Nov 22, 2021 City Council

WELCOME, CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER THIS REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING OF COUNCIL FOR THE CITY

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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AS ROLL CALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COUNCILLOR CYR.

UM, THIS TIME I'D ASK IF THERE'S ANY DECLARATIONS OR CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

ONCE, TWICE AND THREE TIMES NOT SEEING ANY.

[4. ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES]

CAN I HAVE A MOVER TO ADOPT THE MINUTES PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, ANY QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? SEEING, NONE I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE, ALL IN FAVOR, JUST RAISE YOUR HANDS.

SIMPLE. THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU. FIVE PUBLIC PRESENTATION FIVE POINT ONE PRESENTATION FROM THE CANADIAN GARDEN

[5. PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS]

EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

GOOD EVENING, MR. GAUTHIER.

GOOD EVENING. IT'S A PLEASURE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AS YOU KNOW, I WAS RAISED IN ELLIOT LAKE.

I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE REALIZE THAT SO AND I STILL HAVE MY TWO BROTHERS WORK FOR THE CITY. REG AND JACK IS STILL WORKING SHOP AND MY MOTHER IS AT YOUR OWN LODGE, SO I KEEP GOING BACK TO ELLIOT LAKE.

SO. SO IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT TO YOU AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CANADIAN GARDEN COUNCIL.

AND SO I WILL SHARE MY SCREEN, I SUPPOSE.

SURE. OK.

RIGHT THERE. AND.

OH, I THINK I HAVE TO IF I GO VIEW.

DO YOU SEE THIS OR DO WE FULL SCREEN IS THAT BETTER? OK? IS THAT BETTER? OK, SO SO.

SO WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE GARDEN? AND THE YEAR OF THE GARDEN IS A CELEBRATION OF THE CENTENNIAL OF THE ORNAMENTAL HORTICULTURAL SECTOR OF CANADA, AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS TO CELEBRATE CANADA'S RICH HORTICULTURAL GARDEN HERITAGE, CELEBRATE TODAY'S VIBRANT GARDEN CULTURE AND CREATE LEGACIES FOR A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE.

AND OF COURSE, WE WANT TO LIVE THE GARDEN LIFE, VIVRE LA VIE DE JARDIN.

AND SO HOW DOES THIS YEAR THE GARDEN COME ABOUT? WELL, BACK IN 2019, WE REALIZED THAT 2022 WAS GOING TO BE THE CENTENNIAL, SO WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT WHAT COULD WE DO TO CELEBRATE THIS? AND SO WE DID BUSINESS PLAN AND WE DID SOME FEASIBILITY STUDY AND WE REALIZED THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF SUPPORT CANADA WIDE TO CELEBRATE A YEAR OF THE GARDEN.

AND OF COURSE, WE STARTED THIS BEFORE COVID.

SO THEN WE STOPPED THE BIG COVID STOPPED US IN OUR TRACKS AND THEN WE REALIZED THAT WOW PEOPLE WENT TO GARDENING DURING COVID AND BIG TIME.

SO IN MARCH OF 22ND MARCH, 22ND 2021 IS WHEN, WITH THE SUPPORT OF CANADA'S GARDEN FINALLY THAT THE CANADIAN GARDEN COUNCIL PROCLAIMED 2022 THE YEAR OF THE GARDEN.

AND IN JUNE, ON JUNE 21ST, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZED 2022 WITH A HOUSE, A DECLARATION IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS, AND THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE YEAR THE GARDEN.

AND SO WHAT IS THE YEAR THE GARDEN? IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A NEW EVENT OR WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND DO ALL KINDS OF EVENTS OUT THERE. NO, IT'S REALLY A MARKETING AND COMMUNICATION PLATFORM.

AND AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS INVITE CANADIANS TO LIVE THE GARDEN LIFE.

WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS PROFILE ALL THE GOOD WORK THAT'S BEING DONE ALREADY BY ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE, LIKE THE ELLIOT LAKE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY AND CANADIANS AND GARDEN CENTERS. SO WHEN WE SAY THE GARDEN FAMILY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE INDUSTRY SIDE OF IT, THERE'S THE EXPERIENCE SIDE OF IT, THERE'S THE EDUCATION SIDE OF IT.

SO IT'S ALL OF THE GARDEN FAMILY.

EVERYBODY IS DOING SOME GREAT WORK AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE EVERYTHING THAT GARDENS AND GARDENING BRING US.

AND SO THE FOUNDING PARTNERS ARE THESE ORGANIZATIONS.

THEY WERE THERE FROM THE BEGINNING AND THEY ARE THEY SUPPORT US.

AND OUR CORPORATE FUNDING PARTNERS HAVE NOW MOVED ON TO BEING CORPORATE SPONSORS OF THE YEAR OF THE GARDEN. SO WHAT IS THE INVITATION TO ELLIOT LAKE AND MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS

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IT'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT, YOU KNOW, IS ABOUT BEAUTIFYING CITIES AND AND THERE'S A COMPETITION ITS CITIES AGAINST CITIES ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

BUT SO WITH THEM, AND IF I DON'T GET BACK, WHICH IS THE QUEBEC ORGANIZATION, WE ARE ASKING MUNICIPALITIES TO JOIN THE CELEBRATION AND TO PROCLAIM 2022 THE YEAR OF THE GARDEN TO COMMIT TO BEING A GARDEN FRIENDLY CITY AND TO CELEBRATE OUR NATIONAL GARDEN DAY, WHICH IS SATURDAY BEFORE FATHER'S DAY.

SO JUNE THE 18TH IN 2022.

AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT TORONTO WAS THE FIRST CITY TO DO IT.

IT TOOK US BY SURPRISE, BUT WE'RE HAPPY WITH THAT.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE ASKING HERE, WE'RE COMING AND SAYING, OH, CAN YOU GIVE US SOME MONEY? NO, WE'RE SAYING, CREATE A MINDSET, YOU KNOW, TO CELEBRATE YOUR GARDEN CULTURE AND TRADITIONS. AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT TO JOIN, YOU KNOW, CANADA'S YEAR OF THE GARDEN CELEBRATION? AND WE CERTAINLY HOPE YOU WOULD LIKE TO.

AND SO OUR INVITATION TO CANADIANS NOW AND TO YOUR CITIZEN IS TO PARTICIPATE, TO LIVE THAT GARDEN LIFE, LIVE THE GARDEN LIFE.

AND SO WE ARE PUTTING OUT A FEW CALLS TO ACTIONS.

AND THIS IS WHERE WE INVITE ELLIOT LAKE TO SAY, IF YOU PROCLAIM, THEN YOU SAY, LET'S ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS TO DO THIS.

AND SO ONE IS TO MAKE YOUR GARDEN A CELEBRATION GARDEN.

SO ENCOURAGING CANADIANS TO SIGN UP THEIR GARDEN AS A YEAR OF THE GARDEN CELEBRATION.

IT'S EASY, SIMPLE, BUT THEY'RE PART OF IT, AND THEY'LL GET A CERTIFICATE TO SAY, HEY, MY GARDEN WAS PART OF THE CELEBRATION AND AND MAYBE SOMEONE CAN PROVIDE THEM A SIGN TO PUT IN THEIR LAWN AND THEIR GARDEN, YOU KNOW, TO SAY, I'M PART OF IT.

THE OTHER ONE IS VISITOR GARDEN.

YOU KNOW, GARDEN TOURISM.

IT'S BIG. AND SO IF YOU HAVE A PUBLIC GARDEN, YOU HAVE A GARDEN THAT YOU'RE PROUD OF.

IS IT ON CANADA'S GARDEN ROUTE CANADA GARDEN? CANADA'S GARDEN ROUTE IS A PROMOTION WE HAVE, AND WE'D LOVE TO SEE A GARDEN FROM ELLIOT LAKE ON CANADA'S GARDEN ROUTE.

CELEBRATE YOUR HERITAGE AND IN TERMS OF ELLIOT LAKE, WHAT'S THERE? WHAT HAS BEEN THE HISTORY OF GARDEN DEVELOPMENT IN ELLIOT LAKE? ANOTHER CALL TO ACTION IS PLANT RED.

YES, LAST YEAR, COMMUNITIES IN BLOOM ENCOURAGED CANADIANS TO PLANT YELLOW THE HOPE GARDEN. THIS YEAR WE'RE SEEING PLANT RED PLANT SOMETHING RED SO THAT YOU CAN CELEBRATE YOUR CANADIAN GARDEN PRIDE.

AND SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO OFFER A LIST OF PLANTS SAY, HEY, WHY DON'T WE PLANT THESE? YOUR GARDEN CENTER CAN PARTICIPATE.

THE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY CAN PARTICIPATE.

CLIMATE ACTION GARDENS, WE KNOW THAT WE ARE FACING A CLIMATE ACTION CLIMATE CRISIS, AND SO CNLA, THE CANADIAN NURSERY, ARE DEVELOPING A CALCULATOR SO THAT CANADIANS WILL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THEIR GARDEN HAS.

SO INVITING CANADIANS TO TAKE THAT ON AND THEN INVITING CANADIANS TO BE VOLUNTEER IN THE GARDEN COMMUNITY.

THERE'S ALREADY, I'M TOLD, QUITE A FEW IN ELLIOT LAKE THAT ARE INVOLVED, AND THERE MIGHT BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE CANADIANS TO GET MORE CITIZENS OF ELLIOT LAKE TO GET INVOLVED.

HEALTH AND WELLBEING, WE KNOW THE BENEFITS THIS IS MORE IT'S PROVEN A MORE AND MORE AND DOCUMENTED AND SO WE DECIDED THAT FOR THE YEAR, THE GARDEN, EVERY WEEK WE'LL PUT OUT A GARDEN PRESCRIPTION AND SO WE'LL PUT IT OUT THERE ON OUR PLATFORM.

YOU CAN SHARE IT AND LET'S SEE HOW WE CAN HAVE AN IMPACT AND HOW CANADIANS CAN REALIZE THAT GARDENING IS GOOD FOR THEIR HEALTH AND GARDENS AS WELL.

UH, LEGACY.

WE'D LOVE TO SEE A GARDEN IN EVERY SCHOOL, AND I WENT TO [INAUDIBLE] AND A YEAR IN LOOK, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S A GARDEN AT [INAUDIBLE], BUT YOU KNOW, ARE THERE GARDENS? AND I CALL THAT GARDEN EXPERIENCE, NOT JUST THE GARDEN IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL THAT THE LANDSCAPER GOES IN, BUT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CHILDREN TO INTERACT WITH GARDEN.

THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO SEE HAPPENING COAST TO COAST ON THIS.

CANADIAN GARDEN HEROES.

THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT I LOVE.

THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IN EVERY GARDEN ORGANIZATION.

AND I'M SURE THAT AT THE ELLIOT LAKE BOARD SOCIETY, THERE'S A VOLUNTEER THERE THAT GIVES SO MUCH. AND I DON'T KNOW, COUNCILLOR PEARCE IS A GARDENER.

MAYBE HE'S ONE OF THOSE INVOLVED, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE THESE PEOPLE.

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AND MAYBE ON JUNE THE 18TH NATIONAL GARDEN DAY ELLIOT LAKE CAN CELEBRATE THESE GARDEN HEROES. MAYBE THEY COULD BE A FLAG RAISING CEREMONY WHERE YOU SAY THANK YOU TO THESE VOLUNTEERS THAT DO SO MUCH WORK TO MAKE YOUR CITY BEAUTIFUL AND TO ADD TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE. AND ANOTHER LEGACY WE'D LIKE TO CREATE A GARDEN HALL OF FAME.

AND SO THE FIRST STEP WE'RE GOING TO DO IS DURING THE YEAR THE GARDEN.

WE WANT TO CREATE CANADA'S 100 GARDEN MOMENTS.

WE WANT TO DOCUMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE THE PEOPLE OR WHAT ARE THE EVENTS THAT HAVE MARKED OUR HORTICULTURAL HERITAGE IN OUR GARDEN HERITAGE.

AND SO IF WE HAVE CANADA'S 100 GARDEN MOMENT THAT WE CAN SHARE AND EDUCATE PEOPLE, THEN AND THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE GARDEN HALL OF FAME.

SO AS I SAID, WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO LIVE THE GARDEN LIFE.

SO ON OUR WEBSITE, WE WILL CREATE THE LIVE THE GARDEN LIFE AGENDA WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND FIND OUT HOW THEY CAN GET INVOLVED, WHAT'S BEING OFFERED.

SO IF YOU HAVE ACTIVITIES, IF YOUR GROUPS HAVE ACTIVITIES, THEY CAN PUT THEM ON THE LIVE THE GARDEN LIFE AGENDA AND THEY CAN USE THE BRAND, YOU KNOW, YEAR THE YEAR OF THE GARDEN.

AND SO THE YEAR OF THE GARDEN STARTS NOW, OK? AND YES, IT WILL GROW AND IT WILL DEVELOP AS WE AS.

AND OF COURSE, THE GARDEN SEASON IS REALLY NEXT APRIL, MAY, JUNE AND THROUGH THE SUMMER.

BUT WE NEED TO START NOW AND WE'RE PLANNING.

AND SO OUR INVITATION TO ELLIOT LAKE TONIGHT IS TO JOIN THE GARDEN FAMILY AND ENGAGE WITH THE YEAR OF THE GARDEN AND SHARE YOUR GARDEN CULTURE.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS YOU CAN PROCLAIM 2022 THE YEAR OF THE GARDEN.

YOU CAN CELEBRATE OUR NATIONAL GARDEN DAY AND GARDEN DAYS, AND YOU CAN COMMIT TO BEING A GARDEN FRIENDLY CITY.

AND THIS WILL ENCOURAGE YOUR RESIDENTS ELLIOT LAKERS TO LIVE THE GARDEN LIFE: VIVRE LA VIE DE JARDIN, DURING THE YEAR OF THE GARDEN 2022, AND I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF BEING THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THIS CANADIAN GARDEN COUNCIL AND WITH OUR TEAM, WE HAVE DEVELOPED THIS. WE HAVE A WEBSITE RIGHT NOW THAT IS MORE FOCUSED TO THE GARDEN FAMILY.

BUT IN DECEMBER, OUR CONSUMER WEBSITE WILL BE GOING LIVE.

AND IF YOU PROCLAIM THE YEAR OF THE GARDEN, WE CERTAINLY WE'D LOVE TO GET A COPY OF YOUR PROCLAMATION AND THEN WE WILL BE IN TOUCH AND WE WILL PROVIDE INFORMATION ON AN ONGOING BASIS AS WE DEVELOP THIS.

SO THAT IS MY PRESENTATION IN A NUTSHELL, IN A QUICK PRESENTATION, THE ELEVATOR PITCH OF IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. GAUTHIER FOR THE PRESENTATION.

VERY EXCITING. YOU ACTUALLY ANSWERED THE QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU.

I WAS GOING TO ASK, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY STAYS INVOLVED AND GETS THE UPDATES AND MEMBERS CAN CONTACT YOU, YOU ANSWERED THAT.

I DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION PREPARED.

I WILL SAY A LOT OF COMMENTS OVER OVER THE YEARS ELLIOT LAKE BECOME MORE AND MORE BEAUTIFUL EVERY YEAR.

WE HAVE GARDENS, RIGHT AS YOU COME INTO THE COMMUNITY RIGHT AT OUR ENTRANCE SIGN THROUGH THE URANIUM MONUMENT, RETIREMENT LIVING HAS BEAUTIFUL SET UP STRETCHING ACROSS IN FRONT OF THE HAMPTON THEIR BUILDINGS GOES RIGHT THROUGH TO WESTVIEW PARK.

THE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY DOES A BEAUTIFUL JOB AT THE WESTVIEW PARK AND THE AREAS [INAUDIBLE] TOWER.

I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT EVERY ADDITION ADDS TO NOT JUST THE COMMUNITY BEAUTIFICATION, BUT THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF ALL OUR RESIDENTS.

YES, DEFINITELY PROVEN THAT THAT GARDENING IS HEALTHY FOR YOU.

YES, DEFINITELY.

AND IN FACT, I MADE A COMMENT THE OTHER DAY ABOUT HOW YOUR FLORAL BASKETS WERE SO BEAUTIFUL. YOU KNOW, WHEN I WENT THIS SUMMER TO VISIT, I WAS LIKE, OH, WOW, LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, I WAS EVEN SURPRISED, I HAVE TO SAY, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN QUITE A FEW, BUT YOURS WERE VERY BEAUTIFUL.

GOOD. IF WE CAN HAVE THE SCREEN BACK THEN, I CAN ASK MEMBERS OF COUNCIL SPEAKERS] ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AND I WILL STOP SHARING.

THERE YOU GO. SO REMEMBER THE COUNCIL BEFORE I READ OFF THE PROCLAMATION, I GOT HANDS ALL OVER. SO COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

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WELCOME BACK. I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT THAT MORE PEOPLE EMBRACE BEING OUTSIDE IN THEIR OWN YARDS AND BEAUTIFYING THEIR OWN PROPERTIES THIS YEAR AS THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO LEAVE THEM FOR MOST PART OF THE YEAR.

YES, INCLUDING THREE OF MY CHILDREN GOT INTO THEIR ITALIAN HERITAGE AND REALLY GOT INTO GARDENING FOLLOWING FOLLOWING THEIR FATHER'S FOOTSTEPS.

SO I REALLY, REALLY AM VERY HAPPY YOU BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, AND I WANT TO CHALLENGE ALL THOSE BACKYARD GARDENERS TO GET MORE INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY.

WITH THE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY.

I'M SURE THEY COULD USE YOUR THEIR HELP BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF PLACES IN TOWN.

I'M GOING TO DIRECTLY CHALLENGE TRACY CALHOUN TO SHOW THE REST OF ELLIOT LAKE HER BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL WORK THIS SUMMER.

SHE CARRIED IT UP OVER THE FENCE INTO THE DITCH ON HIGHWAY 108, AND IT WAS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL TO SEE HER MAKE THAT PART OF THE HIGHWAY EVEN OR MAKE IT REALLY NICE.

