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CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER THIS REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING OF COUNCIL FOR THE
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CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 27, 2021 TIME IS 7 P.M..AS FAR AS ROLL CALL, ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING.
[3. DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST (Part 1 of 2)]
ASK IF THERE'S ANY DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST AT THIS TIME.YES, I'D LIKE TO DECLARE FOR ITEM SIX POINT THREE IN THE DIRECT CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR THIS ITEM FOR COUNCIL.
ANY OTHER DECLARATIONS THIS EVENING? OK.
[4. ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES]
ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES, FOUR POINT ONE, SEPTEMBER 13, 2021 AND FOUR POINT TWO SEPTEMBER 21, 2021 CAN I HAVE A MOVER TO ADOPT THE MINUTES PLEASE.ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE.
ROLL CALL VOTE TO ADOPT THE MINUTES, WE'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR CYR.
I'M IN FAVOR, THOSE ARE CARRIED THANK YOU.
POINT THREE READING OF RESOLUTION PASSED FOLLOWING CLOSED SESSION OF SEPTEMBER 13, 2021 COUNCIL MEETING.
MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR CYR THAT A ONE YEAR EXTENSION ON THE CONSTRUCTION DEADLINE BE AUTHORIZED AS PER THE REQUEST DATED SEPTEMBER 8, 2021, WITH RESPECT TO THE COVENANT ON 42 OAKLAND BOULEVARD, SUBJECT TO THE APPLICABLE FEE OF $1000 AND THAT WAS CARRIED.
AND ITEM FIVE PUBLIC PRESENTATION, FIVE POINT ONE ST.
JOSEPH'S GENERAL HOSPITAL PRESENTATION OF STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE TIMEFRAME OF
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2022 TO 2026, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED THIS EVENING BY CEO JEREMY STEVENSON.BRUCE, [INAUDIBLE] VP OF HUMAN RESOURCES STRATEGY AND TRANSFORMATION.
LET ME WELCOME YOU, MR. STEVENSON, NOT ONLY TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT YOUR FAMILY HERE.
WELL, SAID, MR. MAYOR, CAN YOU HEAR ME OK? BEAUTIFUL.
IT WAS A PLEASURE MEETING OUR MAYOR.
WHEN I FIRST STARTED, AND IT'S NICE TO SEE SOME FAMILIAR FACES AS WELL AS MY FAMILY HAS SETTLED HERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND MY WIFE HAS STARTED WORKING AND AND OUR KIDS ARE IN SCHOOL AND AND OUR HOUSE IS ALMOST DONE ON A PERSONAL NOTE.
WE RUN ACTUALLY A HEALTH SYSTEM, A FAMILY OF EMPLOYEES, A BIG EMPLOYER HERE IN TOWN WHERE WE PROVIDE FIRST CLASS CARE.
HAVING WORKED IN MANY HOSPITALS, MORE IMPORTANTLY, HAVING BEEN THE LEAD FOR THE NORTHEAST FOR HEALTH CARE.
I'LL TELL YOU, I'VE WALKED INTO MANY HOSPITALS AND I CHOSE ST.
JOE'S FOR A BIG REASON BECAUSE YOU ARE THE HOW IS DESCRIBED.
THESE ARE THE WORDS THAT THEY USED FOR OUR SURVEY JUST RECENTLY.
WE ARE THE BIGGEST OF THE SMALL HOSPITALS.
WHAT THEY MEAN BY THAT IS WHERE I USED TO COME FROM.
I USED TO DRIVE FROM NORTH BAY TO TORONTO FOR MANY MEETINGS, AND THAT CORRIDOR REPRESENTED THREE AND A HALF HOURS.
AND GUESS HOW MANY CT SCANS I WOULD SEE? GUESS HOW MANY ICUS AND AND OBS BEDS AND ORS, ET CETERA IN THAT THREE AND A HALF HOUR CORRIDOR? THERE WAS MANY.
GUESS WHAT? I TOLD THE MINISTER I SAID, I AM IN THE SAME THREE AND A HALF CORRIDOR BETWEEN THE SIOUX AND SUDBURY.
AND GUESS HOW MANY ISD YOU SEE? ONLY ONE.
THESE ARE CRITICAL SERVICES NOT JUST FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BUT FOR THE CATCHMENT OF THIS AREA.
HAVING SAID THAT, IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO REALLY PUT OUT THERE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING A CARE THAT WE CALL FIRST CLASS.
THIS IS NOT WE'RE NOT MICKEY MOUSE HERE.
WE ARE PROVIDING FIRST CLASS CARE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
WE WANT OUR SIGNS IN THE FRONT TO BE IN FRENCH AND ENGLISH AND OJIBWE.
WE WANT IT TO BE FOR EVERYONE.
WE WE CARE FOR OUR SENIORS AS WE CARE FOR OUR YOUNG ONES.
THEY GO THROUGH THEIR FULL JOURNEY OF CARE.
HERE WE HAVE A MODEL HERE THAT WHOEVER WALKS THROUGH THESE DOORS, HAVE THEY BEEN TREATED LIKE YOUR MOTHER, YOUR FATHER, A LOVED ONE, A CHILD, YOUR OWN CHILD, YOUR OWN GRANDPARENTS? AND THERE'S THERE'S A BUZZ IN THE ORGANIZATION, AND ONE OF THESE BUZZ IS ACTUALLY TO COME UP WITH A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE NEW YEAR.
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WE WANT TO KICK OFF IN THE NEW YEAR.THE FOUR AREAS OF STRATEGY THAT THE STAFF THE COMMITTEE FEELS LIKE, AND I REALLY WANT TO BE FRANK WITH YOU.
WE REALLY FELT THAT BRUCE AND I, WHO IS THE LEAD ON THIS, THAT THIS IS THE VENUE THAT REPRESENTS BEST OUR COMMUNITY.
YES, WE WANT TO GO OUT AND MEET WITH THEM, BUT WE WANTED TO START HERE.
I HOPE THAT YOU HEAR THAT IN VOLUMES AND WE IN FACT MET WITH OUR MAYOR AND OUR MPP [INAUDIBLE] TO JUST TO LET THEM HEAR THAT AND KNOW THAT.
I'D RATHER HAVE BRUCE GO THROUGH KIND OF PRESENTATION WE PREPARED, ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND AT THE END, IF YOU LIKE, I'D LOVE TO SHARE WITH YOU.
TRULY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, BEING THE NEW CEO HERE AND WITH THE NEW VISION, WHAT I FEEL THE FIVE AREAS OF PRIORITY ARE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT I'LL DO THAT AT THE END WHEN I HEAR SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS TOO, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, BRUCE.
THANK YOU, JIM OR JEREMY, YOUR WORSHIP AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
NATALIE, IF I COULD TROUBLE YOU, I KNOW JOEY SENT YOU THE PRESENTATION.
DO YOU MIND PUTTING THE PRESENTATION UP ON THE SCREEN FOR ME, PLEASE? I'M WORKING ON IT, I'M THE ZOOM HOST THOUGH.
IS THAT A MINNOW? OR IS THAT A FISH? YOU'RE MUTED, DANIEL.
SO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WELCOME, THIS IS THE PROPOSAL FOR THE DRAFT STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE ST. JOSEPH GENERAL HOSPITAL ELLIOT LAKE FOR THE PLANNING YEARS 2022 TO 2026.
YOU'LL NOTICE ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE THAT WE'RE AT STAGE EIGHT.
SO STAGE EIGHT IS THE CONSULTATION PROCESS THAT WE'RE UNDERTAKING AS IT RELATES TO BOTH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL TO THE ORGANIZATION.
JOSEPH GENERAL HOSPITAL IS NOT JUST THE HOSPITAL ITSELF, BUT WE'RE ALSO COMPRISED OF THE HOSPITAL, THE MANOR AND THE OAKS, THERE SO THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE CENTERS OF SERVICE THAT WE ENCOMPASS IN TERMS OF OUR ORGANIZATION.
WE WERE PROUD OF ALL THREE OF THOSE.
SO JUST KIND OF SOME BACKGROUND TO US, A $40 MILLION ANNUAL BUDGET, STAFF ROUGHLY THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THREE, THAT NUMBER COMES UP AND DOWN.
BETWEEN THE THREE FACILITIES, ROUGHLY ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY SEVEN BEDS, LOCAL PHYSICIANS, TWELVE PHYSICIANS AND THREE MIDWIVES, LOCAL SURGEONS TWO, LOCAL ANESTHESIOLOGIST TWO, VISITING SPECIALISTS TWENTY THREE, HOSPITAL ADMISSIONS ONE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED FOUR, CT SCANS.
WE'RE GOING TO KICK THAT OFF AT 2021 AND LAUNCH THAT FULLY.
DELIVERIES OBS 60, PATIENTS IN ICU THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO ADMITTED, VISITS AS IT RELATES TO ER, ROUGHLY EIGHTEEN THOUSAND, GENERAL SURGICAL CLINIC FIVE THOUSAND TWO EIGHTY SIX, NUMBER OF SITES AS WE INDICATED THREE, CATCHMENT POPULATION SIXTEEN THOUSAND AND THEN WE GET INTO DIALYSIS, ONCOLOGY AND ORTHOPEDIC [INAUDIBLE] JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF VISITS WE HAVE ACROSS THE BOARD AS IT RELATES TO OUR PATIENTS.
SO WE SEE OURSELVES AS A FIRST CLASS CENTER OF EXCELLENCE AND WHAT MAKES US UNIQUE? WE ARE THE FIFTH LARGEST HOSPITAL, IF YOU WILL, IN THE AREA.
OVER A THREE AND A HALF COVERED THREE AND A HALF HOUR CORRIDOR IS WHAT WE COVER.
BUT HERE'S WHAT MAKES US UNIQUE IN THAT THREE AND A HALF HOUR REGION, WE'RE THE ONLY HOSPITAL THAT PROVIDES OBSTETRICAL SERVICES, INTENSIVE CARE, SURGICAL SERVICE, SPECIALIST CLINICS, ADDICTION TREATMENT SERVICES IN THE OAK CENTER.
THE ONLY CT SCAN WE PROVIDE THE LARGEST SATELLITE ONCOLOGY PROGRAM AND DIALYSIS SERVICES.
WE HAVE A RICH HISTORY AND LEGACY WITH THE SISTERS OF ST.
JOSEPH, AND ULTIMATELY WE SERVE THE SURROUNDING POPULATION.
WE ALSO HAVE THE OLDEST COMMUNITIES, SO WITH THOSE PARTICULAR DYNAMICS ARE ALSO SOME CHALLENGES.
SO HERE'S OUR QUARTER WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE THAT CORRIDOR THAT WE SERVE.
YOU KNOW THAT THREE AND A HALF PERIOD OR THREE AND HALF HOUR PERIOD THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IN TERMS OF THE CHALLENGES OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE'RE PROUD OF OUR CATHOLIC HERITAGE, AND WE CONTINUE TO PROMOTE IT AS AN OPERATIONAL OPERATING PRINCIPLES OF THE HOSPITAL IN TERMS OF THE DIRECTION AND WHAT WE'RE BUILDING UPON.
SO WE'RE BUILDING UPON THE SISTERS OF ST.
JOSEPH IN TERMS OF THE FRAMEWORK OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH IN TERMS OF OUR EIGHT OR NINE STAGES AS WE SIT.
WE'VE DONE THE INTRODUCTION INTERNALLY AS A NEW SENIOR LEADERSHIP TEAM AND WE'VE TAKEN THAT THROUGH VARIOUS STAGES.
WE'VE DONE IT WITH THE BROADER MANAGEMENT GROUP.
WE'VE GONE TO THE MEDICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE'VE GONE BEFORE OUR BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
WE HAD AN ALL STAFF MEETING ON AUGUST THE 19TH.
WE DID A PRELIMINARY WITH WITH YOUR MAYOR AND YOUR SENIOR STAFF AND ALSO MP [INAUDIBLE] ON THE SECOND.
HERE WE ARE ON THE TWENTY SEVENTH PRESENTING TO YOU, THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITY, THE FRAMEWORK WITHIN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
I ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION LATER TO THE PFAC JUST SO THAT FAMILY COUNCIL OR THE THE COUNCIL AND THEN NEXT SLIDE, IF I COULD.
THIS IS THE REAL MEAT OF ONE OF OUR SLIDES.
SO OUR COMMUNITY, OUR EMPLOYEES ARE YOUR COMMUNITY.
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WE HAVE A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIVE FULL TIME JOBS.WE HAVE A HUNDRED SIXTY FIVE PART TIME JOBS.
WE HAVE THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY EMPLOYEES.
WE HAVE A SEVEN HUNDRED EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND BIWEEKLY PAYROLL AND AN ANNUAL PAYROLL OF TWENTY MILLION FOUR HUNDRED AND TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.
I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST TO YOU THAT WE ARE YOUR COMMUNITY AND WE ARE AT THE CORE OF YOUR COMMUNITY AS BEING THE LARGEST EMPLOYER IN THE AREA.
BUT WE NEED SOME ASSISTANCE AND WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH YOU ON A FEW THINGS.
QUITE FRANKLY, RECRUITMENT IS A CHALLENGE FOR US RECRUITMENT IN A COUPLE OF KEY AREAS, NURSING AND RECRUITMENT AS IT RELATES TO PHYSICIANS.
AND IT'S NOT JUST RECRUITMENT.
WE CONSIDER OURSELVES TO BE IN A POSITION OF BEING IN A CRISIS AND TODAY'S PART TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE.
OUR NEXT PARTICULAR CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE IS HOUSING AND ACCOMMODATION.
SO WHERE WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN DOING SOME RECRUITMENT, THOSE PEOPLE HAVE FAILED TO FIND APPROPRIATE ACCOMMODATIONS, WHETHER THAT'S BEEN RENTAL OR SOMETHING TO PURCHASE.
SO THAT'S A PARTICULAR CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE.
AS IT RELATES TO OUR COMMUNITY OR DEMOGRAPHICS AND OTHERWISE, I WOULD COMPLIMENT YOU ON BEING VERY SUCCESSFUL IN IDENTIFYING YOURSELF AS A RETIREMENT COMMUNITY, BUT WITHIN THAT DEFINITION ITSELF, IT CREATES CHALLENGES FOR US BECAUSE THE REALITY IS WE'RE NOT DRAWING OUR WORKFORCE FROM OUR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF THE SPECIALIZED INDIVIDUALS THAT WE NEED FOR CERTAIN POSITIONS AND JOBS.
BUT THERE'S OTHER CONCERNS WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US AND PART OF THAT WE WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU IN TERMS OF WHAT WE SEE AS OUR FUTURE AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES COLLECTIVELY FOR OUR FUTURE.
SO WE KNOW A COUPLE OF THINGS RIGHT NOW.
WE KNOW THAT THE REPLACEMENT RATE, YOU KNOW, THE BIRTH RATE IS AT TWO POINT ONE SHOULD BE AT A REPLACEMENT LEVEL AT TWO POINT ONE.
BUT WE KNOW THE FERTILITY RATE FOR CANADA IS AT ONE POINT FIVE FOUR, WE KNOW IN ONTARIO, THE FERTILITY RATE IS ONE POINT FOUR SIX.
QUEBEC, IT'S ONE POINT FIVE NINE.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT SLIDE JUST FOR A MOMENT, WE REALIZE THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING ENOUGH BIRTHS TO MATCH THE REPLACEMENT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE NEED FOR STAFF FOR THE FUTURE.
BUT HERE ARE SOME DISTURBING AND CONCERNING STATS.
SO THIS IS A LAST TIME THE DATA WAS DONE ON IMMIGRATION, 2018.
THE GTA WELCOMED ONE HUNDRED AND SIX THOUSAND IMMIGRANTS, THE REST OF ONTARIO ONLY WELCOMED THIRTY ONE THOUSAND.
SO WE KNOW THAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO CENTER AROUND IMMIGRATION, AND WE KNOW THIS FUTURE ALSO IS GOING TO CENTER AROUND IMMIGRATION AS IT RELATES TO WHAT OUR COMMUNITIES ARE GOING TO DO TO MAKE THOSE PEOPLE FEEL WELCOME.
YOU'LL NOTICE IN THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT 2016, YOU'LL SEE A DOWNWARD SPIKE IN TERMS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE RESIDED IN THE GTA.
THAT'S WHEN THE SYRIANS CAME TO CANADA, IF YOU WILL, AND PART OF THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT WAS THAT THERE WAS A PROGRAM THAT WAS LAUNCHED FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE DISPERSED ACROSS ALL OF ONTARIO IN TERMS OF WHERE THEY NEEDED TO ULTIMATELY GO.
AND I SUGGEST TO YOU THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE MUNICIPAL, THE PROVINCIAL AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN TERMS OF THE WAY WE'RE MANAGING OUR PROCESSES AS IT RELATES TO IMMIGRATION.
HERE'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE AS AN EMPLOYER, SO IMMIGRATION WILL ACCOUNT FOR NEARLY 100 PERCENT OF ONTARIO'S POPULATION GROWTH BY 2035.
THAT'S ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF ONTARIO'S POPULATION GROWTH WILL BE REPRESENTED BY IMMIGRATION BY 2035.
SO I PUT BEFORE YOU AS THE FATHERS OF THE CITY, FATHERS AND MOTHERS OF THE CITY, IF YOU WILL, THAT WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING TO MAKE IMMIGRATION AND IMMIGRANTS MORE WELCOME TO OUR COMMUNITIES FOR SUSTAINABILITY.
SO WE AS A PARTICULAR EMPLOYER, ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE VERY DIVERSE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AS AN ORGANIZATION.
FOR ACCEPTING PEOPLE INTO OUR CORPORATION IN TERMS OF WHERE WE'RE GOING MOVING FORWARD, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO AS A FIRST CLASS HEALTH CARE CENTER OF EXCELLENCE, WHAT MAKES SJGH A CENTER OF EXCELLENCE IS IT SETS US APART, WE'RE THE FIFTH LARGEST HOSPITAL HEALTH CENTER, FIVE OUT OF 25 HOSPITALS IN THE NORTHEAST REGION, 400 SQUARE KILOMETERS AND IN OVER A THREE AND A HALF HOUR CORRIDOR BETWEEN SUE ST MARIE AND SUDBURY, WHERE THE LARGEST CORPORATION WITH THREE SITES AND THE LARGEST 55 BED HOSPITAL IN THAT OVER THREE AND A HALF THE REGION.
WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT OUR SPECIALTIES AND WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THAT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
SO I'M GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO OUR MISSION HASN'T CHANGED AND DOESN'T PLAN TO CHANGE.
AS A CATHOLIC HEALTHCARE ORGANIZATION, OUR MISSION IS TO BUILD ON THE LEGACY OF OUR FOUNDERS, THE SISTERS OF ST.
JOSEPH OF SAINT MARIE, AND CONTINUE THE HEALING MINISTRY OF JESUS SERVING ALL WHO COME TO US COME TO US FOR CARE.
WHAT WE PROPOSE IS OUR VISION.
OUR VISION IS TO WORK IN COLLABORATION WITH HEALTH PROVIDERS TO ESTABLISH A FIRST CLASS CENTER OF EXCELLENCE FOR PATIENT HEALTH CARE IN OUR REGION.
THIS ULTIMATELY THIS VISION OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
SO OUR VALUES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN COMPASSION, RESPECT, INTEGRITY, SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY AND SACREDNESS OF LIFE.
WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED IN THIS ROUND OF STRATEGIC PLANNING IS THAT WE ADDED HUMILITY AND HARMONY.
WE THINK THAT REFLECTS THE NEW LEADERSHIP AND THE EXISTING LEADERSHIP IN TERMS OF THE VALUES WE HAVE.
SO THESE ARE THE KEY VALUES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS AN ORGANIZATION GOING FORWARD.
SO THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE IS THE FOUR PILLARS OF WHERE WE'RE ULTIMATELY UNFOLDING, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'VE COME TO.
SO FOUR AREAS, OUR FOCUS IS THE PATIENT EXPERIENCE.
OUR CULTURE IS INSPIRED EMPLOYEES.
OUR COMMITMENT IS DEMONSTRATED LEADERSHIP.
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SO THE PATIENT EXPERIENCE, AS JEREMY INDICATED EARLIER, WE WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE TREATED LIKE FAMILY.WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE QUALITY, SAFE, COMPASSIONATE, PATIENT AND SENIOR CENTERED CARE.
KEY WORD THERE IS SENIOR CENTERED CARE BECAUSE THAT'S REFLECTIVE OF THE AVERAGE AGE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THE PEOPLE WE SERVE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE ACCESS AND EQUITY FOR ALL.
WE WANT OUR INSPIRED EMPLOYEES.
THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US IN TERMS OF HOW OUR EMPLOYEES FEEL AND BEING A SAFE PLACE.
SO ENSURING THE EMPLOYEE SAFETY AND ADJUST CULTURE AND ADJUST CULTURE IS ALL ABOUT HOW WE TREAT OUR EMPLOYEES AND MAKING SURE THAT WHEN ERRORS ARE MADE OR OR THERE'S PARTICULAR CHALLENGES THAT WE DON'T FOCUS ON WHO MADE THEM OR WHAT, BUT RATHER WHAT HAPPENED AND HOW WE NEED TO LEARN FROM THOSE.
WE ALSO WANT TO SET A STANDARD OF CIVILITY AND PROMOTING CULTURAL DIVERSITY.
WE ALSO WANT TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT OF STAFF APPRECIATION.
WE WANT TO ENABLE STAFF TO WHAT WE CALL HEAR THE MUSIC, IF YOU WILL.
WE WANT TO FOSTER COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR AREA SERVICES.
WE WANT TO COORDINATION WITH REGIONAL SERVICES.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A TRANSFORMATION OF SERVICE DELIVERY.
KIND OF ONE STOP SHOPPING IS OUR SHOPPING IS OUR GOAL.
OUR COMMITMENT IS DEMONSTRATED LEADERSHIP.
WE WANT TO START BY UPHOLDING THE LEGACY OF CATHOLIC HEALTH CARE SERVICES.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IN ALL COMMUNICATIONS WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS, AND WE WANT TO PROVIDE FIRST CLASS SERVICES AS A CENTER OF EXCELLENCE.
