Jul 25, 2022 City Council

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>> [BACKGROUND] GOOD EVENING COUNSELLOR CYR.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

THE TIME IS 7:00 PM.

START BY RESPECTFULLY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT ELLIOT LAKE IS SEATED ON THE TRADITIONAL LANDS OF THE ANISHINAABEK PEOPLE, AND THAT WE'RE ALL PART OF THE ROBINSON-HURON TREATY ACT.

AS FAR AS ROLL-CALL, ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING.

I'D ASK IF THERE'S ANY DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

ONCE, TWICE, THREE TIMES, SEEING NONE.

FOR ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES,

[4. ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES]

QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES, ADDITIONS, DELETIONS? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE THEN.

ALL IN FAVOR? THOSE ARE CARRIED.

THANK YOU. FIVE, PUBLIC INPUT SESSION.

[5. PUBLIC INPUT SESSION]

I WOULD ASK OF THOSE FOUR INDIVIDUALS THAT WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM, MAKE SURE THE MICROPHONE IS ON.

STATE YOUR NAME AND THE ITEM NUMBER YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO.

WE DON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS ANYMORE, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY LOOKING FOR YOUR INPUT.

WE TRY NOT TO GO OVER, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 15 MINUTES IN TOTAL, SO THREE AND THREE-QUARTER MINUTES.

[LAUGHTER].

FIRST-PERSON I HAVE ON MY LIST HERE IS MR. NICHOLS.

MR. NICHOLS, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.

IT'S ALWAYS THE TOUGHEST SPOT TO BE MR. NICHOLS, EITHER FIRST OR LAST.

>> IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME THREE AND A HALF MINUTES IN THE PODIUM. [LAUGHTER]

>> YOUR TIME IS UP, SIR. THANK YOU FOR COMING.

[LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND] SORRY. IS THE MICROPHONE ON MR. NICHOLS?

>> IS NOW?

>> PERFECT. THANK YOU.

>> SEVEN POINT FOUR ON THE AGENDA.

I CAN'T FIND ANY REFERENCES THE COUNCIL HAVING GIVEN DIRECTION TO STAFF TO PROCEED TO OBTAIN EITHER THE DISPOSITION OF THE PROPERTY OR ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY.

I'M NOT EXPECTING AN ANSWER.

[LAUGHTER] BUT I DO RESPECT WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY IN REGARDS TO THE YEAR ON ROBINSON TREATY AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO MEN PAST GRIEVANCES AND ISSUES.

BUT I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH HOW COUNCIL PROCEED OR AGAIN, I'M NOT EXPECTING AN ANSWER ON THIS, BUT ARE COUNCIL NOT IN A POSITION TO GIVE DIRECTIVE TO STAFF TO PROCEED WITH REPORTS FOR THE DISPOSITION OF PROPERTY? WITHOUT EXPECTING AN ANSWER, I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING UP HERE.

[LAUGHTER] IT'S NICE SEEING YOU AGAIN.

>> YES, IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

>> YEAH. HOW BEST AM I TO RESEARCH THESE ISSUES?

>> WITHOUT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION BUT POSSIBLY ANSWERING IT, LANDS ARE SOMETIMES DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION AS A BULK DISCUSSION.

SOMETIMES THINGS COME OUT OF COMMITTEE MEETINGS ALSO.

AGAIN, ANSWERING WITHOUT ANSWERING.

BUT COUNCIL HAS APPOINTED MEMBERS TO A COMMITTEE THAT IS ESTABLISHED SIMILAR TO THE JOINT RELATIONS COMMITTEE OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE THAT IS A RELATIONSHIP BUILDER ENTITY BETWEEN SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATIONS AND ELLIOT LAKE.

THIS COMMITTEE, 100 PERCENT SURE, HAS BEGUN MEETING AGAIN.

AGAIN, TRYING TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS AND DO WHAT IS ETHICALLY RIGHT.

>> THE DOCUMENT ITSELF, 7.4 SPEAKS TO OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH FIRST NATIONS.

IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, HOW THAT WOULD FIT IN? WITHOUT YOU ANSWERING.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. MR. NICHOLS, ALWAYS A PLEASURE.

NEXT ON MY LIST, I HAVE DOUGLAS ELLIOTT.

I GUESS YOU DON'T HAVE TO STATE YOUR NAME.

I'M ALREADY STATING IT FOR YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. ELLIOT.

>> GOOD EVENING. YOUR WORSHIP, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

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TODAY IS AN HISTORIC DAY IN OUR COUNTRY'S JOURNEY OF RECONCILIATION WITH FIRST NATIONS.

THE DAY OF THE LONG-AWAITED PEOPLE APOLOGY TO SURVIVORS OF INDIAN RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS.

GREAT WRONGS HAVE BEEN DONE TO FIRST NATIONS IN THIS COUNTRY.

MANY PEOPLE IN ELLIOT LAKE MAY NOT REALIZE, BUT ONTARIO'S LARGEST RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL WAS LOCATED JUST DOWN THE HIGHWAY HERE IN SPANISH.

SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION RECEIVED LITTLE OR NO BENEFIT FROM OUR COPPER MINE OR URANIUM MINES.

DESPITE THE PROMISES MADE IN THAT ROBINSON-HURON TREATY.

I WANT TO STATE ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND OUR ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE FIND IT VERY SHAMEFUL THAT THE GOVERNMENT OF ONTARIO IS FIGHTING OUR FIRST NATIONS IN COURTS RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO DISHONOR THE PROMISES MADE IN THAT TREATY.

WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT BUT WE CAN CONTROL WHAT WE DO HERE.

NONE OF US CAN DO IT ALL IN THIS GREAT NATIONAL PROJECT OF RECONCILIATION BUT WE ALL MUST DO WHAT WE CAN.

WE IN CANADA'S 2SLGBTQI COMMUNITY HAVE A SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TWO-SPIRIT PEOPLE, OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS, WHO HAVE LIVED AND LOVED ON THESE LANDS FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE SETTLERS ARRIVED.

WE AT ELLIOT LAKE PRIDE AND NORTHERN ONTARIO PRIDE NETWORK ARE DELIGHTED THAT WE CAN BOAST OF THE BEST COLLABORATION WITH A LOCAL FIRST NATION COMMUNITY ANYWHERE IN CANADA, AS WE LEARNED DURING OUR PRESENTATION ON THE SUBJECT AT CANADA PRIDE IN WINNIPEG EARLIER THIS YEAR.

CHIEF BISSAILLION, A TWO-SPIRIT MAN HIMSELF SPOKE AT OUR TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION DAY EVENT LAST FALL, THE ONLY PROGRAM PRESENTED IN ELLIOT LAKE THAT DAY BY ANYONE.

I'M VERY SORRY THAT NO ONE FROM COUNCIL MADE IT TO THAT PROGRAM.

CHIEF BRENT STRESSED THE BENEFITS OF MUTUAL COLLABORATION BETWEEN ELLIOT LAKE AND SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION TO BUILD A BETTER AND MORE PROSPEROUS FUTURE FOR BOTH COMMUNITIES.

IT WAS A VISION THAT EVERYONE PRESENT FOUND QUITE INSPIRING.

WE HOPE TO WORK WITH SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION TO DEVELOP A TWO-SPIRIT RESOURCE CENTER IN ELLIOT LAKE TO SERVE ALL OF NORTHERN ONTARIO AND FRANKLY, PERHAPS ALL OF CANADA.

SUCH COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS ARE THE WAY FORWARD FOR US ALL.

THE LAND IN QUESTION IS NOT HELPING ANYONE RIGHT NOW.

LET'S PUT IT TO THIS VERY GOOD USE.

THANK YOU. [FOREIGN]

>> THANK YOU, MR. ELLIOT. NEXT ON MY SPEAKER LIST, I HAVE MIKE THOMAS.

MIKE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER]

>> DOUGLAS TOOK ALL THE TIME.

>> GOOD EVENING, MR. THOMAS.

>> EVENING, MR. MAYOR, I JUST NEED A SECOND.

I HAVE A REALLY BIG READER SCREEN IN FRONT OF ME NOW.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I WANTED TO SPEAK TO TWO ISSUES.

IT'S MIKE THOMAS FORGOT TO SAY THAT. I HAVE NUMBER 7.1.

IN READING THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA, IT SEEMS TO BE A MUCH BROADER SCOPE THAN IT WAS IN 2018.

I'M NOT ONLY SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF THIS EVENING, BUT ON BEHALF OF A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT ASKED ME THAT QUESTION THAT I DIDN'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO AND I FELT IT WAS BEST IF COUNCIL TO ADDRESS IT.

ONE OF THE SIGNIFICANT QUESTIONS, THAT I GOT AND I HAVE MYSELF AS WHY WOULD THE CAO NOT HAVE TO REPORT TO THE NEW COUNSEL POTENTIALLY UNTIL THE END OF THE FIRST-QUARTER 2023, WHEN THE LAME DUCK IS OVER AND THE NEW COUNCIL SWORN IN AND NOVEMBER 2022.

I WISH THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AND PUT IT TO BED SO THAT AS YOU'D LIKE TO SAY, THERE'S NO MORE DISINFORMATION.

MY NEXT TOPIC IS ITEM 7.4.

IT'S INTERESTING THAT THIS AGREEMENT WITH A CORPORATION WAS PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED IN A TRI-PART FASHION FOR MRS. SAGA PARK.

THE LANGUAGE IN THE MEMO READS MUCH THE SAME.

I BELIEVE THAT'S THE INTENT OF COUNCIL.

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I THINK THAT WOULD DO WELL TO SERVE BOTH OUR FIRST NATIONS BROTHERS AND THE COMMUNITY IF THAT WAS PROPERLY EXPLAINED.

THEN MY COMMENT TO FINISH THIS OFF.

AS IF RECONCILIATION AND DEVELOPMENT AND OWNERSHIP IS THE TRUE GOAL OF THE MUNICIPALITY.

THERE SHOULD BE A PARTNERSHIP INITIATIVE DISCUSSED ON ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS, INCLUDING THE SPINE ROAD DEVELOPMENT.

THIS WOULD FOSTER A SHARED INVESTMENT IN THE FUTURE OF ELLIOT LAKE.

IT WOULD FOSTER REAL OWNERSHIP AND PLANNING, DIVERSITY, AND CULTURE FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

IF WE'RE GOING TO INVOLVE OURSELVES WITH THE FIRST NATIONS, THEN WE SHOULD DO IT ALL THE WAY, NOT JUST ON A PIECE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, MR. THOMAS.

HOPING 7.1 WILL BE ANSWERED BY THE CLERK WHEN WE GET TO IT AND 7.4 WILL BE ANSWERED WHEN WE GET TO THAT ONE ALSO.

THANK YOU. LAST SPEAKER I HAVE ON HERE.

WILLIAM ELLIOTT, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, SIR.

>> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO ITEM 7.4 ON THE AGENDA.

I APPEAR BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IN MY ROLE AS GENERAL MANAGER OF L. NOSS, WHICH AS YOU ALL KNOW, IS A REGIONAL ECONOMIC AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION.

TWO OF OUR CONSTITUENT COMMUNITIES ARE SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION AND THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE.

I CAN TELL YOU IN THE 25 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN AT L. NOSS FOSTERING INTERREGIONAL COOPERATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PRIORITY FOR THE ORGANIZATION.

I KNOW THAT OVER THE YEARS THERE'S BEEN MANY ATTEMPTS WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, WITH DIFFERENT COMMITTEES TO TRY AND BRING FORWARD VARIOUS PROJECTS AND VARIOUS PROPOSALS THAT WOULD FOSTER THAT COLLEGIAL SPIRIT OF DOING THINGS TOGETHER FOR MUTUAL BENEFIT.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER IN 2016, L. NOSS HOSTED AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FORUM IN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE.

WE BROUGHT TO THAT FOR MY KEYNOTE SPEAKER FROM THE NATURAL LINEN STEVE, AND NORMALLY FIRST NATIONS FRIENDS FOR MY PRONUNCIATION, THEIR DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OR A FORT FRANCIS.

SOME OF YOU WILL REMEMBER 20 MARINARA.

I WROTE IT DOWN BECAUSE I ALWAYS CALL HIM 20 MARINARA FOR SOME REASON IT'S 20 MARINARA.

WHO WAS A 60-SCOOP KID FROM UP IN THE AREA.

HE CAME TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN THEIR AREA BETWEEN MUNICIPALITIES AND FIRST NATIONS AND ABOUT ALL OF THE SUCCESSES THAT THEY HAD HAD WITH THIS TYPE OF A RELATIONSHIP.

I THINK WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING HERE IS NOT SOMETHING NEW.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED IN A LOT OF OTHER PLACES VERY SUCCESSFULLY AND MAY BE NEW TO HERE.

BUT THERE'S A PROVEN TRACK RECORD.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TONY TALKED ABOUT AND I WROTE THIS DOWN WAS STRATEGIC BUSINESS PARTNERSHIPS AND LONG-TERM SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT.

AWAY FROM THE MORE PHILOSOPHICAL SIDE, BUT TO THE MORE PRACTICAL SIDE.

I THINK THERE'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY HERE.

I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

ON BEHALF OF ELEMENTS, WE ALSO SUPPORT THAT IDEA.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

>> THANK YOU, MR. ELLIOT. LOT OF COMMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION.

THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC INPUT.

SIX PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS THERE AREN'T ON THIS EVENING.

SEVEN INTRODUCTION CONSIDERATION, A CORPORATE REPORTS AND 7.1 REPORT

[7. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS]

THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF CLICKS AND PAINTING SERVICES REGARDING RESTRICTED ACTS, LAME DUCK, DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY PROVISIONS BE RECEIVED AND THAT THE CLERK BE DIRECTED TO PREPARE THE NECESSARY BY LAW PRIOR TO NOMINATION DAY AUGUST 19, 2022,

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NB, BE THE AUTHORITY TO REMOVE ANY STATUTORY OFFICER FROM OR TO EMPLOYMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, AND THAT THESE BYLAWS SHALL COME INTO FORCE ONLY IN THE EVENT WHEN DETERMINED BY MISSPOKE CLERK WITH CERTAINTY THAT LESS THAN 75 PERCENT OF THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WILL BE RETURNING TO SIT ON NEW COUNCIL AFTER NOMINATION DAY OF THE 2022 MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS. A MOVER, PLEASE.

>> MOVE TO RECEIVE FOR DISCUSSION.

>> THE MOTION TO RECEIVE THEIR SECONDARY TO RECEIVE COUNCILLOR MANN.

JUST FOR CLARITY, MOTION TO RECEIVE DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH THE PROPOSAL.

WE'LL HEAR THE REPORT FROM MR. DANIEL AND OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. MS. BRING.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

THE REPORT BEFORE COUNCIL THIS EVENING IS REGARDING THE RESTRICTED ACTS OF COUNSEL AFTER NOMINATION DATE, ALSO KNOWN AS LAME DUCK PROVISIONS.

UNDER SECTION 275 OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT, COUNCIL IS PROHIBITED FROM PERFORMING CERTAIN ACTION IN THE MUNICIPAL ELECTION YEAR, WHERE IT IS DETERMINED THAT THERE'LL BE A MATERIAL CHANGE IN ITS MEMBERSHIP DURING THE NEXT TERM OF OFFICE.

THIS IS REFERRED TO AS A LAME DUCK COUNCIL.

UNDER LAME DUCK, COUNSEL, COUNSEL SHOULD NOT TAKE ANY OF THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS BEFORE YOU JUST READ OUT.

AT THE TIME OF WRITING THIS REPORT, I CAN ADVISE THAT WE WILL FIND OURSELVES IN LAME DUCK AS OF AUGUST 19TH, AS LESS THAN SIX OF THE SEVEN EXISTING MEMBERS ARE NOT RUNNING FOR COUNCIL.

COUNCIL IS PERMITTED TO DELEGATE CERTAIN AUTHORITIES TO MAINTAIN OPERATIONS DURING ESTABLISHED LAME DUCK COUNCIL PERIODS.

HOWEVER, THIS DELEGATION IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO THE PERIOD COMING INTO EFFECT.

IT IS BEING RECOMMENDED THAT COUNCIL DELEGATE AUTHORITY IS THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER WITH RESPECT TO THE ACTION SET OUT IN SECTION 275 OR THE MUNICIPAL ACT AS A SAFEGUARD AGAINST ANY POTENTIAL GAPS.

THE BYLAW HAS A SUNSET PROVISION RENDERING IT NULL AND VOID UPON THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE INAUGURAL MEETING OF THE NEW COUNCIL.

WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST BEING MR. THOMAS SAYS SO THE REQUIREMENT TO REPORT ANY EXERCISES THAT HAVE BEEN DELEGATED UNDER THE AUTHORITY IS UNDER THE MUNICIPAL ACT, SECTION 275.

THAT SPEAKS TO THE RESTRICTED ACTS OF COUNCIL.

>> THANK YOU. MS. BRING QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

COUNSELOR PATRIE.

>> IF I MAYBE WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO THIS.

WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED AN EMAIL TODAY FROM OUR CAO STATING THAT THERE'S NOTHING ON THE RADAR THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY REQUIRE THAT.

I FORGET THE EXACT WORDING IN THE EMAIL, BUT THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE IF THIS IS NOT APPROVED TONIGHT.

THERE IS ALSO THE POSSIBILITY IF I'M CORRECT, I SPOKE TO THE CLERK IF ONCE CHEAP WORD AND AFTER AUGUST 19TH, YOU CAN REDO A LAME DUCK.

NO. I'D ASKED FOR HER CLARIFICATION ON WHAT SHE HAD EXPLAINED TO ME TODAY.

BUT JUST BASED ON THE EMAIL, I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD INTO DOING THIS.

WE RAN INTO SOME ISSUES AFTER THE LAST ELECTION AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE RUNNING INTO ANY ISSUES AFTER THIS ELECTION.

I JUST THINK IT'S MUCH SIMPLER IF WE DO NOT MOVE FORWARD.

THERE ARE AN AWFUL LOT OF RESTRICTIONS UNDER LAME DUCK THAT WE CAN'T REMOVE ANYWAY.

>> THANK YOU. THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THE COUNSELOR PATRIE.

I DID ADVISE THIS MORNING THAT WE COULD PASS THE ADDITIONAL BYLAW IN OCTOBER IF WE FOUND OURSELVES IN A LAME DUCK POSITION, BUT I WAS CORRECTED AS WE WILL BE IN LAME DUCK AS OF AUGUST 19TH.

ONCE YOU'RE IN LAME DUCK, THAT'S IT.

THIS BEILOCK CANNOT BE PASSED AGAIN, SO WE'D NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE PRIOR TO AUGUST 19TH IN ORDER TO DELEGATE THOSE AUTHORITIES.

>> JUST FOR CLARITY, MS. BRAY, WE'RE CURRENTLY WITHOUT A CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL.

POTENTIALLY IF WE DON'T PASS, THIS, WOULD BE LOOKING AT NOT BEING ABLE TO HIRE A CBO FOR I'D SAY UNTOLD A NEW COUNSEL SWORN IN UNTIL THE NEW YEAR BASICALLY.

>> YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHILE THE CAO DOES HAVE THE POWERS ALREADY TO HIRE AND FIRE MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES.

THE APPOINTMENT OF STATUTORY OFFICERS, WHICH INCLUDE THE CITY CLERK, THE CITY TREASURER, AND THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL, IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS DELEGATED TO THE CAO THROUGH HIS BYLAWS.

HE WOULD NEED THAT AUTHORITY DELEGATED TO HIM OR WHOEVER COUNCIL CHOOSES PRIOR TO AUGUST 19TH IN ORDER TO HIRE OR

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>> OKAY. COUNSEL FINAMORE.

>> THANK YOU. WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO THE CLERK.

MS. BRAY, IS THIS SOMETHING NORMAL THAT A MUNICIPALITY DOES PRIOR TO AN ELECTION? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S ABNORMAL WITH THESE REQUESTS?

>> MS. BRAY.

>> THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP. THIS IS QUITE NORMAL.

OUT OF THE 444 MUNICIPALITIES, THEY OFTEN DELEGATE AUTHORITY SO THEY CAN CONTINUE WITH THE OPERATION OF CITY BUSINESS.

>> I DON'T THINK IN 2018, WE HAD TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE HAD THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL RERUNNING.

BUT I BELIEVE IN 2014, WE DID DO THIS OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS.

