Jul 11, 2022 City Council

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> [NOISE] NOW I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER THIS REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING OF A COUNCIL FOR THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, MONDAY, JULY 11TH, 2022.

THE TIME IS 7:00 PM, START OUT BY RESPECTFULLY RECOGNIZING THAT WE'RE ON THE TRADITIONAL LANDS OF THE ANISHINAABE PEOPLE AND TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SPIRIT OF THE ROBINSON HURON TREATY WHICH WE ARE ALL A PART OF.

AS FAR AS ROLL-CALL, ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COUNSELORS HERE, WHO'LL BE A FEW MINUTES LATE.

BEFORE WE START THE MEETING, IF I COULD, I'D ASK JACK TRUDEAU IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SAYING A WORD OF PRAYER FOR US, WILL BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

YES, PLEASE. JUST GOT TO MAKE SURE THE LITTLE GREEN LIGHT'S ON.

>> [FOREIGN] THOSE ARE WORDS OF ANISHINAABE GREETING, WHICH IS A NORMAL GREETING FOR OUR PEOPLE WHEN THEY GO IN AND GREET AND MEET WITH OTHER TRIBES OR OTHER COMMUNITIES.

MY NAME IS JACK TRUDEAU.

I'M FROM CUTLER, AND MY CLAN IS FISH.

WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO TONIGHT IS START THIS MEETING WITH A PRAYER.

I'LL START WITH A PRAYER.

I'VE ALSO BEEN ASKED FOR AS MUCH NOW I'M NOT TOO SURE IF YOU WANT TO GO WITH THAT AS MUCH.

JUST BEFORE I DO THAT, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNCIL AND THE AUDIENCE AS MUCH AS TRADITIONAL PRACTICE THAT WE HAVE SACRED MEDICINES AND ONE OF THEM IS SAGE.

WE'LL BE BURNING SAGE.

WHAT IT DOES IS IT'LL BURN AND I WILL APPROACH YOU AND EITHER YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.

BUT I'VE TAUGHT A FEW PEOPLE THAT THE SAGE IS THERE TO CLEANSE AND TO INVITE SOME GOOD THOUGHTS AND GOOD SPIRITS AND THAT YOU WILL BRING THOSE OUT WHEN YOU'RE INTERACTING WITH THE COMMUNITY OR YOUR FELLOW COUNSELORS AND SO THAT THINGS WILL BE DISCUSSED IN A GOOD WAY FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE SMUDGE.

IF IT COMES AROUND IF YOU WANT, JUST LIKE A LITTLE SINK, YOU WASH YOUR HANDS AND THEN TOP OF YOUR HEAD AND ALL THE WAY DOWN.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. THEN I'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT PERSON.

OR IF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE, THAT'S FINE TOO.

I'LL WALK AROUND AND I'LL SMUDGE THE AREA HERE AND THEN I'LL BURN IT FOR A LITTLE BIT, AND I'LL PUT IT OUT SO IT DOESN'T GET THE FIRE ALARM [LAUGHTER] I DON'T WANT THAT.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE US TO STAND IN THE INNER CIRCLE OR ARE WE BETTER WHERE WE ARE?

>> IF YOU WANT IT, THAT WAY IT'D BE MORE EASIER.

YOU JUST STAND IN THE SEMICIRCLE THERE AND THEN WE CAN GET THAT DONE.

ONCE YOU'RE THERE. I'LL START WITH PRAYER.

THOSE WHO WANT TO BE SMUDGED.

I'LL START OFF WITH A PRAYER. USUALLY A PRAYER IS LISTENED TO, BUT I'LL BE THE VOICE OF THE PRAYER.

WHEN THE SMUDGE COMES AROUND, YOU CAN TAKE THOSE THOUGHTS AND THE SMUDGE WILL RISE UP AND THE PRAYERS ITSELF WILL TAKE IT TO THE CREATOR.

ANYWAY, I'LL START WITH THE PRAYER AND I'LL JUST VOICE IT OUT IN ENGLISH.

[FOREIGN].

CREATOR, WE GATHER HERE TO OFFER THANKS FOR THE BLESSINGS OF A GOOD DAY.

WE'RE THANKFUL FOR OUR BEING HERE ON THIS GREAT EARTH.

WE'RE THANKFUL FOR OUR FAMILIES AND OUR COMMUNITIES AND WE ASK THEE TO BLESS US AS

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THANKFUL FOR ALL THESE THINGS WE HAVE AS A COMMUNITY, AND WE SAY [FOREIGN] THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. WE CAN JUST CARRY ON WITH OUR BUSINESS [FOREIGN]

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>> THANK YOU, MIGUCH JACK, ONCE AGAIN FOR THAT. VERY CALMING.

DEFINITELY MADE IT SMELL NICER IN HERE.

ALSO, BEFORE WE CAN GET GOING WITH THE MEETING, I'M GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE CHIEF SAYERS FROM MISSAGA.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AT OUR MEETING.

>> NO, I'M NOT CHIEF, I'M LAND RESOURCES DIRECTOR.

>> YOU'RE LAND RESOURCES DIRECTOR, I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE CHIEF.

I APOLOGIZE. LAND DIRECTOR, SAYERS.

>> CHIBO IS THE CHIEF.

CHIBO IS THE CHIEF NOW. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

IS THERE ANY DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTERESTS THIS EVENING? ONCE, TWICE, THREE TIMES, SAY NONE.

ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES, 4.1, JUNE 27TH,

[4. ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES]

WE'LL ADOPT THE MINUTES.

IS THERE A MOVER? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR. THOSE ARE CARRIED.

READING OF RESOLUTION PASSED FALL IN CLOSED SESSION OF JUNE 27TH,

[5. PUBLIC INPUT SESSION]

>> THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP. MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, THAT PRIVILEGE BE WAIVED ON A LEGAL OPINION OF JOHN MISGERAN OF AIRED [INAUDIBLE], LLP, AND THAT THE LETTER TO THE JUNE 23RD BE DISCUSSED IN OPEN SESSION.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, THAT THE REPORT OF THE CIO REGARDING COURT COST TOWARDS APPEAL FOR COUNCILLOR PEARCE CONFLICT INTEREST CASE BE RECEIVED, AND THAT COUNCIL CONTRIBUTE ZERO DOLLARS TOWARDS COUNCILLOR PEARCE'S LEGAL FEES.

>> THANK YOU. NUMBER 5, PUBLIC INPUT SESSION.

WE DID RECEIVE ONE LETTER FROM MR. EDO TIM BROOKE.

PREAMBLE, A NUMBER OF THINGS STRIKE THE EYE AND DISTINGUISH THE ENTRANCE BY THE ROAD TO ELLIOT LAKE FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES.

ONE, THE TRILINGUAL WELCOME SIGN, TWO THE TALL NUCLEAR EMBLEM.

THREE, THE MEMORIAL WATER FOUNTAIN.

FOUR THE MINERS MEMORIAL SITE, AND FIVE, EMPTY LOT, WHICH ONCE HOUSED A VITALLY IMPORTANT COMMUNITY SYMBOL OF RESILIENCE AND CREATIVITY VISITED AND ADMIRED BY RESIDENTS AND NONE.

THESE STAND OUT AMONGST THE USUAL CLUTTER OF FAST FOOD OUTLETS, GAS STATION, STRIP MALLS, AND WITH RESPECT TO HOTELS.

WHERE THE CITY REQUIRES DEVELOPMENT, IS IN THE CENTER OF TOWN TO SUPPORT EXISTING AND HOPEFULLY NEW VENTURES.

THE AESTHETICS OF ONTARIO AVENUE MERITS AUGMENTATION AND A HOTEL WOULD BE COMFORTABLE CONTRIBUTOR AND TAX SOURCE WHERE THERE WAS ONE BEFORE.

GIVEN THE PREVIOUS MOTION PASSED BY COUNCIL TO RESPECT THE 108 SITE, WILL CERTAIN COUNCILORS REVERSE THEIR DECISION IN THE INTERESTS OF THE TAXPAYER AND IGNORE THE HISTORY AND CULTURE? I BELIEVE STRONGLY AND OPTIMISTICALLY THAT NEW ART CENTER WILL COME AGAIN FROM MR. EDO TIM BROOKE.

THANK YOU GRATSI, MR. TIM BROOKE.

WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY OTHER REQUESTS FOR PUBLIC INPUT. I DON'T BELIEVE.

WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING,

[6. PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS]

WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. TRYING TO RECTIFY THAT.

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

>> YES, WE CAN, A LITTLE BIT LOW, BUT WE CAN HEAR YOU.

WE NEED THE VOLUME UP A LITTLE BIT AND NOW HAVE TO BE A SHARE SCREEN.

>> I'LL SHARE MY SCREEN [INAUDIBLE].

>> CAN I TRY AND TALK?

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I'M BEING VERY DIFFICULT TONIGHT [LAUGHTER]. THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

JUST A REMINDER FOR EVERYBODY, I AM JENNIFER SHAMBOI, I AM A PARTNER HERE AT BDO.

I ALSO HAVE WITH ME JANINE LAYTEN.

SHE'S GOING TO HELP ME OUT WITH THE PRESENTATION.

SHE'S A SENIOR MANAGER WITH BDO AS WELL.

WE'VE BOTH BEEN ON THE AUDIT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW.

WE'RE GOING TO GO TAKE YOU THROUGH A HIGH LEVEL THE AUDIT FOR 2021.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

JUST AS I'M GOING ALONG AND I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

THE FIRST THING WE'LL GO THROUGH IS THE ACTUAL AUDITOR'S REPORT.

THE AUDITOR'S REPORT IS WHAT BDO PROVIDES AFTER WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND DONE OUR AUDIT.

WHAT I'VE GOT HIGHLIGHTED HERE ON THE SCREEN IS THE TWO PARAGRAPHS THAT EVERYBODY SEEMS TO CARE THE MOST ABOUT, AND THAT'S THE OPINION PARAGRAPH THAT BDO PROVIDES AFTER OUR AUDIT IS COMPLETE.

THERE'S TWO PARTS TO IT.

THE FIRST PART OR FIRST PARAGRAPH GOES THROUGH WHAT WAS AUDITED, WHICH WAS THE CITY FOR THE YEAR ENDED DECEMBER 31ST, 2021.

THEN THE SECOND PART IS THE SECOND PARAGRAPH WHICH GIVES OUR ACTUAL OPINION, WHICH IS THAT THE ACCOMPANYING CONSOLIDATED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS PRESENT FAIRLY IN ALL MATERIAL RESPECTS, THE CONSOLIDATED POSITION OF THE CITY.

IT'S A CLEAN OPINION OR AN UNQUALIFIED OPINION, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE, SO THAT'S A GOOD THING.

THE AUDITOR'S REPORT GOES ON TO GO THROUGH THE BASIS OF HOW THE AUDITOR HAS COME UP WITH THAT OPINION.

IT GOES THROUGH SOME RESPONSIBILITIES OF MANAGEMENT AND THOSE CHARGED WITH GOVERNANCE.

THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE, IT ALSO CONTINUES ON AND GOES THROUGH THE AUDITOR'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

IT IS QUITE LONG THE AUDITOR'S REPORT NOW, BUT LIKE I SAID, MOST PEOPLE JUST CARE ABOUT THOSE FIRST TWO PARAGRAPHS YOU WENT THROUGH.

IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS ACTUALLY GETS US INTO THE NUMBERS FOR THE CITY FOR THE 2021 YEAR END.

THIS IS YOUR STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL POSITION AND IT'S AS A GIVEN POINT IN TIME, DECEMBER 31ST, 2021.

IT ALWAYS STARTS OUT WITH THE FINANCIAL ASSETS THAT THE CITY HAS.

YOUR FINANCIAL ASSETS ARE ANYTHING THAT'S LIQUID AND CAN BE TURNED INTO CASH QUITE EASILY.

YOU CAN SEE THERE THE FIRST BOX THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED, THE TOTAL FINANCIAL ASSETS THE CITY HAD WAS $28, 458,000.

FOR THE MOST PART, THAT'S REPRESENTED BY TWO NUMBERS.

THE FIRST TWO LINES THAT YOU CAN SEE, THE CASH AND CASH EQUIVALENTS, $15 MILLION AND PORTFOLIO INVESTMENTS OF AT $11.2 MILLION.

THOSE ARE ACTUAL CASH IN THE BANK AND INVESTMENTS AT FAIR MARKET VALUE THAT THE CITY HELD AT DECEMBER 31ST.

YOU CAN SEE THOSE TWO NUMBERS ACTUALLY END UP WITH A $2.2 MILLION INCREASE OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

A LOT OF THAT IS DUE TO THE OPERATIONS OF THE CITY FOR THE YEAR AND SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH ON THE STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL POSITION, SOME OF THE OTHER FINANCIAL ASSETS THAT YOU CAN SEE LISTED THERE IS YOUR TAXES RECEIVABLE THAT HAVE COME DOWN AND MOSTLY PART AND PARCEL DUE TO COVID AND SOME OF THE RELIEF THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE AND YOUR INVENTORY IN MORTGAGES RECEIVABLES.

THOSE ARE THE FINANCIAL ASSET.

THE NEXT SECTION IS THE LIABILITIES.

WHO DID THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE OWE AT DECEMBER 31ST? YOU CAN SEE THERE, THERE WAS $10,534,000 OF LIABILITIES FOR THE CITY.

WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT TO THE SECOND COLUMN PRIOR YEAR, IT'S VERY COMPARABLE.

THERE'S TWO LINES THAT I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THAT

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THE FIRST-LINE I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH IS DEFERRED REVENUE.

IT'S THE THIRD LINE UNDER THE LIABILITIES, $2,933,000.

THAT WAS QUITE A BIT OF A JUMP FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

WHAT YOUR DEFERRED REVENUE IS IS THE AGREEMENTS AND CONTRACTS THAT YOU SIGN WITH YOUR VARIOUS FUNDERS, I SHOULD SAY.

THOSE AGREEMENTS REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN FULFILLED.

YOU HAVEN'T PURCHASED WHAT YOU HAD TO PURCHASE, BUILD WHAT YOU HAD TO BUILD, OR PROVIDE SERVICES THAT YOU HAD TO PROVIDE.

THOSE REVENUES THAT WERE RECEIVED IN THE 2021 YEAR END ARE GOING TO BE DEFERRED AND MOVED INTO THE 2022 YEAR END SO THAT THE AGREEMENTS AND THE CONTRACTS WITH THE FUNDERS CAN BE FULFILLED BY THE CITY.

THAT WAS THE FIRST LIABILITY THAT ACTUALLY CHANGED QUITE A BIT.

THE SECOND LIABILITY THAT CHANGED ACTUALLY QUITE THE MOST, IS YOUR ACCRUED LANDFILL CLOSURE AND POST CLOSURE COST.

IT'S THE SECOND LAST LIABILITY LINE, $1,642,000 UP ABOUT $500,000 FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

WHAT IS THIS NUMBER? WELL, THIS IS AN ESTIMATE ONLY AND IT'S AN ESTIMATE BASED ON THE ENGINEER'S THAT COME IN AND LOOK AT THE LANDFILL SITE AND DETERMINE THE COST THAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO CLOSE AND MONITOR THAT LANDFILL SITE WHEN IT'S PROJECTED TO CLOSE IN 30, 35 YEARS.

THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ESTIMATES TO GO INTO THIS NUMBER.

REALLY THE MAIN THING THAT CHANGED DURING THE YEAR IS THAT INFLATION WENT UP AND BASED ON THAT INCREASED INFLATION, THE ACTUAL COST TO CLOSE THE LANDFILL INCREASED.

BUT AGAIN, THIS NUMBER IS GOING TO CHANGE EVERY YEAR BECAUSE IT'S AN ESTIMATE AND IT'S BASED ON BASICALLY THE CAPACITY THAT MIGHT CHANGE, THE INFLATION THAT MIGHT CHANGE, THE COST OF THE MATERIAL TO COVER THE LANDFILL MIGHT CHANGE.

THIS IS AN ESTIMATE THAT IS [LAUGHTER] ESTIMATED ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AS A LIABILITY.

THOSE ARE THE TWO MAIN LIABILITIES THAT CHANGE DURING THE YEAR.

IF YOU TAKE THE $20 MILLION, WHICH IS YOUR FINANCIAL ASSETS AND SUBTRACT THE LIABILITIES TO $10 MILLION, YOU END UP WITH THIS NET FINANCIAL ASSETS OF $17,924,000.

THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER TO HAVE BECAUSE IT'S POSITIVE.

WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT THE CITY CAN PAY OFF ALL THE DEBT THAT IT HAS, ALL THE LIABILITIES WITH THE CASH INVESTMENTS AND ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE THAT CAN BE TURNED INTO CASH AND STILL HAVE ALMOST $18 MILLION LEFTOVER.

REALLY WHAT THAT REPRESENTS IS THAT YOU'RE NOT BANKING ON FUTURE REVENUES TO PAY FOR LIABILITIES THAT HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED, YOU'RE ALREADY ABLE TO PAY THOSE OFF AND STILL BE ABOVE BREAK-EVEN.

THAT GOOD. THEN THE LAST SECTION OF THE STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL POSITION IS THE NON-FINANCIAL ASSETS.

THESE ARE ASSETS THAT ARE GOING TO LAST LONGER THAN ONE YEAR AND THE MAIN LINE THERE IS YOUR TANGIBLE CAPITAL ASSETS OF $34.2 MILLION.

