUT OF CAPREOL.
AND I'D ASK IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BEFORE I HIT OUR BIG TICKET ITEMS THIS EVENING. OKAY, SEEING NONE.
OUR BIG TICKET ITEMS WE HAVE FOR AUGUST 19TH WAS HYDRO ONE NETWORKS FORTY THREE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED RECEIVER GENERAL EIGHTY THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED [INAUDIBLE] LLP AND TRUST THE INSURANCE SETTLEMENT OF ONE HUNDRED AND NINETEEN THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED.
JULY TRANSIT RENTAL AND ONTARIO NORTHLAND, THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED ALGOMA DISTRICT SERVICE ADMINISTRATION BOARD AUGUSTA MUNICIPAL LEVEL LEVY ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY SIX THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED [INAUDIBLE] ASSOCIATES LIBRARY RENT FOR JULY AUGUST 21 [INAUDIBLE] TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED [INAUDIBLE] FORTY SIX THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND THOSE ARE BIG TICKET ITEMS FOR THE EVENING.
AGAIN, I'LL ASK ONE MORE TIME IF ANYONE HAS ANY OTHER COMMUNITY EVENTS COMING UP.
THERE'S NO ADDENDUM THIS EVENING, 15 INTRODUCTION, CONSIDERATION OF BYELAWS, FIFTEEN POINT
[15. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF BY-LAWS ]
ONE BYLAW 21-71 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE THE ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR THE PULVERIZATION DOUBLE SURFACE TREATMENT OF BOYCHUK, SOUTH BAY, PINE POND AND FIRE TOWER ROADS. MOVER PLEASE.ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL, STARTING WITH COUNCILOR TURNER.
THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU. FIFTEEN POINT TWO BYLAW SHOULD BE 21-73 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE THE ENTRY INTO OF A FACILITY USE AGREEMENT FOR THE CENTENNIAL ARENA. MOVER, PLEASE.
MOVED BY COUNCILOR PEARCE SECOND BY COUNCILOR CYR.
AGAIN, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES.
COUNCILOR PATRIE. YOU JUST MUTED YOURSELF, COUNCILOR PATRIE.
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP SORRY THROUGH YOU.
AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS BYLAW SHOULD BE PRESENTED OR SIGNED AS PRESENTED AND PUT FORWARD. I THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE CORRECTED, WORDED PROPERLY AND WORDED WITH THE CORPORATION NAME OF WHO THE CORPORATION IS THAT WE'RE ENTERING IN WITH, WHETHER IT BE THE BOARD, WHETHER IT BE THE OWNERS OF THE ELLIOT LAKE RED WINGS OR WHETHER IT BE THE CORPORATION, THE WAY THAT IT'S WORDED NOW, WE HAVE NOBODY IT'S STRICTLY A NAME.
IT'S AN IMPROPER BYLAW, IN MY OPINION.
AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DEFER THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
BRING IT BACK TO CORRECT THEM 100 PERCENT IN FAVOR OF DOING THIS AGREEMENT.
I JUST WANT TO WORDED CORRECTLY TO PROTECT THE MUNICIPALITY.
HEARD AND JUST TO REASSURE, I'M 90 PERCENT POSITIVE THAT THE ELLIOT LAKE RED WINGS IS AN INCORPORATED TITLE.
I'M NOT SURE, MR. GAGNON? I'M NOT SURE COUNCILOR PEARCE HELPED US EARLIER WITH HIS COMMENTS ABOUT THE FRANCHISE AND THE TEAM, AND THAT'S COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.
WE'RE SIGNING WITH THE RED WINGS THAT WAS SIGNED BY THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
THEY'RE THE ONES RENTING THE ICE.
WE TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THE DEBTS BECAUSE MANAGEMENT COMPANY'S PARCEL OF CLEARING OUT THAT DEBT. BUT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS AGREEMENT, IN MY OPINION, AND RECOMMEND THAT COUNCIL PASS IT AS IS AND WE'LL NEVER HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN.
I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO A DEBATE ON THIS.
I JUST WANTED TO APOLOGIZE TO MS. BRAY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO LEAVE HER OFF THE LIST OF PEOPLE WHO WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS.
SHE KNOWS HOW MUCH I VALUE HER INPUT ON AN AWFUL LOT OF ITEMS. SO THANK YOU, MS. BRAY. OK, IF NOTHING ELSE TO BE SAID, CALL FOR ROLL CALL ONCE AGAIN.
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THAT'S CARRIED. FEELING LIKE I MS. SOMEBODY, DID I MISS SOMEBODY? NO? OK. MS. BRAY DID I MISS SOMEBODY? COUNCILOR FINAMORE HAS [INAUDIBLE].THAT'S CARRIED, THANK YOU. PUBLIC QUESTION PERIOD.
WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS EVENING'S MEETING.
[17. CLOSED SESSION ]
CLOSED SESSION. LOOK FOR A MOTION TO MOVE INTO CLOSED SESSION.SECOND BY COUNCILOR TURNER, AGAIN QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES.
SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.
THAT'S CARRIED. WE'LL SEE YOU ALL IN THE NEXT FIVE TO TEN MINUTES.
COUNCILOR MANN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
I LOOK FOR A MOVER TO COME OUT OF CLOSED SESSION.
MOVED BY COUNCILOR MANN, SECOND BY COUNCILOR FINAMORE ROLL CALL VOTE.
OKAY, WE'RE NOW, BACK TO OPEN SESSION.
MR. GAGNON AND MR. ANTUNES FOR THAT ONE. 18 CONFIRMATORY BYLAW EIGHTEEN POINT ONE BYLAW 21-72 BEING A BYLAW
[18. CONFIRMATORY BY-LAW ]
TO CONFIRM THE PROCEEDINGS OF COUNCIL AT ITS MEETING HELD ON AUGUST 23RD, 2021.CAN I HAVE A MOVER PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILOR MANN? SECOND, BY COUNCILOR PEARCE.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.
MOVER? MOVED BY COUNCILOR MANN, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR CYR.
WE'RE NOW ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR COMING OUT AND EVERYONE WATCHING AT HOME.
SEE YOU AT BOUNCY LAND.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.