I REALLY DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH IT.

I THINK THAT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT MUNICIPAL ACT SAYS THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT I DON'T SEE THE REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T DO IT.

>> IN 2018, AFTER NOMINATION DAY OF AUGUST 19TH, WE WERE NOT IN LAME DUCK AS ALL SEVEN MEMBERS WERE RUNNING FOR COUNCIL AGAIN.

BUT IN OCTOBER, WE DID PASS BYLAW 1842 AND DELEGATED ALL OF THESE AUTHORITIES TO THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER.

>> COUNCILLOR MANN.

>> THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP. I THINK MY REASONS FOR SECONDING FOR DISCUSSION ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN COUNSELOR PATRIE'S.

IN REVIEWING THE TWO SPECIFIC MATTERS.

I CAN'T SPEAK FOR MR. GAGNON THOUGH.

I DID SEE HIS HAND UP A COUPLE OF MINUTES AGO, SO I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S HIS INTENTION TO REMOVE ANY OF OUR STATUTORY POSITIONS, WHICH WE HAVE ONLY TWO CURRENTLY.

CLEARLY, INSTEAD OF GOING AHEAD AND MAKING ALL AMENDMENTS TO CHANGE THIS TO WHAT I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH.

THAT'S WHY SECOND COUNSELOR PATRIE'S RESOLUTION.

FILLING A VACANCY OF ITS STATUTORY POSITION.

I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH HOWEVER, AUTHORITY TO REMOVE.

I DO HAVE A BIT OF AN ISSUE WITH EVEN THOUGH I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S THE INTENTION TO DO SO.

THAT'S ON POINT B.

THE FIRST REGARDING THE FINANCIAL SIGNING AUTHORITY, WE DO HAVE PROVISIONS TO PURCHASE ABOVE SPENDING LIMITS IF THERE ARE EMERGENCIES.

THERE ARE WAYS TO CONTINUE THE BUSINESS OF THE MUNICIPALITY OVER AND ABOVE THIS LIMIT.

THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

IF THE BUDGET IS ACCURATE, WHICH I BELIEVE IT IS.

MAJORITY OF THE BUDGET PROCESS CAN STILL FLOW.

THERE'S NO NEED TO GO BEYOND THE BUDGET PROCESS.

I STILL BELIEVE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL.

THEREFORE, THOSE WERE MY ISSUES.

THE REMOVAL OF STATUTORY POSITIONS, SPENDING AUTHORITY ABOVE 50.

OF COURSE, IT'S QUITE OBVIOUS AND I HAD SEVERAL CALLS TODAY ABOUT IT.

DISPOSITION OF PROPERTY.

EITHER WE MAKE SOME FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS TO MAKE THIS IN A WAY THAT WE CAN LIVE WITH, WHICH THERE WOULDN'T REALLY BE MUCH LEFT, WHICH IS MY RATIONALE FOR MOVING TO RECEIVE.

>> JUST A QUESTION ON THAT.

YOU'VE BROUGHT UP. IF I MIGHT MISS BRAY.

IF WE RECEIVE AN OFFER TO SAY PURCHASE A PIECE OF COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY THAT EXCEEDS $50,000.

THE MUNICIPALITY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT DELEGATING AUTHORITY, OR WOULD WE BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SALE OF A PROPERTY?

>> THANK YOU. NO. IF WE RECEIVED AN AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE AND SALE AFTER LAME DUCK COUNCIL COULD NOT EXECUTE THAT AGREEMENT, PURCHASE AND SALE, UNLESS WE HAD SEEN IT IN ADVANCE OF THE LAME DUCK PERIOD.

ANYTHING WE RECEIVE AFTER AUGUST 19TH, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PROCEED WITH WHETHER IT WAS UNDER $50,000 OR NOT.

A MUNICIPALITY CAN CLOSE A REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION DURING THE LAME DUCK PERIOD ONLY IF COUNCIL PASSED A BYLAW APPROVING THE EXECUTION OF THE AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE AND SALE IN ADVANCE OF THE LAME DUCK PERIOD.

>> THAT WOULD PUT US IN A FOUR-MONTH PREDICAMENT THEN. MR. DANIEL.

>> IF I MAY, I JUST THOUGHT I'D CLARIFY A FEW ELEMENTS.

I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR TO COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT THE INTENT OF MY EMAIL WAS TO CLARIFY THAT I'M NOT LOBBYING FOR THESE SPECIAL SERVER OR DELEGATED AUTHORITY.

IT'S COMPLETELY COUNCIL'S CALL.

IT COMES COMPLETELY DOWN TO YOUR GUT FEEL ON THE RISK AND YOUR DESIRE TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY BAKED IN FOR THAT 90 DAY PERIOD.

IF YOU DON'T DELEGATE THE AUTHORITY, YOU HAVE NO FLEXIBILITY FOR UNFORESEEN LAND PURCHASES OR NON-EMERGENCY OPPORTUNITIES WORTH MORE THAN $50,000.

IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO COUNCIL'S CALL ON YOUR THRESHOLD OF WANTING TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY, I COULD HIRE A CBO, BUT THAT PERSON WOULD NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ACT AS

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YOU'D JUST BE AN EMPLOYEE PUSHING PAPER UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE INCOMING COUNCIL WOULD BE ABLE TO PASS A BYLAW TO APPOINT HIM OR HER TO THE CBO POSITION.

TO MR. THOMAS' POINT, THAT LANGUAGE, I SUPPOSE AS THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2023, BUT I THINK WE'RE MISSING.

THE POINT IS I STILL REPORT TO COUNCIL [LAUGHTER].

IT WOULD BE DAFT TO JUST GO AMOK.

I'M NOT GOING TO BE RUNNING AMOK.

IF COUNCIL DELEGATES THAT AUTHORITY, YOU WILL KNOW IN REAL TIME EXACTLY WHEN THAT AUTHORITY IS USED BECAUSE YOU'LL STILL BE DIRECTING ME TO USE MY AUTHORITY.

IF THE DELEGATION WERE TO HAPPEN IN A NEW OPPORTUNITY TO SELL OR BUY LAND COMES UP, WE WOULD TAKE IT TO COUNCIL.

IF FOUR OUT OF SEVEN COUNSELORS SAY THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, MR. GAGNON WHY DON'T YOU USE YOUR DELEGATED AUTHORITY TO ENACT THAT THAT PURCHASE OR ACQUISITION? I WOULD GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

IT WOULD BE ABSURD SITUATION WHERE I WOULD DISAVOW THE POWERS OF COUNCIL AND IT CAN BE SEVERELY CAREER LIMITING MOVE TO DO THAT AND THEN EXPECT THE INCOMING COUNCIL TO TAKE THAT LIGHTLY.

I WOULD NOT DO THAT. IT'S JUST ABSURD.

THAT'S JUST FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> THANK YOU MR. GAGNON. COUNSELOR PEARCE.

>> THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

WELL, I HAVE SOME SYMPATHY FOR COUNCILLOR MANN'S POINTS.

I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY, IF WE GO BACK TO WHAT COUNSEL FINAMORE ASKED THE CLERK.

THIS IS STANDARD PROCEDURE.

IT'S NOT UNUSUAL.

IT'S NORMAL HAPPENS IN MOST COMMUNITIES WHEN YOU HAVE ELECTION.

AS FAR AS I KNOW RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST TWO OF US ARE NOT RUNNING FOR THE COUNCIL.

THAT BASICALLY KICKS IN A LAME DUCK.

LET'S DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO SO WE CAN GET ON WITH THE ELECTION, SIMPLE AS THAT. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILLOR MANN.

>> THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP. JUST TO RESPOND TO MR. GRANULES COMMENTS, AND I WOULD AGREE.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT HIS INTENTION IS TO RUN A MUCK.

HOWEVER, WE'RE DEALING WITH REPORT WITH LANGUAGE FROM THE MUNICIPAL ACT THAT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH.

THE MUNICIPAL ACT LANGUAGE.

THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY.

TO LIMIT HIRING A VACANT POSITION OF A STATUTORY NATURE.

I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH, HOWEVER, THIS ALSO TALKS ABOUT REMOVING STATUTORY POSITIONS AS A COUNSEL.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS REGARDING THE TREASURER OR THE CLERKS POSITION.

THE UTMOST RESPECT TO THOSE TWO CURRENT POSITIONS.

I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR ON WHAT THIS SENSE, BECAUSE OPTICALLY, THIS IS WRITTEN IN SUCH A WAY THAT INTERPRETATION IS EVERYTHING.

THAT'S MY ISSUE.

>> COUNSELOR PATRIE.

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH WHAT COUNCILLOR MANN HAS SAID.

WHAT OUR CAO HAS SAID IS CORRECT.

WE CAN HIRE A CBO.

HE JUST CANNOT BE OFFICIATE IT INTO THE ACTUAL POSITION.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ON THE RADAR. WE HAVE TIME.

WHICH MEANS THAT IF SOMETHING WERE TO COME FORWARD AND HE WOULD BRING SOMETHING TO COUNCIL, WE CAN STILL NEGOTIATE IT AND DO IT.

WE HAVE TO DO THE HIGHER THE POSITION WE JUST CANNOT PUT THE BYLAW IN PLACE TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL.

THEN THE SAME THING WITH LAND PURCHASES.

IF THERE'S LAND PURCHASE THAT WERE TO COME FORWARD BUT, WE HAVE NONE ON THE TABLE AT THIS TIME.

WE CAN STILL NEGOTIATE THOSE PURCHASES OR SALES.

WE JUST CANNOT FINALIZE THE CLOSING BYLAW UNTIL NEW COUNCIL IS APPOINTED.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S COMMENTS BEING MADE.

THIS A STANDARD PRACTICE WHILE A STANDARD PRACTICES THAT YOU GO TO LAME DUCK.

THIS IS CHANGING THE STANDARD PRACTICE, WHICH IS ALLOWED TO BE DONE BY ANY MUNICIPALITY.

BUT THE PROVINCES PUT THIS IN PLACE, THAT LAME DUCK IS THERE FOR A REASON.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE PUTTING THIS BYLAW TO CHANGE THE ACTUAL LAME DUCK STATUS.

>> COUNCILLOR TURNER.

THANKS YOUR WORSHIP. I THINK THAT WHILE WE MAY NOT HAVE ANY PROPERTY DEALS ON THE TABLE AT THIS MOMENT, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICERS HAVE BEEN VERY BUSY IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS WITH THE MANY DEALS THAT THEY'VE BROUGHT FORWARD TO US.

THIS ESSENTIALLY TELLS HIM TO GO DORMANT FOR THE NEXT THREE MONTHS.

SOMETHING COULD COME IN TOMORROW, DAY AFTER, WEEK AFTER AND I DON T THINK ANY BUSINESS OR ANY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNER IN

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I THINK WE ACT TO OUR OWN DISADVANTAGE BY NOT DELEGATING AUTHORITY.

THE LANGUAGE IN THE MUNICIPAL ACT.

ALL ACTS HAD POLICY ADVISORS SPINNING DOCUMENTS FOR MONTHS AND YEARS PRIOR TO THEM EVER BEING ENACTED AND I THINK THE MUNICIPAL ACT IS WELL THOUGHT OUT.

PEOPLE WANT TO INTERPRET AS THEY WOULD.

THE ACT IS CLEAR IN MY MIND.

WE SHOULD PROCEED WITH THE DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY SO THAT THE BUSINESS OF COUNCIL AND THE CITY CAN CONTINUE DURING THE LAME DUCK PERIOD. THANK YOU.

>> WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO RECEIVE WHICH WOULD ESSENTIALLY MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT ENACTING THIS RECOMMENDATION, SO I'LL DO ROLL CALL.

STARTING WITH COUNCILLOR TURNER.

>> OPPOSED.

>> COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

>> OPPOSED.

>> COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

>> OPPOSED.

>> COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR MANN.

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNSELLOR CYR.

>> OPPOSED.

>> I'M OPPOSED. THAT'S DEFEATED.

BACK TO THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION, DO I HAVE A MOVER FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, THANK YOU.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? COUNSELLOR CYR?

>> THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU, I THINK THERE IS MERIT IN THE DISCUSSION THAT COUNCILLOR MANN WAS PUTTING FORWARD AND IF WE DO JUST AN AMENDMENT OF SECTION 8 AND STRIKE THE WORD REMOVAL FROM OFFICE, FOR THE DIRECTORS, I THINK IT ALLEVIATES A LOT OF FEARS AND QUESTIONABLE DOUBT.

MOST OF US REALIZE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE USED, BUT I THINK IT JUST GIVES THAT ADDED COMFORT TO EVERYBODY.

>> IS THERE A SECONDER FOR THAT AMENDMENT?

>> COUNCILLOR TURNER, ARE ARE YOU A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION OR?

>> I WANT TO GET SOME CLARITY FROM COUNCILLOR MANN?.

>> SOME CLARITY.

>> SORRY, I WANTED TO GET SOME CLARITY FROM COUNCILLOR MANN AS TO WHETHER THAT WOULD SATISFY HIS CONCERNS.

>> IT NEEDS TO BE SECONDED TO GO INTO THAT CONVERSATION.

>> OKAY, I'LL SECOND IT.

>> SECOND THE AMENDMENT FOR DISCUSSION, COUNCILLOR MANN.

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

IT WOULD RESOLVE MY CONCERNS REGARDING ITEM B, HOWEVER I STILL HAVE CONCERNS WITH ITEM A.

THAT'S WHY I ORIGINALLY SECONDED TO RECEIVE IT.

I THINK THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IN THESE TWO ITEMS FOR ME TO HAVE COMFORT.

EVEN IF CORRECTED B, I STILL HAVE CONCERNS WITH A AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT I CAN.

>> THANK YOU.

>> NO, IT'S ONLY CORRECTING B, REMOVAL FROM OFFICE, BUT THAT DOESN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, COUNSELLOR CYR, THE FINANCIAL AUTHORITY PIECE AND DISPOSITION OF PROPERTY.

>> MS. BRAY.

>> THANK YOU. JUST TO CLARIFY, THESE RESTRICTIONS ARE TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THE MUNICIPAL ACT AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE THE POWER TO REMOVE SOMETHING FROM THEM, SO THESE ARE THE FOUR THINGS THAT COUNSEL CANNOT DO WHILE THEY ARE IN LAME DUCK.

THEY CAN EITHER DELEGATE THE AUTHORITY TO DO ANY OF THEM OR NONE OF THEM, OR WE JUST REMAIN LAME DUCK.

WITH RESPECT TO B, CLAUSE B DOES NOT APPLY AS THE AUTHORITY TO HIRE AND DISMISS ANY EMPLOYEE, IS ALREADY COVERED IN THE CAO'S BY-LAW, SO IT'S A, THE APPOINTMENT OR REMOVAL FROM OFFICE OF ANY STATUTORY OFFICER OF THE MUNICIPALITY.

THAT IS NORMALLY A FUNCTION OF COUNSEL AND NOT THE CAO, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE DELEGATING TO THE CAO.

>> ESSENTIALLY THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE MUNICIPAL ACT THAT WE REALLY CAN'T PLAY WITH, SO THE AMENDMENT I GUESS IS STRICKEN.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? NONE. A ROLL-CALL VOTE, I'M GOING TO START WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

>> OPPOSED.

>> COUNCILLOR MANN.

>> OPPOSED.

>> COUNSELLOR CYR.

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR TURNER.

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

>> IN FAVOR?

>> I'M IN FAVOR, THAT'S CARRIED, THANK YOU.

7.2, REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, READ THE RELOCATION OF AUTISM SENSORY EQUIPMENT TO THE SPINE BEACH PLAYGROUND.

RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS DATED JULY 19TH,

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CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, SECONDED BY COUNSELLOR CYR. MR. HALLOCH?

>> YES, THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP.

AS DISCUSSED AT THE MOST RECENT PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING, A BACKGROUND FOR EVERYBODY AT HOME FUNDRAISING WAS COMPLETED IN THE YEARS BEFORE AND UP TO 2017 BY LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS WHERE MONEY EARNED WAS USED TO PURCHASE AUTISM SENSORY EQUIPMENT THAT WAS GIFTED TO THE CITY TO BE INSTALLED IN ONE OF THE PARKS.

PARK STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO INSTALL THE EQUIPMENT AT WEST VIEW PARK, WHICH WAS COMPLETED IN THE SUMMER OF 2018.

IN THE FALL OF 2021, COMPLAINTS BY LOCAL RESIDENTS WERE BROUGHT FORWARD TO COUNCIL REQUESTING THE RELOCATION OF THE EQUIPMENT DUE TO THE VOLUME OF NOISE ECHOING THROUGH OUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY, INCLUDING ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT.

WEST VIEW PARK TO NEIGHBORING HOME NEW YARDS IS AS LITTLE AS 70 METERS AWAY.

AFTER FURTHER INVESTIGATION, COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO RELOCATE THE EQUIPMENT FROM WEST VIEW PARK TO THE FIRE TOWER LOOKOUT PARK AND HAVE THE NEWLY PURCHASED VISUAL SENSORY EQUIPMENT INSTALLED IN ITS PLACE.

AFTER A MORE DETAILED INVESTIGATION, STAFF REALIZED THAT THE SPINE BEACH MAY BE A BETTER LOCATION FOR THE AUTISM SENSORY EQUIPMENT THAN THE LOOKOUT TOWER PARK.

REASONS INCLUDE, CLOSEST HOMES ARE MORE THAN 250 METERS AWAY AND ARE BUFFERED BY TREES AND A HILL COMPARED TO WEST VIEW AT 70 TO 80 METERS AWAY AND NO BUFFER ZONE ALLOWING NOISE TO TRAVEL FREELY, WOULD BE 400 METERS AWAY FROM ANY POTENTIAL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S ALSO ALONG THE CITY'S CONVENTIONAL TRANSIT ROUTE AND WALKABLE TOO MANY RESIDENTS, AS OPPOSED TO THE FIRE TOWER.

SPINE BEACH IS SEASONALLY STAFFED WITH LIFEGUARDS WHO CAN KEEP AN EYE ON THE EQUIPMENT AS WELL AS THE CHILDREN UTILIZING IT AROUND THE WATER.

ANOTHER THING IS IT ACTUALLY IS EASIER TO INSTALL AT SPINE BEACH AREA THAN IT WOULD BE UP AT THE LOOKOUT TOWER.

IN SUMMARY, AS DISCUSSED AT THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ON JULY 18TH, 2022, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT COUNCIL APPROVED THE RELOCATION OF THE AUTISM SENSORY EQUIPMENT FROM WEST VIEW PARK TO SPINE BEACH PLAYGROUND, OPPOSED TO THE DECISION TO HAVE IT INSTALLED AT THE LOOKOUT TOWER PLAYGROUND FOR REASONS STATED ABOVE.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH FOR DOING THIS EXTRA HOMEWORK FOR COUNCIL ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS ALSO, VERY MUCH APPRECIATED AND THANK YOU FOR GOING OUT OF YOUR WAY FOR THIS.

>> COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. HALLOCH.

I HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE SPINE ROAD BEACH.

DO WE HAVE THE ACCESSIBLE MATH ON THAT BEACH AS WELL AS THE ONES AT SPRUCE BEACH?

>> WE DO.

>> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILLOR MANN.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THE INTENTION OF COUNCIL WAS TO ENSURE THAT THIS EQUIPMENT WAS TO BE REDEPLOYED IN THE COMMUNITY.

THIS STILL SATISFIES THAT AS WELL.

JUST TO CLARIFY AGAIN, I KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.

WHEN THE EQUIPMENT WAS REMOVED FROM WEST VIEW PARK, IT WAS NOT NECESSARILY THE NOISE FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS PROBLEMATIC FROM THE USE BY INDIVIDUALS WITH AUTISM.

IT WAS THE USE AFTER HOURS, MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT THAT WAS CAUSING ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I JUST NEED TO STRESS THAT BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS SOME SIGNIFICANT CRITICISM THAT CAME FORWARD AND I JUST WANTED TO AGAIN, REITERATE THAT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT IT WASN'T THE APPROPRIATE USE OF THE EQUIPMENT DURING REGULAR HOURS, THAT IT WAS MORE THE AFTER HOURS USE THAT WAS CAUSING PROBLEMS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

HOPEFULLY, THAT WILL BE GREATLY MINIMIZED WITH THIS LOCATION.

AS YOU INDICATED AGAIN, THERE IS THE NEIGHBORING HOMES ARE A LARGER DISTANCE AWAY, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

>> THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

FOLLOWING UP A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT COUNCILLOR MANN WAS DISCUSSING.