THESE ARE YOUR ASSETS THAT WILL LAST, LIKE I SAID, LONGER THAN ONE YEAR YOUR ROADS, THE SEWERS, THE BUILDINGS, YOUR HEAVY EQUIPMENT, YOUR VEHICLES, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

WHAT HAPPENED IN THE YEAR IS THE CITY ACTUALLY MADE ADDITIONS AND ROAD IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TUNE OF $5.2 MILLION SO THAT WAS ADDED TO THE TANGIBLE CAPITAL ASSETS BALANCE.

THEN THERE WAS ACTUALLY AMORTIZATION OR THE USE OF ALL OF THE ASSETS THAT THE CITY HAS THAT IS SUBTRACTED AT $2.7 MILLION AND THAT'S WHAT BRINGS US TO THIS TANGIBLE CAPITAL ASSET BALANCE OF $34.2 MILLION THAT GETS ADDED TO THE PREPAID AND SUPPLIES INVENTORY TO GET TO THE TOTAL NON-FINANCIAL ASSET BALANCE OF 34,792,000.

WHEN YOU ADD THAT TO THE NET FINANCIAL ASSETS NUMBER, WE END UP WITH THE ACCUMULATED SURPLUS OF THE CITY FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR AT DECEMBER 31ST, 2021 A 52,716,000.

JANINE IS GOING TO TAKE US THROUGH WHAT THIS NUMBER IS IN A FEW SLIDES.

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OUR NEXT STATEMENT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO END WITH THE SAME NUMBER, THIS ACCUMULATED SURPLUS OF $52 MILLION.

ANY QUESTION ON THAT STATEMENT OR ANYTHING THAT I WENT THROUGH? IF NOT, WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STATEMENT, WHICH IS THE STATEMENT OF OPERATIONS.

JANINE CAN TAKE US THROUGH HERE.

>> CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME OKAY?

>> YES.

>> YEAH.

>> OKAY.

THIS IS YOUR STATEMENT OF OPERATIONS SHOWING THE ACTIVITY FOR THE YEAR JANUARY TO DECEMBER 2021 IN THE MIDDLE COLUMN.

WE HAVE IT COMPARED TO THE BUDGET ON THE ONE SIDE AND THEN YOU'LL SEE LAST YEAR, 2020, ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

WHEN I'M QUOTING NUMBERS, IT'S ALWAYS THE MIDDLE COLUMN.

THE TOP PART OF THIS STATEMENT GOES THROUGH YOUR TOTAL REVENUE, WHICH YOU SEE IS 30.734 MILLION.

THERE ARE SOME NORMAL FLUCTUATIONS UP AND DOWN YEAR-TO-YEAR.

THERE'S A FEW WITH SOME LARGER CHANGES TO POINT OUT.

THE SECOND ITEM DOWN, YOUR GOVERNMENT GRANTS, PROVINCIAL.

THAT HAS DECREASED FROM 2020 BECAUSE 2020 INCLUDED ADDITIONAL COVID FUNDING FROM THE PROVINCE.

YOUR THIRD LINE DOWN, YOUR GOVERNMENT GRANTS, FEDERAL, IS UP IN 2021 BASED ON USAGE OF SOME OF YOUR FEDERAL GAS TAX MONEY.

JEN TALKED ABOUT KNOW THAT DEFERRED REVENUE LINE ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE.

SO SOME OF YOUR GAS TAX REVENUE IS STILL IN THERE, DEFERRED AND NOT SPENT YET, BUT BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE ROADWORK THAT JEN TALKED ABOUT, THAT FUNDING HAS COME IN THE PORTION THAT WAS SPENT THIS YEAR.

THEN THE LAST LINE THAT CHANGED LAWS, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, YOUR USER FEES AND SERVICE CHARGES.

AND 2020 HAD A LOT OF COVID IMPACTS AND WE HAD RECREATIONAL CLOSURES AND SO ON.

2021 HAS INCREASED SINCE LAST YEAR.

BUT OVERALL, WHEN WE LOOK AT TOTAL REVENUE, IT'S FAIRLY COMPARABLE YEAR-OVER-YEAR.

IF WE GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, WE'LL LOOK AT THE REVENUE BY TYPE OR BY SOURCE, IF YOU WILL.

IF YOU COULD SCROLL TO THE NEXT PAGE.

WE TAKE THE REVENUE THAT WE JUST LOOKED AT AND WE SPLIT IT OUT IN A VISUAL BY TYPE, SO THAT YOU CAN SEE ADEQUATE GLANCE WHAT YOUR LARGEST SOURCES ARE.

YOU'LL SEE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, THE BIG BLUE CHUNK OF THE PIE IS YOUR TAXATION OF 41 PERCENT AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THE NEXT LARGEST ONE, THE GREEN ONE, YOUR PROVINCIAL GRANTS AT 31 PERCENT, AND THEN YOUR USER FEES AND SERVICE CHARGES AT 19 PERCENT.

THOSE THREE TYPES TOGETHER MAKE UP ABOUT 90 PERCENT OF YOUR REVENUE.

THE MAJORITY OF YOUR REVENUE ARE FROM THOSE THREE SOURCES.

IF WE GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, WE'RE BACK TO THE STATEMENT OF OPERATIONS, BUT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE PAGE NOW.

SO YOU'LL SEE THE SECTION TITLED EXPENSES.

THIS SHOWS EXPENSES BY DEPARTMENT OR BY FUNCTIONAL AREA.

YOU'LL SEE THE TOTAL EXPENSES FOR 2021 ARE 27.754 MILLION.

WHEN WE LOOK LINE-BY-LINE OR DEPARTMENT-BY-DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE ALL FAIRLY COMPARABLE, NORMAL FLUCTUATIONS YEAR-TO-YEAR, WITH THE LARGEST INCREASE, IF YOU WILL, IN THE FOURTH ONE DOWN, YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES.

THAT DEPARTMENT IS WHERE THE CHANGE IN THAT LANDFILL CLOSURE LIABILITY THAT JEN TALKED ABOUT, THAT'S WHAT EXPENSE OR WHAT DEPARTMENT GETS HIT.

SO WHEN JEN TALKED ABOUT THAT LIABILITY OR THAT ESTIMATION INCREASING THIS YEAR, THE EXPENSE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES INCREASED BY THE SAME AMOUNT, THAT'S THE DEPARTMENT WHERE THAT EXPENSE LIES.

OTHER THAN ENVIRONMENTAL, THEY'RE ALL FAIRLY COMPARABLE.

THE SECOND LAST LINING INCREASED A LITTLE BIT, THE YOUR RECREATION A CULTURAL.

AGAIN, 2020 HAD SOME COVID CLOSURES.

OTHERWISE, THEY'RE ALL PRETTY COMPARABLE.

IF WE FLIP TO THE NEXT PAGE,

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BUT AGAIN, A VISUAL SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE LARGEST DEPARTMENTS OR AREAS FOR THE EXPENSES.

YOU'LL SEE THERE'S FOUR THAT ARE ALL ABOUT THE SAME SIZE.

THEY'RE ALL AROUND THAT 20 PERCENT MARK, WHICH ARE YOUR GENERAL GOVERNMENT, YOUR PROTECTIONS, SO YOUR FIRE AND POLICING, AND SO ON, YOUR TRANSPORTATION, AND YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL.

ALL FOUR OF THOSE ARE AROUND 20 PERCENT.

IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE LOOK AT EXPENSES AGAIN, BUT BROKEN OUT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

SO YOU CAN SEE ALL DEPARTMENTS COMBINED, WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF EXPENSES THAT WERE INCURRED? YOU'LL SEE SALARIES AND BENEFITS IN THE TOP-RIGHT CORNER, 34 PERCENT IS YOUR LARGEST TYPE OF EXPENSE THAT WAS SPENT DURING 2021.

THAT'S FOLLOWED BY TWO THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR.

YOUR MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES AT 21 PERCENT, AND YOUR CONTRACTED SERVICES AT 23 PERCENT.

THOSE THREE TYPES MAKE UP ABOUT 75 PERCENT OR A LITTLE MORE OF YOUR EXPENSES FOR THE YEAR.

>> AND JUST WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS, SOME PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY, "WELL, HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO PAST YEARS?" WELL, NO MATTER WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE, WHETHER THEY'RE HIGHER OR LOWER, FOR THE MOST PART MUNICIPALITIES ARE PROVIDING THE SAME SERVICES YEAR-AFTER-YEAR, AND THEY SHOULD BE COMPARABLE.

WHEN WE COMPARE THESE PERCENTAGES TO 2020, THEY'RE BEING ON LIKE SALARIES AND BENEFITS WAS 35 PERCENT LAST YEAR, CONTRACTED SERVICES WAS 22 PERCENT, MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES WAS 21 PERCENT.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME PERCENTAGES.

WE'RE SEEING THE SAME SPENDING BY THE MUNICIPALITY IN EACH YEAR, WHICH GIVES US [LAUGHTER] SOME COMFORT IN THE FACT THAT THERE IS THAT COMPARABILITY FROM YEAR-TO-YEAR, EVEN WITH THOSE FLUCTUATIONS OF EXPENSES AND REVENUE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET OUT.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. [LAUGHTER]

>> SO IF WE GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, WE'RE BACK TO THE STATEMENT OF OPERATIONS FOR THE LAST TIME, LOOKING AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE STATEMENT.

WE LOOKED AT OUR TOTAL REVENUE, 30.7 MILLION, OUR TOTAL EXPENSES OF 27.7 MILLION.

WHEN WE TAKE THE REVENUE, LESS THE EXPENSES, WE GET A LINE CALLED ANNUAL SURPLUS OF 2.98 MILLION.

WHEN WE ADD THAT TO OUR ACCUMULATED SURPLUS LAST YEAR, WE GET THE BOTTOM LINE THAT JEN SHOWED YOU ON YOUR FIRST STATEMENT, YOUR STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL POSITION, THAT 52.7 MILLION.

NOW, BOTH OF THOSE NUMBERS LOOKED AT JUST AS A TOTAL NUMBER DOESN'T PROVIDE A TON OF INFORMATION.

IF WE GO TO THE THE NEXT PAGE, WE BREAK OUT BOTH OF THOSE NUMBERS INTO MORE DETAIL.

THE TOP PART BREAKS OUT THE 52.7 MILLION INTO THREE MAIN CATEGORIES.

YOU'VE GOT YOUR RESERVES AT THE TOP, AND THERE'S DIFFERENT RESERVE TYPES, AND THOSE TOTAL RESERVES BROUGHT 23.672 MILLION.

THEN THE NEXT SECTION WE HAVE IS YOUR EQUITY INTANGIBLE CAPITAL ASSETS OF 33.8 MILLION.

THAT'S THOSE TANGIBLE CAPITAL ASSETS THAT JEN TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

YOUR 34.2 MILLION OF ASSETS, LESS ANY DEBT THAT'S OUTSTANDING THAT WAS INCURRED TO FINANCE THOSE ASSETS.

THEN THE LAST SECTION OF THAT TOP PART, YOUR ACCUMULATED SURPLUS, IS WHAT WE CALL UNFUNDED LIABILITIES.

THESE ARE LIABILITIES THAT ARE BEING PAID OFF OVER TIME.

THEY ARE FUNDED OVER TIME, WHICH IS REALLY ALL UNFUNDED MEANS, IS THAT IT WILL BE FUNDED OVER TIME AS THEY COME DUE.

SO THEN WHEN WE GO TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT PAGE, WE TAKE THE 52.7 MILLION OF THIS YEAR, WE COMPARE IT TO YOUR ACCUMULATED SURPLUS AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, AND THAT'S WHERE THAT 2.98 MILLION OF ANNUAL SURPLUS COMES IN.

YOU'LL SEE BASICALLY THAT THE NUMBERS BELOW, ARE THE CHANGE IN THE NUMBERS ABOVE.

THE RESERVES HAD AN INCREASE OF 407,000, AND THE RESERVE WITH THE LARGEST CHANGES WAS YOUR CAPITAL RESERVE.

THEN WE'VE SPLIT OUT THE OPERATING SURPLUS TO WORKING CAPITAL TRANSFER SEPARATELY.

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RESERVES IN TOTAL WENT UP JUST OVER $1 MILLION.

AND THEN YOU'LL SEE YOUR EQUITY AND TANGIBLE CAPITAL ASSETS WENT UP 2.2 MILLION FOR THE CHANGES THAT JEN TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

THEN YOU SEE YOUR UNFUNDED LIABILITIES CHANGED BY 303,000.

AGAIN, THE SAME THREE SECTIONS AS YOU SAW AT THE TOP, AND THOSE THREE SECTIONS ARE WHAT MAKE UP YOUR ANNUAL SURPLUS AND YOUR ACCUMULATED SURPLUS AT DECEMBER 31, 2021.

THAT'S IT, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? VERY WELL DONE PRESENTATION, VERY CLEAR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I DO HAVE A RESOLUTION FOR COUNCIL THAT CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE COUNCIL RECEIVE THE 2021 AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.

AGAIN, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, QUERIES? SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU AGAIN LADIES FOR THE GREAT PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GUYS.

>> HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. [NOISE].

6.2, PRESENTATION BY THE MISSISSAGI PARK FOUNDATION, THE EMERGING PARTNERSHIP TO OPERATE, MISSISSAGI PARK, I'VE COUNCILOR ED PEARCE AS THE CHAIR AND HE'S GOT SOME BACKUP WITH MR. GRACIA.

MR. TRUDEAU. GOOD EVENING, COUNCILLOR PEARCE LONG TIME NO SEE.

>> [LAUGHTER] YEAH, IT'S BEEN AWHILE, HASN'T IT? THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU.

YOUR WORSHIP AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

I'M GOING TO TRY AND WORK THIS.

MS. BRAY GAVE ME A QUICK THING.

I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO WORK. HERE WE GO. OH, THERE WE GO.

OKAY. AN OUTLINE, HISTORY OF THE PARK.

THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THEIR CURRENT SITUATION.

UPDATE WHAT THE FOUNDATION IS ALL ABOUT, WHAT OUR GOALS AND NEXT STEPS ARE.

OUR DEALINGS WITH ONTARIO PARKS AND THE PROVINCIAL BUREAUCRACY, WHICH GETS VERY INTERESTING.

WE'LL HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS AND FEEDBACK.

[NOISE] THE AREA WHERE THE PARK IS, INITIALLY IT WAS A HUNTING AND GATHERING GROUNDS WITH THE ANISHINABEK PEOPLES FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS.

IT ALSO, WHEN EUROPEANS ARRIVED, BECAME A LOGGING CENTER.

ANYBODY WHO'S FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, YOU CAN FIND LOTS OF EXAMPLES OF THE LOGGING THAT WENT ON UP THERE.

I BELIEVE THAT WE STILL HAVE QUITE A FEW PICTURES UP AT THE PARK SHOWING VARIOUS LOGGING OPERATIONS THAT WENT ON AND USING LITTLE WHITE AND MISSISSAGI RIVERS.

THE PARK WAS FOUNDED BY THE PROVINCE IN 1965 AND OPERATED SEASONALLY BY THE PROVINCE UNTIL 2013.

THE PARK IS DESIGNATED WAS DESIGNATED AND IS DESIGNATED A NATURE PARK, THAT IS TO SAY, THERE'S NO ELECTRICITY WITHIN THE PARK OTHER THAN THAT, WHICH WE NEED TO OPERATE, PUMPS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

IT'S ABOUT AS NATURAL AS YOU CAN GET WHEN YOU WANT TO GO CAMPING.

THERE ARE 87 SITES, ALTHOUGH I THINK IF YOU TALKED TO SARAH DIGGS, SHE'LL PROBABLY FIND YOU ANOTHER 20 MORE IF YOU REALLY LOOK FOR IT.

THIRTY ARE SEASONAL.

THERE ARE 40 SHORT-TERM RENTALS, SEVEN SO-CALLED BACKCOUNTRY, AND THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR MORE LOTS WITH RELATIVE EASE. TO PUT IT MILDLY.

YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE MICROPHONE, NOW YOU'RE GETTING MICROPHONE.

THANK YOU, TOM. WE HAVE TWO BOAT LAUNCHES WITH DOCKS ON FLACK AND SEMIWITE.

I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT THE DOCK ON FLACK IS NOT AS GOOD AS IT SHOULD BE.

WE GOT FUNDING TO PUT IN A FAIRLY DECENT DOCK ON SEMIWITE.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK ON PUTTING SOMETHING BETTER ON FLACK.

THERE ARE FIVE LOOPED HIKING TRAILS COVERING 55 KILOMETERS.

SOME OF THEM ARE RELATIVELY EASY AND SOME OF THEM ARE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.

WE HAVE LIMITED CELL SIGNAL AND NO HYDRO SERVICES.

LIMITED SELF-SERVICE, I THINK WHEN ROGERS WENT OUT, IT DIDN'T AFFECT THE PARK BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET ROGERS UP THERE ANYWAY. THERE YOU GO.

WE DO HAVE POTABLE WATER SUPPLY WITH THREE FILTER SYSTEM FROM CHRISMAN LAKE.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT TOOK A GREAT DEAL OF NEGOTIATING WITH THE PROVINCE, WHEN WE TOOK OVER.

THEY WERE ESTIMATING WAS GOING TO COST $1.2 MILLION.

WE DID IT FOR 30,000 AND CHARGED IT BACK TO THEM.