SO THESE ARE THE FOUR PILLARS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF OUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES GOING FORWARD IN TERMS OF THE FRAMEWORK THAT WILL FRAME THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS FROM 2022 TO 2026.
SO WE ARE SEEKING COUNCIL INPUT ON OUR PRESENCE IN YOUR COMMUNITY, AND WE ARE OPEN TO ANY COMMENTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS ON OUR STRATEGIC GOALS AND OBJECTIVES IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
ST. JOSEPH GENERAL HOSPITAL ELLIOT LAKE IS SEEKING A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE COUNCIL AND STAFF TO FIND INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS TO OUR RECRUITMENT AND HOUSING CHALLENGES.
ST. JOSEPH'S GENERAL HOSPITAL ELLIOT LAKE IS PROMOTING AN INCLUSIVE APPROACH TO WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS OF WHICH WE CONSIDER YOU.
IS THERE IN THE OPINION OF COUNCIL ANY OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS YOU BELIEVE ST.
JOSEPH GENERAL HOSPITAL SHOULD ENGAGE WITH IN OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS? DO YOU, MR. MAYOR, THEN I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THESE THREE KEY QUESTIONS WERE WHY WERE BEFORE YOU TODAY TO CHAT WITH YOU ABOUT NEXT STEPS AND WHERE WE WANT TO GO.
SO WITH THAT, I GUESS IF WE COULD GO BACK TO STOP SCREEN SHARING AND COME BACK TO THE GROUP.
OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. [INAUDIBLE].
APOLOGIZE THAT YOU HAD TO RUSH THROUGH THAT SO MUCH.
TWO WEEKS AGO, WE HAD A MUCH MORE IN-DEPTH PRESENTATION FROM YOURSELF AND MR. STEVENSON, WHICH WAS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
AND AS I MENTIONED AT THAT TIME, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE POPULATION AND SEEING THE GROWTH, NOT JUST IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN CANADA, THE WHOLE COUNTRY WAS BUILT ON DIVERSITY.
OUR COMMUNITY IS EXTREMELY DIVERSE AND WELCOMES ALL NEWCOMERS.
BUT YOU BROUGHT US TO THE NEXT POINT OF HOUSING CRISIS.
AND WHAT CAN THE MUNICIPALITY DO AS FAR AS THE HOUSING CRISIS? AND I KNOW SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS ARE WORKING ON PLANS TO CONTINUE TO SEE THE DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AS FAR AS THE MUNICIPALITY IS CONCERNED, BASICALLY WHAT WE DO IS ATTEMPT TO MAKE LAND AVAILABLE AND DESIRABLE FOR DEVELOPERS TO COME IN AND BE ABLE TO BUILD AND CREATE NEW OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT AREA.
IT IS A DEFINITE ISSUE AT THE MOMENT.
I APPRECIATE THE SHORTAGES OF STAFF THAT YOU HAVE.
I KNOW LATER ON THIS WEEK WE DO HAVE A PHYSICIAN RECRUITMENT MEETING THAT I KNOW YOU'LL BOTH BE TAKING PART IN AND WE'LL BE DISCUSSING SOME OF OUR CHALLENGES THERE.
A LOT OF IT IS LOOKING AT OUR AREA HERE WHERE WE'RE RUN ON A ROSTER SYSTEM, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE MAJORITY OF THE PROVINCE, AND THAT KIND OF HINDERS THE ABILITY TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN PHYSICIANS ALONG WITH, YOU KNOW, IT'S MOVING TO ELLIOT LAKE.
EVERYONE THAT LIVES HERE LOVES THE OUTDOORS, BUT TRYING TO FIND NEW DOCTORS, NURSES THAT THAT SHARE THAT LOVE FOR THE OUTDOORS AND THE SMALL, SMALLER COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, 30 KILOMETERS OFF THE BEATEN PATH WITH THE WE DON'T HAVE THE HUGE SHOPPING MALLS WHERE YOU CAN SPEND ALL THAT HARD EARNED MONEY AS SOME OF THE BIGGER CITIES.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AT RECRUITING AND GETTING SOME OF THE YOUNGER DOCTORS TO COME HERE AND NURSES AND STAY HERE.
SO HOPEFULLY TOGETHER WE CAN START TO SORT OUT SOME OF THESE CHALLENGES AND CARRY ON FOR THE FUTURE.
THAT BEING SAID, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS, COUNCILLOR MANN.
THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU, TO MR. STEVENSON AND TO MR. [INAUDIBLE].
I GUESS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING FORWARD THE PRESENTATION OF THE STRAT PLAN FOR THE HOSPITAL FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
IT HAS BEEN SOME TIME SINCE WE'VE HAD A FORMAL PRESENTATION FROM FROM THE
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HOSPITAL, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.I THINK IT'S CLEAR IN THE INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TONIGHT THAT YOU DO ABSOLUTELY TOUCH EVERY COMPONENT OF OUR COMMUNITY WITH THE OUTREACH OF STAFFING AND THE FLOW OF FUNDS INTO THE COMMUNITY.
SO I THINK TO ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS, I THINK ANYONE THAT CAN BETTER ASSIST IN MOVING THE GOALS OF YOUR CORPORATION AND THE GOALS OF THE MUNICIPALITY FORWARD, THEY SHOULD ALL BE AT THE TABLE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY TRADITIONAL OR NONTRADITIONAL PARTNERS.
I THINK ANYTHING IS UP FOR GRABS IN ORDER TO, AS THE MAYOR CLEARLY SAID, HOUSING IS AN ISSUE.
WE HAVE BEEN GRAPPLING WITH IT FOR SOME TIME.
IT'S REALLY NOT GOING TO BE RESOLVED UNFORTUNATELY, OVERNIGHT.
AND I THINK WE AS A MUNICIPALITY ARE BEGINNING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THAT PIECE.
WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE STAFF AND RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO ASSIST THE RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE ONE ONE CT BETWEEN SUDBURY AND THE SUE IS GREAT TO HAVE.
I KNOW THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE HOSPITAL HAS WORKED ON FOR YEARS, BACK AND FORTH THAT DISCUSSION.
IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE IT ACTUALLY HERE, THE BENEFITS OF THAT FOR THE RESIDENTS AND FOR THE PHYSICIANS TO HAVE THAT LEVEL OF THAT STANDARD OF CARE AVAILABLE IS TREMENDOUS.
I KNOW THAT THAT PROCESS WAS BEGUN BY YOUR PREDECESSOR.
BUT AGAIN, HAVING THAT AND THIS OPEN DIALOG I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO TO THIS COUNCIL HELPING IN ANY WAY WE CAN TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? NO, AGAIN, BOTH MR. [INAUDIBLE] MR. STEVENSON, A BIG THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION THIS EVENING AND REACHING OUT TO US.
I DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING IN THE FUTURE AND AS I RECALL TELLING YOU A FEW WEEKS AGO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THERE TO SUPPORT YOU FOR ANY REQUESTS WITH THE MINISTRY.
AND I BELIEVE I TOLD YOU MY INTERESTING STORY FROM ONE OF OUR VISITS TO QUEEN'S PARK.
WE HAD A PA LOOK AT THE MAP AND POINT AT SUBMARINE POINT AT SUE ST.
MARIE AND SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
YEAH, WELL, WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND WE'LL SEE YOU FOR OUR PHYSICIAN RECRUITMENT MEETING.
YES SIR? I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR INVITING US, AND I DO.
WE ARE AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORDS AND ALSO ESPECIALLY NORM'S WORDS, WE WE WOULD LIKE TO.
I KNOW YOUR AGENDAS ARE BIG ALL THE TIME, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO COME REGULARLY.
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, EVERY QUARTER OR EVERY OTHER MONTH OR TWICE A YEAR, WHATEVER WORKS WITH YOU.
THERE IS SO MUCH THAT'S HAPPENING HERE IN THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT AND THERE'S A BUZZ HERE.
WE WANT TO SHARE THOSE THINGS WITH YOU.
YOU'LL SEE WE WANT TO WE WE HAVE TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY MORE.
THERE'S MONDAYS [INAUDIBLE] CEO HUDDLES, I GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY MORE.
REALLY, IT'S IN THE HOSPITAL, BUT IT GETS OUT THERE.
YOU'LL NOTICE WE'RE ON FACEBOOK NOW.
WE REALLY TRY TO PROMOTE THE GOOD THAT IS HAPPENING HERE AND WE LIKE TO DO THE SAME THING WITH YOU.
KEEP THAT IN YOUR MIND AS YOU LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC DIRECTIONS.
WE DO ALSO HAVE FIVE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND AND THEY REALLY RESONATE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
WE'RE UNDER BETTER WHEN IT COMES TIME TO LONG TERM CARE BEDS.
IT'S NOT FAIR FOR SUCH A LARGE COMMUNITY.
YOU ONLY HAVE 64 LONG TERM CARE BEDS.
WE'RE LUCKY THAT NORM AND HIS TEAM IS DOING SO MUCH ON THEIR END, BUT WE NEED TO DO MORE HERE.
SO WE HAVE WE HAVE A STRATEGY.
WE WANT TO GET AT LEAST ANOTHER POT OF 32 AND GO FROM 64 TO 96 BEDS IS ONE OF THOSE STRATEGIES.
ANOTHER ONE IS THE CARE IN HERE IN THE BUILDING, THE PHARMACY AND THE AUTOMATED DISPENSING UNITS.
IT'S WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.
WE WANT TO BRING THOSE STANDARDS UP.
SO WE WERE PUTTING A LOT OF ENERGY ON RENOVATING INSIDE HERE, OUR PHARMACY AND THE THEY LOOK LIKE VENDING MACHINES, BUT THEY'RE FOR YOUR MEDICATION AND THE QUALITY OF THE CARE AND THE STANDARDS ARE UNHEARD OF.
YOU SEE THOSE IN THE BIG HOSPITALS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THEM HERE IN ELLIOT LAKE, I GUARANTEE YOU.
NUMBER THREE IS OUR HEALTH SYSTEM.
WE'RE CONNECTED TO 25 HOSPITALS IN THE NORTH.
THAT IS QUITE THE UNDERTAKING DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE GOING TO SUDBURY, THE SIOUX, BLIND RIVER, MANNITOL AND ESPANOLA, YOU WILL BE CONNECTED.
YOUR CARE, YOUR YOUR HEALTH RECORDS WILL BE ABLE TO BE ACCESSIBLE AND REACH IN ALL THOSE CORNERS OF THE NORTH.
THE BIG ONE IS OUR FOURTH ONE IS OUR PHYSICIAN AND NURSING RECRUITMENT.
WE NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME ON THIS WITH YOU, WITH WITH THE WITH YOURSELF AND THIS COMMITTEE WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT.
I KNOW, WE'RE STARTING THE DISCUSSION ON THURSDAY.
AND LASTLY, IT'S OUR PEOPLE HERE.
IT'S OUR CULTURE WHERE A LOT OF FOCUS ON UNITY, ON CREATING A VISION OF A FIRST CLASS CENTER OF EXCELLENCE.
SO WHEN YOU COME HERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M GETTING THE BEST CARE, I'M GETTING FANTASTIC DOCTORS.
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I'M GETTING FANTASTIC NURSES.WE RECRUIT TO GET THE BEST HERE.
WE'RE IN A SHORTAGE, BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO TRY TO FIND THE BEST NURSES WE CAN, THE BEST PHYSICIANS, WHICH MAKES IT EVEN MORE CHALLENGING.
SO I'LL END ON THAT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
JUST ONE MORE NOTE BEFORE YOU LEAVE MR. STEVENSON, I JUST REMEMBERED ANOTHER PART OF THE CONVERSATION WE HAD, AND I DEFINITELY WANT TO THANK ALL THE NURSES, ALL THE STAFF AT THE HOSPITAL.
IN MY PAST EXPERIENCE, ABSOLUTELY AMAZING PEOPLE.
I HAVE HAD COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS SAYING, YOU KNOW, I WAITED SIX HOURS IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM.
I WAITED THREE HOURS WHILE YOU GO TO AN EMERGENCY ROOM IN TORONTO AND SEE HOW LONG YOU'RE GOING TO BE WAITING.
BUT WHEN YOU DO GET THE CARE, IT IS THE BEST OF THE BEST.
EXTREMELY KIND NURSES ALL THE WAY AROUND, RIGHT DOWN TO YOUR STAFF DOING THE LAUNDRY, THE COOKS IN THE KITCHEN, YOU KNOW, ALL AROUND GREAT PEOPLE AND LIKE I SAID, A LARGER FAMILY.
THE ONE THING I WANT TO ASK YOU BEFORE YOU LEAVE.
MAYBE YOU CAN PUT A PLUG IN THERE.
DO YOU HAVE A PROGRAM FOR YOUR STAFF? SAY SOMEBODY WORKING IN THE KITCHEN OR ONE OF YOUR CLEANING STAFF WANT TO BE A NURSE? IS THERE SOMETHING THERE THAT CAN DRAG THEM FORWARD TO THAT NEXT PHASE IN THEIR CAREER PATH? LOVE THE QUESTION.
SO WE'VE GOT TWO VEINS RIGHT NOW.
ONE'S CALLED A RECRUITMENT PLAN AND RETENTION PLAN.
AND ON BOTH OF THEM, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY SIMILAR.
AND THAT'S I THINK YOU YOU CALL IT HERE.
I CALL IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THAT IS IS GOING OUT TO THE STAFF AND SEEING WHAT THEY WANT, WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND HOW CAN WE REINVEST IN THEM? AND WE'VE HAD A FEW, A FEW STAFF, EVEN RPNS WANTING TO BE RNS AND PSWS WANTING TO BE RPNS AND MAYBE A FRONTLINE STAFF SAYING I'D LIKE TO BE A TSW AND RPN CAN'T AFFORD IT.
CAN YOU HELP ME? SO IT'S GREAT BECAUSE AS A RETURN OF SERVICE, WE HELP THEM A LITTLE BIT AND THEY'RE GUARANTEED TO BE WITH US FOR THREE TO MAYBE FOUR.
AND THEN MAYBE EVEN FIVE YEARS, IF WE'RE IF WE'RE IF THEY'RE WILLING TO, THEY WANT MORE MONEY AND WE WANT A BIGGER RETURN.
SO THE ANSWER IS YES, WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING THAT TOGETHER AND STARTING THAT AS WE SPEAK.
IT'S INTERESTING WE HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT BECAUSE EVERYONE IS COMING AT US NOW.
THEY'RE THEY'RE INTERESTED, BUT IT IS.
IT HAS TO BE PER NEED AND HOW MUCH WE CAN FUND, OF COURSE.
BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE UNDERTAKING AND I REALLY LOVE THAT APPROACH.
IT SHOWS THAT YOU CARE, YOU'RE INVESTING IN YOUR STAFF.
AND I DON'T THINK WHEN I FIRST BROUGHT THAT UP, EVERYBODY WAS ON BOARD.
BUT I THINK NOW I THINK MOST OF THE ORGANIZATION REALIZES THAT IT MAKES SENSE AND IT CREATES THAT REVOLVING DOOR TOO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE DO JUST THIS YEAR.
EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT NOT FIVE, NOT 10, 20 YEARS, YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT'S SO YOU'RE CONTINUALLY SO WE'LL BE 10 YEARS FROM NOW SAYING, MY GOODNESS, WE DON'T HAVE A SHORTAGE BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT REVOLVING DOOR OF RETURN OF SERVICE FROM FROM THE FROM THE STAFF AND ALSO FROM THE LOCAL STAFF, THE LOCAL PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT MAY BE INTERESTED IN THIS PROGRAM.
I GUESS COUNCILLOR CYR HAS A QUESTION NOW [INAUDIBLE] MR. COUNCILLOR CYR.
JUST A QUESTION, AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S APPROPRIATE OR NOT TO ANSWER THE FOR THE OAKS.
HOW MANY ROUGHLY PATIENTS ARE BEING TREATED THERE AT ANY ONE TIME? IS THERE ANY VALUE IN CONSIDERING REPURPOSING THE BUILDING FOR LONG TERM CARE? OR I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST AS SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT REALLY INVOLVED IN IT, I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.
SO OUR BUILDING, IN FACT, DOES NOT HAVE A LOT, A LOT OF CAPACITY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF COVID.
THEY'VE RAMPED US DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAVE A SMALL AMOUNT OF CAPACITY.
BUT WHAT THE INTERESTING THING IS, WE SERVE SUCH A LARGE AREA WHEN IT COMES TO SERVICES.
IN FACT, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PROPOSAL WITH THE MINISTRY TO GET ADDITIONAL BEDS AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO WHO TO US BECAUSE THIS IS IT IN THIS CORRIDOR.
THIS IS THE ONLY SERVICE AND WE'RE HEARING IS THAT THE QUALITY IS THERE AND THE PEOPLE FROM SOUTHERN ONTARIO WHO DON'T WANT TO BE SERVED IN THIS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY SENSITIVE ISSUE.
THEY DON'T WANT TO BE SERVED IN THE AREA WHERE THEY KNOW PEOPLE.
THEY RATHER COME TO ELLIOT LAKE WHERE THEY DON'T KNOW ANYBODY.
SO WE'RE GETTING PEOPLE FROM SOUTHERN ONTARIO, QUEBEC, ALL ACROSS CANADA.
BUT NOW, BECAUSE OF COVID, WE CAN ONLY DO HALF OF THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE BECAUSE OF SOCIAL DISTANCING.
SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REPURPOSE THIS FOR THAT.
BUT THERE IS OPPORTUNITIES TO REPURPOSE IT AND BRING MORE OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH PARTNERS ON ONE SITE, WHERE WE WOULD.
WHERE WE WOULD DO, HOWEVER, IS ON OUR LAND.
HERE WE HAVE AN ARCHITECT WORKING ON OUR CURRENT SITE WHERE WE COULD ACTUALLY EXPAND AND CREATE 32 MORE BEDS HERE RIGHT ON THIS SITE.
BUT IT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION BECAUSE IN THE FUTURE, I'M OPEN TO IT TOO.
YOU KNOW, IF WE RUN OUT OF SPACE, WE WE HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION THERE.
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MAYBE THE I DON'T MAYBE THE PARKING LOT COULD BE USED DIFFERENTLY OR I DON'T KNOW, BUT AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T HAVE CAPACITY THERE.LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.
SEEING NONE AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN THE FUTURE.
[3. DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST (Part 2 of 2)]
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.AFTER A LOT OF CONSIDERATION, I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE THINKING ABOUT THIS DURING A VERY IMPORTANT PRESENTATION, BUT ITEM TWELVE POINT ONE REFERS TO A CASE BEFORE THE COURTS, WHICH I'M INVOLVED IN.
AS YOU KNOW, MR. PATRIE IS ALSO INVOLVED IN A COURT CASE.
I THINK OUT OF PRUDENCE, IT WOULD BE BEST IF I DECLARED A CONFLICT ON THAT ISSUE.
ABSOLUTELY GREAT PRESENTATION, I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THEM BACK AND GIVING US UPDATES IN THE FUTURE.
SIX INTRODUCTION CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS.
[6. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS]
SIX POINT ONE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES, RE: DESIGNATED COMMUNITY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, CEMC, AND THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES DATED SEPTEMBER 22, 2021 BE RECEIVED.THAT COUNCIL PASS A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING JORDAN [INAUDIBLE] AS COMMUNITY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, WHILE SARAH ROBB IS ON TEMPORARY LEAVE AS HE WAS THE SUCCESSFUL APPLICANT FOR THE POSITION OF TEMPORARY CEMC ASSISTANT TO THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES, AND THAT THE OFFICE OF THE FIRE MARSHAL AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT BE ADVISED OF MR. [INAUDIBLE]'S APPOINTMENT IN ORDER THAT HE BE PROVIDED ACCESS TO TRAINING AND RECEIVE ONGOING ADVICE AND ASSISTANCE FOR ALL ASPECTS OF [INAUDIBLE].
MOVED BY COUNCILLOR CYR SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING, CHIEF THOMAS, HOW ARE YOU? VERY GOOD, YOUR WORSHIP.
TONIGHT, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CIVIL PROTECTION ACT [INAUDIBLE] 1990, WHICH REQUIRES THE MUNICIPALITY TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT MANDATORY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS IN CONFORMITY WITH THE REGULATIONS DEVELOPED BY THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OF ONTARIO.
COLLECTIVELY, THESE SUCH A REQUIREMENTS MANDATE HOW MUNICIPALITIES MUST PREPARE FOR AND RESPOND TO EMERGENCY SITUATIONS OCCURRING WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION.
SECTIONS 10, BRACKETS ONE OF THE ONTARIO REGULATION 308/04 STANDARD STATES THAT EVERY MUNICIPALITY SHALL DESIGNATE AN EMPLOYEE OF THE MUNICIPALITY OR A MEMBER OF COUNCIL AS ITS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM COORDINATOR.
SUB THE DUTIES OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR ARE THE EXCUSE ME, BUT THE EMERGENCY PLAN, CONTACT NAMES, TELEPHONE NUMBERS ARE UP TO DATE, THE AVAILABILITY OF STAFF WITH EMERGENCY RESPONSE DUTIES, THAT GUIDELINES ARE IN PLACE.
EMERGENCY ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE CURRENT AND COMPLETE.
PUBLIC EDUCATION, PLANNING OF THE ANNUAL MANDATORY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TRAINING AND EXERCISE.
ANNUAL REVIEW OF THE HAZARDOUS IDENTIFICATION RISK ASSESSMENT.
THE ANNUAL REVIEW OF THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE ANNUAL COMPLIANCE REPORT SUBMISSION TO THE OFFICE OF THE FIRE MARSHAL AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
IN SUMMARY, THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES RECOMMENDS COUNCIL PASS A RESOLUTION TO DESIGNATE MR. JORDAN [INAUDIBLE] AS THE COMMUNITY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY.
EXCUSE ME FOR THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE.