I HAVE RECEIVED A QUESTION FROM A CITIZEN WHO ASKED IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS THERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A FENCE AND A GATE AROUND THE EQUIPMENT AT WEST VIEW PARK WITH A LOCK TO PREVENT ANY VANDALISM.

BASICALLY, THAT'S WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS WITH THE VANDALISM, NOT THE USE OF THE EQUIPMENT BY FAMILIES WITH AUTISTIC CHILDREN.

>> THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP. I REALLY CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

I WASN'T INVOLVED WITH THE ORIGINAL DESIGN AND STUFF.

FROM WHERE I SEE IT,

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BUT IF THAT WAS SOMETHING INTENDED AT THE BEGINNING, I WASN'T INVOLVED IN SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE CAN ANSWER THAT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I CAN ANSWER THAT. IT WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENTION THAT FENCING WOULD BE PUT AROUND THAT AREA.

THAT DID COME FORWARD AT THE ACCESSIBILITY COMMITTEE IN THE SUBGROUP AT THE TIME WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE UNLOCKED THING.

BUT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THREE-AND-HALF FOOT HIGH COLORED FENCE TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN FROM RUNNING TOWARDS THE WATER.

UNFORTUNATELY, AFTER THAT WAS INSTALLED, COVID HIT AND THE FENCING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONATED, I THINK FELL OFF THE RAILS AT THE TIME.

BUT THAT WASN'T THE ORIGINAL PLAN.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE THEN COUNCILLOR TURNER ON THIS ONE.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH, FOR YOUR REPORT.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

IT IS A CONTENTIOUS ITEM PUTTING THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AT THE FIRE TOWER, I DIDN'T AGREE WITH IT GOING THERE, COUNCIL MADE THE DECISION THEN WE WOULD HAVE DONE IT.

I DO HOPE THAT COUNCIL DOES MOVE FORWARD WITH MOVING THIS OVER TO THE SPINE BEACH AREA.

IT WOULD BE AWESOME TO HAVE TWO AUTISM SENSORY PARKS AS OPPOSED TO JUST ONE SO THAT THEY HAVE A SELECTION.

MY QUESTION BECOMES THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP TO MR. HALLOCH, IS THERE MORE EQUIPMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE PUT WITH THAT ONE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT OR ARE WE LOOKING AT EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT NOW, IS STAFF LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY REQUESTING MORE EQUIPMENT IN THE 2023 BUDGET? I DON T THINK A STANDALONE SINGLE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS SUFFICIENT TO THE PEOPLE WITH THE AUTISM SPECTRUM.

I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ONE PIECE, WE SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE SEVERAL PIECES AND MAKE TWO SENSORY PARKS AS OPPOSED TO ONE PARK AND ONE LOCATION THAT HAS ONE PIECE.

>> COUNCILLOR PATRIE, I BELIEVE THERE'S TWO PIECES SOUND EQUIPMENT, MR. HALLOCH.

>> CORRECT. I WAS GOING TO JUST CLARIFY WITH MR. DOYLE IF THERE WAS MORE THAN TWO, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S TWO.

THERE HAS BEEN TWO THAT HAD BEEN REMOVED SO FAR WAITING FOR A DECISION TONIGHT AND THEY'LL BE INSTALLED WHERE WE DECIDE.

THERE'LL BE TWO PIECES AT THAT POINT, AND I BELIEVE THREE MORE BEING INSTALLED RIGHT NOW BACK INTO WEST VIEW PARK.

WE'LL HAVE TWO NOW AND WHATEVER WE DECIDE IN THE FUTURE, IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD ONTO THEM, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT WOULD BE TWO OR THREE OR FOUR PIECES AS THEY COME ALONG, WE'LL INVESTIGATE AND SEE WHAT WILL WORK BEST BUT THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM AT THE PARK TO DO SO.

>> FOLLOW UP, COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY AND IS COUNCIL WILLING TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION OF INSTEAD OF PUTTING THREE ADDITIONAL PIECES AT THE WEST VIEW PARK, THAT WE PUT MORE PIECES AT THE SPINE BEACH SO THAT WE HAVE TWO EQUAL-SIZED PARKS.

THEN WHEN WE DO HAVE MORE STAFF COMING FORWARD, WE CAN EXPAND BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME.

>> THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE REQUEST OF THE COMMITTEE WAS THAT THEY BE SPREAD OUT A BIT.

BUT IT'S WHEREVER STAFF, I THINK HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO INSTALL.

MR. HALLOCH, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING STILL LEFT THAT HASN'T HAD THE BASES INSTALLED AT WEST VIEW, IS IT POSSIBLE TO ADD TO THE SPINE BEACH?

>> WHAT I'LL HAVE TO DO IS I'LL HAVE THEM INVESTIGATE BECAUSE I KNOW TODAY WAS THE DAY AFTER ALL THE EVENTS THAT THEY'RE GETTING THAT IN BECAUSE IT'S BEEN REQUESTED SEVERAL TIMES.

IT'S IN. I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS COMPLETED. THEY'RE ALL IN? THEY'RE ALL IN RIGHT NOW AT THE ACTUAL THE SENSORY ONES BECAUSE IT'S BEEN ASKED SEVERAL TIMES AND WE WERE WAITING FOR THE EVENTS TO BE COMPLETED.

>> JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON COUNCILLOR PATRIE IS COMMENTS AND I DO LOOK FORWARD TO IT IN THE FUTURE.

HOPEFULLY, YOU'LL SEE MORE PIECES GO THERE, BUT I RECALL THERE BEING ACCESSIBILITY SWINGS PURCHASED TOO.

IF THOSE HAVEN'T BEEN INSTALLED ANYWHERE, POSSIBLY ADDING THOSE TO THE SPINE BEACH ALSO WITH THE MOVIE MATCH THERE, THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY A PERFECT PLACE FOR THEM.

>> YEAH. I'LL INVESTIGATE IN AND TALK WITH MR. DOYLE AND MR. PALIN AND WE'LL SEE WHAT'S AVAILABLE THERE AND WE WILL MAKE SURE IT GETS SO THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO EQUAL PARKS.

>> PERFECT. THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR TURNER.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUST FOLLOWING UP, I GUESS, ON WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE'S COMMENTS WERE.

I'M NOT INTERESTED IN MANAGING PUBLIC WORKS, MICRO-MANAGING.

I THINK THAT THE THREE NEW PIECES, IS THAT THE TOTAL OF PIECES THAT THE ACCESSIBILITY COMMITTEE HAD PURCHASED?

>> YEAH. THEY WERE THE ONES THAT WERE REAL DONE

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>> YEAH.

>> YEAH. CORRECT.

>> IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF EXPANDING IN ONE OF THE PARKS, PERHAPS YOU COULD BRING IT BACK TO MY COMMITTEE OR TO THE ACCESSIBILITY COMMITTEE.

LET US KNOW AND WE CAN TRY AND WORK FORWARD WITH THAT, THE TOYS OR INSTRUMENTS, HOWEVER, YOU REFER TO THEM, ARE NOT JUST FOR CHILDREN, YOUNG PEOPLE WITH AUTISM.

EVERY CHILD CAN USE THEM.

ENHANCING OUR PARKS, MAKING OUR CITY MORE ATTRACTIVE.

THAT'S THE GOOD STUFF WE CAN DO, AND IT'S NOT THAT EXPENSIVE. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. HALLOCH OR MR. DOYLE, WHAT OTHER PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IS AT SPINE BEACH? IS IT JUST THESE PIECES THAT ARE GOING IN?

>> NO. SPINE BEACH DOES HAVE SWING SETS, SLIDES.

WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE DISTANCES TO SEE, BUT YEAH, THERE'S ALREADY A SMALL LITTLE PARK THERE OR PLAYGROUND, IT'LL BE PERFECT FOR THEM.

>> I'M VERY PLEASED YOU'RE TO BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND THAT WE'VE COME TO THIS DECISION BECAUSE I AGREE FIRE TOWER LOOKOUT WASN'T A GOOD OPTION FOR ANYONE, I DON T BELIEVE.

FAMILY WANTS TO GO TO BE ABLE TO PLAY TOGETHER AND NOT TO HAVE TO TAKE ONE CHILD TO ONE PLACE AND ONE CHILD TO ANOTHER PLACE.

I THINK THAT THIS IS A FAIR AND EQUITABLE SOLUTION, AND I THANK YOU FOR DOING THE WORK TO BRING IT FORWARD, MR. DOYLE AND MR. HALLOCH.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I THINK ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE SUMMED THAT UP.

VERY APPRECIATIVE, MR. HALLOCH, MR. DOYLE, FOR DOING THAT RESEARCH AND MAKING THIS HAPPEN.

I'M SURE IT'S GOING MAKE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE AND FAMILIES AND THE COMMUNITY HAPPY.

WITH THAT I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE THEN ALL IN FAVOR. THAT IS CARRIED.

7.3; MEMO FROM THE DIRECTOR OF CLERKS AND PLANNING SERVICES, ZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT 426 ONTARIO AVENUE.

FURTHER TO THE PUBLIC MEETING HELD EARLIER THIS EVENING, ATTACHED IS A REPORT FROM THE CITY'S PLANNER J.L.

RICHARDS AND ASSOCIATES, WITH RESPECT TO ZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT AS SUBMITTED BY 920857 ONTARIO INC FOR ZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 26 ONTARIO AVENUE.

PURPOSE AND EFFECT OF THE PROPOSED ZONING BY-LAW AMENDMENT APPLICATION IS TO AMEND THE PROVISION OF CENTRAL COMMERCIAL SPECIAL EXCEPTION 2 C1-2 ZONE TO PERMIT A CHURCH PLACE OF WORSHIP ON SUBJECT PROPERTY.

NOTICE OF THIS MEETING WAS ADVERTISED IN JUNE 16, 2022, ADDITION TO EVALUATE STANDARD, NO COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC CONCERNING THIS APPLICATION.

ACCORDINGLY, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION IS RECOMMENDED, THAT THE REPORT FROM JAIL RICHARD'S DATED JULY 19, 2022 BE RECEIVED.

THAT THE APPLICATION FOR ZONING BY-LAWS AMENDMENT AS SUBMITTED TO AMEND THE PROVISION OF CENTRAL COMMERCIAL SPECIAL EXCEPTION 2 ZONED TO PERMIT A CHURCH PLACE OR WORSHIP ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BE APPROVED.

THAT COUNCIL ENACT THE APPROPRIATE BYLAW TO REZONE THE LAND SUBJECT TO THE APPLICATION TO PERMIT PLACE OF WORSHIP AS A PERMITTED USE ON SUBJECT PROPERTY.

MOVER, PLEASE. MOVED BY COUNCILOR PEARCE, SECOND BY COUNSELLOR CYR.

MS. BRAID, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? PRETTY MUCH SUM IT UP.

>> NO, YOUR WORSHIP. THAT WAS EVERYTHING I HAD.

>> THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. COUNSELLOR CYR.

>> THANK YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU. JUST FOR THE PUBLIC AT HOME.

I'M QUITE SURE THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

THIS IS THE OLD STRAND HALL.

JUST SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE AGILE BUILDING?

>> ABSOLUTELY. COUNCILLOR MANN.

>> THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

ORIGINALLY WHEN THIS CAME UP TO BYLAW, I DID HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING PARKING.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY STAFF THAT THE PARKING REQUIREMENT IS ALL COMPLIANT BASED ON WALKING DISTANCES BETWEEN THE PARKING LOTS AND THE VICINITY SO I HAVE NO CONCERNS WITH THIS MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEM NONE, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE THEN.

ALL IN FAVOR? THAT IS CARRIE. THANK YOU.

7.4, REPORT OF THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER, FORMER MNR PROPERTY ON HIGHWAY 108.

THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE CAO PREDISPOSITION OF THE FORMER MNR A PROPERTY BE RECEIVED AND THAT PARCEL 4602 AES 4.29 ACRES.

IT'S POLE LAND KNOWN LOCALLY AS A FORMER MNR WORKSITE ON HIGHWAY 108 BE SOLD FOR NOMINAL VALUE OR OTHERWISE TRANSFERRED TO SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION.

IN THE INTERESTS OF RECONCILIATION, ECONOMIC, AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND SOCIAL CULTURAL SERVICE DELIVERY.

THAT STAFF BE DIRECTED TO PREPARE THE NECESSARY BYLAW TO EXECUTE THIS DIRECTION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

MOVER, PLEASE. MOVED BY COUNCILOR PEARCE,

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>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I'M NOT SURE HOW I'LL JUST DO MY BEST TO SUMMARIZE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND THEN COUNCIL WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION TO PURSUE THE CONCEPTS OF JOINT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, LAND DEVELOPMENT, AND THE CONCEPTS OF RECONCILIATION.

I REFER TO THE MOTION OF 2018 JUST SIMPLY AS A REFERENCE POINT.

A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE CORPORATION THAT'S REFERRED TO IN THAT MOTION IS NOT THE CORPORATION OR THE MISSISSAUGAS PARK.

THAT WAS JUST ANOTHER POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WOULD WORK TOGETHER IN 2018 AND '19 ERA.

SINCE THEN, WE'VE HAD COVID, OF COURSE, AND THEN WE'RE PICKING UP THE TRAIL AS BOTH ELLIOT LAKE AND SERPENT RIVER RECOVER FROM THAT.

WE'VE BEEN RESUMING THOSE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WE'VE HAD SOME DIFFICULTY OVER THE YEARS SECURING ANY VISION OR TRACTION ON THE FORMER MNR PROPERTY AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, REMAINS VACANT AND IT'S BEEN VACANT AND NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE TAX BASE FOR 20 YEARS OR APPROXIMATELY A LITTLE LESS THAN THAT.

I MADE THE RECOMMENDATION SIMPLY BASED ON THOSE POSITIVE DISCUSSIONS TO GET DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL HERE.

I DON'T NEED DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO GET DIRECTION.

YOU PAY ME TO GIVE YOU RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH IS WHAT I'M DOING.

SEEKING DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

IF COUNCIL WISHES TO PURSUE THIS OPPORTUNITY, THEY CAN DIRECT ME THIS EVENING ANY WAY THEY WISH, WHETHER IT'S A DEFERRAL OR AN ADOPTION OR DIRECTION.

BUT I AM RECOMMENDING THAT WE MOVE AHEAD WITH THIS BECAUSE IT MEETS A LOT OF THE STRATEGIC GOALS AND OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

IT SENDS A STRONG MESSAGE TO SERPENT RIVER, THE PROVINCE AND THE NATION AT THIS TIME.

THE POPE WAS IN CANADA DELIVERING HIS LONG AWAITED TOPOLOGY.

IT FITS INTO BROADER CONCEPTS OF RECONCILIATION.

IT ALSO MEETS THE SPIRIT OF THAT 2018 MOTION WHERE COUNCIL USE SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAID WE DON'T WISH TO JUST SIMPLY WAIT FOR THE SENIOR LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT.

IT'S OUR OPPORTUNITY AS A MUNICIPALITY TO GET BEHIND RECONCILIATION.

THERE IS A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL OPPORTUNITY AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A NET POSITIVE TO THE RATE PAYERS OF ELLIOT LAKE BY PURSUING THIS OPPORTUNITY.

AGAIN UP TO COUNCIL TO DETERMINE IF I'M RIGHT OR NOT.

IT MORE IMMEDIATELY DEMONSTRATES THEIR SERPENT RIVER HOW SERIOUS WE ARE ABOUT OUR EMERGING PARTNERSHIPS WHERE THERE WILL BE MORE OPPORTUNITIES COMING BACK IN FRONT OF COUNCIL WE'RE HAVING VERY POSITIVE DISCUSSIONS WITH SERVER RIVER FIRST NATION.

THAT OPPORTUNITY MOVES ON.

TOURISM AND INDIGENOUS ICO AND CULTURAL TOURISM IS AN EMERGING MARKET THAT WILL ONLY BENEFIT BOTH COMMUNITIES IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

ADMITTEDLY, THERE ARE SOME NUANCES AND SUBTLETIES WE NEED TO SORT OUT.

WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK WOULD BE FOR A OBVIOUS RETURNING OF THE LAND TO SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION.

WE MAY HAVE TO BLOCK OUR NOSE AND HAVE SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION PURCHASE THE PARCEL OF LAND AT A NOMINAL VALUE.

WE'RE STILL SORTING THAT OUT.

BUT SEEKING THE DIRECTION TO PURSUE THAT AND COME BACK AS SOON AS PRACTICAL TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE VARIOUS COUPLE OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN PURSUE IT TO DO THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THIS DRAG ON.

THOSE DISCUSSIONS, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER ON WHAT THE FUTURE OF THAT POSTAL HOLDS AND HOW IT WILL IMPACT THE ECONOMY OF BOTH COMMUNITIES.

BUT IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE OF THE CONCEPTS OF RECONCILIATION, WE'RE ALLOWING CERTAIN RIVER FIRST NATION TO BE IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT ON THE FUTURE OF THAT PARCEL, WHICH WAS BASICALLY THEIR LAND ORIGINALLY.

WE'RE ABLE TO RETURN IT TO THEM FOR THE FUTURE OF, AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN LEARNING IS A FUTURE THAT WILL SPAN SEVEN GENERATIONS.

NOT ONE TERM OF COUNCIL, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE USED TO.

>> THANK YOU, MR. DANIEL. JUST TO START OUT, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO RECONCILE AND TRY TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT WITH OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AND TRYING TO DEVELOP PARTNERSHIPS AND GOOD RELATIONSHIPS FOR YEARS NOW.

THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN VACANT FOR 19 YEARS UNDER THE CITY'S OWNERSHIP.

ANY REQUESTS TO PURCHASE THAT I'VE SEEN DURING MY TIME ON COUNCIL, THE PROPERTY HAS NOT MET THE ZONING OR THE NEEDS OF THE MUNICIPALITY AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

I'VE BEEN DOING LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS NOW, OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE SAT ON THEIR BOARDS AND DONE LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENTS TOO.

WORDS ARE USELESS WHEN YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ACTION AND SAY, WE CAN'T GO BACK 70 YEARS AND WRITE THE 70 YEARS BEFORE US.

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SPEAKING ABOUT TRADITIONAL LANDS, RATHER THAN ACKNOWLEDGING AND TAKING THE ACTION AND ACTUALLY SAYING, WE WISH TO RETURN SOME OF THE LAND TO THE TRADITIONAL PEOPLES OF OUR AREA, I THINK IS THE STRONGEST STATEMENT WE CAN MAKE TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND TO SENIOR GOVERNMENT IN DOING WHAT'S RIGHT FOR BOTH OUR COMMUNITIES AND THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA.

FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY THANK YOU, MR. DANIEL FOR WE'RE TAKING THIS STEP FORWARD.

OPEN UP TO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

I HAVE COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

>> THANK YOU. WORSHIP. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE COUNCILOR STEVE, MIYASAKI FROM SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION IN THEREOF AUDIENCE AND I THANK YOU FOR COMING TO OUR MEETING TONIGHT.

TODAY IS A HISTORICAL DAY IN CANADA, IN THE WORLD FOR THAT MATTER.

ALTHOUGH I DON'T HAVE ANY FEELINGS AROUND WHAT THAT MEANT TO THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF CANADA AS A CATHOLIC, AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT WRONGS WERE ACKNOWLEDGED AND WRONGS WERE APOLOGIZED.

I SEE THIS AS A GREAT MOVING FORWARD TODAY AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A GREAT DAY FOR US TO BE PART OF THAT.

WE'RE NOT GIVING ANYBODY ANYTHING, WE'RE RETURNING A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

THROUGH MY VISITS WITH ELDERS AND MY INVOLVEMENT WITH SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION FOR AS LONG AS I'VE LIVED HERE, WHICH HAS SINCE 1979, I'VE HEARD THROUGH THEIR TALK HISTORY BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THAT THEIR RECORDS ARE KEPT, IS PASSED FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION, THAT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY COULD POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN PART OF AN ORIGINAL SETTLEMENT.

IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME AGAIN BY COUNCILLOR MEAWASIGE LAST WEEK THAT WHERE THERE WERE TRIBUTARIES TO LAKES IS WHERE PEOPLE STARTED AND THAT THERE COULD HAVE BEEN LOTS OF AREAS AROUND ELLIOT LAKE WHERE THERE WERE LITTLE COMMUNITIES THAT WERE BUILT.