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THERE'S ALSO, AS IT WILL BE MENTIONED LATER, ON, A LOG CABIN ON CHRISMAN LAKE, WHICH WAS BUILT BY JUNIOR RANGERS.

THE JUNIOR RANGERS BUILT THE CABIN AS A PLACE FOR LEARNING AND FOR BASICALLY WHERE THEY COULD RELAX.

IT'S BEEN ALLOWED TO FALL INTO DISREPAIR, AND ONE OF OUR AIMS OVER THE FUTURE IS TO BRING THAT CABIN BACK.

[NOISE] THE PROVINCE ANNOUNCED THE CLOSURE IN THE FALL OF 2012 WITH NO NOTICE TO THE CITY OR ANYBODY IN THE AREA.

SINCE 2013, ELLIOT LAKE ASSUMED OPERATIONS AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR ALL OPERATING LOSSES AND CAPITAL INVESTMENTS.

WHICH IS A SORE POINT WITH EVERYBODY THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PARK.

MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE PARK SAYS, MINIMAL SUPPORT AND MAIN KEY IS ONTARIO PARKS RESERVATION SYSTEM AND SOME PARK WARDEN TRAINING.

NOT ENOUGH, BUT SOME.

THE RESERVATION OR COUNTER SYSTEM SYSTEM IS THE KEY REASON WE WANT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF CONNECTION WITH THE PROVINCE GOING FORWARD.

THE OPERATING LOSSES RIGHT NOW ARE THE CITY'S SOLE RESPONSIBILITY, AND ANY PROFITS WE SHOULD MAKE OR COULD MAKE, HAS TO BE SHARED WITH THE PROVINCE.

OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THEM ANY MONEY YET.

WE'RE OPEN FROM MAY TO OCTOBER SEASONALLY WITH TWO UNIONIZED SEASONAL FULL-TIME WORKERS, ONE SEASONAL FULL-TIME MANAGER, AND SEVERAL STUDENTS.

THIS NUMBER OF STUDENTS WILL FLUCTUATE DEPENDING ON AVAILABILITY.

FROM 2014-2019, WE AVERAGED ABOUT $57,000 IN ANNUAL COST.

BUT THE USAGE TREND WAS STEADILY IMPROVING BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.

IN 2021, THE AVERAGE OPERATING COST WAS $33,000.

THE PANDEMIC PROVIDED US WITH A HUGE INCREASE IN REVENUE, BUT OFFSET BY AN INCREASE IN WAGES.

THERE WAS A NEW UNION AGREEMENT WHICH GIVE MORE WAGES TO THE SEASONAL WORKERS.

IN 2014 TO '22 CAPITAL INVESTMENTS WERE MADE INTO PROPANE AND SOLAR POWERED SYSTEMS AND THE DOCKS, AND WAS FUNDED SOLELY BY THE MUNICIPALITY WITH SOME MINOR GRANTS FROM THE PROVINCE.

EXCUSE ME. [NOISE] OUR 2022 CAPITAL BUDGET, $30,000 REMAINS FOR THE LOG CABIN RENOVATION.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS THIS, BUT BACK IN THE DAY, THERE WAS AN ORGANIZATION CALLED PALS, WHICH WAS SET UP BY STEVE MEAWASIGE.

HERE'S A COUNCILOR FOR SERPENT RIVER.

STEVE AND I WORKED TOGETHER.

WE WENT TO NWMO.

WE'VE GOT FUNDING FOR THE CABIN, FOR THINGS LIKE CHAINSAWS, VARIOUS EQUIPMENT FOR THE CHILDREN, OR FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO COULD WORK UP THERE.

THE MONEY WAS PUT INTO IT, BUT THE MONEY WAS NEVER USED TO UPGRADE THE CABIN.

THE REASON FOR THAT WAS, AGAIN, WE RAN INTO A PROBLEM.

WE DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY.

WE CAN'T GET INSURANCE ON THE PROPERTY.

THE PROVINCE WAS SAYING WE HAD TO SPEND $1.2 MILLION TO UPGRADE THAT CABIN, WHICH WE THINK WE CAN DO FOR ABOUT 50 OR 60 TO MAKE IT TO THE KIND OF CABIN THAT WE WANT IT TO BE.

THIS ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE A PALACE.

IT'S A LOG CABIN ON THE LAKE. THAT'S ALL IT IS.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE PARK MOVING FORWARD.

IN 2016, THERE WAS A MEETING [NOISE], A MEETING WITH MISSISSAUGA AND SERPENT RIVER CHIEFS TO DISCUSS THE IDEA OF A PARTNERSHIP.

IT DIDN'T GO TOO FAR IN THE BEGINNING, BUT AT LEAST WE SET THE SEED FOR IT.

IN 2021, WE BECAME A FEDERALLY INCORPORATED MISSISSAGI PARK FOUNDATION, 13482685, CANADA FOUNDATION.

WE HAVE A SIX MEMBER BOARD, TWO FROM EACH PARTNER, ONE POLITICAL, ONE STAFF.

JACK TRUDEAU, COUNCILOR FROM SERPENT RIVER, WHOM YOU'VE MET.

TAYLOR COMMANDA, SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION WHO WAS POINTED AT THE END OF JUNE TO REPLACE WILMA BISSAILLION, WHO HAS LEFT HER JOB AT SERPENT RIVER AND NOW WORKS AT MISSISSAUGA.

DENISE BOYER-PAYETTE, WHO'S COUNCILOR WITH MISSISSAUGA.

STACY BISSAILLION FROM MISSISSAUGA FIRST NATION.

ED PEARCE FROM ELLIOT LAKE AND DANIEL GAGNON FROM ELLIOT LAKE.

PLUS WE HAVE TWO REALLY IMPORTANT RESOURCE PEOPLE, ONE IS KEITH SAYER, WHOM YOU'VE MET.

THE OTHER IS SARAH DIGGS, WHO WILL PROVIDE US WITH THE INFORMATION WE NEED AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

OUR ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION LAYOUT THAT WE WANT TO DEVELOP AND CONTINUE OPERATION OF MISSISSAGI PARK.

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WE ALSO WANT YEAR-ROUND OPERATIONS FOR OVERNIGHT CAMPING.

WE WANT TO TURN THAT CABIN INTO A CULTURAL LEARNING CENTER.

WE ALSO WANT TO SET UP AN ECOLOGY AND GEOLOGY CENTER.

WE WANT A PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE OTHER AREA PARKS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME VERY BRIEF DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM.

WE WANT TO DEVELOP AND PROVIDE ECO-FRIENDLY DAY TOURS AND DEVELOP AND PROVIDE CULTURAL EVENTS.

NOT NECESSARILY STRICTLY EVENTS FOR FIRST NATIONS, BUT FOR EVERYBODY WITHIN THE REGION.

OUR MISSION STATEMENT IS TO PROVIDE A TRUE WILDERNESS EXPERIENCE THROUGH THE PROMOTION OF ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION, CULTURAL EDUCATION, AND RECREATION.

OUR VISION IS TO MAKE MISSISSAGI ONE OF THE NORTHERN ONTARIO'S LEADING WILDERNESS PARKS.

OUR SHORT-TERM GOALS.

[NOISE] CURRENT PLAN CALLS FOR TRANSITION FROM THE CITY TO THE FOUNDATION FOR THE WINTER OF 2023.

SPECIFICALLY, AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2023, WE WANT TO BE SET UP AND RUNNING.

LOGISTICS FOR SETTING UP THE FOUNDATION SUCH AS BANKING, INSURANCE POLICIES, ETC, ARE IN THE WORKS.

WE NOW HAVE OUR OWN BANK ACCOUNT.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE MONEY IN THE BANK, BUT WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO TO GET THINGS WE NEED.

WE'RE SOURCING POTENTIAL GRANTS TO EASE OUR OPERATING COSTS AND ASSIST WITH TRANSITION.

WE'RE REFINING OUR BUDGET FOR 2023 AND SECURING FUNDING FROM PARTNERS.

WE'RE ADDING INDIGENOUS PROGRAMMING AND PERSPECTIVE WHEREVER POSSIBLE, WITH SPECIAL FOCUS ON EDUCATION AND TRADITIONAL USE OF LAND AND RESOURCES.

NOW COMES THE FUN PART.

WE'RE ABOUT TO NEGOTIATE A NEW AGREEMENT WITH THE PROVINCE THIS SUMMER.

WE HOPE TO HAVE THE OUTLINE OF THAT AGREEMENT BY SEPTEMBER OF 2022.

THE CURRENT MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY IS UNCHANGED SINCE 2013 AND NEEDS CHANGES TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW PARTNERSHIP.

THE CHIEFS AND THE MAYOR MET WITH THE MPP AND PROVINCIAL MINISTER OF PARKS IN FEBRUARY 2022 TO REMIND THEM OF THE NEED FOR CHANGES AND THE NEW PARTNERSHIP FOR NEGOTIATION.

THE MINISTER WAS RECEPTIVE, HOWEVER, PROVINCIAL ELECTIONS CAUSE DELAYS IN NEGOTIATIONS.

I COULD ALSO SAY, FRANKLY, THE BUREAUCRACY WASN'T SO HAPPY WITH THE IDEA, AND THEY'RE STILL NOT.

THE BASIC CHANGES THAT WE WANT TO MAKE AS WE SAID YEAR-ROUND OPERATION OF THE PARK, AND MANAGEMENT OF THE ENTIRE PARK, NOT SIMPLY THE PUBLIC CAMPING AREAS.

THE PARK ITSELF IS MUCH LARGER AND MUCH MORE IMPORTANT.

WE WANT LIMITED BUT STRATEGIC USE OF ATVS AND SNOWMOBILES IN AREAS IN AND AROUND THE PARK.

WE WANT TO ELIMINATE ANY THOUGHT OF PROFIT SHARING WITH THE PROVINCE.

WE'VE ALSO SAID TO THE PROVINCE, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THEY WERE QUITE PREPARED TO PULL OUT OF THE PROVINCIAL PARKS AND GO IT ALONE.

WE FEEL THAT IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE OUR TWO MAJOR PARTNERS ARE FIRST NATIONS AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO SO.

WE ARE QUITE PREPARED TO TAKE THAT ALL THE WAY UP THE LINE.

THAT'S ABOUT IT. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

WE HAVE A VERY INCREDIBLE BOARD.

THEY WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS.

WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT PARK.

I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.

>> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY AWESOME GETTING THIS PRESENTATION THIS EVENING WITH THE DETAILS OF FUTURE PLANS FOR THE OPERATIONS.

I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO YEAR-ROUND OPERATIONS WITH SOME TRADITIONAL EDUCATION GOING ON THERE, SO I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.

AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, ANYTHING THAT'S NEEDED TO HELP MOVE THIS ALONG, WE'RE HERE.

COUNSELOR MANN HAS A QUESTION.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

I THINK YOUR PRESENTATION IS REALLY KIND OF UNDERSTATING THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S GONE ON SINCE 2012 WHEN THIS ALL STARTED.

TO YOU AND TO THE COMMITTEE, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE.

I KNOW HOW YOU PERSONALLY FEEL ABOUT THE PARK.

I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THE PROVINCE DID NOT SEE AND LOOKED AT A BALANCE SHEET EXERCISE AND SAY WHICH PARKS ARE NOT PROFITABLE, AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO CLOSE THEM.

NOW WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH [INAUDIBLE] AND MISSISSAGI, WHICH I THINK GOES BEYOND THE PARK ITSELF, WHICH I THINK IS MORE IMPORTANT FOR THE REGION.

I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THAT, THAT'S CREATED.

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I THINK ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO CONTINUE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, SO THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNSELOR.

I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT MR. GAGNON WAS PUT IN ON THIS.

WE'VE PUT THEM THROUGH THE WRINGER ON A COUPLE OF [LAUGHTER] OCCASIONS, BUT HE'S ALWAYS MANAGED TO COME BACK WITH THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE NEED.

THE NEGOTIATIONS NOW ARE REALLY GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTING.

I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT. WE ARE HOPEFUL.

WE HAVE NOT YET FORMALLY HEARD BACK FROM ANYBODY AT THE PROVINCE, SO WE'RE HOPING WE WILL HEAR BACK FROM YOU SHORTLY, AND WE WILL KEEP COUNSEL ADVICE AS TO WHERE WE'RE GOING AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

>> COUNCILLOR, CYR.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY AT HOME AND MAYBE THEY'VE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE, BUT COUNCILLOR PEARCE, AND CITY STAFF, AND ALL THE PLAYERS, THE PARTNERS, HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS.

I WANT TO SHOW MY APPRECIATION AND EVERYBODY'S APPRECIATION FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.

IT'S FINALLY STARTING TO PAY OFF.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE ALL DONE, AND WE'RE ALMOST THERE. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

>> THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID SO FAR.

I WAS PART OF COUNCIL IN 2012 WHEN THIS ALL BURST OPEN AND YOU STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE BEING ASKED.

WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT AND ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE.

I'M HAPPY IN 2022, WE'RE AT WHERE WE ARE.

IN 2012, I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE'D GET THERE AT ALL.

IF THE PROVINCE WOULD FIRMLY CLOSE THE DOOR AND CEMENT IT SHUT.

I CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE THE DOOR KICKING IN AND EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS TO GET YOU TO THIS POINT.

IF YOU HAVE TO WALK AWAY FROM THE PROVINCE, THEN SO BE IT.

I HEAR NOTHING BUT GREAT THINGS ABOUT MISSISSAGI PARK.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAMP THERE, AND THAT GO THERE, AND THEY HAVE NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THE STAFF THAT WORK THERE AND ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE CAMP.

WE KNEW IN 2012 WE COULD NOT LOSE THIS RESOURCE IN THE NORTH IN OUR REGION, SO I THINK IT'S REALLY COMMENDABLE THAT EVERYBODY HAS STUCK IN THERE, ESPECIALLY SARAH DICKEY AND HER FAMILY.

THE SUPPORT THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN THE PARK HAS BEEN IMMEASURABLE AS WELL.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP FURTHER, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO EMAIL IT. I DON'T KNOW IF-

>> WE WILL BRING IT UP. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IF WE WILL BE IN MEETINGS.

BUT HOPEFULLY, IT'S ON THE LIST.

I'M NOT SURE THAT IT MATTERS WHEN WE GO TO EMAIL, AND WE TALKED TO PEOPLE, [LAUGHTER] BUT WE WILL KEEP MORE DOORS FOR YOU IF THAT'S WHAT'S NEEDED.

BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO BE.

I WELCOME OUR FIRST NATIONS NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE BECOME YOUR PARTNERS, AND I SEE ONLY POSITIVE THINGS IN THE FUTURE.

>> THANK YOU. YOU BROUGHT UP SOMETHING, AND I WOULD BE REMISS NOT TO MENTION PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL WHO WITHOUT HIS LEADERSHIP AT THE TIME, WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET THIS STARTED.

THAT WAS TOM FACKLER, WHO WAS THE HEAD OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS COMMITTEE, AND HE WAS THE ONE THAT TASKED ME WITH THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I SHOULD BE GRATEFUL OR NOT, BUT HE HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THAT IN THE BEGINNING. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILLOR TURNER.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. CONGRATULATIONS. [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING] THE BOARD SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD GROUP, AND IT'S GOT SOME CHALLENGES AHEAD OF US.

THE YEAR-ROUND OPERATION OF THE PARK WOULD BE CHALLENGING, BUT IT COULD BE REALLY INTERESTING, IT COULD BE EXCITING.

I RECALL BACK IN 2012 WHEN WE HAD THAT FIRST MEETING OVER THE TELEPHONE WITH THE PROVINCIAL AUTHORITIES AND BROUGHT THE IDEA OF TAKING OVER THE PARK THAT THEY SO QUICKLY DUMPED.

WE'VE COME A LONG WAY IN THAT 10 YEARS SINCE THEN.

I CONGRATULATE YOU AND THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR BRINGING IT TO FRUITION AS IT IS TODAY.

THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT I ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO DO ALL IT CAN TO AVOID HAVING TO BREAK AWAY FROM ONTARIO PARKS.

I BELIEVE THAT RESERVATION SYSTEM MAY HAVE IS VERY FINANCIALLY POWERFUL AND A GREAT BENEFIT TO YOU AT THE PARK.

I'M HOPING THAT IT'LL STAY PART OF ONTARIO PARKS, BUT LET'S SEE HOW IT GOES, LET'S LEAVE IT THERE.

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>> I SHOULD MENTION THAT PART OF OUR NEGOTIATING WOULD BE IF WE DO LEAVE, WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THE CANVAS SYSTEM BEHIND HIM.

WE WOULD BE PREPARED TO PAY THE PROVINCE TO ACCESS THAT SYSTEM IF THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

BUT WE'RE NOT SAYING DEFINITELY WE ARE LEAVING, BUT JUST SAYING, LOOK, THAT CARD IS ON THE TABLE AND IT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT, AND IT HAS TO BE RECOGNIZED BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO FAST NATIONS AND A MUNICIPALITY THAT ARE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH WITH THE PROVINCE AND AS MY FRIENDS HERE BEHIND ME WILL TELL YOU, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE DEALING AT A VERY LOW LEVEL AND THAT'S JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE.

WE HAVE TO BE DEALING WITH THE DEPUTY MINISTER OR A NO LESS THAN THE ASSOCIATE DEPUTY MINISTER BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD IN A PROPER MANNER.

