[00:00:04] THANK YOU. CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER THIS IS A REGULAR SCHEDULE MEETING OF COUNCIL FOR THE CITY OF [1. CALL TO ORDER] ELLIOT LAKE. MONDAY, FEBRUARY 14, 2022 SEVEN P.M.. FULLY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE ARE ON THE TRADITIONAL LANDS OF THE ANISHINAABE PEOPLE AND PART OF THE ROBINSON-HURON TREATY. AS FAR AS ROLL CALL, ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COUNCILLOR CYR, WHO IS LOGGING IN RIGHT NOW, AND I WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS WAY BETTER THAN ENJOYING SOME CHAMPAGNE IN THE HOT TUB, RIGHT? ALL AGREE ON THAT. I'D ASK IF THERE'S ANY DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST THIS EVENING. ONCE, TWICE, THREE TIMES. GOOD. ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES 4.1 JANUARY 24, 2022 REGULAR, CAN I HAVE A MOVER TO ADOPT THE [4. ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES] MINUTES, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE. ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE. ARE WE GOOD WITH HANDS UP OR DO WE WANT ROLL CALLS THIS EVENING? ROLL CALL STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR TURNER. FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR MANN. IN FAVOR. AND WE'VE LOST COUNCILLOR CYR AGAIN. OK, I'M IN FAVOR, SO THOSE ARE CARRIED. NO PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING. [INAUDIBLE] POINT OF ORDER, YOUR WORSHIP, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO [16. PUBLIC QUESTION PERIOD] SUSPEND A PROCEDURAL BYLAW AND DEAL WITH QUESTION PERIOD PRIOR TO DEALING WITH 6.1. RATHER THAN US ANSWERING IT THROUGH DEBATE. OK WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO SUSPEND THE PROCEDURAL BYLAW TO MOVE PUBLIC QUESTION PERIOD FORWARD, IS THERE A SECONDER FOR THAT? SECOND BY COUNCILLOR MANN. AGAIN, OPEN FOR DEBATE, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE LEAVE IT WHERE IT IS SO COUNCIL CAN NATURALLY ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THROUGH OUR DEBATE AND CONVERSATION. THAT BEING SAID, IT'S THE WISH OF COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES. I'LL BRING THIS ONE TO A VOTE, THEN WELCOME COUNCILLOR CYR. WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE'D LIKE TO MOVE QUESTION PERIOD FORWARD BEFORE THE INTRODUCTION OF [INAUDIBLE] OF CORPORATE REPORTS, AND I'M GOING TO CALL FOR ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT IMMEDIATELY, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE. OPPOSED. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR TURNER. [INAUDIBLE] COUNCILLOR PATRIE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR CYR. FAVOR. COUNCILLOR MANN. IN FAVOR. I'M OPPOSED, BUT THAT'S CARRIED. OK. PUBLIC QUESTION PERIOD, AGAIN, MOST OF THESE WOULD HAVE BEEN ANSWERED THROUGH OUR DEBATE. WE'LL GET INTO IT, SUBMITTED BY [INAUDIBLE] ROBINSON HAVING TO DO WITH 6.1 AGAIN, THIS IS OUT OF OUR NATURE AND OUT OF A PROCEDURE. USUALLY PROCEDURE BYLAW ALLOWS FOR ONE QUESTION PER PERSON ON A ITEM GO [INAUDIBLE] THIS EVENING. I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE FOLLOWING QUESTION BE POSED REGARDING THE SALE STONEBRIDGE GOLF COURSE. WHY IS MUNICIPAL PROPERTY BEING SOLD WITHOUT AN APPRAISAL BEING DONE? HOW CAN IT BE DEEMED CUMBERSOME AS PER THE AGENDA AND THEN DISMISSED WHEN IT IS PROPER POLICY? AS WOULD HAVE BEEN STATED AREAS LIKE THIS THERE IS VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND A COMPARATOR THAT IS LOCAL, AND WE'VE HAD THAT ISSUE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER ASSETS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE BEEN SOLD IN THE PAST. WE CAN'T FIND A COMPETITOR. YOU CAN'T GET ACCURATE NUMBERS OTHER THAN VACANT PROPERTIES AND THE STRUCTURE ON IT. WHY IS THE PRICE BEING SET SO ABSURDLY LOW? WELL BELOW THE AMOUNT THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AND RETIREMENT LIVING HAVE PUT INTO IT. AGAIN, THIS WAS AN OFFER THAT WAS PUT FORWARD TO COUNCIL AND NEGOTIATED BACK AND FORTH, LOOKING AT THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE MUNICIPALITY. THE CITY'S DESIRE TO SELL STONE RIDGE GOLF COURSE, WHY IS IT NOT PLACED ON THE OPEN MARKET? AGAIN THIS CAME OUT OF THE UNSOLICITED OFFER, AND COUNCIL HAD NO ORIGINAL INTENTION OF PUTTING IT UP FOR SALE. IS THERE ANY PROVISION IN THE SALE THAT GUARANTEES THAT COURSE WILL NOT CLOSE? YES, THERE WAS. [00:05:02] WHY IS THE SALE OF THIS MAGNITUDE TAKING PLACE WITHOUT A FULL OPEN COUNCIL? AS PER OUR PROCESS, COUNCIL DISCUSSES SALES OF LANDS, PROPERTIES IN CLOSED SESSION SO AS WE CAN NEGOTIATE IN A WAY THAT'S NOT BEING HINDERED BY THE OUTSIDE AND THEN WE BRING IT TO OPEN SESSION, AS WE HAVE DONE THIS EVENING FOR CONVERSATION. WHY IS THIS BEING DONE AND WHAT APPEARS TO BE SUCH AN EXPEDIATED FASHION, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PROVINCE IS MOVING TOWARDS EASIER RESTRICTIONS, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR AN OPEN COUNCIL ? COUNCIL HAS DISCUSSED THIS IN CLOSED SESSION OVER THE LAST SIX WEEKS AND NEGOTIATED BACK AND FORTH. AND THIS IS THE TIME FOR IT TO COME TO OPEN. YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING OPENING UP IS GOOD. WE NEED TO LOOK AT IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THAT IT'S DONE BEFORE THE 1ST OF APRIL. OTHERWISE, THE MANAGEMENT OF THE GOLF COURSE WOULD BE NULL AND VOID FOR THE YEAR. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT TO SEE A GOLF COURSE NOT OPEN FOR THE YEAR, SO WE HAVE A TIME FRAME TO MOVE IT. HOW CAN THE CITY POTENTIALLY LOSE ANOTHER RECREATION FACILITY IN THE COMMUNITY AND EXPECT PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO LIVE HERE? WE NO LONGER HAVE CURLING, THE POOL IS IN POOR CONDITION, HOCKEY RING NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, REPAIRED AND WE'RE CURRENTLY WITHOUT A CIVIC CENTER. AGAIN IF THE GOLF COURSE IS TO SELL TONIGHT, IT WOULD NOT CLOSE. IT WOULD STILL BE THERE JUST IN THE HANDS OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR, RATHER THAN MUNICIPAL TAXATION THAT PAYS FOR THE OPERATIONS. WHAT IS THE PLAN TO IMPROVE COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE MEANS? THIS IS KIND OF GOING OFF TOPIC. IF THE CITY DOES HAVE A LONG TERM INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN AND HAS BEEN FOLLOWING THAT PLAN FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS NOW, REPLACING CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE UNDERGROUND ALONG WITH ROADWAYS AND MASSIVE REPAIRS TO OUR CURRENT RECREATIONAL FACILITIES OF THE [INAUDIBLE] AND TRYING TO OBTAIN FUNDING FROM THE PROVINCE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO BUILD A NEW RECREATIONAL FACILITY. HAVE LOCAL FIRST NATIONS ROBINSON-HURON TREATY MEMBERS HAVE BEEN CONSULTED ON ALL OF THIS PROPERTY AND LAND? NO, THAT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE MET. IT IS MUNICIPALLY OWNED. NEXT QUESTION IS SUBMITTED BY MATT AGAIN LOOK FOR LAST NAMES HERE. QUESTION FOR 6.1, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DELAY THE DECISION TO GIVE MEMBERS OF LOCAL COMMUNITY TIME TO LOOK INTO SUBMITTING A BID THEMSELVES? THAT IS POSSIBLE IF COUNCIL PUTS A DEFERRAL ON THE TABLE AND LOOKS AT THE POTENTIAL DECLARING THE SURPLUS. AND THAT IS A LONGER PROCESS WHERE MANY BIDS COULD COME FROM THE LOCAL ENVIRONMENT, AS WELL AS THE OUTSIDE ENVIRONMENT. THREE SUBMITTED BY ANDREW [INAUDIBLE] AGAIN FOR 6.1, THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE URGENCY TO ALL OF A SUDDEN DECIDE TO SELL AND ONLY CONSIDER ONE OFFER? [INAUDIBLE] BUSINESS PEOPLE HAVE A SHOT AT CONSIDERING THIS PROPERTY. DELAYING PROCEEDINGS WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT. SAME AS THE QUESTION I JUST ANSWERED. AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT A TIME CRUNCH. COUNCIL HAD NO INTENTION OF SELLING THIS. WE HAD AN UNSOLICITED OFFER WHICH GOT COUNCIL INTO THE DISCUSSION TO BEGIN WITH AGAIN IF THIS IS DEFERRED AND COUNCIL WISHES TO DECLARE THE PROPERTY SURPLUS, THEN GO THROUGH AN RFP PROCESS, WHICH WOULD WORK ALSO, AND THAT'S COMPLETELY UP TO COUNCIL. [INAUDIBLE] SUBMITTED BY DAVE BRUNET AGAIN FOR 6.1, WHAT IS THE SALE MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT AN APPRAISAL BEING DONE? I HAVE ANSWERED THAT ONE ALREADY. IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT AS WE ATTEMPTED THIS FIVE YEARS AGO TO GET A PROPER APPRAISAL BECAUSE THERE'S NO COMPETITORS FOR MUNICIPALITY TO LOOK AT FOR THE. THE PEOPLE WHO DO APPRAISALS. WHAT VALUE IS THERE IN THIS DECISION? AGAIN, THE ANSWER THROUGH DEBATE. MY PERSONAL OPINION DIFFERENT THAN OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. SO IF WE HAVE THAT DEBATE HERE IT'S A POINT OF VIEW ON THIS, THERE IS VALUE TO BOTH MUNICIPALLY RUN GOLF COURSES AND PRIVATE SECTOR GOLF COURSES, YOU CAN LOOK THEM UP ONLINE AND SEE THE DIFFERENCE. MOST PRIVATE SECTOR RUN GOLF COURSES HAVE A LOT MORE. THE FUNDING GOING INTO THEM FOR UPGRADES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. THEY LOOK AT ALL [INAUDIBLE] REVENUE, FOR MUNICIPALITIES WE DO WHAT WE CAN WITH THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN. WHY IS THE PRICE SET SO LOW, [INAUDIBLE] INVESTMENT FROM THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE PUT INTO IT? AGAIN, THIS WAS AN UNSOLICITED OFFER THAT CAME FORWARD NOT KNOWING REALLY WHAT IT'S WORTH. FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION IN OPEN. AND I WOULD SAY IT'S THE SAME AS DEPRECIATION ON YOUR CAR. YOU BUY YOUR CAR. $50000 10 YEARS LATER. [00:10:01] GUESS WHAT? IT'S NOT WORTH $50000. IT'S WORTH WHAT SOMEONE'S WILLING TO GIVE YOU FOR IT IF IT'S STILL IN RUNNING CONDITION. IF THE CITY WANTED TO SELL STONE RIDGE GOLF COURSE, WHY WAS IT NOT PLACED ON THE OPEN MARKET? AGAIN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL HAD NEVER ANTICIPATED THIS COMING FORWARD. THIS IS THE FIRST OPEN CONVERSATION WITH IT. IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DEFER AND DECLARE THE LAND SURPLUS. THEN WE COULD GO THROUGH A SIX MONTH PERIOD AND POSSIBLY SEE MAYBE SOMEBODY LOCALLY HAS THE INTEREST IN INVESTING IN THE GOLF COURSE AND MAKING IT A BETTER PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY. POINT OF ORDER YOUR WORSHIP. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS ARE REDUNDANT THERE, YOU'RE ASKING THE SAME QUESTION OVER AND OVER AGAIN. CAN WE AT LEAST? WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE QUESTIONS ARE. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO REPEAT THEM OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WE JUST GO ONTO THE ONES THAT ARE NEW AND UNIQUE. THANK YOU. I THINK THERE'S ONLY THREE MORE COUNCILLOR PEARCE. WHAT ARE THE INTENTION OF POTENTIAL BUYER? HIS INTENTIONS ARE TO RUN A GOLF COURSE, INVEST IN A GOLF COURSE, MAKE IT MORE BEAUTIFUL, POSSIBLY MAKE A BETTER CLUBHOUSE AND CONTINUE TO OPERATE IT IN OUR COMMUNITY. THERE'S NO INTENTION OF BULLDOZING IT AND PUTTING UP HOUSES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WHAT EXPERIENCE DOES HE, SHE HAVE IN OPERATING A GOLF COURSE? THE PURCHASER DOES NOT HAVE MUCH EXPERIENCE IN OPERATING A GOLF COURSE, BUT HAS THE RESOURCES TO HIRE PEOPLE THAT DO. IS THERE ANY PROVISION IN THE SALE THAT GUARANTEES THE COURSE WILL NOT CLOSE? YES, THERE ABSOLUTELY IS. COUNCIL DOES NOT WANT TO SEE THIS ASSET CLOSED. IT IS A AMAZING GOLF COURSE AND AN ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS UNDERSTOOD. WHY IS THE SALE OF THIS MAGNITUDE TAKING PLACE WITHOUT FULL OPEN COUNCIL? WE'RE HAVING AN OPEN COUNCIL MEETING TO DISCUSS IT RIGHT NOW. WHY IS IT BEING DONE IN WHAT APPEARS TO BE AN EXPEDIENT FASHION? AGAIN FOR THE SAKE OF THE GOLF SEASON COUNCIL ONLY HAVE SO MUCH TIME TO ALLOW FOR THE POTENTIAL PURCHASER TO BE ABLE TO KICK OFF WITH A PROPER SEASON FOR OUR GOLFERS. AND THAT IS THE END OF THE QUESTIONS. AND I WOULD LOOK TO MORE MOVE FORWARD INTO INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE [6. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS] REPORTS, 6.1 REPORT FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RE: PURCHASE OF STONE RIDGE GOLF COURSE. THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE MANAGERS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DATED FEBRUARY 2022 BE RECEIVED, THAT STONE RIDGE GOLF COURSE LAND AND ALL BUILDINGS AND ASSETS DECLARED A SURPLUS TO THE NEEDS OF THE MUNICIPALITY, AND THAT SECTION THREE OF THE MUNICIPAL LAND SALE POLICY BE MADE TO ADMIT THE NEED FOR MARKET APPRAISAL OF THE LAND AND ASSETS THAT ANY OTHER SECTIONS OF THE LAND SALE POLICY RELATED POLICY DOCUMENTS WITH RESPECT TO THE SALE OF LAND AND ASSETS, AND THAT THE SALE OF STONE RIDGE GOLF COURSE AND ALL OPERATING ASSETS 21860271 ONTARIO LIMITED BE APPROVED IN THE AMOUNT OF ONE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THAT BYLAW NUMBER 2020.209 BE ADOPTED TO EXECUTE THIS [INAUDIBLE]. DO I HAVE A MOVER? I'LL MOVE IT FOR DISCUSSION YOUR WORSHIP AND REQUEST TO SPEAK FIRST. OK. SURE. COUNCILLOR PATRIE MOVES FOR DISCUSSION. I'LL SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. AND SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE. LET MR. ANTUNES READ THROUGH THE REPORT AND. SALLY FORTH, MR. ANTUNES. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, GOOD EVENING AND GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. STAFF REPORTED TO COUNCIL IN CLOSED SESSION BACK ON JANUARY 10TH THAT THERE WAS AN UNSOLICITED OFFER TO PURCHASE STONE RIDGE GOLF COURSE IN THE AMOUNT OF 1.5 MILLION. THE PURCHASE INCLUDED THE PARCELS OF LAND IN WHICH THE COURSE SAT, AS WELL AS EQUIPMENT SUPPLIES, MARKETING RIGHTS AND COMMITMENT TO FULL TIME STAFF AND ONGOING PROCUREMENTS TIED TO THE GOLF COURSE OPERATIONS AS THEY WERE HEADING INTO THE SEASON. COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO CONTINUE TO PURSUE THE OFFER WITH THE PROPONENT AND RETURN WITH AN AGREEMENT PURCHASE AND SALE ACCORDINGLY. SOME QUICK BACKGROUND. THE COMPANY NAME WILL BE OPERATING OF COURSE UNDER STONE RIDGE GOLF.CA FOR MARKETING PURPOSES. THIS FIRM IS NO STRANGER TO ELLIOT LAKE. THEY'RE PART OF THE SAME OWNERSHIP GROUP THAT HAS OTHER INVESTMENTS IN MUNICIPALITY, INCLUDING THE BUILDING NEWFOUNDLAND WALK, WHICH IS UNDERGOING A MAJOR RENOVATION, EXCUSE ME, RENOVATION AND THE BUILDING AT 22 MARY WALK. SOME DETAILS ON THE PURCHASE GOING THROUGH OR THE AGREEMENT, PURCHASE AND SALE, THE LANDS AND EQUIPMENT ARE BEING COMPLETED, AS IS WHERE IS. AND IT'S A SIMPLE CASH TRANSACTION OF THE PRICE OF 1.5 MILLION. SO IT'S NO PAYMENT PROGRAM. IT'S A DIRECT CASH PURCHASE. [00:15:01] THE PURCHASER WOULD RETAIN ALL EXISTING FULL TIME STAFF AND OPERATIONS ARE SET TO CONTINUE IN TYPICAL FASHION STARTING THIS SPRING. WHILE THE NEW OWNERS MAKE INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUSINESS OVER TIME, WHICH THE OWNER HAS REITERATED IN A CONVERSATION WITH ME AGAIN TODAY THAT THE GOAL IS TO INCREASE THE AND MAKE INCREMENTAL AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FACILITY, BOTH LANDS AND STRUCTURES. THE OWNERSHIP GROUP HAS TAKEN A VERY STRONG MUNICIPALITY OR INTEREST IN OUR MUNICIPALITY. AS MENTIONED, THEY OWNED TWO COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS AND ESSENTIALLY PURCHASED STONE RIDGE WAS OF PERSONAL INTEREST. THEY HAVE A VERY STRONG TIE TO THE GOLF INDUSTRY AND THEIR PLANS WAS TO INCREASE THEIR HOLDINGS WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY. THE PLAN, AS I SAID, INCLUDE FUTURE UPGRADES TO STRUCTURES, PROGRAMS TO INCREASE TRAVEL AND TOURISM TO BRING MORE TOURISM INTO THE CITY AND THEREFORE BENEFITING OUR EXISTING HOSPITALITY AND RETAILER HERE IN TOWN. THE STRAND THE STRATEGY INCLUDES USING THEIR MARKET REACH AND THEIR AFFILIATIONS, THEY SAID WITH OTHER GOLF OPERATORS, TO LEVERAGE THE EXPERIENCE OF THEIR COLLEAGUES IN THE INDUSTRY TO INCREASE THE COURSE'S PROFITABILITY. THEY ARE NOT JUST COMING OUT OF LEFT FIELD WITH THIS, OTHER THAN THEIR PERSONAL INTEREST IN GOLF AND THE SPORT THEMSELVES. THEY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN STONE RIDGE'S SUCCESS. THEY HAVE A LARGE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE, OBVIOUSLY GOING IN, IN THE TUNE OF 1.5 MILLION. BUT MAKING THE GOLF COURSE THRIVE AND GROWING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY IN TURN, OF COURSE, MAKES THEIR RESIDENCES MORE VALUABLE AND IT SERVES THEIR FINANCIAL INTERESTS. THE MUNICIPAL LAND SALE POLICY TYPICALLY REQUIRES AN APPRAISAL. AS MENTIONED EARLIER, IN THIS CASE, THE APPRAISAL IS CUMBERSOME AND IMPRACTICAL. THE COURSE HAS A UNIQUE HISTORY, WITH HEAVY CAPITAL AND OPERATING INVESTMENTS FROM BOTH PUBLIC SECTOR PARTNERS IN ELLIOT LAKE RETIREMENT LIVING AND US HERE IN THE CITY. THE COURSE HAS CONSISTENTLY HAD A NET NEGATIVE IMPACT ON MUNICIPAL AND ELLIOT LAKE RETIREMENT LIVINGS COFFERS. FINDING COMPARABLE COURSES, AS YOUR WORSHIP SAID EARLIER ON IS DIFFICULT IN ORDER TO APPRAISE, AND THE PRICE OF 1.5 MILLION SEAMED WAS DEEMED REASONABLE BY COUNCIL AND LEGAL ADVICE WAS SOUGHT AND ALLAYED ANY LEGAL CONCERNS WITH PROCEEDING ON THE TERMS LAID OUT IN THE BYLAW/AGREEMENT, PURCHASE AND SALE. SO WE DID HAVE SOME EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION WITH OUR SOLICITORS. SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT YOUR WORSHIP TOUCHED ON, AS WELL AS SEEN IN SCHEDULE A LATER ON IN THE AGENDA THE BYLAW THAT STATES THE AGREEMENT, PURCHASE AND SALE THAT THERE IS A LONG TERM COVENANT OF FOUR YEARS A STATED IN THE AGREEMENT, PURCHASE AND SALE FOR GOLF OPERATIONS TO CONTINUE. THE PROPONENT IN DISCUSSIONS TODAY, HE HAS BEEN EXPOSED TO SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL AND HAS SEEN SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND HIS COMMENTS TO ME WERE THAT THERE'S NO CONCERN WITH IT NOT BEING A GOLF COURSE. HE SAID IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO BE EXTENDED FURTHER AS FAR AS A COMMITMENT TO HAVE IT CONTINUE ON AS A GOLF COURSE, HE CERTAINLY STATED THAT HE'D BE GLAD TO EXTEND THAT TERM TO A MUCH LONGER NUMBER IF THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES OF CONCERN. ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGREEMENT, PURCHASE AND SALE THAT WAS PUT THROUGH THE SOLICITORS, THE CITY DOES HAVE FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL ON THE SALE OF THE GOLF COURSE WITHIN THREE YEARS, IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN. AND AS MENTIONED, THE PROPONENT HAD WORKED WITH THE CONCEPT OF BRINGING MORE BUSINESS TO TOWN, MORE TOURISM AND UPGRADING THE CAPITAL OR CAPITAL ITEMS ON THE GOLF COURSE. SO AGAIN, GOING FORWARD, THE ONE MILLION, $1.5 MILLION PURCHASE PRICE COMING TO THE CITY, A MILLION OF THAT WOULD BE REPAID TO ELLIOT LAKE RETIREMENT LIVING TO SATISFY AN EXISTING CONTRACTUAL COMMITMENT TO THEM. AND THE OTHER IMMEDIATE $500000 NET PROCEEDS OF THE SALE WOULD COME TO THE CITY, AS WELL AS A APPROXIMATE $27000 A YEAR TAX REVENUE ON THE LANDS. AND AS FAR AS COST SAVINGS RIGHT NOW, THE CITY'S AVERAGE COST EXPENDITURE FOR THE GOLF COURSE RANGES ANYWHERE FROM THE HIGH NINETY THOUSAND TO A HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLAR A YEAR IN OUR COST TO OPERATE AS A MUNICIPALITY. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE AND HERE TO HELP HOWEVER I CAN. THANK YOU MR. ANTUNES, COUNCILLOR PATRIE WANTED TO START US OFF. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I'M GLAD THIS IS FINALLY COME TO THE PUBLIC VENUE. I'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR SIX WEEKS TO GET THIS, TO COME TO BE SPOKEN OF IN THE PUBLIC. [00:20:05] I KNEW IT WOULD BE A VERY CONTENTIOUS MATTER TO HAVE THIS OFFER COME LIVE. WE COULD HAVE BROUGHT IT LIVE WITHOUT TAKING THE NAMES OUT, BUT WE DIDN'T. IT IS NOW HERE. I'M TOTALLY OPPOSED TO THIS DEAL. WE HAVE $8 MILLION OF TAXPAYERS MONEY IN THIS COMMUNITY ASSET. THIS IS NOT JUST A PIECE OF LAND. THIS IS AN ACTUAL FACILITY AND AN ASSET THAT IS OWNED BY THE TAXPAYERS OF ELLIOT LAKE THAT HAVE PAID DIRELY FOR THIS FACILITY TO BE BUILT AND BROUGHT INTO PLAY AS A CHAMPIONSHIP GOLF COURSE. THE FACT THAT THERE'S A FOUR YEAR COVENANT DOESN'T COVER IT. I MADE THAT WELL KNOWN IN CLOSED SESSION THAT IF ANYBODY WERE TO CONSIDER THIS, I WOULD WANT A ACTUAL COVENANT IN THERE THAT IF IT IS NOT RUN AS A CHAMPIONSHIP GOLF COURSE, THE MUNICIPALITY FOR PERPETUITY CAN BUY IT BACK FOR 80 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS NOT BECOME A GOLF COURSE AND NOT BECOME A CHAMPIONSHIP OPEN PUBLIC GOLF COURSE. THIS ASSET IS NEEDED IN THIS MUNICIPALITY. IT'S A MAJOR ATTRACTION. IT'S A MAJOR DRAW TO KEEP THIS CITY THRIVING. SO I'M VERY CONCERNED. THERE'S ALSO THE ASPECT SO. IT'S BEEN KEPT HUSH HUSH ALL THE WAY THROUGH. IT COMES TO LIGHT THURSDAY EVENING. THERE IS ANOTHER OFFER ON THE TABLE, BUT COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED TODAY AND I CAN SPEAK TO THIS BECAUSE THE PROPONENT HAS TOLD ME THAT I CAN SPEAK TO THIS LIVE. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THE NUMBERS. IT IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE CURRENT OFFER. BUT THE FACT IS, IF WE WOULD HAVE BROUGHT THIS OUT IN THE OPEN EARLIER, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN OTHER POTENTIAL PURCHASERS. IF WE'RE GOING TO SELL A MUNICIPAL ASSET THAT WE'VE INVESTED $8 MILLION IN, I THINK WE SHOULD BE GETTING WAY MORE MONEY THAN THE FIRST OFFER. AND THAT WAS THE MAIN REASON I WANTED THIS IN THE PUBLIC. IF THE PUBLIC WERE TO KNOW AN AWFUL LOT OF BUSINESS PEOPLE IN TOWN, THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF EMAILS THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I ASKED FOR QUESTION PERIOD TO COME OUT AT THE BEGINNING. THERE'S AN ONSLAUGHT OF EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS THAT COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED THAT WE HAVEN'T BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE PUBLIC TONIGHT. THERE'S GOLF CANADA, THERE'S GOLF ONTARIO. THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SENT IN LETTERS AND INFORMATION THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT FOR THE DEADLINE OR DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE RIGHT FORUM. THERE'S A MULTIPLE PETITIONS THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE RIGHT FORUM THE COUNCIL IS WELL AWARE OF. THERE'S OVER A THOUSAND PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED FOR US NOT TO DO THIS DEAL. I THINK IT'S VERY PRUDENT FOR US TO NOT ACCEPT THIS OFFER. IF COUNCIL WANTS TO PUT THE FACILITY ON THE MARKET, I THINK WE SHOULD DO THE APPRAISAL. I DON'T CARE HOW CUMBERSOME IT IS, IT'S NOT TOO MUCH WORK. IT'S A MATTER OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS A MUNICIPAL ASSET. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO BE WILLING TO PUT IT ON THE MARKET, WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT THE VALUE IS AND IT SHOULD GO OUT TO OPEN TENDER. IF YOU'RE GOING TO SELL IT. YOU NEVER KNOW YOU COULD MAYBE GET SEVEN TO $8 MILLION. I DOUBT IT. I TOTALLY DOUBT IT. BUT YOU'LL PROBABLY GET A FAR CRY FROM 1.5 MILLION DOLLARS AND YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT $1.5 MILLION IS STRICTLY FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND IN THE COFFERS. A MILLION DOLLARS OF THAT IS OWED TO RETIREMENT LIVING. SO I'M JUST I AM TOTALLY OPPOSED TO THIS MOVING FORWARD TONIGHT. COUNCILLOR CYR. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU. I MUST ADMIT THAT CITIZENS THAT INITIALLY, AFTER COUNCILLOR RECEIVING WORD OF THE INTEREST AND THE PURCHASE IN OUR STONE RIDGE GOLF COURSE, IT WAS AN ENTICING PROPOSITION TO PURSUE THIS OPPORTUNITY OF POSSIBLY REDUCING OUR CITY'S FINANCIAL BURDEN THROUGH THE ANNUAL OPERATION OF THIS ASSET. THE MOST APPEALING PART OF IT TO ME PERSONALLY AT THE TIME WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF POTENTIAL GROWTH OF PERHAPS ADDITIONAL UPSCALE HOUSING UNITS ALONG THE GOLF COURSE FOR MANY RESIDENTS THIS WOULD BE AN APPEALING IDEA. I HAVE, HOWEVER, DEVELOPED SERIOUS CONCERNS FOLLOWING READING OUR CITIZENS FEARS REGARDING THIS PROCEEDING, AND NOW I'M QUESTIONING MY INITIAL SUPPORT FOR THIS. I REALIZE NOW THAT THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE MUNICIPAL ASSET WHICH IS OWNED BY THE PEOPLE OF ELLIOT LAKE. THE CITIZENS OF ELLIOT LAKE HAVE NEVER GIVEN COUNCIL OR CITY STAFF ANY MANDATE TO SELL SUCH MUNICIPAL ASSETS IN ANY WAY IN THE LAST SEVERAL ELECTIONS. I THINK IT WOULD BE WRONG FOR COUNCIL TO SELL OFF THIS PROPERTY WITHOUT OR ANY OTHER MAJOR MUNICIPAL RECREATIONAL PROPERTY LIKE THE SKI HILL WITHOUT FIRST HAVING DONE AT MINIMUM, A FULL PUBLIC CONSULTATION, FAIR MARKET EVALUATIONS PENDING PUBLIC APPROVAL, THEN TENDER [00:25:03] OUT THE PROCESS THROUGH OUR FEE AS WE'VE INSISTED ON ALL OTHER MUNICIPAL SALES IN THE PAST. IF WE DON'T FOLLOW OUR OWN POLICIES AND PROCESSES, THEN WE ARE NOT SERVING THE PUBLIC'S BEST INTERESTS, BUT OUR OWN. THIS IS NOT COUNCIL'S ASSET. THIS IS NOT THE CORPORATION'S ASSET, THIS IS THE PEOPLE'S ASSET FIRST AND FOREMOST AND PROPER PROCESS, I THINK IS IMPORTANT. SHOULD THE CITIZENS DETERMINE AND CONSENT TO THE SELLING OF THIS ASSET, THEN LET THEM VOICE IT IN NEXT YEAR'S MUNICIPAL ELECTION THROUGH A PLEBISCITE OR WHICHEVER PUBLIC FORUM WE CHOOSE. AND THEN AT LEAST WE'LL HAVE THAT MANDATE TO SELL IT OFF, AT LEAST THEN PROPER PROCESS WILL HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED AND OBSERVE AN APPROPRIATE COVENANTS BE PUT INTO PLACE TO PRESERVE OUR LONG TERM CITIES GOLF COURSE. MANY LOCAL GOLFERS ARE ALSO WORRIED ABOUT THE SUDDEN EVENT, CITING THEIR FEARS OF ANOTHER GLEN ABBEY DEVELOPMENT TYPE PROJECT WHERE THE GLEN ABBEY COURSE IS NOW BEING THREATENED TO BE CLOSED. OR ACTUALLY, I THINK IT IS CLOSED BECAUSE OF DEVELOPMENT TAKING PLACE ON IT. SO WHAT GUARANTEES CAN THIS COUNCIL ENSURE TO OUR CITIZENS WILL NEVER LOSE OUR GOLF COURSE? IT'S UP TO US TO DO THAT. I THINK COUNCIL SHOULD BE STEPPING BACK FROM CLOSING THIS DEAL IN ORDER TO FIRST FIND OUT OUR CITIZENS OPINIONS, CONCERNS OF THIS DEAL AND THEN DEMAND A FULL AND PROPER PLAN BOTH FOR OPERATIONAL INTENTIONS, THE GROWTH AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENTAL INTENTIONS OF THE SUCCESSFUL APPLICANT. MOST OF ALL, THESE SALES OF MUNICIPAL RECREATIONAL ASSETS SHOULD ONLY PROCEED IF THAT IS THE CLEAR WISH OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE OWNERS OF THESE ASSETS THROUGH THE CORPORATION. I KNOW THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE THE BEST INTENTIONS IN DECIDING THIS TONIGHT, BUT HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOU ARRIVED HOME AND YOUR CHILD JUST TOLD YOU THEY SOLD YOUR $60000 CADILLAC TO THE NEIGHBOR BECAUSE HE WAS OFFERED 20 GRAND AND WAS TIRED OF YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW EXPENSIVE IT WAS TO OPERATE EVERY DAY? EACH ONE OF US WOULD BE UPSET, AND I THINK THIS IS SIMILAR TO THAT WITH THESE MANY CONCERNS IN MIND. I SUGGEST COUNCIL TURN DOWN THE PROPOSAL AND DO THINGS RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE AND THROUGH THE INTENT OF THE PEOPLE. WE ARE THE PEOPLE'S REPRESENTATIVE AT THIS VIRTUAL TABLE AND THROUGH THIS TABLE, WE'RE MANDATED TO IMPLEMENT THEIR WILL AND THEIR BEST INTERESTS. LET US DO THIS RIGHT AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE THEIR SAY AND QUESTIONS AND WORRIES PROPERLY ANSWERED AND ADDRESSED. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, THEN LET US DO THIS RIGHT. AND BY THIS, I'M NOT BLAMING STAFF OR COUNCIL. I THINK WE WERE RUSHING INTO THIS. WE WERE ALL EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK WE NEED TO SLOW THIS DOWN AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE ARE SERVING THE PEOPLE HERE. COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, AND THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES, FOR YOUR REPORT THIS EVENING, I JUST WANT TO START BY THANKING ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS TO MYSELF AND OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET BACK TO EVERYONE. BUT I DID ABSOLUTELY HEAR YOUR CONCERNS AND COMMENTS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS. I'M NOT GOING TO GO ON AT LENGTH. OBVIOUSLY, THE FIRST TWO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE ESSENTIALLY COMMENTED IN A SIMILAR LIGHT TO MYSELF. FOR ME, THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE VALIDITY OF THE OF THE OFFER OR THE PROPONENT, BUT AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT BEING A COMMUNITY ASSET. WE HAVE TALKED THROUGH SERVICE DELIVERY REVIEWS OVER THE PAST BOTH THE POTENTIAL SALE FOR FACILITIES LIKE THE COLLINS HALL OR THE ARENA OR OTHER FACILITIES. AND TO ME, THERE ARE CERTAIN PROJECTS AND FACILITIES THAT SHOULD REMAIN AN ASSET AND THEY SHOULD BECAUSE OF THE CONTROL. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS A VERY KEY COMPONENT TO THIS MUNICIPALITY. AND ONCE YOU SELL AN ASSET, YOU LOSE THE CONTROL. IT MAY STILL OPERATE IN THE SAME VEIN THAT IT HAD BEEN BUILT UNDER DIFFERENT OWNERSHIP. BUT YOU LOSE THAT CONTROL PIECE. THERE ARE MANY SERVICES THAT THIS MUNICIPALITY DOES OPERATE AND THERE ARE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO TRANSIT OR TO OTHER SERVICES. THE ARENA, THE POOL, THEIR SERVICES FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND I BELIEVE THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THIS AS WELL TO STAY THAT. WE ALL RECEIVED A COPY OF A CORRESPONDENCE THIS AFTERNOON FROM ELLIOT LAKE RETIREMENT LIVING REGARDING THEIR CONTINUED INTEREST IN THE SERVICE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM TO PROVIDE THE MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS OF THE GOLF COURSE. I BELIEVE THAT SIMILAR TO THE RELATIONSHIPS WE HAVE WITH THE SKI HILL, THESE ARE THINGS [00:30:01] THAT SHOULD REMAIN IN THE PURVIEW OF THE MUNICIPALITY MOVING FORWARD IF IT IS THE WILL OF COUNCIL TO DEFER THIS FOR A FUTURE DISCUSSION. I WILL. I WILL FOLLOW THAT PATH. HOWEVER, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN DEFERRING THIS FOR ANOTHER DAY. I BELIEVE AT THIS POINT I'M NOT INTERESTED IN SELLING THE COURSE PERIOD. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO GIVE THAT SOME CONSIDERATION AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. NOT QUITE SURE WHAT TO SAY AFTER ALL OF THIS THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP AND MR. ANTUNES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'VE. BEEN PILLORIED QUITE EXTENSIVELY IN SOCIAL MEDIA OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS, AND THAT IS TOTALLY UNFAIR. YOU WERE DOING WHAT COUNCIL ASKED YOU TO DO. AND AS I RECALL, EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL SAID THEY WANTED YOU TO DO THIS. SO I THINK THAT THAT PART IS GOOD. I'M A BIT SURPRISED THAT SOME OF THE CHANGES IN ATTITUDE BY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. CAN ALSO UNDERSTAND, LIKE THEM, I'VE ALSO RECEIVED A GREAT DEAL OF COMMENTARY FROM BOTH FRIENDS AND ACQUAINTANCES, PEOPLE WHO OWN BUSINESSES, PEOPLE WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THE GOLF COURSE, PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN NEAR THE GOLF COURSE AND PEOPLE WHO KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT WHAT THIS DEAL IS ALL ABOUT. BUT WE HAVE BEEN HEARING A GREAT DEAL NEVERTHELESS. UNLIKE COUNCILLOR MANN, I THINK IN MY CASE, I WOULD ACTUALL PREFER TO SELL THIS ASSET, BUT I WOULD PREFER TO SELL IT IF AT ALL POSSIBLE TO SOMEBODY WHO IS LOCAL. AS WAS MENTIONED, THERE WAS AN OFFER TO CONTINUE FROM RETIREMENT LIVING, THAT'S GOOD, I GUESS. BUT THERE'S ALSO OTHER OFFERS FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND I WAS TOLD BY. A VERY REPUTABLE SOURCE TODAY THAT THERE'S AT LEAST TWO OTHERS, BOTH ON THEIR LOCAL AS WELL, WHO WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO PUT MONEY AND PURCHASE THE GOLF COURSE. MY RECOMMENDATION TO COMMITTEE TO COUNCIL WOULD BE THAT WE DECLARE THIS PROPERTY SURPLUS AND THAT WE ISSUE AN RFP TO THE COURSE AT A REASONABLE PRICE AND THAT THE CLOSING FOR THAT RFP WOULD BE NO LATER THAN APRIL 30TH, 2022. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND. THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. ANTUNES. FIRST OF ALL I'M ABSOLUTELY APPALLED AT THE WAY THAT YOUR NAME AND OTHER STAFF'S NAMES HAVE BEEN BANTERED AROUND THIS WEEKEND. YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB, THE JOB WE ASKED YOU TO DO. YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SOMEONE CAME FORWARD TO YOU AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICER AND ASKED YOU TO BRING SOMEONE FORWARD AND YOU JUST DID YOUR JOB. AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT. AS FAR AS THE GOLF COURSE, I'M QUITE SURPRISED AFTER BEING INVOLVED WITH COUNCIL FOR ALMOST 12 YEARS. THE BIGGEST DISCUSSIONS WE'VE EVER HAD ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE IS HOW WE SHOULDN'T OWN ONE AND HOW WE SHOULDN'T BE IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH ELLIOT LAKE RETIREMENT LIVING, SO I'M NOT SURPRISED THAT THERE WAS SO MUCH CONTACT MADE THIS WEEKEND AND SO MUCH OPPOSITION. I'M JUST SHOCKED THAT THERE WAS THAT MUCH OPPOSITION TO DIVERSING OURSELVES OF SOMETHING THAT MOST PEOPLE THOUGHT WE SHOULD'VE KNOWN IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO TO TRY TO WRAP MY HEAD ALL AROUND THAT AND THEN TO GRAPPLE WITH THE COMMUNITY, LIKE WHAT COUNCILLOR CYR SAID EARLIER. SOMEBODY APPROACHED US, ASKED US IF WE WOULD SELL THEM THE GOLF COURSE, AND WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT, WHICH WERE IN CLOSED SESSIONS, WHICH THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN. I DON'T THINK IT EVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT OUT TILL NOW THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOW. I THINK EVERYONE FOLLOWED THE CORRECT PROCESS AND I THINK AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD SELL THE GOLF COURSE. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CHANGE IT TO BE SURPLUS LAND, EITHER. I THINK THAT WE WEREN'T LOOKING AT SELLING A GOLF COURSE AND IF AND WHEN WE DO, THAT WILL BE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DISCUSSION. A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PROCESS. AND SOMEBODY SOMETHING THAT WE WILL CONSULT WITH ALL OUR PARTNERS ABOUT AT THE TIME THAT WE DO THAT. THIS WAS AN OFFER THAT WAS MADE BY SOMEONE WHO IS INVESTING IN ELLIOT LAKE. AND I'M KIND OF I GUESS IT WAS KIND OF SHOCKED AT THE AMOUNT OF BUSINESS PEOPLE AND PEOPLE IN GENERAL IN THE COMMUNITY THAT DON'T WANT TO GIVE THIS GENTLEMAN A CHANCE TO SEE [00:35:03] WHAT HE COULD DO WITH THE GOLF COURSE OR THIS ASSET. SO I FEEL BAD THAT I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'VE MISLED THE GENTLEMAN. I JUST THINK THAT THIS WAS THE NATURAL PROCESS THAT WE COME FORWARD TONIGHT AND WE DISCUSS THIS IN OPEN. SO FOR PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE TELLING ME AND PHONING ME AND EMAILING ME AND MESSAGING ME SAYING THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL AND THAT WE AREN'T FOLLOWING ANY PROCESS. THIS IS THE ACTUAL PROCESS AND THIS IS THE DISCUSSION OUT IN THE OPEN. AND I THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE THAT DID SEND ME YOUR INFORMATION BECAUSE IT DOES GIVE ME MORE THOUGHT THE COMMUNITY IS NOT READY FOR A CHANGE. OBVIOUSLY, I HOPE THE THOUSAND PEOPLE THAT SIGNED THE PETITION WILL SUPPORT THE GOLF COURSE THIS SUMMER SO THAT IT CAN BE A SUCCESS. I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT RETIREMENT LIVING IS WILLING TO TAKE IT ON FOR ANOTHER YEAR OR ANOTHER FEW YEARS, HOWEVER LONG TO RUN THE GOLF COURSE BECAUSE I IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE CASE, SO TO HEAR THAT THAT'S MADE A FIRM COMMITMENT, I THINK THAT'S GREAT NEWS FOR THE COMMUNITY. BUT I JUST THINK AT THIS POINT THAT WE SHOULDN'T SELL THE ASSET BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE. WE NEED TO DO A DIFFERENT JOB, OR I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO SAY A BETTER JOB OF EDUCATING THE PUBLIC AS TO WHAT THIS ASSET COSTS US A YEAR IN TAX DOLLARS TO RUN. AND IF THEY'RE WILLING TO SPEND THEIR TAX DOLLARS TO DO THIS, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO. AND I DON'T THINK THAT HAVING A GOLF COURSE IN A COMMUNITY THAT'S BELONG BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS A BAD THING. I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN COULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD INFLUX OF MONEY TO ENHANCE IT. I JUST THINK AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT'S NOT THE BEST TIME. I DO NOT WANT TO SEE AN RFP PUT OUT. IF WE DECIDE AT SOME POINT TO SELL IT, WE PUT A FOR SALE SIGN UP AND WHOEVER BUYS IT BUYS IT. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S THAT'S WHO IT IS. I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE SOMEONE FOR HERE TO OWN THIS FACILITY. WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS. IT'S THE MESSAGE FOR TRYING TO SEND TO PEOPLE, WE NEED. WE NEED RESIDENTIAL HOUSING. WE NEED SOME MORE INDUSTRY AND WE NEED PEOPLE TO COME AND INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS, THEN WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS. BUT IT SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF INTEREST FROM THE LOCAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO GET MORE INVOLVED. SO. I'D SAY AT THIS TIME THAT WE NOT SELL THE ASSET TO THE PROPONENT, AND WE SEE IN THE FUTURE WHAT CAN COME. OK. COUNCILLOR TURNER, YOU'RE UP NEXT AND THEN I HAVE MR. ANTUNES, MR. GAGNON, HAD SOME INFORMATION. THANK YOUR WORSHIP. FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE TO SAY THAT I'M PRETTY IMPRESSED BY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY BECAME INVOLVED IN EXPRESSING THEIR OPINIONS ON SELL, DON'T SELL WHATEVER. IT'S NICE TO SEE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO WONDER IF ANYBODY REALLY CARES WHAT GOES ON, BUT NOT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. SO IT'S GREAT TO SEE, NOW I HAVE TO SAY THAT I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOVERNMENT BY FACEBOOK. IF I DID, WE'D BE HOLDING PLEBISCITES AND REFERENDUMS EVERY TWO WEEKS INSTEAD OF COUNCIL MEETINGS. THIS APPARENTLY IS WHAT WE GET THAT LESS THAN MINIMUM WAGE STIPEND FOR EVERY MONTH. AND I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE IT SERIOUSLY AND MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE PERSONALLY CAN GATHER, SO. SPEAKING ABOUT THE DIFFICULTY I'VE HAD WITH THIS PROPOSED SALE IS. I STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER MYSELF. WHY DO WE WANT TO SELL IT? AND IF IT'S TO SAVE $120000 A YEAR. IT'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO TIP ME OVER THE EDGE HERE. WE SEE. WE SEE THAT KIND OF MONEY GOING ON A COUPLE OF VEHICLES. IT'S MINIMAL COMPARED TO THE CITY BUDGET. I WILL SAY THAT, ON THE OTHER HAND, THE GOLF COURSE HAS GOT, I BELIEVE, LESS THAN 200 MEMBERS. SO THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO STAND ON ITS HEAD FOR 200 PEOPLE. SAME WAY COMMUNITY CAN BE EXPECTED TO DO LIKEWISE WHEN WE HAD TO DEAL WITH THE CURLING CLUB AND TAKE IT IN A PROPOSED REC CENTER. [00:40:06] VERY DIFFICULT DECISIONS. WE WANT TO BE INCLUSIVE. I WANT TO SEE THIS COMMUNITY WITH THE REC CENTER. I'D LIKE TO GET ON WITH IT. YES, IT WILL PROBABLY RESULT IN A SMALL TAX INCREASE. LET'S GET ON IT [INAUDIBLE]. GOLF COURSE, I THINK, IS PART OF THAT PACKAGE. AND I THINK LIKE THE SKI HILL AND OUR ATV AND SNOWMOBILE TRAILS. WE HAVE TO KEEP SOME CONTROL ON IT. SO I'D LIKE AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING, UNTIL WE SEE AN ALTERNATE, AN ALTERNATE. I'D LIKE US TO DECLINE THE OFFER AND MOVE FORWARD AND SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY MORE ATTRACTIVE. AND IF SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, CITY DECIDES NEEDS MONEY OR IT'S BETTER OFF IN PRIVATE HANDS, WHICH IS USUALLY THE CASE, THEN WE MOVE FORWARD AND DO IT WITH ALL THE PREPARATION NECESSARY. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANKS, YOUR WORSHIP. THANK YOU. MR. ANTUNES. OH, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I PUT MY HAND UP A WAYS BACK, IT WAS JUST VERY QUICKLY TO ADDRESS THIS QUESTION OF SPEED THAT WAS BROUGHT UP. AND IT WAS A QUESTION OF TIMING AND GOLF COURSE OPERATIONS WITH CURRENT OPERATORS. THERE'S THE QUESTION OF IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT THING TO DO MID-SEASON. IT WAS AN IDEAL EITHER IT'S DONE AT THE BEGINNING OR AN END OF THE SEASON, JUST IT MAKES A HAND-OFF EASIER FOR STAFFING AND OPERATIONS AND COSTS. SO I JUST WAS TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT EARLIER. THANK YOU. MR. GAGNON. JUST A QUICK COUPLE OF POINTS ON PROCESS. I JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCILLOR FINAMORE FOR RAISING HER CONCERNS. I THINK THE UNFORTUNATE HEADLINE OF THE ELLIOT LAKE TODAY ARTICLE MADE IT SOUND LIKE STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING THAT WE SELL A COMMUNITY ASSET OUT OF THE BLUE, WHEREAS COMPLETELY NOT THE CASE. WE WERE FOLLOWING DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL IN CLOSED SESSION AND WE RECOMMEND IF ONE WANTS TO SELL A COMMUNITY ASSET, THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT. BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES OF TIMING THAT MR. ANTUNES MENTIONED, WE DON'T TYPICALLY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE STAFF OUT OF THE BLUE. WE WERE ACTING ON THE DIRECTION WE HAD PROPOSED AND FOLLOWING OUR STANDARD PROCESS, YOU GO CLOSED, YOU COME TO OPEN. THE DIRECTION WAS BRING AN AGREEMENT, PURCHASE AND SALE TO COUNCIL. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID. WE'RE IN AN OPEN COUNCIL MEETING. IF COUNCIL HAS A CHANGE OF HEART, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. OBVIOUSLY, YOU MAKE THE DECISION, NOT STAFF. BUT WE SHOULD ALSO CLARIFY IF WE DON'T GET A MOTION TO DECLARE SURPLUS THIS EVENING. ANY OTHER OFFERS, REAL OR OTHERWISE ARE GOING TO NOT BE ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE THE ASSET HAS NOT BEEN DECLARED SURPLUS. SO OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER CLOSED SESSION OR ANOTHER OPEN SESSION, BUT WE COULD PROBABLY USE SOME DIRECTION ON WHETHER THE GOLF COURSE IS FOR SALE OR NOT. SO WE CAN AT LEAST END THE DEBATE GOING FORWARD AND BE MORE RESPECTFUL OF STAFF TIME, SO WE KNOW WHAT TO DO WHEN THE PHONE RINGS FOR THESE TYPES OF UNSOLICITED OFFERS. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO INTERJECT AS I MISSED MY OPPORTUNITY BEGINNING TO SPEAK AND A LITTLE DISHEARTENED AND NOT BY COUNCIL'S CHANGE OF HEART, BUT JUST BY THE WAY IT'S COME ABOUT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER I SUPPORT COUNCIL. I'M VERY THANKFUL TO THE COMMUNITY FOR THE AMOUNT OF INTEREST THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THIS. I NEED TO BE BLUNT AND HONEST. IT WAS VERY, VERY CLEAR FROM FRIDAY FORWARD THAT THERE WAS A PLATFORM OF MISINFORMATION PUT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, MEANING 90 PERCENT OF THE EMAILS, MESSAGES AND PHONE CALLS THAT I HAVE RECEIVED IN THE LAST THREE DAYS HAVE BEEN BASED ON MISINFORMATION AND MISINFORMATION ESSENTIALLY WAS THAT THE GOLF COURSE WAS BEING SOLD TO BE TURNED INTO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. SO THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN, AND I'M SAYING 90 PERCENT OF THE CONCERN WAS THAT THIS WOULD NO LONGER BE A GOLF COURSE, WHICH WAS NOT THE CASE. NOT TOO HAPPY THAT SOCIAL MEDIA CAN DICTATE SO MUCH, BECAUSE, AGAIN, ONCE AGAIN, TOTAL MISINFORMATION, A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS OUT THERE, ALTHOUGH I APPRECIATE THOSE WHO CAME FORWARD WITH A VERY CLEAR, CONCISE QUESTIONS THAT ARE RELEVANT. MANY OF THEM WERE BASED ON THE THOUGHT THAT WE'RE LOSING THIS ASSET IN THE COMMUNITY AND [INAUDIBLE] COUNCIL DID NOT GIVE UP A GOLF COURSE. IT IS AN AMAZING GOLF COURSE. THE THOUGHT OF A PRIVATE INVESTOR LOOKING AT IT WOULD MEAN ONE THING THIS INVESTOR HAS FUNDS TO INVEST IN THE GOLF COURSE, MAKING IT MORE BEAUTIFUL, ADDING TO THE CLUBHOUSE AND [00:45:07] POTENTIALLY ADDING TO TOURISM BASE IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT A BAD THING. OUTSIDE INVESTMENTS A LOT, AND I FEEL REALLY BAD. I'M HOPING THAT WE HAVE NOT CREATED BAD FAITH WITH THE PROPONENT BECAUSE HE IS DOING WORK IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HE PROMISED HE WOULD AND HAS ADDITIONAL FUTURE PLANS WE'D LIKE TO WORK WITH HIM ON. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS FRUSTRATED ME ABOUT THIS PROCESS, AND WE HAVE FOLLOWED THE PROCESS CLOSED SESSION DISCUSSION NEGOTIATIONS. A LOT OF Q&A BACK AND FORTH TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WAS DISCLOSURE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION IMMEDIATELY AFTER OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING. THIS WAS ON THE STREET. I WAS APPROACHED BY A FEW DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS WHO KNEW A WHOLE LOT OF INSIDE INFORMATION THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN THAT INFORMATION. AND SOME OF THEM, I KNOW, BEGAN TO SPREAD MISINFORMATION IN ORDER TO KIND OF DESTROY THE PROCESS, WHICH IS VERY UNFORTUNATE. WE'VE DISCUSSED THE LOSS OF ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND A YEAR THAT THE CITY PUTS INTO THIS. WE PUT MONEY INTO OTHER RECREATION AND OTHER FACILITIES. WITH THE SALE, WE COULD SEE AN ADDITIONAL $30000 A YEAR IN TAXATION. SO INSTEAD OF A LOSS, IT'D BE A GAIN. AGAIN, NO INTEREST IN LOSING THE RECREATION FOR MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY AT ALL. NONE OF US HAVE HAD THAT THOUGHT. WE HAVE AN AMAZING COMMUNITY. COUNCIL IS ALL ABOUT THE WELL-BEING AND RECREATION FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO THINK OTHERWISE. PERSONALLY, THOUGH, MY PERSONAL OPINION, LOOKING AT A MORE BUSINESS ASPECT APPROACH I WOULD SELL, I WOULD SELL THE SKI HILL. THERE'S YMCAS ALL ACROSS CANADA THAT DO A GREAT JOB RUNNING AWESOME RECREATIONAL FACILITIES. THOSE ARE PRIVATELY OWNED, NOT MUNICIPAL. THERE'S MANY, MANY PRIVATE GOLF COURSES THAT HAVE MUCH TO OFFER. THERE'S PRIVATE SKI HILLS THAT HAVE ALL SEASONAL RESORTS THAT HAVE YEAR ROUND RECREATION OUT. THESE ARE AMAZING THINGS. JUST BECAUSE THE PRIVATE SECTOR OWNS IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S NO LONGER AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. IT JUST MEANS THAT A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL HAS INVESTED THEIR OWN FUNDS INTO THIS ASSET AND WILL CONTINUE TO INVEST TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY, HOPING THAT THE COMMUNITY WILL SUPPORT THEIR EFFORTS. THAT'S MY PERSONAL THING. MYSELF TONIGHT, I THINK WE'VE HAD LONG DISCUSSIONS, AND I WILL GO WITH COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON THIS. BUT PERSONALLY, I DO NOT WANT MY COUNCIL TO BE GUIDED BY OUTSIDE INFLUENCES. THIS WAS A VERY DIFFERENT CONVERSATION AT OUR LAST MEETING. AND I KNOW THAT I WAS ELECTED TO HAVE MY OWN VOICE TO LOOK AT MY OWN PERCEPTION OF THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY TO BUILD THAT FUTURE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THIS COUNCIL HAS SAT HERE AND SEEN SOMETHING THAT HASN'T HAPPENED IN THREE DECADES. THE GROWTH OF POPULATION IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE INCREASE IN VALUES OF HOMES. WE HAVE SEEN MORE MONEY INVESTED IN THIS COMMUNITY IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS THAN IN THE PREVIOUS 30 YEARS. THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF. THIS IS OUR FUTURE, THIS IS OUR VISION. YOU MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, REMEMBER THIS IS OUR VISION. WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON WHAT WE DEEM IS NECESSARY FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND NOT VOTE BECAUSE OF SOMEBODY WHO CALLED YOU AND TOLD YOU TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. VOTE FOR OUR FUTURE. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. COUNCILLOR PATRIE, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT BEFORE WE VOTE? I DO YOUR WORSHIP. VERY DISHEARTENED WITH YOUR COMMENTS. THIS WAS NOT UNANIMOUS IN CLOSED SESSION. I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR AN AWFUL LOT OF ITEMS IN HERE. I AS WELL WAS RECEIVING PHONE CALLS AND I HAD PEOPLE NAME PEOPLE THAT BREACH CONFIDENTIALITY AND I'M NOT GOING TO NAME THEM AND I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND MORE TAX DOLLARS AND GO TO THE IC AND HAVE THEM BROUGHT UP ON CHARGES. BUT YES, IT WAS LEAKED. IT'S VERY DISHEARTENING TO HEAR THAT ASPECT, BUT YOU MUST UNDERSTAND. YOU SAY THAT THERE WAS A BUNCH OF MISINFORMATION ON FACEBOOK. I DIDN'T READ FACEBOOK. I DID GET A MULTITUDE OF PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS. THERE WAS NO MISINFORMATION FROM THE PEOPLE THAT CONTACTED ME, AND I'M AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OF THIS MUNICIPALITY BY THE PEOPLE OF THIS MUNICIPALITY, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT [00:50:06] THEY HAVE A FULL RIGHT TO VOICE THEIR OPINION. CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO, BUT THEY CAN SURE VOICE THEIR OPINION. IT'S IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUY OUR GOLF COURSE, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND WE SHOULD HAVE IT IN THE OPEN AND LET THE PEOPLE TELL US, DO THEY THINK THAT WE SHOULD SELL THIS ASSET OR SHOULD WE NOT SELL THE ASSET? THE BULK OF THE INFORMATION THAT I GOT THIS WEEKEND IS WHAT ARE YOU DOING SELLING IT FOR SUCH A LOW PRICE? DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT WILLING TO SELL IT. I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE ASSET. I'M VERY CONCERNED. I THINK THAT WHEN THIS WAS DONE AND ALL THE MONEY WAS PUT INTO THIS ASSET YEARS AGO, IT WAS DONE FOR A GOOD REASON. I THINK IT WAS VERY WELL DONE AND WE NOW HAVE A CHAMPIONSHIP GOLF COURSE THAT PEOPLE COME AND TRAVEL TO TO PLAY ON. THAT'S MY FEAR. I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT ASSET. I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THE GOLF COURSE THAT WE HAD WHEN I WAS HALF MY AGE WASN'T A GOLF COURSE LIKE WE HAVE NOW. I WOULDN'T HAVE PLAYED IT. AND THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT. IT IS A VERY GOOD FUNCTIONING ASSET FOR THIS MUNICIPALITY AND IT NEEDS TO STAY THAT WAY. IT'S UP TO COUNCIL AS A WHOLE. IT'S NOT UP TO ME, YOU, IT'S UP TO FOUR PEOPLE AT THIS TABLE, AND THEN THE BALANCE IS TO FOLLOW WITH THE DIRECTION IS ON HOW IT GOES. IF THE PEOPLE CAN GET FOUR PEOPLE TO LISTEN TO THEM, THEN THE PEOPLE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING. WE ARE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE. THIS IS NOT OUR MUNICIPALITY AND IT'S NOT OUR ASSET. BUT I'M JUST GLAD THAT IT FINALLY GOT TO THE OPEN FORUM AND THAT THE PEOPLE DID STAND UP. IF WE WEREN'T HAVING A ZOOM MEETING, I'LL GUARANTEE YOU THAT THE GALLERY AT CITY HALL WOULDN'T HAVE HAD ROOM. WE WOULD HAVE HAD ANOTHER INSTANCE WHERE WE HAD PEOPLE OUTSIDE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN. THERE WAS THAT MUCH OF AN OUTCRY ABOUT THE WAY THAT THIS HAS COME FORWARD. SO I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE DIRECTION TONIGHT, I'M JUST TOTALLY OPPOSED TO WHAT IS ON THE TABLE. THERE IS ANOTHER OFFER IF STAFF COMES BACK AND PUTS ON THE TABLE A REPORT ASKING COUNCIL IF WE WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE INTERESTED IN SELLING THE GOLF COURSE, THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT STORY. BUT THE OFFER THAT'S SITTING AT THE TABLE AT 1.5 MILLION DOLLARS WITH NO COVENANT THAT IT STAYS AS A GOLF COURSE IN PERPETUITY. I'M ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO IT. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WAS THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WISHING TO SPEAK BEFORE WE END IT? COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, I JUST WANT TO JUST ADDRESS ONE ISSUE, AND THAT IS THAT I WANT THE PEOPLE OF ELLIOT LAKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE FOLLOWED THE PROCESS AND THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOW FOR ALL SALES THAT WE DO AND THAT WE DIDN'T HIDE ANYTHING. WE DIDN'T GO BEHIND ANYONE'S BACKS. WE WEREN'T SPRINGING IT ON ANYBODY THAT MR. ANTUNES DID HIS JOB AS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICER FOR THE MUNICIPALITY, AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE PEOPLE STOP FROM BRINGING FORWARD IDEAS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE SO THAT IT CAN GET TO COUNCIL. AND THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. AS AS A CITY COUNCILLOR THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT WORKS, AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT I FUNCTION. BUT IT IS MY JOB TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF ELLIOT LAKE, AS WELL AS LOOK FOR THE FUTURE OF ELLIOT LAKE. AND I JUST DON'T SEE GOING FORWARD WITH THIS AT THIS TIME THAT IT'S A POSITIVE CHANGE FOR THE COMMUNITY AT THIS TIME. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T DISCUSS WHETHER AT A LATER DATE, WHETHER WE WANT TO SELL THE PUT THE ASSET UP FOR SALE AND OPEN IT UP TO ANYBODY, THEN THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER DAY BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS DISCUSSION IS TONIGHT. THIS IS ABOUT THIS OFFER FOR SALE FROM THE PROPONENT THAT WE HAVE AT THE TABLE. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR CYR. THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU AND WELL, I'VE ALREADY STATED THAT I THINK HINDSIGHT, I THINK REALLY WITHOUT A CLEAR MANDATE FROM THE PEOPLE REGARDING SELLING OUR TOURISM ASSETS. I THINK THAT DIRECTION SHOULD FIRST COME FROM THE CITIZENS IF THEY TELL US, SURE, GET US THE BEST DEAL TO SELL, SELL ALL THE ASSETS, THEN I THINK WE CAN GO FORWARD. BUT I THINK THAT DECISIONS, I THINK, IS THE TAXPAYERS AND THE CITIZENS RIGHTS FIRST AND THEY'LL TELL US WHAT TO DO. THAT'S JUST THE WAY I LOOK AT IT NOW. AND I THINK, LIKE I SAID, I THINK MR. ANTUNES HAS BEEN DOING A FANTASTIC JOB FOR US. HE DOESN'T DESERVE ANY OF THE BLAME HERE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THAT. BUT I THINK IT'S WE'RE BEING TOLD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM OUR CITIZENS. LISTEN TO US. SO IT'S UP TO US TO LISTEN TO THEM BECAUSE SOME OF US, MAYBE MANY OF US WON'T BE HERE THE NEXT TERM. SO I THINK LET'S MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THE CITIZENS THAT HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD HERE. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. [00:55:08] THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS, I THINK. I WANT TO CORRECT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN STATED, COUNCILLOR CYR SAID THAT THEY WERE HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT THEM BEING DEVELOPMENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THE GOLF COURSE OR INSTEAD OF THE GOLF COURSE. YOU CAN'T BUILD HOUSES THERE. YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY MINING PROPERTIES, AND THE CANADIAN NUCLEAR SAFETY COMMISSION WOULDN'T ALLOW YOU TO BUILD ANY HOUSES ANYWHERE NEAR THERE. SO YOU CAN'T EVEN THINK OF THAT. THE IDEA THAT WE ARE THAT PEOPLE ARE DRIVING TO ELLIOT LAKE TO PLAY GOLF ON A REGULAR BASIS IS FALLACY. ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR WHEN WE HAVE CERTAIN TOURNAMENTS. EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME, I'M TALKING COUNCILLOR EXCUSE ME. [INAUDIBLE] I AM TALKING COUNCILLOR. THAT'S ENOUGH. THE PEOPLE DON'T COME HERE TO PLAY GOLF. TWICE A YEAR, THEY COME FOR VERY SPECIFIC TOURNAMENTS, AND THOSE ARE TOURNAMENTS WHERE PEOPLE COME HOME TO PLAY GOLF. I LOOK AROUND THIS COUNCIL TABLE AND OTHER THAN COUNCILLOR MANN, I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS COUNCIL THAT GOLFS REGULARLY. OTHER THAN MYSELF. I DON'T I'M NOT OPPOSED TO SELLING THIS THING, I THINK COUNCILLOR FINAMORE'S IDEA IS PROBABLY A BETTER ONE IF WE JUST PUT A FOR SALE SIGN ON IT AND SEE WHAT KIND OF OFFERS WE GET, THEN WE CAN SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO SELL IT AT A PRICE THAT WE THINK WE CAN AFFORD. BUT I THINK WE'RE MAKING A MISTAKE BY NOT MAKING A DECLARING THE PROPERTY SURPLUS AND ALLOWING PEOPLE TO MAKE AN OFFER ON THE ON THE PROPERTY. I FIND IT VERY, VERY SURPRISING THAT COUNCILLORS, WHO ARE ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF PRIVATE ENTERPRISE TAKING OVER ARE NOW AGAINST IT. BUT. I GUESS THEY DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. COUNCILLOR PATRIE REBUTTAL. ABSOLUTELY, YOUR WORSHIP, I DON'T APPRECIATE BEING TOLD THAT I'M A LIAR. I KNOW PEOPLE THAT COME TO THIS MUNICIPALITY JUST TO GOLF, AND FOR A MATTER OF FACT, I'VE HAD PEOPLE COME AND STAY AT MY RESIDENCE JUST TO GO AND GOLF DON'T TELL ME I'M LYING, MR. PEARCE. OK, ENOUGH, GENTLEMEN. VERY, VERY CAREFUL, COUNCILLOR, BE VERY CAREFUL. OK, ENOUGH GENTLEMEN. KEEP THIS PEACEFUL. IT'S BEEN A GOOD DEBATE SO FAR AND AGAIN, EVERYBODY I THINK IS LOOKING OUT FOR THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE MUNICIPALITY. MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE SPOKEN AGAIN MYSELF PREFERABLY I WOULD I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT JUST DECLARED SURPLUS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS FROM THERE. THAT'S HOW WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET LOCAL OFFERS AND POSSIBLY SOMETHING FANTASTIC. AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNITY FOR GIVING US YOUR INPUT. I'D ASK THAT IN THE FUTURE, ELLIOT LAKE TODAY GET THE APPROPRIATE INFORMATION BEFORE PUTTING OUT AN ARTICLE IS NOT TO CONFUSE PEOPLE. IS THAT I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH MY PHONE RINGING OFF THE HOOK, ANSWERING QUESTIONS THAT ARE VALID. BUT IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING WHEN THEY'VE GOT MISINFORMATION FROM SOCIAL MEDIA ONCE AGAIN. AS COUNCILLOR PEARCE STATED, YOU CANNOT DO A HOUSING PROJECT ON THIS PROPERTY FOR ZONING AND CNSC ISSUES, BUT A VERY GOOD DEBATE. AND I'M HOPING THAT PEOPLE OUT THERE STILL UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS AS A COMMUNITY AND WILLING TO LOOK AT ALL TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENT, AND WE'LL HAVE A CLEAN, OPEN DEBATE ON THAT. AS COUNCILLOR FINAMORE HAS STATED REPEATEDLY, WE HAVE FOLLOWED THE PROPER PROCESS. THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES AND MR. GAGNON FOR FOLLOWING THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL AND BRINGING FORWARD THIS REPORT. AND WITH THAT, I WOULD CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE SO WE CAN CARRY ON THIS EVENING. I'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR MANN. OPPOSED. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. OPPOSED. COUNCILLOR TURNER. OPPOSED. COUNCILLOR CYR. OPPOSED. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. OPPOSED. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. MY APOLOGIES IN FAVOR. AND I'M IN FAVOR, BUT THAT IS WHAT'S THE OPPOSITE WORD OF APPROVED. DEFEATED. DEFEATED. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHAT JUST HAPPENED THERE. DEFEATED. YOU NEED MY PIECE OF PAPER. THAT WAS DEFEATED AND GOOD DEBATE, GOOD DISCUSSION, THANK YOU, EVERYONE. 6.2 REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND TREASURY RE: INTERIM TAX LEVY BY LAW FOR 2022. ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR FOR FINANCE AND TREASURY PASS THE BYLAW FOR 2022 BE RECEIVED AND THAT THE BYLAW TO PROVIDE FOR THE INTERIM TAX LEVY AND TO PROVIDE FOR THE PAYMENT OF TAXES AND TO PROVIDE FOR PENALTY AND INTEREST ON [01:00:06] ARREARS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MUNICIPAL ACT TWENTY OR 2021 BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL. CAN I HAVE A MOVER PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE THANK YOU, MS. SONNENBURG. GOOD EVENING, YOUR WORSHIP TO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THIS IS A HOUSEKEEPING ISSUE. DONE EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND PER THE MUNICIPAL ACT, WE LEVY OUR FIRST BILLING CYCLE FOR 50 PERCENT OF THE TAXES THAT WERE LEVIED FOR THE FULL YEAR OF 2021. KEEPING IN LINE WITH CURRENT PRACTICES, THE BILLING INSTALLMENT DATES ARE THE FIRST THURSDAY OF APRIL, JUNE, SEPTEMBER AND NOVEMBER. AND SINCE THE BUDGET PROCESS HAS YET TO BE COMPLETED, TAXATION POLICY DECISIONS AND MUNICIPAL TAX RATES ARE NOT COMPLETE. SO WE WILL CONTINUE LEVY AS WE HAD FOR THE LAST LEVY OF 2021 AND THOSE THAT WILL BE ADJUSTED AT FINAL BILLING AS PER EVERY OTHER YEAR FOR THE CITY, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THE BYLAW WILL FOLLOW LATER ON THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, MS. SONNENBURG. AS YOU SAID, A YEARLY HOUSEKEEPING ITEM UNTIL BUDGET'S PASSED, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? OK SEEING NONE, I'LL FOR A ROLL CALL, I'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE THIS TIME. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR CYR. FAVOR. COUNCILLOR TURNER. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR MANN. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. IN FAVOR. AND I'M IN FAVOR ALSO THAT IS CARRIED. THANK YOU, MS. SONNENBURG. 6.3 MEMO FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. RE: 13B TIMBER ROAD AND SURROUNDING LANDS UPDATE. AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH POTENTIAL DISPOSITION OF PROPERTY OWNED BY MUNICIPALITY, IT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION AS PER SECTION 2392C OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT. CAN U HAVE A MOVER TO PUT THAT IN CLOSED? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. SECONDER, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, THANK YOU. QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES. SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL VOTE. QUESTION COUNCILLOR TURNER. YOU'RE MUTED COUNCILLOR TURNER. THANK YOU. I APOLOGIZE. ARE WE SURE THIS ONE HAS TO GO TO CLOSED SESSION? IT'S JUST AN UPDATE. POTENTIALLY MR. ANTUNES MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AS FAR AS HIS UPDATE ON THIS ONE [INAUDIBLE]. OK, THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH TO COUNCILLOR TURNER, THERE IS A PROPONENT NAMED IN THE MEMO AS WELL AND POTENTIAL PURCHASE, SO THAT'S WHY IT WOULD MOVE INTO CLOSED BUT AGAIN, IT'S THE WILL OF COUNCIL AND I DEFER TO MR. GAGNON FOR SOME ADVICE. I'M A LITTLE GREEN WHEN IT COMES TO THIS SO I APOLOGIZE. THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME. THERE'S A PROPONENT NAMED IN IT. IT'S GOOD ENOUGH. GO TO CLOSED SESSION. OK COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP. YOU JUST GLITCHED OUT. SOMEWHAT SIMILAR. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YOU'RE CUTTING IN AND OUT. NOW YOU CAN HEAR ME. YEAH. NO YOU'RE GONE AGAIN. HOW ABOUT NOW? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO I WANT TO GO BACK TO OPEN SESSION, SO WE DON'T DEAL WITH THESE PROBLEMS. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. AND NOW YOU'RE FROZEN AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW. POSSIBLY, IF YOU TURN OFF YOUR VIDEO, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO STREAM THE SOUND BETTER, I'M NOT SURE. IT WAS COMPLETELY FROZEN. MUST BE EASTLINK. I COULD HEAR YOU. YOUR VIDEO IS COMPLETELY FROZEN. [01:05:04] OK. SEEING MOVEMENT. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. HOPEFULLY, I DON'T FREEZE. SIMILAR TO COUNCILLOR TURNER, I AGREE THIS SHOULD PROBABLY BE DISCUSSED IN OPEN SESSION. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT STAFF IN THE FUTURE ON ITEMS LIKE THIS DON'T PUT AN IDENTIFIABLE INTO IT SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THESE MATTERS IN OPEN SESSION BECAUSE IT IS AN UPDATE ON LAND POLICY. MR. GAGNON. A LITTLE CHALLENGING WHEN WE HAVE A PROPONENT THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO, AND COUNCILLOR IS FULLY AWARE OF THE PROPONENT AND WE'RE WORKING ON THINGS, HOWEVER, DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T DO A HYBRID OR WE CAN'T SPEAK IN GENERALITIES ABOUT THE PROPERTY. LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITHOUT NAMING NAMES AND WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE GORY DETAILS, IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S WISH. IT'S RISKY, BUT WE COULD TIPTOE AROUND AND MAKE IT HAPPEN AND THEN TALK ABOUT THE DETAILS IN CLOSED AND THEN CIRCLE BACK OPEN AS NEEDED. IT COMES DOWN TO THE WILL OF COUNCIL, IT'S NOT A SHALL BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION. IT'S A MAY, BUT IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO COUNCIL. WE COULD MAYBE TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AS TO WHAT 13B TIMBER ROAD IS, AND THAT MIGHT HELP TAKE SOME OF THE MYSTERY AROUND IT BECAUSE ASSUMING IF YOU GRAB SOMEONE ON THE STREET AND ASK THEM AT 13B TIMBER ROAD WAS, THEY WOULD HAVE NO IDEA. BUT AGAIN, IT'S UP THE COUNCIL. AT LEAST THIS ONE AND THE NEXT ONE ACTUALLY HAVE THE ADDRESSES AND PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. YEAH. AND MAYBE YOU CAN LOOK AT SOME HYBRID IN THE FUTURE, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW. I WOULD ASK A CALL THE QUESTION TO PUT THIS IN CLOSED SESSION OR NOT. AND I'LL START ROLL CALL WITH EVERYONE SWITCHED AROUND ON MY SCREEN HERE COUNCILLOR PEARCE. FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. OPPOSED. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR MANN. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR CYR. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR TURNER, FAVOR. AND I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED TO CLOSED. 6.4 MEMO FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RE: FORMER MNR LAND SALES RFP AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH THE POTENTIAL DISPOSITION OF PROPERTY OWNED BY THE MUNICIPALITY AS WELL ADVICE THAT IS SUBJECT TO SOLICITOR CLIENT PRIVILEGE, IT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION AS PER SECTION 239 [INAUDIBLE] MUNICIPAL ACT. AGAIN, I'D LOOK FOR A MOVER TO PUT THIS IN CLOSED SESSION. MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR CYR. AGAIN QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES. SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR TURNER. FAVOR. COUNCILLOR CYR. FAVOR. COUNCILLOR MANN. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. BASED ON THE REPORT THAT'S ATTACHED, I HAVE NO CHOICE, THERE'S TOO MUCH IDENTIFIABLE STUFF IN THERE. AGAIN, I WOULDN'T I WOULD PREFER THESE TO BE DONE IN OPEN, BUT THIS I WILL VOTE FOR CLOSE. OK THANK YOU. I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED TO CLOSED. SEVEN PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS. [8. OUTSIDE BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTING] EIGHT OUTSIDE BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTING. 8.1 REFERRAL FROM THE FEBRUARY 9, 2022 ELLIOT LAKE POLICE SERVICES BOARD RE: 2021 ELLIOT LAKE POLICE SERVICES BOARD YEAR END REPORT AND DECEMBER 2021 CALLS FOR SERVICE BILLING SUMMARY REPORT AND WE HAVE DETACHMENT COMMANDER STURGEON, THERE HE IS JUST POPPED UP. GOOD EVENING, DETACHMENT COMMANDER, GOOD TO SEE YOU, IT'S GOING TO BE AWESOME TO HAVE YOU GO THROUGH OUR YEAR END REPORT FOR US THIS EVENING. SORRY, I BELIEVE COUNCILLOR PEARCE WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH IT. YES. [INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU, EVERYBODY HAS A COPY OF THE REPORT ON THEM, SO I'M NOT GOING TO READ IT IN ITS DETAIL. I WANT TO THANK INSPECTOR STURGEON FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER. KEY HIGHLIGHTS IS THAT THE COMMUNITY SAFETY AND WELL-BEING PLAN HAS BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE 2021. THE MAYOR AND CHAIR OF POLICE SERVICES BOARD, AS WELL AS DETACHMENT COMMANDER, SAT ON A MULTI-SECTORAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO ASSIST WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ELLIOT LAKE COMMUNITY SAFETY AND WELL-BEING PLAN. PROJECT WAS UNDERWAY PRIOR TO 2021, HOWEVER, IN 2021, THE PLAN WAS FINALIZED AND [01:10:01] IDENTIFIED THREE SAFETY STRATEGIES FOR THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE. SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVOR TREATMENT, ISOLATED SENIOR SUPPORTS AND YOUTH ENGAGEMENT INITIATIVES. ON SEXUAL ASSAULT EVIDENCE KIT COLLECTION. CURRENTLY, SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT ARE NOT ABLE TO ACCESS SEXUAL ASSAULT EVIDENCE KIT COLLECTION AND FOLLOW UP TREATMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE OR THE GREATER EAST ALGOMA AREA. IN ORDER TO HAVE AS SA SELECTION COMPLETED, SURVIVORS MUST LEAVE THEIR COMMUNITY AND ATTEND THE SPECIALIST SEXUAL ASSAULT CLINIC AT A SIOUX AREA HOSPITAL AND SIOUX SAINT MARIE. AS NOTED ABOVE, ELLIOT LAKE ESWB PLAN IDENTIFIED THE LOCAL SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVOR TREATMENT AS A SAFETY STRATEGY PRIOR PRIORITY TO BETTER SERVE SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. SO IN 2021, THE SEXUAL ASSAULT EVIDENCE COLLECTION PROJECT, NOW SPEARHEADED BY THE ELLIOT LAKE FAMILY HEALTH TEAM, WAS MOVED FORWARD WITH SUPPORT FROM A NUMBER OF MULTISECTOR PARTNERS, INCLUDING EAST ALGOMA DETACHMENT. THE MOBILE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM, TWENTY ONE, 2021 MARKS THE FIRST FULL YEAR OF THE MOBILE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM IN ELLIOT LAKE. THE PROGRAM IS A JOINT VENTURE BETWEEN THE CITY, THE COUNSELING CENTER OF EAST ALGOMA AND THE THE OPP DETACHMENT. THE MCRT PROGRAM INVOLVES CO-RESPONSE MODEL IN WHICH PHONE CALLS FOR SERVICE INVOLVING A PERSON IN CRISIS ARE ALSO COLLABORATIVELY RESPONDED TO WITH A REGISTERED SOCIAL WORKER TO PROVIDE MORE APPROPRIATE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES TO A PERSON AT THE EXACT TIME OF THEIR CRISIS OR VIA AFTER THE FACT FOLLOW UP. THE PROGRAM IS FUNDED BY THE MINISTRY OF THE SOLICITOR GENERAL'S COMMUNITY SAFETY AND POLICING GRANT AND THE 2029 2019 20 AND 2021 22 GRANT CYCLE. AND THE BOARD HAS APPLIED FOR UPCOMING COMMUNITY SAFETY AND POLICING GRANT CYCLE THAT WOULD ALLOW THE PROGRAM TO CONTINUE THROUGH TO THE 2024 25 GRANT CYCLE. POLICE HOSPITAL TRANSITION OF CARE PROTOCOL IN 2021, THE EAST ALGOMA DETACHMENT AND ST. JOSEPH'S GENERAL HOSPITAL CREATED A POLICE HOSPITAL COMMITTEE MADE UP OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM BOTH THE AGENCIES, AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF LOCAL PARTNERS WITH VESTED INTERESTS IN IMPROVING MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES FOR THOSE WHO ARE APPREHENDED BY THE POLICE PURSUANT TO THE MENTAL HEALTH ACT. KEY THING HERE IS THAT THE PROTOCOL AIMS TO PROVIDE MORE COMPASSIONATE CARE FOR THOSE IN MENTAL HEALTH CRISES BY REDUCING CRIMINALIZATION, IMPROVING INFORMATION SHARING AND ENABLING A JOINT RISK ANALYSIS TO BETTER PROTECT THE SAFETY OF PATIENTS, HOSPITAL STAFF AND POLICE. THE SEXUAL ASSAULT INVESTIGATOR PILOT PROJECT IN SEPTEMBER 2021, THE DETACHMENT LAUNCHED THE SEXUAL ASSAULT INVESTIGATOR PILOT PROJECT, AIMED AT BETTER SUPPORTING SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT AND IMPROVING INVESTIGATIVE OUTCOMES IN LINE WITH THE OPP'S VICTIM RESPONSE SUPPORT STRATEGY. THERE IS A GREATER FOCUS ON HAVING VICTIM CENTERED INVESTIGATIONS THAT ADOPT A TRAUMA INFORMED APPROACH TO SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE. CRISIS CALLED DIVERSION. IN NOVEMBER OF 2021, THE OPP IMPLEMENTED THE CRISIS CALLED DIVERSION PROGRAM THAT SERVICES THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, AS WELL AS ALL COMMUNITIES SERVICED BY THE OPP'S NORTH BAY DETACHMENT PROVINCIAL COMMUNICATION CENTER IN NORTH BAY. THE PROGRAM IS DELIVERED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CANADIAN MENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION IN NORTH BAY. THE CCD PROGRAM EMBEDS A MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTION CRISIS WORKER IN THE PCC. THE WORKER CAN RESPOND TO CALLS INVOLVING INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY BE EXPERIENCING A CRISIS EVENT AND WHO CONSENT TO SPEAK WITH THE CRISIS WORKER. THE PROGRAM CAN ASSIST INDIVIDUALS WITH A VARIETY OF ACUTE CRISIS SITUATIONS, INCLUDING MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES, RELATIONSHIP CONFLICT OR FAMILY ISSUES. THE MUNICIPAL EMERGENCY CONTROL GROUP THE WORLD A BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC SINCE MARCH OF 2020, ONTARIO HAS BEEN PROGRESSING THROUGH MULTIPLE LEGISLATIVE AND POLICY CHANGES, AS WE'RE ALL AWARE, AS A MEANS OF WORKING TO CONTROL THE OUTBREAK OF THE VIRUS. THE DETACHMENT HAS SINCE THE OUTBREAK OF THE PANDEMIC, WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL EMERGENCY CONTROL GROUP AND THE ALGOMA PUBLIC HEALTH TO NAVIGATE THE EVER CHANGING LEGISLATION, PROVIDE CONSISTENT MESSAGING TO THE PUBLIC AND ENSURE A MEASURED APPROACH WHEN IT COMES TO ENFORCEMENT. WHEN IT COMES TO STAFFING, THE DETACHMENT WELCOMED THREE NEW RECRUITS WHO WERE HIRED BY THE RECRUITING PROCESS, IN ADDITION TO ADDITIONAL NEW RECRUITS, HAVE BEEN HIRED AND ARE CURRENTLY TRAINING IN THE ONTARIO POLICE COLLEGE AND PROVINCIAL POLICE ACADEMY. FURTHER, FOUR EXPERIENCED OFFICERS JOINED THE DETACHMENT IN ELLIOT LAKE BY TRANSFERRING IN FROM ELSEWHERE. ONE EXPERIENCED SUPERVISOR WILL ALSO BE TRANSFERRING TO ELLIOT LAKE IN THE SPRING OF 2022. IN 2021 THE DETACHMENT MAINTAINED STABLE STAFFING LEVELS DESPITE PANDEMIC RELATED [01:15:01] CHALLENGES. THEY NOW HAVE FOUR PHASE STRATEGIC FRONT LINE STAFFING RESPONSE PLAN TO ADDRESS POTENTIAL CRITICAL STAFFING SHORTAGES RESULTING FROM THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC. FORTUNATELY, THE DETACHMENT HAS NOT HAD ANY MAJOR STAFFING INTERRUPTIONS THAT REQUIRE THE PLAN TO BE ACTIONED AND REMAINS IN A NORMAL STAFFING CONDITION. CALLS FOR SERVICE SUMMARY NOW YOU ALL HAVE THE COPY OF THE DETAILED REPORT. VIOLENT CRIMES CALL FOR SERVICE, CALL FOR SERVICE, ARE AT AN 11 PERCENT INCREASE OVER FIVE YEAR AVERAGE. INCREASE IS PRIMARILY ATTRIBUTED TO A 40 PERCENT INCREASE IN REPORTED SEXUAL ASSAULTS OVER THE FIVE YEAR AVERAGE. THE NOTABLE INCREASE IS ATTRIBUTED TO ONE OFFENDER WITH MULTIPLE VICTIMS. PROPERTY CRIME CALLS FOR SERVICES SHOW A TWO PERCENT INCREASE. FAILED TO APPEAR IN COURT, ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TWO PERCENT INCREASE OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD. THIS IS ATTRIBUTED TO THE COURT BEING IN VARIOUS STAGES OF CLOSURE OVER 2020. IN 2021 THE COURT OPERATIONS RESUMED A MASSIVE BACKLOG OF CASES MOVED THROUGH THE COURTS AND RESULTED IN SIGNIFICANTLY ABOVE AVERAGE CASES OF FAILURE TO APPEAR. IT CAN BE REASONABLY EXPECTED THAT HIGHER THAN AVERAGE CASES OF FAILURE TO APPEAR IN COURT WILL CONTINUE THROUGH 2022 AS THE COURT CONTINUES TO DEAL WITH BACKLOGS OF CASES. CONTROLLED DRUGS AND SUBSTANCE, 32 PERCENT INCREASE OVER A FIVE YEAR AVERAGE. THE DRUG RELATED OCCURRENCES CAN BE PARTIALLY ATTRIBUTED TO PROACTIVE WORK BY BOTH THE FRONT LINE OFFICERS AND THE EAST ALGOMA COMMUNITY STREET CRIME UNIT. OF NOTE, THE CATEGORY OF CALLS FOR SERVICE ALSO INCLUDES DRUG RELATED TIPS TO POLICE. CONSEQUENTLY, AN INCREASE IN THIS CATEGORY CAN ALSO BE AN INDICATION OF INCREASED INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION AND CALLS FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS. FALSE ALARMS, 78 PERCENT INCREASE OVER THE FIVE YEAR AVERAGE. THIS IS AN ONGOING PROBLEM THAT WE'VE HAD IN ELLIOT LAKE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, WE'RE RECOGNIZING THE TREND OF INCREASED FALSE ALARMS. THE OPP REACHED OUT TO LOCAL ESTABLISHMENTS ASSOCIATED TO FREQUENT CALL ALARMS, FALSE ALARM CALLS FOR SERVICE. IN DOING SO, THE OPERATORS OF THE ESTABLISHMENTS WERE REMINDED OF THE DRAIN ON POLICE RESOURCES THAT IS CREATED BY FALSE ALARMS AND ASKED TO IMPLEMENT MORE ROBUST PROCESSES TO REDUCE FALSE ALARMS. UNFORTUNATELY, FALSE ALARM CALLS CONTINUE TO BE ABOVE AVERAGE. TOTAL BILLINGS BILLABLE CALLS FOR SERVICE REMAIN RELATIVELY STABLE, WITH A FOUR PERCENT INCREASE OVER THE FIVE YEAR AVERAGE AND IN PATROL ACTIVITY DURING 2021 THREE MILLION THREE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED FIFTY FOUR AND A QUARTER HOURS OF PATROL WERE CONDUCTED BY IN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE. THIS INCLUDES VEHICLE PATROL, FOOT PATROL, DIRECTED PATROLS, AS WELL AS TRAFFIC RELATED PATROLS. PROACTIVE CALLS FOR SERVICE, APPROXIMATELY 60 PERCENT OF TOTAL CALLS FOR SERVICE WERE PROACTIVE, MEANING THEY WERE INITIATED BY OFFICERS. IN DOWNTOWN CRIME AREA CRIME IN 2021, BOARD MEMBERS RAISED PROPERTY CRIME, DRUG AND LIQUOR RELATED OCCURRENCES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA OF THE CITY. AN ANALYSIS WAS CONDUCTED USING THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA OF DOWNTOWN AND PROPERTY CRIME RELATED CALLS FOR SERVICE IN 2021 WERE 33 PERCENT BELOW THE THREE YEAR AVERAGE. THE NUMBER OF CALLS FOR SERVICE RELATED TO DRUGS AND OR LIQUOR LICENSE ACT ARE TOO LOW TO PROVIDE MEANINGFUL TREND ANALYSIS. THE THREE YEAR AVERAGE OF CALLS FOR SERVICE RELATED DRUGS IS TWO PER YEAR AND THE AVERAGE FOR LIQUOR LICENSE ACT RELATED CALLS FOR SERVICES AT 1.7 PER YEAR. ON MENTAL HEALTH, WE SAW A 31 PERCENT INCREASE IN MENTAL HEALTH ACT CALLS FOR SERVICE COMPARED TO A FIVE YEAR AVERAGE. ANECDOTALLY, PRESSURE RELATED TO THE PANDEMIC HAVE IMPACTED THE NUMBER OF MENTAL HEALTH CALLS FOR SERVICE, POLICE OR FOR SERVICE POLICE ARE RECEIVING, BOTH BECAUSE OF MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS BEING EXACERBATED BY THE PANDEMIC, AS WELL AS REDUCTION OF AN IN-PERSON MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES BEING AVAILABLE THROUGH OTHER PROGRAMS. ALTHOUGH AS WAS ABOVE, THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN MENTAL HEALTH ACTS FOR SERVICE ACT CALLS FOR SERVICE. THERE HAVE BEEN POSITIVE TRENDS IN EAST ALGOMA WITH DETACHMENT AREA WITH REGARDS TO APPREHENSIONS UNDER THE MENTAL HEALTH ACT. THE NUMBER OF INVOLUNTARY APPREHENSIONS HAS STEADILY DECLINED, WITH ONLY 19 PERCENT CALLS FOR SERVICE IN 2021, RESULTING IN INVOLUNTARY APPREHENSION. DIVERSIONS AND REFERRALS HAVE STEADILY INCREASED, WITH 27 PERCENT OF MENTAL HEALTH ACT CALLS FOR SERVICE BEING RESOLVED BY REFERRING THE INDIVIDUAL TO ANOTHER MORE APPROPRIATE CARE PROVIDER. OVERDOSES IN 2021, THE EAST ALGOMA DETACHMENTS SAW 52 PERCENT REDUCTION IN OVERDOSES RELATED CALLS FOR SERVICE COMPARED TO 2020. THIS INCLUDES FATAL AND NON-FATAL SUSPECTED OVERDOSE RELATED CALLS FOR SERVICE. WHEN COMPARED TO A THREE YEAR AVERAGE OVERDOSE RELATED CALLS IN EAST ALGOMA, WERE DOWN SEVEN PERCENT. HOWEVER, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT 2021 WAS AN ANOMALY, ACCOUNTING FOR 61 PERCENT OF ALL [01:20:05] OVERDOSES DURING A THREE YEAR PERIOD. THE POTENTIAL CAUSE FOR THE SMOKING OVERDOSES MAY BE FACTORS RELATED TO COVID 19 SINCE THE ONSET OF THE PANDEMIC IN MARCH 2020, RATES OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES FOR SUSPECTED OPIOID OVERDOSES INCREASED BY 57 PERCENT, AND THE RATES OF FATAL OPIOID OVERDOSES INCREASED BY 60 PERCENT IN ONTARIO. IN 2021 EAST ALGOMA DETACHMENT PARTICIPATED IN AN AWARENESS CAMPAIGN REGARDING GOOD SAMARITAN DRUG OVERDOSE ACT, WHICH PROVIDES SOME LEGAL PROTECTION TO PERSONS SEEKING EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE DURING AN OVERDOSE SITUATION. THERE YOU GO. ON BEHALF OF THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD, AND I'M SURE THE MR. STURGEON WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE. THANK YOU, COMMANDER STURGEON, FOR THE DETAILED YEAR END. VERY GOOD, PROACTIVE THINGS CAME OUT OF THIS YEAR'S SERVICE. FIRST, START WITH LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO RECEIVE THE REPORT. MOVE BY COUNCILLOR MANN, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, THANK YOU. I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS REPORT, THE LAST YEAR OF SERVICE IN THE COMMUNITY. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU, IF I MAY. SO THE REPORT SAYS THAT THERE'S WEIGHTED HOURS OF FIFTEEN THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED MAN HOURS IN WEIGHTED TIME, THERE'S AN ACTUAL YEAR TO DATE OF THREE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY ONE MAN HOURS PROVIDED TO THE MUNICIPALITY. MY QUESTION IS, IS THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD ACTUALLY MONITORING THE AMOUNT OF MAN HOURS THAT ARE BEING OPERATED WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY? I KNOW YEARS PAST, AND I KNOW I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE POLICE SERVICES ISSUES OVER THE YEARS. I NOW CAN. I NO LONGER HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. AND SO YEARS AGO, THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD WAS ACTUALLY MONITORING WHEN OFFICERS WERE ON DUTY IN TOWN BECAUSE WE WERE WE'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE PAYING FOR THE SERVICES THAT WE RECEIVED, SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD IS STILL MONITORING HOW MANY MAN HOURS ARE BEING PRESENTED TO THIS MUNICIPALITY AS OPPOSED TO THE CALLS FOR SERVICE. THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT ACTUAL NUMBERS. IF THEY'RE WEIGHTED NUMBERS, YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER THERE'S EIGHT THOUSAND HOURS IN A YEAR. SO IF WE'RE PAYING $3 MILLION A YEAR FOR POLICE SERVICES, THAT'S SAYING THAT WE HAVE TWO NUMBERS OF WAITED HOURS, WHICH WOULD BE MANAGEMENT AND STAFF AND EVERYBODY. SO WE WOULD HAVE TWO PEOPLE FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR. TWENTY FOUR HOURS A DAY IS ALL WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN BASED ON THAT WEIGHTED. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW, ARE WE MONITORING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING POLICE SERVICES BASED ON WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO GET? IS IT BEING MONITORED BY THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD THE WAY THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO MONITOR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE SERVICE THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR? I'M NOT 100 PERCENT SURE I UNDERSTAND HOW THE ANY POLICE SERVICES BOARD MEMBER WOULD MONITOR OTHER THAN THROUGH REPORTING. WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SIT AT THE POLICE STATION TO MAKE SURE HOW MANY OFFICERS ARE ON DUTY AT ONE TIME. I JUST WE BASE EVERYTHING ON OUR MONTHLY REPORTS. SO IF I MAY YOUR WORSHIP THERE WERE. THERE IS DOCUMENTATION AND THERE WAS DOCUMENTATION THAT USED TO BE ABLE TO BE AVAILABLE TO THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD THAT WOULD TELL THEM HOW MANY OFFICERS THEIR CALL LOGS AND CALL TIMES ARE ACTUALLY WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR OFFICERS THAT ARE STATIONED IN ELLIOT LAKE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO BLIND RIVER. THEY WOULD GO TO SPANISH. THEY WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF OUR MUNICIPALITY WHILE THEY BILLED ON OUR HOURS. IT'S ALSO THE SAME THING IF THEY WERE POLICE OFFICERS FILLING IN FROM BLIND RIVER AND THE OPP ARE VERY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO. THEY DO MONITOR WHERE EVERYBODY IS AT ALL TIMES. SO THERE IS DOCUMENTATION. AND THAT USED TO BE PROVIDED TO THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD TO MAKE SURE. AND YEARS AGO, WE USED TO RECEIVE CREDITS BECAUSE WE WEREN'T RECEIVING FULL SERVICE BECAUSE THERE WASN'T AN AVAILABILITY OF STAFF AT THE TIME. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT BEING MONITORED BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GET THAT, BUT I THINK MR. STURGEON MAY HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I'M SORRY. [01:25:01] STIPULATE THE NUMBERS OF HOURS FOR MUNICIPALITY FOR POLICING, THAT'S NO LONGER THE CASE IN THE CURRENT BILLING MODEL. [INAUDIBLE] BACK A NUMBER OF YEARS THERE. IF THEY CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU EXACTLY [INAUDIBLE] JUST CONTINUED TO THE CURRENT [INAUDIBLE]. SO THE ONLY THING WE HAVE TO RELY ON IS THE CURRENT MODEL, THEN WITH THE BILLABLE WEIGHTED HOURS AND NOT SURE HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY IN TOWN IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING. ALL OF THOSE BILLABLE CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE WITHIN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE. YES. [INAUDIBLE] DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILLOR PATRIE OR? [INAUDIBLE] IF I MAY, YES, IT DOES. SO VIRTUALLY WHAT IT'S SAYING IS BASED ON ACTUAL YEAR TO DATE HOURS CALL FOR SERVICE. WE'RE PAYING $1000 AN HOUR FOR THREE THOUSAND [INAUDIBLE] SERVICE. AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ACTUALLY BE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH STAFF ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD TO DO THIS. AND IT'S VERY, VERY COSTLY ENDEAVOR IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE RECEIVING COVERAGE THAT WE CANNOT DICTATE HOW MUCH COVERAGE WE'RE GETTING AT THAT KIND OF PRICE. OK, SO THAT MIGHT BE DISCUSSIONS FOR THE FUTURE WHEN WE REVIEW CONTRACTUAL SERVICES FOR THE FUTURE AND WE MIGHT WANT TO ADDITIONALLY LOOK AT ENHANCEMENTS AND SPECIAL OFFICER OFFICERS FOR THE COMMUNITY ALONG WITH THOSE ENHANCEMENTS. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S MORE OF A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT THAT WE LOOK AT THE FUTURE. MR. GAGNON DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD TO THAT? SIMPLY KIND OF WHAT YOU SAID IS WE HAVE A MOTION ALREADY ON THE TABLE FROM COUNCIL AND I BELIEVE DECEMBER AND INSPECTOR STURGEON AND MS. BRAY AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT. THAT'S STILL SET TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR A DEEPER DIVE INTO THE BILLING MODEL AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ALREADY ASKED. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S REALLY CONTEMPLATED BY THIS EVENING'S REPORT, WHICH WAS JUST THE YEAR END REPORTS. I JUST WE HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN LOST SIGHT OF THAT. THAT DIRECTION, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST THE YEAR END 2021 [INAUDIBLE]. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR TURNER. THANK YOUR WORSHIP. THAT WAS A GREAT REPORT. THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PEARCE, IT'S NICE TO WEE THIS REPORT ANNUALLY. NOT BEING A MEMBER OF POLICE SERVICES BOARD I KIND OF WISH WE WE GOT IT MORE OFTEN. I HAVE TWO QUICK QUESTIONS. THE MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS WORKERS IS A THAT PROJECT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. I THINK IT'S AWESOME. THE DIVERSION AWAY FROM THROWING SOMEBODY IN THE SLAMMER, I THINK BENEFITS EVERYBODY. AND I'M GLAD THAT IT'S CONTINUING. THE ONE THING THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS ABOUT THE CONTINUATION OF THE GRANTS. SO DID I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY THAT WE'RE GOOD TILL 2024 25? AND IS IT JUST ONE WORKER? SO WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY GOOD TILL 2025, SO THE CURRENT GRANT CYCLE ENDS MARCH 30TH, I BELIEVE. SO THE POLICE SERVICE BOARD [INAUDIBLE] THE CITY APPLIES FOR THIS GRANT. THE GRANT THEN GOES TO THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD THE CITY ENTERS INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] FUND A SOCIAL WORKER AND THEN THE OPP ENTERS INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE COUNSELOR SERVICE. THEY'LL GO ONTO HAVE THAT SOCIAL WORKER EMBEDDED WITH US. SO MR. ANTUNES CAN PROBABLY SPEAK MORE TO THE STATUS OF THE UPCOMING GRANT, BUT I EXPECT HE PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE AN ANSWER OR ELSE I WOULD HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT BY NOW. SO FOR THE CURRENT APPLICATION FOR THE NEXT CYCLE. AND THAT ONE WORKER THAT WE HAVE NOW IS THAT ENOUGH TO MEET THE DEMAND? I WOULD SAY THE DEMAND IS 24/7, BUT WE JUST THERE'S NO FUNDING JUST FOR 24/7 COVERAGE. WE NEED MORE THAN ONE SOCIAL WORKER AND THAT'S JUST NOT WITHIN THE GRANT FUNDING AVAILABLE. OK, THANK YOU. AND LAST QUESTION. I SAW THE SECTION ON OVERDOSES. GLAD TO SEE THAT THEY'RE DOWN IT'S BY PERCENTAGE, SO I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE NUMBER IS IF IT WENT DOWN FROM TWO TO ONE. IT'S VERY SMALL. MY ONE QUESTION IS, CAN YOU TELL ME, DO MEMBERS OF THE FORCE CARRY NALOXONE? YES, ALL FRONTLINE MEMBERS CARRY INTRANASAL NARCAN SPRAY. [01:30:04] EXCELLENT, THANK YOU. THANK YOUR WORSHIP. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO COUNCILLOR PEARCE AND TO COMMANDER STURGEON, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. TO SHED A LITTLE LIGHT, I THINK IF MY MEMORY, IF I CAN REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE SURPLUS, SOMETIMES THAT WE USED TO GET A REFUND FROM THE POLICE SERVICE AT THE TIME WAS, I THINK THAT WE ASSUMED OVERTIME CHARGES FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. AND IF WE IF YOU DIDN'T USE ALL THAT MONEY, I BELIEVE THAT'S MONEY THAT WE WOULD HAVE RETURNED TO US AT THE END OF A CONTRACTUAL YEAR. THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION FROM BEING ON THE POLICE SERVICES BOARD. COMMANDER STURGEON I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THESE INITIATIVES THAT ARE YOU SAID YOU'D CARRY FORWARD WITH AND YOU HAVE AND I AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT. I THINK THE SEXUAL ASSAULT EVIDENCE KIT IS SO, SO LONG OVERDUE FROM MY DAYS IN WORKING WITH SEXUAL ASSAULT AND HAVING TO ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY DRIVE SOMEONE TO [INAUDIBLE] TO ST. MARY TO BE TESTED WAS A HORRIFIC EXPERIENCE FOR WORKERS AS WELL AS FOR THE VICTIMS. SO I THINK I THINK THE ALL THE PARTNERS THAT WORKED WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE ELLIOT LAKE, THE COUNSELING CENTER OF EAST ALGOMA AND THE ELLIOT LAKE FAMILY HEALTH TEAM, THEY'VE STEPPED UP A LOT IN THESE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO REALLY BECOME REALLY GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNERS. NOT THAT THEY WEREN'T BEFORE, BUT THEY'VE TAKEN ON SOME INITIATIVES THAT ARE COMMUNITY BASED, AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO THAT. AND I THANK YOU AND YOUR OFFICERS FOR YOUR ONGOING GROWTH AND SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY AND TO RECENTLY TO THE MORE TIMELY. PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMING OUT, THEY I REALLY THINK THEY HELP THE CITIZENS SE YOU THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE OPP IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT. AND I GUESS I GUESS MY QUESTION AROUND THE OVERDOSES WOULD BE. NOT A I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO REACH IN THE STARS AND FIND THE ANSWER, BUT DO YOU THINK THAT THE DECREASE IN THE OVERDOSES ARE BECAUSE OF THE NEW PROGRAMING? OR DO YOU THINK THAT IT'S JUST THAT THE DRUGS THAT WERE ON THE STREET THE PREVIOUS YEARS WERE JUST A LOT MORE DEADLY? CAN YOU GIVE US ANY IDEA AS TO WHY WE'RE SO FAR BELOW THE PROVINCIAL STANDARD, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY YOU THINK IT'S TRENDING THAT WAY. I REALLY WOULD BE REACHING INTO THE STAR TO PROVIDE A FULL ANSWER ON THAT. HOWEVER, LIKE SOMETHING TO BEAR IN MIND IS THAT OVERDOSES CAN COME IN WAVES. SO [INAUDIBLE] COMMUNITY CAN HAVE TO GET OFF OF THAT. AND ALSO IN 2020 PEOPLE, WE'RE STILL ADJUSTING TO THE PANDEMIC. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE 62 PERCENT OF THE [INAUDIBLE] OR SORT OF CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S THREE OR FIVE YEARS IN EAST ALGOMA [INAUDIBLE] 2020. SO ALSO NOW PEOPLE AND SERVICE PROVIDERS ARE ADJUSTING A LITTLE BIT MORE TO PROVIDE [INAUDIBLE] SERVICE. VIDEO OR IN-PERSON SERVICES HAVE STARTED TO RESUME. IN 2020, WE SAW A MASSIVE GAP IN THAT RATE THAT THE POLICE WERE ONE OF THE ONLY SERVICE PROVIDERS THAT CAN STILL PROVIDE THAT SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY EXISTED. SO I THINK IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF JUST THE DRUGS THAT YOU SAID SORT OF [INAUDIBLE] SYSTEM, SERVICE, OTHER SERVICE PROVIDERS STEPPING UP MORE. AND IT CAN ALSO BE THESE ARE ONLY POLICE INVOLVED OVERDOSES, RIGHT? OVERDOSES [INAUDIBLE] YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE ACCESSING HEALTH SERVICES DIRECTLY OR FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO CARRYING NARCAN THEMSELVES AND HELPING PEOPLE THROUGH OVERDOSES THE POLICE AREN'T NECESSARILY INVOLVED AS MUCH. SO THESE ARE ONLY OVERDOSES THE POLICE ARE INVOLVED WITH, AND THAT MAY NOT BE THE FULLEST PICTURE OF THE ENTIRE OVERDOSE SITUATION. SO YOU KNOW ALGOMA PUBLIC HEALTH OR THE HOSPITAL, DEPENDING HOW [INAUDIBLE] CAN ALSO HAVE DIFFERING INFORMATION THERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY DO. OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. COULDN'T UNMUTE, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. I WANT TO JUST GO BACK TO THE QUESTION THAT THE COUNCILLOR TURNER BROUGHT UP. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS ANY AND I WOULD ASK THAT INSPECTOR STURGEON AND MAYBE THE MAYOR HELP ME OUT ON THIS ONE, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT PREVENTS US GIVING THE MONTHLY INFORMATION THAT WAS RECEIVED BY THE BOARD IN TERMS OF THE SERVICE CALLS TO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. [01:35:01] AND I KNOW CERTAINLY I WOULD IF I WASN'T ON THE BOARD, I WOULD. THAT'S KIND OF INFORMATION I'D LIKE TO HAVE ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO I'LL ASK INSPECTOR STURGEON, IF THAT'S THE CASE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT PREVENTS US FROM DOING SO. IS THAT RIGHT? NO, NOT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. THE REPORTS ARE SHARED WITH THE BOARD AS THE MUNICIPALITY REPRESENTATION. SO WHAT THE BOARD DOES WITH THAT INTERNALLY WITHIN THE CITY IS [INAUDIBLE]. GREAT. OK, SO THEN I THINK PERHAPS THE MAYOR IS CHAIR OF THE BOARD COULD MAKE THOSE AVAILABLE TO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ON A REGULAR BASIS. YEAH. JUST A SUGGESTION, ALSO, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS HAS BEEN QUITE A WHILE SINCE WE'VE HAD THE COMMANDER OF THE DETACHMENT ATTEND A COUNCIL MEETING, SO I WANT TO THANK COMMANDER STURGEON FOR SHOWING UP TONIGHT. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING SOME HEALTHY DISCUSSIONS IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL? OK SEEING, THEN AGAIN, I WOULD REITERATE COUNCILLOR PEARCE'S COMMENTS AND A BIG THANK YOU. WE'LL GO THROUGH THE DETACHMENT COMMANDER, INSPECTOR TYLER STURGEON. THAT'S QUITE THE MOUTHFUL. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND I WILL FOLLOW COUNCILLOR PEARCE ADVICE AND AFTER THE POLICE SERVICE BOARD MEETING FOR THE CALLS FOR SERVICE TO THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO REVIEW ALSO, ALTHOUGH IT WON'T BE AS MUCH FUN FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY WON'T HAVE A LINE BY LINE EXPLANATION FROM THE DETACHMENT COMMANDER, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO LIVE WITH THAT. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND I'M GOING TO ROLL CALL VOTE, RECEIVE THE YEAR END REPORT, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR MANN. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. FAVOR. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. FAVOR. COUNCILLOR CYR. FAVOR. COUNCILLOR TURNER. IN FAVOR. AND I'M IN FAVOR ALSO THANK YOU AGAIN INSPECTOR STURGEON AND YOU CAN GET BACK TO REAL TIME WORK NOW HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. HAVE A NICE NIGHT. OK ITEM NINE UNFINISHED BUSINESS. [9. UNFINISHED BUSINESS] 9.1 COMMUNITY REC HUB UPDATE STANDING ITEM MR. GAGNON. YES, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. WE ARE PRETTY MUCH READY TO HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING. WE COULD START SCHEDULING THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. WE RECENTLY GOT MORE REFINED NUMBERS FROM OUR CONSULTANTS, ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS. WE STILL HAVE A FEW MINOR RESEARCH ITEMS ARE HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY SECURING A REAL QUOTE ON DEMOLITION OF SOME OF THE OLD FACILITIES, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GIVE A PRORATED SORT OF ORDER OF SCALE, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT THE COUNCIL ASKED FOR, STILL TRYING TO LINE THAT UP. WE COULD BE HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING AS EARLY AS NEXT WEEK. HOWEVER, OUR IF WE WISH TO HAVE OUR KEY ARCHITECT MR. [INAUDIBLE] FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] PRESENTED TO COUNCIL BEFORE HE IS AVAILABLE UNTIL THE 25TH OF FEBRUARY. I'M THINKING MAYBE THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH OR THE 28TH OR THAT WEEK MIGHT BE THE BEST TIME TO HAVE A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING, IF THAT'S THE FORMAT WE CHOOSE, AND YOU CAN INVITE OUR USER GROUPS OR AT THE VERY LEAST HAVE IT IN OPEN OF COURSE, IT'S FAIRLY ROBUST PACKAGE LIKE WE'VE SEEN BEFORE WITH SOME SCHEMATICS AND LOTS OF BUDGET NUMBERS. OR WE CAN HAVE THAT WITHOUT HIS PRESENCE AND MR. ANTUNES AND I CAN WALK THROUGH THE NUMBERS [INAUDIBLE] COMPLETELY UP TO COUNCIL HOW YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT FORMAT AND THE TIMINGS SO YOU KNOW THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH IS THE SAFEST. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE IT WITHOUT THE KEY ARCHITECT WHO CAN ANSWER A LOT OF TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, OF COURSE, MORE THAN MR. ANTUNES AND I'VE BEEN ABLE TO ABSORB OVER TIME [INAUDIBLE]. WE'RE NOT ARCHITECTS OR ENGINEERS. OK, COUNCILLOR PATRIE HAD A QUESTION. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THIS NOT THE SPECIAL MEETING NOT BE HELD UNTIL WE CAN DO THIS IN PERSON AND IF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WANT TO ATTEND, THEY CAN. I DON'T WANT TO DO IT OVER ZOOM. MR. GAGNON, THAT MIGHT BE A LONG WAIT. WELL, YES AND NO. WE COULD BE HAVING THIS IN THE COLLINS HALL NEXT WEEK WITHOUT ANY REAL CONCERN. IT WERE THIS IS NOT AGAIN IT'S UP TO COUNCIL WHEN IT COMES TO FORMAT WE'RE ESSENTIAL. THIS IS NOT A SOCIAL GATHERING. [01:40:02] THE REQUIREMENTS ARE LIFTING AS WE SPEAK OR LOOSENING. THE PROBLEM IS, IF WE DON'T HAVE THE ZOOM, WE LOSE SOME BROADCAST ABILITY. SO WE'RE IN THAT SAME PICKLE WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN. WE CAN HAVE AN IN-PERSON MEETING WITH THE MEDIA INVITED AND FIGURE OUT SOME OTHER WAY TO RECORD IT, BUT IF WE'RE NOT IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS OR ON ZOOM THEN WE LOSE THE ABILITY TO SIMULTANEOUSLY STREAM AND ARCHIVE AND ALL THAT. IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO COUNCIL, BUT UNTIL WE START HAVING THESE MEETINGS AND [INAUDIBLE] COUNCIL, WE'RE JUST GOING TO CONTINUE NOT HAVING ANY CLARITY ON NEXT STEPS FOR [INAUDIBLE]. IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO SIT WITH VARIOUS MINISTRIES AND WITH A REQUEST WHEN YOU'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING ANYMORE. IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE US FIGURE SOMETHING OUT SOONER THAN LATER, BECAUSE NEXT ON OUR LIST HERE IS IN PERSON CONFERENCES COMING UP AND WE WANT TO KNOW WHO WE'RE MEETING WITH AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR SO PERHAPS YOU CAN LATER ON IN THE WEEK MR. GAGNON KIND OF PETITION COUNCIL FOR HOW THEY'D LIKE TO GET TOGETHER AND TRY AND FIND OUT THE BEST MEANS FOR HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING TO TAKE CARE OF THIS AND HAVE THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. I KNOW WE DID DO A COMMUNITY INPUT SESSION ALREADY. REALISTICALLY, COUNCIL STILL NEEDS TO SIT TOGETHER AND GO OVER THIS COMMUNITY INPUT SESSION AND MAKE OUR DECISIONS, BUT AS I SAID, PERHAPS YOU COULD REACH OUT TO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND SEE WHAT'S THE MOST COMFORTABLE IN THE WAY FOR COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD ON MEETING. 9.2 WE HAVE A MEMO HERE WITH THE HUB UPDATE. I'M NOT WEARING MY READING GLASSES, SO I'LL GET YOU TO READ THAT, IF YOU MIGHT. SURE I'LL JUST PARAPHRASE UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO READ IT VERBATIM, BUT I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS TIME TO REVIEW A LITTLE BIT THE DETAILS OF SOME OF THE FUNDING THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPLIED FOR. WE HAVE THIS STANDING ITEM IN FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW, WE'VE BASICALLY BEEN SAYING, WELL, WE'RE WAITING FOR FUNDING AND WE HAVE NOTHING NEW TO REPORT. SO IT'S BEEN SO LONG THAT WE KEPT DOING THAT. I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD REFRESH COUNCIL'S MEMORY AND PUBLIC AT HOME AND OUR STAKEHOLDERS AS TO WHAT WE HAVE APPLIED FOR, WHICH I GOT PULLED UP ON MY PHONE HERE, BUT SO WE HAVE APPLIED AND MR. ANTUNES CAN HELP ME OUT FOR A GREEN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY BUILDING WHICH FUNDS FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT FUNDS NET ZERO DESIGNS. SO WE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR A CARBON NEUTRAL, NET NEUTRAL ARTS CULTURE HUB, THEATER MUSEUM AND ART STUDIO SPACES. WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THAT FUNDING. NO OTHER MUNICIPAL PARTNERS HAVE RECEIVED ANY FUNDING TO DATE SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE BEING IGNORED, AND EVERYONE ELSE IS GETTING GRANTS BECAUSE THE GRANTS NOT FULL YET. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PURELY INDIGENOUS PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED, BUT NO MUNICIPAL IN MUNICIPAL [INAUDIBLE] CATEGORY HAVE BEEN APPROVED YET, SO WE'RE STILL HOPING FOR THAT FUNDING TO COME THROUGH. IF THAT COMES THROUGH AND WE'RE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC WE CAN SECURE FUNDING FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] CANADA FUND, WE CAN PIECE ALL THAT TOGETHER AND WE'RE REASONABLY IN GOOD SHAPE FOR THAT. OUR CULTURE HUB WITH THOSE NUMBERS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE REPORT, WHICH IS 11 MILLION FROM THE GREEN FUND, THE THREE AND A HALF MILLION WE HAVE ON RESERVES FROM THE INSURANCE RECOVERY. OTHER FUNDERS, POTENTIALLY THE [INAUDIBLE] FOR TWO MILLION AND WE'RE IN WE'RE NOT TOO BAD OF SHAPE. IF WE DON'T GET THE GREEN GRANT WE HAVE A BIGGER PROBLEM IN THE SENSE THAT THE SMALLER FOOTPRINT FOR A NON-GREEN, WE CAN STRIP OUT THE NET ZERO ELEMENTS BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE A GRANT TO FUND IT. YOU CAN CHOOSE TO PUT SOMETHING BACK IN IF WE CHOOSE, BUT YOU KNOW IT IS COSTLY. WE'D BE LOOKING AT A $14 MILLION PROJECT EVEN IF WE REMOVE THE ART STUDIO SPACE AND I'M NOT LIKE I SAID IN MY MEMO, WHEN THE MEDIA REPORTED THAT ACCURATELY THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A DECISION THIS EVENING, I JUST WANTED TO REFRESH COUNCIL'S MEMORY ON THE FUNDING. ENVELOPES THAT WE HAVE IN PLAY OR POTENTIALLY IN PLAY IF WE DON'T GET THE GREEN GRANT, WE MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT PROBLEM BECAUSE EVEN IF WE REMOVE THE STUDIO SPACES FROM THE CONCEPT OF THE ARTS AND CULTURE HUB, WE STILL HAVE A $14 MILLION FACILITY TO BUILD WITH AN EXPECTATION OF MODEST GRANTS, AND WE HAVE THREE OR FOUR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT ARE FOR AN UNKNOWN SOURCE RIGHT NOW, SO THAT'S SOMEWHAT PROBLEMATIC. IN THE MEANTIME, REGARDLESS, WE DO HAVE A $1.1 MILLION RENOVATION SCHEDULED FOR THIS YEAR FOR THE FROM THE REEL TO REEL CINEMA. WE HAVE INVITED OUR STAKEHOLDERS TO HAVE A TOUR AND LOOK AROUND AT THE AT THE CORNER [01:45:06] MOVIE THEATER. WE HAVE FUNDS TO RENOVATE THAT SPACE AS AN INTERIM SPACE FOR THE DISPLACED ARTISTS, BOTH PERFORMING AND VISUAL, AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR INPUT THAT WE WILL BE IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO TRY TO JUST CONTEXTUALIZE IF WE CAN MAKE THAT SPACE AS FUNCTIONAL AS POSSIBLE AND FOR THE SHORT TERM, INTERIM OR POTENTIALLY LONG TERM IF WE DON'T SECURE SIGNIFICANT GRANTS FOR THE NEW BUILD. SO THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL, WE DID REACH OUT TO THE ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO GIVE THEM THIS MEMO, AND THEY HAD AN UPDATE ON IT. SO I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO GIVE COUNCIL A MORE CLEAR PICTURE AS TO WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW ON THE ARTS CULTURE SIDE AS WE CONTINUE TO HOPE FOR THAT FEDERAL GRANT. OK, THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE. 9.3 RESIDENTIAL WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS UPDATE. IS THERE ANYTHING NEW ON THIS ONE MR. GAGNON? NO, NOT PARTICULARLY. OK. COVID 19 UPDATE. NOTHING MUCH THERE, EITHER, OTHER THAN WHAT WE SEE FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] GOVERNMENT, OF COURSE, ANNOUNCING SOME LIFTING OF SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS, INCLUDING THE VACCINE PASSPORTS. WE'RE SIMPLY FOLLOWING THE DATES AND THE CRITERIA AS OUTLINED BY THE [INAUDIBLE] GOVERNMENT REOPENING PLAN, AND UNLESS WE'RE DIRECTED OTHERWISE, THAT'S WHAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW AS GUIDANCE FOR OUR INDOOR REC FACILITIES AND THE LIKE. OK, THANK YOU. PETITIONS, WE HAVE NO PROPER PETITIONS THAT HAVE COME TO COUNCIL FOR THIS EVENING. 11 CORRESPONDENCE 11.1 MEMO OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CAO CITY OF [11. CORRESPONDENCE] ELLIOT LAKE REPRESENTATION AT 2022 OGRA CONFERENCE. THIS IS USUALLY WHEN IT'S OGRA IS USUALLY ATTENDED BY THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. WHEN IT WAS OGRA ROMA COMBINED CONFERENCE, I WAS COUNCIL BUT OGRA IS USUALLY ONE OF THOSE ONES THAT'S JUST FILLED WITH ROAD EQUIPMENT AND SIDEWALK SWEEPERS AND NEW INNOVATIVE IDEAS FOR HOW TO PUT IN CULVERTS AND THOSE TYPES OF DEALS. SO I'M NOT NOT SURE WHERE COUNCIL STANDS ON THIS. I DO THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO SEND MR. HALLOCH OR ONE OF HIS SENIORS TO THE CONFERENCE, MR. GAGNON. YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THE FOCUS IS MORE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE TYPE, BUT THERE IS THERE ARE DELEGATIONS WITH CABINET MINISTERS AVAILABLE AT THAT CONFERENCE. THE QUESTION IS COUNCIL, DO YOU WISH TO ASK FOR MORE DELEGATIONS THERE? AND THERE'S A QUESTION THAT IN-PERSON IS BETTER THAN VIRTUAL, BUT IS IT WORTH THE COST OF TRAVEL AND ACCOMMODATION AND THE CONFERENCE FEE IN ORDER TO GET A 15 MINUTE DELEGATION? ON THE PLUS SIDE THERE'S A PROVINCIAL ELECTION THIS YEAR, SO WE HAVE FOUND THAT THE PROVINCIAL MEMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE KEEN TO TALK TO US. HOWEVER, IT IS COSTLY AS OPPOSED TO A VIRTUAL ONE WHERE YOU CAN DO THE VIRTUAL STAY HOME. REPRESENTATION FROM COUNCIL AT THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN AUGUST IN OTTAWA AND ALLOW MR. HALLOCH OR DESIGNATE TO ATTEND THE OGRA ON OUR BEHALF. THAT WOULD BE MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE, BUT I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO COUNCIL ON 11.1 IS THERE ANY RECOMMENDATION? COUNCILLOR PATRIE A QUESTION OR RECOMMENDATION. I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE SEND THE MAYOR, TWO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AS WELL AS THE CAO AND OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS TO THE ONTARIO GOOD ROADS. THIS IS VERY IMPERATIVE TO HAVE THE FACE TO FACE TIME WITH THE MINISTERS, ESPECIALLY IN AN ELECTION YEAR. IT'S BEEN TRADITIONAL THAT WE'VE DONE THIS. YES, WE DO DO MUCH BETTER RECEIVING GRANTS WHEN YOU SIT IN FRONT OF THEM. IF WE DON'T ATTEND THEN WE'RE JUST A PIECE OF PAPER SITTING ON THEIR DESK, SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR GRANT MONEY, WE SHOULD BE VERY WELL PREPARED AND ATTEND THIS CONFERENCE, AS WELL AS THE AMO CONFERENCE IN THE FALL WITH A DELEGATION TO MEET WITH MINISTERS. SO COUNCILLOR PATRIE, DID YOU WANT TO PUT FORWARD A MOTION? MAYOR, TWO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, CAO ATTEND THE OGRA CONFERENCE. [01:50:04] WITH OGRA, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INCLUDE OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, IF HE'S AVAILABLE. IS THERE A SECONDER FOR THAT MOTION? SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. I KNOW IT MAY APPEAR THAT IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT WE HAVE SAVED QUITE A BIT OF MONEY THESE LAST TWO YEARS, NOT GOING. SO WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT OVER BUDGETED AND I DO AGREE THAT WE HAVE SO MANY HANDS IN THE FIRE RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS GRANTS AND APPLICATIONS THAT I WOULDN'T WANT ANYONE TO THINK THAT WE'RE NOT INTERESTED OR WE'RE MAD ENOUGH THAT WE'RE NOT GOING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MR. HALLOCH TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE, YOU KNOW, THAT IF THERE'S ANY OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS HE'S WORKING ON THAT HE'S TRYING TO GET GRANTS FOR WHILE HE'S THERE AS WELL TO MAYBE THOSE BE THE MINISTRIES THAT WE SEEK OUT TO HAVE DELEGATIONS WITH, I'M NOT SURE WE NEED MAYOR, TWO COUNCILORS, CAO AND MR. HALLOCH OUT OF TOWN ALL AT ONCE, BUT IF THAT'S WHAT THE WILL OF COUNCIL IS, I'M OK WITH THAT, BUT AT LEAST AT LEAST THE MAYOR AND A COUNCILLOR OR COUNCILLOR AND THE CAO AND MR. HALLOCH AT LEAST TO HAVE AT LEAST THREE BODIES SITTING AT THE TABLE WITH THE MINISTRY DELEGATION, BUT I DO THINK IT'S A MISSED OPPORTUNITY SEEING AS IT IS AN ELECTION YEAR AND WE MIGHT ACTUALLY GET MINISTERS, MAYBE AT THE TABLE INSTEAD OF THEIR STAFFERS, BUT I THINK THAT FOR THE IN-PERSON ONE IN OTTAWA, THAT WE SHOULD SEND A LARGER CONTINGENT THERE TO THE TO THE IN PERSON IN OTTAWA. HOPEFULLY THINGS WILL BE OPENED UP AND WE GET TO OTTAWA, BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT IT'S A MISSED OPPORTUNITY IF WE DON'T SEND SOMEONE TO MEET WITH THE MINISTERS SEEING AS WE HAVE SO MANY GRANTS AND FUNDING APPLICATIONS IN, EVEN IF IT I WOULD BE, I WOULD BE FINE WITH MR. ANTUNES AND MR. HALLOCH AND THE CAO AND ONE COUNCILLOR OR THE MAYOR TO GO AS WELL. MR. GAGNON, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? NOT REALLY, JUST, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, YEAH, IN THE SENSE THAT WE DON'T NEED COUNCIL'S PERMISSION NECESSARILY TO SEND STAFF TO PROFESSIONAL CONFERENCES. YOU KNOW, SO IT'S REALLY COMES DOWN TO HOW MANY COUNCILLORS, IF COUNCIL WISHES TO HAVE A PHYSICAL PRESENCE AT THIS CONFERENCE FOR DELEGATIONS, THEN IT'S UP TO COUNCIL OF COURSE, HOW MANY COUNCILLORS YOU WANT TO SEND OR WHATNOT, BUT WE CAN WE CAN MAKE THE REST WORK AT OUR DISCRETION. IT'S JUST UP TO COUNCIL. OK, THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR TURNER. THANKS, YOUR WORSHIP. FULLY IN FAVOR OF SENDING COUCILLORS TO ALL THE CONFERENCES THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND. THE RECENT ROMA CONFERENCE, WE HAD CONTACT WITH MINISTERS THERE, AND I DON'T SEE US BENEFITING BY AVOIDING OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK WITH MINISTERS, YOU HAVE TO STAY IN THEIR FACE, BECAUSE BASICALLY IF YOU DON'T ASK, YOU DON'T GET. SO LET'S GET ON IT ATTEND, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. IT'S REALLY NOT THAT EXPENSIVE TO ATTEND THESE CONFERENCES. IT'S JUST NOT THAT EXPENSIVE. IT'S WORTH EVERY PENNY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ONE. RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE TABLE. MS. BRAY WOULD READ THAT, PLEASE. YOUR WORSHIP, THAT THE MAYOR, TWO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THE CAO AND THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, ATTEND THE 2022 OGRA CONFERENCE TO REPRESENT THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE. THANK YOU. ROLL CALL STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR TURNER. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR MANN. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. IN FAVOR, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR CYR. SURE IF HE'S STILL THERE. OK. I'M IN FAVOR ALSO THAT'S CARRIED, I'D ASK MS. BRAY. MAYBE I'LL MEET WITH YOU TOMORROW. WE HAD ORIGINALLY BEEN DOING ROUND ROBIN MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FOR CONFERENCES, AND I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE ON, IN ALL FAIRNESS, TO KEEP THAT ROUND ROBIN GOING, MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO ROTATE THROUGH. [01:55:01] 11.2 SAME THING LOOKING AT THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE REPRESENTATION AT THE 2022 TWO FOR THE CONFERENCE. THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET THAT FACE TO FACE. TIME WITH INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THE VARIOUS MINISTRIES DIFFERENT. LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION FROM COUNCIL FOR THIS ONE. RECOMMENDATION COUNCILLOR TURNER. AGAIN, CONFERENCES ARE ALWAYS TO OUR BENEFIT IF WE ATTEND THE SESSIONS, SPEAK WITH COUNTERPARTS IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, STEAL EVERY GOOD IDEA WE CAN GET OUR HANDS ON. COME BACK. IT'S ALL TO THE BENEFIT OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO YES, LET'S HAVE REPRESENTATIVES UP THERE LEARN WHAT WE CAN BRING IT ON. ARE YOU WILLING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR REPRESENTATION, COUNCILLOR TURNER? I'D SEND AS MANY COUNCILLORS AS YOU COULD DO THESE CONFERENCES. I THINK THE STANDARD IS TWO AND THE MAYOR, CAO, SO I'LL STICK WITH THAT. IS THERE A SECONDER FOR THAT. SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE. COUNCILLOR MANN, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? JUST A COMMENT, YOUR WORSHIP, TYPICALLY [INAUDIBLE], I THINK BECAUSE OF THE SCALE OF IT, I'D ONLY RECOMMEND SENDING ONE, BUT IT'S AGAIN, IF THERE'S TWO ABLE TO ATTEND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SET A, YOU KNOW, A MAYBE A COMPROMISE OF AN UPSET LIMIT OF TWO INDIVIDUALS, BUT AT LEAST IF ONE COULD ATTEND AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S A REGIONAL FORUM OR FOR NORTHERN ONTARIO AS OPPOSED TO CONFIRMING TWO. THAT WAS MY ONLY COMMENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. I WOULD ACCEPT THAT AS TWO [INAUDIBLE] THREE, AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE MEMBERS OF THIS MUNICIPALITY THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO GO THROUGH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS ADSAB AND APH AND SO FORTH. THERE ARE OTHER MEMBERS THAT CAN ATTEND AND BRING REPORTS BACK ON BEHALF OF OUR MUNICIPALITY, SO WE CAN USUALLY GET ADDITIONAL PEOPLE ATTENDING THESE CONFERENCES. SO I WOULD CONSIDER TWO PEOPLE. I'M NOT DESIGNATING WHO THOSE TWO PEOPLE ARE, BUT APPROVING, FINANCIALLY, FOR TWO PEOPLE. ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT, COUNCILLOR TURNER? IS THAT TWO COUNCILORS AND THE MAYOR? I THINK JUST TWO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL IS WHAT COUNCILLOR PATRIE WAS LOOKING AT. I'M STICKING WITH WHAT I HAD: TWO AND THE MAYOR. PEOPLE LIKE TO TALK TO THE MAYOR. THERE'S NO EXPLANATION FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT GOOD WORD OUT, COUNCILLOR TURNER. ARE YOU STILL OK WITH THE SECONDING OF THE MOTION COUNCILLOR PATRIE? YEAH, I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THE COUNCIL IF WE SEND TWO OR THREE. I IMAGINE COUNCILLOR MANN PROBABLY BE ATTENDING ON BEHALF OF ADSAB OR DESIGNATE. I'M GOING TO BE BLUNT AND HONEST WITH YOU, I LOVE FONOM AND THEY'RE VOICE FOR NORTHERN ONTARIO MUNICIPALITIES, BUT THROUGH THE YEARS OF ATTENDING THIS CONFERENCE, I'VE HAD REALLY EXCELLENT CONFERENCES AND I'VE HAD OTHER CONFERENCES WHERE I JUST GO, OH MY GOD, WHAT AM I DOING HERE? AND SO I'M HOPING AFTER TWO YEARS OF NOT SEEING A CONFERENCE THAT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, OH MY GOD, THIS IS AWESOME. I'M SO GLAD I'M HERE, BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN HIT OR MISS OVER THE YEARS, SO I REALLY HOPE THAT THIS IS VALUABLE AND THAT [INAUDIBLE] ABLE TO SCHMOOZE WE'LL SAY WITH VARIOUS MINISTERS THAT ARE THERE, EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T GET THAT INDIVIDUAL TIME. IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS ABOUT THIS CONFERENCE? [INAUDIBLE] OFF TO THE BIG CITY OF NORTH BAY, I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THAT'S CARRIED. 