TO ME, THIS IS A FITTING PIECE OF PROPERTY TO BE THE FIRST RETURNED.

HAVING SIT ON THIS COMMITTEE AND OTHER COMMITTEES INVOLVING SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION, I CAN SAY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MANY YEARS THAT I HAVE HOPE AND THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD IN A POSITIVE MOTION.

NOT ONLY TOWARDS RECONCILIATION BUT TOWARDS IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP BUILDING FOR OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF OUR REGION.

REALLY [INAUDIBLE] WHICH IS REGIONAL.

I APPRECIATE THE WORDS FROM OUR ESTEEMED DOUGLAS ELLIOTT, WHO SPEAKS ON BEHALF OF THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY.

I THINK THAT AS A COUNCILOR AND AS A PERSON OF ELLIOT LAKE THAT I'M HONORED TO BE SITTING HERE AND HAVING THIS DISCUSSION TODAY.

WE'VE HAD SOME GREAT DISCUSSIONS AND OUR MOMENTUM IS BUILDING WITH OUR RELATIONSHIP-BUILDING.

THEIR COUNCIL IS AWARE AND THEIR COMMITTEE IS AWARE THAT NOTHING WAS PROMISED TO THEM, THAT THIS HAD TO COME FOR DISCUSSION AND FOLLOW OUR PROCESS, THAT IT IS AN OPEN PROCESS AND THAT WE'RE NOT HIDING ANYTHING AND WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING BEHIND ANYONE'S BACK.

THAT THIS IS AN OPEN AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS AND THIS IS THE PROCESS THROUGH THE MUNICIPAL ACT.

IT'S QUITE INTERESTING TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP AND TO TRY TO RELATIONSHIP BUILD WITH A NATION THAT HAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT RULES THAN WE DO.

WE'RE LEARNING DATA ABOUT EACH OTHER AND THEY RESPECT OURS AND WE'RE LEARNING TO RESPECT THEIRS.

THAT'S WHY COUNCILLOR MEAWASIGE IS HERE TODAY AND TO LEARN MORE ABOUT OUR PROCESS AS WELL.

THIS IS PART OF OUR PROCESS.

OUR STAFF BRINGS FORWARD RECOMMENDATIONS, WE DEBATE IT AND DISCUSS IT AT COUNCIL, AND WE MAKE THE BEST DECISION IN THE INTERESTS OF OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY.

I DO SUPPORT THIS RETURNING OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY TO SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION.

I AM VERY HOPEFUL OF WHAT'S NEXT TO COME AND HOW THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND HOW OUR RELATIONSHIP IS GOING TO GROW OUR ECONOMY NOT ONLY WITH ELLIOT LAKE AND SERPENT RIVER BUT REGIONALLY.

I HOPE THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO AND THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA IS PAYING ATTENTION BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO BE LEADERS IN THE WAY FORWARD THROUGH RECONCILIATION.

I AM PROUD TO SIT HERE TONIGHT AND TO BE ABLE TO BE PART OF THIS.

>> THANK YOU. COUNSELLOR CYR?

>> THANK YOU. WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. I'M ACTUALLY

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I THINK THIS HAS BEEN PART OF OUR STRATEGY AS THE LAST FEW COUNCILS OF TRYING TO BUILD THE REPROACH MEANT WITH OUR SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATIONS AND THE OTHER FIRST NATION RESERVES NEAR US.

I THINK THIS OFFERS US A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TO BUILD OUR FUTURES TOGETHER BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE'LL GROW.

THE MORE WE STOP THINKING OURSELVES AND ISOLATING OURSELVES AND JUST DOING YOUR OWN THING, THE MORE WE WORK TOGETHER, THE MORE EACH OF US WILL EXPAND AND LEARN ABOUT EACH OTHER'S CULTURES AND JUST ENRICH EACH OTHER'S CULTURES.

I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CONTINUING.

IT'S NOT THE FIRST STEP BECAUSE I THINK THE MISSISSAGI PARK WAS THE FIRST STEP.

AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I THINK THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THAT ENERGY IN BUILDING OUR FUTURES TOGETHER AND I WELCOME THAT.

I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THIS COME FORWARD.

I'M REALLY HAPPY, I'M REALLY HOPEFUL THAT IT DOES PASS BECAUSE I'M PROUD OF BEING A PART OF IT.

I THANK STAFF AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A STRONG MESSAGE TO EVERYONE ACROSS THE NATION AND ACROSS THE WORLD AS WELL, THAT IT'S TIME TO STOP FIGHTING EACH OTHER AND IT'S TIME TO WELCOME EACH OTHER AS BROTHERS AND WORK TOGETHER.

THIS IS OUR PATH THAT WAY.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR MANN?

>> THANK YOU. WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

OBVIOUSLY, MY COMMENTS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS.

IT SEEMS OBVIOUSLY EXTREMELY FITTING THAT WE DISCUSS THIS TODAY OF ALL DAYS WITH WHAT OCCURRED EARLIER IN ALBERTA THIS AFTERNOON.

I GUESS CLEARLY THIS IS ANOTHER STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND HAVING ATTENDED AND BEEN A COUNCIL FOR MANY YEARS NOW AND SEEING THE ATTEMPTS AT RELATIONSHIPS AND DOING THAT.

THIS IS CLEARLY STRENGTHENING THE RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE.

HEARING COMMENTS FROM MR. ELLIOT, ACTUALLY BOTH MR. ELLIOTS THIS EVENING.

AGAIN, BUILDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AS AN ECONOMIC AREA OR REGION IS AGAIN VERY IMPORTANT.

MY ONLY QUESTION AND AGAIN, I WOULD BE REMISS BECAUSE MR. THOMAS HAD BROUGHT IT UP EARLIER, WE RECEIVED SOME CORRESPONDENCE THIS AFTERNOON.

WHAT IMPLICATIONS? THE E-MAIL THAT THE COUNCIL RECEIVED, I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO FAR INTO THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTIONS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE HAD OTHER DEALINGS WITH THIS PROPERTY TO BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT.

CLEARLY, WE HAVEN'T GONE TO ANY GREAT EXTENT TO AWARD TENDERS.

I GUESS IS REALLY THE WAY WITH WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

IS THERE ANY OTHER MESSAGING THAT WE CAN SHARE TONIGHT, AGAIN, TO ENSURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TRULY A SUCCESS FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IN THE AREA? THANK YOU.

MR. DANIEL, ANY COMMENT?

>> I'M NOT TOO SURE HOW FAR WE CAN GO OTHER THAN TO SAY, COUNCIL WAS AWARE WE HAD AN RFP WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES TO DEVELOP THAT LAND.

ULTIMATELY, ALL THE BIDS WERE REJECTED BY COUNCIL AS NOT FITTING THE SPIRIT OR THE INTENT OF THE RFP.

THAT RFP WAS CANCELED AND THAT CASE WAS CLOSED AND WE'RE MOVING ON.

I DID SEEK A LEGAL OPINION TO CLARIFY THAT THE TWO ARE TO SOME PEOPLE, OF COURSE, MAYBE LINKED, BUT THERE WAS NO LEGAL IMPEDIMENT FROM THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE TO PURSUING WITH THIS MOTION THAT RFP WAS OVER LAST YEAR AND WE'RE BACK IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT AND IT'S UP TO COUNCIL TO DETERMINE THE FUTURE OF THAT PROPERTY.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PATRIF.

>> THANK YOU. WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I AS WELL WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME COUNCILLOR MEAWASIGE.

HAVING COME FROM THIS AREA, MY FAMILY, MY FATHER'S FAMILY, MY WHOLE FAMILY COMES FROM MISSISSAGI AREA.

I GREW UP IN ELLIOT LAKE, SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN CATHOLIC IN SERPENT RIVER.

I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF WORKING WITH SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATIONS ON RELATIONSHIP-BUILDING AND RECONCILIATION.

I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE A LOT FURTHER AND DO A LOT OF PARTNERING FOR THE BETTERMENT OF BOTH COMMUNITIES.

BEFORE I GET TOO FAR INTO THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE MAYOR, [INAUDIBLE] IF THIS MATTER IS RECONSIDERATION OR RE-INTRODUCTION OF THE MATTER ALREADY DECIDED BY COUNCIL?

>> MS. CLERK?

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THE COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

IT'S NOT RECONSIDERATION AS THIS MOTION HAS NEVER BEEN BROUGHT TO COUNCIL BEFORE SO RECONSIDERATION IS WHEN YOU ARE VOTING ON A MOTION AGAIN IN THE EXACT SAME MANNER SO THIS HAS NEVER BEEN BROUGHT TO COUNCIL BEFORE.

>> WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS

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WAS THERE A DECISION OF COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS?

>> NO.

THAT WOULD BE MR. DANIEL, WHO WAS CLERK WHO CAME LAST TIME WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.

>> PROPERTY CAME UP. I'M NOT EVEN AT LIBERTY TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE COUNCILLOR PATRIE IS GOING WITH THIS.

IF IT WAS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION, IT WOULD HAVE ONLY BEEN TANGENTIALLY AND THERE WAS NO DIRECTION GIVEN SO WE CLARIFY THAT WITH MR. MASCARIN FROM AIRD BERLIS, AND THERE WAS NO DIRECTION GIVEN.

WE'RE COMPLETELY FAIR TO PROCEED WITH THE MOTION THAT'S IN FRONT OF COUNCIL NOW.

>> I JUST ASKED YOU, MR. DANIEL, BECAUSE, YES, WE DON'T DISCUSS CLOSED SESSION IN OPEN, BUT WE SURE DO PASS ALL OUR MOTIONS IN OPEN AND NOTHING WAS EVER APPROVED OR PASSED IN OPEN SESSION IN REGARDS TO THIS PROPERTY.

>> IF I MAY CONTINUE THEN BASED ON THE EMAIL THAT WE RECEIVED WEDNESDAY NIGHT FROM OUR CAO ABOUT THIS MATTER AND I SPOKE WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, WHO HER, THE MAYOR, AND COUNCILLOR PEARCE, ALONG WITH THE CAO, ATTENDED SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION AND OFFERED THE PROPERTY TO THE MEMBERS OF THE SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION.

COUNCILLOR FINAMORE SAID TO ME THAT THEY ALMOST BROKE OUT IN TEARS AND I DON'T BLAME THEM.

IT'S AN AMAZING PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT COULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THEIR COMMUNITY AS WELL AS BENEFICIAL TO OURS.

I HAVE AN ISSUE THAT THIS WAS PUT ON THE TABLE AND OFFERED WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF COUNCIL.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL CANNOT MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE THAT OFFER WITHOUT THIS FIRST COMING FORWARD TO THIS MEETING.

THAT IS THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH THIS.

IF WE WOULD HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION SIMILAR TO WHAT HAS BEEN SAID HERE ALREADY TONIGHT, THAT THIS IS COMING TO THE COUNCIL TABLE TO BE DISCUSSED TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO THIS, THAT WOULD BE FINE.

FOUR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL DECIDE WHAT COUNCIL IS GOING TO DO AND WE ALL HAVE TO FALL IN LINE AND WE HAVE TO GET IN LINE AND WE DO THAT.

THE ISSUE I HAVE IS THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE PROPONENTS AND OFFERED TO THEM AND THE STUFF IN CLOSED SESSION THAT I CAN'T SAY THAT I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH COUNCILLOR FINAMORE AS WELL.

THERE'S OTHER MITIGATING FACTORS AS WELL AS TO TIE WITH THIS OFFER.

I HAVE A GRAVE CONCERN WITH THAT BEING PERFORMED IN THAT MANNER, AND I'M GOING TO OPPOSE THAT.

REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH I WANT TO WORK WITH SERPENT RIVER, I WOULDN'T EXPECT THEM TO DO THEIR DEALINGS WITH US IMPROPERLY EITHER.

WE HAVE TO BE HONEST AND TRANSPARENT AND FOLLOW THE RULES AND REGULATIONS.

WE'RE NOT DOING THAT BY DOING THIS THE WAY THAT IT WAS DONE.

I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.

THERE'S ALSO OTHER ISSUES AND IF WE WERE TO AMEND THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATION, I WOULDN'T POSSIBLY BE IN FAVOR BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER THINGS TIED TO THIS REPORT.

THE FACT THAT THE 2018 RESOLUTION DOESN'T STATE ANYWHERE IN THERE ABOUT GIVING LAND, IT IS ABOUT PARTNERING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I AM 100 PERCENT IN FAVOR OF.

THE PROVINCE WHEN THEY GAVE US THIS PROPERTY IN 2003, THEY TURNED THIS PROPERTY OVER TO THE MUNICIPALITY, TO THE CITIZENS OF ELLIOT LAKE WHEN THE MINES COLLAPSED TO HELP WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SO THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY EXPAND ON THE BOAT LAUNCH AREA HENCE THE RFPS, HIS WORSHIP HAS REFERRED TO DIDN'T QUITE MEET WHAT COUNCIL WAS LOOKING FOR IN ORDER FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SALES OF THOSE PROPERTIES, WHICH I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH.

THERE IS AN ISSUE INVOLVED WITH THIS THAT IN THE REPORT, IT STATES THAT THIS LAND IS VERY VALUABLE AND WE WANT TO GIVE IT AWAY OR GIVE IT AS A NOMINAL FEE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOT A RULING.

THE MUNICIPAL ACT SAYS THAT WE CANNOT SELL LAND FOR LESS THAN THE APPRAISED VALUE.

WE HAVE A PREDICAMENT WITH THAT.

IF WE WERE TO REMOVE THE FINAL LINE OF THE RECOMMENDATION AND THAT STAFF BE DIRECTED TO PREPARE THE NECESSARY BY LAW TO EXECUTE THIS DIRECTION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, I WOULD BECOME IN FAVOR BECAUSE THERE'S MORE WORK THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THERE'S ALSO THE ASPECT WHICH I THINK IS GREAT THAT OUR CAO HAS PUT IN THERE THAT WE MAKE THIS A PILOT PROJECT.

ELLIOT LAKE IS A VERY STRONG PROPONENT OF PILOT PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION PEOPLE SO I THINK THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY GET THE PROVINCE TO MOVE FORWARD TO MAKE THIS A PILOT PROJECT TO WORK WITH THEM IN WHICHEVER WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM THAT THEY DEEM FIT.

THE ISSUE BECOMES THEY CANNOT MAKE THIS RESERVE LAND AND I'VE

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JUST BECAUSE YOU GIVE THEM THAT LAND, IT CANNOT BECOME RESERVE LAND SO IT STILL BECOMES MUNICIPAL PROPERTY.

THERE'S ILLUSION IN THE REPORT THAT THEY COULD DEVELOP IT, BUT IT JUST BECOMES PRIVATE PROPERTY.

IT DOES NOT BECOME RESERVE LAND.

IT'S BEEN TRIED.

I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE THAT'S BEEN OVER 14 YEARS.

IT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS THAT THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT, BUT I KNOW THE ONE THAT I WAS INVOLVED WITH UP THERE, IT COULD NOT BE CONVERTED TO RESERVE LAND.

I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF WORKING FORWARD, MOVING FORWARD, I'M JUST NOT IN FAVOR OF DOING THIS THE WAY THAT IT'S BEEN DONE AND IF THE MOVER AND SECONDER WOULD BE AMICABLE OR IF COUNCIL WOULD BE WILLING TO REMOVE THAT FINAL SENTENCE IN THE RECOMMENDATION, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR BUT I'M NOT IN FAVOR AS WRITTEN.

>> I THINK REMOVING THE FINAL LINE WOULD NEGATE THE WHOLE PURPOSE.

JUST FOR CLARITY, SASKATCHEWAN SASKATOON HAS ALREADY CREATED URBAN RESERVES WHERE LAND HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED TO THE RESERVES COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

>> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT THAT CAN'T BE DONE IN ONTARIO.

>> WHILE WE MIGHT SET A PRECEDENCE. MR. DANIEL?

>> I THINK WE'RE GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS WE CAN'T SELL IT FOR A DOLLAR TO THE SERPENT RIVER REGION ECONOMIC OR SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, WHICH WILL GET THE EXACT SAME BENEFIT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND BUY US THE TIME TO SORT OUT SOME OF THE MORE NUANCED OPPORTUNITIES OFF RESERVE LAND.

WE'RE GETTING WAY AHEAD OF OURSELVES ON THAT.

THE INTENT OF THIS MOTION IS TO RETURN THE LAND TO SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION, DETAILS YET TO BE SORTED OUT.

THE MUNICIPAL ACT PREVENTS BONUSING OF SELLING LAND AT LESS THAN MARKET VALUE TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

WE COULD DONATE LAND FOR A DOLLAR TO NON-PROFITS ALL DAY LONG SO THAT IS COMPLETELY ERRONEOUS TO GO DOWN THAT PATH.

THAT WAS CLARIFIED WITH LEGAL ALREADY.

I'M NOT SPEAKING AS A LAWYER.

I'M PARROTING WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM MR. MASCARIN.

WE OFFERED THAT AS A TRIAL BALLOON, NOT AN OFFER.

IT WAS CLEAR THAT IT WAS A CONCEPT AND IF WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL BEFORE WE CLARIFY EVERY TRIAL BALLOON AND CONCEPT, OUR MEETINGS WILL BE 10 TIMES LONGER.

WE ARE ALWAYS DISCUSSING WITH PRIVATE SECTOR PROPONENTS, NON-PROFIT PROPONENTS, MRS. SOGGY PARK COMMISSION AND FOUNDATION TALKING ABOUT CONCEPTS AND THEN WE TAKE IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR CLARITY AND SEE IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO COUNCIL AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

WE COULD HAVE DONE THIS IN CLOSED SESSION WHERE WE'RE DOING IT IN AN OPEN AND TRANSPARENT SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS PATH.

IF COUNCIL DIDN'T LIKE IT, THEY CAN JUST SIMPLY VOTE IT DOWN.

>> THANK YOU, MR. DANIEL. COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SPEAK TO THIS.

AS BEEN NOTED BY A NUMBER OF PEOPLE, THIS IS A VERY HISTORIC DAY.

I NEVER EVER THOUGHT I'D SEE THE POPE.

[LAUGHTER] [NOISE] IS SOMETHING I HAVE BELIEVED IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.

I WILL CORRECT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

WE DID NOT OFFER THE LAND, THE SERPENT RIVER.

WE DISCUSSED IT WITH THEM AND WE TOLD THEM AT THE TIME THAT WE'D BRING IT TO OUR COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION AND DECISION.

WE DID NOT OFFER ANYBODY ANYTHING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

I WANT TO THANK NOT JUST COUNSELOR MILWAUKEE, BUT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL OF SERPENT RIVER.

THEY HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC AND ALL OF THESE DISCUSSIONS ON A WIDE RANGE OF SUBJECTS.

THEY'VE BEEN OPEN AND HONEST.

THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO MAKE US FEEL AT HOME, TO MAKE US UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR PROBLEMS ARE IN DEALING WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE PROVINCE, AND WE TRIED TO MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND THE SAME PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE.

THIS IS A DISCUSSION GOING ON.

THIS IS A PROCESS THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD ON.

THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THIS NATION.

IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, MOST IMPORTANTLY TO THE CITY AND TO THIS AREA.

I THANK BOTH OF THE ELLIOTT BROTHERS FOR THEIR COMMENTS TONIGHT.

I THINK THEY WERE VERY WELL SPOKEN AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB.

WE CANNOT KEEP ON PUSHING THIS BACK. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS, OBVIOUSLY.

[LAUGHTER] GOT A BIT EMOTIONAL.

I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND I'M VERY,

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>> COUNCILLOR TURNER.

>> THANKS, YOUR WORSHIP. I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL.

I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE GOT ON TO ADDRESS THE FUTURE IN COLLABORATION WITH SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION.

THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BENEFITS TO THE TWO COMMUNITIES ARE EXTRAORDINARY.

THE FUTURE, AS YOU PUT IT FOR THE NEXT SEVEN GENERATIONS, IS WONDERFUL IF WE DO THIS.

WHAT CREATES PROSPERITY IN SERPENT RIVER CREATES PROSPERITY IN ELLIOT LAKE.

ELLIOT LAKE IS THE HUB ON THE NORTH SHORE HERE.

PEOPLE COME HERE TO SHOP, TO GO TO DOCTORS, DIFFERENT APPOINTMENTS, GET GAS, VISIT FRIENDS, AND LIVE HERE.