>> LET'S GET THERE. THANKS, TURNER.

>> COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE BOARD.

THERE'S A LONGTIME COMING.

MOST OF IT HAS BEEN SAID.

I THINK IT'S VERY IMPERATIVE THAT MRS. DICKEY GETS A LOT MORE RECOGNITION THAN WHAT HAS BEEN SAID TONIGHT.

>> DO YOU REMEMBER THAT PRESENTATION?

>> I KNOW, MRS. DICKEY [LAUGHTER] FOR YEARS AND THIS IS HER HEART AND SOUL.

SHE ISN'T THE PUBLIC SUPPOSED PERSON.

THE BOARD HAS DONE A GOOD JOB AND GOTTEN WHAT THEY'VE GOTTEN WITH THE PROVINCE, WITH MUNICIPALITIES AND THE FIRST NATIONS.

I JUST SURE HOPE THAT THIS PARTNERSHIP CONTINUES IN KEEPING HER AS YOUR MANAGEMENT BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT'S DRIVEN THIS BESIDES YOU GUYS WORKING AS A BOARD.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL, I THINK I DON'T THINK ANYBODY CAN SEE MISSISSAGI PARK GOING FORWARD WITHOUT SARAH DICKEY BEING IN THERE.

IT JUST ISN'T POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW.

MY JOB WILL MAKE SURE TO KEEP HER NICE AND HAPPY AND KEEP HER THERE.

WE WILL DO THAT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE APPRECIATE YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN FOR COMING.

[7. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS]

>> SEVEN INTRODUCTION CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS 7.1 REPORT FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, [NOISE] READ 255 HIGHWAY 108,FORMER LESTER B. PEARSON CIVIC CENTRE.

RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL AMEND RESOLUTION 360-19 TO STRIKE OUT THE FOLLOWING FOR A NEW BUILD OF AN ARTS AND CULTURE CENTER AT THE EXISTING LOCATION OF 255 HIGHWAY 108 AND THAT STAFF BE DIRECTED TO START WORKING ON PLANS AND COSTUME FOR REDEVELOPMENT ON THAT SITE, [NOISE] THAT THE PROPERTY AT 255 HIGHWAY 108 BE DECLARED SURPLUS TO THE NEEDS OF THE MUNICIPALITY.

CAN I HAVE A MOVER FOR THIS PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, SECONDER COUNCILLOR TURNER THANK YOU.

[NOISE] COUNSELOR MANN.

>> THANK YOUR WORSHIP. I WOULD REQUEST THE INDULGENCE OF COUNCIL.

ITEM 10.1 HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT I WOULD SEEM TO BE PERTINENT TO THIS DISCUSSION AS WELL AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN COMBINE THE TWO.

THERE'S A LOT, INSTEAD OF GOING BACK-AND-FORTH IN THE AGENDA AND HAVING A DISCUSSION NOW AND AT LEAST HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS SOME OF MR. CARNEY'S UPDATE AS WELL.

UNLESS THAT'S OKAY WITH COUNCIL OR JUST IT MIGHT BE IRRELEVANT.

>> YES, AND SINCE THE 10.1 DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY RESOLUTION, IT'S FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES.

I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO INCLUDE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION AS NEEDED.

>> THANK YOU. [NOISE]

>> I WOULD ASK MR. ANTUNES IF YOU WOULD PLEASE AND THEN MAYBE MR. DANIEL CAN HIT SOME OF HIS MEMO ALSO. [FOREIGN].

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

SOME QUICK BACKGROUND TO CLARIFY THE AMENDMENT OF THE RESOLUTION.

THE MEETING HELD ON OCTOBER 15TH OF 2019, THE COUNCIL PASS MOTION 360-19 THAT HAD SAID COUNCIL APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE ELLIOT LAKE'S ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE ELLIOT LAKE NUCLEAR MINING MUSEUM BOARD FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE LESTER B. PEARSON CIVIC CENTER, FOR THE NEW BUILD OF AN ARTS AND CULTURE CENTER AT THE EXISTING LOCATION OF 255 HIGHWAY 108 AND THAT STAFF BE DIRECTED TO START WORKING ON THE PLANS AND COSTING FOR REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT SITE.

THE REQUEST IS FOR THE AMENDMENT OF THE SECOND HALF OF THAT MOTION BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO THE FIRST HALF.

SINCE THE PASSING OF THE MOTION IN 2019, VARIOUS DEVELOPMENTS ARE OUTLINED IN THE REPORT AND IN THE MEMO THAT COUNSELOR MANN MENTIONED AND REFERRED TO BY MR. GAGNON, THAT'S FURTHER ON IN THE AGENDA.

THEY'VE HAD A MATERIAL IMPACT ON THE ONGOING EFFORTS RELATED TO

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THERE ARE SEVERAL ISSUES AT PLAY SURROUNDING THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND STAFFS DESIRE TO SEEK DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

FIRST-OFF, THE ART CENTER, THE CITIES APPLICATION TO THE GREEN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY BUILDING GRANT.

THIS COUNCIL KNOWS WAS DECLINED EARLIER ON IN THE MONTH.

THIS WOULD HAVE APPLIED ROUGHLY $11 MILLION IN FUNDING TOWARDS THE $21 MILLION BUILD OF THE NEW FACILITY.

IN THE ABSENCE OF THIS GRANT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT WOULD NEED TO HAVE BEEN REVISITED WORLDWIDE, RECENT WORLDWIDE INFLATION MEANS THAT EVEN REMOVING THE GREEN COMPONENTS, WE ARE SEEING A PROJECT AT A CHALLENGING RATE TO FINANCE OF $19 MILLION.

WE DID SPEAK WITH OUR DESIGNER WHO DESIGNED THE PROJECT FOR US AND SAID THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY A 30-35 PERCENT INCREASE IN COSTING, WHICH IS WHAT WOULD BRING US UP TO THAT NUMBER.

THE CITY IS ALSO WORKING ON PLANS TO RENOVATE THE FORMER REEL TO REEL IN THE COMMUNITY.

THEREFORE, ULTIMATELY, THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT FOR THE NEW FACILITY WOULD BE POTENTIALLY LESS THAN ORIGINALLY PLANNED.

IN 151, ONTARIO, COUNCIL DID PASS A RESOLUTION IN APRIL THAT SAYS MOVING THE RACK FACILITY FROM THAT LOCATION TO THE CENTENNIAL ARENA SITE, THEREFORE OPENING A LARGE AMOUNT OF LAND IN THE CITY'S CORE.

THEN OF COURSE, THAT SERVES AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HOST OR TO BUILD SOME OR ALL OF CULTURAL ARTS AND FACILITIES REQUIRED THERE.

255 HIGHWAY 108, AS WE ALL KNOW, THAT IS THE LOCATION OF THE FORMER LESTER B. PEARSON CIVIC CENTRE.

IT'S VERY HIGHLY ATTRACTIVE AREA FOR VARIOUS USES, PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL ONES.

IT WOULD SERVE AS A PRIME LOCATION FOR A HOTEL.

STAFF HAVE BEEN APPROACHED THROUGH MY TENURE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ABOUT POTENTIAL SALE OF THE LAND.

AT THIS POINT, WE DECLINED FURTHER ACTION PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF PROPERTY WAS SUBJECT TO ESTATE AND GRANT APPLICATION.

IT WAS IN THE WORKS AT THE TIME UP TILL LAST MONTH.

THE OTHER REASON WAS THAT THERE WAS A STANDING RESOLUTION OF COUNSEL STATE IN THE PROPERTY WAS TO BE HOME OF THE NEW ART CENTER.

THE ARTS AND CULTURE HUB STEERING COMMITTEE THAT WAS HELD ON THE 24TH, THE COMMITTEE WAS PRESENTED WITH A LIST OF PROS AND CONS BY ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, MR. FINN, ABOUT MOVING THE ARTS HUB OFF THE LOCATION.

ULTIMATELY, THERE IS NO SPECIFIC DIRECTION FROM THE COMMITTEE TO HEAD FOR TO COUNCIL AS A RECOMMENDATION.

SOME OF THE FINANCIAL IMPACTS WITHOUT A FULL APPRAISAL, THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THE LAND REMAINS UNKNOWN.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, THEORETICALLY 255, WOULD HAVE A HIGHER RESALE VALUE THAN 151, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF SIGHT LINES, VISIBILITY.

IT'S RIGHT ON A MAJOR HIGHWAY AND IT HAS A FLAT CLEARED LOT, AS OPPOSED TO THE LOT THAT WE HAVE HERE AS FAR AS PARKING FOR A HOTEL AND OTHER COMMERCIAL USES.

THE REPORTS FOCUSED SOLELY ON THE VACANT LOT ON 108, AND ESSENTIALLY, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE LAND BE DECLARED SURPLUS AND POTENTIALLY SOLD TO CONTRIBUTE THE TAX BASE AND COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHILE EFFORTS CONTINUE ON A PARALLEL TRACK TO REPLACE THE LOSS ASSETS FROM THE CIVIC CENTER IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

STAFF FORESEE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON MOVING FORWARD, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

>> THANK YOU MR. ANTUNES, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO LET US KNOW HOW MANY INTERESTED PARTIES HAVE COME FORWARD ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.

I KNOW I'M AWARE OF A FEW MYSELF AND I'VE SPOKEN TO A FEW MYSELF, BUT FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT'S POINT.

>> I PERSONALLY HAVE SPOKEN TO TWO THAT HAVE HAD A FAIRLY SERIOUS VIEW.

MULTIPLE OTHERS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH TOWN DOING TOURS WITH POTENTIAL INVESTORS FOR DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.

EVERYONE SAYS, WELL THAT'S A PERFECT SPOT TO HAVE A HOTEL.

AGAIN, GOING BACK TO EARLIER ON IN THE NOTE, MY ANSWER WAS ALWAYS TWO FOLD.

ONE, IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF A GRANT APPLICATION AT THE TIME AND THE OTHER ONE OF COURSE, WAS THE STANDING RESOLUTION OF COUNSEL THAT IS TO BE OUR ARTS HUB.

BUT TWO VERY SOLID FOLKS THAT HAVE SHOWN INTEREST.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S A CONSTANT QUESTION OF ANY INVESTOR THAT COMES THROUGH TOWN AND DRIVES TO OUR DOWNTOWN.

>> THANK YOU AND JUST FOR CLARITY ON THAT, BECAUSE SOME HAVE MENTIONED, WHY DON'T YOU TELL PEOPLE TO BUILD DOWNTOWN? YOU DON'T TELL IT INVESTOR WHERE TO BUILD.

THEY'LL LOOK AT A LOCATION THAT WILL BE A GOOD RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT IF THEY'RE WILLING TO INVEST IN.

THAT'S BEEN THE ORDEAL SO THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR CYR?

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

IN GENERAL, AND I NORMALLY WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF SUCH A THING.

THE THING IS, THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW SHOVEL-READY SITES IN

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I JUST PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT THE 151 SIDE IS SUITABLE FOR AN ART CENTER.

ART IS SUPPOSED TO BE INSPIRING US.

THE NATURE OF ARTS, TO BE A DRAW FREE TO COMMUNITY IS TO INSPIRE PEOPLE FOR BEAUTY, FOR NATURE, THE SURROUNDING AREA ITS ALL PART OF THAT PARCEL.

IF YOU THROW THE ART CENTER JUST AT THE 151 SIDE, THERE'S NOTHING REALLY INSPIRING ABOUT THAT.

IT'S STILL A FUNCTIONAL AREA, BUT YOU LOSE THE WHOLE HALF OF THE IMPACT THAT YOU WANT.

I'M TORN WITH THIS.

I PREFER TO SEE US DECLARE 151 AS A SURPLUS AND MOVE ON AND DEVELOP THAT AREA BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT ON 151 WOULD PROBABLY BE HIGHER BECAUSE IT'S STILL NOT WITH ALL THE MOUNTAINS AND BLASTING STILL.

I'M NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS.

I'D RATHER SEE OUR EARTH'S STAY WHERE IT IS.

IT'S OFF BY THE LAKE, IS THERE TO INSPIRE PEOPLE.

THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON THIS.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK AFTER WE DO A LITTLE ROUNDABOUT, I'LL BRING UP ON COUNSELOR MANN'S REQUESTS AND HAVE MR. GAGNON GO THROUGH HIS PIECE BECAUSE IT ADDS A LOT OF CONTEXTS, COUNSELOR PATRIE.

[NOISE]

>> THANK YOU THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH COUNCILLOR CYR.

I HAVE A LOT OF OTHER REASONS TO ADD TO IT.

I THINK THAT OUR WELCOME CENTER SHOULD BE ON OUR HIGHWAY, NOT BLOCKS AWAY.

SOMEBODY'S COMING TO A HOTEL, THEY'RE GOING TO FIND A HOTEL.

WE HAVE A SITE READY THAT HAD OUR THEATER AND OUR MUSEUM IN IT.

I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT THEY'RE NOT BUILT.

I WISH WE'D HAVE DONE THIS ALREADY.

I WISH THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD HAVE HAD SHOVELS IN THE GROUND AND HAD SOMETHING STARTED.

IT HAS TO BE DONE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

IF YOU MOVE THE THEATER AND MUSEUM AND WELCOME CENTER TO 151 ONTARIO, THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN THE BANK FROM THE INSURANCE COMPANIES IS GOING TO BE SPENT ON GROUNDWORK.

WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT 151 ONTARIO IS ALL BEDROCK AND IT IS NOT SUITABLE FOR THE FACILITY THAT WE WANT TO BUILD EVEN IF WE SHRINK IT.

I GET IT, STAFF HAS TO COME BACK AND WE DO HAVE TO REWORK THIS AND GET SOME NEW REPORTS GOING ABOUT CHANGING THE SIZES AND SO FORTH, AND MAKE IT MORE PALATABLE AND AFFORDABLE BUT TO SELL THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE AN INVESTOR SAYS, WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE PALATABLE FOR ME TO BUY THAT LAND, TO PUT A HOTEL THAN IT IS FOR 151 ONTARIO.

LET'S LOOK AT IT FROM OUR SIDE AND THE TAXPAYER SIDE.

IF WE'RE GOING TO USE THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT COSTS MORE MONEY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET AN EXTRA THREE MILLION DOLLARS FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

I THINK THAT BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO THE TAXPAYERS, WE SHOULD LEAVE THE THEATER AND MUSEUM AND WELCOME CENTER ON THE HIGHWAY WHERE WE'VE ALREADY DECIDED TO PUT IT.

IF A DEVELOPER WANTS TO BUILD A HOTEL, HE'S GOING TO INVEST HIS MONEY AND IF HE'S GOT TO DO THE GROUNDWORK TO GET IT UP, THEN WE LET HIM SPEND THAT MONEY.

THERE'S ALSO OTHER LOCATIONS.

IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD A HOTEL, THAT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, BUT THE TAXPAYERS OWN THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY NOW AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE EXPANDING EXTRA MONEY TO MOVE.

WE'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE AND THAT'S THE ISSUE.

WE'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE SOMETHING THAT WE'VE LOST.

WE NEED THAT ASSET BACK IN THIS COMMUNITY AND WE NEED IT BACK SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, AND WE NEED IT BACK AS COST-EFFECTIVELY AS POSSIBLE.

I'M IN ABSOLUTELY NO WAY IN FAVOR OF CHANGING THE RESOLUTION THAT WE PUT FORWARD BEFORE AND LOOK FORWARD TO STAFF COMING FORWARD WITH REWORKING OUR WORK TO REBUILD THAT FACILITY IN A COSTLY MANNER.

LET'S GET BACK TO THE PROVINCE AND THE FEDS TO GET BACK INTO THE FUNDING AGREEMENTS.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS BEFORE I GET MR. DANIEL TO GO THROUGH HIS REPORT? MR. DANIEL, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GOING THROUGH.

>> THANK YOU, [INAUDIBLE].

MY MEMO WAS INTENDED TO FRAME THE DISCUSSION ON THIS.

HOW LONG COUNCIL DEBATES, THE 108 OR 151? YOU CAN TAKE YEARS IF YOU WISH.

THERE'S NO IMMINENT DESIRE PUSH FOR THAT.

THERE IS A DECISION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS LIKE THIS SUMMER AS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE REEL 2 REEL CINEMA THEATER BUILDING.

WHICH BRINGS UP LOTS OF THE CONCEPTS THAT ARE IN MY MEMO AND

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ONE OF THE CONCEPTS IS WE KEEP SWINGING FOR THE FENCES, PARDON THE SPORTS ANALOGY AND WE KEEP STRIKING OUT FOR THESE 15, $20 MILLION BUILDINGS.

WHILE WE KEEP DOING THAT, NOTHING IS HAPPENING IN THE INTERIM.

WE HAVE THE REEL 2 REEL CINEMA OPPORTUNITY.

WE GOT A GRANT FOR $750,000 FROM FEDNOR FOR AT THE TIME A $1.1 MILLION PROJECT.

THOSE ARE DECENT RATIOS.

NOW BECAUSE OF INFLATION, AS WE'VE SEEN, WE KNOW THAT THAT REAL TO REAL RENOVATION PROJECT WILL BE CLOSER TO 1.7 OR EIGHT AT THE MINIMUM AND COULD BE AS HIGH AS $2.5 MILLION.

WE NEED TO TENDER THE RENOVATION PROJECT FOR THAT THEATER THIS SUMMER.