I KNOW MR. JIM, MAN, I JUST LOST HIS LAST NAME.

THAT'S TERRIBLE. HE SPENDS ALL HIS TIME CLEANING THE GARBAGE OFF THE HIGHWAY, AND SHE DECIDED TO HELP MAKE HELP THEM MAKE IT MORE BEAUTIFUL.

SO I REALLY AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS AND TO ENCOURAGE ALL ELLIOT LAKERS TO GET INVOLVED IN KEN, I THINK SINCE YOUR THE FLOWER GUY TO MAKE SURE YOU CHECK OUT ALL THE RED FLOWERS YOU CAN FOR AROUND THE CITY NEXT YEAR.

OH, THANK YOU COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. GAUTHIER. YOU WERE OBVIOUSLY TALKING WITH MR. ANTUNES. YES, I AM A GARDENER.

IT'S ONE OF THE PLACES THAT I FIND A GREAT SENSE OF SATISFACTION AND IT'S BEEN A BIT OF A REFUGE. YEAH, FRANKLY, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO KINDS OF GARDENS.

WE HAVE AN ORNAMENTAL GARDEN, BUT WE ALSO HAVE VEGETABLE GARDENS.

WE HAVE FOUR STANDING VEGETABLE GARDENS, BUT I'M NOT AS GOOD A GARDENER AS MY FATHER.

HE COULD TURN A COW PASTURE INTO A BEAUTIFUL GARDEN, AND I HAVE TO WORK VERY, VERY HARD TO MAKE MY YARD LOOK NICE.

I CAN ALSO THINK OF A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY WHO WOULD BE VERY MUCH DESERVING OF AN AWARD. PEOPLE WHO WORK VERY, VERY HARD IN THE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY OVER THE YEARS, AND I APPLAUD THIS.

THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION.

AND I'M SURE THAT ALL CITY COUNCIL WILL ENDORSE MAKING SURE THAT NOT ONLY DO WE ENDORSE THE THE PROCLAMATION, BUT WE'LL BE OUT THERE TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT IT.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

WELL, THANK YOU. IT'S VERY ENCOURAGING.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S SO MANY BENEFITS AROUND GARDENING AND GARDENS.

AND SO THE IDEA OF THIS YEAR IS TO SHOWCASE THAT AND TO PUT IT OUT THERE AND GET PEOPLE TO LIVE THAT GARDEN LIFE, WHICH IS A GREAT LIFE.

THE ONE YOU'RE LIVING.

YES, IT IS. THANK YOU.

COUNCILLOR CYR.

[INAUDIBLE] I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

OH, OK, OK. COUNCILLOR PATRIE, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, MICHEL.

COULD YOU JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE MEMBERS AT LARGE.

HOW DO THEY REGISTER? IT'S NOT IN YOUR PRESENTATION SO THAT WE COULD.

THERE ARE AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT I'M SURE WOULD.

OK. SO BASICALLY, AS I SAID, ONCE THE PUBLIC WEBSITE GOES UP, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A WEBSITE WHICH IS REALLY THERE'S A ONE PAGE INFORMATION AND [INAUDIBLE].

HOPEFULLY, HE COMES BACK.

HE DID SAY DECEMBER THAT PAGE WAS GOING LIVE FOR THE PUBLIC, IS FOR THE PUBLIC SIDE UNFORTUNATELY, THEY CAN'T REGISTER RIGHT AWAY, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY LIKE WE ARE WORKING LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, WITH THE ONTARIO HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY, WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BECOME A GARDEN FAMILY PARTNER AND THEY WILL PROMOTE TO ALL THEIR ORGANIZATIONS.

AND SO WE ARE GOING THROUGH PROVINCIAL AND FEDERAL ORGANIZATIONS TO PROMOTE THIS ALSO SO THAT THE INFORMATION WILL GET OUT THERE.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE FOLLOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MICHELE.

YOU FROZE. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT.

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BUT IF PEOPLE WANT TO RECORD IT NOW, WHERE WILL THEY HAVE, WHAT WEBSITE WOULD THEY HAVE TO GO TO TO REGISTER? YEAR OF THE GARDEN DOSSIER.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

PERHAPS, MR. GAUTHIER ONCE THE CITY SENDS YOU OUR PROCLAMATION, MAYBE WHEN THAT GOES LIVE, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEND US A LINK THAT STAFF CAN PUT ON OUR WEBSITE AS A QUICK LINK. YEAH, DEFINITELY.

AND WHAT I WOULD ASK IS FOR YOU TO IDENTIFY THE POINT PERSON.

AND SO WE DO HAVE A GARDEN FAMILY NEWSLETTER.

AND SO WE WILL ADD THAT PERSON SO THAT YOU GET AN ONGOING INFORMATION AS AS A MUNICIPAL, AS A MUNICIPALITY.

AND THEN THAT WILL TELL US THAT WILL TELL YOU WHEN THAT THE WEBSITE IS LIVE AND THEN YOU CAN START PROMOTING IT.

DEFINITELY. WE'D LOVE TO SEE THE YEAR OF THE GARDEN LOGO ON YOUR WEBSITE.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT ONCE WE HAVE THE PROCLAMATION.

OK, BEAUTIFUL. SO PERHAPS MR. ANTUNES MIGHT BE MIGHT BE THE STAFF LEAD ON THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW HE LIKES TO DO MORE AND MORE ALL THE TIME. OK.

COUNCILLOR MANN, YOU HAD A QUESTION COMMENT.

I DID THANK YOUR WORSHIP MR. GAUTHIER AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE A BIT OF A SNEAK PEEK ABOUT THIS PROJECT EARLIER THIS SUMMER, WHEN I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO HIM WHILE HE WAS IN THE COMMUNITY.

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT AND NOT ONLY, AS YOU HAD INDICATED, THE THERAPEUTIC BENEFITS FOR THE YOUTH, BUT ALSO THE ELDERLY AS WELL.

AND THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE WILL DEFINITELY TRY TO GROW THE CITY READ NEXT YEAR.

SO AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU. AND COUNCILLOR TURNER, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M LOOKING AT THE GARDEN BEHIND YOU THERE AND IT DOESN'T LOOK SO HAPPY.

I JUST WANTED TO PASS ON THAT WINTER IS COMING.

YES, THAT'S FOR THE MAYOR'S BENEFIT.

MS. GAUTHIER, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR YOUR LITTLE PRESENTATION.

AND IT TOUCHES HOME WITH ME THERE'S SOME WONDERFUL GARDENS IN THE CITY AND WISH WE COULD SEE MORE IN OUR PARKS.

WE HAVE SOME PARTS THAT ARE SORELY LACKING THE IDEA OF A FLOWER, AN ATTRACTIVE PLANT.

AND ON THE OTHER END, WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE WEST VIEW PARK, WHERE HORTICULTURAL MEMBERS CREATED SOME JUST GORGEOUS, GORGEOUS SETTINGS.

SO THANKS AGAIN.

YES, WE SHOULD PUT THAT ONE ON CANADA'S GARDEN ROUTE, YOU KNOW, FORWARD THAT INFORMATION ALSO TO YOU SO THAT YOU HAVE A DOT THERE AND SOME INFORMATION.

AND YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT GARDEN GARDENS AND GARDENING, YOU KNOW, IS CHANGING WITH EVERY GENERATION.

AND I HEARD ABOUT THE ITALIAN GARDEN AND, YOU KNOW, EVERY WAVE OF IMMIGRATION BROUGHT IN THEIR TRADITIONS WITH GARDENS AND AND SO THE GARDENING THAT WE HAVE TODAY IS NOT WHAT MY GRANDMOTHER USED TO DO, AND IT'S NOT WHAT I DID.

AND AND YOUNG PEOPLE ARE TURNING TO GARDEN.

WE DID SOME RESEARCH, YOU KNOW, AND AND YOUNG PEOPLE ARE TURNING, BUT NOT FOR THE REASONS WE WERE THERE OR WE ARE THERE, BUT EITHER FROM AN ENVIRONMENT, THE FOOD, THE QUALITY OF FOOD. SO THERE'S LOTS OF TRANSFORMATION AND THAT'S BEAUTIFUL AND WE JUST NEED TO ENCOURAGE THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

GREAT, GOOD STUFF, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'LL READ THE PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS THE YEAR OF THE GARDEN 2022 CELEBRATES THE CENTENNIAL OF CANADA'S HORTICULTURAL SECTOR AS GARDENS AND GARDENING CONTRIBUTE TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR MUNICIPALITY, CREATE SAFE AND HEALTHY PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME TOGETHER.

WHEREAS THE YEAR OF THE GARDEN 2022 WILL HIGHLIGHT AND CELEBRATE THE IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTION OF GARDENERS, LOCAL GARDENING ORGANIZATIONS, HORTICULTURAL PROFESSIONALS AND LOCAL HORTICULTURAL BUSINESSES WHICH CONTRIBUTE TO GARDEN CULTURE AND THE EXPERIENCE GARDEN OF OUR MUNICIPALITY.

WHEREAS GARDENS AND GARDENING HAVE HELPED US FACE THE CHALLENGES OF THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC. WHEREAS COMMUNITIES IN BLOOM, IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CANADIAN GARDEN COUNCIL INVITES ALL MUNICIPALITIES TO CELEBRATE THE YEAR OF THE GARDEN.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE HEREBY PROCLAIMS 2022 AS THE YEAR OF THE GARDEN IN CELEBRATION OF THE CONTRIBUTION OF GARDENING AND GARDENING TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR COUNTRY, OUR MUNICIPALITY AND THE LIVES OF OUR CITIZENS IN TERMS OF HEALTH, QUALITY OF LIFE AND ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES, AND THAT THE SATURDAY BEFORE FATHER'S DAY, JUNE 18 2022 BE RECOGNIZED AS GARDEN DAY ELLIOT LAKE AS A LEGACY OF

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GOOD.

THANKS. MY WIFE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH THAT.

OKAY, EVERYBODY'S HAPPY THEN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING A CHEERFUL NOTE TO OUR COUNCIL THIS EVENING.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

OK. WE CAN MOVE RIGHT TO ADJOURNMENT, RIGHT? SEE A BUNCH OF SMILES, OK. SIX, INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS.

[6. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS]

WHEREAS THE SSM INNOVATION CENTER, ACORN IS A NONPROFIT CORPORATION IDEALLY SUITED AND EXPERIENCED WITH LAUNCHING AND MANAGING GIS DATA AND PROGRAMS IN NORTHERN ONTARIO, WHEREAS THE CITY'S PROCUREMENT POLICY BYLAW ALLOWS FOR SINGLE SOURCING WHEN MARKET CONDITIONS WARRANT. THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, DATED NOVEMBER 10TH 2021 BE RECEIVED FROM THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE USE OF THE NEGOTIATION METHOD SECTION G OF THE CITY PROCUREMENT POLICY.

THE SOLE SOURCE THE GIS SOLUTION PROJECT.

ACORN INFORMATION SOLUTIONS, IN THE AMOUNT OF $257,961.11 AND THEY'D BE REQUIRED TO HAVE MUNICIPAL FUNDS OF $90,286.39 BE TAKEN FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RESERVE IN $40,407 AND THE IT RESERVE $49,879.39.

HAVE A MOVER PLEASE.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR CYR.

GOOD EVENING, MS. SCOTT. GOOD EVENING.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU REALLY WANT IF YOU WANT ME TO READ THROUGH THIS, BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD SHORTEN IT JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO THE MARCH 22ND AND OCTOBER 25TH MEETINGS WHERE WE APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED FUNDING THROUGH THE MUNICIPAL MODERNIZATION GRANT.

WE REALIZED THAT THE PROJECT NEEDED WAS NEEDED TO BE MOVED FORWARD QUICKLY BECAUSE WE WE HAVE A CLOSING DATE OF THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

THE GRANT OFFERS 65 PERCENT MONEYS TOWARDS THE PROJECT, AND THE AMOUNT QUOTED BY ACORN INFORMATION SOLUTIONS WAS $257,961.11.

SO BASED ON THAT FUNDING AMOUNT WOULD RESULT IN THE COST OF THE MUNICIPALITY OF $90,286.39. AND YOU PREVIOUSLY WENT THROUGH THE BREAKDOWN OF THE TWO RESERVES.

UM, ACORN IS THE ONLY COMPANY AS COMPANY LOCATED IN NORTHERN ONTARIO AND IS.

GLOBALLY RECOGNIZED, THEY'RE OUR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, AND THEY WORK WITH EXISTING PARTNERS AND HAVE STRONG BELIEFS AND PARTNERSHIPS.

THE OTHER ISSUE WAS TIMING.

LIKE I SAID, WE ONLY HAVE UNTIL THE END OF SEPTEMBER OF 2022 TO GET THIS COMPLETE.

ORIGINALLY, THIS PROJECT WOULD HAVE TAKEN OVER A YEAR.

WE'VE ALREADY WORKED WITH ACORN AND WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT THEY CAN GET IT DONE FOR US IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOU, MS. SCOTT, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

GOING THROUGH SOME FURTHER COMMENTARY IN YOUR REPORT, YOU'RE RIGHT.

OBVIOUSLY, LOCATION HAVING THEM IN THE SAME AREAS OF ABSOLUTE BENEFIT TO US HERE IN ELLIOT LAKE. AND AGAIN, BEING THAT THEY'RE A NOT FOR PROFIT AGAIN, I SEE SOME OTHER ADDITIONAL VALUE TO THAT AS WELL.

SO HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS THIS EVENING AND CLEARLY RECEIVING 65 PERCENT GRANT FUNDING DOESN'T HURT AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.

NICE TO SEE THIS GETTING DONE.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE HAVE TIME CONSTRAINTS ON IT.

THEREFORE, I WOULDN'T BE ASKING FOR THIS TO GO TO TENDER BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TIME TO DO IT. BUT I DON'T AGREE WITH SINGLE SOURCING IT.

I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE NEGOTIATION METHOD I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER BUSINESSES AVAILABLE TO DO THIS.

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SO I WOULD MUCH PREFER THAT WE AT LEAST ATTEMPTED TO GET SOME OTHER PRICING AND SOME OTHER QUOTATIONS INSTEAD OF JUST SINGLE SOURCING SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF DOING IT THIS WAY.

OTHER QUESTIONS OF MS. SCOTT. I BELIEVE WE'D HAVE TIME TO DO OTHER SOURCING, AND THERE ARE NO OTHER NORTHERN ONTARIO GROUPS THAT CAN PROVIDE THIS TYPE OF SERVICE TO US AT THIS TIME.

OK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'M VERY, VERY EXCITED TO SEE THIS MOVE FORWARD.

IT'S GOING TO DEFINITELY ASSIST STAFF AND OUR COMMUNITY IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS PUT ON OUR STRATEGIC PLAN SEVEN YEARS AGO, AND COUNCIL WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE, SUPPORTIVE OF IT THEN, AND I'M SO GLAD THAT IT'S COMING TO FRUITION.

IT SUCKS THAT WE HAVE SUCH A SHORT TIME FRAME, BUT AGAIN, I HAVE A LOT OF FAITH THAT THIS IS GOING TO ROLL OUT JUST BEAUTIFULLY.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR WORK MS. SCOTT ON THIS AND THAT, I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE AND I'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE. AS WRITTEN, OPPOSED.

COUNCILLOR CYR IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR MANN IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR PEARCE IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR TURNER FAVOR, I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU AGAIN, MS. SCOTT.

OK. SIX POINT TWO REPORT OF THE INTERIM MANAGER, RECREATION AND CULTURE 2021 CIVIC AWARD RECIPIENT.

AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH PERSONAL MATTERS ABOUT AN IDENTIFIABLE INDIVIDUAL, IT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION AS PER SECTION 239(2)(B) OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT.

THIS IS A MAY AND IF COUNCIL WISHES JUST LOOKING AT THE REPORT, WE CAN PROBABLY TAKE CARE OF THE RECOMMENDATION IN OPEN SESSION, BUT I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU.

SO WE CAN GO IN CLOSED SESSION [INAUDIBLE].

COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. [INAUDIBLE] GO IN CLOSED SESSION.

SECONDER TO GO IN CLOSED SESSION? COUNCILLOR MANN.

QUESTIONS QUALMS QUERIES.

NO CALL FOR THE VOTE, THEN TO PUT THIS IN A CLOSED SESSION.

SHOW OF HANDS ALL IN FAVOR.

CLOSED SESSION IT IS.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

SECONDER. I'LL SECOND FOR DISCUSSION, MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN FOR DISCUSSION.

MR. GAGNON, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

AS THE REPORT OUTLINES, HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE LAST BIT OF ENGINEERING WORK NEEDED BEFORE COUNCIL CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE HUB CONCEPT FOR YEARS, DECADES, DEPENDING HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.

WE HAD A TOWN HALL IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.

WE PRESENTED THE COUNCIL AND WE'RE LOOKING TO THIS FINAL SCOPE OF WORK FOR IDEA ARCHITECTS WITH SOME ENGINEERING TO REALLY PUT TOGETHER THE APPLES-TO-APPLES COMPARISONS THAT COUNCIL IS GOING TO NEED.

IF YOU RECALL, WE LOOKED AT THE MULTIPURPOSE HUB IN A TRADITIONAL CONSTRUCTION FORMAT, WHICH WAS $29 MILLION.

WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF GRANT OPPORTUNITY AT THE MOMENT, SO WE LOOKED AT OTHER TYPES OF BUILDING MATERIALS OR BUILDING PROCESSES FOR THE PRE ENGINEERED PREFABRICATED BUILDINGS.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY IN-HOUSE TO PICK UP THE PHONE TO ALL THOSE POTENTIAL VENDORS AND TALK TO THEM AND WORK THROUGH THE INNER WORKINGS BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THE SALES PITCH FROM ALL THESE COMPANIES.

WE DON'T HAVE THE CREDIBILITY, THE KNOWHOW IN THE INDUSTRY TO BE ABLE TO QUESTION APPROPRIATELY TO GET APPLES TO APPLES AND PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER.