MR. [INAUDIBLE] WAS HE'S BEEN WITH US NOW FOR APPROXIMATELY THREE WEEKS AND HAS ALREADY STARTED THE TRAINING AND IS FITTING IN VERY WELL.
PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, AND I DO BELIEVE MR. [INAUDIBLE] IS GOING TO BE SETTING UP OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM MEETING THIS THURSDAY.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
COUNCILLOR PATRIE THEN COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU, IF I MAY.
I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN THIS POSITION, IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT JOB.
ITEMS IN THE ANALYSIS IS QUITE LENGTHY AND QUITE DETAILED.
UNDER FINANCIAL IMPACT, IT SAYS THERE'S NONE APPLICABLE BUT THERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF TRAINING THAT IS REQUIRED.
HOW DO WE COVER THOSE COSTS? I WOULD ASSUME THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME COST FOR THIS TRAINING TO BRING SOMEBODY UP TO THIS.
HIGH LEVEL OF STANDARD THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED FOR THEM.
THROUGH YOUR WORSHIP, SO FOR MR. [INAUDIBLE] TO GET HIS ACTUAL CERTIFICATION, THE COST IS NOT THAT MUCH.
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HOPEFULLY, WE CAN HAVE IT DONE FAIRLY CLOSE OR ONLINE IF HE DOES HAVE TO TRAVEL DOWN SOUTH.IT WILL TAKE IT WILL COST A LITTLE BIT MORE.
HE HAD ONE YEAR TO COMPLETE TO GET HIS DESIGNATION, SO I DON'T SEE TOO TOO MUCH OF A FINANCIAL IMPACT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A TRAINING BUDGET, WHICH HE WILL, THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL FOR 2021 AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER ONE FOR 2022 THAT HE WILL BE ABLE JUST TO GO INTO THERE AND PAY FOR ALL THIS TRAINING.
SO THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANYTHING EXTRA FOR THE MUNICIPALITY FOR HIM TO GET HIS CERTIFICATION.
FOLLOW UP COUNCILLOR PATRIE, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, SO JUST FOR CLARITY, SO THERE ARE COSTS INVOLVED BECAUSE IT IS A CONCERN WASN'T GOING TO BE SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH, BUT YOU CAN COVER THAT WITHIN YOUR CURRENT BUDGET, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I'M JUST WONDERING, BECAUSE IT'S A TEMPORARY POSITION, IF IT MIGHT BE MORE PRUDENT TO HAVE SOMEBODY ALREADY ON THE COMMUNITY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GROUP TO ASSUME THAT ROLE THAT ALREADY HAS THE TRAINING, IF IT'S GOING TO TAKE HIM UP TO A YEAR TO TRAIN, HE'S TEMPORARILY ONLY HERE FOR THAT PERIOD.
I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG HE'S HERE FOR, BUT I'M ASSUMING IT'S A YEAR OR 18 MONTHS.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT MIGHT BE MORE PRUDENT TO MAKE HIM AN ALTERNATE AND MAKE SOMEONE ELSE WHO ALREADY HAS THE TRAINING AS BEING THE COORDINATOR.
THROUGH YOU YOU WORSHIP, SO MR. [INAUDIBLE] SAID HE'S ALREADY STARTED THE TRAINING YOU HAVE UP TO A YEAR, BUT MR. [INAUDIBLE] HAS BEEN CATCHING ON VERY FAST, SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE MUCH LESS THAN A YEAR.
ALSO, PART OF HIS DUTIES WILL BE IS MY MY ASSISTANT TO HELP ME OUT AROUND THE STATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S KIND OF NICE TO HAVE THE CEMC WORKING RIGHT OUT OF THE STATION WHERE DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE ONTARIO FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AND THEN FOR THE PUBLIC IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.
IT'S JUST IT'S MORE CONVENIENT THAT WAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? OK, WE HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED, I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE.
OK, I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED THANK YOU.
6.2 REPORT OF THE SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER AWARDING TENDER FOR NEW DEHUMIDIFIER FOR MUNICIPAL POOL.
RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF REPORT DATED SEPTEMBER 15, 2021 FROM THE SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER BE RECEIVED AND THAT THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH [INAUDIBLE] FOR SUPPLY AND INSTALLATION OF DEHUMIDIFIER FOR THE POOL IN THE AMOUNT THREE HUNDRED AND NINETY THREE THOUSAND THREE SEVENTY FIVE NINETY SIX.
THAT COUNCIL APPROVE AN ADDITIONAL EIGHTY EIGHT THOUSAND THREE SEVENTY FIVE NINETY SIX FROM THE FACILITIES RESERVE.
BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR CYR.
MR. ANTUNES, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.
HELLO YOUR WORSHIP, GOOD EVENING, GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AS ALWAYS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT.
PRESENTING THIS ON BEHALF PARTIALLY OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ONLY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE GRANT APPLICATION, SOME OF THE EXTRA NUMBERS INVOLVED.
I TOOK THE LEAD IN PREPARING THE REPORT FOR BUDGET OR FOR COUNCIL.
EXCUSE ME, COUNCIL APPROVED THREE HUNDRED AND FIVE THOUSAND FOR THE 2021 BUDGET FOR THE DEHUMIDIFIER, FOR THE MUNICIPAL POOL AS COUNCIL.
ALL THOSE WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL.
THE STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO APPLY FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] FUNDING TO UPGRADE ALL THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT AT THE POOL, WHICH INCLUDED THE DEHUMIDIFIER.
ONCE THE APPLICATION WENT INTO PROCESS.
AND WE WERE ASSIGNED A CASE NUMBER, WE WERE THEN ABLE TO BEGIN SPENDING MONEY WITH NO GUARANTEE OF IT BEING APPROVED, BUT ONCE WE RECEIVED A CASE NUMBER, ITEMS COULD BE PURCHASED AND THEN APPLIED TO THAT THAT GRANT.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO BEGIN OCCURRING COST THAT MAY BE COVERED.
BUT AS I SAID, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY WILL BE COVERED AS COUNCIL DIRECTIONS.
DIRECTION WAS TO PURCHASE THE DEHUMIDIFIER REGARDLESS OF GRANT SUCCESS.
WE WENT ISSUED AN RFP FOR THE EQUIPMENT AND LABOR, SO STAFF PUT OUT A TENDER FOR THE NEW UNIT IN AUGUST.
ONCE WE DID RECEIVE THAT SECOND CASE, OR EXCUSE ME THAT SECOND PHASE AND THE CASE NUMBER TOOK A LITTLE BIT TO GET THAT TO US, BUT WE DID HAVE THREE RESPONSES BACK.
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ALL SUPPLIERS HAVE QUOTED THESE SAME HARDWARE.THE SUCCESSFUL BIDDER, THE LOWEST BIDDER, WAS [INAUDIBLE] AT THREE HUNDRED AND NINETY THREE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS AND NINETY SIX CENTS.
THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY AN INCREASE IN COST MATERIALS AND LABOR THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC FOR EVERYTHING, BUT THEY DID HAVE A [INAUDIBLE] AVAILABILITY WHICH LEFT A DELTA OF EIGHTY EIGHT THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS AND 96 CENTS BETWEEN WHAT WAS BUDGETED AND WHAT THE FINAL QUOTE CAME IN AT.
THAT BEING SAID, IF THE GRANT IS SUCCESSFUL, SORRY, I'LL TAKE A QUICK STEP BACK.
WHEN WE DID PUT THE THE GRANT REQUEST IN, WE DID REQUEST A COST OF THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND WITH THE 10 PERCENT COST FOR INSTALLATION PLUS A 20 PERCENT CONTINGENCY.
SO REALLY, THE [INAUDIBLE] WAS PREPARED WAS QUOTED FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND FOUR.
SO WE WENT ON THE HIGH SIDE TO TO COVER OUR BASES.
SO SHOULD THE GRANTS BE SUCCESSFUL AT A 75 CENT GRANT DOLLAR, THE COST TO MUNICIPALITY FOR THIS DEHUMIDIFIER WILL ONLY BE NINETY EIGHT THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY THREE DOLLARS AND NINETY NINE CENTS, SO WELL UNDER THE THREE NINETY THREE THREE SEVENTY FIVE.
SO THE THE CONTRACT IS UP LATER ON AS A BYLAW TO BE SIGNED AND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING THIS IN PLACE.
SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES, COUNCILLOR MANN.
THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. ANTUNES.
IS THIS A CONTRACTOR THAT THE MUNICIPALITY HAS USED IN THE PAST FOR ANY SPECIFIC WORK? I'M GLAD HIS FACE JUST POPPED UP BECAUSE I WAS ABOUT TO ASK MR. HALLOCH IF HE IF HE KNEW THAT.
YEAH, I KNOW AT THIS POINT I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I DON'T RECOGNIZE THE NAME, BUT THEN AGAIN, DEALING WITH A LOT OF THEM, LIKE WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH A LOT OF THE COMPANIES WHEN IT COMES TO A LOT OF THE METAL FABRICATION AND STUFF OUT OF SUDBURY, SUE ST.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIALIZED.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE UNITS, MOST OF THE COMPANIES ARE FROM AREAS OF DOWN SOUTH.
VERIFICATION, SO YES, WE HAVE BEEN APPROVED PHASE TWO, WHICH MEANS WE'RE ELIGIBLE TO SUBMIT COSTS FOR ANYTHING THAT WE SPEND THE THREE NINETY THREE INCLUDES.
DO WE NEED TO REQUEST THE TOP UP TO GET TO THE NUMBERS TO STAY WITHIN THE FOUR FIFTY FIVE AT SEVENTY FIVE CENT? OR ARE WE JUST.
JUST FOR CLARITY, THAT'S ALL BECAUSE WE'RE ELIGIBLE FOR FOUR FIFTY FIVE, IF WE'RE APPROVED OR SEVENTY FIVE CENT OF FOUR FIFTY FIVE.
CORRECT? THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP COUNCILLOR PATRIE FROZE THERE A BIT AT THE END.
I THINK I GOT THE GIST OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
WE DON'T NEED TO TOP UP, I ACTUALLY GUESSTIMATED HIGH.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE RECEIPTS, SO WE ASK FOR FOUR FIFTY FIVE.
WE'RE GOING TO COME IN AT THREE NINETY THREE THREE SEVENTY FIVE.
SO IT'S ALWAYS MUCH EASIER TO ASK FOR MORE AND THEN SUBMIT A LOWER BILL THAN THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
THEY WON'T TOP US UP THAT WAY, SO WE DON'T NEED TO TOP UP.
I DID ALREADY GUESSTIMATE ON THE HIGH SIDE FOR US.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? OK SEEING NONE, I'LL ROLL CALL, START WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
SIX POINT THREE MEMO FROM THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER RE: POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OF LAND FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OF LAND BY MUNICIPALITY MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION AS PER SECTION 239 2C OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT.
CAN I HAVE TO PUT THIS IN CLOSED, MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.
ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL.
STARTING COUNCILLOR FINAMORE AGAIN.
I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED TO CLOSE THANK YOU.
SIX POINT FOUR MEMO OF THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER RE: POTENTIAL DISPOSITION OF
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PROPERTY ON FOX DRIVE AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH THE DISPOSITION OF PROPERTY OWNED BY MUNICIPALITY MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION AS PER SECTION.I JUST, 239 2C OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT ALSO, CAN I HAVE A MOVE TO PUT THAT IN CLOSED SESSION ? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR CYR.
AGAIN, ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
SEEING NONE ROLL CALL COUNCILLOR TURNER.
I'M IN FAVOR THAT HAS MOVED TO CLOSED ALSO.
[7. PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS]
SEVEN PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS, SEVEN POINT ONE REFERRAL FROM THE FINANCE AND ADMIN COMMITTEE RE: FACILITY USERS PROGRAM LIABILITY INSURANCE COUNCILLOR MANN IF YOU WOULD.AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 20, 2021, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED, THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TREASURER REGARDING FACILITY USER PROGRAM BE RECEIVED AND THAT THE FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS TO COUNCIL TO AMEND BYLAW 21-03 USER FEE TO INCLUDE SCHEDULE C FACILITY USER RATING GUIDE $5 MILLION LIABILITY LIMIT.
IS A SECONDER, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COUNCILLOR MANN, OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAND IT OVER TO MS. SONNENBURG? NO, I WILL PROVIDE JUST A BRIEF UPDATE.
OBVIOUSLY, AS WE ARE ALL AWARE, BACK IN THE SUMMER, WE BEGAN DOWN A PROCESS OF TRYING TO MINIMIZE RISK FOR THE MUNICIPALITY.
AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION WITH OUR INSURERS AND THERE WAS A POTENTIAL AREA OF CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD REGARDING LIABILITY ASSUMED BY THE MUNICIPALITY IN OUR VENUES WHEN RENTED OUT.
OUR INSURANCE REQUIRES FOR THE USE OF MUNICIPAL FACILITIES.
GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCE IS RETAINED BY THE USER IN ORDER TO PROTECT FROM BODILY HARM, PHYSICAL INJURIES THROUGHOUT THE USE OF THE PREMISES.
OUR COVERAGE, OUR INSURANCE COVERS THE FACILITY.
HOWEVER, IT WOULD BE THE EVENT THAT WOULD BE COVERED.
CLEARLY, THIS IS AGAIN ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO NOT ADDITIONALLY TAX USERS, HOWEVER, TO ENSURE THAT ALL USERS ARE PROTECTED WHEN USING OUR FACILITIES AND THAT OUR POLICY AND OUR RISK IS DECREASED.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE UNFORTUNATE THINGS, HOWEVER, IT IS A NECESSARY MOVE FORWARD.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE SPECIFIC, AGAIN, IT'S IT'S RECOMMENDING UP TO A MAXIMUM OF $5 MILLION IN GENERAL LIABILITY COVERAGE, AS IS INDICATED IN THE REPORT AS WELL.
THIS MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT AN INDIVIDUAL COULD COULD PURCHASE ON THEIR OWN.
HOWEVER, THROUGH THE FINANCE STAFF, THERE IS NOW A MECHANISM IN PLACE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO CALL THE CITY, RENT ONE OF THE ONE OF OUR FACILITIES, AND THEN FOR A NOMINAL FEE, FIND OUT A RIDER WOULD BE ISSUED FROM THE MUNICIPALITY TACKED ON TO THE RENTAL COST.
AGAIN, ALL IN THE BACKGROUND PRIOR TO.
SO WE'RE NOT ELIMINATING THE USE OF OUR FACILITIES FOR RENTAL, BUT WE'RE ALLOWING INDIVIDUALS TO STILL USE THEM, BUT AS WELL BE PROTECTED IN THAT PROCESS.
IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, I WOULD THEN DEFER TO THE TREASURER.
COUNCILLOR PATRIE, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NOT A QUESTION.
[INAUDIBLE] WELL, BUT IN OUR RISK MANAGEMENT ASSESSMENT SO FAR, I THINK THIS WILL ACTUALLY MITIGATE RISK.
I WOULD PREFER TO ADOPT THIS POLICY TO ASSIST USERS INSTEAD OF NOT ALLOWING THEM TO BE RENTERS OF OUR FACILITIES FOR MEMBERS THAT CAN'T AFFORD AN ANNUAL [INAUDIBLE].
IN THE ROOF, BUT INSTEAD OF THEM HAVING TO BE ABLE TO OR THEM NOT BEING ABLE TO PUT A POLICY IN PLACE AND THEREFORE NOT BEING ABLE TO RENT OUR FACILITIES FOR A NOMINAL FEE, THEY CAN ACTUALLY STILL RENT OUR FACILITIES AND BE THE MUNICIPALITY WOULD BE PROTECTED SHOULD ANYTHING UNFORESEEN GO AWRY WHEN THEY'RE DOING THEIR EVENT OR WHICHEVER THE DAY.
I DIDN'T CATCH ALL OF IT BECAUSE YOU KEEP FREEZING UP.
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UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT SURE IF WE MISSED THE MAIN POINT THERE.I HOPE YOU DON'T FREEZE UP MORE.
SO I THINK THAT THIS POLICY IS ACTUALLY TO MITIGATE RISKS SO THAT WE CAN ADOPT THIS, THIS POLICY SO THAT USERS THAT CAN'T AFFORD THEIR OWN INSURANCE ON AN ANNUAL POLICY CAN ACTUALLY STILL USE OUR FACILITIES BASED ON OUR RISK, AM I FROZEN AGAIN ? NO.
I THINK IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO RENT OUR FACILITIES THAT DON'T CARRY THE $5 MILLION [INAUDIBLE] MANDATING.
JUST A SUGGESTION, COUNCILLOR PATRIE, IF YOU IF YOU CLOSE YOUR VIDEO FEED, YOU MIGHT GET SOME EXTRA BANDWIDTH.
OK, SO TO MITIGATE RISK, I'D PREFER THAT WE ADOPT THIS POLICY TO ASSIST USERS THAT CAN'T AFFORD THEIR OWN ANNUAL POLICY.
INSTEAD OF NOT ALLOWING THEM TO RENT OUR FACILITIES, IT ALLOWS THOSE PARTICIPANTS TO ACTUALLY STILL USE OUR FACILITIES AND NOT PUT THE MUNICIPALITY AT RISK.
I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD THING TO PUT INTO PLACE.
OK, THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PATRIE, THAT WORKED OUT PERFECT.
SO IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ABOUT THE POLICY? OK.
I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE THEN, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE.
SEVEN POINT TWO REFERRAL FROM PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE.
AFTER READING THIS, THIS SHOULD NOT BE ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA.
THIS WAS TO BE FORWARDED TO THE 2022 AD HOC BUDGET COMMITTEE, NOT TO COUNCIL, MS. BRAY.
WE HAD A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO WHICH I DON'T SYLVIE'S BEEN OFF RIGHT NOW, SO I COULDN'T CATCH UP WITH HER, BUT YEAH, I KNOW THAT IT ACTUALLY WAS AFTER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION TO GET IT PASSED AT COUNCIL BECAUSE IT'S TIME SENSITIVE FOR A DECISION.
MS. BRAY? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, SO MR. HALLOCH IS CORRECT, SO THERE WAS THE CORRECTED MOTION WAS PUT ON THAT I CAN READ FOR COUNCILLOR CYR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
OK, SO AT THE SEPTEMBER 20, 2021 MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THAT STAFF REPORT, DATED SEPTEMBER 13, 2021 THAT THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS RECEIVED AND THAT THE REPORT BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR PRE-APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CAPITAL ROAD PROJECT ON HILLSIDE DRIVE NORTH FROM HUTCHISON AVENUE TO HIGHWAY 108.
COUNCILLOR CYR, DO YOU SO MOVE? I SO MOVE.
OK, SECONDER PLEASE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR MANN, THANK YOU AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. HALLOCH TO CLARIFY US ON THE DETAILS.
WE'RE GOING TO GO A LITTLE FURTHER BACK WHERE MUNICIPALITIES WHERE BASICALLY THE GOVERNMENT WANTED A DOCUMENTED ASSET MANAGEMENT PLANS, WHICH IDENTIFIED ALL THE CITY'S ASSETS, INCLUDING LIFECYCLE COST OF REPLACEMENT, WHICH INCLUDED A LOT OF THE ROADS.
AND THEN WHAT WE DECIDED AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN 2015, COUNCILLOR CAME UP WITH THE FACT THAT KNOWING THE AGE OF THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE AND A LOT OF THE ROADS DECISION WAS MADE TO COME UP WITH A NATIONAL PRIORITY LIST OF ROADS AND THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR REPLACEMENT.
MOVING FORWARD, THE PROJECT STARTED IN 2016.
USING THE TOOL, THE OLD GRID TOOL.
WE WERE IDENTIFYING THE ROADS THROUGHOUT TOWN THAT WERE NEEDING REPLACEMENT FOR AGE AND FOR OTHER REASONS, AS WELL AS THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO THERE WAS ALSO INFORMATION BROUGHT BACK BROUGHT FORWARD FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SO KNOWING WHERE A LOT OF THE WATER COMPLAINTS WERE COMING FROM, KNOWING THE AGE OF THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL AS WATER MAIN BREAKS.
THE FIRST PROJECT IN THE ACTUAL OF THE OF THE PRIORITY WAS THE VALLEY HEMLOCK PROJECT.
SO THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT WENT THROUGH.
AND BASICALLY, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT JUST THE ROADS BEING REPLACED, WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF THE UPDATING OF THE LIGHTING SYSTEMS ALONG THE ROAD.
WE'RE TALKING REPLACEMENT OF STORM WATER, MAIN AND SANITARY PIPES.
AND OBVIOUSLY, THE REASONS FOR THIS IS IS WE KNOW THE AGES OF MOST OF THESE NOW ARE AROUND ANYWHERE FROM 50 TO 60 YEARS OLD, ESPECIALLY IN NEIGHBORHOOD ONE AROUND THE
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VALLEY HEMLOCK SPRUCE, LAKEVIEW PINE POPLAR AREA.SO THE FIRST PROJECT WAS COMPLETED.
IT WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS COMPLETED AND STARTED IN 2018 AND COMPLETED IN 2020.
MAJORITY OF THESE PROJECTS, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'RE LOOKING IN THE RANGE OF THAT PROJECT WAS COMPLETED FOR $4 MILLION.
MOVING FORWARD, WE WENT TO PROJECT NUMBER TWO, WHICH WAS THE PINE AND POPLAR PROJECT, WHICH CURRENTLY IS THE ASPHALT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
SO THE SAME THING DOWN ON PINE AND POPLAR PROJECT INVOLVED NOT ONLY THE ROAD, BUT THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE STORM WATER WASTEWATER ALL REPLACED.
THAT PROJECT AGAIN COMPLETED BOTH THOSE AND HAVING THE ROAD ON TOP.
ALL REPLACED WAS THE THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.
SO NOW MOVING FORWARD, WE'VE IDENTIFIED STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THE HILLSIDE NORTH ROAD HILLSIDE DRIVE NORTH.
WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM HIGHWAY 108 ALL THE WAY UP TO HUTCHINSON, THE INTERSECTION OF HUTCHINSON THAT WILL INCLUDE, OF COURSE, THE REPLACEMENT OF THE FAILING STORM SYSTEM UNDERNEATH.