IF WE HAVE A CHANCE AT POSSIBLY GETTING THE WORK DONE, WE NEED TO FIND OTHER PARTNERS FOR THAT REEL 2 REEL AND WE NEED TO REFINE OR CLARIFY WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF THAT REEL 2 REEL PROJECT.

THE ARTS FORMER TENANTS OF THE CIVIC CENTER ARE ASKING US, IS THE MOVIE THEATER A PERMANENT OR TEMPORARY LOCATION? THAT BRINGS UP LOTS OF OTHER QUESTIONS.

WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I SUGGEST THAT I DON'T THINK THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AND AFFORD TWO ARTS BUILDINGS.

WE USED TO SUBSIDIZE HEAVILY THE ARTS TENANTS IN THE CIVIC CENTER BECAUSE WE HAD THIS LARGE, OVERSIZED BUILDING, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAD IT AND IT WAS ALREADY IN PLACE.

WE ABSORB THAT COST.

IF WE DO THE REEL 2 REEL CINEMA, EVEN IF THE NUMBERS ARE 1.1 AND THEN WE ALSO LOOK FOR A BIG MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BUILDING, WE COULD END UP TRYING TO FINANCE THE OPERATING COSTS ON TWO LOCATIONS, WHICH WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC AND CHALLENGING FOR OUR FUTURE COUNCIL.

WE NEED TO REFINE THE SCOPE FOR THE REEL 2 REEL RENOVATION THIS SUMMER OR RISK GIVING THAT GRANT BACK OR FINDING OTHER PARTNERS.

IT COULD BE IN A CONCEPT IS WE HAVE FOUR MILLION DOLLARS IN THE RESERVE RIGHT NOW FROM THE INSURANCE RECOVERIES.

WE MAY BE BETTER OFF TRYING TO TURN THE REEL 2 REEL CINEMA INTO A PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR ALL STAKEHOLDERS OR THE PRIORITIZED STAKEHOLDERS AND SPEND THAT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS WITH GRANTS THAT WE ARE ACCUSTOMED TO ACQUIRING 750 HERE, A MILLION DOLLARS THERE, RATHER THAN CONTINUING TO TRY FOR THE $15-20 MILLION BUILDINGS WHICH WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY SUCCESS IN IN THE PAST 15 YEARS.

I'M NOT SURE HOW HOW OFTEN ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TRY.

THERE IS ANOTHER INTAKE COMING FOR THE GREEN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY BUILDING GRANT.

BUT AS MR. ANTUNES SAID, SPEAKING TO OUR DESIGNERS AND ARCHITECTS, IF WE REMOVE THOSE GREEN ELEMENTS, THOSE SAVINGS THAT WILL GET GOBBLED UP BY INFLATION.

WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT IN $19-21 MILLION BUILDING AND OR 50 CENTS FUNDING FROM THAT.

WE CAN CONTINUE TO TRY.

WE NEED THAT DIRECTION THIS SUMMER OR FALL FOR ANOTHER INTAKE, IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WISHES.

WE NEED TO TELL THE DESIGNERS THAT THE TENDER FOR THE REEL 2 REEL CINEMA.

WE NEED TO CLARIFY WHAT COMPONENTS ARE GOING INTO THAT CINEMA PROJECT IF WE GO AHEAD WITH IT.

WE ARE WAITING FOR COSTS.

IT'S UP TO COUNCIL WHETHER WE MAKE A DECISION THIS EVENING ON THE ONE-WAY PROPERTY BASED ON THE CONTEXT THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY, WE ARE EXPECTING REFINED COST ESTIMATES FROM OUR ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS IN THE NEXT FEW DAY.

PERHAPS NEXT WEEK OR THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING AS TO WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO RENOVATE THE DOWNTOWN ARTS CENTER TO ACCOMMODATE THE ARTISTS, THE 150 SEAT THEATER AND THE MUSEUM, BECAUSE THE CURRENT COMPONENT HAD ZERO MUSEUM SPACE WHATSOEVER.

WE WERE PRIORITIZING ART STUDIO SPACES OVER OUR OWN MUSEUM, WHICH IS STARTING TO BECOME CHALLENGING FOR STAFF UP TO COUNCIL, OF COURSE, TO DECIDE WHAT THE PRIORITY IS.

WE ARE UNDER SOME PRESSURE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE SCOPE OF THE DOWNTOWN ARTS CENTER.

REGARDLESS, WE ARE SEEING AND WE'RE JUST HIGHLIGHTING WHAT HAS BEEN THE TREND THAT IN OUR EFFORTS TO ACCOMMODATE THE FORMER TENANTS OF THE CIVIC CENTER, WE WILL CONTINUE TO NEED TO SUBSIDIZE TO A DEGREE OF APPROXIMATELY $100,000 A YEAR ON THE OPERATING BUDGETS IN FUTURE COUNCILS ONCE THIS BUILDING GETS BUILT, WHATEVER IT ENDS UP BEING, AT A MINIMUM A $100,000 WHICH IS CURRENTLY NOT BUDGETED, AND WOULD ADD MORE PRESSURE TO OUR NET BUDGET LEVY IN 2023 AND BEYOND. DID I MISS ANYTHING?

>> THROUGH [INAUDIBLE], THE ONLY TWO REPORTS LINKED TO EACH OTHER IS THAT IF THE INCREASED SCOPE OF WORK AT THE REEL 2 REEL SLASH DOWNTOWN ART CENTER,

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THEY WOULD STILL POTENTIALLY BE FUNDING TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY AND CAPABILITY OF COLLINS HALL.

WITH THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, WE COULD POTENTIALLY ADDRESS ALL OF OUR ARTS NEEDS IN A VERY SHORT ORDER.

IF THAT INDEED IS DONE, THEN LOOPING BACK TO MY REPORT ON 255 HIGHWAY 108, IF WE MAKE THE DOWNTOWN ART CENTER OUR FULL-TIME ART CENTER, WITH COLLINS HALL BEING OUR LARGER VENUE THEN 255 TRULY IS A SURPLUS SPOT.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT AND THE BREAKDOWN.

IF WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT HOUSING ALL THE ART STUDIOS, 150-SEAT THEATER, AND POTENTIALLY MUSEUM AT THAT LOCATION.

THAT DOESN'T STOP US FROM STILL PURSUING A LARGER 400-SEAT THEATER AND MUSEUM IN ANOTHER LOCATION AND CONTINUING TO HOUSE ALL THE ART STUDIOS AT REEL TO REEL.

WILL WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS COMING AS A BREAKDOWN OF EACH COMPONENT RATHER THAN JUST $19 MILLION FOR THE WHOLE THING BUT LIKE A BETTER COST BREAKDOWN FOR COUNCIL TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH AND TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS BEST FOR THE TAXPAYERS?

>> THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES.

WE ANTICIPATE IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS TO HAVE REFINED COST ESTIMATES OF THE RENOVATION OF THE DOWNTOWN ARTS CENTER MOVIE THEATER INTO THE COMPONENTS THAT WERE LOST FROM THE CIVIC CENTER.

WE ALREADY KNOW QUITE EASILY THE COST OF THE 19-$21 MILLION.

WE CAN PRORATE THAT BY COMPONENT QUITE EASILY, SO WE CAN PROVIDE THAT FUTURE MEETING.

THE QUESTION FOR COUNCIL IS, DO YOU WISH TO DO THAT AT A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING? DO YOU WANT TO DO IT TOWN HALL? DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING? I'M NOT SURE WHAT FORMAT WOULD BE THE BEST FOR COUNCIL TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS.

AGAIN, THE PRESSING DECISION IS THE SCOPE AND THE $750,000 IN GRANTS FROM FINAMORE THAT IS SOMEWHAT IN JEOPARDY.

THEY WOULD LIKE THAT MONEY SPENT BY MARCH 31ST OF 2023.

WE ALL WOULD LIKE THAT AS WELL.

WE STILL DON'T KNOW HOW TO SPEND THAT MONEY IN THE DOWNTOWN ARTS BUILDING AND WHAT COMPONENTS OF THE FORMER CIVIC CENTER WE CAN FIT INTO THAT BUILDING.

THEN THE CONCEPTUAL, AS I DISCUSSED RATHER THAN SWINGING FOR THE FENCES, DO WE TAKE OUR FOUR MILLION DOLLARS TO WORK WITH THE FUNDERS THAT WERE USED TO AND TRY TO FIND SOMETHING SHORT TO MEDIUM-TERM.

THEN YES, THERE IS NOTHING THAT PREVENTS A FUTURE APPLICATION FOR A 400-SEAT THEATER IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WISHES.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

>> YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU'VE TWO QUESTIONS BASED ON THIS.

AT THE CLOSED SESSION MEETING, COUNCILLOR TURNER ASKED ABOUT THE ACTUAL BREAKDOWNS FOR THE $100,000 WHICH IN THIS REPORT HAS GROWN TO 120-140.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO GET THOSE BREAKDOWNS.

ALSO FOR THE LAST TWO MEETINGS, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK WITH OUR INDIGENOUS PARTNERS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THAT HAS BEEN DONE YET.

>> THE LAST ONE FIRST, WE'VE SPOKEN TO [INAUDIBLE] FIRST NATION.

WE HAVE THEN GENTLY SPOKEN TO MISSISSAUGA FIRST NATION.

WE'VE INTRODUCED THE CONCEPT.

WILL WE HAVE ANY MEANINGFUL FEEDBACK FROM THEM THAT WILL HELP OUR IMMINENT DECISIONS? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. IT'S A LONGER-TERM PROCESS OF DISCUSSING WITH THEM WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE AND THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH BOTH FIRST NATIONS RIGHT NOW.

BUT WE HAVEN'T STARTED THAT CONVERSATION, YES.

THE BREAKDOWN OF OPERATING COSTS, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT AND BREAK THAT BY COMPONENTS.

YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE STUDIO, SPACE ARTIST VERSUS MUSEUM.

YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY BREAK THAT DOWN.

WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR MANN.

>> THANK YOU. YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES, FOR YOUR REPORT.

I GUESS I APPRECIATE SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ALREADY BY MY FELLOW COUNSELORS TONIGHT.

I NEVER TRULY LOOKED AT REEL TO REEL AS OUR ULTIMATE LONG-TERM PLAN.

I LOOKED AT IT MORE AS AN INTERIM MEASURE.

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IT WAS A PROPERTY THAT WE DID NOT GO OUT AND SEEK OWNERSHIP OF, IT FELL IN OUR LAPS.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD INVEST THE TYPE OF MONEY NECESSARY TO KEEP IT IN OUR INVENTORY, SHALL WE SAY? IT IS A OLDER STRUCTURE.

THERE HAS BEEN A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT PLACED IN IT TO DATE.

IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE AND AGAIN, IN A PERFECT WORLD THAT WE WOULD HAVE RECEIVED FUNDING, UNLIKE OTHER COMMUNITIES, AS YOUR REPORT INDICATES, THE 24 AND EXCESS MILLION DOLLARS AT NORTH BAY RECEIVED FOR THE SAME FUNDING THAT WE APPLIED FOR IT BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ALL DONE NOW.

IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE PARKING AS A MINIMAL EXAMPLE TO AN ACCESSIBLE PROPERTY INSTEAD OF THIS LAND-LOCKED BUILDING IN DOWNTOWN ELLIOT LAKE THAT'S GOING TO CREATE AND WE CAN CREATE THE PROPERTY AS ACCESSIBLE AS WE WANT.

WE CAN ADD ELEVATORS AND LIFTS AND DOORWAYS AND ALL THAT BUT WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PARK? ARE YOU GOING TO PARK AT 151 AND THEN WALK DOWN LARGE SETS OF STAIRS OR COME AROUND ON EITHER SIDE OF THE RAMPS DOWN? ARE YOU GOING TO PARK IN THE UPPER PLAZA AGAIN, STAIRS, MINIMAL PARKING IN FRONT.

I THINK WE HAVE TO TRULY REVISIT SOME OF THIS LONG-TERM, NOT NEXT WEEK BUT LONG-TERM.

YES, WE HAVE THE COLLINS HALL, UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S OBVIOUSLY BEEN DISCUSSED ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS OF DO WE REALLY NEED IT? LET'S GET RID OF IT.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE WHEN WE NEEDED IT AND I'M THANKFUL.

I'M GREAT. I'M THANKFUL WE STILL HAVE IT.

I REALIZED AS WELL, IT'S VERY CHALLENGING FOR STAFF TO TALK TO POTENTIAL INVESTORS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHEN THERE ARE STIPULATIONS ON PROPERTIES.

HOWEVER, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO EVEN RECEIVING AN UNSOLICITED OFFER FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT I STILL HAVE A RESOLUTION ON WHERE SOMETHING'S GOING TO BE BUILT.

WE'VE RECEIVED UNSOLICITED OFFERS BEFORE.

AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S MAYBE IT'S TOO SOON TO DECLARE ITS SURPLUS.

I GUESS THE FINAL PIECE REGARDING SUBSIDIZING THE ARTS COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IS NEEDS TO BE A FLUID DISCUSSION ON HOW THAT'S GOING TO PAN OUT.

CLEARLY, THE CIVIC CENTER PROPERTY WAS A VERY LARGE FACILITY AND WE HAD OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT LEVEL OF SUBSIDIZING BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SPACE THAT IS NOT THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S GOING TO GET REBUILT.

WE KNOW THAT AND WE JUST NEED TO FIND A MEANS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, THE ARTS COMMUNITY IS STILL IMPORTANT IN ELLIOT LAKE.

I THINK I'LL JUST STOP THERE FOR NOW. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR CYR.

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I AGREE WITH COUNCILLOR MANN WHERE TO MY UNDERSTANDING AND TO MY INTENT WITH THOSE CURRENT BUILDINGS BEING USED, THEY WERE JUST TEMPORARY.

I THINK IF WE JUST DO PIECEMEAL LITTLE SOLUTIONS FOR OUR ARTS COMMUNITY, THEN EVERYBODY IS WEAK AND NOBODY'S REALLY THRIVING.

THERE'S A TON OF ECONOMIC DATA THAT PROVED THAT INVESTING IN YOUR ARTS COMMUNITY RETURNS HUGE DIVIDENDS TO ECONOMICALLY TO A COMMUNITY IN THE LONG RUN.

PEOPLE UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF INVESTING IN YOUR ARTS COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO DRAWING, CITIZENS MOVING IN, THERE'S A HUGE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT COMMUNITY CAN BENEFIT BY PROPERLY INVESTING IN YOUR ARTS COMMUNITY.

WHEN YOU PUT LIPSTICK ON A PIG, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A PIG, AND PARDON THE EXPRESSION BUT I'M JUST SAYING I'D RATHER SEE ELLIOT LAKE INVEST LONG-TERM IN A BEAUTIFUL ARTS COMMUNITY CENTERPIECE THAN JUST HAVING SMALL PIECEMEAL SOLUTIONS EVERYWHERE THAT ARE ALL IN AGING BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD MUCH LUCK IN THE LAST 20 YEARS. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

>> MR. INTUNAS YOU HAD A POINT FOR COUNCIL MANN PROBABLY.

>> ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T QUITE GET IN AHEAD OF COUNCILLOR MANN.

IT WAS ACTUALLY AN ANSWER TO COUNCILLOR PATRIE'S QUESTION FROM BEFORE AS FAR AS THE OPERATING COSTS FOR THE REEL TO REEL.

IN DISCUSSION WITH THE ENGINEERS WHEN WE WERE THERE, THEY WORKED OFF OF A BASE COST OF OPERATING THE BUILDING PLUS AND THAT WAS THE ESSENTIAL, $100,000 NUMBER PLUS SOME OF THE EXTRA ITEMS FOR THE ARTS GROUPS, SUCH AS THINGS LIKE THE KILNS AND SOME OF THE OTHER MATERIALS THAT THEY'VE USED FOR OPERATING.

OTHER THAN A PER SQUARE FOOTAGE BREAKDOWN, SOME OF THE UNKNOWNS IS THINGS LIKE THE KILNS AND SOME OF THE OTHER HIGH DRAWERS.

THEY'RE WORKING OFF OF INFORMATION FROM THE EQUIPMENT ITSELF AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WHETHER IT GETS RUN ONE DAY A WEEK FOR

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THEY WORKED ON SOME ASSUMPTIONS.

I'LL LOOK FOR MR. GOLDEN.

DO NOT ASK ME IF I'M RIGHT OR WRONG.

ONE OF THE BASE COST WAS THE COST OF OPERATING THE BUILDING FOR HVAC AND BASIC LIGHTING AND JUST KEEPING THE BUILDING RUNNING AS A BASIS.

THEN SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL COST, WITH J CAN ONLY ASSUME BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A FULL COST BREAKDOWN OF SOME OF THE HYDRO EQUIPMENT.

THE SIMPLEST MATH WOULD BE TO SAY GROUP A USES 50 PERCENT OF THE BUILDING, GROUP B USES 25, GROUP C USES ANOTHER 25 TO MAKE 100.

BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED WITH THAT UNTIL THE GROUPS HAVE A FULL USAGE SPECTRUM OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING WITHIN THE BUILDING.

>> THANK YOU. I'LL GET BACK TO YOU.

LETS US A REBUTTAL TO COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

>> THANK YOU. WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YOU SAID THAT TO US IN THE CLOSED SESSION, THE ISSUE IS I WANT THOSE NUMBERS.