WHEREAS IDEA ARCHITECTS WE'VE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST WE'LL BE ABLE TO PULL THAT TOGETHER AND ALSO DO A BIT OF A 3D MODEL AND EXPLAIN BETTER, EXPLAIN TO COUNCIL WHAT CONSTRAINTS THERE MAY BE IN ALL OF THESE BUILDING MODELS.

SOME OF THE FORMATS WILL REQUIRE SOME COMPROMISE OR [INAUDIBLE] SOME CONCERNS, AND

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SO THE REPORT ALWAYS HAD A LITTLE BIT IDEA WE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST, AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE US A REALLY GOOD COMPARISON THAT WILL GIVE COUNCIL THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO MAKE THIS FINAL DECISION AS TO WHAT STEPS YOU WANT TO DIRECT US TO KEEP PURSUING WHEN IT COMES TO THE POOL, THE ARENA AND THE WALKING TRACK.

I MEAN, OF COURSE, MR. ANTUNES CAN HELP ME IF I NEED ANY QUESTIONS MAY HAVE.

AND THANK YOU, MR. GAGNON, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE WITH SPENDING $30000 IN ORDER TO GET SOME OF THIS INFORMATION AS FAR AS I WAS CONCERNED.

YOU KNOW, TOM, THERE SPRUNG HAS BEEN VERY GOOD AT PROVIDING INFORMATION.

AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE OTHER HAND, WE HAVE RAFI FROM OLYMPIC THAT GIVES YOU THE YESES AND THEN DOESN'T SEND YOU ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN ONGOING FOR YEARS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY QUITE A FEW MORE PLAYERS OUT THERE NOW THAT ARE IN THIS INDUSTRY.

IT'S ACTUALLY IN NORTH AMERICA QUITE A BIT.

AND YOUR EXPLANATION EARLIER KIND OF EASED ME WAS NOT JUST CALLING AND GETTING GETTING THE QUOTATIONS. THERE'S A BULK OF INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE COMPILED FROM EACH ONE OF THE COMPANIES IN ORDER TO BRING US SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE NOT JUST FOR ELLIOT LAKE, BUT FOR NORTHERN ONTARIO.

BUILD THAT STAFF REALLY CAN'T GET ACCURATELY BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING THE SALES PITCH ALL THE WAY AROUND AND YOU DON'T KNOW THE ENGINEERING QUESTIONS TO ASK.

SO I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION HERE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

I KNOW COUNCILLOR PATRIE HAD HIS HAND UP.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF SPENDING $30,000.

I WAS IN ATTENDANCE AT THAT LAST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, AND THERE WERE REQUESTS OF.

COUNCILLORS FOR FURTHER INFORMATION TO COME FORWARD BEFORE THIS REQUEST CAME FORWARD THAT WE HAVE YET TO RECEIVE.

THERE'S DEMOLITION COSTS, THERE'S INFORMATION ABOUT THE GROUND FOOTPRINT OF 151 ONTARIO.

THERE WERE SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WE HAD REQUESTED AT THAT POINT.

THIS I EXPECTED THAT THERE'D BE AN OUTCOME FROM THAT TO COME TO COUNCIL TO GET COUNCIL'S APPROVAL, TO MOVE FORWARD SO THAT STAFF ISN'T TAKING DIRECTION FROM AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.

BUT THE REPORT SAYS THAT IT IS MOVING FORWARD BASED ON THE REQUESTS OF THE COMMITTEE.

I JUST I'M NOT WILLING TO SPEND ANY MONEY AT THIS POINT UNTIL WE GET WHAT WAS ASKED FOR IT THAT SEPTEMBER MEETING. THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF COSTS THAT WE CAN FIND OUT IN HOUSE TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE HAVE ROUGH NUMBERS ON [INAUDIBLE] BUILDINGS CLOSE ENOUGH TO GIVE US AN IDEA OF COSTING TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SPEND MONEY.

I THINK WE SPEND ENOUGH MONEY WITHOUT GETTING FULL INFORMATION AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

MR. GAGNON, THE INCLUSION OF, AS COUNCILLOR PATRIE MENTIONED, THERE WAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT INFORMATION REQUESTED AT THAT TIME, INCLUDING UPDATED ACCURATE INFORMATION ON THE PRE-FAB. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IDEA'S GOING TO PUT TOGETHER ALSO, OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEING DONE IN HOUSE? UM, I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE NOTES.

I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE I HEARD DEMOLITION COSTS, SO THAT'S A FAIR POINT.

WE CAN GET SOME BALLPARK ON DEMOLITION OF THE POOL AND THE ARENA.

BUT AGAIN, WE STILL HAVE THE CONTINUAL CHICKEN OR THE EGG SCENARIOS, INCLUDING WITH THE FOOTPRINT ON THE PROPERTY.

IT DEPENDS WHAT WE WANT TO BUILD THERE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BUILD THERE UNTIL WE KNOW THE COST.

WE DON'T KNOW THE COST UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT WHAT TYPE OF BUILDING MATERIAL WE'RE GOING TO PUT THERE. SO. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE SAME END RESULT.

WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE NOTES AND GET SOME DEMOLITION COSTS AND FOOTPRINT COSTS, BUT IT'S ALL GOING TO COME TO THE SAME EXERCISE.

MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE GO AHEAD WITH IDEA.

WE'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME NOTES AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THAT MEETING HAPPENS OR IN THE FEW WEEKS BEFORE CHRISTMAS, THAT WE HAVE THE OTHER ANSWERS.

OK, FOLLOW UP, COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, AT THAT MEETING, THERE WAS AN AWFUL LOT OF STUFF THAT WAS REQUESTED AND THE REQUEST WAS LET'S BRING THIS INFORMATION FORWARD BEFORE

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SO AGAIN, I'M BEFORE CHRISTMAS OR NOT.

IF YOU CAN GET ALL THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER, I DON'T WANT TO BE SPENDING ANOTHER $30,000 IF THE OTHER INFORMATION IS GOING TO TELL US WE'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, I DON'T WANT TO WASTE $30,000.

COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

WELL, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

WHILE I AGREE WITH SOME THINGS THAT COUNCILLOR PATRIE HAS BROUGHT UP, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS A WASTE OF $30,000 AT ALL.

I THINK ALONG WITH THE OTHER INFORMATION THAT WAS REQUESTED, I THINK THIS WAS PART OF THE REQUEST AS WELL.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT A BUILDING OF THIS TYPE WHAT KIND OF.

I NEED TO SEE IT, I NEED TO SEE FOR MYSELF TO TO BE ABLE TO COMPARE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BRICK AND MORTAR BUILDING AND THIS BUILDING, AND I HAVE NO IDEA IF IT TAKES LESS ROOM, MORE ROOM ON THE SITE, I DON'T KNOW.

DEFINITELY. THE PEOPLE OF ELLIOT LAKE SPOKE, AND THEY WOULD LIKE A PRE ENGINEERED STRUCTURE VERSUS ANOTHER STRUCTURE.

SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HIRE THIS COMPANY TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THIS SAYS AND THEN TO BRING FORWARD THE COST COMPARISON AND AND ALL THE OTHER INFORMATION THAT WE DID REQUEST AT THE MEETING, WHICH WAS MORE THAN DEMOLITION COSTS.

I I RECOLLECT AS WELL, BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS PART OF THE INFORMATION THAT I NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER WE MOVE FORWARD OR NOT.

I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE A WASTE OF MONEY.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO SPEND.

I KNOW THAT CITIZENS OF ELLIOT LAKE HAVE GONE OUT AND DONE THEIR OWN RESEARCH AND PROVIDE US PROVIDED US WITH SOME OF THAT.

BUT THIS IS SOMEONE WHO WILL HAVE AN UNBIASED OPINION OF WHAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, AND WE'LL HAVE MORE CURRENT INFORMATION AND MORE OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GIVE THE STAFF THE TOOLS IN ORDER TO HELP US MAKE THE DECISION. COUNCILLOR MANN.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. CLEARLY, CLEARLY, THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THE COST DIFFERENTIALS BETWEEN TRADITIONAL AND PRE ENGINEERED.

AGAIN, I DON'T THINK AN ADDITIONAL $29,000 FOR A STUDY THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE US MORE INFORMATION IS NOT IS IS I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO REQUEST THAT WE REGULARLY COME TO THIS TABLE AND WE REGULARLY ASK FOR MORE AND MORE INFORMATION ON TOPICS BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S PRUDENT.

I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH THE COMMENTS ABOUT WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION BEFORE CHRISTMAS, WHICH WE'VE KNOWN FOR THE LAST YEAR AND WE'RE FOUR WEEKS OUT.

I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE FLIPPING A COIN ON A 30 PLUS MILLION DOLLAR BILL WITH NO POTENTIAL FUNDING STREAMS, WHICH AGAIN IS A CONCERN.

WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT IN THE MOST REASONABLE MANNER FOR THE FUTURE.

THIS IS A 50 PLUS YEAR BILL AND I THINK A $29,000 EXPENSE, THOUGH ADDITIONAL FUNDS.

I RECOGNIZE THAT AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM COUNCILLOR PATRIE, BUT I THINK I WOULD TEND TO SUPPORT IT TONIGHT.

BUT WE ALL ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME ON THIS.

WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION.

AND I THINK THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR TURNER.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. MR. GAGNON, DID WE NOT GET THAT SOME GEOTECHNICAL REPORTS REGARDING THE THE SURFACE IN THAT AREA? YES, THAT'S CORRECT, WE DID GEOTECH CORE SAMPLES TO GET A BETTER SENSE OF THE GROUND UNDERNEATH WHERE WE THINK WE WERE GOING TO PUT THE FOOTINGS.

THAT DOESN'T THAT'S HELPFUL.

BUT THAT DOESN'T THAT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE IT DOESN'T HELP COUNCILLOR MAKE A DECISION, WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO A PREFAB OR A PRE ENGINEERED OR WHATNOT, IT JUST BASICALLY SAYS, YOU KNOW, THE GROUND.

WE HAVE A BETTER THE ENGINEERS HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF THE GROUND, WHERE TO PUT THE FOOTINGS FOR THE BUILDING.

HELPFUL, BUT.

I THINK IT ALSO TELLS WHETHER OR NOT THE GROUND'S SUITABLE TO BUILD ON.

YEAH, WELL, NOBODY'S SORRY.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT. NOBODY'S SUGGESTED THAT THE GROUND ISN'T SUITABLE TO BUILD ON, THE DEALING THE GEOTECH WAS SIMPLY TO GET CLOSER TO SHOVEL READY SO THAT IF WE WERE TO GET GRANTS OR IF WE DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO BUILD X NEXT SPRING, AT LEAST WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION. SO WE'RE NOT RUNNING BLIND AND THEN REALIZE, OH, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF CLAY WE CAN'T BUILD. SO WE WE GENERALLY KNOW THAT THE BUILDING THE PARCEL WILL SUPPORT A BUILDING. WE MAY NEED MORE GEOTECH IF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT CHANGES, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO DETERMINE IS WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT FOOTPRINT?

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THE SCOPE AND THE FOOTPRINT AND THE ORIENTATION ON THE PARCEL MAY CHANGE THAT WILL ALSO GET AS PART OF THIS $29,000 STUDY IS A BIT OF A REORIENTATION OF YOUR OPTIONS AND WHAT THE PUBLIC WILL SEE IF COUNCIL WERE TO GREENLIGHT A, B OR C.

I THINK WHERE HE WAS TRYING TO GO WITH THIS, WE DID GET GEOTECHNICAL REPORTS THEY HAD BEEN AVAILABLE TO US? THE MAIN THING THAT THE REPORT TELLS US IS THAT THE GROUND IS SUITABLE TO BUILD ON REGARDLESS OF THE STRUCTURE.

AND SO WE'RE NOT WE HAVEN'T BEEN STARVED FOR INFORMATION SINCE THE LAST MEETING OF THE HUB COMMITTEE, AS COUNCILLOR FINAMORE POINTED OUT, ALSO RECEIVED THE BENEFIT OF MANY OF THE CITIZENS WITH THEIR EXPERIENCE IN SOME OF THE REPORTS THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO FUNNEL BACK TO US. I DO NOT WANT TO SEE US SUFFER FURTHER PARALYSIS BY ANALYSIS ON THIS PROJECT.

WE SEEM TO BE. SOMETIMES WE SEEM TO BE BACKPEDALING.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO DO IS PROCEED IN OBTAINING THIS REPORT FROM THE IDEA.

AND MOVE US CLOSER TO THE FINAL DECISION ON YAY OR NAY, WHEN AND WHERE.

THANK YOU. THANK COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

HUGH YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I WOULD AGREE WITH BOTH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE AND COUNCILLOR MANN.

WE NEED THIS INFORMATION, WE NEED IT TO MAKE THE PROPER DECISION, AS COUNCILLOR MANN POINTED OUT, THIS IS A 50 YEAR BUILD.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

I DON'T CONSIDER THE $20000 TO BE ILL SPENT.

ON THE CONTRARY, IT MIGHT END UP SAVING US AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY.

I DON'T KNOW. MR. ANTUNES IS A VERY GOOD SALESPERSON, AND I'M SURE THAT HE COULD SELL ICE CUBES TO ESKIMOS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERYTHING HE TELLS ME IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEED TO KNOW WHEN I'M PURCHASING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO COST $20 MILLION.

SO I WOULD RATHER HAVE IT COME FROM SOMEBODY WHO WAS POINTED OUT HAS NOT GOT A VESTED INTEREST IN IT. AND WE, YOU KNOW, LET'S GET IT DONE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T I AGREE WITH WITH COUNCILLOR MANN, I DON'T WANT US TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION BEFORE CHRISTMAS.

IF WE GO INTO JANUARY, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

BUT LET'S MAKE THE DECISION AND LET'S MAKE IT BASED UPON THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO HAVE.

SO I WILL VERY MUCH SUPPORT THIS MOTION TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR CYR.

THANK YOU WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.

I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS MOTION ONLY BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO HELP GET US TO BEING GROUND READY.

BUT I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF GOING IN THIS ALL ALONE WITHOUT FEDERAL AND PROVINCIAL SUPPORT, SO IT'S JUST IT'S KIND OF, YES, WE NEED THIS TO GET TO THE NEXT STEP, BUT THAT'S AS FAR AS I'M WILLING TO GO.

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION, SO LET'S AT LEAST GET THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN MAKE PROPER DECISIONS.

OK. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR CYR.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE. IF COUNCIL DOES MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, CAN WE AT LEAST HAVE THE BALANCE OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS REQUESTED AT THAT MEETING IN SEPTEMBER TO COME FORWARD TO COUNCIL PRIOR TO OR AT THE SAME TIME AS THIS REPORT COMES FORWARD? I JUST I THINK THAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, IN THE WRONG TIME.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS REPORT ISN'T NEEDED.

I THINK WE NEED THE INFORMATION WE REQUESTED OF STAFF THREE MONTHS AGO PRIOR TO SPENDING THIS $30000.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE SPENT.

I JUST THINK THE TIMING IS WRONG.

I AGREE. COUNCILLOR PATRIE, I'D LIKE TO SEE A FULL PACKAGE OF ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WAS REQUESTED COMING TO A SPECIAL MEETING THAT WAS THE FULL INTENT OF THE COMMITTEE AND THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL THAT SAT THERE.

THERE IS ANOTHER ANOTHER POINT IN THERE AS TO WHAT HAS BEEN BEING SPENT ON AVERAGE YEARLY ON THE REPAIRS OF THE MULTIPLE FACILITIES, BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CONTINUES TO GO ON WITH OUR EITHER OPERATIONAL OR CAPITAL EXPENSES THAT COULD BE NEGATED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, SO MIGHT MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

BUT I LIKE WHAT MR. GAGNON IS BRINGING HERE WHERE WE WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT A PACKAGE WITH ALL THAT

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WHAT YOU HAVE AS FAR AS PRE ENGINEERED, WHICH WILL HELP COUNCIL MAKE THAT DECISION.

WE ALSO HAVE ROMA COMING UP IN JANUARY, SO IT WOULD BE GOOD TO BE ABLE TO SIT IN FRONT OF THE MINISTER OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND SAY, LISTEN, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'VE TAKEN THIS FROM A $50 MILLION PROJECT DOWN TO A $20 MILLION PROJECT THAT STILL SUITS THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WE'VE HAD THAT RECENT PUBLIC INPUT.

HERE'S OUR COMMUNITY THAT SAID WE SHOULD GO WITH PREFAB AND THESE ARE THE PIECES THAT WE NEED. IT'S A LOT MORE HELPFUL SALES PITCH WHEN WHEN YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THAT, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE $50 MILLION POTENTIAL HUB, OUR PORTION OF THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT $16 MILLION. THAT THAT WOULD THAT'S IF WE GOT THE FULL GRANT MONEY, WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO STILL EAT $16 MILLION.

SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, $20 MILLION BUILD WITH PREFAB AND WE'RE ONLY HAVING TO EAT $8 TO $10 MILLION. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT COUNCIL REALLY NEEDS TO SIT BACK AND THINK ABOUT. IS THAT IS THAT A $10 MILLION INVESTMENT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE US 50 YEARS DOWN THE LINE SO. REALLY WANT TO SEE ALL THIS INFORMATION COME TOGETHER AND HOPEFULLY BEFORE CHRISTMAS, BUT I HATE BEING RUSHED.

THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS ONE.

AND I'LL START ON THE OTHER END WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR TURNER.

FAVOR.

COUNCILLOR FINAMORE IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR MANN IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR CYR IN FAVOR,

[9. UNFINISHED BUSINESS]

OH, SEVEN PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS, THERE ARE NONE.

EIGHT OUTSIDE BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTING THERE IS NONE.

NINE UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

NINE POINT ONE COMMUNITY HUB UPDATE STANDING ITEM.

I THINK WE JUST HAD THAT MR. GAGNON. PRETTY MUCH, YES.