AND THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS AS WITH THE PRICING, WE'RE LOOKING AT EITHER THE FULL REPLACEMENT OF WATER AND SANITARY OR WE WERE LOOKING AT LINING THE SANITARY THAT'S INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT AS WELL AND REPLACING ROAD FROM HUTCHISON DOWN TO HIGHWAY 108.
THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE CURB AND SIDEWALK, WHICH WE'VE IDENTIFIED TO BE A PROBLEM ALONG THE WHOLE WAY.
AND AS AS THE PUBLIC WOULD REALIZE, THEY KNOW EVERY WINTER THE THE NATURAL SPEED BUMPS THAT ALWAYS COME UP ONCE THE WEATHER STARTS TO COOL DOWN THE GROUND ABSORBS THE COLD, AND THAT'S WHAT'S SHIFTING EVERYTHING AROUND.
SO THE MOISTURE IN THE GROUND IS ACTUALLY WHAT'S MOVING EVERYTHING AROUND.
SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH PROJECTS LIKE THIS AND ADD THE PROPER MATERIAL UNDERNEATH AS WELL AS NEW TECHNOLOGY, NOW THERE IS THESE DAYS WITH GEO TECH MATS, AND IT'S EASIER TO DRAIN THE WATER AWAY FROM THESE AREAS FOR FUTURE.
SO THIS IS A VERY POPULAR AREA.
IT ALSO INCLUDES THE EMERGENCY SERVICES BUILDINGS REALLY CLOSE BY WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FIRE AND AMBULANCE TRAVELING THESE ROADS ON A DAILY BASIS, AS WELL AS THE CORRIDOR TO THE ACTUAL DOWNTOWN AREA.
THE CITY IS LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT AS THE THIRD PROJECT LINE, WHICH MEANS THAT IF APPROVED, WE START THE ENGINEERING THIS FALL, GET THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN AND HOPEFULLY PART OF THE TENDER COMPLETED.
THERE'S ALSO PERMITS AND APPROVALS THAT WE NEED AS WELL THAT WE'VE GOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A COST OF I KNOW THAT THE COST I DON'T WANT TO QUOTE THE COST OFF OF THIS BECAUSE AFTER GOING OVER THINGS AND LOOKING AT IT, THE PROJECTS LOOKING AT LIKE A $6 MILLION PROJECT.
SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, THAT THAT'S TAKING CARE OF A LOT OF MAJOR THINGS, BUT WE'RE LOOKING MORE OF THE LINING OF THE SANITARY BECAUSE WE'VE DONE SOME FURTHER INVESTIGATION FROM WHEN THE REPORT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
AND A LOT OF THE SANITARY IS IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE AND WITH THE ACTUAL WHILE STILL NOT IN THE BEST SHAPE, BUT WITH IT LINED, THE LINING OF IT ACTUALLY GIVES IT ANOTHER 50 YEARS WHEN YOU PUT THAT INTO THE ACTUAL PIPING SYSTEM.
AND WE ALSO FOUND OUT THE TRANSMISSION MAINLINE THAT'S GOING DOWN FROM THE WATER PLANT, WHICH IS AN 18 INCH.
LARGE LINE, IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE, SO IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE LINED OR REPLACED, SO IT COULD REMOVE THAT FROM THE PROJECT AS WELL.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TACKLING AT THE SAME TIME, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY AND WHAT PROJECTS ARE WE'RE FUNDING BECAUSE WE'VE APPLIED FOR A FEW MORE.
THE OTHER THING WE WOULD LIKE TO DO AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY THROUGH THE CAPITAL BUDGET PROCESS AS WELL, IS IF THERE'S OTHER STREETS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE LOOKING AT REPLACING THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS OR 15 YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT DOING THE TOPS OF THEM, DEPENDING ON THE SHAPE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO START TO BUDGET IN THAT WAY AS WELL.
SO WE'RE GETTING PRICING FOR THAT AS WELL AND THAT WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE CAPITAL BUDGET PROCESS.
SO RIGHT NOW, STAFF'S JUST LOOKING FOR COUNCIL TO GIVE DIRECTION AND APPROVE THIS SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND START WITH THE ENGINEERING.
AND IF THERE WAS ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
OTHER THAN THE PRICE TAG, IT'S ALL VERY, VERY EXCITING.
START QUESTIONS WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. HALLOCH.
I THINK THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP, WE NEED TO TAKE FORWARD.
BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF OUR MAIN ARTERIES THROUGH OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES, TO OUR DOWNTOWN, TO OUR HOSPITAL THAT I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PLANNED BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ALTERNATIVE ROUTES THAT ARE MAYBE OTHER PLACES FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO PARK DURING PARTS OF THIS.
I UNDERSTAND FROM THE MEETING THE OTHER DAY THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT THIS COULD TAKE TWO YEARS, WHICH I APPRECIATE YOUR HONESTY AND THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUST HOPE FOR THE BEST.
AND BUT I THINK THAT IF IT'S DONE SOONER THAN THAT, THAT'S WONDERFUL.
BUT I THINK THAT TO LET THE CITIZENS KNOW THAT THIS IS A LONG PROJECT.
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SO IT MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT WE DO IT ALL FROM HUTCHISON RIGHT THROUGH TO THE HIGHWAY INSTEAD OF DOING PART OF IT AND MAYBE END UP BEING FOUR YEARS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO THE BOTTOM PART AND THEN THE TOP PART, I THINK THAT IT SHOULD ALL BE DONE TOGETHER.AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT IT'S THAT MUCH MONEY, BUT FROM WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT YOU'RE DOING A MUCH DEEPER DELVE INTO WHAT'S UNDERNEATH THERE.
SO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE FACING.
SO WE AREN'T WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER VALLEY HEMLOCK SITUATION WHERE THERE WAS UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS NOT ABLE TO BE WORKED ON AND WHICH ENDED UP BRINGING THE BUDGET UP TO THE FOUR MILLION.
IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE WAS ADDITIONAL EXPENSES.
SO I'M I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS DONE AND THAT IT NOT BE DONE IN A CATASTROPHIC SITUATION WHEN SOMETHING FAILS, THAT THIS IS A MAIN ARTERY AND NEEDS TO BE PLANNED TO BE DONE.
SO I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE DONE SOONER THAN LATER.
AND I JUST WANT TO ECHO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE IS THAT IT IS TRUE THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THIS IS THE THIRD PROJECT DEADLINE AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF LESSONS LEARNED.
AND ONE OF THEM IS THE IMPORTANCE OF GEO TECH AHEAD OF TIME AND DRILLING INTO THE ROAD TO KNOW WHAT WE HAVE A GOOD SAMPLE OF WHAT IS BELOW.
AND THAT IS WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF BEDROCK IN THIS CITY AND AND A LOT OF THE REGULATIONS HAVE CHANGED TOO WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE GOT AWAY WITH PUTTING A PIPE OVER A PIPE BACK IN THE DAY IT'S NO LONGER THAT WAY.
SO THAT'S WHERE THAT ROCK WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE THOSE PROPER DISTANCES BETWEEN THE SANITARY LINE AND A WATER LINE AND MORE THAN A VERTICAL.
SO THAT'S WHERE THINGS CHANGE, AND WE'VE LEARNED LESSONS ALONG THE WAY.
AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'RE FIGURING OUT ALL THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE WAYS.
THE OTHER THING TOO, WE'RE LOOKING INTO IS, YES, THIS IS A TWO YEAR PROJECT WHICH COULD PUSH ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT BECAUSE OF THE SIZE.
BUT ONE THING WE'RE PUTTING IN THE TENDER NOW, AND I KNOW MAYOR MARCHISELLA HAS BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE TOO, IS THE FACT THAT IN OUR TENDER, WE'RE JUST GOING TO LESSEN OUR TIMELINE AND PUT IT OUT FIRST TO SEE IF WE SOME OF THESE THE CONTRACTORS BIDDING ARE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE MORE STAFF ON AND THEN PUSH THESE PROJECTS TO GET DONE A LITTLE QUICKER.
SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE THING THAT I'M LEARNING ALONG THE WAY, TOO, IS WHAT WHAT WE COULD PUSH FOR.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO TRY THIS YEAR ON THE TENDER PROCESS.
HOPEFULLY, I DON'T FREEZE, OR MAYBE I'LL HAVE TO TURN MY CAMERA BACK OFF.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT MR. HALLOCH HAS PUT INTO HERE, AND I HAD ASKED WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SURFACE TREATMENTS OF OTHER AVENUES IN THE BUDGET AS WELL, WHICH I'M GLAD THAT HE'S BROUGHT BACK UP.
YES, I AGREE THAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS AND WE'VE GOT TO DO IT SOON.
THAT IS A VERY DIRE AREA IN OUR MUNICIPALITY.
BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT SIX MILLION, EVEN AS A LOWER END COST TO BUDGET THAT INTO A ONE YEAR CYCLE, I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT WHEN WE GET TO BUDGET THAT WE BUDGETED, IF IT'S GOING TO BE A TWO YEAR PROJECT, WE BUDGET INTO OUR TWO YEARS OF CAPITAL.
THERE'S TWO YEARS WORTH OF FUNDING THAT IS ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE REPORT, WHICH BRINGS IT DOWN TO FOUR MILLION.
BUT TO ADD $4 MILLION TO OUR WATER AND TAXES IN THE ONE YEAR CYCLE, I THINK IS DETRIMENTAL TO A LOT OF OUR MEMBERS OF OUR MUNICIPALITY.
SO THAT'S MY ONLY ISSUE AS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BUDGET IT AS NOT ONE MAJOR HIT IN ONE YEAR.
I THINK WE DO HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT AWAY.
AND I DO TRUST THAT STAFF WILL APPLY FOR FUNDING AS WELL, AND WE MAY EVEN GET SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY ON THIS TO AS WELL ENHANCE OUR BUDGET CAPABILITY IN MOVING FORWARD.
JUST FOR AN OUTLINE OF THAT, TOO, AS WELL.
THERE IS ALWAYS FUNDING LIKE MUNICIPALITIES THAT RECEIVE OSHA FUNDING AS WELL AS FEDERAL GAS TAX MONEY THAT GOES TOWARDS PROJECTS LIKE THIS AND THE CITY DOES THAT EVERY YEAR THAT WE APPLY TOWARDS THESE PROJECTS.
WE ARE WORKING ON UPDATING OUR RATE STUDY, WHICH COMES OUT OF THE WATER WASTEWATER FIELD.
AND JUST SO PEOPLE REALIZE THAT IT'S NOT JUST STUFF THAT'S REPLACED IN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER FIELD AND WORKING AT THE TREATMENT CENTER, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO REALIZE THAT THAT MONEY IN THAT RESERVE GOES TOWARDS ALL THIS UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH AS YOU SEE THE REPORTS THAT ARE BROUGHT FORWARD TO COUNCIL IN THE FINANCIAL SECTION, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT CHEAP, WITH THE REPLACEMENT OF THAT STUFF UNDERNEATH.
BUT WE DEFINITELY TAKE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR ANY FUNDING THAT WE PUT TOWARDS THESE PROJECTS.
I APPRECIATE HILLSIDE'S ONE OF OUR ARTERIAL ROADS AND AS PRIORITY,
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BUT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT SOME OF THE THE OTHER ROADS MAPLE.COULD BE A PROVING GROUND FOR TANKS.
WHERE WHERE ARE THESE OTHER ROADS ON THE ON THE LIST IF WOULDN'T MIND? SO JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE I'M WORKING WITH THE RATE STUDY RIGHT NOW, AS I WAS MENTIONING EARLIER, WHICH BRINGS IN A LIST OF I'VE GOT THE NEXT 10 PROJECTS IN THE LINE UP TO 2030.
AND BOTH OF THOSE ROADS ARE ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED IN THAT 10 YEAR PERIOD.
SO ROMAN AND WILLOUGHBY IS ON THERE, AS WELL AS MAPLE AND OAK AS A PROJECT TOGETHER.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WE COULD PROBABLY CHOOSE FROM.
I KNOW THE PUBLIC WILL COME BACK AS WELL AND LET US KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT THAT NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED AS WELL.
BUT ONE THING THEY'VE GOT TO REALIZE IS IS THE TEMPERATURES WE HAVE UP HERE IN THE REALLY COLD WINTERS ON HOW FAR DOWN THAT THAT FROST DROPS IS WHAT CAUSES A LOT OF THIS TO TO HAPPEN.
BUT THAT'S THE OTHER REASON WHY THAT WE'RE HOPING WE COULD TACKLE SOME OF THE THE ROADS LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD AND JUST DO THE SURFACES ON THOSE FOR A MUCH CHEAPER PRICE UNTIL WE CAN GET TO THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE.
BUT DEFINITELY MAPLE AND OAK AND ROMAN AS WELL ARE ON THAT 10 YEAR PLAN COMING UP WITHIN THE NEXT, I BELIEVE, THREE YEARS WHEN IT TAKES EVERY TWO YEARS, THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY THING.
IT'S CHANGING THE SCOPE OF IT, BUT THEY'RE WITHIN THE NEXT.
I BELIEVE IT'S FOUR YEARS AND THEN SIX THE ONE AFTER THAT.
THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU, I JUST IF I MAY MR. HALLOCH.
ONE OF THE MY CONCERNS IS WE HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS ON THE ON THE BOARDS GOING FORWARD.
HAVE WE GOT THE RESOURCES, HAVE WE GOT THE MANPOWER TO GET THIS DONE? I'M.
YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, A BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
IF YOU COULD REASSURE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT WE, WE DO HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO THIS AND I'M I MEAN, I BELIEVE VERY FIRMLY WE HAVE TO GET THIS DONE AND DONE QUICKLY.
I'M TERRIFIED SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN FRONT OF THAT FIRE STATION ONE OF THESE DAYS.
SO, YEAH, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE'RE WORKING WITH.
OF COURSE, CAO, DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.
WE'VE JUST BEEN APPROVED FOR FUNDING TO UPDATE OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH IDENTIFIES ALL OF OUR ASSETS, AS WELL AS I WAS MENTIONING EARLIER, THE LIFE CYCLE AND THE COST OF REPLACEMENT.
SO THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE UPDATED AS WELL AS OUR RATE STUDY WITH THE WATER WASTEWATER GOES FOR MANY YEARS AND THIS IDENTIFIES ALL THE COSTS.
I WAS JUST WORKING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CONTRACTOR WORKING ON THE ACTUAL RATE STUDY, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW FAR ALONG BEFORE WE LOOK AT THE RESERVE.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE'VE IDENTIFIED AND HAD OUR MEETING WITH COUNCIL ABOUT RESERVES AND HOW WE HOW WE FUND THEM PROPERLY.
AND WE'VE MADE THE DECISIONS AND WE'RE LOOKING HEALTHY FOR THE LIKE I SAID FROM WHAT I'M SEEING SO FAR FOR THE NEXT FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO REASSESS AND PUSH THESE TO A LONGER, A LONGER PERIOD AND START TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO FINANCE AFTER THAT.
OF COURSE, WE NEVER TAKE FUNDING AND ALL THE REST OF THOSE INTO THE MIND WHEN WE'RE DOING THAT BECAUSE YOU EXPECT THAT YOU JUST DON'T GET IT.
AND THEN IF THE FUNDING COMES IN WHICH WE'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF FUNDING APPS APPROVED LATELY, THAT HELPS OUT TREMENDOUSLY WITH THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
BUT MOVING FORWARD FOR AT LEAST THE PLAN THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW UP TO 2030, WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE FOR THAT, AS WELL AS AS LONG AS WE KEEP FUNDING THOSE RESERVES PROPERLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? SEEING NONE.
THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. HALLOCH, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR CLEAR DESCRIPTION.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE I'D LOVE TO SEE FUTURE TOWN HALL MEETING JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF EDUCATING THE PUBLIC AND ANY OF THOSE WHO PLAN ON RUNNING FOR COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE, SO THEY GET A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHO THE FUNDING PARTNERS ARE.
THE FACT SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TERM CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED YEARS AGO, PROBABLY A SECOND YEAR I WAS ON COUNCIL AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SHAVE AND PAVES OR RATE FOR THE ROADS THAT ARE JUST MEETING SURFACE TREATMENT.
BUT IT'S THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT NEED THE UNDERGROUND CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACED AND HILLSIDE.
WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING HERE, AND I KNOW YOU ACTUALLY SHUFFLED SOME OF THE STREETS AND BROUGHT HILLSIDE FOREFRONT BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT MASSIVE HEAVING IN THE WINTER, AND I'M PRETTY SURE AMBULANCES AND FIRE TRUCKS CAN GET AIRBORNE OFF SOME OF THOSE BUMPS, WHICH GETS PRETTY DANGEROUS.
BUT I ALSO RECALL A FEW YEARS BACK HAVING SINKHOLES DEVELOPING RIGHT IN FRONT OF CITY HALL DUE TO SOME OF THAT UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE COLLAPSING A BIT AND AS AN EMERGENCY TO
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TAKE CARE OF IT.SO I THINK YOU DID A GOOD JOB IN SHUFFLING THIS AROUND.
WE KNOW THAT ROMAN AND MAPLE AND THERE'S A FEW OTHER STREETS ARE ON THAT THE PLAN FOR FOLLOWING THIS ONE.
AND I'D LOVE TO SEE IT IN THE FUTURE AS A TOWN HALL MEETING JUST TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC.
MANY HAVE SAID WHY DOESN'T COUNCIL DEDICATE A WHOLE YEAR'S BUDGET TO DOING ALL THE ROADS IN TOWN? WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES OF THAT MR. HALLOCH? YEAH.
AS DEFINITE, DEFINITE DIFFERENT PURSES, DIFFERENT FUNDING ALLOCATIONS.
AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE HOW MANY CONTRACTORS CAN WE GET ON A JOB? I THINK YOU GRABBED EVERYONE YOU COULD FOR THE PINE POPULAR AREA THERE TO TRY AND GET THAT DONE BETWEEN SUDBURY SUE ST.
WE'RE NOT THE ONLY COMMUNITY DOING INFRASTRUCTURE, SO.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT REMIND PUBLIC OF TOO IS OUR CONSTRUCTION SEASONS A LOT SHORTER THAN DOWN SOUTH, AND WE DEAL WITH A LOT MORE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE, THINGS LIKE LIKE THE ROCK AND STUFF WHERE THEY'RE DEALING WITH CLAY AND SAND SO.
LIKE I SAID, I'D LOVE TO SEE THIS AS A PUBLIC EDUCATION IN THE FUTURE, FOR SURE.
AGAIN I'LL GET MS. BRAY TO READ OFF THE RESOLUTION AND BRING IT TO A VOTE, MS. BRAY IF YOU PLEASE.
THANK YOUR WORSHIP THAT THE STAFF REPORT DATED SEPTEMBER 13, 2021, THAT THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED AND THAT THE REPORT BE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL FOR PRE-APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CAPITAL ROAD PROJECT ON HILLSIDE DRIVE NORTH FROM HUTCHISON AVENUE TO HIGHWAY 108.
OK, OK, I'LL START ROLL CALL WITH COUNCILLOR MANN.
SEVEN POINT THREE REFERRAL FROM THE FINANCE AND ADMIN COMMITTEE 2021 UNAUDITED STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL POSITION.
AT THE SAME FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 20, 2021, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THAT THE MEMO OF THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TREASURER REGARDING THE AUGUST 2021 UNAUDITED STATEMENTS OF FINANCIAL POSITION BE RECEIVED AND FORWARDED TO COUNCIL FOR INFORMATION.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COUNCILLOR MANN IF YOU COULD.
TO THE END OF THE PERIOD IN QUESTION AUGUST 31ST YOUR WORSHIP, IT LOOKS LIKE A FORECAST AT PRESENT OF APPROXIMATELY FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE THOUSAND, CONTINUING TO BE MADE UP OF A GRANT RECEIVED FROM THE PROVINCE.
WATER AND WASTEWATER AGAIN IS UNDER UNDER BUDGET DUE TO SOME VACANCIES IN THE DEPARTMENT AND NO OTHER SIGNIFICANT ANOMALIES TRENDING TOWARDS THE FINAL QUARTER OF THE YEAR.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS I WOULD ASK, THEY BE DIRECTED TO THE TREASURER.
OK, THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? OK SEEING NO, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN, THANK YOU, MS. SONNENBURG.
ROLL CALL VOTE STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
AND I'M IN FAVOR, THAT'S CARRIED.
EIGHT OUTSIDE BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTED.
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EIGHT POINT ONE, A LETTER FROM THE CHAIR OF THE ELLIOT LAKE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION RE: DISSOLUTION OF THE ELLIOT LAKE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, PROPOSED MOTION IS ATTACHED.COUNCILLOR PEARCE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.
THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU SOME GUIDANCE HERE, PERHAPS FROM MS. BRAY, I MIGHT READ OFF THE PROPOSED MOTION FIRST OR DO YOU WANT THE LETTER FROM THE COUNCIL FIRST? THE MOTION FIRST MOVED AND SECONDED AND THEN DISCUSSION.
SO MOTION CONCERNING THE FUTURE OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, WHEREAS THE ELLIOT LAKE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED IN JUNE 2001 UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE ELLIOT LAKE ACT.
AND WHEREAS THE COMMISSION'S MANDATE IS TO PURCHASE AND DEVELOP CROWN LAND FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF WATERFRONT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, AND WHEREAS IT HAS BECOME MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT FOR THE COMMISSION TO FULFILL ITS MANDATE DUE TO A LACK OF AVAILABLE PROPERTY FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREAS DESIGNATED FOR SUCH DEVELOPMENT.
AND WHEREAS THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION ADVISED COUNCIL IN OCTOBER 2020 THAT
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THE COMMISSION HAD FULFILLED ITS MANDATE AND WAS NO LONGER ABLE TO PROCEED WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT BENEFITED THE ECONOMY OF THE CITY.IT'S HEREBY RESOLVED THAT COUNCIL DISSOLVES THE ELLIOT LAKE RESIDENTIAL COMMISSION, EFFECTIVE AS SOON AS LOGISTICALLY POSSIBLE.