COUNCILLOR TURNER, I BELIEVE WAS 100 PERCENT CORRECT IN ASKING FOR THOSE NUMBERS.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.

I DON'T WANT PERCENTAGES, I WANT THAT REPORT.

COUNCILLOR TURNER WAS IN MY OPINION, VERY WISE TO ASK FOR THAT REPORT.

I WANT TO SEE WHAT IT IS.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT 100 OR WE'RE NOW UP TO 140.

THESE NUMBERS ARE FLUCTUATING.

I WANT TO KNOW THE BREAKDOWN AND I WANT TO KNOW WHY THEY'RE THERE.

IT'S NOT A BIG FACILITY, SO TO GET TO THOSE OPERATING COSTS BECAUSE THE ONLY TWO OPERATING COSTS ON THAT FACILITY SHOULD STRICTLY BE HYDRO AND HEAT.

THAT'S A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT REPORT THAT WE WERE TOLD WE WERE GOING TO GET.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BEFORE ANY NEW REPORTS OR BE ATTACHED TO ANY NEXT REPORTS THAT COME FORWARD ON THIS.

>> COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I GUESS I FIND THIS VERY FRUSTRATING THAT WE'RE STILL AT THIS POINT IN A DISCUSSION WITHOUT A DECISION BEING MADE.

THIS IS NOT A SIMPLE MATTER, IT'S ALL ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION.

WHAT IS THE FIRST PRIORITY? WHAT'S THE BEST DECISION FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY? TO HAVE A VIBRANT ARTS COMMUNITY IS INTEGRAL TO THE SUCCESS OF LIVING IN ELLIOT LAKE AND HAVING A SUCCESSFUL CITY AND TO HAVE HAPPY PEOPLE AND TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BECOME INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

BUT SO IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME IN AND BUILD AND ADD TO OUR TAX BASE WHICH GIVES US THE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE ARTS COMMUNITY.

IT'S A VERY COMPLEX DISCUSSION.

FOR ME, SITTING HERE, I WANT A MUSEUM.

WE HAVE A CURATOR, WE HAVE ARTIFACTS, WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE TO HAVE A MUSEUM OPEN TOMORROW, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO DO IT.

FOR ME, THE DOWNTOWN ARTS CENTER IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO ABSOLUTELY MOVE FORWARD.

THIS COUNCIL AGREED THAT WE WOULD GO AFTER THE FUNDING FOR AN ART CENTER.

SINCE THEN, WE FOCUS SOLELY ON REPLACING [NOISE] A PART, A PORTION OF WHAT WE LOST WITHIN THE CIVIC CENTER, AND THAT'S THE ARTISTS THEMSELVES.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO REPLACE ALL OF IT AND AS BEST WE CAN FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

DEALING WITH THE SPORTS HUB FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS, WE'RE BACK AT SQUARE 1 WITH THAT AGAIN.

I DON'T WANT TO BE DEALING WITH THIS FOR ANOTHER 15 YEARS FOR THE ARTS HUB, WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.

I THINK THE CHANGE IN DIRECTION HERE TO PUT THE MUSEUM DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW IS THE BEST DECISION THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN MAKE.

WHETHER IT'S PERMANENT, I DON'T KNOW.

I HAVE NO IDEA IF WE'RE EVER GOING TO GET FUNDING.

[NOISE] I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO TOTALLY FUND IT OURSELVES THROUGH TAXATION.

I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYONE IN QUEEN'S PARK AND LOOK AT US AND NOT SEE OUR NEED AND WANT TO HELP.

I JUST DON'T. I GUESS I'M JUST AT THAT POINT WHERE I'M FRUSTRATED.

I JUST DON'T GET IT.

I DON'T GET HOW THEY CAN JUST DECIDE WHO HAS A NEED THAT'S GREATER WHEN THE GREATER NEED ISN'T BEING SERVED.

THAT'S JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION ABOUT AT ALL.

AS FAR AS THE SITE ON HIGHWAY 108.

I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS TO ME AND I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

I KNOW IT MATTERS TO THE ARTS COMMUNITY AND I APPRECIATE AND I RESPECT THAT.

BUT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS TO THEM WHERE THIS IS BUILT.

I THINK THEY WANT IT BUILT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS.

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WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OUR RESERVES BEING NOT ENOUGH TO MAINTAIN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE BUILT.

I DON'T THINK AT THIS POINT THAT WE CANNOT AFFORD TO MAKE OUR LAND SURPLUS.

I THINK ALL THE LAND THAT WE HAVE SHOULD BE MADE SURPLUS.

THEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AS EACH LETTER OF INTENT THAT COMES FORWARD TO PURCHASE PROPERTY, WE HAVE THAT DECISION AT THAT TIME TO MAKE.

WE CAN WEIGH EVERYTHING AS TO WHAT DECISION WE'RE GOING AND WHAT IS COMING FIRST.

WE'VE GOT DEVELOPERS THAT WANT TO DEVELOP HERE.

THEY'RE GOING TO BRING MORE PEOPLE HERE.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO.

HOW'S THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT NEED HOUSING? BUT WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE THAT ROUNDED COMMUNITY IN ORDER TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

I DON'T THINK SAYING NO TO DEVELOPERS AND TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT'S A HOTEL, WHETHER IT'S A HOUSE, WHETHER IT'S A CAR LOT, WHATEVER IT IS, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD.

I'M REALLY AT A LOSS AS TO WHAT TO DO NEXT, BUT I THINK THAT THE MONEY THAT WE'VE GOT.

WE DID GET SOME MONEY FROM SOMEONE SAID YES, AND WE SHOULD NOT BE RETURNING IT FOR ANY REASON.

LIKE THAT'S JUST LIKE I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S I DON'T KNOW.

BUT ANYWAY, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT WE HAVE DECIDED DOWNTOWN ELLIOT LAKE.

I THINK IF WE SAVE THE $4 MILLION TO SIT IN A BANK AND WAIT FOR THE BIG BILL TO COME, I THINK IS A WASTED OPPORTUNITY.

THAT MONEY WAS PUT THERE TO REPLACE WHAT WE LOST.

LET'S REPLACE THE MOST OF WHAT WE CAN LOST.

WE DO HAVE COLLINS HALL, MAYBE WITHIN THAT $4 MILLION, THE NEW ARTS THEATRE THAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING AND SEEING PLANS FOR HAD A REMOVABLE RACKED SITTING.

THERE COULD BE EITHER GO UNDER THE STAGE OR CAN COME FROM BEHIND FROM A WALL THAT CAN BE DONE AT COLLINS HALL.

WE HAVE A FACILITY HERE THAT WE COULD BE USING.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S BOOKED IT TO HAVE ANY SHOWS IN IT.

WE HAVE CHAIRS THERE, WE HAVE A STAGE, WE HAVE LIGHTING, WE HAVE SOUND, WE HAVE BLACK CURTAINS AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYBODY HAS BOOKED IT TO PUT ANY SHOWS ON.

THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE DYING FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND WE DO HAVE A FACILITY.

LET'S USE WHAT WE HAVE, LET'S USE THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND LET'S START REBUILDING OUR COMMUNITY.

IF WE HAVE THE MUSEUM AND A NEW REEL TO REEL IN 1.5 OF IT.

WE HAVE ALL THE ARTS PEOPLE AND ARTISTS AND ARTISANS UP ABOVE FOR NOW.

I THINK THAT THAT'S A POSITIVE STEP FORWARD WHILE WE KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH WHAT WE NEED NEXT.

I KNOW THAT WHAT WE WANT IS WHAT WE WANT, BUT IT'S NOT ALWAYS WHAT WE NEED.

WE HAVE TO ALL WORK TOGETHER AND COMPROMISE AND I DON'T THINK AT THIS POINT I WANT TO COMPARE BETWEEN 108 AND 151.

I THINK THAT A BUILD EITHER DOWNTOWN OR A BUILD ON THE HIGHWAY IS GOING TO BE AN ADDITION TO OUR COMMUNITY.

WE'RE A VERY SMALL COMMUNITY.

IT TAKES YOU FIVE MINUTES TO GO FROM ONE END OF IT TO THE OTHER.

PEOPLE WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THE ARTS THEY'LL FIND WHERE IT IS.

PEOPLE WANT TO GO TO A HOTEL, THEY'LL FIND WHERE IT IS.

IF PEOPLE WANT TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE, THEY KNOW WHERE IT IS.

I JUST THINK THAT US BEING STUCK ON WHERE WE'RE PUTTING THINGS AT THIS POINT IS NOT MAYBE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

I THINK THAT I AM FOR MAKING THE PROPERTY ON 108 SURPLUS.

AS SOON AS WE GET AN ESTIMATED VALUE OF WHAT THAT PROPERTY IS, I THINK THAT I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT PROPERTY IS WORTH AND WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.

IF WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING AS SOON AS THAT INFORMATION COMES IN ONCE THE APPRAISAL IS DONE ON THAT PROPERTY SO THAT WE CAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MAKE SOMETHING SURPLUS AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VALUE IS.

BUT I JUST THINK WE NEED TO MOVE AHEAD.

WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION TO DO SOMETHING.

WE HAVE MONEY, LET'S USE IT.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT WE'RE LOSING OUR ARTS PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE AGING, BUT THEY WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE IT BUILT BEFORE THEY'RE GONE.

SORRY, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD OVER AND OVER, MR. FINN.

A LOT OF OUR PEOPLE

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I THINK THAT WE OWE IT TO THEM TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING AT THIS POINT.

IT MAY NOT BE EVERYTHING EVERYBODY WANTS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION AND MOVE FORWARD WITH RENOVATING THE DOWNTOWN, WHAT'D YOU CALL IT? THE DOWNTOWN ARTS CENTER AND REVITALIZE SOME OF THE DOWNTOWN CORE, AND MOVE AHEAD WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS THAT FLOWS THROUGH.

>> COUNCILLOR TURNER.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP. I THINK I AGREE WITH A LOT OF COUNCILLOR FINAMORE'S COMMENTS HERE.

I'M IN FAVOR OF DECLARING 151 ONTARIO AND 255 HIGHWAY 108 SURPLUS.

ANY OFFERS THAT COME IN ON THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL ANYWAYS; WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT AT THAT POINT IN TIME WE HAVE A USE FOR IT OR WE WANT TO SELL IT.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE HERE.

IT'S A GOOD IDEA. DECLARE IT SURPLUS, AT LEAST WE'RE MOVING.

COUNCILLOR FINAMORE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.

WE TALKED ABOUT RECREATION COMPLEX FOR THE LAST THREE AND HALF YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.

UNLESS I'M WRONG, THAT COMPLEX IS NOW NO GRANTS.

A LITTLE BIT OF GRANTS FOR THE POOL WHICH WE'RE FIXING AND WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING AN ARENA BACK WHERE THE OLD ARENA IS.

WITH NO FURTHER AHEAD WHEN IT COMES TO THE REPLACEMENT FOR THE PEARSON CENTER.

WE DO HAVE AN OPTION; WE CAN KEEP APPLYING FOR GRANTS BUT WE CAN'T GO BACK AND SIT IN OUR ROOM AND SUCK OUR THUMB JUST BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET THE GREEN INITIATIVES GRANT.

WE SHOULD HAVE THAT SECOND GRANT APPLICATION IN THERE ALREADY FOR THE CULTURAL SPACES.

IT SHOULD BE SITTING IN OTTAWA AND WE SHOULD BE ON THEIR CASE ASKING THEM, DID YOU RECEIVE IT? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED? THAT'S WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US TODAY.

ALONG WITH THAT COMPANY THAT WE HIRED TO FIRE OFF ANY GRANT ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY QUALIFY FOR THAT WOULD ASSIST IN THIS INITIATIVE.

FAILING THAT, WE HAVE ANOTHER OPTION.

WE CAN TAKE OUR FOUR MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH IS ABOUT 20 PERCENT OF 20 MILLION.

WE CAN GO DOWN TO THE BANK AND SAY, WE WANT TO PUT UP A $20 MILLION BUILDING, HERE'S OUR 20 PERCENT.

WHAT'S A MORTGAGE FOR 80 PERCENT COST? WE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITIZENSHIP IN ELLIOT LAKE IS WILLING TO SUPPORT THROUGH THE TAX LEVY.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ONE OF THE LOWEST TAX COMMUNITIES IN ONTARIO.

WE SIT FACING A SEVEN AND EIGHT PERCENT CONSUMER PRICE INDEX RISE.

YET WE RAISE TAXES 3.8 PERCENT, AND I'LL WALK AWAY THINKING, WE GOT AWAY WITH THAT ONE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO RAISE TAXES.

IT'S JUST LIFE. LET'S GET ON WITH IT.

WE EITHER TALK THIS THING TO DEATH OR WE CAN GET ON WITH MAKING SOMETHING HAPPEN.

I WANT TO KNOW EITHER THAT WE'VE GOT GRANT APPLICATIONS IN AND WE'RE WORKING HARD TO GET THAT OTHER 80 PERCENT; THAT OF OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT OR WE'RE GOING TO DO IT OURSELVES AND WOULD TELL OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, WE DON'T NEED YOU, AT WHICH POINT THEY'LL PROBABLY JUMP IN SO THEY LOOK LIKE HEROES AT THE LAST MINUTE.

JUST LIKE THEY DID IN SAULT STE.

MARIE RECENTLY. ANYWAYS, YOUR WORSHIP.

I'LL JUST SUM UP WITH I'M IN FAVOR OF DECLARING SURPLUS.

THE LAND AT 108 WHERE THE CIVIC CENTER WAS, AND ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, WE SHOULD THROW IN 151 ONTARIO AND HAVE THAT AVAILABLE. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THROUGH YOU.

I WANT TO COMMEND COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

I THINK THAT WAS AN EXTREMELY WELL-REASONED, WELL-THOUGHT-OUT COMMENTARY ON EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHERE WE HAVE TO GO.

I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH EVERYTHING SHE SAID,

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I HAVE VERY GOOD FRIENDS IN THE ARTS COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THE MUSEUM.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM.

THEY WANT SOMETHING AND THEY WANT IT TO HAPPEN NOW, AND I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.

I THINK THE IDEA OF DECLARING BOTH PROPERTIES SURPLUSES IS A VERY VALID ONE, AND I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT WE GO AHEAD WITH THAT.

WHY THERE ARE NO SHOWS BEING HELD AT COLLINS HALL? I DON'T KNOW. WE'D HAVE TO ASK PEOPLE THAT PUT ON THE SHOWS IN THE PAST.

THAT'S NOT UP TO COUNCIL OR CITY STAFF; WE DON'T DO THAT.

WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THIS.

WHETHER OR NOT THIS LOCATION IS PERMANENT IS NOT FOR US TO DECIDE TONIGHT.

WE CAN DECIDE THAT OR THE FUTURE COUNCILS CAN DECIDE THAT, WHEN WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA WHAT MONEY WE CAN GET.

I THINK THE ONLY WAY THIS COMMUNITY IS EVER GOING TO GET A GRANT FROM THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO IS IF MIKE MANTHA BECOMES THE LEADER OF THE NDP AND HE WENT TO THE GENERAL ELECTION.

OTHERWISE, WE WON'T GET A DIME.

IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

WE'RE NOT CONSERVATIVE, WE'RE NOT LIBERAL OR NDP, AND GUESS WHAT? WE AIN'T GOING TO GET IT. THERE YOU GO.

I WOULDN'T MIND LIVING IN SAULT STE.

MARIE WHERE THEY HANDED OUT WITHOUT EVEN ASKING.

BUT WE DON'T GET IT, AND WE WON'T GET IT.

LET'S DO WITH WHAT WE CAN LIKE WE ALWAYS HAVE BUT LET'S MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.

COUNCILLOR TURNER MENTIONED THREE AND A HALF YEARS OF DISCUSSION ON THIS.

I'VE BEEN AROUND FOR SIX YEARS AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT FOR SIX YEARS AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT FOR 10 YEARS BEFORE THAT.

IT'S TIME TO STOP THIS.

LET'S DO WHAT WE CAN DO.

LET'S MOVE AHEAD, AND FUTURE COUNCILS CAN DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO GO AFTER $20 MILLION OR IN THOSE DAYS IT'LL PROBABLY BE 30 OR $40 MILLION.

THAT'S UP TO THEM TO DECIDE, NOT US.

RIGHT NOW, WE NEED A PLACE FOR OUR MUSEUM, WE NEED A PLACE FOR OUR ARTISTS, AND WE NEED A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO PUT ON PLAYS AND DO THINGS THAT ATTRACT PEOPLE INTO THE DOWNTOWN CORE.

I THINK THE BUILDING IS IN A GREAT LOCATION, QUITE FRANKLY.

I DON'T THINK PARKING IS A PROBLEM IN THIS COMMUNITY.

YOU CAN GET ANYWHERE IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I HAVE DIFFICULTY WALKING, YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED ON OCCASION, BUT EVEN I CAN WALK FROM 151 DOWN TO THAT NEW THEATER.

IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. LET'S DO IT. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN, YOU HAD ANOTHER COMMENT OR WERE YOU JUST PLAYING WITH THE MICROPHONE? [LAUGHTER]

>> TRYING TO SUM THIS UP A LITTLE BIT.

I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH DECLARING BOTH SURPLUS.

JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE DECLARED SURPLUS DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO SELL IT.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING SOMETHING THERE, 100 PERCENT AGREE.