NINE POINT TWO THE ARTS AND CULTURE HUB UPDATE IS THERE ANYTHING NEW THERE? NOPE. WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR FEEDBACK ON OUR FUNDING APPLICATION FOR ME, SWING FOR THE FENCES, FOR THE GREEN TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION.

SO STILL, FINGERS CROSSED THAT WE GET THAT INFORMATION ON THAT ANGLE.

COUNCILLOR PEARCE. YEAH, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP TO YOU, MR. GAGNON, IF WE DON'T GET THE GREEN FUNDING.

WILL WE GET ANY FUNDING OR DOES IT WERE GONE? IS THAT THE WAY IT WORKS? WELL, THERE ARE NO CURRENT FUNDING PURSES FOR LARGE FACILITIES OF ANY SORT EXCEPT FOR THE FORD LARGESSE FUND THAT WE KEEP SEEING AND THROWING AROUND IN CERTAIN WRITINGS.

SO WE KNOW THERE'S A THERE'S A WILL, THERE'S A WAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, BUT IF WE'RE TURNED DOWN FOR THE GREEN FUND, THEN WE'RE BACK TO THE SAME FORD GOVERNMENT LOBBYING THAT WE'RE IN FOR THE SPORTS HUB.

WE SAW $18 MILLION GET POURED INTO SAULT STE.

MARIE. WE HAVEN'T SEEN A DIME, SO WE KNOW THAT THE GOVERNMENT, IF THE GOVERNMENT HAS A WILL, THEY FIND A WAY? SO THERE'S THAT. BUT THERE'S NO CURRENT FUNDING PROGRAMS THAT SAY, APPLY HERE AND WE'LL GIVE YOU TWO THIRDS FUNDING THOSE THINGS.

I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING THIS THROUGH THE FENCE.

YES, THE GREEN BUCKET IS THROUGH THE FENCE.

IF WE'RE TURN IT DOWN THERE.

I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WITH THE FEDS THAT THE FEDS CAN GIVE US.

NOT NOT AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

NO, BUT COULD BE WRONG [INAUDIBLE].

THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP MR. GAGNON, THE INITIAL PLAN AS WELL, WE STILL HAVE THE CULTURAL SPACES CANADA AND THE NOHFC, BUT AGAIN, NOT A LARGE BIG GRANT BUCKET, SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY IN PLAY FROM BEFORE WITH US THAT MR. GAGNON HAD SOURCED WITH CULTURAL SPACES IN THE PAST.

YEAH, SO WE COULD STILL COBBLE TOGETHER.

BUT IT WILL BE NOWHERE NEAR THE SCALE OF THE $20 MILLION BUILDING THAT WE WERE CONTEMPLATING. NOW, IF WE DON'T GET THE GREEN FUND, WE CAN REMOVE A LOT OF THE GREEN ASPECTS. WE WOULD STILL DO SOME OF THEM, BUT WE WOULD CHERRY PICK THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS AND DETERMINE SO THERE MIGHT STILL BE ABLE TO COBBLE TOGETHER.

YES, CULTURAL SPACES CANADA AND NOHFC.

AND I WILL SAY FOR BOTH THE SPORTS AND THE ARTS HUB, THE NOHFC COULD FUND UP TO $2 MILLION OF WHATEVER HUB WE'RE CONTEMPLATING.

BUT THAT'S 10 PERCENT OF WHAT WE NEED IF WE'RE DOING $29 MILLION.

SO IT'S IT'S CHALLENGING.

IF WE DON'T GET THE GREEN FUND, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COBBLE TOGETHER SOMETHING AS A PLAN B. COUNCILLOR TURNER.

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IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE WE FIRST DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE FEDS, BUT THAT'S STILL NEXT IN LINE IF WE DON'T GET THE GREEN SPACES, GREEN INITIATIVES SPENT.

OK. STAFF NINE POINT THREE RESIDENTIAL WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS IS THAT STILL WAITING FOR FURTHER INFORMATION.

YEAH, WE DID DO A REQUEST FOR DELEGATION WITH THE MINISTRY OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND HOUSING TO JUST TALK IN GENERAL ABOUT THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE ACT AND WHAT THE NEXT STEPS WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR OUR WINDING DOWN OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

BUT SO WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE SOME TIME WITH THE MINISTER IN LATE JANUARY AT THE ENROLLMENT CONFERENCE. JUST TO GET THE BALL ROLLING, BUT THERE'S NO THE WEATHER UPDATES RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU. NINE POINT FOUR COVID 19 UPDATE STANDING ITEM WE HAVE A NINE POINT FOUR POINT ONE MEMO FROM THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER 2022 HORN LAKE FISHING DERBY.

UH, MR. GAGNON. THEY SIMPLY JUST WANTED TO SORT OF GAUGE COUNCIL'S APPETITE TO TO A DO WE WANT TO HOST THIS EVENT? IT'S DIFFICULT TO FACTOR WHAT COVID REQUIREMENTS OR CONSTRAINTS MAY BE IN FEBRUARY, THREE MONTHS AWAY OR WHATNOT, BUT NORMALLY AT THIS TIME OF YEAR OR PRE-SELLING TICKETS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, FOR YOUR HOLIDAYS, FOR THE FOR THE HORN MCDARBY. ON THE ONE HAND, IT'S IT'S A GOOD COMMUNITY EVENT.

THERE'S SOME STAFF TIME INVOLVED, BUT IT DRIVES TOURISM, TRAFFIC AND INTEREST.

BUT IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO IS INVITE REGIONAL TRAFFIC INTO THE COMMUNITY.

LAST YEAR WE TALKED ABOUT LIMITING IT TO A SMALLER AMOUNT OF ENTRANCE, ONLY TO THE IMMEDIATE AREA AND THEN BECAUSE OF COVID LOCKDOWNS OR WHATEVER WAS HAPPENING AT THE TIME, WE HAD TO CANCEL THE EVENT ALTOGETHER.

SO HERE WE FIND OURSELVES NOW TRYING TO DETERMINE, DO WE CANCEL IT NOW OR DO WE TENTATIVELY PROCEED AND REVISIT? WELL, WE COULD BE REVISITING EVERY TWO WEEKS.

WE ALWAYS HAVE A STANDING ITEM, BUT IT'S JUST WHAT DO WE TELL THE PUBLIC WHO ARE CALLING US RIGHT NOW FOR TICKETS? I DON'T KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT, SO IF WE WERE TO START PRE-SELLING TICKETS RIGHT NOW AND AND WE DON'T SELL THEM TO SUE ST MARIE OR SUDBURY ST, SAY IF WE STARTED SELLING TICKETS NOW AND THINGS ARE STILL HOT IN FEBRUARY AND WE HAVE TO WIND IT DOWN, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REFUND ANYBODY WHO'S PURCHASE TICKETS AND.

SO WE COULD DO SOMETHING IN THE HOPES OF MAYBE.

WE COULD ABSOLUTELY TAKE TAKE.

BIG INFORMATION AND PROVIDE REFUNDS WHEN NEEDED, IF NEEDED, YEAH.

OK, SANDY, SORRY, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE THANK YOU.

YOUR WORSHIP, I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND PRE SELL THE TICKETS FOR CHRISTMAS AND PLAY IT BY EAR. I THINK THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE.

I THINK THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO PRE-PURCHASED TICKETS LAST YEAR THAT LET THEM RIDE FOR THIS YEAR IN THE HOPES THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN.

AND I THINK THAT I DON'T THINK A DECISION COULD BE MADE AT THIS POINT AS TO HOW BIG WE ALLOW IT OR HOW WIDE WE ALLOWED IT.

AS SEEING AS SUE ST MARIE NOW HOLDS THE RECORD FOR THE LARGEST COVID IN NORTHERN ONTARIO RIGHT NOW, IT'S HARD TO SAY, LET'S BRING THEM ALL HERE, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THIS POSITIVELY AND HOPE THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO LEVEL OUT AND IF NOT, THEN WE CANCEL IT.

AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE STAFF THAT ARE CAPABLE TO DO THIS, THIS IS A BIG, HUGE UNDERTAKING AND WE HAVE TO RELY ON OUR SERVICE CLUBS AND WE HAVE TO.

IF THIS IS A CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE EVENT, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THEM TO COME FORWARD AND HELP US BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE EVENT THAT WE CANNOT.

WE DO NOT HAVE THE STAFF TO DO ALONE WITHOUT OUR VOLUNTEERS.

SO [INAUDIBLE] IS MANDATORY COUNCILLOR MANN.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I UNFORTUNATELY DON'T SHARE THE SAME LEVEL OF OPTIMISM AS COUNCILLOR FINAMORE FOR AN EVENT THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THREE MONTHS AWAY.

I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT [INAUDIBLE] ESCALATION LAST TIME LAST YEAR, THIS TIME OF TWO OR THREE A DAY. WE HAD 43 CASES IN SIOUX SAINT MARIE AND ALGOMA EAST SATURDAY.

THE NUMBERS ARE INCREASING ALMOST TO THE POINT WE CAN CALL IT EXPONENTIALLY THIS POINT AND OBVIOUSLY THE NEXT ONE YOUR WORSHIP REGARDING IN-PERSON COUNCIL MEETINGS.

YES, ELLIOT LAKE HAS A GREAT IMMUNIZATION RATE AND OR VACCINATION RATE RATHER, I THINK

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HOWEVER, WIDESPREAD RISK IF WE DON'T HAVE TO.

I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY THE TIME TO SET AN EXPECTATION AND THEN HAVE TO PULL IT AWAY. I THINK WE START PLANNING EVENTS, CREATING EVENTS AND SEEING THEM THROUGH.

I JUST DON'T THINK THAT I'M COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING THIS EVENT YET.

UNFORTUNATELY, I WOULD LOVE TO, BUT WE ARE SEASONS AWAY FROM GETTING RID OF THIS OR HAVING IT TO A MANAGEABLE STATE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THAT'S THE POSITION I HAVE.

I HAVE TO TAKE. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

YEAH, I'M. SORT OF IN COUNCILLOR MANN'S CAMP ON THIS, ALTHOUGH I WOULD POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE CANCELED FISHING DERBIES IN THE PAST.

YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING FROM THE FACT THAT THE ICE WAS MELTING OR HADN'T FORMED PROPERLY AND THERE WERE OTHER REASONS FOR IT, BUT.

AS MUCH AS I WANT THIS BECAUSE I REALLY ENJOYED THE DAY, I THINK IT'S A VERY FUN DAY FOR A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE.

I THINK I WOULD HAVE TO BE AGAINST HOLDING THIS THIS YEAR.

I JUST FOR THE COMING YEAR.

IT'S TOO EARLY AND FRANKLY.

I THINK THE INFECTION RATE IN ALGOMA IS RIGHT NOW THE HIGHEST IN ALL OF NORTHERN ONTARIO, AND INDICATIONS ARE IT'S GOING TO GET EVEN HIGHER SO.

I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THAT.

I'M SORRY. COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I THINK THAT WE SHOULD PLAN TO HAVE THIS EVENT.

I THINK CANCELING IT THIS EARLY IS NOT A WISE CHOICE.

IT IS VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THIS MUNICIPALITY TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO GO BACK TO WORK THIS FALL AND I WAS AT AN EVENT THAT HAD 40,000 PEOPLE ON A FAIRGROUNDS.

AND NO OUTBREAK, SO TO BE CANCELING SOMETHING THAT IS THIS BENEFICIAL TO THIS MUNICIPALITY TO KEEPING US ON THE MAP AT THIS EARLY STAGE.

THERE'S VERY MINIMAL COST AT THIS POINT TO ORGANIZE.

I KNOW MRS. HENNESSEY IN THE PAST, WHEN SHE DIDN'T HAVE THE TICKETS PRINTED AND READY PRIOR TO CHRISTMAS, SHE WAS JUST SELLING THE TICKETS BY NUMBER WITH RECEIPT BOOKS SO THAT SHE WASN'T EXPENDING MUNICIPAL FUNDS.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO HONOR THE PEOPLE THAT LET US HOLD ON TO THEIR MONEY LAST YEAR THAT DIDN'T ASK FOR THE MONEY BACK WITH THE PRETENSE OF BEING ABLE TO DO IT.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT, YES, SUE IS THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS HAS BEEN IN DIRE STRAITS. IT'S TERRIBLE WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER THERE, BUT YOU'RE TALKING THREE MONTHS AWAY AND I DON'T THINK THAT YOU SHOULD BE CANCELING THIS AT THIS EARLY STAGE.

I THINK THAT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD AND PLAN TO HAVE IT ITS' MINIMAL COST TO THE MUNICIPALITY FOR SOMETHING THAT IS THIS BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY.

OK, SINCE SO FAR, NO CLEAR DIRECTION MR. GAGNON, I'LL I'LL LOOK FOR WE'LL HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS, I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION THEN TO SUPPORT THE 2022 ON LAKE FISHING DERBY.

IS THERE A MOVER? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE SECONDER.

SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE AGAIN, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

[INAUDIBLE] WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE, I'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE TO START.

IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

YOU WERE MUTED, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

YOU'RE GOOD NOW. I DIDN'T EVEN TOUCH IT IN FAVOR.

COUNCILLOR TURNER I'M OPPOSED.

COUNCILLOR PEARCE OPPOSED.

COUNCILLOR CYR STILL THERE.

MAY NOT BE THERE COUNCILLOR MANN OPPOSED.

OK, I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S A TIE, BUT IT'S DEFEATED AS A TIE.

NINE POINT FOUR POINT TWO.

MEMO FROM MAYOR MARCHISELLA THE IN-PERSON COUNCIL MEETINGS, THE REQUEST THAT COUNCIL PASS

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THIS COULD BE A BENEFIT FOR BOTH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE PUBLIC IN REGARDS TO PLANNING AND ATTENDANCE. I'D ALSO LIKE TO ENSURE THAT STAFF HAVE APPROPRIATE TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL CHAMBERS ARE UP TO STANDARDS, BUT ALL CURRENT COVID 19 PROTOCOLS ARE FOLLOWED FOR SAFETY, SO I WOULD LEAVE IT TO COUNCIL IF SOMEBODY WISHES TO PUT FORWARD A MOTION WITH A DATE AND TIME, COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE MOVE BACK TO IN-PERSON COUNCIL MEETINGS AS PER THE NEXT SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING. OK.

IS THERE A SECONDER? NO, NO SECOND, OK, NO.

COUNCILLOR TURNER. I MOVE TO BRING US BACK TO IN-PERSON COUNCIL MEETINGS, BUT I WAIT THE MONTH OF DECEMBER AND STAGE SET FOR FIRST COUNCIL MEETING IN 2022.

OK. IS THERE A SECONDOR TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW YEAR? I'LL SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION, AT LEAST, SO THAT WE CAN START THIS CONVERSATION.

SECONDED FOR DISCUSSION.

COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

I GUESS WHERE MY STAND POINT IS, UNLESS I KNOW THAT EVERYONE IN THE ROOM IS VACCINATED, I WILL NOT BE ATTENDING UNTIL COVID HAS SLOWED DOWN AN AWFUL LOT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST, IF POSSIBLE, DURING THIS TIME THAT SOMEBODY I THOUGHT THE FACILITIES MANAGER WAS DOING THAT WHILE WE ARE NOT USING IT, THAT IT BE LOOKED AT IF IT COULD BE NOT ONLY MADE ACCESSIBLE BUT ALSO MADE IT SO THAT WE CAN BE SIX FEET APART WITHOUT ANY WITHOUT ANY.

SCRATCHED UP NAZI THROUGH PLEXIGLASS AND BETWEEN US AND THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING AWAY BECAUSE I VOTED FOR AN OUTDOOR ACTIVITY THAT CAN BE CANCELED AT ANY MOMENT.

DOESN'T MEAN I'M READY TO SIT IN A ROOM WITH PEOPLE WHO I DON'T KNOW ARE VACCINATED OR NOT, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW I FIND OUT THAT INFORMATION.

I WILL TELL YOU. I'VE HAD THREE VACCINATIONS AND BUT UNLESS I KNOW FOR SURE THAT EVERYONE IN THE ROOM IS DOUBLE VACCINATED, I WON'T.

I CAN'T ATTEND THE MEETING.

AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

I HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF MY HEALTH AND THAT OF MY FAMILY.

AND YOU KNOW, TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE PAYING THE PRICE.

MY GRANDCHILDREN.

FOURTH QUARANTINE SINCE SEPTEMBER.

FROM RIDING A BUS AND SITTING IN A CLASSROOM, AND IT MIGHT BE 94 PERCENT OF VACCINATED PEOPLE, BUT THAT'S OF ELIGIBLE VACCINATED PEOPLE, WE'VE GOT TO GET LET THE CHILDREN GET A CHANCE TO BE VACCINATED AND THERE'S NO WAY THEY'RE GOING TO BE VACCINATED BY JANUARY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO WAIT 8 OR 10 WEEKS IN BETWEEN VACCINATIONS AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN HERE YET. SO I THINK THAT UNTIL WE CAN GET THE MOST VULNERABLE PORTION OF OUR COMMUNITY VACCINATED, I DON'T THINK THAT.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN WE CAN COME BACK TOGETHER.

I'VE SAID ALL ALONG IF WE COULD GO TO COLLINS HALL, WHERE WE'RE VERY FAR APART AND WE HAVE MICROPHONES AND WE CAN HEAR EACH OTHER, THEN MAYBE THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION.

BUT GOING INTO OUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS AS THEY ARE, THEY THEY NEED TO BE MADE ACCESSIBLE.

IF THE NEXT COUNCIL, IF WE HAD SOMEBODY WHO WAS DISABLED AND IN A WHEELCHAIR OR EVEN USED A WALKER OR CRUTCHES OR A CANE WOULD BE VERY HARD FOR THEM TO TO SIT AT THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. SO I JUST I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THAT FACILITY, JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE.

COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

I HAVE SIMILAR SENTIMENTS TO COUNCILLOR FINAMORE ON ON THIS AS WELL.