IT'S FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE MONIES FROM THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION BE TRANSFERRED TO CITY RESERVES AND DESIGNATED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AS REQUIRED UNDER THE ELLIOT LAKE ACT OF 2001, AND I SO MOVE.
THANK YOU IS THERE A SECONDER? SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE.
I JUST I'D LIKE SOME CHANGES [INAUDIBLE], BUT I WOULD LIKE SOME CHANGES IN THE RESOLUTION THAT'S ALL.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COUNCILLOR PEARCE, IF YOU COULD PLEASE.
THE ELLIOT LAKE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2001 UNDER THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE ACT TO DEVELOP AND MARKET WATERFRONT PROPERTIES WITHIN THE NINE TOWNSHIPS AND MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY.
AS STATED IN THE ACT, THE OBJECT OF THE COMMISSION IS TO MANAGE AS THE CORPORATION'S AGENT THE DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES OF LAND ACQUIRED FROM THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF CARRYING OUT SUCH OBJECT OBJECT.
THE CORPORATION MAY, UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF A BYLAW PASSED BY THE COUNCIL DELEGATE TO THE COMMISSION.
ANY OF THE CORPORATION'S POWERS UNDER CLAUSE TWO, SUBSECTION TWO C, D AND E SUBJECT TO ANY CONDITIONS OR RESTRICTIONS SET OUT IN THE BYLAW.
THE COMMISSION SUCCESSFULLY DEVELOPED AND SOLD WATERFRONT PROPERTIES ON LAKES NORTH AND EAST OF THE CITY PROPER, WHICH CREATED EMPLOYMENT AND INCREASE THE TAX BASE OF THE CITY.
HOWEVER, OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, A NUMBER OF FACTORS HAVE MADE IT INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP NEW PROPERTIES, AND SINCE 2015, ONLY FIVE PROPERTIES ON DUNLOP LAKE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY DEVELOPED AND SOLD.
DURING THAT TIME, ACCESS TO POTENTIAL LAKE SITES HAS BEEN FURTHER REDUCED DUE TO RESTRICTIONS FROM MINING COMPANIES AND THE CNSC AND QUESTIONS REGARDING TRADITIONAL INDIGENOUS TERRITORIES.
AT THE SAME TIME, THE COMMISSION WAS CONTINUED WAS CONTINUING TO SPEND MONIES ON SURVEYS OF POTENTIAL LAKES, WATER SAMPLING OF EXISTING AND POTENTIAL LAKES, AS WELL AS MEETING THAT SOMETIMES ONEROUS CONDITIONS LAID DOWN BY M&RF.
THIS WAS SLOWLY DEPLETING THE FUNDS OF THE COMMISSION, AND SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE TO REVERSE THAT TREND.
IT ALSO BECAME APPARENT TO THE COMMISSION THAT THE BEST AREAS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF WATERFRONT PROPERTIES WAS WITHIN THE CITY PROPER AND ON LAND ALREADY OWNED BY THE CITY.
SINCE THIS IS OUTSIDE THE MANDATE OF THE COMMISSION, AS DETAILED IN THE ELLIOT LAKE ACT, THE COMMISSION FELT THAT THE MANDATE HAS BEEN FULFILLED AND IT'S TIME TO DISSOLVE THE COMMISSION.
SINCE THIS IS A DECISION THAT CAN ONLY BE MADE BY COUNCIL, THE REQUEST TO DISSOLVE WAS BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL IN OCTOBER OF 2020.
AT THE TIME, COUNCIL FELT THE NEED TO WEIGH ALL ITS OPTIONS AND DEFER THE DECISION UNTIL SUCH TIME AS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COULD BE PROVIDED.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE CITY LOANED THE COMMISSION $1 MILLION TO GET IT ESTABLISHED AS SEED FUNDS FROM THE MUNICIPAL COFFERS IN 2001.
THIS WAS A REQUIREMENT OF THE ACT DO NOT USE FUTURE TAX LEVY FUNDS FOR THE PROJECT [INAUDIBLE].
THE CORPORATION SHALL ESTABLISH A MAINTAIN A TRUST ACCOUNT FOR THE DEPOSIT OF THE PROCEEDS OF ALL TRANSACTIONS AUTHORIZED BY CLAUSE TWO, SUBSECTION TWO F AND SHALL DEPOSIT ALL THE MONEY PAID TO THE CORPORATION UNDER SUCH TRANSACTIONS INTO THE TRUST ACCOUNT.
THE TRUST ACCOUNT SHALL BE ADMINISTERED BY THE TREASURER OF THE CORPORATION AND SHALL BE AUDITED ANNUALLY BY THE AUDITOR APPOINTED BY THE CORPORATION UNDER THE MUNICIPAL ACT.
IF THE COMMISSION IS DEVOLVED, DISSOLVED THEN THE ORIGINAL SEED, MONEY FROM THE CITY WILL BE RETURNED.
AS STATED IN THE ACT PAYMENT OF CORPORATION EXPENSES, THE CORPORATION SHALL BE REIMBURSED OUT OF THE TRUST ACCOUNT FOR ALL EXPENSES IT INCURRED IN CARRYING OUT A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AUTHORIZED BY SECTION TWO.
SINCE THERE IS CURRENTLY APPROXIMATELY $2.8 MILLION IN THE COMMISSION'S ACCOUNT, THE $1 MILLION WILL BE REPAID UPON DISSOLUTION.
THIS LEAVES APPROXIMATELY 1.8 MILLION TO BE DISTRIBUTED.
THE ACT IS VERY SPECIFIC ON WHAT HAS TO BE DONE WITH THESE FUNDS.
NET PROCEEDS TRANSFERRED TO A SPECIAL ACCOUNT.
AFTER PAYMENT OF THE CORPORATION'S EXPENSES OF A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
THE CORPORATION SHALL TRANSFER THE NET PROCEEDS FROM THE PROJECT, FROM THE TRUST ACCOUNT TO A SPECIAL ACCOUNT ESTABLISHED BY THE CORPORATION.
RESTRICTIONS ON USES FOR THE NET PROCEEDS INCLUDE THE MONEY AND A SPECIAL ACCOUNT MAY BE USED SOLELY FOR THE FOLLOWING PURPOSES.
TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL OR OTHER ASSISTANCE TO COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS INCORPORATED UNDER SECTION ONE TWELVE POINT ONE OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT.
TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL OR OTHER ASSISTANCE TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS INCORPORATED UNDER SECTIONS ONE TWELVE POINT TWO OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT AND TO MAKE
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GRANTS UNDER SECTION 113 OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT.SINCE THERE ARE NO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS AS PER SECTIONS ONE TWELVE POINT TWO OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT, I SUGGEST IT WILL BE INCUMBENT ON THE CITY TO MAKE GRANTS TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT WILL BENEFIT THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.
WHAT IS DEFINED AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, I WILL LEAVE TO COUNCIL.
OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY TO MAKE THE ELRDC A SUCCESS.
COMMISSION MEMBERS AND STAFF HAVE CONTRIBUTED GREATLY TO OUR COMMUNITY'S ECONOMIC VIABILITY.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF COUNCIL FOLLOWS OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, THE RECOGNITION OF THE WORK DONE BY AND FOR THE ELRDC BE RECOGNIZED.
IN SUMMARY, THE ELLIOT LAKE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION REQUEST THE COUNCIL DISSOLVE THE COMMISSION AS SOON AS PRACTICABLE, AND THAT $1 MILLION IN SEED FUNDS LOANED TO THE COMMISSION BE RETURNED TO THE CITY, THAT THE BALANCE OF MY APOLOGIES 1.6, NOT 1.8.
BE PUT INTO A RESERVE DESIGNATED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THAT ONGOING DUTIES OF SAMPLING AND OVERSEEING OF WATERFRONT PROPERTIES BE TRANSFERRED FROM THE COMMISSION TO THE CITY.
AND THIS IS RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
COUNCILLOR PEARCE MUCH APPRECIATED.
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP FOR YOU.
FIRST, I WANT TO START OFF BY THANKING ALL THE MEMBERS AND THE FOUNDERS OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FOR DOING 20 YEARS OF GREAT SERVICE FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND BUILDING SUCH AN ECONOMIC DRIVER WITHIN OUR MUNICIPALITY.
IT WAS OUR SECOND LARGEST DRIVER IN OUR ECONOMY IN SEVERAL DECADES.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE AND THANK THOSE PEOPLE THAT DID THIS FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
IT WAS DONE VIRTUALLY BY VOLUNTEERS.
THE STATEMENT THAT THEY RECEIVED WAS MINISCULE.
MY ONLY ISSUE THAT I HAVE IS ACTUALLY ON THE FINAL LINE IS THE FACT THAT THERE'S ONGOING DUTIES OF SAMPLING AND OVERSEEING OF WATERFRONT PROPERTIES, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A COST RELATED TO THAT.
I WANT THIS TO GO FORWARD, I AGREE THAT WE'RE AT THE STAGE, SADLY THAT, I DISAGREE WITH THE FACT THAT MR. OR COUNCILLOR PEARCE OR HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT AS THE BOARD FEELS THAT THEY HAVE FULFILLED THEIR MANDATE.
THEY GOT HANDCUFFED, THEIR HANDS ARE TIED.
THEY COULD HAVE CONTINUED, THERE'S A LOT MORE LOTS THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE IF THINGS WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT.
THEY WOULD HAVE CONTINUED AND GOT MORE LOTS DEVELOPED.
BUT THE PREDICAMENT WE'RE IN, IS THE PREDICAMENT WE'RE IN.
AND I AGREE WE'RE NOW AT A PLACE WHERE IT IS FUTILE TO CONTINUE TO PUT MORE BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS INTO THIS AND NOT MOVE FORWARD.
AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING DEROGATORY TO ANYBODY OR ANYTHING THAT HAS STOPPED THIS AND PUT US IN THIS PLACE.
BUT SO I THINK IT WAS WORKED WELL DONE, BUT MY ONLY CONCERN AGAIN IS THERE'S A COST TO CONTINUE THAT.
AND I WOULD APPRECIATE OR ASK THE COMMISSION TO GIVE US A REPORT BECAUSE IF WE TAKE THE MONEY AND EARMARK IT STRICTLY TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHAT IS THE ONGOING COST TO THE MUNICIPALITY AND THE TAXPAYERS TO COVER THAT? SHOULD WE BE EARMARKING SOME OF THOSE FUNDS TO GO INTO A RESERVE FOR THAT PERPETUAL COST? IS IT A PERPETUAL COST? I DON'T KNOW.
WE'VE NEVER RECEIVED A REPORT ON THAT.
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ANSWER ME WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE.
IF IT'S PEANUTS, IT'S PEANUTS, AND IT'S PROBABLY A MOOT POINT.
BUT BASED ON THE FACT THAT IF IT IS PERPETUAL, THEN I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE EARMARKING SOME OF THAT RESERVE TO GO DIRECTLY INTO THAT AND THEN THE BALANCE TO GO TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO PUT AN AMENDMENT UNTIL I GET A RESPONSE FROM COUNCILLOR PEARCE, IF I MAY, YOUR WORSHIP.
COUNCILLOR PEARCE DOESN'T KNOW THE NUMBERS.
I'M SURE MR. DANIEL KNOWS THE NUMBERS AND OFFSET BY THE FACT THAT I CAN'T SAY THAT IN ANSWER TO COUNCILLOR PATRIE QUESTION, WHICH IS REALLY THE CRUCIAL QUESTION, WHICH IS, IS THIS IN PERPETUITY? AND THE ANSWER TO THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, IS YES.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE WATERFRONT PROPERTIES ON TROUT LAKES, WE WILL HAVE SAMPLING AND WE WILL
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HAVE WATER TESTING AND WE WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, OVERSEEING SUCH THINGS AS WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE ARE CLEAR CUTTING OR LETTING SOIL MOVE INTO THE LAKES AND DESTROY THE HABITAT OF THE TROUT.SO YES, THERE IS AN ONGOING COST.
I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO STAFF TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY NEED A SPECIFIC RESERVE FOR THAT.
IT COULD BE HANDLED UNDER GENERAL COSTS.
I THINK THAT WE GO WITH, I'M NOT SURE WHETHER IT WOULD BE PUBIC WORKS OR WHATEVER DEPARTMENT WOULD BE HANDLING IT.
I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT THE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE CURRENTLY DOING THIS, MR. KAVANAGH AND KERRY WOULD BE KEPT ON AND BECAUSE THEY'RE DARN GOOD AT IT AND THEY WORK VERY DILIGENTLY.
BUT YEAH, IT IS IN PERPETUITY, COUNCILLOR IT, AS LONG AS WE HAVE THOSE PROPERTIES, WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING TO DO THE WORK.
AS FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY EACH YEAR, I THINK.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT 50 TO $60000 A YEAR.
HE JUST GAVE ME A LOOK THAT SAID, NO, IT ISN'T.
MS. SONNENBURG, THE COST FOR THE CONTRACTED SERVICES FOR ONGOING MONITORING? IF WE LOOK BACK TO THE REPORT THAT WAS JUST PRESENTED TO COUNCIL FOR THE VARIANCE REPORT FOR THIS YEAR, I THINK THAT THAT'S A FAIRLY ACCURATE PICTURE OF WHAT WILL CONTINUE IN THE FUTURE.
IF COUNCILLOR PEARCE COULD AGREE THAT WHAT'S HAPPENED YEAR TO DATE WOULD LIKELY CONTINUE.
AND AT THIS MOMENT, WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY, ABOUT $30000 IN EXPENSES, GIVE OR TAKE.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT ON AN ESTIMATE TO TAKE A LOOK AT A BUDGET FOR FUTURE YEARS, KNOWING THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY DEVELOPMENT, BUT RATHER JUST THE CONTRACTED SERVICES.
THE CONTRACTED SERVICES LINE FOR 2021 IN THE ELRDC BUDGET IS TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THE FORECAST YEAR IS TWENTY TWO THOUSAND.
SO I THINK THAT AS A, WITHOUT DOING A DEEPER DIVE AND BEING PUT ON THE SPOT, THAT'S SORT OF THE NUMBER THAT I WOULD BE LOOKING AT BASED ON THE VARIANCE REPORT THAT WAS JUST PRESENTED.
ANSWER THE QUESTION, COUNCILLOR PATRIE? HELLO? YEAH, NO, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, IT ANSWERS THE QUESTION WELL ENOUGH THAT I WOULDN'T ASK TO POSTPONE THIS FOR A REPORT, BUT I WOULD ASK FOR A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT POTENTIALLY A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF THAT RESERVE MONEY GET SET ASIDE INTO AN ACCOUNT TO TAKE CARE OF THAT, AND THE INTEREST OF THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BEAR FRUIT WELL ENOUGH TO KEEP US FOR MANY YEARS TO NOT HAVE TO BEAR IT OUT TO THE TAXPAYERS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD AFFECT BASED ON THE TAXATION ON COTTAGE LOT.
I GET THERE IS THAT MONEY INVOLVED AS WELL, BUT JUST SO THAT WE CAN, IF WE COULD EARMARK A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AS TO WHERE WE'RE PUTTING IT, AS OPPOSED TO PUT IN THE WHOLE 1.6 INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HOLD ON TO SOME OF THAT MONEY AND PUT THE BALANCE INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE LOTS OF MONEY IN RESERVE THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY DO THAT FROM ELSEWHERE.
BUT I JUST THINK THAT IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO EARMARK IT FROM THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE IN THE BANK FOR THE COMMISSION, AS IT IS TODAY.
COUNCILLOR PEARCE ARE YOU OK WITH THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO? ACTUALLY, I THINK I WOULD DEFER THAT TO MR. GAGNON.
I'M NOT SURE, AND HAVING READ THE THE ELLIOT LAKE ACT, WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN DO THAT.
I MEAN, MY FIRST REACTION IS THE MOTION RIGHT NOW IS STILL CONCEPTUAL.
IT JUST SAYS MONEY'S, YOU KNOW, OR NET PROCEEDS.
SO HOW DO WE DETERMINE THE NET PROCEEDS IS GOING TO COME INTO THE LATER STAGE? ONCE WE HAVE THIS MOTION, WE WILL CRUNCH THE NUMBERS.
LOOK INTO THAT SUBTLETY BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT SUBTLETY TO SEE IF WE CAN BOOK IT FOR FUTURE YEARS.
AND HOW ELASTIC IS THAT? HOW FAR CAN WE GO? BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT.
BUT RIGHT NOW, I THINK WHAT'S ON THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS IS LARGELY CONCEPTUAL.
AND THEN THE HOW WE MAKE IT HAPPEN, WE'LL BE BACK IN FRONT OF COUNCIL ANYWAY.
I UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE AND I SUPPORT IT.
IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF THE LEGALITIES OF BOOKING EXPENSES THAT ARE TO COME IN THE FUTURE.
THAT'S A LITTLE TRICKY ON LEGAL REASONS AND PROBABLY ACCOUNTING REASONS.
WE'LL HAVE TO SORT THAT OUT, BUT WE CAN WE CAN LOOK INTO IN DUE TIME SO WE CAN EXPECT SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE FROM YOURSELF AND MS. SONNENBURG IN THAT RESPECT? OH, ABSOLUTELY, I MEAN, AGAIN, IF THIS PASSES, IT JUST GIVES US THE MANDATE TO LOOK AT THE LOGISTICS AND THE MACHINATIONS OF DISSOLVING A CORPORATION AND MOVING THE
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MONEY AND DEFINING WHAT COSTS ARE NOW AND IN FUTURE.SO WE'VE DONE SOME OF THAT HOMEWORK ALREADY, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO PICK UP THE PACE, OF COURSE, AFTER IT PASSES EVENING.
IF IT DOES, AND THEN WE'LL COME TO COUNCIL AS TO WHAT EXACTLY THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT COSTS ARE GOING THERE.
AND WE WILL CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THE CONCEPT THAT WAS JUST INTRODUCED.
COUNCILLOR PATRIE? THEN I GOT ANOTHER COUNCILLOR IS WAITING.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WILL COME BACK BECAUSE WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR THAT'S GOING TO BE A SOLID MOTION.
AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOES COME BACK BEFORE THE DISSOLUTION OF THE COMMISSION AS TO WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE PUT SO THAT WE CAN DO IT.
LIKE I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR A DEFERRAL UNTIL THAT CAN COME FORWARD.
BUT IF IT'S GOT TO COME BACK, I DON'T WANT A DEFERRAL IF I HAVE 100 PERCENT CONFIRMATION THAT THIS HAS TO COME BACK BEFORE IT'S FINALIZED.
IT'S JUST BASED ON THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN.
MY IMPRESSION IS THE NEXT STEPS WILL REQUIRE COUNCIL'S MORE ROBUST APPROVAL .
IT SAYS AS SOON AS LOGISTICALLY POSSIBLE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
SO YOU KNOW, WE WILL ABSOLUTELY BE BACK IN FRONT OF COUNCIL WITH THE NEXT, DETAIL NEXT STEPS ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF WHAT WAS JUST DISCUSSED.
SO MS. SONNENBURG AND I WILL ABSOLUTELY BE BACK IN FRONT OF COUNCIL IN MORE DETAIL TO SAY, HERE'S, I UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCIL WANTS.
AND THAT WILL ABSOLUTELY COME BACK.
THIS WILL DISAPPEAR INTO THE ETHER AND THEN YOU'LL GET AN EMAIL, SOMEBODY SAYING, OH, BY THE WAY, WE WOUND UP THE COMMISSION AND WE'LL BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU WITH DETAILS.
SO JUST FOR CLARITY, THIS THIS MOTION IS TO SET STAFF IN MOTION AS FAR AS THE INTENT SO THAT YOU CAN FOLLOW THE NEXT STEPS AND CONTINUE ON.
WE'RE GIVING YOU PERMISSION TO FOLLOW IT THROUGH, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE MULTIPLE STEPS IN THIS; CORRECT? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
COUNCILLOR TURNER? I THINK YOU PROBABLY RESOLVED MY QUESTION.
ONE OF MY CONCERNS HERE WAS THAT IT'S THE ELLIOT LAKE ACT.
I GUESS WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME HOOPS WITH THE PROVINCE TO HAVE THE ACT ITSELF REVIEWED.
AND MR. GAGNON? YEAH, JUST TO CLARIFY, THE ONLY THING WE'RE GETTING HERE IS A MANDATE TO WIND DOWN THE COMMISSION AND IF COUNCIL APPROVES IT, BASICALLY AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT WE'RE NOT LIKELY GOING TO BE DEVELOPING CROWN LAND ACQUIRED BY THE CROWN FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
AND IT DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE TO REPEAL THE ELLIOT LAKE ACT.
THE ACT IS STILL ON THE BOOKS AND IT WILL BE UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE PROVINCIAL LEGISLATURE DECIDES THAT IT'S TIME TO WINDING DOWN OR WE TALK TO THE PROVINCE, WHICH WE HAVE DONE BEFORE, AND WE WILL DO AGAIN, AS EARLY AS LATER THIS WEEK WHEN I HAVE A CALL WITH MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND HOUSING.
BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN, JUST BECAUSE WE LINED UP THE PROJECT DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE TO REPEAL THE ELLIOT LAKE ACT.
IN FACT, WE MAY WANT TO LEAVE IT ON THE BOOKS FOR SOME FUTURE, UNFORESEEABLE SCENARIO.
OR MAYBE IT DOESN'T INVOLVE THAT WE'LL BE BACK IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AGAIN TO LOBBY THE PROVINCE TO SAY, MAYBE IT'S BEST WE WILL BE GOING DOWN AS WELL.
SO THEY'RE, BASED ON THE IDEA THAT THERE MAY BE SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE CAN USE THE ACT TO OUR BENEFIT, FOR THE TIME BEING, WE LEAVE IT ALONE.
WELL, WE LEAVE IT ALONE BECAUSE IT'S THE LEAST OF OUR WORRIES AT THE BEGINNING.