WE'VE BEEN FINAGLING THE RECREATION HUB, WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING.

EACH PROVINCIAL MINISTERS TOLD US FROM DIFFERENT PARTIES.

KEYWORDS THAT ARE HUBS NOW, YOU WANT TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING.

NOW BREAK IT DOWN INTO PHASED INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.

STILL NO FURTHER AHEAD, UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE SAME THING HAPPEN TO THE ART CENTER.

I DON'T AGREE THAT IT HAS TO BE ON THE HIGHWAY.

IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, RIGHT DOWNTOWN WOULD HELP THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN CORE BUSINESS SECTION AGAIN.

ANYTHING WE DO TO BRING IN LOCAL TALENT, ART SHOWS, THE ARCH ON THE TRAIL WHERE YOU HAVE TO FINAGLE RIGHT DOWNTOWN.

THAT'S GOING TO HELP ALL OUR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES, GET SOME FOOT TRAFFIC AND GET SOME NOTICE.

I'VE KNOWN MR. FINN SINCE I WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD.

I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN PASSIONATE ABOUT THEATRICAL ARTS.

I THINK THAT THE REEL-TO-REEL WOULD BE A GOOD PRACTICE SITE, AND I'D LOVE TO SEE A 400-SEAT THEATER BUILT INTO ANOTHER COMPLEX DOWNTOWN.

REALITY IS WE HAVE FOUR MILLION DOLLARS.

WE MIGHT GET TWO MILLION FROM NOHFC.

WE MIGHT GET MAYBE EVEN A MILLION FROM FEDNOR.

WE WANT TO SEE THIS BUILT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION AS COUNCILLOR TURNER SAID, GO INTO THE BANK AND SAYING, WHAT'S A MORTGAGE ON THIS OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS.

THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO SEE THIS HAPPEN.

WE NEED TO LOOK, ARE OUR TAXPAYERS WILLING TO TAKE A SIX PERCENT OR AN EIGHT PERCENT INCREASE IN TAXES TO SEE IF A FACILITY LIKE THIS GO UP.

I GUARANTEE YOU THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMUNITY WOULD SAY YES.

IS THAT DECISION BEING MADE TONIGHT? NO. WE'RE JUST ASKING WHETHER WE SHOULD DECLARE SOME PROPERTIES SURPLUS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS AND CONTINUE ON WITH THAT DISCUSSION.

WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO CALL FOR THE VOTE ON A ROLL CALL VOTE.

>> YOUR WORSHIP. I'D LIKE TO PUT A DEFERRAL ON THE FLOOR BEFORE THE VOTE IS CALLED FOR.

>> COUNCILLOR PATRIE IS PUTTING A DEFERRAL ON THE MOTION.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER THIS MATTER UNTIL AUGUST 8TH WHEN STAFF CAN BRING BACK THE REPORTS THAT THEY'VE REFERRED TO US ABOUT, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE WAY MORE INFORMATION FOR US TO KNOW ABOUT THE REEL-TO-REEL PROPERTY AND POTENTIAL GRANTS.

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THEY SAID WE MAY HAVE IT WITHIN A WEEK.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M WILLING TO DEFER IT TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

IF STAFF CAN SAY THAT THEY CAN GET IT TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, IF OTHERWISE, I'LL GIVE THEM TO THE SECOND COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE AUGUST 8TH.

I'M PUTTING A MOTION TO DEFER IT TO THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST, WHICH WOULD BE THE 8TH.

>> IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT DEFERRAL? SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR MANN.

MY ONLY QUESTION, COUNCILLOR PATRIE IS THIS RESOLUTION TO DECLARE PROPERTY SURPLUS AND GET AN APPRAISAL.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT GETTING THE ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL NUMBERS ON THE ACTUAL OPERATIONS OF THE ARTS HUB IS GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON DECLARING A PROPERTY SURPLUS.

>> ALL DUE RESPECT YOUR WORSHIP.

IT DOESN'T SAY IN THE RESOLUTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN APPRAISAL.

I THINK WE'VE JUST GIVEN DIRECTION TO STAFF TO GET THAT APPRAISAL.

THE ISSUE IS, I DON'T WANT IT DECLARED SURPLUS AND I DON'T WANT TO RESCIND THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION OF THIS COUNCIL UNTIL WE HAVE FURTHER INFORMATION FROM STAFF.

WE'RE TALKING TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS HERE AND SO WE SHOULD SPLIT THEM BACK UP.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THE REEL-TO-REEL, WHICH I THINK HAS TO BE BROUGHT TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING SO THAT STAFF CAN GET MOVING ON THIS.

I TOTALLY AGREE THAT WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE.

I DON'T WANT TO LOSE $750,000 IN GRANT MONEY.

WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO DO REEL-TO-REEL AS A PERMANENT OR A TEMPORARY FACILITY, WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT ANOTHER TIME.

I JUST WANT TO GET THAT MOVING FORWARD WHICH SHOULD COME FORWARD EITHER WE DEAL WITH IT AT THE NEXT ITEM OR AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO RESCIND THIS PREVIOUS RESOLUTION OF COUNSEL UNTIL THEY'RE BRINGING US MORE INFORMATION FORWARD.

IT WILL NOT HURT.

AS COUNCILLOR MANN SAID, THERE IS AN UNSOLICITED OFFER, IT CAN BE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL AT ANY TIME.

I WOULD JUST SAY LET'S WAIT UNTIL STAFF CAN BRING BACK THE REPORTS THAT WERE REFERRED TO.

YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE DECISIONS HERE ON A CONVERSATION WITHOUT REPORTS IN FRONT OF US WITHOUT TRUE NUMBERS.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE TRUE FACTS IN FRONT OF US BEFORE WE ACTUALLY MAKE THIS HARD DECISION.

>> MOTION REFERS ON THE FLOOR. MR. GAGNON.

>> [LAUGHTER] JUST A FEW IMPORTANT POINTS.

THE STAFF HAS ALREADY COMMISSIONED AN APPRAISAL OF THE PROPERTY, WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT YET.

WE'RE HOPING IN ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF US.

WE HOPE TO HAVE THE ENGINEER NUMBERS BY THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.

BUT WHETHER IT'S THE 25TH OR THE 8TH, EVEN IF IT'S DEFERRED TO THE 8TH, I IMAGINE IF WE'RE READY WE CAN BRING IT BACK OR WE MARRY IT TO THE 8TH, EVEN IF WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.

WE HAVE NO INTENTION WHATSOEVER TO BRING UNSOLICITED OFFERS TO COUNSEL EVER AGAIN FOR A PROPERTY THAT IS VAGUE.

WE NEED TO KNOW ITS SURPLUS AND COUNSEL IS WILLING TO ENTERTAIN AN OFFER, OTHERWISE, WE'RE WASTING STAFF TIME AND THE INVESTOR'S TIME.

WE NEED CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHETHER A PROPERTY IS POTENTIALLY FOR SALE OR NOT.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE DOING THAT AGAIN.

>> THANK YOU. DOES IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE?

>> NO, THE MOTION TO DEFER MUST HAVE A TIME AND DATE CERTAIN, BUT IF THE INFORMATION IS READY EARLIER, THEN THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

THEY CAN COME TO THE JULY 25TH MEETING IF WE HAVE IT.

>> OKAY. COUNCILLOR MANN.

>> YOUR WORSHIP, IF THAT DEFERRAL SAYS NO LATER THAN AUGUST 8TH COUNCIL MEETING THAT ALLOWS US TO COME FORWARD AT THE NEXT MEETING IF IT'S AVAILABLE.

>> IN MY MIND, I STILL DON'T SEE THE TWO AREN'T FULLY MARRIED AND CONNECTED.

DECLARING A PROPERTY SURPLUS DOESN'T REQUIRE NUMBERS FOR THE ARTS HUB, BUT I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE AND I WILL START TO, COUNCILLOR MANN.

>> I'M NOT SURE WHY WE NEED TO DECLARE IT SURPLUS IN ORDER TO GET AN APPRAISAL.

IF WE NEED AN APPRAISAL ON A PROPERTY, WE CAN GO OUT AND GET IT REGARDLESS OF THAT PROCESS.

>> THE STAFF HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR, THEY DO NOT WANT TO TAKE ANY OFFERS OR DISCUSS ANY OFFERS WITHOUT PROPERTY BEING DECLARED SURPLUS.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. HOWEVER, WE'VE JUST BEEN ADVISED THAT STAFF HAS GONE OUT TO REQUEST AN APPRAISAL ON THIS PROPERTY, DEPENDING ON HOW THIS VOTE COULD HAVE GONE TONIGHT.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN A DEAD ISSUE AND THERE WE'RE ALREADY SPENDING TAX DOLLARS TO GET A VALUE ON A PROPERTY RATHER THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH, THAT'S STILL IN OUR POSSESSION.

>> NONSTOP CHICKEN AND THE EGG.

>> WELL, YEAH.

>> ROLL-CALL VOTE ON THE DEFERRAL, COUNCILLOR PATRIE?

>> FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR MANN?

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR CYR?

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR TURNER?

>> FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR FINAMORE?

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>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR PEARCE?

>> I OPPOSE.

>> I'M OPPOSED, BUT THAT'S CARRIED.

THAT'S DEFERRED.

7.2 MEMO FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, A LETTER OF INTENT, OAKLAND BOULEVARD.

AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH THE POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OR DISPOSITION OF LAND OWNED, MS. BALDI MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION AS PER SECTION 239-2C OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT.

CAN I HAVE A MOVER TO PUT THAT CLAUSE, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR CYR.

SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.

QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO GO INTO A CLOSED SESSION.

IF YOU READ THE REPORT, IT'S A FULL OFFER OF OUR ASKING AMOUNT.

IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

BASED ON WHAT I READ IN THE REPORT, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY IT SHOULD NEED TO GO INTO A CLOSED SESSION.

>> AGREED. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE THEN. COUNCILLOR TURNER.

>> THANKS, YOUR WORSHIP. THE PURPOSE OF BRINGING THIS LETTER OF INTENT INTO CLOSED SESSION IS WHAT? DID WE LEARN THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE MAKING THE INTENT? [LAUGHTER]

>> ASK MR. GAGNON WITH THIS OFFER, IS THERE ANYTHING SUPER-SENSITIVE, OR CAN WE JUST APPROVE IT IN OPEN SESSION?

>> I SUPPOSE WE CAN IMPROVE IN OPEN SESSION.

THE ONLY CONCERN I GENERALLY HAVE IS, IS THE PROPONENT PREPARED TO HAVE HIS NAME DISCLOSED THIS EVENING, OR WAS HE EXPECTING IT AT A FUTURE TIME WHEN THE AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE AND SALE COMES TO COUNCIL? NOW, BASED ON READING THE ROOM IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE WE SHOULD WARN ALL OUR POTENTIAL INVESTORS THAT THERE'S A CHANCE THIS COULD BE OPEN AND DISCUSSED IN OPEN BECAUSE IT IS [INAUDIBLE], BUT GENERALLY IT IS COUNCILLOR PATRIE'S WRITING A FULL PURCHASE PRICE, VERY FEW COMPLICATING DETAILS, SO THAT'S COMFORTING, AND THIS PARTICULAR PROPONENT WE HAPPEN TO KNOW AS WELL.

THE RISK IS FAIRLY LOW, BUT WE'LL TAKE THAT INTO ADVISEMENT, MAKE SURE THAT FUTURE CLOSED SESSIONS THE INVESTOR IS WELL AWARE THAT THERE'S A CHANCE IT GETS DISCUSSED IN OPEN.

>> MR. ANTUNES.

>> THANK YOU. WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU, I DID HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT WITH THE PROPONENT.

HE WAS NOT EXPECTING HIS INFORMATION TO BE BROUGHT OUT INTO OPEN SESSION.

THERE IS ALSO A PORTION IN THE LETTER OF INTENT THAT DISCUSSES NEGOTIATING WITH COUNCIL ON A BUILT COVENANT THAT'S LISTED IN THERE.

AGAIN, THE PROPONENT WAS NOT EXPECTING HIS BUSINESS PLANS TO BE MADE PUBLIC AS OF YET.

>> THAT'S ALL. THE REASON I'VE TAKEN A CLOSER.

I'LL CALL FOR ROLL CALL VOTE. COUNCILLOR TURNER?

>> FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR FINAMORE?

>> FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR PEARCE?

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR PATRIE?

>> OPPOSED.

>> COUNCILLOR MANN?

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR CYR?

>> IN FAVOR.

>> I'M IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED TO CLOSED.

[NOISE] 7.3, MEMO FROM THE HUMAN RESOURCE COORDINATOR OR QP HIRING HR UPDATE.

[NOISE] AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH LABOR RELATIONS OR EMPLOYMENT NEGOTIATIONS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION AS PER SECTION 239D OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT.

MOVER TO PUT THIS IN CLOSED, PLEASE? BY COUNCILLOR MANN, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR CYR.

AGAIN, ANY QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? NONE, ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED TO CLOSED.

PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS,

[8. PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS]

REQUEST FOR A SIDEWALK LEASE,154 ONTARIO AVENUE.

COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

>> THANK YOU. YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU, AT THE JULY 4TH BILON PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED, THAT THE REPORT FROM THE DEPUTY CLERK AND ACCESSIBILITY COORDINATOR BE RECEIVED, AND THE LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AND JACK SKI AND BIKE SHACK FOR A PORTION OF THE SIDEWALK AT 154 ONTARIO AVENUE FOR THE PURPOSE OF A SEASONAL DISPLAY OF BICYCLES AND MERCHANDISE BE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AND PASSING OF THE APPROPRIATE BYLAW. I SO MOVE.

>> THANK YOU. SECONDER, PLEASE.

SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION?

>> I THINK I'LL TURN THAT OVER TO THE YOUNG LADY.

>> THANK YOU. YOUR WORSHIP, WE HAVE A REQUEST TO LEASE A PORTION OF 154 ONTARIO AVENUE.

THIS IS LOCATED IMMEDIATELY IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESS OF JACK SKI AND BIKE SHACK.

THE LEASE SHALL BE FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE SUMMER OPERATING SEASONS.

UNDER OUR CURRENT POLICY FOR CALCULATION OF LEASE RATE FOR THE MUNICIPAL PROPERTY, SEASONAL SIDEWALK LEASES ARE CALCULATED AT 50 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOTAGE, INCLUDING $105 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES PER OPERATING SEASON,

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WE ARE IN RECEIPT OF THE CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE NAMING THE CITY AS CO-INSURED.

FURTHER TO THE REPORT, FEEDBACK FROM THE BILON PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING HELD ON JULY 4TH, IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED THAT THESE MEASUREMENTS PROVIDED REFER TO A CANOPY AND IT DOES ALLOW FOR FIVE FOOT CLEARANCE ON THE SIDEWALK.

THEREFORE, THERE ARE NO ACCESSIBILITY CONCERNS.

>> PERFECT. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

>> THANK YOU. WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU, JUST TO FOLLOW UP.

BASED ON THE REPORT THAT WENT TO BILON PLANNING, THERE WAS SIDEWALK SPACE PLUS THE 10 BY 10 ON A 12-FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK.

IS THIS NO LONGER THE CASE? IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN THE REPORT THAT CAME TO BILON PLANNING? BECAUSE IF IT'S BICYCLES ON ONE SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK AND A 10 BY 10 ON THE OTHER, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE UP MORE THAN 12 FEET, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO LEAVE THAT REGULAR FIVE-FOOT ABATEMENT.

THE SIDEWALK, THE REPORT SHOWED THAT IT WAS 12 FEET, IS IT 12 FEET? I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

>> I BELIEVE WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS IT'S A 10 BY FOOT CANOPY, BUT THEY'RE ONLY USING FIVE FEET OF IT SO THAT THERE'S A FIVE-FOOT PASSAGE STILL FOR ACCESSIBILITY AS IS USED AT ONE OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES JUST FURTHER UP THE STREET.

>> THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

YES, IT IS THE 12TH FOOTAGE.

WE DID VERIFY THAT IT IS A CANOPY SO, THERE WILL NOT BE AN ACCESSIBILITY ISSUE.

IT'S THE SAME SETUP AS THE LIFESTYLE AND SPORTING GOODS STORE ON HIGHWAY 108.

THERE'S NO ENCROACHMENT OF THE SIDEWALK WHATSOEVER.

>> YOU GET A SHADED AREA ON THE SIDEWALK TO WALK UNDER? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? NONE. I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE THEN.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.

8.2, REFERRAL FROM THE BILON PLANNING COMMITTEE, MUNICIPAL PROPERTY LEASE AGREEMENT RENEWALS.

AGAIN, COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

THANK YOU. YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU, AT THE JULY 4TH BILON PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED, THAT THE REPORT FROM THE DEPUTY CLERK AND ACCESSIBILITY COORDINATOR CONCERNING MUNICIPAL PROPERTY LEASE AGREEMENT RENEWALS BE RECEIVED, AND THAT THE FOLLOWING LEASE RENEWALS BE APPROVED AND FORWARDED TO COUNCIL FOR EXECUTION.

ELLIOT LAKE AND NORTH SHORE CORPORATION FOR BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, LEASE CANOPY SPACE ALONG BOTH QUEBEC ROAD AND NOVA SCOTIA WALK, [INAUDIBLE] OPERATING AS OKAY.