I WISH IT WAS EASY.

JUST AS EASY TO PICK A DATE AND SAY, LET'S GO IN ON THIS DATE OR THAT, AND I SHARE BOTH COUNCILLOR PATRIE OPTIMISM WITH COUNCILLOR TURNERS THAT IT COULD BE IN A WEEK AND A HALF OR AT THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY.

THIS THIS THIS ISSUE THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE IS NOT THAT SIMPLE.

AND I THINK SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCILLOR FINAMORE SAID, WE WE HAVE TO WE WE NOT ONLY THINK OF OURSELVES, BUT WE HAVE OUR EMPLOYEES THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT.

ZOOM IS NOT PERFECT.

IT DOES HAVE ITS CHALLENGES.

HYBRID MEETINGS DON'T WORK WHERE SOME ARE IN A ROOM AND SOME ARE ON ZOOM.

IT DOESN'T WORK.

IT'S ALL OR NOTHING.

THE COLLINS HALL, THOUGH IT'S A GREAT FACILITY, IS NOT CONDUCIVE WITH FANS AND THE HUM OF

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SO UNFORTUNATELY, WE CONTINUE TO MEET IN THIS REGARD.

WHERE ARE THE IMPACTS FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC? THE QUESTION PERIOD, THOSE WE DON'T SEEM TO BE GETTING THAT LEVEL OF BUY-IN OR INTERACTION, BUT IT'S PRETTY CLEAR PEOPLE DO WATCH THESE MEETINGS BECAUSE I REGULARLY TALK TO PEOPLE ON TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY MORNINGS THAT HAVE WATCHED.

WHY DIDN'T YOU HAVE A MEETING THREE WEEKS AGO? YOU DIDN'T HAVE ONE. WE CHECKED ON THE WEBSITE AND IT WASN'T LISTED, SO PEOPLE ARE STILL WATCHING, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT.

THEY'VE AS WELL PIVOTED, AND THEY'VE HAD TO READJUST THEIR LIVES TO FIND THE SOURCE EITHER ON LOCAL CABLE STATION OR ONLINE.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT, WE ARE HERE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.

WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND THE WAY TO DO IT SAFELY.

AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, AT LEAST RIGHT NOW, UNTIL I SEE SOMETHING BETTER THAN PLUS FORTY THREE CASES IN THE [INAUDIBLE] AND NOW CREEPING INTO CENTRAL AND EAST ALGOMA.

SO IT'S ALL AROUND US.

AND YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO SAY WE'RE IN A BUBBLE.

WE'RE NOT. SO LET'S TRY TO KEEP IT CONTAINED AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.

SO I'M GOOD WHERE I AM FOR NOW.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

YEAH. I ADVOCATED FOR A LONG TIME TO GO BACK INTO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS BECAUSE I I MISS THE PERSONAL INTERACTION VERY, VERY MUCH.

BUT LIKE COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, I HAVE PERSONAL REASONS THAT DO NOT MAKE THAT POSSIBLE.

I JUST CAN'T DO IT. I WON'T DO IT.

AND COUNCILLOR MANN IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

IF IT'S IN EAST ALGOMA AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF THAT, BUT IF IT'S IN EAST ALGOMA, YOU CAN BET YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR IT'S COMING HERE, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT.

I DON'T LIKE ZOOMING.

I GET REALLY TIRED OF IT, FRANKLY, ALTHOUGH I DO HAVE A NICER OFFICE HERE THAN I DO AT CITY HALL, I HAVE TO ADMIT.

BUT THIS, I THINK THIS IS THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO.

I WOULD SUSPECT THIS IS THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO, PROBABLY UNTIL THE SPRING OF 2022 AT THE EARLIEST BEFORE WE CAN GO BACK INTO ANY KIND OF IN COUNCIL MEETINGS, IN CHAMBER MEETINGS. SORRY, BUT I THINK THAT'S REALITY.

AND SO, TURNER. YES, THANKS.

I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES AT COUNCIL HERE.

AND ADMIT CONCERNS, THERE IS ONE THING THAT CAUSES ME LITTLE CONCERN.

PERHAPS I MISUNDERSTAND THIS, BUT THE COVID VIRUS IS SOMETHING THAT ANY OF US CAN GET, WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE VACCINATIONS.

ONE TWO THREE.

DOESN'T MATTER. YOU CAN STILL GET IT.

THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE A VACCINATION AND IS BECOMING A THREAT IS A LITTLE EXAGGERATED IN THAT THEY'RE NO MORE THREAT THAN SOMEONE WHO'S HAD TWO OR THREE VACCINATIONS. WE JUST IT'S A MATTER OF BEING A CARRIER.

WHAT A REAL CONCERN IS, IS FOR FELLOW CITIZENS WHO HAVE NOT HAD A VACCINATION THAT IF THEY DO GET IT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE.

THE ODDS ARE THEY'LL BECOME MUCH SICKER THAN THOSE WHO HAVE HAD THE VACCINATIONS.

THOSE WHO ARE REALLY SICK CLOG UP OUR HOSPITALS AND PEOPLE WHO NEED THOSE EMERGENCY ROOMS, ICU ROOMS HAVING TROUBLE FITTING IN.

SO I JUST WANT HAVE SOME CLARITY ON THAT, THE CONCERNS ABOUT BIG GATHERINGS, YOU KNOW, JUST LAST WEEK WE DETERMINED THAT WE COULDN'T SAFELY OR CONSCIOUSLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CHRISTMAS DINNER, THE COMMUNITY CHRISTMAS DINNER AND [INAUDIBLE] WHO'S BEEN THE CHIEF ORGANIZATION ORGANIZER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW.

VERY DISAPPOINTED, BUT KNEW WE HAD TO PULL THE PIN ON IT AND CALL A HALT TO IT THIS YEAR, AND RIGHTLY SO.

THE RISK IS THERE AND PERHAPS AS COUNCILLOR MANN HAS SAID IT.

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BEGINNING OF THE YEAR IS NOT NOT THE TIME.

THE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN INCREASING AROUND US.

I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, AND IT'S.

IT'S REALLY UPSETTING.

WHICH WHEN YOU SEE THE LOCATIONS WHERE THESE GATHERINGS HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE AND GROUPS HAVE COME DOWN WITH THE WITH THE VIRUS.

I JUST I'M WILLING TO SIT HERE ON ZOOM FOR A WHILE YET, BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE COMPLACENT ABOUT IT.

I THINK. FAIRLY SOON, WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME MOVES TO GETTING BACK IN PERSON, AND COUNCILLOR FINAMORE SAID.

WHAT HAPPENED THE IDEA OF MAKING THE SPACE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, IT'S GOT TO BE SOMEPLACE WHERE WE CAN GATHER AROUND A TABLE.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.

VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT ARE SAID, WE HAVE TO GET BACK TO HAVING THIS COMMUNITY BACK LIVE.

NEARLY EVERYBODY SITTING AT THIS TABLE TODAY HAS BEEN TRAVELING OUT OF TOWN, HAVING VISITORS FROM OUT OF TOWN WHERE WE'RE WE'RE IN CLOSE CONTACT AND CLOSE PROXIMITY TO PEOPLE THAT THE LAW AND THE RULES TO KEEP THINGS SAFE ARE NUMBER ONE, YES, GET VACCINATED SO THAT YOU'RE NOT AS SUSCEPTIBLE TO BE EXTREMELY ILL, COUNCILLOR TURNER SAYS.

IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T VACCINATED THAT CAN BECOME VERY ILL.

WE CAN ALL STILL GET IT VACCINATED OR NOT, BUT WE'RE LESS SUSCEPTIBLE TO EXTREME ILLNESS.

THE RULES ARE, IF YOU CAN'T BE SIX FEET APART, HAVE A PETITION, [INAUDIBLE] PLEXIGLASS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE EXPENDED THE MONEY ON AND PUT IN PLACE AT COUNCIL.

THE PLEXIGLASS DOESN'T NEED TO BE IN FRONT OF US SO THAT WE'RE NOT THROUGH A BLURRED SCREEN, BUT SURE, KEEP IT BESIDE US OR WEAR A MASK.

THE RULE IS EITHER SIX FEET APART OR WEAR A MASK.

THE PROBLEM IS THESE OUTBREAKS, AND IF YOU READ WHAT WE'RE GETTING, THE REPORTS ON THE MAJORITY OF THESE OUTBREAKS ARE HAPPENING IN CLOSE PROXIMITY AREAS WHERE MASKS AREN'T REQUIRED. AND THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS AND CAUSING IT TO INCREASE BASED ON THOSE NUMBERS IN EASTERN OKLAHOMA.

I TOTALLY DISAGREE.

WE HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO HAVE NEXT MONTH.

THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE VIA ZOOM.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE THE EFFECT THAT A PUBLIC MEETING SHOULD HAVE ON A ZONING ISSUE.

I JUST THINK THAT WE WE HAVE THE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS IN PLACE.

WE'VE HAD THEM IN PLACE FOR OVER A YEAR AND WE'RE NOT UTILIZING THEM.

EVERY ONE OF US HAS BEEN TO CITY HALL.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO CITY HALL IN SEEING STAFF, IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE CAN'T MEET BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO PUT STAFF AT RISK, WE SHOULDN'T BE GOING TO CITY HALL.

THERE'S JUST SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE.

I JUST I CANNOT AGREE WITH I'M SORRY, BUT I THINK THAT WE JUST HAVE TO BITE THE BULLET AND GET BACK TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS AND OR STAY HOME EITHER OR YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO JUST STAY HOME AND NOT COMMUNICATE WITH ANYBODY OTHER VIA ELECTRONICS.

THEN WE SHOULD BE TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE TO GO BACK AND MEET WITH EACH OTHER THAT WE'RE SEEING EACH OTHER AT FACILITIES AS IT IS NOW.

COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

AND WITH RESPECT TO I TRULY DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A DEBATE OVER OVER THESE TOPICS, BUT BUT I WILL I WILL SHARE ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW SAFE WE ARE IN CITY HALL CURRENTLY.

TYPICALLY, IN MEETINGS, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, I WALK BACK IN MY CHAIR AS SOON AS I GET TO ABOUT HALFWAY.

I CAN NOW SEE COUNCILLOR PATRIE WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF A PIECE OF PLEXIGLAS OR FOR THAT FACT. COUNCILLOR CYR ON MY LEFT, WE'RE NOT COMPLETELY PROTECTED.

FINE. IF WE'RE HUDDLED OVER OUR DESK LIKE THIS, WE'RE PROTECTED.

BUT WE'RE NOT. AND YOU KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO SPEND MORE MONEY TO CREATE LARGER PLEXIGLAS.

GREAT, BUT AGAIN.

WE TRIED IT, AND WE DO GO TO CITY HALL.

I PICKED UP MY BUDGET PACKAGE YESTERDAY MORNING AT 11 O'CLOCK.

SIGNED IN, WORE MY MASK WAS PROBABLY ON CAMERA WHEN I DID IT.

IF I DO HAVE TO GO TALK TO STAFF, I WEAR MY MASK AS I DO ALL DAY AT WORK.

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THEREFORE, I TAKE IT SERIOUSLY WITH THE CITY AND THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE'RE ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR.

WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT US CONDUCTING CITY BUSINESS.

WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE SAFETY AND WELFARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES AS WELL.

AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BEING UNSAFE TALKING TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS, BUT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THEM WHEN WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS AS WELL.

AND YES, THE BYLAW MEETING THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE IN DECEMBER WILL BE PROBLEMATIC.

HOWEVER, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS LONG ENOUGH THAT WE CAN MANAGE IT AND WE CAN STILL EFFECTIVELY GET THE BUSINESS OF THIS MUNICIPALITY COMPLETED.

THAT'S STILL MY GOAL, AND IT HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.

AND THAT'S NOT CHANGING, WHETHER I'M SITTING IN THIS CHAIR OR IN CITY HALL.

WE'RE STILL GETTING THE BUSINESS DONE, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT COUNTS.

AND I WANT TO GET BACK TOO, BUT I'M NOT GOING BACK TODAY.

OK. OK, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

DIDN'T DIDN'T MEAN TO STIR UP ANY ANY HARSH FEELINGS AMONG AMONG COUNCIL.

WE'VE ALL BEEN GETTING ALONG REALLY, REALLY GREAT, BUT I FIGURED THAT DUE TIME THAT WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

SEE WHERE EVERYONE SITS AND FOR THE EDIFICATION OF THE PUBLIC TOO BECAUSE I GET IT ON A REGULAR BASIS.

WHEN ARE THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS GOING TO BE OPEN.

WHEN ARE YOU BACK IN PERSON? WHEN ARE WE ALLOWED AT CITY HALL? SO GOOD DEBATE.

A LOT OF GOOD POINTS AND I'LL GET MS. BRAY TO READ THE MOTION THAT WAS PUT FORWARD AND THEN GO FOR A VOTE.

MS. BRAY.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THAT COUNCIL RETURN TO IN-PERSON COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR THE FIRST MEETING OF JANUARY 2022.

OK. THE ROLL CALL, I'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR TURNER.

YOUR WORSHIP I'D LIKE TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

COULD HAVE JUST VOTED NO, BUT OK, MOTION WITHDRAWN, NO VOTE NECESSARY.

[12. NOTICES OF MOTION]

TEN PETITIONS, THERE ARE NONE.

ELEVEN CORRESPONDENTS, THERE IS NONE.

TWELVE NOTICES OF MOTION TWELVE POINT ONE NOTICE OF MOTION WE REVIEW OF OVP CONTRACT COUNCILLOR PEARCE IF IT WOULD START WITH THE MOTION AND FOR YOU TO MOVE IT AND THE SENATOR. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.

WHEREAS THE COST OF MUNICIPAL POLICING IS THE LARGEST NON-CAPITAL COMPONENT OF OUR MUNICIPAL BUDGET.

AND WHEREAS THERE HAS NOT BEEN A PUBLIC ACCOUNTING OF POLICING COSTS IN OVER FOUR YEARS.

AND WHEREAS THERE IS A GROWING PERCEPTION AMONG MANY OF OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY ARE NOT BEING WELL SERVED BY THE LOCAL DETACHMENT OF THE OPP.

AND WHEREAS ALTHOUGH ELLIOT LAKE IS THE LARGEST MUNICIPALITY IN THE EAST ALGOMA DETACHMENT OPERATIONAL AREA, IT APPEARS THAT WE HAVE THE FEWEST MEMBERS OF THE FORCE ON ACTIVE DUTY AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

I THEREBY MOVE THE COUNCIL UNDERTAKE AN OPEN AND TRANSPARENT REVIEW OF POLICING IN ELLIOT LAKE AND DETERMINE PROPER LEVELS OF SERVICING VERSUS COST TO THE COMMUNITY.

[INAUDIBLE] SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE, THANK YOU.

YOU CAN GET INTO YOUR REPORT AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR CONVERSATION.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. AT JUST UNDER $2.7 MILLION PER YEAR THE COST OF POLICING IN ELLIOT LAKE IS A MAJOR COMPONENT OF THE CITY BUDGET.

YET WE SEEM TO HAVE LITTLE OR NO CONTROL OVER HOW MANY OFFICERS ARE ON DUTY IN OUR COMMUNITY VERSUS OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE EAST ALGOMA DETACHMENT.

WHAT RESOURCES ARE USED AND WHAT RESOURCES ARE NEEDED FOR BETTER POLICING? THERE HAS BEEN NO UPDATE TO COUNCIL BY THE LOCAL DETACHMENT COMMANDER ON THE STATE OF SAFETY OR THE MAJOR CONCERNS THAT THE OPP HAVE WITH REGARDS TO DRUGS, GANGS, VIOLENCE OR PROBLEMS WITH MENTALLY UNSTABLE PEOPLE, NOR AN ACCOUNTING OF WHY OUR COSTS ARE WHAT THEY ARE. AT THE SAME TIME, WE'VE SEEN AN INVASION OF ILLICIT DRUGS AND THE ATTENDANT OVERDOSES. THE ARRIVAL OF GANGS THAT ARE INCREASINGLY VIOLENT AND THREATENING TO THE LOCAL POPULATION AND AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF VIOLENT ACTS.

IN THE LAST TWO TO THREE WEEKS THERE'S BEEN AN ATTEMPTED ABDUCTION OF A YOUNG GIRL ON HER WAY HOME FROM SCHOOL ON HER WAY TO SCHOOL.

SHE MANAGED TO ESCAPE AND THE MAN FLED.

BUT THE POLICE DID NOT SEE FIT TO ISSUE A WARNING TO PARENTS OR OTHER SCHOOLS OR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

A MAN ASSAULTED HIS NEIGHBOR WITH A HAMMER AND WAS ARRESTED, THEN RELEASED ON RECOGNIZANCE . AND HAS SINCE THREATENED AN 85 YEAR OLD MAN AND HIS FAMILY WHO HAVE BEEN PILLARS OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR OVER 65 YEARS, WHO NOW LIVE IN FEAR AFTER RECEIVING NUMEROUS TELEPHONE THREATS FROM THE SAME MAN.

I HAVE LISTENED TO ONE OF THESE THREATS, AND IT IS GENUINELY SCARY.

YET THE LOCAL OPP HAVE SEEN FIT TO DO NOTHING TO PROTECT THESE PEOPLE OR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. THERE SEEMS TO BE AN ATTITUDE BY THE OPP THAT WE'RE NOT ENTITLED TO KNOW WHAT THEY

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YET FEW OF THEM LIVE IN OUR TOWN, PREFERRING THE BRIGHT LIGHTS OF BLIND RIVER IN THESSALON WHEN THEY GO HOME AFTER A SHIFT.

THEY DON'T PATRONIZE OUR BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY, NOR ARE THEY READILY AVAILABLE IN THE EVENT OF POTENTIAL PROBLEM.

I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I AM NOT ANTI-POLICE.

IN FACT, MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY HAVE SERVED PROUDLY AS POLICE OFFICERS.