11.3 MEMO OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CAO CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE REPRESENTATION AT THE 2022 AMO CONFERENCE. [02:00:02] AGAIN, I'D BE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL TO PUT FORWARD A MOTION FOR THE ATTENDANCE AT AMO. THIS IS DEFINITELY THE LARGEST CONFERENCE IN ONTARIO AND THE LARGEST OPPORTUNITY FOR SPENDING TIME WITH DIFFERENT MINISTRIES. COUNCILLOR TURNER. YEAH. I'LL GO BACK TO WHAT I SAID ALREADY, AND THIS IS THE BIG CONFERENCE, THE MOST IMPORTANT, ONE OF THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CONTACTS, LEARN THINGS AND BRING IT HOME AND GET IN FRONT OF THE MINISTERS AND SO, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF ALLOWING ANY MEMBER OF COUNCILLOR WANTS TO GO TO GO, AND THAT WE ORGANIZE AS EFFICIENTLY AS WE CAN TO GET IN FRONT OF THE MINISTERS WE NEED TO, AND STATE OUR CASES, PLUS THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN IN THOSE CONFERENCES WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT BREAKOUT SESSIONS, SO IT'S TOTALLY TO THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION AS FAR AS NUMBERS? THIS ONE, I WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND MINIMUM MAYOR, TWO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AND THE CAO , AND BEING THIS THIS YEAR, WE MAY WANT TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF COUNCILLORS. THAT'S WHY I'M PUTTING IT UP TO UP TO YOU, COUNCIL AS FAR AS DIRECTION ON THIS ONE. I'LL STICK WITH WHAT I SAID. ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL WHO WANTS TO GO, GO. IS THERE A SECONDER FOR THAT MOTION? SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. DISCUSSION ON THE POTENTIAL--I DON'T THINK CONFERENCES DON'T APPLY TO THE MUNICIPAL ACT AND HAVING [INAUDIBLE] COUNCIL BECAUSE WE'RE THERE FOR LEARNING, TRAINING AND MEETING WITH MINISTERS, WE'RE NOT THERE TO CONDUCT COUNCIL MEETINGS. THERE TO HOPEFULLY COME HOME WITH BASKETS OF PROMISED MONEY FOR THE MUNICIPALITY. SO I DON'T HAVE A HUGE ISSUE WITH THAT. ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILLOR PATRIE. WE LOST YOU, COUNCILLOR PATRIE. WE'RE GETTING A BIT OF SIGN LANGUAGE. [INAUDIBLE] STUFF POPPING UP. I GOT THE ZOOM INVITE [INAUDIBLE] AND THEN SCREWS UP MY IPAD. I AGREE. SO IF COUNCILLOR TURNER'S MOTION IS APPROVE AN UPSET LIMIT OF ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND THE CAO BASED ON AVAILABILITY, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. IT IS VERY FAR AWAY, AND AGAIN, YEARS PAST, WE USED TO HAVE ALMOST FIVE OR SIX MEMBERS PRESENT AT SOME OF THESE CONFERENCES, ESPECIALLY GET FACE TIME IN FRONT OF MINISTERS, WHEN WE'RE ASKING FOR HARD MONEY. SO WE CAN DO IT AS AN UPSET LIMIT, NOT NECESSARILY, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THAT MONEY, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE WORDING OF WHAT COUNCILLOR TURNER WANTED TO USE. MS. BRAY? IF I COULD JUST READ WHAT'S PREPARED, THAT THE MAYOR, ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WHO ARE AVAILABLE AND THE CAO ATTEND THE 2022 A.M. CONFERENCE TO REPRESENT THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE. THAT WORKS. COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, I DO APPRECIATE COUNCILLOR TURNER'S COMMENTS, HOWEVER, SENDING ALL OF COUNCIL POTENTIALLY TO OTTAWA FOR THAT CONFERENCE IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. I THINK THERE IS A COST. YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF OUR POINT OF VIEW, THERE ARE EXPENSES ASSOCIATED. I HAVE NO ISSUE SENDING THREE COUNCILORS AND STAFF AND THE MAYOR, WHICH WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, WHICH IS FOR WHICH IS JUST OVER THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL. I THINK THE ADDITIONAL THREE, BUT AGAIN, IT IS SUMMER. THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONFLICTS AS WELL, BUT I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE TOO EXCESSIVE REGARDLESS OF THE POTENTIAL ASKS. THANK YOU. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, COUNCILLOR MANN, I THINK IN THIS SCENARIO DURING THE TIME OF YEAR, I THINK UNFORTUNATELY THERE'LL BE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WHO WON'T BE ABLE TO ATTEND. SO LEAVING IT OPEN TO THOSE WHO WISH TO ATTEND MIGHT JUST MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE SMOOTH, ENSURING WE HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT THERE BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE PAST IT'S ACTUALLY [02:05:05] BEEN DIFFICULT EVEN FINDING THREE FOR THE SUMMERTIME CONFERENCE THAT AREN'T IN CONFLICT IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, UNABLE TO ATTEND. SO THE WAY IT'S WORDED LEAVES IT OPEN TO THOSE WHO ARE ABLE, AND PRIOR TO THAT, WE'LL HAVE TO COORDINATE OUR EFFORTS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? ROLL CALL VOTE AGAIN, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR TURNER. THAT'S DEFEATED, SO I'D ASK IF THERE'S ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION FOR THE ATTENDANCE AT THE AMO CONFERENCE. COUNCILLOR MANN? YOUR WORSHIP, I WOULD MOVE AN UPSET LIMIT OF TWO COUNCILORS, CAO AND THE MAYOR, TO ATTEND THE 2022 AMO CONFERENCE. OKAY, IS THERE A SECONDER FOR THAT? SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE. ANY ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION ON THIS ONE? COUNCILLOR PATRIE. ONE COMMENT, YOUR WORSHIP. MUST REMEMBER, WE SHOULD KEEP SOMEBODY HERE IN CHARGE OF THE CITY, SHOULD WE HAVE ANOTHER, HOPEFULLY NOT, EMERGENCY WITHIN OUR MUNICIPALITY. SO WE'LL LEAVE COUNCILLOR CYR IN CHARGE WHILE THE REST OF US GO. I'M JUST KIDDING. [CHUCKLING] OK, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I'LL START ROLL CALL VOTE, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THAT'S CARRIED. GOING TO COORDINATE WITH THE CLERK TO TRY AND MAKE THIS WORK OUT WITH THE BEST REPRESENTATION. 11.4, REQUEST FOR A MOTION SUPPORT TO DISSOLVE THE ONTARIO LAND TRIBUNAL, [INAUDIBLE] READ THE LETTERS COMING FROM MAYOR OF TOWN OF AURORA, REQUESTING SUPPORT FOR THE FOLLOWING MOTION WHICH STATES, WHEREAS MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THE PROVINCE COLLECTIVELY SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER MONEY AND MUNICIPAL RESOURCES DEVELOPING OFFICIAL PLANS THAT MEET CURRENT PROVINCIAL PLANNING POLICY. WHEREAS AN OFFICIAL PLAN IS DEVELOPED THROUGH MONTHS OF PUBLIC CONSULTATION TO ENSURE THAT FUTURE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT WILL MEET THE SPECIFIC NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND WHEREAS OUR OFFICIAL PLAN INCLUDES ZONING PROVISIONS THAT ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MISSING MIDDLE OR GENTLE DENSITY TO MEET THE NEED FOR ATTAINABLE HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY. WHEREAS OUR OFFICIAL PLAN IS ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY THE PROVINCE AND WHEREAS IT IS WITHIN THE LEGISLATIVE PURVIEW OF MUNICIPAL COUNCIL TO APPROVE OFFICIAL PLANNED AMENDMENTS [INAUDIBLE] ZONING BYLAW CHANGES [INAUDIBLE] THAT BETTER THE COMMUNITY OR FIT WITHIN THE VISION OF THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE OFFICIAL PLAN, AND WHEREAS IT IS ALSO WITHIN THE LEGISLATIVE PURVIEW OF MUNICIPAL COUNCIL TO DENY OFFICIAL PLAN AMENDMENTS OR ZONING BYLAW CHANGES THAT DO NOT BETTER THE COMMUNITY OR DO NOT FIT WITHIN THE VISION OF THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE OFFICIAL PLAN, AND WHEREAS MUNICIPAL PLANNING DECISION MAY BE APPEALED BY THE ONTARIO LAND TRIBUNAL, FORMERLY THE ONTARIO MUNICIPAL BOARD AND AN UNELECTED APPOINTED BODY THAT IS NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE. WHEREAS THE ONTARIO LAND TRIBUNAL HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE FINAL DECISION ON PLANNING MATTERS BASED ON A BEST PLANNING OUTCOME AND NOT WHETHER THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH MUNICIPAL OFFICIAL PLANS, THE PROVINCIAL PLANNING POLICY. WHEREAS ALL DECISIONS SAY PLANNING DECISIONS MADE BY MUNICIPAL COUNCIL ARE ONLY SUBJECT TO APPEAL BY JUDICIAL REVIEW AND SUCH APPEALS ARE LIMITED TO QUESTIONS OF LAW AND OR PROCESS. WHEREAS ONTARIO IS THE ONLY PROVINCE IN CANADA THAT EMPOWERS SEPARATE ADJUDICATIVE TRIBUNAL TO REVIEW AND OVERRULE LOCAL DECISIONS, APPLYING PROVINCIALLY APPROVED PLANS, AND WHEREAS TOWNS AND CITIES ACROSS THIS PROVINCE ARE REPEATEDLY FORCED TO SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS DEFENDING OFFICIAL PLANS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE PROVINCE IN EXPENSIVE, TIME CONSUMING AND ULTIMATELY FUTILE OLT HEARINGS, AND WHEREAS LENGTHY, COSTLY OLT HEARINGS ACT AS A BARRIER TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF ATTAINABLE HOUSING. [02:10:06] NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED THAT THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE REQUEST THE GOVERNMENT OF ONTARIO TO DISSOLVE THE OLT IMMEDIATELY, THEREBY ELIMINATING ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT SOURCES OF RED TAPE, DELAYING THE DEVELOPMENT OF MORE ATTAINABLE HOUSING IN ONTARIO. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT A COPY OF THIS MOTION BE SENT TO THE HONORABLE DOUG FORD, PREMIER OF ONTARIO, MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND HOUSING, THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION, THE LEADERS OF THE LIBERAL AND GREEN PARTY, ALL MPPS [INAUDIBLE] THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO. THE LARGE URBAN MAYORS CAUCUS OF ONTARIO, THE SMALL URBAN MAYORS AND REGIONAL CHAIRS OF ONTARIO, AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT A COPY OF THIS MOTION BE SENT TO THE ASSOCIATION MUNICIPALITIES OF ONTARIO, AND ALL ONTARIO MUNICIPALITIES FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION. CAN I HAVE A MOVER? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE SECOND BY COUNCILLOR CYR. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF MOTION RIGHT THERE. [INAUDIBLE] AN INTERESTING TIME, COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD TAKE IT AWAY, IT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT IF COUNCILLOR MAKES A DECISION THAT IS UNJUST OR UNFAIR, THAT THE PROPONENT HAS NO RECOURSE, I THINK THAT THE TRIBUNAL SHOULD STAND IF PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO APPEAL. YOU COULD HAVE A COUNCIL THAT IN A SMALL COMMUNITY THAT'S NOT A COUNCIL OF FIVE OR THREE THAT SAYS, NO, WE DON'T LIKE BILLY THORNTON. HE CAN'T DO THAT. SO JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE THEM, WE'RE GOING TO OPPOSE IT AND THERE'S NO WAY TO REFUTE IT. I THINK THE LAND TRIBUNAL HAS TO STAY THERE JUST TO BE FAIR AND JUST. WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT ISSUE IN OUR MUNICIPALITY, BUT IF WE ALL GET ON BOARD, I JUST I CANNOT AGREE WITH THIS, SO I'M OPPOSED TO REMOVING IT. FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OK, I THINK THE MOTION IS PRETTY, PRETTY CLEAR. I THINK WE ARE HEADING INTO AN AREA WHERE WE MAY SEE COUNCILS HAVE BEEN ELECTED BY THE MUNICIPALITY, BY OUR RESIDENTS TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS AND FOLLOWING OUR OWN OFFICIAL PLANS. AND WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING ON RIGHT [INAUDIBLE] THE MUNICIPALITIES WHERE INDIVIDUALS DON'T LIKE THE DECISION OF A COUNCIL AND THEY CAN GO TO A TRIBUNAL AND HAVE IT OVERTURNED AND THEREFORE ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THE COMMUNITY REALLY HAVE NO SAY OVER DEVELOPMENT IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY. I THINK THERE LIES THE ISSUE. YOU HAVE A GROUP OF UNELECTED OFFICIALS IN SOUTHERN ONTARIO MAKING DECISIONS FOR YOUR MUNICIPALITY, FOR YOU WITHOUT KNOWING THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND I THINK IT'S AN ISSUE THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH ALSO. THAT BEING SAID, UP TO COUNCIL, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS/COMMENTS, I WILL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE AND STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR TURNER. THAT'S DEFEATED. THERE IS NO NOTICE OF MOTION THIS EVENING. COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS, I BELIEVE IS VERY SHORT. [13. COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS] TWO PROCLAMATIONS. FIRST PROCLAMATION. BLACK HISTORY MONTH PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS BLACK HISTORY MONTH IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND HONOR THE HISTORICAL PRESENT CONTRIBUTIONS OF BLACK CANADIANS AND RECOGNIZE THEIR SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS MADE TO CANADA. WHEREAS DURING BLACK HISTORY MONTH, WE CELEBRATE THE MANY ACHIEVEMENTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY BLACK CANADIANS TO OUR COLLECTIVE ECONOMIC, CULTURAL, SPIRITUAL AND POLITICAL DEVELOPMENT, AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE RECOGNIZES THE VALUES, SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS AND ADVANCES THAT BLACK CANADIANS HAVE MADE AND CONTINUE TO MAKE TO CANADIAN SOCIETY. WHEREAS THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, RECOGNIZING THEME FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH [INAUDIBLE] FEBRUARY OF [INAUDIBLE] CELEBRATING BLACK HISTORY TODAY AND EVERY DAY NOW, THEREFORE I, MAYOR, DAN MARCHISELLA DO HEREBY PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 2022 AS BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO CELEBRATE OUR DIVERSE HERITAGE AND [02:15:03] CULTURE AND CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS TO MAKE ELLIOT LAKE A WELCOMING COMMUNITY FOR ALL. PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS GOVERNMENT AT ALL LEVELS APPRECIATE OUR NONPROFIT SECTOR AND THANK THEM FOR THEIR HARD WORK. WHEREAS THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE UNDERSTANDS THAT WITH THE PANDEMIC, IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT TO HOLD FUNDRAISING EVENTS. WHEREAS THE ONTARIO GOVERNMENT HAS CONTRIBUTED WELL OVER FIVE BILLION TO NONPROFIT SECTOR WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEM. WHEREAS THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, ENCOURAGES THE COMMUNITY TO THANK AND SHOW THEIR APPRECIATION BY CONTINUING THEIR FINANCIAL SUPPORT OF THE NONPROFIT SECTOR. WHEREAS ONTARIO'S NONPROFIT SECTOR IS THE LARGEST IN CANADA, INCLUDES OVER FIFTY EIGHT THOUSAND REGISTERED CHARITIES AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITIES IN SO MANY WAYS, DELIVERING PROGRAMS THAT IMPROVE OUR COLLECTIVE QUALITY OF LIFE. WHEREAS WE CELEBRATE THE DIVERSITY OF ONTARIO'S NONPROFIT SECTOR FOR MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, SENIORS SERVICES, HOMELESS SHELTERS, CRISIS LINE SKILLS DEVELOPMENT, IMMIGRANT SUPPORT, SPECIALIZED HELP FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILY SUPPORT SERVICES TO PROGRAMS THAT ARTS AND CULTURE, ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY AND RECREATION, AND WHEREAS THE HEROIC WORK DONE BY NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION ALSO GOES UNNOTICED, IT SHOULD BE ACKNOWLEDGED AS THE SECTOR'S CRUCIAL [INAUDIBLE] SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. BY AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME, BY THE COUNCIL OF THE CORPORATION OF THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, I HEREBY PROCLAIM THE PERIOD FEBRUARY 14 TO FEBRUARY 18 TO 2022 AS NONPROFIT APPRECIATION WEEK IN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE. OK, BEFORE I HIT THE BIG TICKET ITEMS, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU, I'M NOT SURE IF COUNCILLOR PEARCE WAS GOING TO ANNOUNCE THIS, BUT I TOLD MS. HENNESSEY THAT I WOULD THAT ON SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 19TH AT 2:00 P.M. AT CENTENNIAL ARENA, THE ELLIOT LAKE RED WINGS JUNIOR HOCKEY CLUB WILL BE HOSTING A SPECIAL EVENT AT THEIR HOCKEY GAME FOR CONGENITAL HEART DISEASE AND SUCH CONGENITAL HEART DISEASE AWARENESS GAME. THERE WILL BE CHD COOKIES FOR SALE, A DONATION BUCKET. THE TEAM WILL BE WEARING CHD JERSEYS, WHICH WILL BE AUCTIONED OFF DURING THE GAME. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO FILL OUT THE AUCTION SHEET AT THE GAME OR CALL YOUR BID IN TO 705 885 0199. IF YOU WANT TO BID ON YOUR PLAYER'S JERSEY FOR FRIENDS, FAMILY NOT AT THE GAMES. STARTING BID WILL BE $100. WE HAVE CHILDREN IN ELLIOT LAKE AND SURROUNDING AREAS WHO HAVE CONGENITAL HEART DISEASE AND THE NORTH SHORE CRUISERS HAVE SUPPORTED THEM, ELIMINATING SOME OF THE FINANCIAL STRAIN SO THEY CAN FOCUS ON WHAT MATTERS. FOR OVER 30 YEARS, THE NORTH SHORE CRUISERS HAVE BEEN HELPING FAMILIES NOT JUST WITH CONGENITAL HEART DISEASE, BUT ALL CHILDHOOD INJURY, ILLNESS AND DISABILITIES BY HELPING COVER THE COST OF MEDICAL CARE NOT COVERED BY PRIVATE INSURANCE OR OTHER GROUPS. THE NORTH SHORE CRUISERS OF ASSISTED FAMILIES PURCHASING WHEELCHAIRS, BUILDING RAMPS, SPECIAL EQUIPMENT LOCATOR BRACELETS FOR SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN THROUGH PROJECT LIFESAVER, THE NORTH SHORE CRUISERS WILL PROVIDE TRAVEL GRANTS FOR FAMILIES OF CHILDREN THAT ARE REQUIRED TO TRAVEL TO SICKKIDS TO, LONDON AND MCMASTERS CHILDREN'S HOSPITALS AND ACCOMMODATIONS. THEY ARE PARTNERS IN PURCHASING AND CONSTRUCTION OF INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AT WEST VIEW PARK AND ARE CURRENTLY RAISING FUNDS FOR MORE INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT FOR OTHER PARKS IN THE NORTH SHORE. ALL PROCEEDS FROM THIS GAME WILL GO DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH STAR CRUISERS SICKKIDS FUND. THEY WILL BE ON SITE TO COLLECT DONATIONS. LET'S ALL BAND TOGETHER AND HELP THEM RAISE FUNDS SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DO WHAT THEY DO BEST HELP FAMILIES GET BETTER TOGETHER. CONGENITAL HEART DISEASE IS ONE OR MORE PROBLEMS WITH THE HEART THAT IS PRESENT AT BIRTH. THIS AFFECTS 1 IN 100 CHILDREN AND IS 60 TIMES MORE PREVALENT THAN ALL CHILDREN CANCERS COMBINED. FOR EVERY DOLLAR RAISED FOR HEART DISEASE RESEARCH, LESS THAN A PENNY IS ALLOTTED TO CONGENITAL HEART DISEASE. THERE IS NO CURE FOR CONGENITAL HEART DISEASE. IT IS A LIFETIME LIFELONG DISEASE, WITH MANY REQUIRING HEART TRANSPLANTS OR MULTIPLE SURGERIES. TWENTY FIVE PERCENT WILL REQUIRE AT LEAST ONE INVASIVE SURGERY IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THEIR LIFE. FOR ANYONE WHO CANNOT BE AT THE GAME BUT STILL WISHES TO DONATE, THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS YOU CAN DO THIS. YOU CAN CONTACT JESSE AT 705 849 6848 AND SHE CAN TELL YOU HOW YOU CAN BECOME INVOLVED. I WANT TO THANK THE RED WINGS AND THE NORTH SHORE CRUISERS FOR STEPPING UP TO THE GAME. YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS ALL VERY CLOSE AND DEAR TO MRS. HENNESSEY AS HER GRANDSON IS ONE OF THE VICTIMS OF THIS HORRIFIC, HORRIBLE DISEASE, AND [02:20:02] SO WE ASK THAT EVERYONE HELP SUPPORT THE NORTH SHORE CRUISERS. IT IS INTERESTING THAT THIS IS THE PROCLAMATION THAT YOU READ. ALL NON-PROFITS HAVE REALLY SUFFERED DURING THE PANDEMIC AND NOT BEING ABLE TO RAISE FUNDS, AND THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT REALLY BENEFITS A LOT OF FAMILIES IN ELLIOT LAKE, SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN ALL SHOW THEM THEIR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR THIS EVENING'S COUNCIL ANNOUNCEMENTS? SEEING NONE, I'LL GET INTO OUR BIG TICKET ITEMS. THE BIG TICKET ITEM FOR FEBRUARY 3RD, 2022. MINISTER OF FINANCE, MUNICIPAL POLICE AND CONTRACT, TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED. RECEIVER GENERAL FOR CANADA, SEVENTY SEVEN THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED [INAUDIBLE] CONSTRUCTION, A LANDFILL SITE CONTRACT, FORTY THREE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED HYDRO ONE NETWORKS FORTY THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED [INAUDIBLE] FORTY FOUR THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED PERFORMANCE CONCEPTS CONSULTING [INAUDIBLE] JOINT MMP, SERVICE SHARING ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED. [INAUDIBLE] ENGINEERING HILLSIDE RECONSTRUCTION, DUNLOP SHORES CULVERT WELLNESS CENTER, TWENTY NINE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED WENDELL FARQUHAR TRUCKING DUNLOP SHORES CULVERT DUNLOP SHORES PLOWING TWENTY THREE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED. THOSE ARE BIG TICKET ITEMS. FOURTEEN, MAY I HAVE A MOVER AND A SECONDER TO ADD THE ADDENDUM TO THIS EVENING'S AGENDA ? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR CYR. SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER. QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE. JUST ONE COMMENT, YOUR WORSHIP. THESE ITEMS WERE DEALT WITH [INAUDIBLE] COMMITTEE, AND I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY TENTATIVELY PUT ON THE AGENDA BY STAFF, I GET IT THAT ONE OF THESE MEETINGS WAS AFTER THE DEADLINE, IT WAS POSTPONED, BUT I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED THAT THESE--I DON'T LIKE ADDENDUMS BECAUSE THE PUBLIC DON'T KNOW THAT THIS ADDENDUM IS COMING TO THE FORUM, AND I WOULD PREFER THAT FROM NOW ON, IF IT'S IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A COMMITTEE MEETING CLOSE TO THE DEADLINE THAT. THESE ITEMS GET TENTATIVELY PUT ONTO THE AGENDA AND CAN BE STRICKEN IF THEY'RE DEFEATED [INAUDIBLE] COMMITTEE. I HAVE NO SAY AT ANY COMMITTEE, SO. JUST FOR COUNCIL'S AWARENESS, THIS MEETING ACTUALLY TOOK PLACE THURSDAY EVENING, NOT THE REGULAR MONDAY OR TUESDAY EVENING. WASN'T ABLE TO MEET UNTIL THURSDAY DUE TO QUORUM ISSUES, SO BEING THE REASON WHY IT CAME IN AFTER THE FACT. MS. BRAY? THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP JUST FOR COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THE ADDENDUMS ALSO POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND SENT OUT TO ANYONE WHO SUBSCRIBES SO THEY ALL GET A COPY OF THE ADDENDUM, THE PUBLIC. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. THE ISSUE IS WE GOT THAT ADDENDUM TODAY, SO THE PUBLIC WOULD ONLY SEE IT TODAY. THEREFORE, I JUST PREFER THAT IF WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING ON TO A COMMITTEE MEETING, THAT'S POTENTIALLY GOING TO HIT THE. COUNCIL MEETING, AT LEAST IT GOES ONTO THE AGENDA. IT MAY NOT HAVE THE REPORTS, BUT AT LEAST THE HEADLINE CAN BE THERE JUST SO THAT WE'RE ALL APPRIZED, AND THE PUBLIC IS ALL APPRIZED OF THE POTENTIAL INSTEAD OF IT BEING AN ADDENDUM AT THE LAST MINUTE. SO IT'S BEEN MOVED. HAS IT BEEN SECONDED? YES. OK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, QUALMS, CONCERNS? SEEING NONE. CALL FOR A ROLL CALL. OK, 14.1, A REFERRAL FROM THE BYLAW AND PLANNING COMMITTEE MEMO FROM THE MANAGER OF [14. ADDENDUM] ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OVERNIGHT COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT 22-33 OAKLAND BOULEVARD. THIS IS COUNCILLOR PEARCE'S COMMITTEE, SO COUNCILLOR PEARCE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU. AT THE FEBRUARY 10TH MEETING OF THE BYLAW AND PLANNING COMMITTEE, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THAT THE MEMO FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT [INAUDIBLE] COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT 22-33 ON OAKLAND BOULEVARD BE RECEIVED AND THAT IT BE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL [02:25:02] FOR INFORMATION AND DISCUSSION, AND I SO MOVE. IS THERE A SECONDER? SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. WE'VE GOT TO TURN THAT OVER TO MR. ANTUNES. SOUNDS GOOD. THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE. TO SKIM THROUGH THIS AS MEMBERS OF COUNCIL GOT IT BEFORE, BUT AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, WE SOLD TWENTY TWO AND THIRTY THREE OAKLAND BOULEVARD AT THE CLOSE OF THE SALE. THE LOT WAS BEING USED AT NO COST TO THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES THAT WERE SPENDING TIME IN THE MUNICIPALITY. THESE WERE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE OWNERS WHO WERE COMING HOME TO THE MUNICIPALITY, NOT NECESSARILY A PARKING LOT FOR VISITORS OR TRUCKS COMING INTOWN. THEY PARK TO AVOID VIOLATION OF PARKING BYLAW THAT DOES NOT ALLOW COMMERCIAL VEHICLES TO PARK IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. AS THE LOT WAS SOLD AND IS NOW PRIVATE PROPERTY, LARGE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES ARE NO LONGER ABLE TO USE THE LOT. AT THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL, WHEN WE DID SPEAK OF SELLING THE LOT ORIGINALLY, STAFF DID RESEARCH SIMILAR LOCATIONS IN THE MUNICIPALITY. WE'VE BEEN UNABLE TO FIND A SUITABLE LOCATION. ONE OF THE BIG ONES OR TWO BIG OPTIONS THAT WERE AVAILABLE FOR US WAS THE AREA IN THE AIRPORT JUST NORTH OF THE AIRPORT, THE DIRT LOT AT THE BASE OR ON HIGHWAY ONE EIGHT. THE ISSUE THERE BEING ENTRANCE AND EXIT PRIMARILY EXIT FROM THE LOT BY COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. JUST GEOGRAPHY MAKES IT DIFFICULT HAVING TO EXIT THE LOT ONTO 108 AND SAFETY THEREIN. THE OTHER ONE THAT WOULD HAVE HOUSED SOME OF THE VEHICLES AS WELL WAS THE STAGING AREA FOR THE PINE-POPLAR PROJECT THAT WAS BY THE BALL DIAMOND CENTENNIAL ARENA. SOME OF THE ISSUES THERE ESSENTIALLY CAME DOWN TO COMPETITION FOR SPACE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS HOCKEY GAMES ON. IF ANY OF THE DRIVERS WERE ARRIVING DURING A HOCKEY GAME, THERE WOULD BE A VERY PACKED AND VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO NAVIGATE THE PARKING LOT AND AT ANY OTHER TIMES BY THE BASEBALL DIAMOND, JUST THE CHALLENGE WITH OTHER VEHICLES AND YOUTH RUNNING AROUND THE PARKING LOT AND MADE FOR A DANGEROUS SITUATION. SO FOR VARIOUS REASONS, THEY WERE NOT DEEMED SUITABLE AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE POPPED UP WERE IF THE CITY DOES MAINTAIN THESE LOTS, THERE IS STILL THE CONTINUED LIABILITY RISK FOR THE CITY, SO MAINTAINING THE LOT, THE CITY ACCEPTS LIABILITY FOR THE LOT TO BE PROPERLY CLEANED AND INSPECTED. THE PROVISION FOR FREE OVERFLOW PARKING ON [INAUDIBLE] PROPERTY TO COMMERCIAL VEHICLES IS NOT A FORMAL MUNICIPAL SERVICE. IT WAS INFORMALLY DONE FOR YEARS BECAUSE WE HAD THE LOT THERE AND IT WASN'T BEING USED, SO CERTAINLY ABLE TO SHARE IT WITH COMMERCIAL VEHICLE OWNERS IN THE MUNICIPALITY, BUT NOW, WITH THE LOSS OF THE LOT, IT MAKES CONTINUED OFFERING OF THIS THOUGHT IMPRACTICAL AND NOT ADVISABLE. ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS AS WELL CAME UP IN THE BYLAW AND PLANNING MEETING THAT THE PARKING DOES COMPETE WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PRIVATE SECTOR OWNERS TO OFFER PARKING AND CHARGE A LEGITIMATE COST FOR PARKING ON COMMERCIAL AREAS OR COMMERCIAL LOTS TO COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. SO I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE. THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES, AND LOOKING AT THE REPORT. THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AT THOSE TWO AREAS, AND I UNDERSTAND THE DANGERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE AIRPORT AREA NOW AS THERE'S AN INCLINE, AND SO ANY TYPE OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT OR RIG ACTUALLY REQUIRES, ESPECIALLY IN THE WINTER, TAKING A RUN AT THAT AND YOU'RE TAKING A RUN AT AN INCLINE ONTO THE HIGHWAY, SO DEFINITELY MAY NOT BE SAFE. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF ABILITY FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO OPEN UP AREAS, FOR RIGS, FOR PARKING, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S 6-8 INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE IN TOWN THAT DRIVE THEIR OWN RIGS, AND REALLY, ONE INDIVIDUAL I'VE SPOKEN TO HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR 30 YEARS--THAT'S HIS LIVELIHOOD--CHOOSES ELLIOT LAKE AS HIS HOME, BUT MIND YOU, HAS NOWHERE TO PARK HIS RIG MAY NEED TO RELOCATE IN ORDER TO KEEP HIS JOB, WHICH IS [INAUDIBLE]. I UNDERSTAND THAT PEARSON DRIVE HAS THE SNOW DUMP AREA, WHICH IS A RATHER LARGE AREA THAT MAY HAVE THE SUFFICIENT SPACE TO HOUSE THESE VEHICLES. AS FAR AS THE LIABILITY, IT'S VERY SIMPLE TO PUT UP SIGNAGE IN ANY LOCATION THAT'S CHOSEN [02:30:04] THAT SAYS USE AT YOUR OWN RISK OR EVEN GET THE INDIVIDUALS AND THE MEMBERS THAT HAVE THEIR VEHICLES TO SIGN A WAIVER REMOVING LIABILITY FROM THE MUNICIPALITY. I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYBODY HAVING TO MOVE OUT OF TOWN BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND A LOCATION FOR PARKING. THAT'S A BIG CONCERN. COUNCILLOR TURNER. YOU'RE MUTED, COUNCILLOR TURNER. THANK YOU. I'M OF A SIMILAR MIND ON THIS SUBJECT. I DON'T THINK THAT THE ISSUE OF LIABILITY PLAYS A HUGE ROLE HERE. YOU KNOW, WE BECOME SO RISK AVERSE THAT WE BECOME PARALYZED [INAUDIBLE] JUST [INAUDIBLE] PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. I WONDER ABOUT THE BOTTOM OF FOX DRIVE IN THAT BIG CIRCLE AREA WHERE THERE'S NOT ROOM FOR THREE OR FOUR TRUCKS BECAUSE I SELDOM SEE ANY MORE THAN THAT PARKED ON OAKLAND. I ALSO WONDER IF THE NEW BUYERS TO THE PROPERTY ON OAKLAND ARE IN A BIG RUSH TO GET THEM OUT OF THERE. I DOUBT THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY BUILDING GOING ON IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, SO, BOTTOM OF FOX DRIVE, AND I WONDER ABOUT THE OLD PEARSON CENTER PROPERTY. IT'S NOT THAT BIG A RAMP, GETTING BACK UP TO THE HIGHWAY, AND THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE THERE, AND I'M PRETTY MUCH ASSURED BY THIS MEETING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE USING IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE. COULD WE NOT CONSIDER OFFERING THEM THAT? I DON'T SEE US COMPETING WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR BECAUSE AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE'S NO COMMERCIAL PARKING LOTS IN TOWN. THEY'RE ALL OURS. THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. FIRST OFF, I'D HAVE BEEN OPPOSED TO THE SALE OF TWO LOTS IF WE WEREN'T GOING TO LOOK FOR SOMEWHERE IN THE MUNICIPALITY. I THINK THIS IS THE FOURTH RUN AT THIS DURING MY TENURE AS A MEMBER OF COUNCIL AND EVERY TIME WE'VE SOLD PROPERTY THAT WAS BEING USED FOR TRANSPORT, PARKING FOR OUT-OF-TOWN HAULERS THAT LIVE IN TOWN, WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CONTINGENT ON SELLING THOSE PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT. THE STAFF FIND A REPLACEMENT LOCATION. I DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME TODAY BY A VERY GOOD MAN, MR. REJEAN CYR, WHO BROUGHT ME SOME MAPS AND SAID THERE'S A COUPLE OF POSSIBILITIES THAT HE CAN THINK OF. ONE IS POTENTIALLY IF THE CITY DOES GET OUT OF IT, THAT HE POTENTIALLY DOES HAVE LAND JUST NORTH OF THE NORTH INDUSTRIAL SOUTH OF THE PIPELINE ROAD, BUT THEN YOU WOULD BE FORCING IT TO BE A COMMERCIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY. I, AS A COUNCILLOR, DON'T WANT TO DO THAT NOW IF MR. CYR WERE TO DO THAT AND OFFER IT FOR A FEE TO PEOPLE, THEN I WOULDN'T STOP HIM. I WOULD ABSOLUTELY, AS A BUSINESS MAN, APPRECIATE HIM DOING IT, BUT THE PREDICAMENT THAT I HAVE IS WE'VE SOLD THIS PIECE OF LAND WE ARE FORCING THESE TAXPAYERS TO VACATE. HE DID BRING A PROPOSAL, NOT A PROPOSAL, BUT AN IDEA TO ME WITH THE MAP THAT IN BEHIND ESSO IS THE OLD DUMP LOCATION, WHICH IS LEVEL LAND, WHICH IS HUNDREDS OF METERS AWAY FROM WHERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY PARKED. ALL THEY'VE GOT TO DO IS EITHER GO UP SKI HILL ROAD OR DEPENDING ON HOW THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY IS, WE MAY BE ABLE TO HAVE GRAVEL ACCESS BETWEEN THE ESSO AND THE OAKS PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE OWN THERE, BUT ONCE YOU GET IN BEHIND THE ESSO, THERE IS A BIG TRACT OF LAND THAT GOES FROM THE BACK OF THE ESSO OVER TO THE TOP OF THE HILL ON SKI HILL ROAD. THAT IS PROBABLY 20 TIMES THE SIZE OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING USED AS TRUCK PARKING. I CAN GLADLY BRING THIS IN TO STAFF. I JUST RECEIVED IT AND I SPOKE TO MR, ANTUNES THIS MORNING, AND LET THEM KNOW THAT MR. CYR WAS BRINGING ME THIS INFORMATION, BUT I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND [02:35:02] SPEAK TO THIM. I'M VERY ADAMANT THAT MY OPINION HASN'T CHANGED. I DO WANT STAFF TO FIND A SUITABLE LOCATION FOR THESE PEOPLE IN THIS INDUSTRY TO HAVE SOMEWHERE TO PARK IN THE MUNICIPALITY, AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR NOW. COUNCILLOR PEARCE? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU. A COMMENT FIRST, I THINK THE, AGAIN, THE PERCEPTION IN THE PUBLIC WAS THAT MR. ANTUNES WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LATE ANNOUNCEMENT ON THIS, AND IT WASN'T MR. ANTUNES FAULT, IT WAS COUNCIL'S FAULT, FRANKLY. WE AGREED TO THE SALE AND THAT'S HOW THESE THINGS HAPPEN. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD SPEND A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY PROVIDING FREE PARKING FOR TRUCKS, I REALLY DON'T; I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER COMMUNITY THAT DOES THAT. I THINK WE'RE TALKING MAYBE THREE OR FOUR TRUCKS; I'M NOT SURE. I'VE NEVER SEEN MORE THAN THREE PARKED IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA AT ANY ONE TIME. I WORRY ABOUT THE LIABILITY. UNLIKE COUNCILLOR TURNER, I THINK THAT'S A VERY REAL THING AND I THINK WE DO HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. I KNOW THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE FOR A LONG TIME, BUT THIS TIME THINGS ARE CHANGING, AND I DON'T SEE WHERE WE CAN REALISTICALLY OFFER FREE PARKING TO PEOPLE THAT IT'S GOING TO COST THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE MONEY TO GET SET UP OR THEN CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN IT. I JUST I THINK IT'S A BAD DECISION ON OUR PART, SO I WOULD AGREE WITH LEAVING THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE. IT'S UNFORTUNATE, I THINK, PERHAPS THE BASE OF 108 MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY FOR THEM TO PARK. I KNOW THEN THEY HAVE TO DRIVE IN, BUT THEY COULDN'T DO IT. SO ANYWAY, I PASS THIS ON TO COUNCIL AND WE'LL SEE WHERE IT GOES. THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN ELLIOT LAKE WHO DON'T WORK IN ELLIOT LAKE, WHO CHOOSE TO LIVE IN ELLIOT LAKE AND TO TRAVEL. SOME OF THEM HAPPEN TO BE TRUCKERS, SOME OF THEM ARE MINERS, SOME OF THEM ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE OTHER OCCUPATIONS, AND I THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT PROGRESS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY A PRICE FOR THAT, AND RIGHT NOW IT'S THESE SEVEN OR EIGHT TRUCK TRUCKERS, AND I BELIEVE THAT IS THE NUMBER. IT MAY ONLY BE THAT YOU SEE THREE OR FOUR AT A TIME, BUT THEY COME IN FOR A FEW DAYS AND LEAVE AND THEN A FEW MORE COME IN AND LEAVE, AND I JUST WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT WE DIDN'T DO THIS. THE LETTER WE RECEIVED TODAY, I THINK THEY FELT THAT THEY WERE SOLD THE PROPERTY AND THEY WERE AN AFTERTHOUGHT, I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT SINCE WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROPERTY, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND SOLUTION. I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN PUT THE TRUCK DRIVERS IN TOUCH WITH MR. CYR, AND MAYBE TOGETHER THEY CAN COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM PARKED ON THE STREETS OF ELLIOT LAKE. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM IN THEIR DRIVEWAYS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THAT WE'VE ALSO DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION TO HELP THEM. AS I SAID AT THE MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT, I HOPE THAT WE SHOW THEM A LITTLE BIT OF DISCRETION UNTIL THEY GET THEMSELVES SITUATED. SOME OF THEM MAY NOT BE BACK YET. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE EVEN BEEN IN TOWN SINCE. BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THEM DRIVE FOR TWO OR THREE WEEKS AT A TIME AND ARE HOME FOR A FEW DAYS. SO I HOPE THAT WE GIVE THEM SOME TIME TO GET THEMSELVES SITUATED AND ASK MORE PEOPLE LIKE MR. CYR TO COME FORWARD AND TRY TO HELP US OFFER A SOLUTION. I DON'T KNOW IF FOX DRIVE IS A SOLUTION. I DON'T KNOW IF PEARSON'S A SOLUTION, BUT IF THERE'S A SIMPLE SOLUTION LIKE THAT WE CAN GIVE OUT THE INFORMATION TO THEM, AND IF THERE'S A LIABILITY, HOW MUCH IS THAT LIABILITY? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FINANCIALLY? WELL, MAYBE THAT'S THE ANSWER IS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO CHARGE PER YEAR A NOMINAL AMOUNT OF MONEY IN ORDER TO KEEP THE LIABILITY CLEAR. I KNOW THAT WE ARE--I'M GETTING TIRED OF HEARING THE WORD, BUT IT'S THE WORD OF THE DAY. IT'S THE WAY WE ALL HAVE TO LOOK AT THINGS AND DO OUR BUSINESS, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT , AND OUR COFFERS ARE SHOWING THAT BY THE AMOUNT OF OUR INSURANCE PREMIUMS, SO WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE IN THAT WAY, BUT I'M SORRY THAT IT'S AFFECTED THEM THIS WAY, BUT WE CAN'T STOP PROGRESS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO NOT [02:40:01] SELL PROPERTY AND HAVE SOME BUILDINGS AND SOME TAXATION. THE TRUCKERS ARE IMPORTANT AND SO ARE EVERYONE ELSE THAT TRAVEL TO AND FRO', AND I WANT THEM TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT, BUT HOPEFULLY IF THEY WORK TO FIND A SOLUTION AS WELL AND MAYBE PUTTING THEM IN TOUCH WITH MR. CYR OR I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THE NORTH INDUSTRIAL AREA THAT THERE'S BIG ENOUGH FOR ANYTHING OR THE PROPERTY IN FRONT OF SHENANDOAH RANCH. I DON'T KNOW WHO OWNS THAT. IT'S PRETTY FLAT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A VIABLE OPTION EITHER, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIND FIGURE OUT SOMETHING, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF LENIENCY TO FIND OUT, AND AS COUNCILLOR TURNER SAID, MAYBE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE USING THAT PROPERTY FOR ANOTHER MONTH OR SO, WHICH WILL GIVE THEM A BIT OF TIME TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR THEMSELVES, AND MR. GAGNON, YOU HAD A COMMENT? JUST A SEGUE OVER TO MR. ANTUNES, WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO RISK MANAGEMENT LIABILITY ISSUES. WE HAVE SOLUTIONS THAT CAN MITIGATE OUR CONCERNS AND WORK WITH THEM, INCLUDING WITH THE NEW PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WON'T BE HAVING SHOVELS IN THE GROUND IN THE DEAD OF WINTER. SO I THINK A MOTION OR DISTINCTION BETWEEN A SHORT TERM OR IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER, LET'S HELP THEM WITHIN REASON RIGHT NOW, AND THEN THAT'LL BUY US THE TIME TO FIND A LONGER TERM SOLUTION, IF WE EVEN WANT TO HAVE A LONGER TERM SOLUTION THAT CAN BE VETTED, RESEARCHED AND BACK IN FRONT OF COUNCIL IN DUE TIME, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, SURELY WE CAN FIND SOME SOLUTIONS IN THE SHORT TERM FOR THE 8 TRUCKERS THAT [INAUDIBLE], AND I KNOW, MR. ANTUNES [INAUDIBLE], I THINK WE CAN [INAUDIBLE] THIS IN THE SHORT TERM AND THEN BUY US TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE LONGER TERM SOLUTION MIGHT BE. OK. FOLLOW UP, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE? IN THE MEANTIME, THEY ARE ABLE TO PARK DOWN ON THE 17 HIGHWAY, CORRECT? NOT FOR LONG TERM. NOT FOR LONG TERM? NO. OK. COUNCILLOR CYR. WELL, MOST OF THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE; I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO LOOK AT SOMETHING A SOLUTION TO TRY TO HELP THEM OUT WITHOUT SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, BUT I THINK IT IS WORTH OUR WHILE AND OUR CITIZENS' WHILE TO AT LEAST TRY TO HELP THEM OUT. COUNCILLOR MANN? THANKS, YOUR WORSHIP. MY COMMENTS WERE AS WELL MENTIONED BY GAGNON. SHORT TERM, AN INITIAL STOPGAP MEASURE, AS WELL AS MAYBE A LONGER TERM SOLUTION. SOME OF THE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED CLEARLY THE LAND BY THE AIRPORT SEEMS REASONABLE, BUT AGAIN, I'M ASSUMING SOME OF THE CONCERNS WOULD BE THERE'S NO LIGHTING. MY CONCERN WITH THE BALL DIAMOND NEAR THE CENTENNIAL, IT'S ESSENTIALLY IN THE BACKYARD OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT, ESPECIALLY THIS TIME OF YEAR, WITH REEFERS THINGS RUNNING AROUND THE CLOCK IS REALLY CONDUCIVE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD NECESSARILY WORK, BUT IF WE COULD FIND SOMETHING ON A ON A SHORT TERM BASIS, AGAIN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS NOW AT AN OPEN MEETING. HOPEFULLY, IT WILL BE PICKED UP BY THE MEDIA AS THIS IS AN ISSUE AND POTENTIALLY ANOTHER PROPONENT WILL COME FORWARD SIMILAR TO OUR DISCUSSIONS REGARDING GROCERY SERVICES AND TOWN, AND SOMEONE MIGHT COME FORWARD WITH ANOTHER POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY IN ORDER TO ASSIST THIS INDIVIDUAL. I DON'T WANT TO SEE PEOPLE MOVE OUT OF THE COMMUNITY EITHER. AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF SELLING LAND, RIGHT? YOU SELL SOMETHING, BUT AGAIN YOU'RE DISLODGING OTHERS BECAUSE WE'VE USED IT FOREVER, BUT AGAIN, I THINK WITH SOME REASONABLE PLAN AND I'D BE INTERESTED AS WELL TO FIND OUT WHAT WHAT TYPES OF COSTS LIABILITY ARE FOR THINGS LIKE THIS TO MOVE FORWARD. MAYBE IT ISN'T THAT NECESSARILY UNPALATABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME TYPE OF SOLUTION TO ASSIST THESE INDIVIDUALS. THANK YOU. I THINK EVERYBODY IS ALONG THE SAME PAGE? AGAIN, I'M GOING TO MENTION THAT SNOW DUMP ON PEARSON. I THINK MR. ANTUNES HAS BEEN TRYING TO [INAUDIBLE] BUT THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM IN THAT PIERSON SNOW DUMP AND IT'S ALREADY PLOWED, IT'S ALREADY MAINTAINED TO TURN A FIFTY THREE FOOT RIG AROUND AND DO DONUTS IN THERE IF YOU NEED TO. THE CITY ALREADY MAINTAINS IT AND THE BIGGEST LIABILITY OF THE CITY HAS IS SIDEWALKS, AND WE HAVEN'T KICKED THE SIDEWALKS OUT OF THE COMMUNITY YET AGAIN. IT'S VERY EASY TO GET THE DRIVERS TO SIGN WAIVERS. OR PUT UP SIGNAGE, AS WE DID WITH THE SKATE PARK, WHERE YOU CAN GET HURT IF YOU USE THIS . MR. ANTUNES, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. OH, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I'M SORRY, I'M NOT TRYING TO JUMP IN AND THANK YOU COUNCILLOR PEARCE FOR POINTING IT OUT; I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU SAW ME. [02:45:02] JUST A COUPLE OF NOTES THAT I MADE AS WE WENT ALONG, OF THE DRIVERS THAT WERE AFFECTED, I DID GET CONTACTED BY TWO OF THE DRIVERS WHO WERE ABLE TO FIND ALTERNATE PARKING WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY SO IT CAN BE DONE. SOME OF THEM WERE TIED IN TO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION HERE IN TOWN, SO THEY WERE ABLE TO SOURCE OTHER PARKING IN TOWN, AND THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PATRIE. CERTAINLY, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT. I DID KNOW THAT ONE OF THE DRIVERS WHO HAS, MARTIN HAS BEEN A GREAT SOUNDING BOARD, AND HE'S BEEN VERY USEFUL IN PROVIDING SOLUTIONS OR OPINIONS FOR SOME LAYPERSON LIKE MYSELF, WHO DOES NOT DRIVE A RIG ABOUT DIFFERENT ONES AND DIFFERENT SPOTS. SO HE'S BEEN GREAT WITH FILLING IN AND HIS ISSUE WITH THE SKI HILL ROAD, CERTAINLY, WE CAN LOOK INTO IT, BUT HE DID MENTION THAT HE HAS IN YEARS GONE BY, TRIED TO DRIVE THE SKI HILL ROAD AND PART OF THE INITIAL PART OF IT, HE BELIEVES, IS TOO MUCH OF AN INCLINE. BECAUSE WE ALSO LOOK AT THE SKI HILL PARKING LOT AS WELL AS AN ALTERNATIVE, AND SOME OF HIS CONCERNS WAS THE MAKEUP AND THE SKI HILL ROAD ITSELF WOULD REQUIRE A LOT OF SANDING, SALTING AND PLOWING. SO CERTAINLY HAPPY TO HEAR AND MR. GAGNON ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT THERE HAVE, BUT WE HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH ON THOSE AS WELL. SO JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I'M NOT RECOMMENDING AND NOR DID MR. CYR RECOMMEND THE BOTTOM OF THE SKI HILL. THERE IS A VERY FLAT TRACT OF LAND THAT WOULD BE VERY MINIMAL COSTS TO TAKE UP WITH FOLIAGE HAS GROWN IN THERE. IT IS AN OLD DUMP. WE CANNOT SELL IT AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BUILD ON IT, AND IT IS STRICTLY. TWO HUNDRED YARDS UP SKI HILL ROAD, WHICH THEY CAN GET UP THE FIRST PORTION OF THE HILL. THE PROBLEM WITH THE HILL ON SKI HILL ROAD IS COMING BACK UP FROM THE SKI HILL WITH THE EQUIPMENT. IT WOULDN'T BE HARD FOR THEM TO GET UP. THE FIRST SMALL INCLINE THAT WOULD TAKE THEM, THEY WOULD GO UP THE HILL AND TURN LEFT ONTO THAT GREAT BIG FLAT PLATEAU. MR. ANTUNES I'LL BRING YOU THE MAPS THAT MR. CYR HAS BROUGHT ME, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, YOU'LL GO, YEP, THAT'S NOT A BAD PLACE AT ALL, AND IT IS NON SELLABLE LAND, SO IT BECOMES A MATTER OF WE'VE GOT [INAUDIBLE] ONCE WE'VE TAKEN THE FOLIAGE OFF AND IT IS LARGE ENOUGH. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING THREE OR FOUR OR SIX TRUCKERS. THERE ARE UP TO EIGHT OR NINE TRUCKS CAN BE THERE AT A TIME, AND THEN THERE'S OTHER TRUCKS THAT WOULD BE THERE AT DIFFERENT TIMES. SO I DO BELIEVE WE'VE GOT A DOZEN OR TWO DOZEN DIFFERENT TAXPAYERS WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY THAT ARE USING THIS INDUSTRY AND ARE PARKING WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH FOR DECADES. MR. ANTUNES? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THROUGH YOU TO COUNCILLOR PATRIE. I WILL GLADLY TAKE THE MAPS, BUT I WILL DEFER TO OUR VERY TALENTED PUBLIC WORKS CREW MR. HALLOCH AND MR. DOYLE FOR THEIR INPUTS; I'LL SERVE AS A CONDUIT. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK TO MR. DOYLE OVER IN LOOKING AT ANY AREAS. CAN THAT AREA TAKE THE LEAD OF A RIG BECAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO PUT THEM IN AN AREA WHERE THEIR TRUCK'S GOING TO SINK AND BECOME A STATIONARY OBJECT. WOULDN'T ANYONE A SERVICE? WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE THIS REPORT. I'M NOT SURE IF MR. GAGNON--ARE YOU GOOD WITH THE DIRECTION FROM THIS CONVERSATION OR DO YOU WANT A SPECIFIC MOTION TO GO WITH IT? I MEAN, DIRECTION TO STAFF, I MEAN, A MOTION IS ALWAYS HANDY, BUT CHANCES ARE WHATEVER SOLUTION WE FIND WILL LIKELY REQUIRE COMING BACK IF WE HAVE TO UNNECESSARILY SO A MOTION FOR STAFF TO FIND A SHORT TERM SOLUTION TO THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE PARKING WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. YES, AND MAYBE GIVE US, I DON'T KNOW, 90 DAYS AND WE'LL GET BACK WELL WITHIN THAT TIME TO COME UP WITH A MEDIUM OR LONGER TERM SOLUTION, BUT GIVE US THE DIRECTION THAT WE HAVE TO MITIGATE RISK AND FIND SOME SOLUTION THAT WILL HELP THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE PARKING IMMEDIATELY. OTHERWISE JUST DIRECTION TO STAFF MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOO VAGUE. OK. MS. BRAY, DO YOU HAVE THAT AS A MOTION? THAT STAFF DEVELOP A SHORT TERM SOLUTION TO COMMERCIAL VEHICLE PARKING WITHIN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, AND I DIDN'T CATCH THE REST. [02:50:01] MAYBE SOMETHING IN REPORT ON LONGER TERM SOLUTIONS WITHIN 90 DAYS SO THAT WE HAVE DIRECTION FOR THE SHORT AND COME BACK WITH A DEADLINE SO THAT IT'S NOT FORGOTTEN. IS THERE A MOVER FOR THAT AMENDMENT? I'LL MOVE. COUNCILLOR MANN SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? SEEING NONE, ROLL-CALL VOTE. OK, THANK YOU, AND SO THE AMENDMENT IS CARRIED. THE MOTION AS AMENDED WOULD BE TO RECEIVE PLUS THE AMENDMENT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ROLL CALL, AGAIN, STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR TURNER. THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU. 14.2 A REFERRAL FROM BYLAW AND PLANNING COMMITTEE MEMO FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND BUSINESS LICENSE REGISTRATION UPDATE. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, THROUGH YOU. AT THE FEBRUARY 10TH MEETING AGAIN OF THE BYLAW AND PLANNING COMMITTEE, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED, BUT THE MEMO FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT READ BUSINESS LICENSE REGISTRATION UPDATE BE RECEIVED AND THAT THE MEMO WILL BE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND INFORMATION AND I SO MOVE. SECONDER? SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, THANK YOU. IF I MAY, JUST BEFORE YOU JUMP TO MR. ANTUNES, A COUPLE OF THINGS. THIS IS NOT, I THINK, AS MR. ANTUNES WILL EXPLAIN, THIS IS A DIRECTORY. IT IS NOT A REGISTRATION FORMAT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I THINK IT BEHOOVES US TO MENTION THE FACT THAT THIS FOLLOWS ON THE FOOTSTEPS OF [INAUDIBLE] WHO DID AN AWFUL LOT OF GROUNDWORK, AND MR. H. HAS FOLLOWED UP ON THAT AND ADDED TO IT AND UPDATED IT, AND AS A CONSEQUENCE, WE HAVE A RELATIVELY COMPREHENSIVE DIRECTORY OF BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE. NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. ANTUNES. MR. ANTUNES? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, AND THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE. THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, SO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, WHEN I WAS PUT IN THE POSITION, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE TOOK ON WAS STARTING TO DO SOME UPDATING OF A BUSINESS LISTING THAT WE HAVE AND WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH MS. BRAY ON THIS OPPORTUNITY GOING FORWARD. SO THE PRIMARY GOAL WAS TO MAKE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC A LISTING OF BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE IN THE MUNICIPALITY AND A SIMPLE WAY FOR BUSINESSES TO HAVE THEMSELVES LISTED. AS COUNCILLOR PEARCE MENTIONED, MR. H. HAS BEEN WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY TO VALIDATE THE DATA WITHIN THE DOCUMENT. OUR GREAT MUNICIPAL ENFORCEMENT TEAM WAS ALSO VERY HELPFUL IN VETTING AND CORRECTING SOME OF THE DATA THAT WAS IN THERE AND TAKING OUT SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT WERE VERY OBVIOUSLY VIOLATING ANY TYPE OF BYLAW OR ANYONE THAT THEY KNEW THAT WAS AN ISSUE. THE DOCUMENT THAT'S ATTACHED IN THE [INAUDIBLE], IT'S A GOOD STARTING POINT. IT'S THE MOST RECENT VERSION THAT WE HAVE, AND IT'S A STARTING POINT IF THE MUNICIPALITY CHOOSES TO GO THE ROUTE OF A BUSINESS REGISTRY OR SOME FORM OF LICENSING. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE MUNICIPALITY WOULD PUT THIS FORTH AS JUST A BUSINESS LISTING WITHOUT THE WORD REGISTRY IN IT, WITH THE DISCLAIMER THAT THE LISTING IS JUST THAT A LISTING THAT THE MUNICIPALITY DOES NOT ENDORSE ANY BUSINESS LISTED WITHIN THE LISTING, AND THAT RESIDENTS AND USERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE WHEN WORKING WITH OR TAKING ON THE SERVICES OF ANYONE LISTED IN THIS DIRECTORY. SHOULD THE NEXT STEP BE TO CREATE A REGISTRY, THROUGH LICENSING, A LARGE AMOUNT OF WORK IS NEEDED TO DO THAT, NOT JUST UP FRONT AND GETTING EVERYONE ON, BUT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. TO VALIDATE THAT FOLKS THAT WE ARE PUTTING IN A BUSINESS TO BUSINESS REGISTRY, OUR [INAUDIBLE], OUR LICENSED AND THEY'RE COMPLIANT ZONING, AND THEN THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY HAS DONE. [02:55:03] ONE OF THE ITEMS BROUGHT UP WAS THAT PERHAPS LICENSING OF SPECIFIC BUSINESS VERTICALS THAT ARE MORE SENSITIVE TO THE PUBLIC, WHEREAS A CLOTHING RETAILER, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD NOT NEED TO BE LICENSED OR BE VETTED AS MUCH AS A CONTRACTOR OR SOMEONE PROVIDING SERVICES. THEY'RE OF MORE SENSITIVE NATURE, BUT AGAIN, IF IT'S ALL ENCOMPASSING AS A TRUE REGISTRY, THAT'S WHERE THE POLICING COMES INTO EFFECT FOR THE CLERK'S DEPARTMENT AND MUNICIPAL ENFORCEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANNUALLY BUSINESSES ARE REGISTERED AND ARE MEETING REQUIREMENTS SO ACTIVE AND THE CLERK'S DEPARTMENT ARE VERY HAPPY TO WORK TOGETHER, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE WILL OF COUNCIL IS AND LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM THE COMMITTEE AND NOW THROUGH COUNCIL ON STEPS TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FEATURE, THIS IS A GREAT WAY FOR EVEN SMALL BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO GET THEIR NAME OUT IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC, AND WE ACTUALLY ARE UPDATING IT ON A WEEKLY BASIS. SO FOR THOSE WATCHING AT HOME THAT HAVEN'T BEEN BORED AND TURNED OFF THE TELEVISION YET, ANY SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO EDL@ELLIOTLAKE.CA IF YOUR BUSINESS IS NOT IN THE DIRECTORY AND WE WILL BE UPDATING IT MONDAY MORNINGS ON A WEEKLY BASIS TO ENSURE ALL BUSINESSES ARE REPRESENTED AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCILLOR MAY HAVE. PERFECT. THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES. I APPRECIATE SEEING THE DIRECTORY, AND I THINK IT'S, AS YOU MENTIONED, ANY BUSINESSES THAT MAY HAVE BEEN MISSED OR NEW BUSINESSES OPENING IN THE COMMUNITY CAN CONTACT YOUR OFFICE AND BE ADDED TO THE DIRECTORY. I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING FOR INDIVIDUALS LOOKING AT ELLIOT LAKE INTERESTED MOVING HERE OR INVESTING HERE TO BE ABLE TO SEE A DIRECTORY, SEE WHAT BUSINESSES AND SERVICES ARE OFFERED IN OUR COMMUNITY ALONG WITH, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO GO IN AND LOOK AT REAL TIME VIDEO OF THE MINERS MONUMENT AND THE PIER. WE HAVE MORE TO OFFER AND IT'S SEEN ON OUR SYSTEM ALL THE TIME. MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THIS A GOOD FIRST STEP. THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF, BUT I BELIEVE MORE NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND WHETHER IT MIGHT BE A PROCESS THAT TAKES A FEW YEARS. THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME BUSINESSES THAT I THINK WE NEED TO SEE WITH SOME TYPE OF REGISTRATION AND LICENSING BECAUSE THERE IS A FEW BUSINESSES I BELIEVE THAT ARE RUNNING AMOK AND COULD POTENTIALLY CAUSE HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES FOR RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT CHOOSE TO USE THE SERVICE OR THE BUSINESS. SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD FIRST STEP, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS. I'VE COUNCILLOR PATRIE STARTING THIS ONE AND COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, I APPRECIATE THE BUSINESS DIRECTORY OR BUSINESS LISTING. I STILL THINK THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, AND I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD GOTTEN A RESOLUTION OF COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BUSINESS LICENSING. I DO UNDERSTAND IT IS VERY TIME CONSUMING. IT'S GOING TO BE AN ENDEAVOR TO GET THIS DONE AND PROCESSED. THERE ARE EXAMPLES IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES OF GETTING BUSINESS LICENSING THAT [INAUDIBLE] STAFF'S PRETTY GOOD AT BEING ABLE TO FIND RESOURCES OUT THERE. I HAVE TOTAL FAITH IN STAFF TO DO THAT, BUT I STILL KNOW THAT IT WILL TAKE AN AMOUNT OF TIME TO DO THAT AND MANPOWER. THE PREDICAMENT I HAVE IS THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE OPERATING BUSINESSES IN NONCOMMERCIAL SETTINGS AREN'T PAYING TAXES AREN'T BENEFITING THE COFFERS OF THE MUNICIPALITY AND I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY OF YOUR BUSINESSES THAT ARE LEGITIMATE AND THAT ARE PAYING COMMERCIAL TAXES ABSOLUTELY WOULD NOT HAVE AN ISSUE PAYING THE FEE FOR A BUSINESS LICENSE TO BE REGISTERED WITH A LEGITIMATE AS A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS WITH A COMMERCIAL ENTITY TO BE RESPECTED AND KNOWING THAT THEY ARE PAYING COMMERCIAL TAXES TO THE MUNICIPALITY. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER COMMERCIAL TAXES ARE DOUBLE WHAT RESIDENTIAL TAXES ARE. SO PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING BUSINESSES OUT OF THEIR HOMES IMPROPERLY ARE JUST GETTING AWAY WITH DOING THINGS IMPROPER PERIOD. [03:00:02] YOU SHOULDN'T BE RUNNING A BUSINESS OUT OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA; YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE A GARAGE AND PEOPLE COMING TO YOUR PLACE ALL THE TIME. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A STORE AND PEOPLE COMING AND PICKING STUFF UP AND SO FORTH. I THINK THE ONLY WAY TO MONITOR THAT AND FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO DO IT IS TO HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE WITH A BUSINESS LICENSE FEE TO BE ABLE TO COMPENSATE THE COST THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. I DO UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY TIME CONSUMING FOR STAFF TO GET THIS IN PLACE, BUT ONCE IT'S RESEARCHED AND THEY CAN COME FORWARD, THEN WE CAN AT LEAST PUT SOME STUFF INTO THE BUDGET , AND I AM MORE INTERESTED IN BUSINESS LICENSES HAPPENING THAN A BUSINESS LISTING. MS. BRAY. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. FOR COUNCILLOR PATRIE, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'RE ABLE TO ATTEND THE BYLAW AND PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING, BUT IT WAS DISCUSSED THERE THAT THIS IS A FIRST STEP THIS DIRECTORY AND THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING TOWARDS A PLAN TO BRING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE REGARDING A BYLAW THAT WOULD REQUIRE CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES TO BE REGISTERED AND THEN CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES TO BE LICENSED, AND WE WOULD FOCUS ON THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE CONCERNED TO COUNCIL, SUCH AS THE HOME BASED BUSINESSES, SHORT TERM RENTALS AND CONTRACTORS, ET CETERA. SO WE'RE WORKING ON A LIST TO BRING FORWARD TO A FUTURE BYLAW AND PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING AND THEN EVENTUALLY A BYLAW WITH RESPECT TO LICENSING. THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I WAS GOING TO POINT OUT WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE BYLAW MEETING THAT MS. BRAY JUST BROUGHT FORWARD, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T. THIS IS THE FIRST STEP AND THAT STAFF HAVE BEEN WORKING AND ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK, AND THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT NEED TO BE LICENSED THAT NEED TO BE REGULATED. FOR THE SAFETY I GET, I'VE HAD CALLS WHERE, YOU KNOW, I HAD A GENTLEMAN KNOCK ON MY FRONT DOOR AND WANT ME TO GO UNLOCK LOCAL GARAGE HERE IN TOWN TO GET HIS STEPDAUGHTER'S VEHICLE OUT OF IT BECAUSE THE GUY HADN'T BEEN AT WORK FOR THREE OR FOUR WEEKS AND DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHO IT WAS THAT OWNED THE BUSINESS. SO I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A REAL BENEFIT. MY QUESTION TO MR. ANTUNES IS, IS IT ON THE WEBSITE NOW? OR WHEN WILL IT BE IF IT ISN'T? AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR YOUR PLAN ABOUT UPDATING IT BECAUSE THINGS CHANGE AND THINGS HAPPEN, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S SAD WHEN WE SEE BUSINESSES CLOSE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE NEW BUSINESSES, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD QUITE A LOT OF THEM OPEN THIS LAST YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S CAPTURING WHAT THEY ARE AND WITH THE PHONE NUMBER SO THEY CAN CONTACT THE BUSINESS TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO AND I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT FIRST STEP AND I DO AGREE THAT AS DIFFICULT AS IT'S GOING TO BE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE AHEAD WITH LICENSING AND REGISTERING, AND I AGREE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF HOME BUSINESSES THAT ARE OPERATING UNFAIRLY TO THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE PAYING TAXES AND PAYING RENT AND PAYING ALL THE OVERHEAD THEY ARE FOR THEIR BUSINESSES, AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO START TO ENFORCE THAT BETTER AND NOT SAYING THAT BYLAW ISN'T ENFORCING IT, JUST SAYING THAT WE NEED TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND WHERE THEY ARE, AND THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO START, AND PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE BUSINESSES AT HOME AND NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW, AND THIS IS A GREAT TIME FOR EDUCATION, FOR ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT THINK WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS HOBBIES WHEN THEY ACTUALLY ARE RUNNING BUSINESSES. MR. ANTUNES. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THROUGH YOU TO COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE NOT ON THE WEBSITE YET. WE WERE OUT OF DUE RESPECT TO COUNCIL, WE WERE WAITING FOR THIS TO GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE WAS HAPPY WITH IT. WE WERE JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS OFF SO, SO MR. H. HAS BEEN GETTING UPDATES. WE GOT AN UPDATE AS EARLY AS THIS MORNING WITH A CHANGEOVER, SO THE WORD HAS KIND OF GOTTEN OUT A LITTLE BIT. SO WITH COUNCIL'S BLESSING TODAY WE WILL HAVE IT PUT ON THE SITE WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO WITH THE PROPER DISCLAIMER AND TALKING ABOUT LICENSING AS YOU MENTIONED, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, JUST THE THING, WE'D HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS AS A MUNICIPALITY IS THAT DISTINCT LINE BETWEEN LICENSING AND ENDORSING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A BUSINESS CAN BE LICENSED, BUT THE DELICATE LINE BETWEEN THAT AND SAYING, WELL, JUST BECAUSE A CONTRACTOR IS LICENSED, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF DID FIND ONLINE WAS IT'S JUST THAT DELICATE LINE BETWEEN A LICENSING AND AN ENDORSEMENT WHERE SOMEONE GETS LICENSED IN THE MUNICIPALITY BECAUSE THEY CHECK ALL THE RIGHT BOXES, BUT THEY'RE JUST NOT A VERY GOOD CONTRACTOR OR NOT A VERY GOOD MECHANIC, BUT IT WAS LICENSED BY THE CITY, SO I SHOULD BE FINE, BUT YOU KNOW, LICENSE IS NOT A SIGN OF QUALITY, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT TO ANSWER LONG ANSWER TO YOUR SHORT QUESTION IS [03:05:06] HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, WE SHOULD HAVE IT UP, IF COUNCIL GIVES US THE BLESSING THIS EVENING. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY THERE, MR. ANTUNES. ALSO THERE ARE SOME BUSINESSES OR SOME OCCUPATIONS THAT DO REQUIRE SPECIFIC CERTIFICATES AND SPECIFIC LICENSING, AND I THINK A PERFECT EXAMPLE IS FOOD SAFETY. SO RATHER THAN ORDERING FROM A RESTAURANT, ORDERING FROM KATE'S HOME FOOD SERVICE OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT SURE THAT THERE'S NO CROSS-CONTAMINATION OF MEAT ON A CUTTING BOARD OR ALLERGENS ARE BEING CHECKED. CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THAT ARE JUST DANGEROUS. MS. BRAY, YOU DO HAVE A LISTING OF WHAT IS A LOUD AS FAR AS A BYLAW, WHAT'S ALLOWED AS A HOME BASED BUSINESS THAT MAYBE CAN BE A SAFE WAY TO ASSIST IN THIS MATTER, ALSO TO HELP JUST EDUCATE THE HOME BASED BUSINESS INDIVIDUALS. AM I CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YOUR WORSHIP. SO IT IS IN THE ZONING BYLAW, AND WE RECENTLY MADE A POST ON FACEBOOK, THE CITY'S FACEBOOK PAGE, REGARDING FOOD BASED HOME BUSINESSES AND WHAT'S ALLOWED AND NOT ALLOWED FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE. SO THAT ACTUALLY DID GET SOME REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK, AND I'VE HAD A FEW PEOPLE CALL IN AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH OUR DEPARTMENT TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE, SO THERE'LL BE MORE OF THOSE KIND OF POSTS GOING OUT. OK, GOOD STUFF. VERY PROACTIVE. THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PEARCE? THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU. MS. BRAY AND I HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS CONCERNING THIS BECAUSE IT REALLY IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. I AGREE WITH THE COUNCILLORS WE NEED TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN LICENSE BUSINESSES AND THIS IS A FIRST STEP TOWARDS THAT, ALTHOUGH I HAVE SOME QUALMS ON A COUPLE OF A COUPLE OF AREAS, THERE ARE SPECIFIC PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR CURRENT ZONING BYLAW, WHICH ALLOWS CERTAIN BUSINESSES TO BE DONE FROM HOME, WHICH FRANKLY, I FIND VERY, NOT DISTURBING, BUT VERY WEIRD THAT WE WOULD ALLOW SOME BUSINESSES TO OPERATE FROM HOME WHERE OTHERS CAN'T, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S HAD AN EFFECT ON LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES AND I'M THINKING, PARTICULARLY OF HAIRDRESSERS AND BARBERS WHO ARE WORKING AND PAYING THEIR TAXES AND RENTING THEIR BUILDINGS AND DOING WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO VERSUS SOMEBODY WHO'S WORKING OUT OF THEIR KITCHEN, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING A LOT. WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THE FOOD INDUSTRY WHERE PEOPLE ARE ARE DOING WHAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE DOING, AND WE HOPE THAT MAYBE THE PEOPLE IN ELLIOT LAKE WOULD LEARN THAT UNLESS YOU REALLY KNOW THIS PERSON, IT'S NOT MAYBE NECESSARILY A GOOD IDEA TO BUY SOMETHING FROM THEM. THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE, MR. ANTUNES TALKS ABOUT LIABILITY WHEN YOU PUT UP THE WORD LICENSING EVERY COMMUNITY THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT HAS LICENSES, HAS A VERY SIMPLE STATEMENT ON THERE, WHICH SAYS A LICENSE IS NOT AN ENDORSEMENT. VERY SIMPLE. I KNOW WHEN I WAS IN TORONTO AND I HAD A BUSINESS LICENSE, IT NEVER SAID THAT THEY ENDORSED THE BUSINESS THAT I RAN; IT WAS JUST A LICENSE THAT ALLOWED ME TO RUN THE BUSINESS, AND I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY STANDARD KIND OF A THING TO DO BY HAVING THIS LIST. IT'S A BEGINNING AND I THINK, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME--AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION, MAYBE AT THE COMMITTEE ON THIS--THAT IF WE HAVE THE ADDRESSES THAT WE KNOW WHO THE OWNERS ARE, THEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEND SOMETHING OUT TO THEM SAYING, OH, BY THE WAY, MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE OFFICIALLY REGISTERING AND WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE YOU A BUSINESS LICENSE. I DON'T SEE HOW THAT COULD BE THAT DIFFICULT OR TIME CONSUMING. WE ALREADY HAVE THE ADDRESSES, AND QUITE OFTEN WE'RE SENDING OUT INFORMATION TO THEM ANYWAY. WE'RE SENDING THEM IN THE FORM OF PROPERTY TAXES, WATER TAXES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I THINK MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE A WAY AROUND THAT, BUT AGAIN, I'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMITTEE AND WITH MS. BRAY AND MR. ANTUNES. THANK YOU. OK, SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP OF MULTIPLE STEPS HERE. MR. ANTUNES, YOU HAD SOMETHING TO ADD? NO, SIR, YOUR WORSHIP, I PUT IT UP BEFORE COUNCILLOR PEARCE SUGGESTED THAT HE'D HAVE AN OFFLINE DISCUSSION WITH MS. BRAY AND MYSELF, SO I WON'T WASTE ANY MORE TIME THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT, NEVER A WASTE OF TIME, MR. ANTUNES, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THE STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR US. THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY A MOTION TO RECEIVE SOME INFORMATION THAT MORE WORK [03:10:01] CAN BE DONE IN THE FUTURE. VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. SO I'LL CALL FOR THE ROLL CALL ON RECEIVING. THAT'S CARRIED, THANK YOU. OKAY, [INAUDIBLE] INTRODUCTION, CONSIDERATION OF BYLAWS. [15. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF BY-LAWS] 15.1 IS MOOT. 15.2 BYLAW 22-11 BEING A BYLAW TO PROVIDE FOR INTERIM TAX LEVY FOR THE YEAR 2022. CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN, COUNCILLOR CYR. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL. THAT'S CARRIED. PUBLIC QUESTION PERIOD. THAT WAS DONE BRIGHT AND EARLY, COUNCILLOR PATRIE. CLOSED SESSION. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION? SORRY, MS. BRAY, WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR WERE THEY ALL GOLF COURSE RELATED? THERE'S A BYLAW. FOR PUBLIC QUESTION, DO YOU MEAN? YEAH. NO, I SENT EVERYTHING THAT WAS SENT OVER. WE JUST PASSED THE BYLAW COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. WE'RE AT CLOSED SESSION AND THEN WE HAVE CONFIRMATORY. [17. CLOSED SESSION (if applicable)] MOTION TO GO INTO A CLOSED SESSION. MOVED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR CYR. AGAIN, ANY QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES. SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL. THAT IS CARRIED LIKE, THANK EVERYONE FOR TAKING THE TIME TO WATCH THIS EVENING AND YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND I WILL SEE YOU ALL SHORTLY. BEAUTIFUL. ALL RIGHT. A MOTION TO COME OUT OF A CLOSED SESSION? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN. SECOND BY COUNCILLOR CYR. ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED, WE'RE NOW BACK IN OPEN SESSION. CONFIRMATORY BYLAW, 18.1 BYLAW 22-10 BEING ABLE TO CONFIRM THE PROCEEDINGS OF COUNCIL AT [18. CONFIRMATORY BY-LAW] ITS MEETING HELD ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 14, 2022. MOVER, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? SEEING NON, ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED, THANK YOU. MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU ALL. HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY AND WE ARE ADJOURNED * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.