TYRE ELLIOT LAKE, LEASE A PART OF THE UNTRAVELED PORTION OF A HIGHWAY KNOWN AS KILBOURNE WAY [INAUDIBLE] VACANT LOT AT 42 MCDONALD COURT FOR PASSIVE USE AND HAMPTON INN AND THE RETIREMENT LIVING MARKETING CENTER SPACE ON 108 FOR A BUSINESS SIGN AND I SO MOVE.

>> SECONDER. SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

AGAIN, SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION NEEDED.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. JUST VERY QUICKLY, AS COUNCILLOR PEARCE MENTIONED, THE FOUR LEASE AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

ALL THE LEASE AMOUNTS HAVE BEEN CALCULATED AS PER THE POLICY FOR CALCULATION FOR LEASE RATES AND WILL BE COLLECTED ANNUALLY.

IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE ATTACHED FOUR LEASE AGREEMENT RENEWALS AND THAT THE APPROPRIATE BYLAW BE PASSED FOR EACH.

>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NONE. I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE THEN.

ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED.

OUTSIDE BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTING, THERE IS NONE.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS, WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE CIOS MEMO FOR THE ARTS AND CULTURE UPDATE.

[10. UNFINISHED BUSINESS]

>> NO, NOT THIS EVENING.

>> PETITIONS, NONE CORRESPONDS.

[12. CORRESPONDENCE]

REQUEST TEMPORARY ROAD CLOSURE OF LISBON ROAD FOR THE FIFTH ANNUAL SOAPBOX DERBY.

PROPOSED RESOLUTION THAT COUNCIL AUTHORIZE THE TEMPORARY CLOSURE OF LISBON ROAD ON SATURDAY, JULY 23RD, 2022, FROM 8:00 A.M. TO 3:00 P.M. FOR THE FIFTH ANNUAL SOAPBOX DERBY, AND THAT THE APPROPRIATE BYLAW BE PASSED.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR MANN.

QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? NONE. BIG, OLD THANK YOU TO GENTLE SHEPHERD FOR DOING THIS EVENT FOR THE CHILDREN YEAR AFTER YEAR.

I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.

NO NOTICE OF MOTION.

COUNCIL'S REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[14. COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS]

I CAN'T REITERATE OFTEN ENOUGH HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS THAT WE SUPPORT OUR LOCAL FOOD BANK BECAUSE YOU'RE SMART

[02:00:01]

JULY 15TH TO 17TH IS THE DRAG RACE WEEKEND OUT AT THE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT.

THIS YEAR WE'LL ALSO BE INCLUDING THE ROYAL CANADIAN DRAGOONS.

WE'LL BE SETTING UP THEIR DOG AND PONY.

THE DRAG RACE IS BRINGING IN, I BELIEVE, ALIVE SIX.

I'M NOT SURE IF THE OTHER ONE WAS A [INAUDIBLE], BUT SOME BRAND NEW ARMORED EQUIPMENT, SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE IT.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE, BUT I'M SUPER STOKED TO SEE THIS NEW STUFF.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYONE OUT THERE.

THE MIRRORS CHALLENGE WILL BE TAKING PLACE, NOT SURE IF IT'S SATURDAY OR SUNDAY, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WE'LL BE JOGGING.

ARE THERE ROLLER SKATES, MR. DANIEL?

>> [OVERLAPPING] WE'LL FIND YOU SOMETHING WITH A MOTOR. I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.

WE'RE PENCILING IN SATURDAY, BUT EVERYTHING IS WEATHER DEPENDENT AND KNOCK ON WOOD AND HOPEFULLY, WE DON'T HAVE TOO MANY DELAYS, BUT WE'RE ALL, THE ENTIRE STAFF TEAM FROM MYSELF RIGHT DOWN TO SUMMER STUDENTS, ARE SEIZED WITH THIS EVENT AND WILL BE ONSITE DOING THE BEST WE CAN UNDER SOMEWHAT CHALLENGING CIRCUMSTANCES WITH INSURANCE AND CAPACITY AND VENDORS.

IT IS CHALLENGING IN A POST-COVID WORLD TO PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE WE WERE USED TO PRE-COVID FOR A WHOLE LOT OF REASONS, BUT WE ARE VERY EXCITED FOR THE EVENT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GOOD TURNOUT.

IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD TO GET BACK BACK ON THE TARMAC.

>> AWESOME. OUR NEXT EVENT IS JULY 23RD, WHICH WILL BE THE SOAPBOX DERBY BEING HOSTED BY GENTLE SHEPHERD CHURCH, WHICH IS LOCATED ON 3 AUTO AVENUE FOR THE SOAPBOX DERBY TAKING PLACE ON LISBON ROAD.

IT SAYS THEIR REGISTRATION BEGINS AT 09:30 A.M. AND THAT'S FUN FOR ALL AGES.

THEY ARE ALSO, I THINK, REQUESTING STEERING WHEELS OFF GT SNOW RACERS FOR THE SOAPBOX CARS.

JULY 30TH, 31ST IS AN OFFICIAL ELSS REUNION BEING HELD AT WEST VIEW PARK.

THE FESTIVITIES ON THE 30TH AND THAT'LL BE FOLLOWED BY A GOLF TOURNAMENT ON THE 31ST.

THAT'S ALL YEARS OF ALUMNI FOR ELSS.

AUGUST 1ST, LUMBERJACK DAYS BACK AT THE SOGGY PARK AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO ONCE AGAIN THE CHAINSAW THROUGH.

[LAUGHTER]

>> WE'LL GET YOU TO USE THE BIG ONE.

>> MORE ROLLER SKATES.

>> YEAH.

>> BEAUTIFUL. AGAIN, TICKETS FOR ALL CITY EVENTS THAT CAN NOW BE PURCHASED ONLINE ALONG WITH MORE DETAILS ON ALL CITY EVENTS AND FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON HOW TO VOLUNTEER OR BE A VENDOR AT CITY EVENT YOU CAN CALL 848-2287-2300.

IF YOU DON'T GET SOMEBODY LEAVE A MESSAGE.

AFTER SAYING THAT, I GOT TO DO THE THANKS AGAIN.

NOW WE'RE SEEING COMMUNITY EVENTS BEING HELD.

ONCE AGAIN, I GOT TO SAY THERE'S NO AMOUNT OF THANKS THAT CAN EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION FOR THE SMALL ARMY OF AMAZING VOLUNTEERS WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS, MANY OF THE SAME PEOPLE STEP UP TO BAT TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

BUT NOW WE'RE SEEING A WHOLE NEW GROUP OF PEOPLE STEPPING UP TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY AWESOME HOW MANY PEOPLE DONATE FUNDS OVER AND OVER, BUT IT'S JUST AS AWESOME TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE CONTRIBUTE THEIR VALUABLE TIME TO ENSURING THAT ELLIOT LAKE CAN CONTINUE SEEING WONDERFUL EVENTS TAKE PLACE, WHETHER IT'S CITY EVENTS OR SOCIAL GROUPS PUTTING ON EVENTS, THEY ALL MAKE ELLIOT LAKE A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE.

IT'S AMAZING BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH SO MANY OF YOU, ALL AGES, ALL WALKS OF LIFE, WE BECOME EQUAL, ALL SERVING THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

ONCE AGAIN, TO ALL OUR ELLIOT LAKE VOLUNTEERS ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL, A BIG, BIG THANK YOU.

WE LOVE YOU AND APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I ALSO HAVE TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES.

AS MR. GAGNON JUST MENTIONED, EVERYONE ON CITY STAFF GETS INVOLVED IN MAKING THESE EVENTS HAPPEN, SO A BIG THANK YOU TO OUR STAFF AND YOUR FAMILIES BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THAT AT THE STREET DANCE, SOME OF YOUR CHILDREN COMING OUT AND VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME AND GETTING INVOLVED ALSO.

I THANK YOU AGAIN, YOUR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION WELL BEYOND WORK SCHEDULES IS TRULY APPRECIATED BY EVERYONE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

I DON'T THINK YOU'D SEE THAT IN MANY OTHER PLACES.

ABSOLUTELY LOVE BEING ABLE TO GET TOGETHER ONCE AGAIN AFTER TWO YEARS OF HARDSHIP, ISOLATION, AND FEAR, SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO FOR US.

THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE COMING INTO ANOTHER BIG EVENTS, SO I'LL BE THANKING YOU AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS FOR ALL THE HARD WORK, [LAUGHTER] GOES ON THAT.

ADDITIONAL PIECES BEFORE I HIT THE BIG TICKET ITEMS, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP. I JUST WANTED TO ECHO YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE STREET DANCE.

PEOPLE WERE VERY EXCITED TO BE OUT AND JOIN THEMSELVES.

I GOT LOTS OF HUGS AND A FEW SLOPPY KISSES.

[02:05:04]

>> I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THE KISSES.

>> [LAUGHTER] PEOPLE WERE VERY EXCITED, AND I DID WANT TO MENTION FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS TO SUMMER STUDENTS, TO THEIR CHILDREN, THEIR WIVES, THEIR FAMILIES COMING OUT TO SUPPORT.

IT WAS AMAZING TO SEE.

HOPEFULLY EVERYONE THERE ON STAFF HAD A GOOD TIME AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED THE DANCE, THE MUSIC WAS GREAT.

THEY REALLY ENJOYED OUR LOCAL TALENT.

I HEARD AS MANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE LOCAL TALENT AS I DID ABOUT THE TALENT THAT WE PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR.

THANK YOU TO THE LOCAL TALENT FOR AT THE LAST MINUTE, STEPPING UP AS WELL.

SOMEDAY WE'LL GET EVEN WITH AIR CANADA.

I'M NOT SURE HOW, BUT YOU GUYS PULLED THAT ONE OUT OF THIN AIR AND GOT THEM HERE.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

I KNOW IT WAS VERY STRESSFUL TO THE TEAM TO BE ABLE TO GET OUR ARTISTS HERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE KNOWS, BUT THEIR PLANES WERE CANCELED, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF PRAYERS BEING SAID BETWEEN MIDNIGHT AND 6:00 AM ON SATURDAY MORNING THAT ONE OF OUR PERFORMERS WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GET ON A PLANE AND GET TO TORONTO, AND THEY WERE SCOOPED UP IN TORONTO AND DRIVEN UP HERE AND THEN GOT ON THE STAGE AND PERFORM.

GOD BLESS THEM TOO, BECAUSE I'M SURE IT'S A HECK OF A RIDE FOR ANYONE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE THE SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US SINCE COVID.

BUT THANK YOU AGAIN, IT WAS AWESOME TO BE THERE AND IT WAS A PRETTY EASY JOB.

IT WAS A LOT OF FUN AND I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S HARD WORK.

FROM THE CITIZENS OF ELLIOT LAKE, THEY REALLY ENJOYED THE SHOW.

EVEN THOSE THAT SAT ON THE FRONT STEPS AND LISTENED FROM AFAR, THEY REALLY ENJOYED THE SHOW.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE THE DEDICATION AND SACRIFICE THAT YOU-ALL MADE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

>> ABSOLUTELY. I WAS PREPARED TO THROW ON A SLIPKNOT MASK AND GET ON STAGE JUST IN CASE.

I THINK EVERYBODY'S THANKFUL THAT GEORGE CANYON JUST GOT HERE JUST IN TIME BEFORE THAT HAD TO HAPPEN.

ANY OTHER ADDITIONS TO OUR COUNCIL'S REPORT, MR. GAGNON?

>> QUICK FOLLOW UP TO COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

IT WAS ONLY BECAUSE WE KEPT GEORGE CANYON COOLING HIS HEELS BACKSTAGE, WAITING FOR THE SHED JAMMERS TO FINISH THEIR SET.

DID GEORGE CANYON HEAR, THE AMAZING COVER OF MY SHARONA, AND THEN LATER AS DEVIN O'GRADY ON STAGE TO PLAY A JOHNNY CASH COVERS.

>> THAT WAS AWESOME.

>> THAT WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE OF MR. CANYON AND OF OUR INADVERTENT PLANNING BY HAVING HIM HIS DOING THAT HE WAS ABLE TO HEAR SOME OF OUR LOCAL TALENT AND WAS QUITE IMPRESSED.

THAT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THE SHED JAMMERS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND A PLUG.

WE JUST ANNOUNCED TODAY THAT THE LARSEN PARK IS RETURNING SUNDAY, JULY 24TH AT 2:00 PM WITH A CONCERT FROM OLD BILLY BOB BOY, I THINK I SAID THAT RIGHT.

LOTS OF B'S. IT'S A FREE CONCERT 2:00 PM WEST VIEW PARK AND HAPPY AND THANKFUL THAT MS. COOK AND THE WRECK AND CULTURE DEPARTMENT ARE ABLE TO PULL THAT OFF.

>> JULY 24TH, LURKS IN THE PARK 2:00 PM, SUMMER LURKS. WE HAVE TO ADD SUMMER IN THERE?

>> I GUESS.

>> SUMMER LURKS IN THE PARK, 2:00 PM AND IT'S OLD BILLY BOB JOE BOY.

OKAY. YEAH. I THINK I SHARED THAT POST ALREADY.

ANY OTHER PIECES FOR COUNCIL'S REPORT? SEEING NONE, I'LL HIT THE BIG TICKET ITEM AND I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH A PLUS BEFORE I HIT THE MINUSES.

MR. NODE OF THE ELLIOT LAKE RED WINGS MADE THE FINAL PAYMENT OR 25,000 TO THE CITY.

I BELIEVE RETIRING THAT DEBT COMPLETELY AFTER EIGHT YEARS.

OKAY. BEAUTIFUL. GOOD NEWS STORY.

THANK YOU, MR. NODE AND THANK YOU, ELLIOT LAKE RED WINGS.

OUR BIG TICKET ITEMS GO TO RECEIVER GENERAL FOR CANADA AT 85,700.

ALGOMA DISTRICT SCHOOL BOARD, 254,300, GLOVEBOX ENTERTAINMENT, STREET DANCE ENTERTAINMENT WITH 31,300.

HERE ON SUPERIOR CATHOLIC SCHOOL BOARD AT 62,600.

BEND ENVIRONMENTAL MAY, JUNE, VARIOUS LOCATIONS, 32,900, HYDRO ONE, 52,500, MCDOUGALL ENERGY, REGULAR GAS, DIESEL, 40,300, MPARK 34,300, NORTHERN SEALANTS, ASPHALT CRACK SEALING 69,000 AL MOSS 47,900,

[02:10:02]

THERE'S NO ADDENDUM INTRODUCTION CONSIDERATION OF BYLAWS,

[16. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF BY-LAWS]

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.

16.2 BYLAW 22-70 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE ENTERING INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH AL MOSS, ENCROACHMENT OF CANOPY ASSIGN MOVER, MOVED BY COUNCILLOR CYR, SECOND, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

ANY QUESTIONS? QUALMS, QUERIES? ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.

16.3 BYLAW, 22-71 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE ENTERING INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH AV TIRE, OK TYRE, ELLIOT LAKE, MOVED BY COUNCILLOR CYR, SECOND BY COUNCILOR MANN.

AGAIN, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED.

16.4 BYLAW 22-70 TO BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE ENTERING INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT FOR 42 MCDONALD COURT MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED,16.5 BYLAW 22-73 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE THE ENTERING INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH NON-PROFIT RETIREMENT RESIDENCES OF ELLIOT LAKE FOR SIGNAGE ON A PORTION OF HIGHWAY 108, NORTH MOVED BY COUNCILOR MANN SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.

QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.

16.6 BYLAW 22-74 BEING A BYLAW TO TEMPORARILY CLOSE CERTAIN PUBLIC HIGHWAYS.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

AGAIN, QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? NONE. ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED.

16.7 BYLAW 22-75 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE ENTERING INTO A SITE PLAN CONTROL AGREEMENT, NO THAT'S GOT TO BE AFTER CLOSED SESSION.

>> NO.

>> NO?

>> THIS WAS AGREED TO THAT LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

THIS IS A SEPARATE PROPERTY ON OPEN BOULEVARD THAT WE APPROVED THE SITE PLAN CONTROL AGREEMENT AT THE LAST MEETING, AND THIS IS JUST NOW THE BYLAW TO ENTER INTO THE AGREEMENT.

>> WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON? A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON IN OAKLAND BOULEVARD. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL LET IT GO. BYLAW 22-75 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE ENTERING INTO A SITE PLAN CONTROL AGREEMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE DEVELOPER OF LAND AT 42 OAKLAND BOULEVARD, MOVED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR CYR.

QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU. CLOSED SESSION.

[17. CLOSED SESSION]

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.

ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED.

WE'RE NOW GOING INTO CLOSE.

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING AND WE'LL BE BACK SHORTLY.

WE'RE GOOD TO GO. CAN I HAVE A MOVER TO COME OUT OF CLOSED SESSION.

MOVED BY COUNCILOR MANN, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED.

WE'RE NOW BACK TO OPEN SESSION.

CONFIRMATORY BYLAW 18.1.

[18. CONFIRMATORY BY-LAW]

ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS?

>> ROLL CALL?

>> ROLL CALLS, STARTING COUNCILLOR TURNER?

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

>> OPPOSED.

>> COUNCILOR MANN.

>> IN FAVOR.

>> I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED.

A MOTION TO ADJOURN MOVED BY COUNCILOR MANN, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

WE'RE NOW ADJOURNED.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.