ONE OF THEM WAS SHOT IN THE IN THE LINE OF DUTY.

I AM, HOWEVER, PRO ACCOUNTABILITY, AND I ASKED THE COUNCIL UNDERTAKE A DETAILED AND FORMAL REVIEW OF OUR CONTRACT WITH THE OPP TO DETERMINE WHAT LEVELS OF POLICING WE REQUIRE AND WHAT THE POTENTIAL COSTS WOULD BE.

AND SO I RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT THIS TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME QUESTIONS GOING ON HERE.

I'VE HAD MANY, MANY INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY ASK ALSO FOR SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR THE CITY TO LOOK AT THE COSTING BETWEEN MUNICIPAL POLICING AND THE OPP.

AND I KNOW MUNICIPAL POLICE ARE NOT.

WE STILL WOULD HAVE OPP PRESENT.

THIS IS NOT A SLIGHT AGAINST HARDWORKING, DECENT INDIVIDUALS THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE IN THE AREA AND OUR DETACHMENT COMMANDER VANDER STURGEON HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK IN THE LAST FEW YEARS ON MANY MENTAL HEALTH AND COMMUNITY WELLNESS INITIATIVES.

THAT BEING SAID, IN A LOT OF INSTANCES, AS AS YOU MENTIONED, AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE SEEING A GROWTH OF THE DRUG TRAFFICKING THROUGH OUR COMMUNITIES AND NOT JUST HERE, IT'S THROUGH BLIND RIVER AND THESSALON ALSO AN ORGANIZED CRIME GROWING.

THERE SEEMS TO BE.

RESTRAINTS FOR OUR OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY DO THINGS LOCALLY BECAUSE EVERYTHING SEEMS TO NEED A TASK FORCE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S AT A PROVINCIAL LEVEL, YOU NEED TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT WAYS TO CONTROL THE SITUATION IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY.

AND I'VE RECENTLY HAD A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE ASKED IF WE COULD GO BATMAN AND ROBIN ON SOME PEOPLE'S COMMUNITY. THAT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE, AND I CAN'T BE BATMAN OR ROBIN RIGHT NOW, BUT I DID APPRECIATE THE REFERENCE.

THAT BEING SAID, MY QUESTION TO YOU COUNCILLOR PEARCE IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS A REVIEW AND A COMPARISON.

AS FAR AS THE DIFFERENCE THAT WOULD MAKE FOR MUNICIPALITY TO GO BACK TO MUNICIPAL POLICE FORCE OVER THE OPP.

MY OWN PREFERENCE, YOUR YOUR WORSHIP WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD GO TO A MUNICIPAL POLICE FORCE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO TRY AND DETERMINE THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL, I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT DEBATE.

I THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT DEBATE.

I BELIEVE VERY FIRMLY THAT THE CURRENT CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE SIGNED WITH THE OPP IS NOT BEING LIVED UP TO THE OPP ARE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE POLICE SERVICES AS A MUNICIPAL POLICE FORCE AS WELL AS A PROVINCIAL POLICE FORCE, WHICH INCLUDES THE ENFORCEMENT OF MUTUALLY AGREED UPON BYLAWS.

THEY DON'T ENFORCE ANY OF OUR BYLAWS.

I ONCE ASKED COMMANDER STURGEON, I SAID, I KNOW WHAT YOUR MANDATE IS AS A PROVINCIAL POLICE FORCE, WHAT'S YOUR MANDATE AS A MUNICIPAL POLICE FORCE.

AND HE DIDN'T HAVE AN ANSWER.

THAT'S A PRETTY DAMNING THING.

A MUNICIPAL POLICE FORCE, AMONG OTHER THINGS, IS VISIBLE, HIGHLY VISIBLE, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS WHERE THERE'S TROUBLE.

COUNCILLOR FINAMORE MENTIONED IN A MEETING TODAY ABOUT THE FIRE WHEN THERE WERE PEOPLE JAMMING THE ROADS BECAUSE THEY ALL WANTED TO GO SEE THE FIRE.

WELL, THAT'S THE POLICE'S JOB.

NOT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THAT'S THE POLICE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GET OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH EITHER AMBULANCES OR FIRE ENGINES OR ANYTHING ELSE.

THAT'S THEIR JOB. BUT THEY WEREN'T THERE.

WELL, I I HAVE A FEELING THAT WE'RE JUST NOT GETTING THE KIND OF SERVICE THAT WE DESERVE AND WE'RE PAYING A HECK OF A LOT OF MONEY FOR IT.

I HAVE NO IDEA OF THE DIFFERENCES IN COST BETWEEN A MUNICIPAL AND A PROVINCIAL POLICE FORCE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

BUT I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S WORTH IT'S A VIABLE SOLUTION FOR US. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.

I'D LIKE TO THANK COUNCILLOR PEARCE FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

NOW THAT THE OPP HAVE FINALLY SETTLED MY LAWSUIT AFTER OVER A DECADE, I CAN FINALLY TALK ABOUT THIS AND I DON'T HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

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HOWEVER, THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD IS SUPPOSED TO OVERSEE AND MONITOR THE CONTRACT AND ENSURE WE'RE GETTING THE OFFICERS AND ARE BEING BILLED FOR THE OFFICERS THAT ARE SCHEDULED AND OPERATING WITHIN OUR MUNICIPALITY.

NOT JUST THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SCHEDULED HERE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO STAY HERE.

WE'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR THEM WHILE THEY'RE HERE, NOT WHILE THEY GO DOWN TO THE NORTH SHORE. THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PROVIDED TO THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD.

I DON'T KNOW IF, ACCORDING TO WHAT COUNCILLOR PEARCE SAID, THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY HAPPENING. I DON'T KNOW COUNCILLOR FINAMORE USED TO SIT ON THIS YEAR'S BACK AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE WERE RECEIVING THAT INFORMATION THEN, BUT I'M SURE WHEN SHE SPEAKS, SHE CAN BRING THAT FORWARD AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT.

BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IT'S THE POLICE SERVICES MAN.

POLICE SERVICES BOARD MANDATE IS THAT THE THEY'RE TO ADMINISTER THE CONTRACT, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT BEING OVERBILLED, OR THAT WE'RE GETTING CREDITS BACK FOR SERVICES THAT AREN'T PERFORMED.

THERE'S THAT THERE'S SOME OF THE OTHER CONCERNS THAT I HAVE WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE SAID.

WHETHER THERE ARE POLICE OR THE OPP, WE CAN'T MANDATE WHERE THEY LIVE, BUT THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE CURRENT OPP FORCE THAT DO LIVE IN THIS MUNICIPALITY, SO I JUST DON'T WANT TO PAINT EVERYBODY WITH THE SAME BRUSH.

AND EVEN IF WE DO, EVEN IF WE WERE TO CONVERT BACK TO A MUNICIPAL FORCE, WE CAN'T MANDATE WHERE THOSE PEOPLE LIVE. WE HAVE CURRENT STAFF MEMBERS THAT DON'T LIVE WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY AS IT IS, AND I'M NOT GOING TO ASK OUR CEO TO TELL PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE TO MOVE HERE OR THEY CAN'T WORK FOR US.

SO THAT ASPECT, I I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT AND I APPRECIATE THE ENTHUSIASM I WOULD APPRECIATE IF ALL THOSE MEMBERS DID LIVE IN THE MUNICIPALITY AS WELL.

WE CAN'T MANDATE THAT THAT'S AGAINST THEIR RIGHTS.

BUT ANOTHER ADDED COST CONCERN, AND I'VE SAID THIS AT BUDGET TIMES.

NOT ONLY ARE WE PAYING NEARLY $3 MILLION A YEAR, BUT WE'RE ONE OF THE ONLY MUNICIPALITIES THAT IS ACTUALLY SUPPLYING A BUILDING.

WE'RE SUPPLYING THEIR MAINTENANCE, WE'RE DOING THEIR CLEANING, WE'RE CHANGING THEIR LIGHT BULBS. THIS IS ABOVE AND BEYOND THE ALMOST $3 MILLION THAT WE'RE PAYING THEM, THAT WE HAVE A FACILITY THAT WE CURRENTLY USE.

SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO.

WE HAVE TO HAVE STAFF LOOKED AT THIS AT SOME POINT SOMEHOW.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE AS A MUNICIPALITY CHOOSE TO HAVE OUR OWN CITY POLICE THAT THE OPP MUST STILL PATROL AND ATTEND MAJOR CRIME.

AND AS THE MAYOR SAID, THOSE TASKS FOR TASK FORCES STILL HAVE TO ATTEND.

AND THAT DOESN'T COST THE MUNICIPALITY ANY MONEY.

SO THERE STILL HAS TO BE AN OPP PRESENCE THAT IS COVERED UNDER THE PROVINCIAL TAXATION.

EVEN IF WE DO HAVE MUNICIPAL POLICING, SO I THINK WHEN STAFF LOOKS AT THIS, I WOULD LIKE THAT TO COME FORWARD AS WELL SO THAT WHAT POLICING ASPECTS FROM THE PROVINCE STILL GET APPLIED TO THE MUNICIPALITY THAT ARE NOT AT A COST.

I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE PART OF THAT REPORT COMING FORWARD.

I AGREE WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

THE CRIME IS ASTRONOMICAL, THERE'S BUSINESSES BEING ROBBED, THERE'S CARS BEING BROKEN INTO. THE CRIME IS EXTREME HERE.

I KNOW SOMEBODY WHO HAD AN ISSUE WHERE THEIR BUSINESS WAS BROKEN INTO AND DISPATCH TOLD THEM HOW THE POLICE STATIONS JUST DOWN THE ROAD, THEY'LL BE THERE IN MINUTES.

NOBODY SHOWED UP FOR HALF AN HOUR.

THEY TOLD THEM TO WAIT IN THE PARKING LOT.

WELL, THAT'S SORRY ABOUT MY LANGUAGE, YOUR WORSHIP.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE TELLING A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO SIT THERE AND WAIT, YOU DON'T KNOW IF THAT CULPRIT IS STILL WITHIN THE FACILITY.

I JUST SO I DO HAVE A LOT OF MAJOR CONCERNS, AND THEREFORE I'M IN TOTAL FAVOR OF STAFF INVESTIGATING AND DOING A REPORT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE'RE INFORMED AND CAN MAKE A DECISION IF WE HAVE TO ACT AND SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LAPSE IN SERVICE TO GET ORGANIZED IF WE'RE GOING TO CONVERT TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR IF WE'RE GOING TO RENEGOTIATE WITH THE OPP PRIOR TO THIS CURRENT CONTRACT ENDING.

AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT, THERE'S A LOT MORE I COULD GO ON AND ON, AND I JUST WE DO HAVE TO BE DONE WITH THIS MEETING BY 11:00.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PATRIE. JUST TO ANSWER ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS DOES THE POLICE

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AND THERE IS A FEW THINGS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO, BUT AS FAR AS DETAILED INFORMATION, WE DO NOT GET DETAILED INFORMATION.

AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

THERE'S A DUDE SELLING CRYSTAL METH ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN OUR TOWN, SHOWING WHAT HE HAS.

WHY IS THAT GUY NOT IN JAIL RIGHT NOW? THERE'S A GUY THAT I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH, GOES TO JAIL FOR BREAK AND ENTER EVERY YEAR. THAT'S A HUGE PROBLEM WITH OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM, NOT OUR OPP BECAUSE HE GETS CAUGHT IN BROAD DAYLIGHT.

WE GET THE STATISTICAL INFORMATION, BUT WE DON'T GET IT BROKEN DOWN INTO DETAILS, AND WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OR GET ANSWERS ON ON DETAILS BECAUSE THERE'S ESSENTIALLY INDIVIDUALS THE SAME REASON WE GO INTO CLOSED SESSION PROTECTING PRIVACY, BUT IT DOESN'T HELP US IN THAT IN THESE SITUATIONS ANYWAY.

I HAVE COUNCILLOR MANN AND FOLLOWED BY COUNCILLOR CYR.

COUNCILLOR FINAMORE COUNCILLOR MANN, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

A LOT OF US AROUND THE TABLE TONIGHT WERE HERE WHEN THE ELLIOT LAKE POLICE DEPARTMENT CLOSED THEIR DOORS WHEN WE INITIALLY WENT TO THE OPP.

AND NOW WE'RE HAVING AND AGAIN, I MUST ADMIT, I WAS A LITTLE A LITTLE SURPRISED TO OPEN MY PACKAGE AND SEE THIS THIS EVENING.

BUT IT IS BEFORE US COUNCILLOR PEARCE AND WE WILL DEAL WITH IT.

CLEARLY, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED WOULD HAVE BEEN MINE.

WE DO HAVE A POLICE SERVICE AS BOARD.

IT IS THE LIAISON BETWEEN THE MUNICIPALITY AND THE OPP, AND I HAVE SOME OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT WE NEED TO TRANSITION BACK AWAY FROM BACK TO OUR OWN FORCE WHEN ESPANOLA, AS AN EXAMPLE, HAS RECENTLY GONE AWAY FROM THEIR OWN FORCE AND GONE TO THE OPP.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS I'M NOT HEARING ANY.

I'M HEARING WE DO A REPORT ABOUT COSTINGS AND THINGS, BUT WHAT ABOUT SITTING DOWN AND STARTING A DIALOG AND SAYING, LOOK, WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM AND LET'S UNLESS THAT'S BEEN DONE AND I'M NOT ARTICULATING MYSELF PROPERLY, AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT I THINK BEFORE OR AS PART OF THIS, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A CHAT.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A FORMAL CHAT AND IT'S A COUNCIL CHAT WITH THE OPP.

LET'S NOT CALL IT A CHAT.

LET'S CALL IT A MEETING.

IF WE AS A MUNICIPALITY HAVE CONCERNS, I THINK WE NEED TO ARTICULATE THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, WE ARE PAYING $2.7 MILLION PER YEAR FOR POLICE SERVICES.

I DON'T BELIEVE SITTING HERE TONIGHT THAT WE COULD DO IT ANY CHEAPER.

I DON'T BELIEVE TO START UP AGAIN.

I BELIEVE INITIALLY WE WERE ALL ADVISED AS A COMMUNITY THAT THE OPP IN THE LONG RUN WOULD BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE.

AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT TREND LASTED FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME.

BUT AGAIN, BACK IN THE DAY, THAT'S WHAT I THINK THE MUNICIPALITY WAS TOLD.

THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES HERE, BUT I BELIEVE COUNCIL NEEDS TO SET UP A MEETING THROUGH OUR ADMINISTRATION STAFF MR. GAGNON AND TRY TO TRY TO START TO RESOLVE SOME OF THIS.

AND IF THERE'S A WOUND, LET'S TRY TO HEAL THIS.

WE CAN STILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF REVIEW AND FIND OUT WHAT'S NEEDED.

BUT THEY ARE STILL OUR POLICE FORCE TODAY, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEND ANY OTHER MESSAGES THAN THAT BECAUSE WE STILL NEED POLICING ON THESE STREETS TOMORROW AND THE NEXT DAY WHILE WE DO THIS, AND HOPEFULLY WE DO IT AS A AS A JOINT PROJECT AND HAVE THEM WITH US WORKING WITH US AS OPPOSED TO THIS.

WHAT I'M HEARING IS TO BE A VOID OF INFORMATION.

A COUPLE OF US SIT ON THE ON THE ON THE AD SUB BOARD.

WE REGULARLY RECEIVE SERVICE VOLUMES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WHICH YOU WOULD EXPECT FROM AMBULANCE SERVICES IN THE PROVINCE.

WE GET THAT REGULARLY.

HOWEVER, WE ALSO GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON ON EXPECTATIONS OF THAT TYPE OF SERVICE.

I WOULD HOPE THERE WOULD BE CERTAIN NON SENSITIVE INFORMATION THAT COULD BE SHARED WITH THE MUNICIPALITY THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW.

WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY, SO AGAIN JUST MY COMMENTS FOR NOW, THANK YOU.

YOU COUNCILLOR CYR.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO DELVE INTO A REVIEW, BUT I THINK IT'S.

I THINK THE SCOPE IS TOO SMALL, I THINK, PERSONALLY THAT THAT REVIEW SHOULD PROBABLY BE DOING BE DONE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS OF ALL DEPARTMENTS, NOT EVERY DEPARTMENT ANNUALLY, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD INITIATE A REVIEW OF ALL OUR DEPARTMENTS SO THAT WE COULD GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF VALUE FOR TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR SERVICES RENDERED.

MAYBE SOME DEPARTMENTS, WE'RE NOT SPENDING ENOUGH, MAYBE SOME DEPARTMENTS, WE'RE

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AND WE'RE ALWAYS AT THE MERCY OF OUR DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE COMING TO THE BUDGET. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE SNOWBALLING US, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO DUE DILIGENCE TO OUR CITIZENS BY MAKING SURE THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE ALL BEING MANAGED EFFECTIVELY WITH THE PROPER AMOUNT OF BUDGETING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK I THINK IT'S A GOOD START BY STARTING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THIS YEAR.

BY FORGETTING AN ESTIMATE OF.

WHAT SERVICES WE'RE GETTING NOW FOR OUR BUCKS AND WHAT THE COST OF MUNICIPAL GETTING OUR OWN MUNICIPAL POLICE FORCE COULD BE JUST SO THAT WE CAN COMPARE APPLES AND ORANGES AND APPLES AND APPLES, AND THEN THAT GIVES US A GOOD STARTING POINT TO DIALOG.

IT'S MUCH EASIER TO TALK TO SOMEBODY WHEN YOU HAVE ALTERNATIVES THAN WHEN YOU HAVE NO CHOICES. YOU GET A LOT MORE RESULTS.

SO LIKE I SAID, COUNCILLOR PEARCE, I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD MOTION, BUT I THINK THIS COUNCIL AND FUTURE COUNCILS NEED TO REALLY TAKE LONG REVIEWS OF EACH DEPARTMENT'S, NOT JUST THIS ONE, BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD START.

COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. [INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

I DID SIT ON THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AS A CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE REP AND AS AN ONTARIO REP.