THIS IS JUST AN EXPANSION OF WHAT HAS BECOME THE NORM DOING BUSINESS TOGETHER.

I THINK THAT THERE HAS BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES WHICH EXIST.

RECENTLY SOMEONE USED THE EXPRESSION OF OPPORTUNITY COST.

THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY COST IN NOT DOING THIS.

WELL, WE MIGHT RAISE A FEW TAX DOLLARS FROM OTHER USES OF THE LAND.

I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY COST WOULD BE MUCH, MUCH GREATER, MULTIPLES GREATER IF WE FAILED TO START THIS CONVERSATION AND EXPAND ON IT TO DRIVE OPPORTUNITIES OF WORKING TOGETHER.

THERE'S THINGS THAT PEOPLE CAN DO OR COUNCILORS CAN DO IN SERPENT RIVER THAT WE CAN'T DO HERE AND VICE VERSA.

PUTTING OUR TWO HEADS TOGETHER, WE CAN DRIVE UPPER GOVERNMENT TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT WOULD FAVOR BOTH COMMUNITIES.

ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS SERPENT RIVER IS NOT A LAND.

THEY ARE BURDENED WITH THE REMNANTS OF AN ACID PLANT, OIL TANKER, HUGE TANKS, A RUINED GOVERNMENT WHARF AND THEIR LAND IS A CUT OUT ON THE EDGE OF LAKE HURON.

A HUGE PORTION OF IT IS SWAMP.

THE SITUATION THAT THEY HAVE BROWN LAND AND JUST PLAIN CONTAMINATED LAND FROM THE ITEMS THAT'D SPOKEN ABOUT THE S PLAN AND WELL TANKS.

WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS WE'RE GIVING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SERPENT RIVER TO EXPAND A LITTLE BY HAVING SOME LAND THAT THEY CAN PUT TO GOOD USE.

AS A RESULT, MEMBERS OF THEIR COMMUNITY, WILL VISIT HERE MORE OFTEN, WE BENEFIT MORE OFTEN.

THERE'S A SYMBIOSIS HERE THAT CAN'T BE AVOIDED.

IT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME FUTURE. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

DON'T GET ME WRONG, I AGREE WITH 99 PERCENT OF EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID HERE. YOU'RE CORRECT.

THE ELLIOTT BROTHERS DID MAKE VERY ELOQUENT REMARKS, AND THEY'RE RIGHT.

THE FACT THAT THE POPE IS HERE TODAY IS A GREAT DAY TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.

MY PREDICAMENT IS THIS HAS NOT FOLLOWED OUR LEGAL PROCESS.

WE HAVE NOT DONE THIS PROPERLY BY OFFERING THIS LAND.

AFTER THERE WAS A DISCUSSION TWICE ABOUT THIS IN CLOSED SESSION.

THEN GOING DOWN WITHOUT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO OFFER THE LAND, GIVE THE LAND YOU CAN WORD IT WHICHEVER WAY YOU WANT.

I'VE HAD TWO DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE GOTTEN DIFFERENT WORDING.

REGARDLESS, YOU'RE OFFERING LAND TO SOMEBODY THAT IS NOT APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

ETHICALLY, IN MY MIND, I CANNOT VOTE IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT FOLLOWED THE PROCESS.

I DO WANT THIS TO GO FORWARD.

I WANT TO WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH.

THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THEIR COMMUNITY, OR A LOT OF US THAT GREW UP HERE HAVE BEEN PART OF THEIR COMMUNITY.

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WE HAVE TO DO THINGS RIGHT.

FOR THAT REASON IS THE ONLY REASON THAT I'M OPPOSED TO THIS.

IF THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE PROPER, IF WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN DIRECTION AND HAD THIS BEFORE THE MEETING, I DON'T CARE IF WE'D HAD A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING.

THAT WERE PRIZED AND WE HAD FOUR MEMBERS SAY, YES, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. WE DIDN'T DO IT.

THAT'S MY PROBLEM AND I'M JUST SAD THAT AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, WE STILL AREN'T FOLLOWING OUR PROPER PROCESS.

>> JUST FOR CLARITY, WE ARE FOLLOWING THE PROCESS.

WE'RE JUST DOING AN OPEN SESSION INSTEAD OF CLOSED, 100 PERCENT.

WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND STAFF CAN BRING REPORT TO US.

WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION IN OPEN.

WE DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO SIT IN OUR COMMITTEES AND BRING A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL [OVERLAPPING].

>> YOU'RE 100 PERCENT CORRECT WITH THAT, YOUR WORSHIP, THE ISSUE IS IT WAS TAKEN DOWN TO SERPENT RIVER AND THE OFFER WAS MADE AT THEIR MEETING.

THAT WAS NOT A MEETING OF THIS COUNCIL.

>> YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT, COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

WE DID NOT GO DOWN TO SERPENT RIVER AND SAY, HEY, DO YOU WANT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? NO, WE WENT DOWN AND HAD A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PARTNERSHIPS AND WORKING TOGETHER.

I'M GOING TO THANK STEVE FOR BEING HERE BECAUSE YOU'VE LITERALLY BEEN INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING SINCE I CAN REMEMBER AND TRYING TO PULL OUR COMMUNITIES TOGETHER AND INCLUDING THE NWMO AND THAT WAS A BIG ISSUE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.

YOU'VE BEEN THERE ALL THE TIME, SO THANK YOU, STEVE FOR BEING THERE.

A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE APPOINTED BY HIS COUNCIL TO SIT ON OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE TOGETHER.

THESE ARE PART OF WHAT OUR MANDATES WERE, IS TO WORK TOGETHER.

THIS IS A MOMENTOUS DAY.

I DON'T THINK ANY OF US PLANNED FOR IT TO BE THE POPE DAY.

IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE POPE DAY, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY AWESOME TOO.

I'LL SAY IT ONCE AGAIN, WE DO LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

THIS IS THE BEST LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT WE CAN DO, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING IT MORE IN THE FUTURE.

COUNCILLOR TURNER WAS RIGHT WHEN HE SAID THAT PORTIONS OF THEIR LAND THAT THEY HAVE DOWN THERE, THAT THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN.

[LAUGHTER] A VERY SMALL CHUNK OF LAND THAT IS MOSTLY POLLUTED.

THEIR COMMUNITY IS GROWING, OUR COMMUNITY IS GROWING, THE BEST WAY TO GROW IS GROWING TOGETHER AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO CALL FOR THE ROLL CALL VOTE, COUNCILLOR TURNER.

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

>> IN FAVOR

>> COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

>> TECHNICALLY OPPOSED.

>> COUNCILLOR MANN

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNSELLOR CYR.

>> IN FAVOR

>> I'M IN FAVOR. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD DISCUSSION.

[APPLAUSE] PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS.

[8. PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS]

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

REFERRAL FROM THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE FROM OUR LAST MEETING AT THE JULY 18TH MEETING IN THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS REGARDING 2022 SECOND QUARTER UPDATE OF CAPITAL PROJECTS BE RECEIVED AND FORWARDED TO THE COUNCIL FOR INFORMATION AND THAT STAFF BE DIRECTED TO PREPARE A COST ANALYSIS REPORT WITH RECOMMENDATION OF DOING THE HILLSIDE DRIVE NORTH PROJECT IN HOUSE VERSUS CONTRACTING THE WORKOUT AND TO BRING THE REPORT TO COUNCIL AND I SO MOVE.

>> IS THERE A SECONDER? COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, COUNSELLOR CYR, DO YOU WANT TO HAND IT OVER TO MR. HALLOCH?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. HALLOCH TO EXPAND ON IT.

>> YOU DON'T WANT TO BE THE PROFESSIONAL ON THAT ONE? MR. HALLOCH.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP. I'M NOT SURE IF WE JUST WANT TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS ON CERTAIN CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE'RE UPDATING OR IF YOU WANTED ME TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE LIST.

AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT SO IF THERE IS ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR THAT YOU WANT TO ASK, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER AND GO FROM THERE.

IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WANT ME TO POINT IN ON AND DISCUSS, I COULD DO THAT AS WELL.

I'LL LEAVE IT OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH. IT IS A VERY WELL-DETAILED REPORT AND WE ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOUR QUARTERLY REPORTS AND APPRECIATE YOUR STAFF FOR SURE.

QUESTIONS, COUNCILLOR PEARCE?

>> YES. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. HALLOCH.

THERE WAS A REQUEST THAT YOU BRING A COST ANALYSIS OF GOING IN-HOUSE.

DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE ON WHEN THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO COUNCIL?

>> THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

AT THIS POINT, NO, I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE THE ONLY REASON WHY IS BECAUSE IT'S SUMMER AND NOW THAT THE BIG EVENTS, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT SOME VACATION TIME AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S ALREADY BEEN STARTED

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I'LL DO MORE OF AN IN-DEPTH LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND WE'LL SEE WHAT COSTS WE COME UP WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SERVICES.

>> COUNCILLOR FINNEMORE.

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. HALLOCH.

I'M HAPPY TO SEE THE SKATE PARK IS GOING TO BE LOOKED AT THIS YEAR.

I'M GETTING CALLS FROM PARENTS AND BEING STOPPED BY SOME YOUTH WANTING TO KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO GET FIXED.

I DROVE BY IT THE OTHER DAY TO SEE IT'S STILL TAPED OFF SO IS THERE A COST TOO? WHAT IS THE ISSUE? WHAT IS THE DELAY? KIDS ARE ASKING.

>> THE ONLY DELAY WOULD HAVE BEEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS THAT WE UTILIZED A LOT OF THE PARKS AND THE STUDENTS, AS YOU KNOW, FOR BOTH MAJOR EVENTS WHICH, AND THEN CATCHING UP WITH GRASS CUTTING AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT'S BEEN ON THE FOREFRONT.

NOW WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GETTING TO THE AUTISTIC GROUP PRIORITIZING EVERYTHING AFTER THE EVENTS AND THE SKATEBOARD PARKS DEFINITELY ON THERE AND THE REPLACEMENT WOODS ALREADY AT THE RIO DEN.

THERE WAS ALSO SOMEBODY THAT DEALS WITH THESE ITEMS A LOT MORE TO THAT WAS GOING TO VOLUNTEER AND COME WITH THE CREW, BUT THEY'RE READY TO GET IT GOING FROM THERE AND IF WE DECIDE ANYTHING IN THE FUTURE ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, THAT'LL BE A DISCUSSION WE COULD HAVE FOR THE COUNCIL MEETING, BUT WE WILL DEFINITELY BE REPAIRING THE ACTUAL RAMP SOMETIME SOON.

>> JUST ON THAT IF I MIGHT, MR. HALLOCH, WHEN MR. CRANE HAD THAT HALF-PIPE INSTALLED, HE SAID IT CAME WITH A SECOND TOP DECK REPLACEMENT BECAUSE IT ONLY NEEDS TO LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS SO WE SHOULD HAVE THAT REPLACEMENT TOP SOMEWHERE IN STORAGE, I'M IMAGINING TUCKED IN RIO DEN AND SOMEHOW.

>> I BELIEVE THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW, SO IT IS THERE AND READY TO GO.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP THROUGH YOU, I DID ATTEND THIS MEETING AND THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS MADE AND SOME QUESTIONS.

NUMBER 1 THE NAVY LEAGUE BUILDING, THE COMMENT IN THERE THAT THE INTERIOR IS NOT BUDGETED.

I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION GIVEN BACK TO STAFF.

WHEN WE APPROVED THE $40,000 BUDGET TO DO THE BUILDING, WE WERE NOT GOING TO DO THE INTERIOR, WE WERE NOT GOING TO DO THE HEATING.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF DOES UNDERSTAND THAT FROM ALL OF COUNCIL, NOT JUST FROM COMMITTEE.

THERE'S THAT ONE, THERE'S THE BRIDGE REPAIRS.

I KNOW IT'S ONLY BEEN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT YOU HAD STATED THAT THAT IS A 100 PERCENT FUNDED PROJECT AND WE LOOK LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE ALMOST WITHIN BUDGET, POTENTIALLY ON THE OUT BY HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS, WHICH I'M SURE OUR TREASURER WILL BE PLEASED TO HEAR BECAUSE SHE TELLS US WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXTRA MONEY TO SPEND AND I BELIEVE SHE'S CORRECT.

THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING IS THE NORDIC PARK STUFF THAT WE WANT TO PUT OFF UNTIL NEXT YEAR.

I UNDERSTAND WE HAVEN'T BUDGETED FOR A MAJOR OVERHAUL OF THE PARK, BUT COULD WE AT LEAST NOT SEND CREWS OVER TO CLEAN UP WHAT IS THERE? THERE'S A LOT OF OVERGROWTH, THERE'S A LOT OF SITTING AT THE COUNCIL CHAMBER SO I HAVE TO BE POLITE.

IT'S NOT IN VERY GOOD SHAPE AND I'M SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, COULD WE NOT AT LEAST JUST SEND SOME STAFF OVER TO DO SOME CLEANUP WITHOUT HAVING TO DO EQUIPMENT REPAIRS AND SPENDING EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY.

THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT CAN BE DONE WITH OUR OWN FORCES AT VERY LITTLE EXPENSE OR AN EXPENSE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO REGARDLESS, THAT BECOMES MY ONLY QUESTION OUT OF IT.

>> I'LL START WITH THE FIRST ONE, THE NAVY LEAGUE BUILDING THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

WITH THE NAVY LEAGUE BUILDING, CORRECT, WHEN FIRST COMING ON TO THE POSITION, THERE WAS A $40,000 CAPITAL EXPENSE WHICH WAS TWO FIX THE CONCRETE UNDERNEATH.

IT GOT INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH IT BEING A WATER RESERVE UNDERNEATH AND CAPPING IT OFF AND COMPLETING THAT AND THEN ADDING TO THE CONCRETE THERE.

ALSO ORDERING AND PURCHASING THE BUILDING AND HAVING IT INSTALLED.

BASICALLY, JUST THE ROOF NEEDS TO BE PUT ON RIGHT NOW.

BUT DISCUSSIONS GOING FURTHER SO WE ALSO DID SOME GRADING AROUND THE PROPERTY FOR DRAINAGE, PROPER DRAINAGE, AND STUFF LIKE THAT IN DEFENSE COMPOUND THAT'S DOWN THERE AS WELL.

BUT MOVING FORWARD, ONE OF THE THINGS WAS AT THE BEGINNING, THE INSIDE OF IT WASN'T BUDGETED FOR AS WE ALREADY KNOW, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OVER BUDGET ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW TODAY OF WHAT WE'VE COMPLETED.

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THAT'S UNLESS THERE'S ANY FUTURE CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCIL GIVING STAFF DIRECTION, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LEAVING IT AT AND IT WILL BE CONSIDERED A FACILITY.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A FACILITY BEFORE, BUT IT WOULD BE A FACILITY THAT HAS TO BE OBVIOUSLY CITY-OWNED AND TAKEN CARE OF SO SOMETHING LIKE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.

THERE'S NO BLAME ON ANYTHING [INAUDIBLE] THE CITY FACILITY BEFORE AS WELL, BUT WHERE IT WOULD HAVE REGULAR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP.

[NOISE] MOVING TO THIS SECOND ITEM THAT WAS THE BRIDGES.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BRIDGES.

WE SHOULD BE ON BUDGET.

AS EXPLAINED AT THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING, ITS ACCESS TO THESE BRIDGES THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO GET SOME OF THIS WORK COMPLETED.

I WOULD COME BACK WITH A REPORT IF WE DECIDE TO GO.

THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT WE WERE SAYING THAT THERE'S A COUPLE OF OPPORTUNITIES WE COULD TAKE.

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THE BRIDGES THAT WE WANT, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE ON HORN AND THEN THE WEST VIEW, THEY BOTH HAVE TO BE LIFTED AND JUST ADJUSTED.

THERE'S NO PANIC OF ANYTHING WORRYING ABOUT ANYBODY GETTING HURT.

I SAID, THEY ARE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES.

WE DON'T HAVE HEAVY EQUIPMENT GOING ACROSS.

WE'VE REPLACED ALL THE BOARDS ON THE WEST VIEW ONE, BUT WE HAVE TO GET EQUIPMENT TO THEM, AND THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY AT POSSIBLY GETTING A BETTER TRAIL SYSTEM A LITTLE HIGHER UP COMING FROM THE BOAT LAUNCH TO THE ACTUAL BRIDGE BECAUSE IT WILL GET THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THERE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, MAYBE WE COULD ACTUALLY CREATE THE ACCESSIBILITY TRAIL THAT STARTS THERE.

IT GOES BACK AND WE FINISH IT PROPERLY THAT WAY AT A MINIMAL COST IS WHAT WE SAW WITH THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET TO THE BRIDGE AND FIX IT ANYWAYS.

THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF LOOKING TO THE FUTURE OF GOING ALL THE WAY TO SPRUCE BEACH AND ACCESSIBILITY ONE.

THERE'LL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE TO IT THAN THAT BUT THERE IS THAT POSSIBILITY OF ACCESSIBILITY WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT A LOT MORE CONSTRUCTION AND WOOD STUFF.

WE'D BE LOOKING AT MORE OF A PATHWAY AND THEN JUST PUTTING CULVERTS AND STUFF AND WHERE THE WATER ONES ARE.

THERE'S OPPORTUNITY AS THAT MOVING FORWARD.

LASTLY, THE NORDIC PARK, THEY HAVE ALREADY STARTED TO CUT IN AND START REMOVING SOME OF THE MORE OVER FEEL THE TREES THAT ARE GOING THROUGH FENCES AND STUFF.

WE COULD TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF THAT STUFF THAT WAS AT THE ORIGINAL PARK.

IT WAS MORE OF THE THAT I WAS MENTIONING, ANY CAPITAL WOULD BE THE STUFF THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING TO RESURFACE THE CURRENT TENNIS COURT AND TURN IT INTO SOMETHING ELSE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT FOR ALL THE REST, WE COULD SEND THE CRUISE OVER THERE AND GET THINGS CLEANED UP THAT WAY FOR SURE AND PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL INTO THAT AND ADDRESS THAT.

THEN LASTLY, I WAS GOING TO MENTION IS THE ONE THING THAT YOU DIDN'T BRING UP AND I'LL BRING IT UP ANYWAYS, IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ASPHALT PAVING, THE ACTUAL ACCESSIBILITY PARKING LOT AT SPRUCE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

WE HAD A QUOTE COME THROUGH AT ONE POINT WHERE WE WERE BUDGETING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY, I BELIEVE IT WAS 25,000, TO HAVE THAT COMPLETED, BUT WE WERE LOOKING AT FINISHING IN A CRUSHER DUST.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A RANGE RIGHT NOW OF POSSIBLY 40,000 TO HAVE IT DONE IN ACTUAL ASPHALT WHERE WE COULD DRAW THE LINES AND ADD THE ACCESSIBILITY AND THAT WOULD BE A FIVE PARKING LOT SPOT.

AS I EXPLAINED AT THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING, THE ONE REASON WHY WE WANT TO PROBABLY GO THAT WAY IS LIKE A RAINSTORM LIKE YESTERDAY.

WHEN IT RAINS THAT HARD AND GOES DOWN AND YOU GOT CRUSHER DUST AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WELL, IT WOULD BE A LOT OF MORE MAINTENANCE TO IT, SO IT WOULD TURN INTO NOT AN INACCESSIBLE BEACH IF SOMEBODY IS NOT OUT THAT RATE AWAY BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW IN CERTAIN SPOTS WHEN YOU HAVE MATERIAL LIKE THAT, IT WASHES AWAY A LITTLE BIT QUICKER, SO ASPHALT WOULD BE WHAT I RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD AND I KNOW OTHER STUFF DOES AND IT'S NOT MUCH MORE OF A PRICE.

SO I'LL BRING SOMETHING BACK TO COUNCIL WITH THAT AND WE'LL SEE IF WE GET APPROVED FOR THAT TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT THAT WAS THE OTHER THING.

THEN WE COULD POSSIBLY JOIN THAT SAME PARKING LOT INTO THE TRAIL GOING FROM SPRUCE BEACH TO WEST VIEW IN THE FUTURE.

>> AWESOME. COUNSELLOR CYR.

>> EXCUSE ME, YOUR LORDSHIP. WE'VE ORDERED HEARD, SOME OF THE COMMENTARY.

THE NAVY LEAGUE BUILDING WAS DROPPED INTO THIS OMNIBUS-STYLE REPORT.