WE'LL GET THERE IN DUE TIME, AND IF IT TURNS OUT THAT WE NEED TO REPEAL IT, THEN WE CAN TALK TO THE PROVINCE ABOUT IT OR IF WE WANT TO LEAVE IT ON THE BOOKS FOR SOME REASON THAT WE CAN CONSIDER THAT AS WELL.
COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.
MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT NEXT STEPS, AND MR. GARNEAU JUST EXPLAINED ALL THAT, SO WE'LL BE ANXIOUS TO HEAR BACK WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE.
I DID WANT TO ECHO COUNCILLOR PATRIE REMARKS TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION PAST AND PRESENT.
IT WAS A PROCESS THAT ENABLED US TO KEEP ELLIOT LAKE ALIVE FOR A LONG TIME, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT AT THIS POINT WE HAVE TO STOP THAT PROCESS BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL LAKES THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WE COULD ATTRACT HERE.
SO HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT, MAYBE IF WE KEEP THE ELLIOT LAKE ACT ON THE BOOKS, MAYBE SOME DAY WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CIRCLE BACK TO THAT.
BUT FOR NOW, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT WAS DONE AND FOR THE PEOPLE THAT VOLUNTEERED FOR US BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN VITAL AND STILL IS VITAL TO OUR COMMUNITY.
MR. GAGNON, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT TO COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? WELL, JUST A FINAL POINT ON THE ELLIOT LAKE ACT.
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WE DO NOT, OUR LEGAL OPINION HAS CLARIFIED THAT, WELL, WE KNOW THAT'S THE ONLY LEGAL OPINION, MUNICIPAL AND CORPORATIONS IN ONTARIO NO LONGER NEED THEIR OWN PRIVATE MEMBERS BILL LIKE ELLIOT LAKE NEEDED IN 2001 TO DEVELOP CROWN LAND.SO IF SOME DISTANT FUTURE, THE COUNCIL FIVE, TEN YEARS FROM NOW DECIDES THEY WANT TO GET BACK INTO CROWN LAND, THEY DON'T NEED A PRIVATE MEMBERS BILL IN THEIR OWN ACT TO DO THAT, WE CAN ACTUALLY JUST DO THAT BY NEGOTIATING WITH THE CROWN AND HAVING THE LAND.
SO WE DON'T NEED THE ACT NECESSARILY TO DO ANOTHER ROUND OF COTTAGE DEVELOPMENT IF WE SO CHOOSE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP.
COUNCILLOR MANN? THANK YOU, WORSHIP.
AGAIN, JUST TO TO THANK ALL THOSE INVOLVED WITH THE COMMISSION OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, IT'S ABSOLUTELY CHANGED THE LOOK OF OUR LAKES NORTH OF TOWN.
IT IS STILL QUITE IMPRESSIVE WHEN YOU'RE ON THE LAKES, LOOKING AND LOOKING AT THE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT OVER THE YEARS.
SO TO ALL THOSE INDIVIDUALS, THANK YOU.
TWO OTHER COMMENTS, BASED ON THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS MR. GAGNON HAS MADE.
DO WE ACTUALLY NEED A RESOLUTION TONIGHT TALKING ABOUT DISSOLVING SOMETHING AS SOON AS PRACTICAL OR ISN'T DIRECTION SUFFICIENT? THAT WOULD BE MY FIRST QUESTION.
AND THE SECOND ONE, CONSIDERING THAT WE HAVE BEEN USING FUNDS FROM THE COMMISSION TO PAY FOR THE WATER SAMPLING, I WOULD AGREE THAT SOME TYPE OF RESERVE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE CREATED IN ORDER TO CONTINUE THAT, BECAUSE THAT PROCESS IS MOVING FORWARD.
SO THOSE ARE MY ONLY TWO COMMENTS, BUT AGAIN WOULD SUPPORT IT.
AND THIS IS NOW ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE FURTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS THE OTHER REASON WHY WE HAVE A, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE AT A VERY CRUCIAL PART IN OUR HISTORY WITH OTHER CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING.
SO I THINK THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THE TIMING IS GOOD AND COUNCILLOR PEARCE, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD AGAIN AT THIS TIME.
COUNCILLOR MANN, WERE YOUR QUESTIONS RHETORICAL OR WERE YOU LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER? I DON'T SEE ANYONE JUMPING TO ANSWER THEM, SO I THINK THEY MAY HAVE BEEN RHETORICAL.
OKAY, YOU? COUNCILLOR PATRIE, AND THEN BACK TO COUNCILLOR PEARCE.
I KNOW THE CEO ANSWERED IT WAS JUST REGARDING THE ACT REGARDING DEVELOPING CROWN LINE.
WE DON'T NEED AN ACT THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH SPECIFIC TO LAKES.
SO AS LONG AS WE DON'T WANT TO DEVELOP ON LAKE TROUT LAKES, WE'RE PRETTY EASY TO DO IT WITH THE PROVINCE.
COUNCILLOR PEARCE, HOPEFULLY FINISH US OFF HERE.
YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF QUICK POINTS.
WE DELIBERATELY LEFT OUT DISSOLVING THE ELLIOT LAKE ACT FOR THE REASONS THAT MR. GAGNON MENTIONED, AND THERE ARE, IN ANSWER TO MS. FINAMORE, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
THERE ARE LAKES THAT WE CAN DEVELOP HERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT LAKES THAT YOU NEED THE COMMISSION FOR.
IT'S A QUESTION OF COUNCIL THEN SITTING DOWN AND SAYING, WHERE DO WE WANT TO SPEND OUR MONEY DEVELOPING FUTURE HOUSING PROJECTS IN AND AROUND ELLIOT LAKE? AND LORD KNOWS THERE'S A LOT OF THEM AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAKE A DECISION ON SOME OF THEM BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR.
AND IT'S BEEN SAID A FEW TIMES.
THANK YOU TO THE MANY VOLUNTEERS OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS.
DEFINITELY A HUGE ECONOMIC DRIVER EXPANDING OUR HOUSING HERE AND ELLIOT LAKE, WHICH IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR JUST ELLIOT LAKE THE WHOLE NORTH SHORE.
AFTER THE PRESENTATION FROM THE HOSPITAL, I'M SURE I WOULD HAVE CONTINUED TO ATTRACT DOCTORS IF WE COULD HAVE CARRIED ON.
LOOKING AT A BUNCH OF SMART PEOPLE AROUND THE TABLE, AND WE'RE GOING TO SORT THINGS OUT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
THAT SAID, I'LL CALL THE VOTE STARTING NOW WITH COUNCILLOR MANN.
IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR TURNER? IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR CYR? IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR PATRIE? IN FAVOR.
COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? IN FAVOR.
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NINE, UNFINISHED BUSINESS, 9.1 COMMUNITY HUB UPDATE STANDING ITEM ON THOSE WATCHING LIVE STREAM TOMORROW AT 11:00 A.M., HAVING A COMMUNITY HUB COMMITTEE MEETING .MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND AND TAKE PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
WE'LL BE REVIEWING THE PUBLIC INPUT ITEMS A REPORT PUT TOGETHER BY MR. ANTUNES, WHICH WILL BE BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
AND I DO BELIEVE, I'M HOPING THAT MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAVE BEEN INVITED
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TO WATCH, BUT THIS WILL BE MORE OR LESS A COUNCIL DISCUSSION, MOVING FORWARD.IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL UPDATES? MR. ANTUNES? A THREE YOUR WORSHIP, NO, I WAS JUST NODDING AT YOUR REQUEST.
MR. MOTTO IS THE MOTTO SHE DID REACH OUT TO THE COMMITTEE AND SENT OUT THE INVITATION TO WATCH IT LIVE STREAMED.
IT WILL ALSO BE PLACED, ONCE THE VIDEO IS CURATED, IT WILL BE PLACED ON THE RED CUP PAGE, SO FOLKS WILL HAVE MULTIPLE AVENUES TO FIND IT.
MR. GAGNON, ANY OTHER UPDATES FOR 9.1? NO, YOU SUMMED IT UP QUITE WELL.
9.2 ARTS AND CULTURE HUB UPDATE.
HAVE WE HAD ANY FORWARD PROGRESS OR STILL WAITING ON THE GOVERNMENT? WE'RE WAITING ON THE GOVERNMENT, ALTHOUGH IT WOULD GIVE THEM MAYBE A WEEK SINCE THE ELECTION, MAYBE IT'S TIME WE CAN GET OUR NEWLY ELECTED MP TO RATTLE SOME CAGES IN OTTAWA OR DO WHAT WE CAN.
WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL FOR OUR GREEN NET ZERO APPLICATION.
IF SUCCESSFUL, IT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.
OF COURSE, WE HAVE A $19 MILLION NET ZERO ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY BUILDING.
AND IF WE ARE NOT, THEN WE WOULD NEED TO COME UP WITH A PLAN B, BUT WE'RE PREPARED FOR THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES, HOPEFULLY NEVER NECESSARY.
9.3, THIS ITEM NEED TO REMAIN AS A STANDING ITEM WITH THE LAST MOTION THAT WAS JUST PASSED.
AND MAYBE WE COULD BROADEN IT, BUT IT'S STILL RESIDENTIAL WATERFRONT, IT'S FAIRLY BROAD.
I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IT FOR A WHILE AND SEE WHERE IT LEADS US OR OUR OTHER INNER LAKES WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND SEE.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT SAID THIS EVENING TO DISCUSS.
OR WE CAN ALSO, JUST BECAUSE IT SAYS IT DOES SEEM TO BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION, WE CAN ALWAYS DISCUSS AT THIS ITEM THE WINDING DOWN OF THE COMMISSION.
PERHAPS, OR MAYBE WE NEED TO BROADEN THAT, BUT THAT MIGHT BE AN APPROPRIATE USE OF THAT IF WE CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE WINDING DOWN THE COMMISSION OR WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO CONSIDER.
COUNCILLOR PATRIE? THANK YOU, WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.
YEAH, I HAVE NO ISSUES LEAVING IT ON AS A STANDING ITEM, WE MAY WANT TO JUST TAKE THAT AS ABOUT THE TAKE THE PORTION ABOUT GOING INTO CLOSED SESSION, IF THERE IS ITEMS THAT DO HAVE TO GO IN THE CLOSED.
WE CAN ALWAYS PUT THEM IN THE CLOSED WHEN WE GET THERE.
BUT ESPECIALLY WITH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS COMING BACK A COUPLE MORE TIMES, OBVIOUSLY, IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, SO WE CAN LEAVE IT THERE.
IF THERE'S NO UPDATE AT THAT MEETING, THEN WE JUST CARRY ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
JUST LEAVE IT AS THAT, BUT TAKE THE CLOSED SESSION.
COUNCILLOR PEARCE? YEAH, I WOULD.
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.
I WOULD AGREE BASICALLY WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE ON THAT ONE, AND RESIDENTIAL WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT COVERS A WHOLE RANGE OF THINGS, NOT NECESSARILY THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
SO, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN DISCUSS UNDER THAT.
MR. GAGNON, ANYTHING NEW? WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COBBLED TOGETHER AS BEST WE COULD OUR TWO NEW POLICIES.
THE STAFF POLICY AND THE PASSPORT POLICY.
LEARNED A FEW LESSONS OVER THE WEEKEND, AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME MORE REFINING ON SOME OF THE FLU AND TRAFFIC IN OUR FACILITIES.
WE HAVE POSTINGS OUT FOR SCREENERS, PART TIME STAFF THAT WILL BE ON BOARDING FOR SCREENING, SO NOTHING EARTH SHATTERING.
BUT WE LEARNED A FEW LESSONS FROM THE RED WINGS GAMES AND WE'RE GOING TO TWEAK PROCESS AND THE FLOW A LITTLE BIT AT THE ARENA, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
ASIDE FROM THAT, WE'RE JUST CONTINUING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES WITH COVID, AND WHEN IT COMES TO MUNICIPAL SERVICES, RECREATION OR CITY HALL.
WAS THERE CLARITY, MR. GAGNON, FOR STAFF, WITH THE EXCEPTIONS FOR YOUTH WHO ARE ENROLLED IN SPORTS LEAGUES AS OPPOSED TO YOUTH WHO ARE GOING TO WATCH THE SPORTS? WE'RE STILL LOOKING INTO THAT SUBTLETY, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO GO THERE, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.
MY IMPRESSION OF COUNCIL'S REVIEW WHEN IT CAME TO, WE WENT SLIGHTLY FARTHER THAN WHAT THE FORD GOVERNMENT REQUIRED US WHEN IT COMES TO DEFINING A HIGH RISK OR LOW RISK PROGRAM.
COUNCIL AGREED THAT THE VACCINE PASSPORT POLICY APPLIED TO ALL OUR INDOOR
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NONESSENTIAL FACILITIES, AND BUT THAT , IN MY OPINION, IS THE ONLY AREA WHERE WE PLANNED ON GOING FARTHER THAN WHAT THE DOUG FORD GOVERNMENT REQUIRED US TO.AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING INTO THAT.
IF YOUTH ARE REGISTERED IN AN INDOOR SPORT AND WE CAN USE THAT EXEMPTION TO SOME DEGREE.
WE'RE STILL LOOKING INTO THAT AND WE WILL TRY TO REFINE THAT BEFORE THE NEXT SLATE OF MINOR HOCKEY AND WHATNOT.
SO, WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN, BASED ON WHAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE FORD GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS THE CLEAREST, BUT WE ARE LOOKING INTO THAT SUBTLETY RIGHT NOW.
UNLESS COUNCIL SAYS, OH NO, NO.
EVERY INDIVIDUAL IN THAT BUILDING NEEDS TO BE DOUBLE VAXXED OR PROVIDE PROOF, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY'RE YOUTH IN AN INDOOR RECREATION PROGRAM OR ORGANIZED EVENT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T BELIEVE COUNCIL HAD ANY INTENTION OF GOING BEYOND THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PROVINCE, AND THERE IS A GRAY AREA WITH THE PROVINCE STATING THAT.
YOUTH EXERCISING, PLAYING SPORTS WAS KIND OF ONE OF THOSE ESSENTIAL THINGS FOR PHYSICAL ACTIVITY AND HEALTH AND SO ON, SO FORTH.
SO LET'S TRY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL CLEAR ON THAT.
I'VE GOT A QUESTION FROM COUNCILLOR MANN AND COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.
I DID RECEIVE A CALL FROM A RESIDENT TODAY, AND I JUST THOUGHT I'D TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.
HE UNFORTUNATELY TOOK THE PRESENTATION LAST WEEK FROM MS. CROSS QUITE LITERALLY AND SEARCHED FOR HALF A DAY FOR HIS PASSPORT IN ORDER TO ENTER MUNICIPAL FACILITIES.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THE TERM VACCINATION PASSPORT IS TWO PIECES OF IDENTIFICATION.
THE VACCINATION PROOF FROM THE PROVINCE, EITHER ON THE PHONE OR IN HARD COPY, AS WELL AS PHOTO ID.
THIS IS NOT YOUR CANADIAN PASSPORT THAT YOU NEED TO ENTER MUNICIPAL FACILITIES.
I WOULD HOPEFULLY SHARE THAT BECAUSE IF ONE PERSON HAS ASSUMED IT AND FELT IT CONCERNING ENOUGH TO CALL ME THAT MORE PEOPLE MAY HAVE FELT THAT WAY, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
I HAVE HAD COMMENTS ABOUT INDIVIDUALS TRYING TO GET A NEW PASSPORT DONE, AND I JUST GOT IT NOW.
COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.
I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF IN READING A LOT ON THE WEEKEND ABOUT THE DIFFERENT SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS AND HOW THEY TRIED TO PARALLEL THEIR MANDATES ALONG WITH THE PROVINCES, THERE WAS A PERIOD OF GRACE THAT WAS BEING ALLOWED FOR THE YOUTH TO BE VACCINATED UP UNTIL OCTOBER 30TH.
AND I THINK IT WOULD ONLY BE PRUDENT IF WE ALSO EXTENDED THAT FOR US TO DECIDE ON A TUESDAY THAN ON WEDNESDAY, THIS OR WHATEVER WE DID, WHATEVER DAY OF THE WEEK IT WAS, I FORGET NOW.
I THINK IT WAS A TUESDAY THAT WEDNESDAY, YOU KNOW, THAT ESSENTIALLY THAT DAY AT MIDNIGHT THAT THIS CAME INTO EFFECT, BUT IT WAS A BIT OF A HARDSHIP ON SOME OF THOSE SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE CAN INCLUDE THE PERIOD OF GRACE TILL OCTOBER 30TH, IT WILL AT LEAST AND MAYBE GIVE SOME INCENTIVE TO SOME OF THE YOUTH TO GET VACCINATED THAT HAVEN'T BEEN BECAUSE IT IS AN IMPORTANT THING FOR EVERYONE TO DO.
AND I ALSO JUST WANTED TO MENTION DURING THIS THAT IF BUSINESSES ARE NOT SURE WHAT TO DO, THEY SHOULD PROBABLY CALL A EPH FOR DIRECTION.
BECAUSE I WAS IN A FACILITY, IN A PRIVATE BUSINESS, WHERE THE GIRL WAS TELLING US THAT WE NEEDED TO CARRY PROOF OF THE FIRST AND SECOND DOSE, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE IS CORRECT.
BUT IF IT IS, THEN PEOPLE SHOULD BE, BUSINESSES SHOULD BE CALLING AT EPH FOR DIRECTION SO THAT WE'RE ALL BEING GIVEN THE SAME INFORMATION AND WE'RE ALL BEING TREATED THE SAME WHEN WE GO TO PLACES THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS MANDATED THAT WE MUST SHOW VACCINATION POLICIES.
YOU CAN'T HAVE IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S LEGAL FOR THEM TO RETAIN THAT INFORMATION ON ANY DATABASES.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU'RE NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE DOING, PLEASE CALL EPH FOR DIRECTION OR LOOK IT UP ON THE PROVINCIAL WEBSITES BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS, THIS IS A BIG EMOTIONAL SUBJECT FOR EVERYBODY, AND THERE'S NO SENSE PEOPLE BEING ANGRY AND UPSET OVER THINGS THAT AREN'T REAL OR TRUE.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUSINESSES TAKE THAT EXTRA STEP AND CLARIFY, SO THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF KNOW EXACTLY WHAT AND THE PUBLIC KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN THEY ENTER YOUR ESTABLISHMENT.
THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
JUST FOR CLARITY ON THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH'S WEBSITE, WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD THE VACCINATION RECEIPT, IT'S CALLED, NOT PASSPORT.
IT ACTUALLY SAYS THE DATE AND THE DOSE THAT YOU HAVE.
PFIZER SECOND DOSE, WHATEVER DATE MODERNA AND THAT'S AN ISSUE RIGHT THERE FOR MYSELF
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AND OTHERS LIKE ME, IF I WANTED TO GO INTO THE U.S.THEY DON'T ALLOW MIXING AS WE DO IN CANADA.
BUT IT DOES SAY RIGHT ON YOUR RECEIPT WHAT YOU RECEIVED AND WHAT DATE.
COUNCILLOR PATRIE? I'M SORRY, CAN I? THE ONE I DOWNLOADED FROM THE WEBSITE ONLY SAYS THAT I'VE RECEIVED A SECOND DOSE AND NAMES WHAT IT IS.
SO THERE IS DIFFERENT FORMS EVEN COMING FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
COUNCILLOR PATRIE? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.
I WOULD JUST LIKE CLARIFICATION, ARE WE FOLLOWING THE YOUTH EXCEPTION GUIDELINE? AS FOR THE PROVINCE OR ARE WE NOT? FIRST OFF.
THE ANSWER IS YES, WE'VE MADE OUR BEST EFFORTS EVEN OVER THE WEEKEND TO DO THAT, WERE WE A HUNDRED PERCENT CONSISTENT? NOT ENTIRELY SURE, BUT MY IMPRESSION OVER THE WEEKEND WAS THAT, YES, WE WERE ALLOWING THAT EXEMPTION BECAUSE MY IMPRESSION, INCLUDING IN THE EMAIL, TOO, I THINK IT WAS FIGURE SKATING TODAY SAYING THAT YES, COUNCIL WAS NOT INTENDING TO GO FURTHER THAN WHAT THE FORD GOVERNMENT MANDATES, EXCEPT FOR IN THAT ONE SUBTLETY THERE WHEN IT COMES TO HIGH RISK, LOW RISK.
THAT, I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH.
SO THEN THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE THEN BECOMES WHAT IS THE AGE THAT WE'RE USING FOR THAT? BECAUSE THAT'S NOT SPECIFIED IN THE PROVINCE'S MANDATE? I DON'T HAVE THAT OF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT WE'LL HAVE.
SO 17 AND UNDER IS EXEMPT IF THERE.
OK, SO THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH AND THEN THE GRACE PERIOD? COUNCILLOR FINAMORE BROUGHT IT UP, BUT SHE DIDN'T ACTUALLY PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, AND I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY I AGREE WITH HER AND I'M GOING TO PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR OF THAT COUNCIL AMEND OUR POLICY TO ALLOW THAT GRACE PERIOD FOR ORGANIZATIONS TO.
HAVE TOLD I BELIEVE IT WAS THE OCTOBER 30TH WAS WHEN THE DATELINE WAS FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE THEIR PASSPORTS IN PLACE, BECAUSE EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE THEM, IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM THAT LONG TO ACTUALLY GET THE VACCINATIONS AND THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE REMOVED IF THEY DON'T START GETTING THEM NOW.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACT IMMEDIATELY.
BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT GRACE PERIOD PUT IN THAT THEY MUST BE DOUBLE VACCINATED BY THAT DATE.
IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
AGAIN, CONTINUING ON WITH THE Q&A COUNCILLOR MANN? WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR NOW.
YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME QUESTION, COMMENT.
MY COMMENT WAS ON ANOTHER MATTER RELATING TO WHAT VACCINATION MEANT.
DOUBLE VACCINATED 14 DAYS AFTER IS A FULL VACCINATION, 14 DAYS AFTER SECOND DOSE, ONE DOSE IS NOT FULLY VACCINATED.