AND THE ONE THING THAT I FELT WAS LACKING ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME, WE HAD GREAT COMMUNICATION MONTHLY AND WE WERE GIVEN LOTS OF STATS AND THE STATS ARE BROKE DOWN AND THERE BROKE DOWN A LOT DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY ARE TODAY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT PROCESS CHANGED OR WHY IT CHANGED, BUT IT DID CHANGE.

BUT WE NEVER GOT ANY TRAINING ON WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS OF A POLICE SERVICE BOARD WAS.

I KNOW IT WAS THAT WE WOULD MONITOR THE CONTRACT.

WE NEVER MONITORED A CONTRACT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY INPUT INTO A CONTRACT.

THE CONTRACT CAME, IT WAS SIGNED AND THE WAY A WAY IT WENT, WE ASKED AT THE TIME FOR TRAINING. AND SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

ONE OF THEM IS TO LOOK AT THE MUNICIPALITY, GIVING THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD ACCESS TO SOME KIND OF A BUDGET THAT CAN ALLOW FOR PROPER TRAINING OF MEMBERS ON BOARDS LIKE THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD, WHICH IS AN OUTSIDE INSIDE COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW.

IT'S A COMMITTEE THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ASSIGNING ALMOST $3 MILLION YEARLY TO, AND I THINK THAT WHEN I WAS ON IT, I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE HAD A MORE ACTIVE ROLE.

WE WERE ABLE TO DO SOME THINGS, BUT I THINK THAT I THINK THAT THIS YEAR, EVERYONE'S VERY FRUSTRATED. THE PROVINCE CAME DOWN WITH NEW RULES.

THEY WERE VERY UNCLEAR AS TO WHAT DIRECTION AND WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE.

I THINK THAT A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS, A LOT OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS, A LOT OF MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS WERE AT LOGGERHEADS OVER RULES THAT WERE BEING MADE BY OTHER PEOPLE THAT NOBODY KNEW WHAT CLEAR ENFORCEMENT WAS.

SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION THAT AT THE END OF THIS LAST 20.

I DON'T KNOW, 22 MONTHS, 21 MONTHS, THAT IT'S BEEN VERY FRUSTRATING FOR EVERYBODY TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S RESPONSIBLE.

I AGREE WITH WHAT MAYOR MARCHISELLA SAID THAT THIS IS A IF IF THERE'S SOMEONE DOING A BREAK AND ENTER AND THEY'RE BACK OUT TWO DAYS LATER THE NEXT DAY, THAT'S THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. THE POLICE DO NOT OPEN THEIR JAILS AND LET PEOPLE OUT JUST FOR [EXPLITIVE] AND GIGGLES. SORRY, THEY DON'T.

THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LETTER OF THE LAW.

I WANT TO LOOK AT THIS AT A DIFFERENT APPROACH.

I WOULD LIKE TO DO A REVIEW OF THE COSTING OF THE OPP.

MAYBE WE DON'T PAY ENOUGH.

MAYBE THEY NEED MORE MONEY FOR MORE OFFICERS IN ORDER TO BETTER SERVICE OUR COMMUNITY.

WE DON'T KNOW UNLESS WE START HAVING AN OPEN DIALOG WITH THEM AND SIT DOWN AND FIND OUT WHAT WHAT EXACTLY ARE THE NEEDS THAT? WHAT ARE THE GAPS WE'VE.

THE COUNSELING CENTER BASED ALGOMA, UNDER THE DIRECTION OF [INAUDIBLE] AND OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, THE HOARDING COALITION MENTAL HEALTH STRATEGIES.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GOOD WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT GO BY THE WAYSIDE.

I WANT TO SEE THAT CARRIED ON BECAUSE IT'S ADDED VALUE AND IT'S GOING TO HELP ANYBODY DO THEIR JOB BETTER, WHETHER IT'S CITY STAFF, WHETHER IT'S BY LAW, WHETHER IT'S FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHETHER IT'S BUILDING, WHETHER IT'S OPP, WHATEVER IT IS.

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SORRY, MS. SONNENBURG, WE MAY HAVE ADDED A SIXTH DAY OF YOUR BUDGET PROCESS TO TAKE A GOOD DIVE INTO WHAT SERVICES WE'RE GETTING.

I KNOW THAT WHEN I WAS ON THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD, WE WERE THERE SECTION 10 OF SECTION 5 OR YOU WERE NOTHING.

NOW IT'S NOW I BELIEVE IT'S PAID PER CAPITA PER PERSON.

THERE'S AN AMOUNT THAT'S PAID.

SO WE PAY THE LARGEST AMOUNT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE LARGEST POPULATION IN THE AREA.

DOES THAT, IN MY MIND, THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE MORE OFFICERS ON THE ON THE GROUND HERE? THAT'S TO ME. WHAT THAT MEANS IS EVERYONE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT PAYS TAXES IS PAYING DOLLARS PER HOUSEHOLD INTO INTO POLICING.

I KNOW THAT WE PAY TAXES FOR EVERYTHING ELSE, TOO.

BUT BUT THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THERE.

AND IF PEOPLE THINK THE EXPECTATIONS AREN'T BEING MET, THEN WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE OPP [INAUDIBLE].

I DON'T THINK I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN OFFICERS THAT HAVE COME FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES HERE TO HELP WHEN THEY'VE BEEN SHORT, AS WE HAVE SENT OFFICERS TO OTHER COMMUNITIES WHEN THEY'RE SHORT. AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT YOU.

THAT'S THE WAY THAT THINGS WORK IN THIS DAY AND AGE.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COME FORWARD AND DO A REALLY GOOD DELVE INTO THE COST ANALYSIS AND THE SERVICES, AND THEY TALK ABOUT WHAT THE PROBLEMS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE PSAS GIVEN OUT BY THE OPP.

I THINK THAT THAT'S A PLACE THAT COULD IMMEDIATELY CHANGE.

I THINK THAT.

UH, EVEN IF THEY'RE RUMORS THAT ARE GOING ON, I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE PEOPLE.

I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP.

I THINK THAT THERE'S ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW A BETTER HAND AND A BETTER FACE AND AND TO HAVE AND TO SHOW THAT THE THAT WE ARE A COMMUNITY THAT WORKS TOGETHER, THAT THE OPP, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHATEVER [INAUDIBLE] ARE ALL PART OF, OF A OF A OF A WHOLE WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS ENOUGH EDUCATION THAT IS GIVEN OUT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC FROM THE QUESTIONS AND THE CALLS AND THE EMAILS THAT I GET WANTING TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. THERE'S LOTS OF GOALS OUT IN THIS COMMUNITY.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, IS IT MY BUSINESS TO KNOW ABOUT? I THINK IT'S MY BUSINESS TO BE ABLE TO TELL TO A CITIZEN THAT'S CALLING ME.

IT'S OK. YOU KNOW, THE POLICE ARE HANDLING IT.

THE FIRE WAS OK, WHATEVER IT IS.

I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE AWARE BEFORE THE PHONE CALL IS COMING INSTEAD OF BEING CAUGHT WITH.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, THAT HAPPENED THREE DAYS AGO HERE.

AND YOU KNOW, THE BUZZ IS NOT THE MEDIA.

THE BUZZ IS NOT THE OPP.

AND THE BUZZ IS NOT WHERE WE SHOULD ALL BE LOOKING FOR INFORMATION.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S A LOT OF THE ONLY WAY THAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING INFORMATION THESE DAYS. WHETHER IT'S BAD INFORMATION, MISINFORMATION, IT'S WHAT'S OUT THERE.

SO I JUST THINK THAT WE COULD ALL WORK TOGETHER BETTER.

AND I THINK THAT STARTING TO TAKE A DOVE INTO.

ARE WE PAYING? LIKE, DO WE NEED MORE? IF IF I THINK CRIME IS ON THE RISE? MAYBE I'M WRONG.

MAYBE WE'RE JUST HEARING ABOUT IT MORE, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I HAVEN'T LEFT MY I'VE LIVED HERE SINCE 1979.

I LOCK MY DOORS.

I LIVED HERE FOR ALL THESE YEARS AND NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT LOCKING MY DOOR.

AND NOW I LOCK THE DOOR WHEN I RUN TO THE CORNER STORE AND AND THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE AND I DON'T LIKE LIVING LIKE THAT.

I DON'T LIKE LIVING. I'M IN A BIG CITY.

THAT'S WHY I LIVE IN NORTHERN ONTARIO BECAUSE I WANTED TO TO BE ABLE TO TO FEEL SAFER AND THAT THAT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING ON JUST HERE.

I THINK IT'S GOING ON EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY FOR NOW.

BUT I HOPE THAT WE MOVE THIS TO THE BUDGET PROCESS TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT I STATED.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR TURNER.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP. I SUPPORT I SUPPORT THE COUNCILLOR PEARCE'S MOTION, I THINK IT'S WORTH THE REVIEW.

I'M NOT SURE THAT.

THAT IT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE SENT TO STAFF.

THIS IS COUNCIL'S CONCERN AND COUNCIL SHOULD DISCUSS IT TOGETHER.

AS FOR THE CONTRACT WITH THE OPP.

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ONCE THEY GOT YOU, PRICE GOES UP.

HOW OUR LATEST CONTRACT WITH COMPARED TO WHAT WAS JUST OFFERED, IF AT ALL, WOULD BE INTERESTING TO COMPARE.

I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS SIMILAR TO WHAT I'VE HEARD MENTIONED, BUT THE COMMUNITY POLICING ASPECT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S.

THERE'S DAYS THAT GO BY WE.

RARELY, IF EVER, SEE A CAR AROUND TOWN, EVEN IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

AND AND I WONDER CONSIDERING OUR POPULATION WHERE THE STANDING PATROLS ARE, OR IF THERE ARE THINGS LIKE THAT, THE OPP IS A POLICE FORCE THAT SUPPLIES US WITH MEMBERS, SOME WHO HAVE ACTUALLY ESTABLISHED ROOTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE NO INTEREST IN LEAVING.

AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S A TRANSIENT GROUP OF OFFICERS MOVING ON TO THE NEXT JOB.

SO THIS IS JUST THE POSTING.

SO AS FOR BENEFITS, YOU GET THE BENEFIT OF THEIR WELL-ESTABLISHED, WELL-TRAINED MAJOR CRIME UNITS AND THEIR LABORATORIES.

SO WE CERTAINLY COULDN'T AFFORD THAT WITH THE MUNICIPAL FORCE.

HOWEVER, COUNCILLOR PATRIE POINTED OUT THE OPP WOULD HAVE TO SUPPLY IT TO US.

NOW WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN CHARGE.

I'M NOT SURE, BUT I THINK WE DO.

THEIR BILLING SYSTEM, WHEN YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT IT, THEY ESSENTIALLY COUNT FOR THE TIME TAKEN FOR EVERY PERSON WHO HANDLES A PIECE OF PAPER RELATED TO THAT FILE.

AND IT JUST MOVES UP AND UP AND UP, AND EVERYBODY GETS A PIECE OF THE ACTION AND PIECE OF THEIR SALARIES COVERED BY IT.

TO ME, IT'S A IT'S A QUESTIONABLE WAY OF MANAGEMENT ACCOUNTING IS THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF IS SOMEBODY WHO'S TRYING TO TUNE US UP TO THE BEST THEY CAN.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SOME KIND OF REVIEW.

PERHAPS WE CAN DISCUSS THE POLICE VERSUS POPULATION RATIO THAT'S IN PLACE.

IT'S CERTAINLY HIGHER THAN IT IS IN RCMP CONTRACT PROVINCES WHERE THEY [INAUDIBLE] PROVINCIAL POLICE SO.

IT'S WORTH DISCUSSING, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. IT'S BEEN PRETTY GOOD DISCUSSION.

ACTUALLY, I'M VERY PLEASED WITH A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE.

A COUPLE OF POINTS. I THINK FIRST OF ALL, COUNCILLOR PATRIE IS RIGHT.

WE DO HAVE A POLICE SERVICES BOARD AND IT IS AS WRITTEN IN THE IN THE MP SERVICES ACT THAT IT IS A RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BOARD TO OVERSEE TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT TO THE LOCAL DETACHMENT. I CAN SAY FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE CERTAINLY IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, I'VE NOT SEEN MUCH IN THE WAY OF CONTROL OF THE DETACHMENT OR EVEN MAJOR DISCUSSIONS CONCERNING THE THE METHODS AND.

MAJOR CONCERNS OF THE POLICE OR OF THE COMMUNITY WHEN WE GET INTO THIS, WE GET A STATISTICAL REPORT.

WHICH IS PRETTY DRIED, CUT AND DRIED, AND WE ALSO GET A REPORT, AS COUNCILLOR TURNER POINTS OUT, WHICH REMINDS ME A GREAT DEAL OF MY LAWYER'S BILLS.

YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING EVERYBODY DOES WE GET CHARGED FOR AND WE GET TO GET HIT WITH A BILL ON IT. AS FOR WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE LIVING IN THIS COMMUNITY, I'M NOT AGAIN, I WANT TO REEMPHASIZE, I'M NOT SLAGGING INDIVIDUAL POLICEMEN.

IT'S THE SYSTEM I'M UPSET WITH.

IT'S THE WAY WE ARE BEING FRANKLY UNDER YOU.

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BY THE WAY THIS THING IS BEING PUT TOGETHER.

THERE IS WITHIN THE CONTRACT THAT WE SIGNED CERTAIN PROVISIONS, WHICH ARE DEFINITELY NOT BEING MET. THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN MET AS FAR AS I CAN DETERMINE.

THERE IS ALSO A PROVISION IN THERE THAT ALLOWS FOR A CONFLICT RESOLUTION, WHICH I WOULD SUGGEST WHEN IT GOES BACK TO SOMETHING THAT COUNCILLOR MANN SAID, WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE A SIT DOWN DISCUSSION EITHER WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE BOARD OR REPRESENTATIVES OF COUNCIL. AND I WOULD SUGGEST COUNCIL WOULD BE THE BETTER ONE TO GO AND REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMISSIONER AND THE COMMANDER.

MAYBE THAT'S THE WAY WE START IT OUT.

I DON'T KNOW. BUT THERE'S ALSO A PROVISION THAT SAYS IF WE WANT TO WITHDRAW FROM ANY AGREEMENT THAT WE PROVIDE THAT IN WRITING AND ONE YEAR LATER, TO THE DATE THAT THEY RECEIVED THE LETTER THAT THEY WOULD THEN WITHDRAW.

IN THE MEANTIME, THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SERVICES THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS OR HAS CONTRACTED FOR.

SO THAT CAN BE DONE.

I AM NOT SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO GO TO A MUNICIPAL POLICE FORCE, THAT'S MY OWN PREFERENCE, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M AIMING FOR.

WHAT I'M AIMING FOR IS ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND CURRENTLY I DO NOT SEE ANY ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THE CURRENT ARRANGEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE OPP. AND IF WE DON'T BEGIN TO TAKE ACTION EITHER THROUGH THIS COUNCIL.

OR THROUGH SOME SORT OF MITIGATION PROCESS, THEN WE WILL CERTAINLY LOSE CONTROL OF ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT THE OPP DOES OR DOES NOT DO IN OUR COMMUNITY IF THEY ARE WORKING FOR US AS THE CONTRACT STATES THEY ARE.

THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE THE INPUT THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

AS YOU SAID, THIS IS NOT TO SLIGHT THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE BE VERY, VERY CLEAR, AS COUNCILLOR FINAMORE STATED.

BASICALLY, YOUR CONTRACT IS A BLATANT HERE'S SECTION 5 OR SECTION 10.

YOU CHOOSE A CONTRACT.

THERE'S IT'S PRE-WRITTEN, WE'RE NOT NEGOTIATING CONTRACTS WITH THEM.

THIS IS COMING FROM THE SOLICITOR GENERAL.

WHICH TYPE OF CONTRACT DO YOU WANT TO PAY FOR? YOU'RE PAYING FOR BILLED HOURS OF SERVICE AND A LOT OF OVERTIME.

AND BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT JUST SERVING ELLIOT LAKE, THEY'RE SERVING THE WHOLE DISTRICT.

NO, WE'RE NOT SEEING A GREAT AMOUNT OF PATROLLING ON A REGULAR BASIS.

ANOTHER ONE THAT CAME FROM THE SOLICITOR GENERAL'S OFFICE WAS THE ONE BOARD CONCEPT.

SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

MAYBE ONE BOARD WE'VE COME OUT MR. ANTUNES PUT IN OUR REQUEST TO HAVE THREE DISTRICT BOARDS BECAUSE ONE BOARD FOR THE WHOLE ALGOMA DISTRICT IS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE FOR POLICING.

IT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SLATING OUR POLICE OFFICERS, THIS IS CONTRACT WITH THE SOLICITOR GENERAL.

WE HAD ONE ONE POSITION THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FINAGLE AS A COMMUNITY CENTRIC OFFICER, AND THAT'S CONSTABLE PHIL YOUNG'S POSITION.

WE WERE ABLE TO SAY WHAT WE NEED A POSITION, ESPECIALLY FOR ELLIOT LAKE TAKE CARE OF SENIORS ISSUES ALONG WITH THE THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAMING AND A WHOLE LINE OF OTHER THINGS. AND CONSTABLE PHIL YOUNG DOES AN AMAZING JOB.

PRIOR TO COVID, I WAS ABLE TO SET UP SHOP ON A REGULAR BASIS AT THE EVENT CENTER.

IN [INAUDIBLE] ANSWER, QUESTIONS TALK TO SENIORS ABOUT THEIR ISSUES.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SET UP MENTAL HEALTH OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR AREA.

BUT AGAIN, WE'RE WE'RE SEEING.

HERE'S YOUR BILLABLE HOURS OF SERVICE.

I KNOW THE OPPS SHORT STAFFED IN OUR DISTRICT, SO WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF OVERTIME ADDED TO OUR BILLABLE HOURS OF SERVICE WITH LESS PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GETTING.