I'M INVOLVED WITH THAT ORGANIZATION, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DECLARE A CONFLICT OF INTERESTS.

I SINCERELY WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE MATTER.

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>> THANK YOU. THE CALL WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT.

>> IT WOULD BE WRITTEN IF IT DID.

>> THANK COUNSELLOR CYR.

>> THANK YOU LORDSHIP. I JUST LIKE TO EXPAND ON THE PORTION OF THE REPORT THAT SAYS AND THAT STAFF BE DIRECTED TO PREPARE A COST ANALYSIS REPORT WITH RECOMMENDATION OF DOING THE HILLSIDE DRIVE NORTH PROJECT IN-HOUSE VERSUS CONTRACTING TO WORK OUT AND BRING THE REPORT BY THE COUNCIL.

THE INTENT OF THAT WAS TO SEE IF THERE'LL BE ANY COST-SAVINGS WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT DOING AT LEAST SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE WORK IN-HOUSE AND MAYBE JUST CONTRACT OUT THE PAVING SO THAT, OBVIOUSLY WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO HIRE MORE STAFF FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

BUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TREMENDOUS COST INCREASES THAT CONTRACTORS ARE GIVING US FOR DOING ALL THIS WORK, THERE MAY POSSIBLY BE SOME SAVINGS BY DOING IT IN-HOUSE OVER THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE LINED UP FOR THE NEXT 10, 20 YEARS.

IT'S JUST SO THAT WE CAN GET A DOLLAR FIGURE ATTACHED WITH THAT REPORTS SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT CAN WE DO IN-HOUSE AND WHAT CAN'T WE DO?

>> CORRECT, THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

>> THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHO TO DIRECT THIS TO, I DON'T WANT TO PUT COUNSELOR TOM INTO ANY CONFLICT HERE, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S AT LEAST ONE ORGANIZATION THAT IS CONTACTED ME CONCERNING WHETHER OR NOT THEY COULD USE THE SO-CALLED NAVY LEAGUE BUILDING.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE CONTACTED ANYBODY ON STAFF, MR. GAGNON OR YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT? THEN I WILL ASK THE QUESTION.

WOULD THE CITY BE AMENABLE TO AN ORGANIZATION IN TOWN, A NOT-FOR-PROFIT UTILIZING THAT FACILITY?

>> WE'RE OPEN-MINDED SIR, MAYBE IT'S A FREE COUNTRY.

WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO TALKING TO THEM.

WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A DEEPER CONVERSATION AS TO THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, THE PROPOSED USE OF OTHERS, AND WHAT WAS PROMISED TO THE NAVY LEAGUE BACK WHEN, SO WE'D HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH.

WE'RE ALL PUBLIC SERVANTS. WE'RE OPEN TO DISCUSSING ANYTHING.

>> WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OFF.

>> JUST ON THAT COUNCILLOR PEARCE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE CONTRACT WITH THE NAVY LEAGUE, DIRECT THEM TO SPEAK WITH THE NAVY LEAGUE FOR SHARED USE, POSSIBLY.

THAT'S WHY WE STILL REFER TO IT AS THE NAVY LEAGUE BUILDING.

I'VE BEEN REACHED UP BY THE SAME INDIVIDUAL AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THEY NEED TO COME TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT A SHARED USE UNLESS THAT CONTRACT'S COMPLETELY NULL AND VOID AND GONE NOW, WHICH THEN ADMIN NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT IN ON THAT TOO. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. HALLOCH.

I HOPE WHEN YOU BRING FORWARD THE REPORT OF MOVING THE PROJECT IN-HOUSE, THAT YOU CERTAINLY BUILD CAPACITY INTO THAT REPORT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY EXACT MEMBERS WE HAVE IN PUBLIC WORKS, BUT I KNOW IT USED TO BE 14 OR 15 WITH DEDICATED PEOPLE THAT HAVE DEDICATED JOBS THAT DON'T WORK ON OUR ROADS, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU WOULD HAVE TO HIRE IN ORDER TO BUILD CAPACITY TO DO THIS JOB IN HOUSE.

I KNOW THAT OUR PUBLIC WORKS STAFF ARE ALREADY DEALING WITH DAILY [NOISE] EMERGENCIES THAT HAPPEN AND THEIR REGULAR WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, SO I SINCERELY HOPE THAT CAPACITY IS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE LIST.

>> I JUST SAW ALSO WANTED TO COMMENT ON THAT TOO AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S TOUGH ON STAFF IS THAT ALL THE CONTRACTORS THAT USUALLY COME IN AND DO THE SUMMER JOBS, A LOT OF THEM WORK 12, 14, 16 HOUR DAYS AT WHAT THEIR WAGE IS, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER TIME AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT INTO THE EQUATION AS WELL PLUS THE CAPITAL COSTS FOR A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR FLEET.

>> COUNSELOR PATRIE.

>> THANK YOU. WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

IF I MAY JUST GO BACK TO HILLSIDE DRIVE NORTH.

IT WAS DISCUSSED THERE ABOUT POTENTIALLY MAKING THIS A THREE-YEAR PROJECT AS OPPOSED TO A TWO-YEAR PROJECT THAT THE COMMITTEE.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REITERATE WHAT I SAID AT THAT MEETING.

I THINK THAT WE'RE NOT JUST SHOULD BE LOOKING AT GOING IN-HOUSE ABOUT DOING THIS WORK.

BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO IN HOUSE, YOU'RE GOING TO DELAY THIS PROJECT ANOTHER TWO OR THREE YEARS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME AND MONEY TO GET TO THAT POINT.

BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT SCALES OF ECONOMY AND DOING MORE WORK AT A TIME

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WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH AN ITEM FURTHER ON THAT WE HAVE ONE PROPONENT, AND ONE PROPONENT ONLY.

IF WE MAKE THIS PROJECT INTO A TWO OR THREE-YEAR PROJECT, YOU ARE GOING TO BE LIMITED TO LOCAL SMALLER COMPANIES BIDDING IT IF WE MAKE IT BIG ENOUGH.

THE ANALOGY I USED WHEN WE WERE AT THE PUBLIC SERVICE MEETING WAS, FOR INSTANCE ACON IS WORKING RIGHT NOW DOWN ON HIGHWAY 17, COMING THROUGH 65 KILOMETERS FROM HERE.

I'M SURE THEY'RE PROBABLY PLANNING ON COMING FURTHER WEST NEXT YEAR.

THE PROVINCE USUALLY DOES THAT ALL IN SECTIONS.

IF WE COULD GET THIS TENDERED AND I KNOW I GET IT.

THE REPORTS OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T MADE IT BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE BROUGHT THEM TONIGHT SO THAT WE CAN TRY AND FAST-TRACK THIS TO GET MOVING ON IT.

BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE ENTERTAINING THE IDEA OF DOING THIS ABSOLUTELY ALL AS A ONE-YEAR PROJECT WITH PENALTIES FOR NOT HAVING IT DONE IN TIME.

WE HAVE SOME OTHER STUFF IN THE WORKS AS WELL THAT WE COULD PIGGYBACK AND TENDER THEM TOGETHER SO THAT WE COULD GET ECONOMIES OF SCALE SO THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET SOME OF THESE BIGGER OPERATIONS, FAMILIAR PAINTINGS THE ACORNS OF THE WORLD TO COME AND POTENTIALLY SAVE US.

NOT JUST SAVE US MONEY, BUT ALSO SAVE US TIME AND GET THIS INFRASTRUCTURE WORK DONE.

WE HAVEN'T DONE ENOUGH INFRASTRUCTURE WORK IN MY OPINION, IN THE LAST YEARS, AND TO DELAY THIS PROJECT ANOTHER.

WELL WE'RE GOING TO END UP DELAYING IT UNTIL NEXT YEAR, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO HOPE TO DO IT THIS YEAR.

IF WE DELAY IT TILL NEXT YEAR AND MAKE IT A THREE-YEAR PROJECT, EVERYTHING IS JUST GETTING WORSE.

WE HAVE TO START MOVING ON STUFF A LITTLE QUICKER IS MY OPINION.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO COMMENT ON THAT TOO, AS WELL AS THE RECOMMENDATION CAME OUT, I WAS MORE LOOKING AT IT FOR FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS MORE THAN THE HILLSIDE PROJECTS.

IF THERE WAS FUTURE ROAD PROJECTS, I WOULD LOOK AT WHAT IT WOULD COST TO GET AND ASK FOR MOBILE LITTLE PLANT AND STUFF LIKE THAT, STUFF THAT IF WE NEEDED TO DO IT AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR CERTAIN THINGS AND WE'LL LOOK AT STUFF LIKE THAT.

IT'S NOT IN PARTICULAR TO THE HILLSIDE PROJECT, BUT I DO AGREE WITH LANGUAGE IN SOME OF THE RFPS AND TENDERS THAT GO OUT THAT YOU COULD HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE IF YOU FINISH THE PROJECT AHEAD OF TIME, THAT THERE COULD BE A FINANCIAL BONUS THAT WAY BECAUSE IT'S A BONUS TO THE CITY TO HAVE THE ACTUAL PROJECT DONE, AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE LIQUIDATION COSTS IF THEY GO PAST THAT DATE.

WHICH MAKES THEM HIRE MORE PEOPLE BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO LET THEM HAVE THREE YEARS AND THEY'RE GOING TO HIRE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO GET THAT DONE IN THREE YEARS.

IF WE'RE GOING TO TELL THEM TWO YEARS WITH LIQUIDATION COSTS, THEY'RE GOING TO GET THAT PROJECT DONE QUICKER AND HIRE MORE PEOPLE.

THESE ARE THINGS WE LOOK AT AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS I THINK WE HAVE TO DO IS GET RFPS AND TENDERS OUT THE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, OR DECEMBER OF THE YEAR BEFORE SO THAT WE CAN GET A LOT MORE BIDDING ON IT SO PEOPLE THAT ARE SEARCHING OUT THERE SUMMER JOBS FOR THE NEXT YEAR, INSTEAD OF GETTING THEM OUT MARCH OF THE YEAR OF THAT, THEN WE'RE LIMITED AGAIN TO WHO WE'RE GOING TO GET. [NOISE]

>> THANK YOU MR. HALLOCH.

I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH COUNSELOR PATRIE.

I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS ACTUALLY THAT WE NEED TO DO MORE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT JUST THE ROADS THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE.

I KNOW WE HAD LEROY CONSTRUCTION DO ONE OF THE PROJECTS FOR US.

I DON'T REMEMBER IF THAT WAS THE PINER POPULAR THEY DID AND WE HAD JC CONSTRUCTION COME IN AND THEY ALL WORKED WITH LOCAL, THEY WORKED WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] AND BEMIS ALSO.

SO IT CREATED A LOT OF WORKING FRENZY FOR EVERYBODY.

I'D UNDERSTOOD IN THE PAST THAT IT WAS A DIFFICULTY IN GETTING THOSE ECONOMIES OF SCALE HERE IN ELLIOT LAKE, AND GETTING ENOUGH FOR THE COMPANIES TO COME HERE AND DO THE LABOR ALONG WITH BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU FIGURE THAT IF WE GET AN RFP IN EARLIER SAY OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER FOR THE NEXT SEASON, WE CAN SEE SOME OF THIS WORK BEING DONE THE MOMENT THE GROUND IS THAWED, AND LOOK AT TAKING A COUPLE OF JOBS ON BECAUSE AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, ROMAN, MAYPOLE.

THERE WAS A COUPLE OF STREETS THAT WERE AHEAD OF HILLSIDE, BUT HILLSIDE WAS BUMPED UP DUE TO SOME OF THE SINKHOLES AND CRUSHED INFRASTRUCTURE.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, IS THAT THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR US IS TO GET THIS OUT OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, FOR THE FOLLOWING SEASON SO WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY?

>> YEAH, THROUGH YOU WORSHIP MY OPINION IS 100 PERCENT AND WE KNEW THIS ALL ALONG.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE DELAYS AND IT PUSHES OVER BY THE TIME YOU'RE COMPLETING ECAS AND EVERYTHING FROM THERE.

BUT WE GOT TO GET ALL THAT DONE PREVIOUS YEAR AND GETTING OUT IN OCTOBER AND YOU'RE RIGHT,

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I BELIEVE WITH COUNSELOR PATRIE, AS WE BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST, THAT WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON SOME OF THESE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME ROADS JUST GETTING RESURFACED LIKE WE DID IN THE PAST WITHOUT THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE BEING DONE AND WE'LL JUST GET TO IT WHEN WE GET TO IT BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A PLAN.

WE'VE GOT SO MANY ROADS THAT LET'S RESURFACE SOME OF THOSE ROADS AT THE SAME TIME AND GET BACK TO THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE.

HAVE OUR MANY YEARS LATER, KNOWING THAT WE STILL HAVE TIME WITH THAT, IT'S NOT IN BAD SHAPE THAT WAY.

THAT'S THE PLAN AND I THINK IT WILL LOOK GOOD THIS YEAR.

THIS YEAR WILL REALLY TELL THE TALE TO WHEN WE GET A BIG PROJECT LIKE HILLSIDE OUT, AT LEAST GET THE RFP OUT SEPTEMBER OCTOBER.

SEE WHAT TYPE OF PRICING WE GET FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR, AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL WITH ALL THE COSTING AND HOWEVER MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BID ON IT AT THAT POINT.

>> THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH. HOPEFULLY IT DOESN'T GIVE NESON AND BERG A HEART ATTACK WHEN WE SEE THAT.

IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, MR. GANIEL.

>> I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE ONE PROJECT WHERE THE WEST VIEW PARK VISIBLE ROOF, I'M NOT SURE IF COUNCIL HAS REALLY SEIZED ON THAT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE PUBLIC HAS EITHER, BUT WE'RE PROPOSING TO PAINT WHAT'S CURRENTLY A DRY BROWN ROOF WITH SOME FAIRLY VIBRANT COLORS FROM EITHER THE SHADE SAILS OR PRIMARY COLORS FROM A RAINBOW WHATNOT.

>> FULL RAINBOW.

>> WE'RE ALL OKAY WITH THAT.

I JUST DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE ALARMED ON TUESDAY MORNING WHEN THEY WAKE UP AND WE'VE ALTERED THE LANDSCAPE OF THAT WELL-LIKED PARK, OF COURSE.

>> THANK YOU. MORE COLOR THE BETTER.

WITH THAT, I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR. THIS ONE IS CARRIED. THANK YOU.

COUNCILLOR TURNER CAN RETURN TO HIS SEAT.

8.2, REFERRAL FROM THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, STREET LIGHT CABINET AND CONTROL BOX. COUNSELLOR CYR.

>> REGARDING THE REPORT FROM DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS STREET LIGHT CABINET AND CONTROL BOX AT THE JULY 18TH MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED.

THAT STAFF REPORT DATED JULY 7 2022 OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED AND THAT IT'D BE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL FOR THE APPROVAL TO PURCHASE A 332 CABINET AND CONTROLLER FROM STEEL CONTROL SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $36,718 PLUS HST AND THAT THE COST IS BUDGETED TOWARDS THE ANNUAL EMERGENCY ROADS CAPITAL ACCOUNT FOR 2022, AND I ALSO MOVE.

>> SECONDER.

>> SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR MANN.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, COUNSELOR CYR.

[OVERLAPPING] MR. HALLOCH, TO EXPAND ON THE DETAILS.

>> THANK YOU. THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

AS DISCUSSED, THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING, THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE OWNS AND MAINTAINS FOUR SETS OF STREET LIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT WERE INSTALLED IN THE EARLY '80S TO HELP CONTROL THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC IN AN ORGANIZED AND SAFE MANNER.

OVER THE PAST 15 YEARS, ALL FOUR SETS OF LIGHTS HAVE BEEN MAINTAINED AND UPGRADED BY STEEL CONTROL SERVICES FROM THE CITY OF SUDBURY.

THE STREETLIGHTS HAD HIGHWAY 108 AND HILLSIDE DRIVE SOUTH HAD BEGUN SHOWING THEIR AGE AS THEY HAVE BEEN FREQUENTLY GOING OUT OF SERVICE DUE TO FAULTY WIRING AND OLDER EQUIPMENT.

THIS HAS BECOME A CONCERN AS THE LIGHTS ARE NORMALLY SUPPOSED TO DEFAULT TO A FLASHING RED FOR HILLSIDE DRIVE SOUTH TRAFFIC, AND A FLASHING YELLOW FOR THE HIGHWAY 108 TRAFFIC HAVING THE RIGHT AWAY.

INSTEAD, WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IS THE FLASHING YELLOW HAS BEEN COMING ON FOR THE HIGHWAY 108 TRAFFIC AND NO FLASHING RED FOR THE HILLSIDE DRIVE SOUTH TRAFFIC.

THIS ACTUALLY PUTS THE CITY OUT OF COMPLIANCE AND COULD RESULT IN AN ACCIDENT WHERE THE CITY WOULD BE LIABLE.

MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE LOOKING AT STEEL CONTROL SERVICES WILL SUPPLY AND INSTALL A NEW CABINET AND CONTROLLER.

UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, IT'S GOING TO TAKE 48 WEEKS TO HAVE DELIVERED AFTER BEING APPROVED AND ORDERED.

AS STATED ABOVE IN A RECENT TRIP TO FIX THE STREETLIGHTS THE COMPANY STRONGLY RECOMMENDED THAT THE TRAFFIC CABINET AND CONTROLLER BE PURCHASED AND REPLACED AS THEY ARE AT THE END OF THEIR SERVICE LIFE AND DESPERATELY NEED REPLACING TO ALLOW SAFE AND PROPER OPERATION OF THE SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION.

AS WE KNOW THE QUOTED COST IS 36,718 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN BUDGETED IN 2022 CAPITAL RESERVE, SO WE'D BE LOOKING AT BUDGETING IT TOWARDS THE ANNUAL EMERGENCY ROADS CAPITAL ACCOUNT, WHICH HAS A VALUE OF 300,000 IN IT.

BASICALLY THE SUMMARY IS JUST RECOMMENDED THAT THE PRICE SUBMITTED BY STEEL CONTROL SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT STATED ABOVE $36,718.50.

TAXES REGARDING THE PURCHASE AND INSTALL OF THE CONTROLLER FOR THE STREET LIGHT AND HUB WE WENT TO WAIT AND HILLSIDE NORTH BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO MENTION TOO THAT HAPPENS IS WHEN THIS LIGHT DOES GO OUT, WE HAVE TO AUTOMATICALLY RESPOND TO IT, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT WAS GOING OUT OF COMPLIANCE AND NOT DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO.

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THIS IS VERY PRICEY.

WE KNOW IT'S AGING, WE KNOW IT'S OLDER.

LIKE I WAS STATING AT THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING, I BELIEVE THESE WERE INHERITED OR GIFTED TO THE CITY FROM THE MTO BACK IN THE DAY.

THIS WILL GET US ALL BACK AND UP AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT THE OTHER ONES IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.

I KNOW THERE MIGHT BE QUESTIONS OF PEOPLE ASKING OF WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, BUT WE'VE ALSO UPGRADED THE WALK SIGNALS GOING ACROSS AND STUFF GIVING AN ACTUAL VISUAL AND AUDIO.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE. I BELIEVE IT WAS 2011 WHEN WE'VE DONE THOSE.

ALSO, THE OTHER THING TOO THAT MIGHT GET ASKED IS NORMALLY THAT LIGHT SHOULD STAY GREEN FOR THE HIGHWAY THE WHOLE TIME UNTIL SOMEBODY PULLS UP ON HILLSIDE SOUTH, AND THEN IT'LL ACTUALLY CHANGE.

BUT THE ACTUAL SENSOR STRIP UNDERNEATH IS NOT ACTIVATING, SO IT'S JUST GOING ON AT TIME SYSTEM RIGHT NOW. THAT'S ANOTHER THING.

MOST OF THOSE ARE ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO STAY GREEN FOR THE TRAFFIC ZONES LIKE THE HIGHWAY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

[NOISE]

>> THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH. COUNCILOR PATRIE.

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

[NOISE] A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE ALSO DISCUSSED AT THE PUBLIC SERVICE MEETING.

YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT STILL CONTROLS SAID THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE TO REPLACE THE MTO SPEC COSTLY INFRASTRUCTURE BOX AND CONTROL SYSTEM.