SO I THINK THAT'S AND IN ONTARIO, NOT TO TRAVEL OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY.
I BELIEVE THE SECOND COPY FOR FULL VACCINATION IS SUFFICIENT.
THAT'S THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE OPERATING UNDER.
COUNCILLOR PEARCE? YEAH, I WAS GOING TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILLOR MANN SAID.
HOWEVER, WITH REGARDS TO THE AMENDMENT OF THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR, I HAVE REAL DIFFICULTY, HAVING A GRACE PERIOD UNTIL OCTOBER 30TH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALISTIC, I THINK IT'S GOES AGAINST THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT HAVE GOTTEN THEIR TWO SHOTS, THAT ARE DOING THEIR BEST TO MAKE SURE THEY FOLLOW ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS, AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE EXEMPTIONS BECAUSE SOMEBODY IN FIGURE SKATING OR WHATEVER DOESN'T LIKE IT.
I'M SORRY, I HAVE REAL PROBLEMS WITH THIS.
MR. GAGNON? JUST WANT TO CLARIFY MY IMPRESSION OF THE MOTION, WHETHER IT'S PASSED OR NOT.
WE'RE ALREADY FOLLOWING THE PROVINCIAL GUIDELINES, SO IF THE EXEMPTION IS ALREADY THERE, WE WILL USE IT.
SO WHETHER IT PASSES OR NOT, THE DIRECTION THAT WAS PRETTY CLEAR, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PANDEMIC WAS, EXCEPT FOR THE SUBTLE ISSUES ON OCCASION.
YOU FOLLOW WHAT THE PROVINCE TELLS YOU.
SO IF THE PROVINCE GIVES US AN EXCLUSION, A GRACE PERIOD, THEN WE WILL USE IT.
BUT THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S ONLY FOR YOUTH IN ORGANIZED INDOOR.
IT'S NOT A I HAVE AN OCTOBER 30 GRACE PERIOD.
I KNOW IT'S JUST FOR THE ORGANIZED ACTIVITIES THROUGH A YOUTH PROGRAM.
INDOOR YOUTH PROGRAM, MR. GAGNON? YES.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE SOCCER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
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IT'S GOING TO BE HOCKEY AND IT'S GOING TO BE SKATING, AND IT'S GOING TO BE THINGS OF THAT NATURE? CURRENTLY.BASKETBALL? COURT FOR AN OUTDOOR, ANYWAY, RIGHT? COUNCILLOR PATRIE? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.
AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, IT'S STRICTLY INDOORS, THAT DOESN'T SAY THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE OUTDOORS, BUT THE MANDATE IS FOR THE PARTICIPANTS OF YOUTH HAVE THAT EXCEPTION NOT.
NOW, PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT ARE GOING TO GO IN TO WATCH YOUTH SPORT.
SO IT'S, MY MOTION THAT I WANT IS AND HOPEFULLY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE IS IN AGREEMENT IS STRICTLY AS PER THE PROVINCIAL MANDATE TO GIVE THESE ORGANIZATIONS TIME TO HAVE THEIR PARTICIPANTS TO BE ABLE TO BE VACCINATED WITHOUT THEM HAVING TO BE REMOVED FROM THEIR PROGRAMS. OK, SO.
MS. BRAY? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I HAVE THE O REG 6B HERE AND IT STATES THAT THE EXEMPTION STORY IS FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE AND WHO ARE ENTERING THE INDOOR PREMISES OF A FACILITY USED FOR SPORTS AND RECREATIONAL FITNESS ACTIVITIES SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSES OF ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING IN AN ORGANIZED SPORT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GUIDANCE PUBLISHED BY THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROVISION.
OK, SO THE THE MOTION MIGHT BE A MOOT POINT, THEN, IF WE'RE FOLLOWING PROVINCIAL REGULATIONS.
AM I CORRECT? YOU KNOW, YOUR WORSHIP, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO OUR POLICY DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT EXCEPTION, AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR THE AMENDMENT TO THE POLICIES TO INCLUDE THAT EXCEPTION.
COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? THE PROVINCE DOESN'T INCLUDE THE EXEMPTION PERIOD UP UNTIL OCTOBER 30TH.
SORRY, I WAS JUST GOING TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILLOR FINAMORE SAID.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A DATE IN OURS.
WE DO HAVE EXEMPTIONS FOR ORGANIZED SPORTS FOR YOUTH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE GRACE PERIOD.
COUNCILLOR TURNER? I'M JUST WONDERING WHO WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE HERE.
THE PROVINCE SAYS THAT IT CAME UNDER INDOOR SPORTS ORGANIZED.
THERE'S NO DEADLINE OR DATE OR FINALITY TO IT.
SO WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE? MY ONLY QUESTION IS, ARE WE FOLLOWING THE PROVINCIAL GUIDELINES IF WE'RE FOLLOWING PROVINCIAL GUIDELINES AND? ABSOLUTELY.
MS. BRAY? OUR MOTION, OUR POLICY, ARE WE FOLLOWING PROVINCIAL GUIDELINES? I DON'T HAVE IT UP IN FRONT OF ME, I CAN PULL IT UP QUICKLY, AND I DON'T BELIEVE MS. CROSS IS ON THE MEETING THIS EVENING, BUT I DO KNOW THAT MR. GAGNON MAY WANT TO STEP IN AS WELL, THAT THEY WERE SPEAKING ABOUT THAT AND POSSIBLY AMENDING OUR POLICY AS IT'S SIMILAR TO OUR COVID 19 POLICY WHERE IT'S FLUID.
IT'S ALWAYS CHANGING BECAUSE THE THE PROVINCE IS ALWAYS CHANGING THE REQUIREMENTS.
MR. GAGNON? WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, WE'VE MADE OUR BEST EFFORTS, WE WILL REDOUBLE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING THIS INDOOR EXCEPTION FOR YOUTH ORGANIZED SPORT.
THE OTHER THING IMPORTANT TO NOTE, REGARDLESS OF A GRACE PERIOD, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COVID EVERY EVERY COUNCIL MEETING.
SO WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS AGAIN ON OCTOBER 12TH.
AND QUITE SURE BY THEN DOUG FORD WILL HAVE ROLLED OUT SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE WILL BE DEALING WITH AT THAT MEETING.
OR WE HAVE ANOTHER TWO WEEKS BEFORE OCTOBER 30TH, SO WE CAN KEEP DISCUSSING THIS IF WE WANT BECAUSE WE ARE AS OUTSTANDING ITEM.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO SAY WE'RE FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES AND IN TWO WEEKS OR TWO AND A HALF WEEKS AND WE HAVE OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
YOU CAN ASK US THE QUESTION AGAIN AND WE'LL STILL BE FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES UNLESS WE WANT TO HAVE IT LINE BY LINE REVIEW OF THE POLICY EVERY TIME, WHICH I WOULD PREFER NOT.
LET'S JUST FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES.
THAT'S THE ANIMAL THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE COVID BEGAN, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.
COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? I'M WILLING TO TAKE IT THE ONE STEP FURTHER AND PUT THE TIME PERIOD IN SO THAT ALL OF OUR YOUTH THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN SPORTS INDOORS AND ELLIOT LAKE MUST BE DOUBLE VAXXED.
OTHERWISE, IF WE DON'T, THEN THEY NEVER NEED TO GET VACCINATED.
ANY OTHER CONVERSATION ON THE MOTION THAT'S BEEN PUT FORWARD? I'LL GO TO A ROLL CALL VOTE STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR MANN? OPPOSED.
COUNCILLOR PATRIE? IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR PEARCE? OPPOSED.
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COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? IN FAVOR, I'M OPPOSED AT A TIME WHEN IT'S DEFEATED.AGAIN, WE ARE FOLLOWING PROVINCIAL STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS.
I DON'T WANT TO OVERSTEP MY BOUNDARIES AT ALL.
ANY OTHER UPDATES FOR COVID 19? MR. GAGNON? I REALLY DON'T REALLY KNOW STATUS QUO ASIDE FROM THAT, OK, CARRY ON NUMBER 10 PETITIONS, THERE ARE NONE.
[11. CORRESPONDENCE]
11.1 LETTER FROM DR.WE ALL HAVE OPTOMETRY SERVICES REQUEST MOTION OF SUPPORT, AND THE MOTION DRAFT MOTION IS PREPARED TO BELIEVE THAT PROPOSED MOTION, WHEREAS TO DATE THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT HAS NOT YET MADE A BINDING COMMITMENT TO COVER THE OPERATING COST OF OPTOMETRIST TO DELIVER EXAMS. WHEREAS INSURED EYE EXAMS IN ONTARIO ARE FUNDED AT THE LOWEST LEVEL IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
AND WHEREAS THE FEES FOR SENIORS EYE EXAMS WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE BY 60 PERCENT TO REACH THE NEXT LOWEST PROVINCE, BEING IN MANITOBA BY MORE THAN ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE PERCENT TO REACH THE NEXT LOWEST FUNDED.
AND WHEREAS THE NUMBER OF SENIORS IN ONTARIO HAS INCREASED BY MORE THAN 70 PERCENT OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS, AND THE PROVINCE'S OWN PROJECTIONS INDICATE THESE NUMBERS WILL ALMOST DOUBLE FROM 2.6 MILLION IN 2020 TO 4.5 MILLION BY 2046.
AND WHEREAS IT IS VITAL THAT THERE CONTINUE TO BE A SUSTAINABLE, HIGH QUALITY EYECARE SYSTEM THAT RESIDENTS IN ELLIOT LAKE CAN ACCESS TODAY AND IN THE FUTURE, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OF ELLIOT LAKE ADD ITS VOICE TO THE MANY CITIES, INSTITUTIONS AND PEOPLE CALLING ON THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT TO ENTER INTO GOOD FAITH.
FORMAL NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE ONTARIO ASSOCIATION OF OPTOMETRISTS WITH THE GOAL OF BRINGING SERVICE AND FUNDING LEVELS IN OPTOMETRY IN ONTARIO UP TO MORE EQUITABLE LEVELS WITH THE REST OF CANADA.
THAT THIS RESOLUTION BE SHARED WITH PREMIER FORD HEALTH MINISTER CHRISTINE ELLIOTT AND OUR LOCAL MPP.
CAN I HAVE A MOVE BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? SECOND BY COUNCILLOR MANN? THERE'S A LETTER ATTACHED TO THIS ALSO WHICH WE ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT, SO I OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS COMMENTS.
COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE FORWARD THIS RESOLUTION ON TO THE GOVERNMENT, TO THE PROVINCE AND ASK THEM TO GET NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OUR SENIORS AND OUR CHILDREN ARE WITHOUT EYECARE SERVICES.
AND I THINK THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT THAT'S GOING TO END THIS JOB ACTION IS TO HAVE THEM NEGOTIATE WITH THEM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COUNCILLOR CYR? IT'S, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.
THIS IS INDIRECTLY, BUT IT'S STILL COVERS EYECARE.
IF PEOPLE ARE EVER IN EMERGENCY NEED OF EYE CARE SUPPORT SERVICES.
THE LIONS CLUBS ARE THE KNIGHTS OF THE BLIND.
THEY CAN HELP IN THAT RESPECT.
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.
MY ONLY ISSUE IS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE PUTTING FORWARD AS A RESOLUTION.
IF WE COULD GET STUFF TO MAYBE BRING THIS BACK AGAIN SO THAT WE HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT IS MAYBE WE MAY HAVE SOMEBODY ON THE FLOOR OR SPEAK WITH MR. MANTHA AND MAYBE GET THEM TO GET SOMETHING RIGHT UP IN FRONT OF THE PREMIER TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
I AGREE WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT AND WE NEED TO DO IT.
JUST, IF THERE'S A STRONGER WAY TO BRING IT FORWARD TO THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT.
I WOULD RATHER GO DOWN THAT ROAD.
I APPRECIATE COMING FORWARD, BUT I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE MORE DEPTH TO IT.
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, SO JUST TO ANSWER COUNCILLOR PATRIE FIRST QUESTION.
THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT IS BEING PRESENTED BY MULTIPLE MUNICIPALITIES AROUND THE PROVINCE, AND WE JUST SWITCHED OUT OUR CITY'S NAME IN THIS ONE.
BUT THIS IS THE SIMILAR MOTION THAT'S BEING PASSED BY SEVERAL MUNICIPALITIES.
COUNCILLOR TURNER? I THINK MS. BRAY TOOK CARE OF THE ISSUE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS THEN? NOW, ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
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SO NOTICE A MOTION 12.1 NOTICE, A MOTION COUNCILLOR PATRIE REQUEST FOR HIM TO[12. NOTICES OF MOTION]
WITHDRAW APPEAL.COUNCILLOR PATRIE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.
THE IC FORUM AND CASSELS BROCK HAD A HEARING, AND THE JUDGE RULED THAT COUNCILLOR PEARCE WAS GUILTY AND APPEALED TO PENALTY OF A REPRIMAND.
AND WHEREAS E4M AND CASSELLS BROCK HAS FILED AN APPEAL TO THE COURTS AND ARE BILLING THE MUNICIPALITY FOR SET APPEAL.
I HEREBY MOVE THAT COUNCIL HEREBY RESOLVE TO REQUEST THE E4M WITHDRAW THEIR APPEAL AND THAT STAFF BE DIRECTED TO CONTACT E4M AND MAKE THIS AN OFFICIAL REQUEST OF COUNCIL.
AS WELL AS STAFF BE DIRECTED TO LOBBY THE GOVERNMENT TO CHANGE THE PROCESS AND NOT ALLOW INTEGRITY COMMISSIONERS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH APPEALS WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF COUNCIL, WHICH CAUSES FINANCIAL HARDSHIP ON THE MUNICIPALITY.
IS THERE A SECONDER FOR THE MOTION? SECOND BY COUNCILLOR CYR.
COUNCILLOR PATRIE, TO FINISH OFF YOUR YOUR INTENTION, YOUR REPORT.
SO THE BACKGROUND IS FOR E4M BROUGHT COUNCILLOR PEARCE BEFORE A JUDGE REGARDING A COMPLAINT FILED FOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST REGARDING SITTING ON THE [INAUDIBLE] BOARD AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN AND VOTING AT COUNCIL REGARDING THE SAME.
AND AS PER THE INCLUDED ATTACHMENTS FROM CASSELS BROCK, FACTOM, AND THE APPLICANT.
IN THE LETTER FROM MAYOR MARCHISELLA, LENIENCY WAS REQUESTED AND THE JUDGE RULED IN THAT DIRECTION.
UM, IF E4M AND CASSELS BROCK WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN APPEAL, THEY SHOULD BE DOING SO WITHOUT COSTING THE TAXPAYERS OF OUR MUNICIPALITY.
THIS APPEAL IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE TO THE TAXPAYERS OF THE MUNICIPALITY.
FINANCIALLY, E4M HAS NO CONTRACT WITH THE MUNICIPALITY AND HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH A NEW INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER THAT, AS PER THE ACT, MUST HAVE A CONTRACT IN PLACE.
THE COST OF THIS APPEAL MAY WELL BE IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, AND THE CITY HAS NO MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO PAY THESE EXPENSES.
SO THAT'S WHAT I HAD SUBMITTED.
I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD A LITTLE, GO A LITTLE FURTHER, YOUR WORSHIP.
SO ALL PARTIES WERE ASKING FOR LENIENCY.
AS PER THE FOUR ATTACHMENTS THAT I'VE PUT WITH THE NOTICE OF MOTION.
E4M AT THEIR PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL WENT SO FAR AS TO USE WORDING SIMILAR TO UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO PROCEED TO COURT ON THESE FINDINGS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE EXACT WORDING, BUT THEY ARE IN THE ARCHIVES OF THE CITY.
BUT THEY WEREN'T PLEASED THAT THEY HAD TO MOVE FORWARD, SO THEY WERE LOOKING FOR LENIENCY FROM DAY ONE.
I KNOW E4M HAS THE RIGHT TO APPEAL, BUT THEY WON THEIR CASE AND ARE NOW COSTING US POTENTIALLY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THE CHANGE OF A DECISION, BUT JUST A HIGHER PENALTY, WHICH THEY MAY HAVE GOTTEN HAD THEY FOUGHT HARDER FOR STIFFER PENALTIES DURING THE HEARING.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH MAKING AN OFFICIAL ASKING E4M TO NOT COST US ANY MORE MONEY.
REGARDLESS, E4M HAS NO CONTRACT WITH US, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON THAT EITHER.
I DON'T WANT TO EVEN GO DOWN THAT FIGHT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
AS FOR THE LOBBYING STUFF GOVERNMENT, I BELIEVE THAT THE ACT IS FLAWED IN MAKING A MUNICIPALITY PAY FOR THESE APPLICATIONS TO A JUDGE AND THAT THIS APPLICATION SORRY.
AND THAT IS WHY WE INITIALLY TOOK STAFF RECOMMENDATION REGARDING COSTING ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS AN HOUR.
BUT NOW WE'RE PAYING THROUGH THE SAME PEOPLE, I BELIEVE AROUND $600 AN HOUR FOR THIS TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE THE ACT REQUIRES A CONTRACT SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY DOWN THE ROAD AND WHAT AUTHORITY WE ALLOW THE IC TO HAVE.
BUT WE STILL NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME SAY, REGARDING APPEALS AND THE COST ATTACHED TO THEM.
IF IT WAS AN APPEAL THAT WILL THEN GO DOWN THAT ROAD OUT IT, I'LL LET US DELIBERATE THAT AT THAT POINT.
I KNOW STAFF GAVE SOME INPUT TO THE PROVINCE.
I KNOW THAT THEY WEREN'T LAX IN THAT AT ALL.
I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CEO AND THE CLERK ON IT, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT THIS MATTER BE BROUGHT TO THEM TO SHOW THE DETRIMENT TO THE BUDGET OF OUR MUNICIPALITY.
SO THIS IS THE BEST EXAMPLE OF WHY THEY NEED TO CHANGE THE ACT THAT WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO SAY WE CAN'T FORCE THEIR HAND TO MAKE THEM NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPEAL.
ALL WE CAN DO IS ASK THEM TO DO IT.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THE PROVINCE NEEDS TO HEAR FROM US THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IF THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS APPEAL.
THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PATRIE, I DON'T AT ALL DISAGREE WITH YOUR INTENT HERE.
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I'M VERY, VERY FEARFUL, THOUGH, THAT E4M AND OTHER INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER REGIMES DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THE MUNICIPALITY'S INPUT IN THESE AREAS, AND WE DO HAVE DEFINITELY LEGAL TEAMS TRYING TO MAKE A NAME FOR THEMSELVES SETTING NEW PRECEDENTS.BUT PERSONALLY, EVERY TIME WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN FRONT OF THE MINISTRY OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS, MINISTER CLARK, I HAVE ALREADY LOBBIED HIM AND I WILL CONTINUE TO LOBBY HIM ON BEHALF OF THE MUNICIPALITY ABOUT CHANGES, FAIR CHANGES TO THE ACT ITSELF AND HOW MUNICIPALITIES ARE TREATED IN THIS AREA.
BECAUSE AGAIN, ELLIOT LAKE, WE KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY HAS GONE OUT THE DOOR.
BUT IF THAT SAME MONEY WAS GOING OUT THE DOOR FOR, SAY, HERE ON SHORE AS A RIVER, THAT'S DEVASTATING.
THAT MEANS ROADS ARE NOT GETTING FIXED.
THAT MEANS THE BUILDING IS NOT GETTING FIXED.
IT IS DEVASTATING, ABSOLUTELY.
SO I HAVE NO DISAGREEMENT WITH WITH YOUR INTENT HERE.
I JUST I'M AFRAID THAT NOBODY'S GOING TO LISTEN AT THIS TIME, EXCEPT FOR POSSIBLY THE MINISTER.
COUNCILLOR CYR? THANK YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.
I HAVE THE SAME FEELINGS AS YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, I THINK.
PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE LEGAL GROUND TO GO TO TO INTERFERE WITH THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER.
I THINK OUR BONE TO PICK IS WITH THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT TO MAKE A BETTER SYSTEM AND IMPROVE THE SYSTEM.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE OUR ENERGY AND EFFORTS SHOULD BE DIRECTED, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE LEGAL GROUNDS TO INTERFERE IN ANY WAY PERSONALLY.
I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS ISN'T OUR PROCESS AND WE HAVE NO SAY IN WHAT HAPPENS.
I WAS SURPRISED THAT THEY LAUNCHED THIS APPEAL BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SEEM TO, THEY SEEMED VERY CAVALIER ABOUT THE THE INCIDENT.
WHEN THEY REPORTED IT TO US AT COUNCIL, THEY DIDN'T SEEM TO THINK IT WAS A BIG DEAL.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE APPEALING THE JUDGE'S DECISION.
I DON'T KNOW IF AT THIS POINT IF IT WOULD HURT TO ASK.
OH, I DON'T SEE WHAT HARM THAT WOULD BE AND ASKING THEM TO NOT DO THIS, AND I KNOW THAT WE WERE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A SURVEY WHICH I DID TAKE GREAT LENGTHS AT RESPONDING TO.
AND WE'VE YET TO SEE THE RESULTS OF THAT SURVEY COME FORWARD FROM ANYBODY, WHICH IS DISAPPOINTING.
BUT THERE WAS, THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD COME FORWARD FROM THEM AND HOPEFULLY CHANGES WILL HAPPEN.
BUT I THINK IF WE DON'T VOCALIZE HOW WE NEED A CHANGE IN EVERY WAY THAT WE CAN, AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'VE LOBBIED THEM, MR. MAYOR.
AND I HOPE THAT WE CONTINUE TO LOBBY THEM.
THERE WAS LETTERS OF SUPPORT THAT WERE SENT TO THIS COURT PROCESS ASKING FOR LENIENCY, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN SEND FORWARD FROM THE MUNICIPALITY TO THE APPELLATE COURT? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S MAYBE AN OPTION INSTEAD OF E4M, IF WE SEND FORWARD SOMETHING TO THE APPELLATE COURT AND VOCALIZING OUR CONCERNS.