INSTEAD OF HAVING FIVE OFFICERS ON DUTY SAY YOU ONLY HAVE FOUR AND ONE HAS TO WORK OVERTIME, THAT'S NOT HELPING OUR SITUATION.

AND THAT AGAIN IS NOT AN ISSUE FROM THE LOCAL DETACHMENT THAT'S FROM HIGHER UP ALONG WITH OUR CONTRACT.

BIG PROBLEM IS IF THEY LEGALIZE MARIJUANA.

FUNDING WAS SUPPOSED TO ADDITIONAL FUNDING WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GOING TO POLICING TO HELP REMOVE THE HARDER NARCOTICS OFF OUR STREETS.

WHAT DID WE SEE INSTEAD? YOU SEE CENTRALIZED LOCATIONS FOR TASK FORCE LIKE NORTH BAY.

THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR ELLIOT LAKE WHEN WE'RE SEEING FENTANYL ON OUR STREETS, WE'RE SEEING CRYSTAL METH ON OUR STREETS.

WE HAVE AN OLD CENTER WITH THESE POOR PEOPLE COMING HERE TO GET HELP AND THEY WALK OUT THE DOOR AND THERE'S PEOPLE SOLICITING DRUGS RIGHT THERE.

WHY? IT GOES BACK AGAIN TO THE HIERARCHIES THAT SAY WE NEED OUR SPECIAL CRIME UNIT IN

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WE DEFINITELY NEED TO.

THIS ISN'T A BUDGET PIECE.

WE NEED TO REVIEW THE WHOLE SYSTEM, NOT JUST FINANCIAL.

WHAT'S OUR BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK FOR OUR CITIZENS? IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PAYING FOR 20 OFFICERS, WELL, WE BETTER BE PAYING FOR THOSE 20 OFFICERS TO BE TAKING CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WHEN WE KNOW THAT THERE'S ORGANIZED CRIME RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD AND EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

[INAUDIBLE] OUR COPS SHOULD BETTER GET DOWN THERE AND BUST SOME DOORS OPEN LIKE THEY USED TO DO 20 YEARS AGO.

THAT ISN'T HAPPENING. WHY? BECAUSE THE CRIME UNITS IN NORTH BAY, THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT ELLIOT LAKE.

THAT'S A PART OF THE REVIEW.

WE NEED TO REVIEW WHAT WE'RE GETTING FOR OUR DOLLARS FOR OUR TAXPAYERS.

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH THIS.

AND I'M GOING TO CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE RIGHT NOW, COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

ABSOLUTELY IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR PEARCE IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR TURNER IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR CYR IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

[13. COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS]

IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR MANN FAVOR, I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED, THANK YOU.

OH, AND WE'RE ON TO EVERYONE'S FAVORITE PART OF THE NIGHT.

IT'S COUNCILS REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

I'M GOING TO START OUT WITH A ANOTHER PROCLAMATION.

OK, WHEREAS VIOLENCE CONTINUES TO BE THE GREATEST GENDER INEQUALITY RIGHTS ISSUE FOR WOMEN, GIRLS AND GENDER DIVERSE INDIVIDUALS.

WHEREAS NOVEMBER IS WOMEN ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH, AND WHEREAS GENDER BASED VIOLENCE IS A RIGHT, A HUMAN RIGHT ISSUE WHICH OUR COMMUNITY MUST WORK TOGETHER TO ADDRESS, PREVENT AND ADDRESS THROUGH PUBLIC AWARENESS AND EDUCATION.

AND WHEREAS ONE IN THREE WOMEN WILL EXPERIENCE GENDER BASED VIOLENCE IN THEIR LIFETIME AND THESE NUMBERS INCREASE EXPONENTIALLY FOR BLACK, INDIGENOUS AND WOMEN OF COLOR.

WHEREAS THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC HAS INCREASED BARRIERS TO SUPPORT AND SERVICES FOR SURVIVORS. OF GENDER BASED VIOLENCE AND THEIR CHILDREN.

AND WHEREAS LAST YEAR IN ONTARIO, EVERY 13 DAYS, A WOMAN OR CHILD WAS KILLED BY A MAN KNOWN TO THEM, WITH THE MAJORITY BEING THEIR CURRENT OR FORMER INTIMATE PARTNER.

WHEREAS THIS MONTH AND THROUGHOUT THE 16 DAYS OF ACTIVISM AGAINST GENDER BASED VIOLENCE, WE ACKNOWLEDGE OUR COMMUNITY'S SUPPORT OF THE WRAPPED ENCOURAGE CAMPAIGN COMMITMENT TO ENDING GENDER BASED VIOLENCE.

WHEREAS ON NOVEMBER 25TH THE INTERNATIONAL DAY FOR THE ELIMINATION OF VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN WRAPPED IN COURAGE, 2021 CAMPAIGN FLAG WILL BE RAISED IN RECOGNITION OF THE COURAGE OF A WOMAN ALONE IS NOT ENOUGH.

IT TAKES AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY TO END GENDER BASED VIOLENCE.

NOW, THEREFORE, I DAN MAARCHISELLA THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE DO HEREBY PROCLAIM AND DECLARE THAT NOVEMBER 25TH, 2021 SHALL BE KNOWN AS THE INTERNATIONAL DAY FOR THE ELIMINATION OF VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN.

URGE ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THIS DAY BY TAKING ACTION TO SUPPORT SURVIVORS OF GENDER BASED VIOLENCE, BECOMING PART OF ONTARIO WIDE EFFORT TO END GENDER BASED VIOLENCE.

OK OUR NEXT PIECE FOR COUNCILS REPORT.

NOTICE A PUBLIC MEETING, CONCERN PROPOSED ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT [INAUDIBLE] COURT.

AND 143 [INAUDIBLE] BELL DRIVE.

THE PUBLIC MEETING WILL BE ON THE 6TH DAY OF DECEMBER, 2021 AT 6 P.M.

VIA ZOOM. ANY PERSON INTERESTED MAY BY WAY OF SIGN A WRITTEN SUBMISSION, PROVIDE COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS.

SUCH SUBMISSIONS SHALL BE ACCEPTED BY THE CITY CLERK PRIOR TO THE HEARING BY DECEMBER 1ST 2021. SUCH WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS SHALL BE AVAILABLE FOR INSPECTION BY ANY INTERESTED PERSON. IF YOU WISH TO ATTEND OR PROVIDE COMMENTS AT THE PUBLIC MEETING, PLEASE CONTACT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AT 705-848-2287 EXT.

2183.

OR AT CLERK@ELLIOTLAKE.CA.

THAT'S THE EMAIL ADDRESS AND A LINK FOR THE PUBLIC MEETING SHALL BE PROVIDED TO YOU.

OH, YES.

SO WE HAVE SANTA CLAUS STATIC PARADE COMING UP, AND THIS IS A STATIC PARADE ONCE AGAIN THIS YEAR DUE TO COVID 19.

IT'S THIS FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 20, 6:00 IN THE EVENING, AND THE MAPS, I BELIEVE, WILL BE IN

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AM I CORRECT, MR. GAGNON? IT'LL BE ON OUR WEBSITE.

YES, ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE STILL REFINING A FEW DETAILS, BUT WE'LL GET THAT MESSAGE OUT TOMORROW AND TRY TO GET THE PUBLIC TO GET INTO THE VERY [INAUDIBLE].

PERFECT. OK.

NEXT PIECE, THE FIREFIGHTERS FOOD DRIVE FOR THE ELLIOT LAKE EMERGENCY FOOD BANK WILL BE SATURDAY, DECEMBER 4TH, BEGINNING IN THE MORNING AT THE CIVIC CENTER PARKING LOT, AND AGAIN THEY'LL BE ACCEPTING CASH ONLY DUE TO COVID 19.

ONCE AGAIN, I THANK EVERYONE FOR PARTICIPATING THIS YEAR AND THANK YOU A PRIOR THANK YOU FOR DONATING.

WE ALSO HAVE THAT FOLLOWED BY MOOSE RADIOTHON WILL BE ON DECEMBER 10TH.

THIS IS FOR THE SALVATION ARMY'S TOY DRIVE, AND THEY MAKE SURE NO CHILD GETS LEFT BEHIND AND EVERY CHILD IN OUR COMMUNITY WILL HAVE GIFTS UNDER THE TREE.

I HAVE ANOTHER NOTE HERE.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DON'T NORMALLY DO.

I RECEIVED A SPECIAL REQUEST FROM A MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY CHRISTINE [INAUDIBLE] REQUESTED THAT I RECOGNIZE HER FATHER, JOHN [INAUDIBLE], WHO IS TURNING 80 ON DECEMBER 11. BORN 1941 PROUD RESIDENT OF ELLIOT LAKE SINCE MID 1950 AND WORKED IN THE MINE AS WHEN MANY MEDALS COMPETING NATIONALLY.

A RECIPIENT OF THE ORDER OF ONTARIO, SHE SAID IT WOULD MAKE A HUGE DEAL IF HE HEARD HIS NAME ON TV.

SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JOHN [INAUDIBLE].

HAPPY 80TH. AND HERE'S TO 80 MORE.

BEFORE I GET INTO THE BIG TICKET ITEMS, I'D ASK MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY OTHER PIECES OF INFORMATION FOR TONIGHT'S [INAUDIBLE] COUNCILLOR FINAMORE THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SPEECH AND WORDS AT THE REMEMBRANCE DAY CEREMONY.

IT WAS VERY HEARTFELT AND I THINK THAT IT'S AS WE ARE TRANSITIONING FROM THE LAST OF OUR WORLD WAR TWO VETS THAT ARE LEFT IN THE COUNTRY.

MY FATHER WOULD HAVE BEEN 100 THIS YEAR AND HE WAS A WORLD WAR TWO VET.

AND AS WE'RE TRANSITIONING, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THE GREAT WARS, BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVE TO CONTINUE TO REMEMBER THOSE THAT FOUGHT IN OTHER WARS SINCE THEN.

AND YOU CERTAINLY BROUGHT THAT HOME AND BROUGHT HOME THE EFFECTS OF WHAT AFTER WAR IS.

I REALIZED TODAY EVEN MORE.

EVERY TIME I LISTEN TO A VETERAN LIKE YOURSELF, SPEAK THAT I KNOW MY DAD PROBABLY HAD PTSD THAT WAS NEVER ACKNOWLEDGED AND WE JUST THOUGHT HE WAS A MEAN MAN AND WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, NOW I CAN SIT DOWN AND ACTUALLY LOOK AND SEE WHY AND HOW HE PROBABLY WAS THE WAY HE WAS AND THE CHANGES AFTER THE WAR.

BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HEARTFELT SPEECH AT REMEMBRANCE DAY CEREMONY.

I HEARD YOU, AND I THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP JUST WANTED TO ADVISE THE COMMUNITY THAT WE DID BEGIN THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR 2022 THIS AFTERNOON, WE DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF STAFFING RELATED MATTERS AND OUR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING IS NEXT MONDAY AT 1:00 P.M.

AND WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE EXCITING TOPIC OF WATER AND THE WASTEWATER BUDGET.

IT SHOULD BE TELEVISED? WILL IT BE TELEVISED OPEN SESSION? IT WILL BE DEFINITELY STREAMED, AND I DON'T IMAGINE EASTLINK HAS MUCH MORE ON IT AT 1 P.M. ON A MONDAY, SO I DON'T SEE WHY THEY COULDN'T TELEVISE IT.

SO DEFINITELY WILL ABSOLUTELY BE STREAMED FOR SURE, AND WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO GET.

THANK YOU, RIVETING TELEVISION.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP ON YOUR BIRTHDAY MESSAGE NOTE.

MY WIFE AND I HAD THE HONOR OF HAVING A VISIT FROM A LADY WHO WAS IN OUR STORE SPENDING MONEY THAT SHE GOT FOR HER CENTENNIAL BIRTHDAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO AND HOPEFULLY COUNCIL WILL FOLLOW SUIT AND WISH EVELYN REID A HAPPY BIRTHDAY AT BECOMING OUR 100 YEAR OLD WHO IS A CITIZEN OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK THAT'S PRETTY AWESOME THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT HAS MADE IT TO THAT MILESTONE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY! THAT'S ABSOLUTELY AMAZING THAT SHE WAS OUT AT THE STORE, TOO.

YEAH. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

YES. I JUST I JUST WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION OF THE CHAIR OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, ARE PEOPLE GOING TO BE ALLOWED VIA ZOOM TO PARTICIPATE AS WE'VE ALWAYS HAD DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS? THE PUBLIC COME FORWARD, SUCH AS THE COLLEGE LOTS ASSOCIATION AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE COME FORWARD WITH PRESENTATIONS.

IS THAT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN DO THROUGH ZOOM THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS? I THINK WE CAN. OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN WORK TOWARDS SOMETHING.

ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THE NEXT MEETING PROBABLY ISN'T NECESSARILY THE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THAT TYPE OF PUBLIC DELEGATION.

HOWEVER, I THINK WE CAN SET SOMETHING UP.

EMAIL REQUESTS OR SUBMISSIONS ARE ALWAYS ACCEPTED BECAUSE WE DO HAVE AT EVERY MEETING THE THE PUBLIC OR THE PUBLIC.

A NOTICE FROM THE PUBLIC IS AVAILABLE TO SPEAK AT ANY MEETING OR WE CAN HAVE IT READ INTO THE RECORD, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK TOWARDS HAVING SOMETHING.

PRIOR TO THE END OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

YES. OK, ANY OTHER POINTS FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR COUNCILS REPORT.

OK, JUST FOR YOU, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE MY SHRINK HAD TO GET HIS OWN SHRINK. JUST SAYING.

ALL RIGHT. UNDER THE BIG TICKET ITEMS. UH, THESE ARE GOING FOR.

THIS OCTOBER, 28TH BILLS WERE EDWARD JONES INVESTMENTS, $4 MILLION, THAT'S NOT A BILL THAT'S A TRANSFER TO THE INVESTMENTS THAT COUNCIL APPROVED.

MAKE SOME MONEY ON THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS RECEIVER GENERAL SIXTY SEVEN THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED [INAUDIBLE] BURTLESS WATER ACCESS BYLAWS MCCALLUM LEASE PEARSON PLAZA TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED FOUR SHORE FORD PUBLIC WORKS PURCHASE PLUS AND PARTS FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED OMERS FORTY FIVE THOUSAND PETRO VALUE PRODUCTS AIRPORT JET FUEL THIRTY SEVEN THOUSAND TWO FIFTY MOVE TO NOVEMBER NOVEMBER 10TH BILLING.

WE HAD MINISTER OF FINANCE, MUNICIPAL POLICE AND CONTRACT.

TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR THOUSAND [INAUDIBLE] REGIONAL FOR CANADA.

SIXTY TWO THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED JJ BUS LINES TRANSIT SERVICE TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED I'LL GO TO DISTRICT SERVICE ADMINISTRATION BOARD NOVEMBER MUNICIPAL LEVY ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SIX THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED BEAMISH CONSTRUCTION FOR LANDFILL PUBLIC WORKS THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED EAST CRAB SOFTWARE ONLINE BUNDLE THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND GFL ENVIRONMENTAL SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER CURBSIDE PICKUP AND FRONT LOAD SEVENTY EIGHT THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED HYDRO ONE NETWORKS OCTOBER HYDRO VARIOUS LOCATIONS FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED EIGHT WINDSOR SALT BULK SAFETY SALT TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED MCDOUGALL ENERGY REGULAR GAS DIESEL CLEAR WIRELESS TOWER PROPANE TWENTY THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED [INAUDIBLE] FORTY FOUR THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS, PROFESSIONAL SERVICE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, HILLSIDE AND CEMETERY

[15. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF BY-LAWS]

[16. PUBLIC QUESTION PERIOD]

ANY QUESTIONS, QUALM'S QUERIES? SHOW A HAND ALL IN FAVOR.

ANY OPPOSED. THAT'S CARRIED.

PUBLIC QUESTION PERIOD.

INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, I DID RECEIVE ONE PUBLIC QUESTION, AND THAT WAS LAST WEEK IT WAS FROM MR. DON NICHOLS REQUESTING THAT POTENTIALLY COULD THE CITY LOOK INTO DOING A REVIEW OF THE

[17. CLOSED SESSION (if applicable)]

COUNCILLOR PEARCE BUT INTERESTING TIMING YOUR ANSWER, MR. NICHOLS. APPARENTLY, YES, WE CAN.

AND WE'RE ON TO CLOSED SESSION.

[02:15:01]

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, AGAIN, ANY QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES. CALL FOR THE VOTE, THEN ALL IN FAVOR.

IT'S CURRENTLY CLOSED SESSION, AGAIN, THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR WATCHING, AND I'LL SEE YOU ALL IN A FEW MINUTES BECAUSE [INAUDIBLE].

[18. CONFIRMATORY BY-LAW]

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE ALL IN FAVOR, SHOW OF HANDS, THAT'S CARRIED, WE'RE NOW OUR OF CLOSED SESSION.

QUICK LITTLE CHAT THERE, DIRECTION THE STAFF WAS GIVEN AND WE WILL CARRY ON WITH OUR NUMBER EIGHTEEN CONFIRMATORY BY LAW.

EIGHTEEN POINT ONE BYLAW NUMBER TWENTY ONE POINT NINETY FOUR SEEING BYLAW TO CONFIRM THE PROCEEDINGS OF COUNCIL AT ITS MEETING HELD ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 22ND 2021.

[INAUDIBLE] COUNCILLOR TURNER, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR CYR, ANY QUESTIONS, QUALMS QUERIES? THE ROLL CALL FOR THIS FINAL PIECE, COUNCILLOR MANN IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR PATRIE CLOSED COUNCILLOR FINAMORE IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR PEARCE IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR TURNER FAVOR COUNCILLOR CYR FAVOR.

I'M IN FAVOR THAT IS CARRIED AND A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR MANN AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL.

IT'S BEEN A LOVELY NIGHT.

YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.