HAVE YOU MOVED ANY FURTHER ON THAT AT BEING ABLE TO REDUCE THE PRICE FROM THIS REPORT? THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION, I HAVE A COUPLE MORE IF I MAY AFTER.

>> THROUGH YOU WORSHIP. JUST TO ANSWER THAT, ANDRE NOW THE GENTLEMAN I'M DEALING WITH IS ON VACATION.

I'M JUST WAITING FOR HIM TO GET BACK TO ME.

BUT YES, HE IS ALSO GOING TO PRICE OUT A, I BELIEVE HE CALLED IT AN AXIS.

HE SAYS THAT THE ONES THAT ARE IN THERE, THE MTO UNITS AND CONTROL BOXES ARE HEAVY-DUTY AND WE WOULDN'T NEED TO GO TO THAT.

I'M STILL WAITING TO HEAR FROM HIM, SO WHETHER APPROVED AND IF WE HAVE TO AMEND TO SAY [NOISE] THAT WE GO TO THE OTHER ONE, WHICH COULD BE IN THERE AS WELL.

BUT IF HE COMES BACK TO ME AND SAYS HE CAN GET THAT AND POSSIBLY EVEN HAVING IT IN STOCK OR WHATEVER, THAT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER OPTION AND I THINK WE SHOULD GO THAT WAY IF THAT DOES GIVE US THAT OPTION.

[NOISE]

>> YEAH. IF I MAY, SORRY.

[LAUGHTER] I'D ALSO MENTIONED THE WAY THAT THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT IS SET, WHEN IT DEFAULTS TO A FAILURE, IT'S YELLOWS AND REDS, SO IT'S RED ON HILLSIDE SOUTH AND IT'S YELLOWS ON THE HIGHWAY, AND THERE'S A PREDICAMENT THAT THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THOSE LIGHTS WORK.

YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY STOPPING ON THE YELLOW LIGHT WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO YIELD ON THE YELLOW LIGHT.

THEN YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST GOING THROUGH, WHICH IS THE PROPER THING THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO ON THE YELLOW LIGHT AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO STOP AT THE RED.

CAN WE NOT CHANGE THAT TO ALL REDS? BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN ACCIDENTS.

I'VE SEEN VERY MANY CLOSE CALLS AS WELL WITH THE ISSUE THAT PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWING THE LAW AND DOING THE PROPER ASPECT OF WHAT THAT YELLOW FLASHING LIGHT IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN, THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO SLOW DOWN, YIELD AND CONTINUE THROUGH.

THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO STOP AND ALLOW THE PERSON THAT THE RED TO GO. HAVE WE LOOKED INTO THAT? IS THERE THE POSSIBILITY OF CHANGING THAT? EITHER WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEM UNTIL THE NEW SYSTEM COMES IN OR AND HAVING THE NEW SYSTEM DEFAULT TO THE REDS ALL THREE WAYS?

>> SORRY. THANK YOU WORSHIP THROUGH YOU AS WELL.

YEAH, THIS WAS ANOTHER QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK ANDRE AS WELL TO SEE IF WE WANT TO GO TO BASICALLY MAKING IT A FOUR-WAY OR A THREE-WAY STOP.

I HOPE THAT WOULD BRING ANY MORE CONFUSING TO ANYBODY.

I'LL ASK HIM AND SEE BECAUSE I'M NOT TOO SURE IF WE'RE COMPLIANT AT THAT POINT.

BUT IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I'LL ASK HIM AND IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION COUNCIL WANTS TO GO, WE CAN GO THAT WAY FOR SURE.

BUT YEAH, I DO REALIZE THE FLASHING YELLOW, AND IF WE GET THE WORD OUT MORE AND POSSIBLY PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE IF WE STAY THIS WAY, I'VE SEEN ALL THE DEBATES AND EVERYTHING AS WELL.

BUT ALWAYS THAT HIGHWAY TRAFFIC GOING ACROSS HAS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SUPPOSED TO FLASH YELLOW WHERE ANYTHING COMING OFF HILLSIDE IS SUPPOSED TO STOP.

I HOPE THE RED ON RED WOULDN'T CONFUSE ANYBODY ANYMORE, BUT AT LEAST THAT SHOWS EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE TO STOP THEN GO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD SLOW THINGS DOWN ON BUSY DAYS IF YOU HAVE THE FLASHING LIGHT.

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>> FINAL FOLLOW-UP. [NOISE]

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP. FINALLY. THE LAST THING IS WHEN WE ARE HAVING THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE EXISTING CONTROL BOX, IF WE HAVE TO PUT IT IN THE SAME ONE OR IF WE CAN GET THE NEW AND THE NEXT STYLE UNIT, CAN WE NOT HAVE STAFF TRAINED SO THAT WE'RE NOT PAYING THESE EXORBITANT CALL-OUT RATES.

YOU SAID THAT WE HAD TO PAY FOR 10 CALL-OUT RATES ON A WEEKEND.

USUALLY IT IS JUST A RESET BUTTON THAT THEY HAVE TO RESET.

IT'S ALL COMPUTERIZED.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TRAIN SOMEBODY ON CALL OR A FEW PEOPLE ON CALL TO BE ABLE TO JUST GO AND OPEN THE BOX, DO THE RESET BUTTON SO THAT WE'RE NOT SPENDING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS HAVING SOMEBODY COME FROM SUDBURY TO PUSH A BUTTON.

>> YEAH. MOST TIMES WE DON'T CALL SUDBURY, IT HAPPENS OFTEN.

I WAS TALKING TO MR. DOYLE ABOUT THIS TOO.

THE WAY WE LOOK AT THE ZIP THIS HAPPENS, IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE WITH A PUMP OR ANYTHING.

WE EXPECT PEOPLE TO CALL THE CITY ELECTRICIAN.

THERE'S SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST RESETTING THE BUTTON THAT'S HAPPENING.

ONE OTHER THING I DIDN'T REALLY MENTION TO COUNSEL AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A CONCRETE BASE UNDERNEATH IT, I BELIEVE 12 INCHES THICK.

BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, THE CITY IS GOING TO DIG AROUND IT AND WE'RE GOING TO ADD AN A OR A B GRAVEL AROUND IT BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THE CULPRITS MIGHT BE MICE GETTING INTO THESE CABINETS AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO WITH WIRING.

BUT YEAH, I 100 PERCENT AGREE THAT IT'LL BE THE CITY ELECTRICIAN BEING TRAINED ON IT PLUS MORE THAN ONE PERSON, IT WILL PROBABLY BE THREE OR FOUR.

BUT ULTIMATELY, THE CITY ELECTRICIAN SHOULD GET CALLED AFTER THIS HAPPENS REPEATEDLY AND GET HIM OUT THERE AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING TO DO WITH WIRING OR SOMETHING THAT HE COULD FIX AS WELL.

[NOISE]

>> COUNCILLOR MANN.

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP. INITIALLY I HAD ONE COMMENT, BUT NOW I HAVE TWO BASED ON THE MOST RECENT DISCUSSION.

THROUGH YOU TOO MR. HALLOCH, I BELIEVE HE ANSWERED MY FIRST QUESTION, WHICH WAS THE CONDITION OF THE BALANCE OF THE BOXES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT REVIEW IS GOING TO BE UNDERWAY AND THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT WOULD BE REGARDING THE POTENTIAL THREE-WAY STOP ON THE HIGHWAY.

I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND AGAINST THAT.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC IS THE SAME AS WHAT WE HAVE AT HILLSIDE AND MISSISSAUGA BY THE HIGH SCHOOL AS AN EXAMPLE, MID-MORNING, ANY DAY OF THE WEEK, THERE IS TRAFFIC BACKED UP BEYOND THE GAS STATION AT LEAST IN THAT DIRECTION AND THE OTHER WAY AND TO TURN THAT INTO A THREE-WAY STOP, I CAN'T IMAGINE THE CHALLENGES THAT WOULD CREATE.

>> JUST WHEN IT'S BLINKING.

>> AGAIN, EMERGENCY SETTING ONLY.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK THE POTENTIAL DOES EXIST FOR MORE PROBLEMS IF WE WERE TO DO THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP. MORE OF A COMMENT TO MR. HALLOCH.

I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE SENSORS REPAIRED.

I MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAS SAT AT MANITOBA AND [NOISE] HIGHWAY 108 AND MAYBE GONE THROUGH A RED LIGHT ON OCCASION WHEN THEY DON'T TURN TO A DIFFERENT COLOR, AND I'M NOT SURE LEGALLY HOW LONG ONE PERSON IS SUPPOSED TO SIT THERE AND WAIT FOR IT TO TURN TO BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT.

BUT I GUESS IT'S SAME SITUATION WHEN THERE'S A POWER OUTAGE AND THERE IS A RED LIGHT AND THERE IS A YELLOW LIGHT AT SOME POINT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO CORRECT.

I'M GLAD THOSE SENSORS ARE GOING TO BE FIXED BECAUSE I WOULD HATE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO MAYBE BREAK THE LAW ONCE IN AWHILE WHEN AFTER 10 MINUTES THEY HAVEN'T PROCEEDED ANYWHERE.

>> COUNCILLOR TURNER.

>> THANK YOU WORSHIP. MR. HALLOCH, YOU REFERRED TO THE MAGNETIC STRIP ON HILLSIDE SOUTH 108 WAS MALFUNCTIONING.

IS THAT ON YOUR REPAIR LIST IN THE NEAR FUTURE?

>> WHEN I'VE TALKED TO ANDRE, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.

HE MENTIONED THAT IT WAS DEFINITELY MALFUNCTIONING TO US.

WE KNEW THE BIG THING WAS TO GET THE CONTROL BOX AND EVERYTHING DONE.

YEAH, WE'LL GET EVERYTHING DONE AT THE SAME TIME.

THERE'S ALREADY A CUT IN THE ASPHALT.

WHERE IT WAS PUT BACK IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS 2011.

I DON'T WANT TO 100 PERCENT SAY THAT, BUT I BELIEVE SOMETIME AROUND THAT WAS WHEN IT WAS UPGRADED TO THAT.

YEAH, HE MENTIONED THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D PROBABLY WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO, SO WE'LL GET THAT DONE AT THE SAME TIME.

>> YOU WILL PROCEED WITH THAT AT THE SAME TIME.

>> YEAH.

>> GREAT. THANKS.

MY QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. HALLOCH, IF WE'RE DIGGING RIGHT DOWN THROUGH THE CONCRETE BASE, WOULD THIS BE A TIME WHERE WE COULD POTENTIALLY MOVE THE TRAFFIC LIGHT OVER FOR A FUTURE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A TURNING LANE FOR THE GAS STATION BECAUSE AGAIN, I REMEMBER THERE HAS BEEN A FEW FENDER BENDERS IN THAT INTERSECTION.

WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS IN PREVIOUS BUDGETS.

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JUST CURIOUS OF, IS THIS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN MAYBE MOVE THE POLE OVER A BIT AND PREPARE FOR IT.

>> AT THIS POINT THAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND.

THAT'S THE SAME AS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HILLSIDE, WHICH IS WITH SOME BIG DELAYS AND REPLACING THE LIGHTS THAT ARE THERE TO UPGRADED ONES.

ALL I CAN SAY IS BY WHAT I'VE SEEN LATELY LIKE WHEN THE LIGHTS ARE WORKING PERFECT.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN A BIG BACKUP OF TRAFFIC ANYMORE. THAT'S THE HONEST TRUTH.

I AGREE WITH YOU 100 PERCENT THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE SPOTS THAT ALWAYS CONCERNED ME.

BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT ANYTHING IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE JUST NOT LOOKING AT A SMALLER PROJECT ANYMORE.

WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A COSTLY ONE TO GET THINGS MOVED AND NEITHER ASPHALT OUT THE LANE A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THE GRASS AREA.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT IT IN THE FUTURE.

I KNOW ONE OF THE BIG ONES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TWO WAS MORE OF THE ENTRANCE WAYS INTO SOME OF THE BUSIER PLACES LIKE TIM HORTON'S NOW THAT SEEMS TO BE BETTER WITH THE DOUBLE DRIVE THROUGH NOW.

I HAVEN'T NOTICED TRAFFIC STICKING OUT AS MUCH AS I HAVE IN THE PAST.

>> SUNDAY MORNING.

>> SUNDAY MORNING? [LAUGHTER]

>> LAST QUESTION HAD THE ANSWER ALREADY.

BUT FOR THOSE WATCHING AT HOME, A LOT OF PEOPLE BUT ASKING CAN WE TURN THESE TRAFFIC LIGHT AREAS IN THE ROUNDABOUTS?

>> IT'S NOT A BAD QUESTION.

I KNOW A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES ARE STARTING TO DO IT.

AS I STATED TO, CALLING WHAT WAS DOING IT.

SMALLER CITIES OR SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES LIKE MARUA.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS, IS RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO ACTUALLY DO THAT IN THOSE AREAS, ESPECIALLY THOSE ONES.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING HONESTLY THAT WOULD BE VERY COSTLY AND WE ALL LOVE ROUNDABOUTS.

>> [LAUGHTER] I WAS TRYING TO PICTURE WITH A TRANSPORT TRUCK GETTING THROUGH A ROUNDABOUT IN THAT INTERSECTION.

I JUST NEEDED TO BRING THAT FORWARD THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE ON THIS ONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.

8.3 REFERRAL FROM THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS SURFACE TREATMENT OF SIX KILOMETERS OF DUNLOP SHORE ROAD. COUNSELLOR CYR.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. AT THE JULY 18TH MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED, THAT STAFF REPORT DATED JULY 11TH, 2022, OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED AND THAT IT'D BE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL TO APPLY A DOUBLE SURFACE TREATMENT LAYER TO 6,000 LINEAR METERS OF DUNLOP SHORES ROAD AND THE AMOUNT OF $675,000 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES TO BEMIS CONSTRUCTION, INC. AND THAT'D BE BUDGETED FROM THE 2022 INTERIOR COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE FUND LOCATED IN THE PUBLIC WORKS ROADS RESERVE. I SO MOVE.

>> SECONDER, PLEASE. SECOND, BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.

I'D ASKED FOR MR. HALLOCH TO EXPAND ON THE DETAILS.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP. THROUGH YOU AS DISGUST AT THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING AS WELL.

DUNLOP SHORES ROAD IS 15.06 KILOMETER GRAVEL ROAD THAT COMPLETED IN 2007.

IT'S CLASSIFIED AS A LOCAL, RURAL AND DIVIDED.

THE MUNICIPALITY HAS TAKEN A NUMBER OF STEPS OVER THE YEARS, INCLUDING THE APPLICATION OF GRANULAR MEDIA TO ENSURE THAT THE ROAD MEETS THE OPERATIONAL NEEDS OF THE USERS, BOTH SEASONAL AND YEAR-ROUND RESIDENTIAL.

BACKGROUND IS IN 2013 A TENDER WAS RELEASED CALLING FOR THE APPLICATION OF GRANULAR FINISHED SURFACE ON 10.5 KILOMETERS DUNLOP SHORES ROAD.

DUE TO THE INCREASE OF COSTS AT THE TIME THAT TENDER SUBMISSION EXCEEDED THE BUDGETED AMOUNTS.

AS SUCH, THE DECISION WAS MADE TO SPLIT THE PROJECT BETWEEN TWO YEARS, COMPLETING THE ENTIRE THING.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE EXPENSE OF EVEN GRAVEL GOING ON WAS 404,000 WHICH WAS USED AT THE FEDERAL GAS TAX MONEY, AND THEN ANOTHER 179,000 COMPLETED.

IN 2019, THE CITY ADDED AN ADDITIONAL 75 MILLIMETERS OF THE M GRAVEL TO THE FIRST 5,000 LINEAR METERS ROAD AT A COST OF 240,000.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE NOW WHEN IT COMES TO THE GRAVEL ROADS BEST PRACTICES TO BE FOLLOWED AS THE ADDITION OF 75 MILLIMETERS OF ARM GRAVEL EVERY FIVE YEARS TO MAKE UP FOR THE GRAVEL LOSS DUE TO WINTER PLOWING, SUMMER, READING, WET WEATHER EVENTS, AND LASTLY, EXCESSIVE SPEEDS THAT ARE DRIVEN.

PUBLIC WORKS OFFICE HAS RECEIVED SEVERAL COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS LIVING IN THE AREA OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS REGARDING THE STATE OF THE ROAD.

WE'VE DONE OUR OWN INVESTIGATION AND KNOW THAT IT'S DOWN TO LIKE A BEAT GRAVEL ON MAJORITY OF THE ROAD FROM FIVE KILOMETER MARK TO THE 11 KILOMETER MARK, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MORE POPULAR AREAS DUE TO THE DUNLOP SHORES BOAT LAUNCH THAT'S 10 KILOMETERS IN.

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THAT'S BASICALLY FROM THE GARBAGE CANS MOVING FORWARD TO I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE BAY RIGHT NOW AT THIS POINT.

BEAVER POND, I BELIEVE THIS IS NOT ONLY HARD ON VEHICLES TRAVELING THE ROAD ON A DAILY BASIS, BUT IT'S ALSO HARD ON THE CITY EQUIPMENT AND THE GRADER.

WE KNOW THIS FOR A FACT BECAUSE WE HAD OUR GRADER THAT WE REPLACED JUST PRIOR TO THE ONE THAT WAS SEVEN YEARS OLD, WAS 23 YEARS OLD.

BUT THE SEVEN YEAR ONE WAS GRADING EVERY OTHER WEEK, STAN ROCK AND DUNLOP SHORES.

PUTTING A LOT OF THOSE HOURS AND WEAR AND TEAR ON THEM, IS A BIG EQUIPMENT COSTS AS WELL.

TWO LOCAL FIRMS WERE INVITED TO BID ON THE RFP 2020S TO RDS.

ONE, WHICH WAS EMAILED ON WEDNESDAY, JULY THE 6TH, 2022, AND CALLED FOR PRICING TO APPLY, 75 MILLILITERS MILLIMETERS OF GRANULAR A MATERIAL AS WELL AS A DOUBLE LAYER SURFACE TREATMENT ON 6,000 LINEAR METERS OF DUNLOP SHORES ROAD.

BASICALLY, WE GOT ONE BID COMING BACK AND THE BID CAME IN AT 812,475 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES.

AFTER RECEIVING THE BID, DISCUSSION, STAFF DISCUSSED WAYS TO LOWER THE COST TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT, WHICH WAS NOT BUDGETED FOR IN THE 2022 CAPITAL BUDGET, THE CITY DECIDED TO DELAY THE PROJECT UNTIL SEPTEMBER, ALLOWING GILBERT'S AND ENTERPRISE INK TO COMPLETE THE CRUSHING OF 6,000 CUBIC METERS OF STOCKPILED ASPHALT BEHIND THE DOG PARK WHERE IT CAN BE UTILIZED AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE GRAVEL REQUIRED IN THE SURFACE TREATMENT PROCESS.

JUST SO EVERYBODY HAS A BACKGROUND OF IT.

THE ROADS, FIRE TOWER ROAD, BOY CHUCK, SOUTH BAY.

THEY'VE ALL BEEN SURFACE TREATED WITH A DOUBLE SURFACE TREATMENT RECENTLY.

THEY WERE ALL PULVERIZED.

THIS DOESN'T NEED TO BE PULVERIZED BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING ON IT RIGHT NOW.

BUT THEY ALL HAD THE WRAP THE RECYCLED ASPHALT PRODUCT THAT WAS CRUSHED, SUBSTITUTED AS A GRAVEL AND THEN THE SURFACE PUT ON.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE RIGHT NOW.

WHAT HAPPENS IS WITH A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC AND STUFF, IT ENDS UP HARDENING AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO END UP WITH A PRODUCT AT THE VERY END IS WHAT YOU SEE ON THE HIGHWAY GOING NORTH OF TOWN SO THAT ALL THE WAY OUT.

BASICALLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT MORE OF THE HEAT THING AND AS TRAFFIC GOES ALONG, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT A SWEEP OFF AFTERWARDS.

ONCE IT'S SWEPT OFF, IT'S GOING TO BE THAT HARD SURFACE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE EVERYWHERE ALONG THE HIGHWAY AS WELL.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING FOR THAT.

BY UTILIZING CITY TRUCKS AND THAT MATERIAL.

THE PRICE WAS BROUGHT DOWN TO, AS YOU SEE RIGHT THERE, THE APPLICATION.