I REALIZED THE LAW IS THE LAW, AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE THE WHAT THE PUNISHMENT IS OR THE CONSEQUENCES FOR SOMEONE'S ACTION, BUT I THINK THAT AT SOME POINT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY, SOMEONE HAS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE COST OF IT TO EVERYONE ELSE.
SO I'M, I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE SENDING SOMETHING ON TO THE APPELLATE COURT IF SENDING SOMETHING BEFORE, IT WON'T MATTER THAT MAYBE THE MUNICIPALITY CAN WRITE A LETTER TO THE APPELLATE COURT BECAUSE I JUST THINK IT'S REALLY OVERKILL.
MR. GAGNON? CAN YOU CLARIFY IF ANY CONTACT IF THEY'RE KEEPING ANY CONTACT WITH MS. [INAUDIBLE] THROUGH THIS PROCESS? WHAT YOU'RE HEARING ON YOUR END? UH, SURE.
IMPORTANT TO COUNCILLOR FINAMORE POINT, THERE'S ONLY TWO STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS.
IT'S THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER AND COUNCILLOR PEARCE.
WE HAVE NO STANDING, SO WE CAN'T GET TO THE APPELLATE COURT BECAUSE WE HAVE NO STANDING.
WE'RE JUST THE ONES UNFORTUNATELY PAYING FOR IT.
THAT'S JUST HOW THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER USUALLY WORKS.
TO CLARIFY FOR COUNCIL, THOUGH, THAT MOST OF THESE EXPENSES HAVE ALREADY BEEN INCURRED.
THE APPEAL IS COMING UP VERY SOON.
THE TIME FOR THIS TYPE OF MOTION WOULD HAVE BEEN MONTHS AGO WHEN COUNCIL WAS, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOBBY THE PROVINCE AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT REVIEW THAT WAS DONE IN THE SUMMER.
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OUR LEGAL OPINION IS WE ARE COMPLETELY POWERLESS TO HAVE ANYTHING UNDER THE CURRENT REGIME.WE CAN ABSOLUTELY LOBBY THE PROVINCE, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT IN THE SUMMER.
WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE.
I AM SPEAKING TO MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND HOUSING LATER THIS WEEK, AS I REFERRED TO EARLIER ON A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
OBVIOUSLY BE TALKING TO HIM ABOUT THIS AS WELL.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THE APPEAL ITSELF WILL NOT COST HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
THE APPEAL ITSELF IS TO BE HEARD VERY SOON.
MOST OF THE EXPENSES HAVE ALREADY BEEN INCURRED AND EXPENSED ALREADY, EXCEPT FOR THE ACTUAL DATE, WHICH ADMITTEDLY IS NOT GOING TO BE CHEAP FOR A COURT HEARING.
BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE IS SOMEWHAT MOOT BECAUSE THE EXPENSES HAVE ALREADY BEEN INCURRED.
COUNCILLOR MANN AND THEN BACK TO COUNCILLOR PATRIE.
WE'VE RECEIVED SEVERAL PIECES OF INFORMATION FROM MR. GAGNON.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE ARE NOT ABLE TO INTERFERE IN THIS PROCESS.
I THINK ANY CONTACT WITH THE IC WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF, CONSTRUED AS SOME TYPE OF INTERFERENCE.
I HAVE NO INTEREST IN TALKING ABOUT THE CASES THAT ARE BEFORE THE COURTS AT THIS POINT.
THE PROCESS, HOWEVER, AS COUNCILLOR FINAMORE HAD INDICATED, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ABSOLUTELY UP FOR DISCUSSION.
THIS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BECOME, I FEEL, AT LEAST, THIS COUNCIL HAS BECOME THE POSTER CHILD FOR HOW TO NOT EFFECTIVELY USE THE IC PROCESS AND WHAT'S HAPPENED WHERE THE ICS HAVE GONE OUT BEYOND THE MANDATE OF THE MUNICIPALITY CREATED THEIR OWN MANDATE.
I THINK THE ONLY PROCESS AND NOT THAT I'M SUGGESTING IT AT ALL.
THE ONLY THING THAT THIS MUNICIPALITY CAN DO IS WHEN WE RECEIVE INVOICES FROM THEIR E4M OR CASSELS BROCK NOT TO PAY THEM.
THAT'S I THINK, THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN DO.
I THINK TAKING A STAND, THAT'S HOW WE DO THAT.
AND AGAIN, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE MAJORITY OF IT'S BEEN ALREADY INVOICED.
WE CAN'T INTERVENE IN THE PROCESS.
WE CAN'T GO FORWARD TO THE COURTS.
WELL, THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING THAT WE DON'T WANT YOU TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE DON'T PAY OUR BILLS, BUT AT SOME POINT, SEVERAL MUNICIPALITIES ARE HAVING WE CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE HAVING A PROBLEM.
WE EMBRACED THE IC PROCESS VERY EARLY ON.
WE WERE PROACTIVE BY ALMOST TWO YEARS, I BELIEVE, BEFORE THE MANDATE, AND WE THOUGHT WE WERE DOING A GREAT SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, EXTRA TIME FOR EDUCATION AND IT TURNED OUT THE WAY IT DID.
AND WE ARE AS A GROUP, AS I SAID LAST WEEK, I THINK WE'RE STILL HEALING.
I THINK SOME OF THE WOUNDS MAY NOT HEAL FOR THIS GROUP, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE.
WE STILL HAVE TIME AS A GROUP TO CONTINUE TO DO MANY POSITIVE THINGS FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
I APPRECIATE IT COMING FORWARD.
I HOPE WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN.
I KNOW WE'RE CLEARLY GOING TO SEE IT IN CHECK RATES, BUT WE NEED TO MOVE ON.
AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THE VOLUME OF IC COMPLAINTS RECENTLY.
I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT AS A GOOD THING.
IN THE ASPECT OF INTERFERING WITH THE IC, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, I'M SORRY, I DON'T WANT TO CONTACT THE IC.
WE DO HAVE A LEGAL OPINION THAT SAYS THAT WE SHOULDN'T MEDDLE IN IT.
THE PROBLEM IS WE'VE ALREADY MEDDLED IN IT BY PROVIDING A LETTER FROM THE MUNICIPALITY TO THE FIRST JUDGE.
I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN A BAD ROAD.
I JUST I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO ENDORSE THE FACT THAT LET'S ASK THEM TO STOP IF THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPEAL ON THEIR EXPENSE.
MOVE FORWARD AT THEIR EXPENSE.
IT'S YES, IT'S THEM TRYING TO BUILD A NAME FOR THEMSELVES.
IF THEY WANT TO DO IT ON THEIR DIME, SO BE IT.
LET THEM MOVE FORWARD ON THEIR DIME, NOT AT OUR EXPENSE.
THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT WE ASK E4M TO EITHER WITHDRAW OR NOT CHARGE US FOR THAT.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A SLIGHT WORDING OR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT OR WORDING CHANGE, I'M FINE WITH THAT AS WELL.
AND AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE IT OFFICIAL FROM COUNCIL FOR MR. GAGNON.
THAT THERE'S A RESOLUTION OF COUNCIL WHEN HE'S SPEAKING WITH THE MINISTER TO ENDORSE.
WE NEED A CHANGE BECAUSE THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BILLING GET RECEIVING THAT BILLING.
AND I'M SORRY, MR. GAGNON, BUT TRUST ME, I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH TOO MANY FRICKIN LAWYERS ON TRIALS IN THE LAST DECADE, AND THE BULK OF YOUR BILLING COMES FROM THE LAST WEEKS OR MONTHS OF THE PROCESS WHERE YOU'RE PAYING 75 TO 80 PERCENT OF YOUR INVOICES ARE OFF OF THAT PORTION OF
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TIME.SO THERE IS GOING TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL BILL COMING FORWARD FOR THIS HEARING.
SO I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE COUNCIL TO ASK THEM TO STOP.
WE JUST, WE CAN'T AFFORD THIS, THE TAXPAYER SHOULDN'T BE PAYING THIS BILL ANY LONGER.
SO THAT'S JUST THE TWO THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE ON THAT MOTION.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WOULD LIKE IT.
COUNCILLOR TURNER? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO TELL THAT I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS MOTION.
WE HAVE A, IT APPEARS TO REVOLVE AROUND COUNCILLOR PEARCE, BUT IT ALSO REVOLVES AROUND COUNCILLOR PATRIE, POSSIBLY IN THE FUTURE.
AND I JUST WANT A THE IC IS AN INDEPENDENT BODY.
WE HAVE MADE OUR VIEWS KNOWN TO THE DEPUTY PREMIER.
WE RESPONDED TO THE SURVEYS AND SAID THAT PERHAPS THIS WASN'T ALL THAT WELL OR CONSIDERED THAT IT WOULD CAUSE FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS TO SMALL MUNICIPALITIES.
NOW WE HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE IF THE PROVINCE REACTS TO THE STATEMENTS GIVEN TO THEM BY MULTIPLE MUNICIPALITIES.
AND I THINK [INAUDIBLE] IS TAKING UP THE CROSS ON THIS ONE ALSO.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE ISSUE BEING RESOLVED.
BUT AS FOR THIS MOTION, JUST TOTALLY AGAINST IT, I AM VERY UNCOMFORTABLE THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING IT.
IF THIS DOESN'T GET PASSED, YOU'VE HEARD EVERYONE ON COUNCIL'S CONCERNS ARE SPEAKING WITH THE MINISTRY.
DO YOU THINK DIRECTION TO RAISE THE HARDSHIP ISSUE WITH THE MINISTRY MIGHT SUFFICE IF THIS MOTION DOES NOT GET APPROVED? I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION? I MEAN, DO I HAVE ENOUGH MANDATE TO COUNCIL TO EXPRESS OUR DISPLEASURE WITH THE MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS OF HOUSING? AND I JUST TO BE CLEAR, I'VE ALREADY YELLED FROM THE ROOFTOPS THAT MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS OF HOUSING.
I'VE RAILED AGAINST THIS ON YOUR BEHALF ALREADY.
IT'S FUTILE, UNTIL YOU GET THROUGH TO DOUG FORD.
BUT ABSOLUTELY, IF COUNCIL WANTS TO WRITE A LETTER E4M, SAYING PLEASE STOP.
I'M JUST SUGGESTING IT'S FUTILE AND WE HAVE NO STANDING.
AND NO, JUST SAY, YEAH, THANKS, WE'LL TAKE IT UNDER CONSIDERATION AND MOVE ON.
BUT I'VE ALREADY RAISED ALL THESE CONCERNS.
I HOPE YOU'VE ALL ALREADY RAISED THOSE CONCERNS WITH THE PROBLEMS THROUGH THEIR INTAKE.
THEY'RE DOING THEIR REVIEW AND THAT'S THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO.
WE HAVE TO PAY AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
LIKE, I LITERALLY LAID OUT A PLAN AS TO HOW THIS COULD WORK FOR EVERY MUNICIPALITY IN THE PROVINCE TO HAVE THE EXACT SAME CODE OF CONDUCT.
IC IS HAVING THE SAME MANDATE AND HOW IT COULD BE PROCESSED THROUGH THE PROVINCE ITSELF.
I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT WILL BE LISTENED TO ANY TIME SOON.
HEY, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
AND I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE STARTING COUNCILLOR MANN? OPPOSED.
COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? IN FAVOR.
I'M IN FAVOR, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S DEFEATED.
AND ANNOUNCEMENTS, THIS EVENING I AM GOING TO START OUT WITH A PROCLAMATION.
[13. COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS]
A FIRE PREVENTION WEEK 2021 PROCLAMATION.WHEREAS ELLIOT LAKE IS COMMITTED TO ENSURING THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF ALL THOSE LIVING AND VISITING ELLIOT LAKE.
AND WHEREAS FIRE IN A SERIOUS PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN BOTH LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY AND HOMES ARE THE LOCATIONS WHERE PEOPLE ARE AT GREATEST RISK FROM FIRE.
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AND WHEREAS SMOKE ALARMS DETECT SMOKE WELL BEFORE YOU CAN, ALERTING YOU TO DANGER IN THE EVENT OF A FIRE IN WHICH YOU MAY HAVE JUST SECONDS TO ESCAPE SAFELY.AND WHEREAS WORKING SMOKE ALARMS SAVE LIVES BY PROVIDING EARLY WARNING OF FIRES FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY CAN SAFELY ESCAPE.
AND WHEREAS ELLIOT LAKE RESIDENTS SHOULD BE SURE EVERYONE IN THE HOME UNDERSTANDS THE SOUNDS OF THE ALARMS AND KNOWS HOW TO RESPOND.
AND WHEREAS RESIDENTS WHO HAVE PLANNED AND PRACTICE A HOME FIRE ESCAPE PLAN ARE MORE PREPARED AND WILL THEREFORE BE MORE LIKELY TO SURVIVE A FIRE, WHEREAS ELLIOT LAKE RESIDENTS WILL MAKE SURE THEIR SMOKE AND CARBON MONOXIDE ALARMS MEET THE NEEDS OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, INCLUDING THOSE WITH SENSORY OR PHYSICAL DISABILITIES.
AND WHEREAS ELLIOT LAKE FIRST RESPONDERS ARE DEDICATED TO REDUCING THE OCCURRENCE OF HOME FIRES AND HOME FIRE INJURIES THROUGH PREVENTION OF PUBLIC FIRE SAFETY EDUCATION, WHEREAS ELLIOT LAKE RESIDENTS ARE RESPONSIVE TO PUBLIC EDUCATION MEASURES AND ARE ABLE TO TAKE PERSONAL STEPS TO INCREASE THEIR SAFETY FROM FIRE, ESPECIALLY IN THEIR HOMES.
AND WHEREAS THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE FIRE PREVENTION WEEK THEME LEARNED THE SOUNDS OF FIRE SAFETY EFFECTIVELY SERVED AND REMINDS US IT IS IMPORTANT TO LEARN THE DIFFERENT SOUNDS OF SMOKE AND CARBON MONOXIDE ALARMS. THEREFORE, I, DAN MARCHISELLA, MAYOR OF ELLIOT LAKE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 3RD-9TH, 2021 AS FIRE PREVENTION WEEK, AND I URGE ALL THE PEOPLE OF ELLIOT LAKE TO LEARN THE SOUNDS OF FIRE SAFETY AND TO SUPPORT THE MANY PUBLIC SAFETY ACTIVITIES AND EFFORTS OF ELLIOT LAKE FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES.
THAT WAS A LOT OF ANDS, AND WHEREASES.
FIRE SAFETY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
I THINK WE COULD HAVE ROUNDED THAT OFF TO TWO LINES, MS. BRAY.
SO THIS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH, IS THE NATIONAL DAY FOR TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION.
CITY HALL WILL BE CLOSED ALONG WITH SOME OF OUR FACILITIES.
THE NATIONAL DAY FOR TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE, YOU CAN GO ONLINE TO REPORT AT RTC.
TO READ THE INFORMATION AND THE TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION REPORT ITSELF.
OR THERE'S AN ACTUAL DOCU-SERIES ONLINE, WHICH IS FREE OF CHARGE.
YOU CAN GO TO THE UNFORGOTTEN.CMA.CA AGAIN, IT'S A SHORT DOCU-SERIES.
WE'LL HAVE LINKS AVAILABLE FOR MORE LEARNING EDUCATION FOR MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND POTENTIALLY FOR SCHOOLS LOOKING FOR MORE MATERIAL TO LOOK AT.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN OUR CHECK, RIGHT? IF MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE SOME EXCITING NEWS THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE.
NORM, HOW'S THE SKI HILL DOING? A LOT OF SNOW? THE BOARD IS MEETING, WE ARE PREPARING FOR A GREAT SEASON.
ANY ITEMS FOR COUNCIL FOR MR. GAGNON? JUST A GOOD NEWS STORY.
WE WERE SUCCESSFUL THANKS TO MR. ANTUNES APPLYING FOR A GRANT, SO WE WILL BE RECEIVING 36 THOUSAND DOLLARS TO HELP COVER SOME OF OUR TRANSLATION COSTS FOR OUR MUNICIPAL WEBSITE.
SO WE STRATEGICALLY STRUCTURED TO TIME THAT WELL, SO WE'VE JUST BEEN APPROVED.
IT WAS ANNOUNCED BY THE PROVINCE LAST WEEK, SO WE WILL BE MOVING AHEAD AND THAT THAT FUNDING WILL HELP US DO A BETTER JOB AND ROLL OUT THE MUNICIPAL WEBSITE COMPLETELY MIRRORED.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A GOOGLE TRANSLATE, IT'S AN ACTUAL TRANSLATED MIRRORED SITE LIKE YOU'D SEE IN THE CITY OF SUDBURY OR CORNWALL OR A LARGER CENTER, AND ALSO TRANSLATING THE LIBRARY PAGE AS WELL.
I THINK MR. ANTUNES FOR HELPING US WITH THAT GRANT, AND WE WILL WORK WITH SOME OF OUR LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS AT FO AND VFJ AND TRY TO HELP THE EDITING.
SOMETIMES WHEN TRANSLATORS DO THEIR WORK.
IT NEEDS A LITTLE POLISH TO MAKE IT MORE A LITTLE BIT MORE RECEIVABLE BY THE LOCAL PUBLIC AT A LEVEL THAT THEY UNDERSTAND.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS TO GET THAT DONE, AND WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THE WEBSITE ROLLED OUT BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, SO.
VERY PROGRESSIVE AND ANOTHER STEP IN BECOMING INCLUSIVE AND COMPLETELY BILINGUAL.
AND HERE I THOUGHT COUNCILLOR CYR WAS SPENDING ALL OF HIS SPARE TIME TRANSLATING THE WEB PAGE FOR US.
COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? JUST A QUESTION TO YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S BEEN ANY INVITATIONS EXTENDED FROM SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION OR FROM MISSISSAUGA FIRST NATION FOR
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THE DAY OF RECONCILIATION, IF THERE'S BEEN ANY INVITATIONS EXTENDED TO COUNCIL.TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO ATTEND ANY CEREMONIES? AND IF THERE IS, IF YOU COULD FORWARD THEM ON TO US, PLEASE? I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING MYSELF AT THIS TIME, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, BUT DEFINITELY IF I DO, I WILL FORWARD IT ON.
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CHIEF [INAUDIBLE] WILL BE MAKING A PRESENTATION ON RECONCILIATION TO THE ROTARY CLUB ON THURSDAY.
INTERESTING TOPIC RECONCILIATION THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE THE TOPIC WILL BE, BUT IT'S BY INVITATION ONLY.
ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR COUNCIL'S REPORT THIS EVENING? NOW GO ON TO THE BIG TICKET ITEMS. SEPTEMBER 16TH, THE ONE WE HAVE RECEIVED AT SEVENTY SIX THOUSAND.
AJ BUS LINES TRANSIT SERVICE AND CONNECTING LINK FOR NORTHLAND, THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED.
BEAMISH CONSTRUCTION, AUGUST LANDFILL, A LONDON SPRUCE AND WASHINGTON TWENTY SIX THOUSAND .
C MAX FIRE SOLUTIONS REPAIR PUMP TRUCK, FORTY ONE THOUSAND.
CORROSION ARMOR, CONCRETE REPAIR SEVENTY NINE THOUSAND.
GFL ENVIRONMENTAL CURBSIDE FRONT LOAD SEPTIC WASTE WATER FORTY ONE THOUSAND.
HOMER'S FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED.
THERE'S NO ADDENDUM THIS EVENING, INTRODUCTION, CONSIDERATION OF BYLAWS 15.1
[15. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF BY-LAWS]
BYLAW 21.83, BEING A [INAUDIBLE] AUTHORIZED THE ENTERING INTO THE CONTRACT FOR THE SUPPLY OF INSTALLATION OF NEW DEHUMIDIFIER FOR THE MUNICIPAL POOL.CAN I HAVE A MOTION? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? NONE.
I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.
AND EVERYONE'S LINED UP PERFECT AT THE MOMENT, THAT WAS AWESOME.
15.2, BYLAW 21-80 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE AND SALE BETWEEN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AND MICHAEL AND BEVERLY HUNTZBERGER FOR ADDITIONAL PROPERTY ON MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
AGAIN, ANY QUESTIONS, QUERIES? NONE.
ALL IN FAVOR? THAT HAS CARRIED ALSO, THANK YOU.
15.3 BYLAW 21-84 BEING A BAILOUT OR AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF THE TRANSFER PAYMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE COVID 19 RESILIENCE INFRASTRUCTURE STREAM LOCAL GOVERNMENT INTAKE MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR CYR.
AGAIN, ANY QUESTIONS, QUERIES? NONE.
THAT HAS CARRIED ALSO, THANK YOU.
I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS EVENING'S MEETING, MS. BRAY, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANYTHING? NO, YOUR WORSHIP.
[17. CLOSED SESSION (if applicable)]
AND 17, MOVING TO GO INTO A CLOSED SESSION, PLEASE.BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.
ROLL CALL FOR THIS ONE, COUNCILLOR CYR? I'M IN A CONFLICT WITH SO, NO.
COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? IN FAVOR.
COUNCILLOR PEARCE? IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR PATRIE? FAVOR.
AND I'M IN FAVOR THAT IS CARRIED.
SEE, ALL IN ABOUT 10 MINUTES, GIVE HIM TIME FOR WASHROOM BREAK.
AND THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR WATCHING THIS.
I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO COME OUT OF CLOSED SESSION.
BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE.
SHOULD HAVE STOPPED COMING OPEN SESSION EVENTUALLY.
18, CONFIRMATORY BYLAW 18.1, BYLAW 21-85.
[18. CONFIRMATORY BY-LAW]
BEING A BYLAW CONFIRMING THE PROCEEDINGS OF.COUNCIL AT ITS MEETING HELD SEPTEMBER 27TH, 2021.
BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE.
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QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? ROLL CALL, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? IN FAVOR.FOUR HOURS OF HOLLYWOOD SQUARES, AND NOBODY'S WON ANYTHING YET.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN, PLEASE.
BY COUNCILLOR MANN, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
AGAIN, THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
THANK YOU ALL THAT WATCHED TONIGHT.
HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.