IN THE FINANCIAL IMPACT, YOU'VE GOT THE APPLICATION OF 75 MILLIMETERS OR RECYCLED ASPHALT MATERIAL INSTEAD OF THE E GRAVEL IS SUBSTITUTE 96,750, 578,000 FOR THE DOUBLE SURFACE TREATMENT LAYER, FOR A TOTAL OF 675,000 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES.

BASICALLY JUST GOING THROUGH THE NUMBERS OF WHAT WE SPEND CURRENTLY, THE CITY CURRENTLY SPENDS AN ANNUAL AVERAGE OF ABOUT 60,000 JUST TO MAINTAIN THE DUNLOP SHORES ROAD.

DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS BETWEEN LABOR AND EQUIPMENT COST DEGRADE, REPAIR, SUPPLY, DUSK CONTROL MEASURES, AS WELL AS THE COST TO ADD AN A OR AN M GRAVEL EVERY FIVE YEARS AS BEST PRACTICE, IT'S 5-7, ESTIMATED TO BE AROUND 700,000.

IN SUMMARY, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE PRICE SUBMITTED BY BEMIS CONSTRUCTION, INC. AND THE AMOUNT OF 675,000 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES REGARDING THE APPLICATION OF 75 MILLIMETERS OF WRAP MATERIAL AND A DOUBLE SURFACE TREATMENT LAYER TO 6,000 LINEAR METERS OF DUNLOP SHORES ROAD BE APPROVED.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH, I'M GOING TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON THIS.

ONCE AGAIN, I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY AWESOME.

YOU'RE RECYCLING, YOU ARE DOING AN ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP OF THE SENATOR TRAILER PARK AREA, REUSING THAT MATERIAL AND YOU'RE CREATING SAFETY ON DUNLOP SHORES ROAD.

YOU TICKED OFF ALL THE BOXES FOR ME. I LOVE IT.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO START WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE AND THEN COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

THANK YOU. MR. HALLOCH.

AS I THINK I MENTIONED THAT THE COMMITTEE MEETING THAT SECTION OF DUNLOP ROAD IS A REALLY BAD AREA.

TO SAVE A BIT OF TIME, PERHAPS, IF YOU'D BE SO KIND, YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO THE COUNCIL WHY YOU'RE ONLY DOING THAT SIX KILOMETER SECTION.

SECOND PART WOULD BE EXPLAINED TO THEM EXACTLY WHAT A DOUBLE LAYER TREATMENT IS. THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. AS EXPLAINED IN THE REPORT, BUT NOT TOO MUCH OF IT THAT WAY IS THAT OBVIOUSLY THE FIRST FIVE KILOMETERS THAT COME OUT IN 2019, WE ADDED LIKE AN M GRAVEL AND MAJORITY OF THE ROAD IS VERY FLAT.

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THEN AS WE MOVE ON, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, THE ENGINEERING THING TO THE HILLS AND EVERYTHING ON THE ROAD ARE EXTREME.

YOU START TO SEE THOSE, THE ACTUAL FIVE KILOMETER MARK.

THEN IT MOVES FORWARD TO ALL THE WAY TO, LIKE I SAID, BEAVER POND WHERE WE'RE DOWN TO A B GRAVEL AND IT'S A LOT OF HILLS ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT.

EXPLAINED ABOUT THE DUNLOP SHORES ACTUAL BOAT LAUNCH, WHERE A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC GOES FROM THERE.

A LOT OF WHAT YOU'LL SEE TOO IS WHEN PEOPLE SEE THE HILLS, THEY AUTOMATICALLY SPEED UP, WHICH MAKES SENSE.

I KNOW IT'S 30 KILOMETERS, BUT THEY'RE SPEEDING UP AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOUR WASHBOARD THAT HAPPENS ONCE THE FIRST VEHICLE GOES THROUGH.

IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO GRADE IT, BUT IT'LL SPEED AND SKIP ALONG.

THEN THE NEXT ONE GOES AHEAD AND DOES IT AS WELL.

WE'VE LOST A LOT OF IT DUE TO PLOWING AND ALL THE REST.

NOW WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO PUT ON A HARDER SURFACE ONTO THOSE SIX KILOMETERS TO START.

THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IS WITH OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN, WE'LL LOOK AT BOTH, BUT IT'S THE MOST HILLY SPOTS WHERE IT'S FLAT.

LOTS OF TIMES THE ROADS PERFECT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SPEEDS ALTERING AND GOING FASTER AND SLOWER TO TRY TO GET UP THESE HILLS.

THAT'S WHY IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT SIX KILOMETERS OF THE ROAD.

IT'S WHERE WE RECOGNIZE A LOT OF THE WORDS DOWN TO THE B GRAVEL, AND WE'VE LOST THE M&E A ABOVE IT.

ONCE THE GRADER HITS THAT, IT'S REALLY HARD ON YOUR CITY EQUIPMENT AS WELL.

THE OTHER SAVINGS WILL HAVE TO SIX KILOMETERS IS AS WELL AS THE DUST CONTROL.

I KNOW THAT WE NEEDED ALL THROUGHOUT DONE ANYTIME WE HAVE GRAVEL ROADS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO SAVE ON THE DUST CONTROL AS WELL MOVING FORWARD FOR THE SIX KILOMETERS AND THEN WE'LL PLAN OUT THE REST LIKE I SAID, OVER TIME.

WE'RE NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW PEOPLE WILL BRING IT UP THAT THEY WANT TO SEE WHEN STAN ROCK AND THE REST ARE GOING TO BE DONE.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO FIRST TAKE CARE OF THE PRIORITY ROADS THAT ARE GETTING MAJORITY OF THE COMPLAINTS.

WE'VE DRIVEN IT OURSELVES AND WE REALIZED SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE NOW.

JUST SO COUNCIL AND I BROUGHT IT UP AT THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING AS WELL.

I FOUND SOME DOCUMENTATION AND STUFF.

IT WAS AS TRAFFIC STARTS TO GO UP, WE START TO LOOK AT YOU, LEAVE IT A GRAVEL ROAD AS IT GETS BUSIER, YOU LOOK INTO SURFACE TREATMENT AND IF IT WAS REALLY BUSY, THEN YOU LOOK INTO PAVING.

BUT WE'RE AT PROBABLY THE SURFACE TREATMENT ONE AND THERE WAS A PLAN BACK IN THE DAY TO A FIVE-YEAR PLAN TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMPLETED BY 2012 BUT OBVIOUSLY WITH THINGS AND PRIORITIES, THINGS CHANGE.

[NOISE] THE DOUBLE SURFACE, SO THE DOUBLE SURFACE TREATMENT, THE REASON WHY WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DOUBLE SURFACE TREATMENTS, SO ONCE YOU LAY IT DOWN, THERE'S GOING TO BE A TAR THAT'S PLACED DOWN AND THEN ANOTHER STONE THAT THEY USE AND THEY SPREAD THE TAR FIRST.

THEN WHAT THEY'LL DO IS PUT THE STONE ON TOP WITH THE HEAT AND WITH THE TRAFFIC TRAVELING OVER IT.

PLUS THE CONTRACTOR VENUS WILL BE ALSO USING A PACKERS AND STUFF. WE'LL PACKERS.

IT DRAWS THE ACTUAL TAR THROUGH THE ACTUAL STONE AND THEN IT BINDS TOGETHER AND BECOMES SOLID.

THE REASON WHY WE'RE GOING WITH A DOUBLE SURFACE ANYTIME YOU DO THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME, YOU DOUBLE SURFACE.

IN YOUR ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN, I'D SAY PROBABLY CLOSER TO LIKE A SEVEN-YEAR POINT.

YOU COULD DO A SINGLE LAYER AND IT'S MUCH CHEAPER THAN GOING TO A DOUBLE LAYER AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PULVERIZED.

YOU JUST PUT THE SINGLE LAYER ON TOP OF WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE.

THE PROBLEM WITH WHAT WE HAD WITH FIRE TOWER AND ALL THE REST WE WERE 20 YEARS AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO PULVERIZING GO TO A DOUBLE LAYER SURFACE.

IT'S GOING TO BE THE INITIAL ONE AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT A DOUBLE LAYER DOWN AND THEN WE'LL BE LOOKING INHABIT IN THE ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WHEN WE DO THIS NEXT TIME, WE'LL PUT A SINGLE LAYER ON ALL THESE ROADS.

>> COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

>> THANK YOU. WORSHIP. I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK IT ANYWAY.

[LAUGHTER] GOOD ROADS.

MR.TUNIS AND I WERE SPEAKING WITH SOME PEOPLE THAT THERE'S ADDITIVES THAT WE CAN PUT ON OUR WRAP SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS SINGLE SURFACE OR THE DOUBLE SURFACE LAYERS ON TOP.

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT $15,000 OF KILOMETER AS OPPOSED TO A $100,000 A KILOMETER, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION FROM THOSE COMPANIES TO DATE? WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS IN THE FUTURE.

I AGREE WE HAVE TO DO THE BALANCE OF THAT ROAD AND THE BALANCE OF THE OTHER ROADS.

BUT IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY LESS MONEY IF WE'RE ADDING THAT FIBER PRODUCT TO THE WRAP SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT THE SURFACE TREATMENT ON TOP SO THAT WE CAN JUST DO WRAP COVERAGE ON THE ROADS.

WE PROBABLY COULD DO THE BALANCE OF THE ROADS FOR THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY DOWN THE ROAD.

VIRTUALLY MY QUESTION IS THE SAME ONE THAT YOU AND I

[02:15:01]

>> I FOUND THE EMAIL AND WENT THROUGH ALL THE INFORMATION AS WELL.

YEAH, IT'S A FIBER MATERIAL.

BUT EVERYTHING THAT I'VE READ ABOUT, JUST ME PERSONALLY, I MADE A PHONE CALL DOWN TO THE COMPANY AND I'M WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM, BUT IT'S A FIBER MATERIAL AND THEY STATED MORE THAT IT WAS ALMOST LIKE AN ASPHALT PRODUCT THAT YOU WOULD PUT THIS FIBER IN THERE AND IT WILL PREVENT ANY CRACKING IN THE FUTURE.

I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING TO DO WITH SURFACE TREATMENT OR THE RAP.

MOST TIMES WHAT YOU'RE RECYCLED ASPHALT PRODUCTS DOING IS IT'S ACTUALLY REPLACING THE A GRAVEL THAT'S IN THESE PROCESSES.

IT ALMOST SOUNDED LIKE THE FIBER GOES INTO THE ACTUAL ASPHALT PRODUCT THAT GOES ON TOP AND I COULDN'T FIND IT IN THE SURFACE TREATMENT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HARD TO PUT INTO THAT.

I'M GOING TO WAIT FOR THE ANSWER, SEE WHAT HE COMES BACK WITH.

THE OTHER PROBLEM TOO, IS WITH THE RECYCLED ASPHALT PRODUCT THAT WE HAVE.

IT WAS VERY OLD AND WHERE IT WAS.

IF WE MILL LIKE, I'LL JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE.

IF WE MILLED HILLSIDE AND WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT, PUTTING THAT RATE ONTO A PROJECT RIGHT AWAY IS THE BEST PRODUCT THAT BINDS TOGETHER REALLY GOOD AND IT ACTUALLY GOT BUT AS USING AN OLDER PRODUCT.

THAT'S THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT, BUT I'LL WAIT TO SEE WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT THE FIBER AND GO FROM THERE BECAUSE ANY USE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO START THIS PROCESS AND CONTINUE ON WITH THIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL THE PROJECTS AROUND THE FOLLOW-UP.

>> THANK YOU. WORSHIP. YES. THE DISCUSSIONS THAT MR. ANTAGONISTS AND I WERE HAVING, THEY DO HAVE NOT JUST THE FIBER, BUT THEY DO HAVE OTHER PRODUCTS BECAUSE THE GENTLEMAN WE WERE TALKING TO SAID SPECIFICALLY, YOU NEED TO TALK TO US BECAUSE THEY CAN JUST PUT RAP WITH THEIR PRODUCTS AND NOT HAVE TO DO THE SURFACE TREATMENTS.

I GET IT. IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE THAN THE $15,000 A KILOMETER, BUT I'LL BE PLEASED WHEN WE HOPEFULLY CAN HAVE THIS INFORMATION TO MOVE FORWARD FOR NEXT SPRING.

>> YEAH. PERFECT. I'LL DEFINITELY KEEP BUGGING THEM AND I'LL CALL AGAIN IF I DON'T GET AN ANSWER.

BUT I'M SURE HE'LL CALL ME BACK TO LET ME KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

I'M JUST WAITING ON THAT. [NOISE]

>> COUNCILLOR TURNER.

>> THANK YOU. WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. HALLOCH.

JUST CURIOUS,75 MILLIMETER IS NOT VERY HIGH.

IT'S DEFINITELY LESS THAN THE SIZE OF ANY KIND OF STONE THAT YOU SIT DOWN ON THIS ROAD.

WHERE DO YOU ARRIVE AT THE 75 MILLIMETERS, IS THAT INDUSTRY STANDARD?

>> YEAH. WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR IS WE'VE ASKED FOR A THREE-INCH BASICALLY THREE INCHES OF STONE AND THEN COMPACTED SO AND THEN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WHEN YOU DOUBLE SURFACE, THERE'S ACTUALLY A LAYER OF TARP PUT ONTO THAT STONE AND THEN IT GIVES YOU ANOTHER, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A TWO OR THREE INCH FROM THERE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF BIG WORD, LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN COME TO ANOTHER ONE WHERE IT MIGHT BE A 150 MILS, BUT THIS ONE HERE, THERE IS STILL GRAVEL ON THE ROAD.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO AND COMPACT ANOTHER AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE TOO HIGH ON DRIVEWAYS TOO, BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE TO TIE EVERY DRIVEWAY INTO A ROAD THAT YOU'RE BUILDING UP.

THAT'S WHERE WE CAME UP WITH IT.

WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WAS WORKING WITH THEM ON THESE OTHER PROJECTS.

NOW WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE PERFECT AMOUNT ON THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE CAME UP WITH.

YEAH. WE'RE ADDING THREE AND COMPACTING IT TO TWO INCHES.

[NOISE]

>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS?

>> SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE THEN.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU. NINE OUTSIDE BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTING, THERE IS NONE.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS,

[10. UNFINISHED BUSINESS]

>> WORKING ON IT. BUT WE ARE ASSEMBLING THAT RESEARCH THAT WE WERE MANDATED TO HAVE FOR THE AUGUST 8TH MEETING.

THE QUESTION MORE FOR COUNSEL IS, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN A SPECIAL COUNSEL MEETING ON TUESDAY, AUGUST, THE TUESDAY AFTER THE LONG WEEKEND, OR PREFER TO WAIT AND DO IT AT THE REGULAR MEETING ON AUGUST 8TH, BECAUSE WE SHOULD HAVE A LOT OF THE RESEARCH DONE BY LATER THIS WEEK EARLY NEXT? THAT WAS JUST THE QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU.

DO YOU PREFER TO HAVE A SPECIAL COUNSEL MEETING TO DEAL WITH JUST THIS ON TUESDAY AFTER THE LONG WEEKEND OR WAIT AND DO IT ON THE 8TH AND WE LOSE SIX DAYS? BUT IT'S UP TO THE COUNSEL OF COURSE.

>> I THINK THE EMOTION WAS THE 8TH, BUT COUNSEL PATRICK.

>> IF THE INFORMATION WERE TO BE EARLIER AND WE COULD SET THE TIME NOW.

BUT THE PREDICAMENT IS YOU JUST SAID THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION UNTIL NEXT WEEK AT SOME TIME.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE JUST LEAVE IT AS IS AND JUST GO TO THE 8TH.

BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T GET THE INFORMATION TILL WEDNESDAY,

[02:20:02]

WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST NOT SCHEDULE IT AND WAIT FOR IT TO GET THERE ON THE 8TH.

GIVES YOU MORE TIME TO GET THE FULL INFORMATION TOGETHER.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE. COUNSELLOR FINAMORE.

>> THANK YOU, WORSHIP. WE ALREADY HAVE TWO STANDING COMMITTEE MEETINGS ON THAT DATE, SO IT MIGHT BE ENOUGH FOR STAFF.

>> GO AHEAD, GOOD STUFF.

10.2 RESIDENTIAL WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS.

>> NOTHING TO SPEAK OF.

I WONDER IF MAYBE NOT THIS EVENING, BUT WE SHOULD MAYBE REWARD THAT ARE RETHINK THAT STANDING ITEM TO JUST MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE RELEVANT OR BROADEN IT TO FIRST NATION ENGAGEMENT OR LAND, NOT NECESSARILY WATERFRONT.

IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM LIKE WE HAVE A LOT TO SPEAK OF.

THERE'S ONE THAT WHEN IT BECOMES HOT, THERE MIGHT BE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL IN THE CONCEPTUAL STAGE.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IMMINENT.

>> TEN PETITIONS, THERE ARE NONE 12 CORRESPONDENCE, NONE 13 NOTICE MOTION, NONE 14 COUNSEL'S REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[14. COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS]

GOOD EVENING, SIR. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, YOUR WORSHIP.

I'M NOT USED TO IT'S A CHIEF TO ME, AND COUNSEL.

I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OUR CHIEF AND WE'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU AND YOUR COUNSEL AND EVERYBODY IN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE TO OUR POWWOW COMING UP ON AUGUST 6TH AND 7TH.

THAT WE'D LIKE YOU TO BRING DOWN THE CITY FLAG TO COME IN WITH THE REST OF THE FLAGS THAT WE BRING INTO OUR POWWOW EACH YEAR.

THAT'S OUR BIG ANNOUNCEMENT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> NOT ON BEHALF OF THE CHIEF, BUT ON BEHALF OF EVERYBODY IN SERPENT RIVER, I'D REALLY LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION TONIGHT ON THAT LAND.

TO ME, IT MEANS A LOT.

I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND HERE OVER THE YEARS TO TRY AND SEE THINGS MOVE FORWARD AND IT'S REALLY A PLEASURE TO SEE IT MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. COUNSELLOR FINAMORE.

>> WILL GRAND ENTRY STILL BE AT NOON ON SATURDAY?

>> AROUND NOON, YEAH. [LAUGHTER]

>> IS IT ON THE CHIEF'S TIME?

>> YEAH.

>> I'LL PUT THAT DOWN FOR 12:30. [LAUGHTER].

>> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. I'M CARRYING ON WITH THE COUNSEL'S REPORT.

VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

THAT'S AN INVITATION GOING OUT TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, POWWOW AT SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION, THIS COMING UP ON AUGUST 6TH AND 7TH WEEKEND.

BE SURE TO ATTEND.

WHAT DO WE HAVE COMING UP THIS WEEKEND? JULY 30TH, 31ST, SO JULY 30TH, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN UNOFFICIAL ELSS REUNION BEGINNING WITH A TOUR AT THE HIGH SCHOOL FROM 10 AM TILL NOON.

THEN FESTIVITIES AT WEST VIEW PARK IN ORDER TO REUNITE WITH OLD FRIENDS.

THAT'LL BE FOLLOWED BY A GOLF TOURNAMENT ON THE 31ST.

ON AUGUST 1ST, WE HAVE LUMBERJACK DAYS BACK AT MS. SOGGY PARK.

COUNSELLOR PEARCE, LET US KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

FUN ACTIVITIES FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY IS WHAT I HAVE?

>> [INAUDIBLE] V8 SAW.

>> THE V8 SAW TAKES SIX MEN TO LIFT, OR COUNSELOR MIYAWAGSKI ON HIS OWN? [LAUGHTER].

>> ACTUALLY A COUNSELOR MIYAWAGSKI IS VERY FAMOUS FOR DOING HIS LOG BERLIN.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL DO IT THIS YEAR. WE'LL HAVE TO SEE.

BUT YES, THERE'S MAINLY SATURDAY IS FOR THE CHILDREN.

IT'S A GREAT DAY IF YOU'RE BRINGING YOUR FAMILY OUT.

LOTS OF ACTIVITIES FOR THEM, INCLUDING AX THROWING, BUT TRUST ME, WHEN I TELL YOU THEY'RE NOT THROWING REAL AXIS, OKAY, THEY'RE THROWING THESE LITTLE VELCRO AXIS AT THE SMALL LITTLE TARGETS.

BUT THEY DO DO THAT AND THEY DO FACE PAINTING AND OTHER ACTIVITIES, MINNOW RACES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SATURDAY IS MAINLY FOR THE CHILDREN AND THE FAMILIES.

SUNDAY IS THE COMPETITION.

WE HAVE QUITE A FEW MORE TEAMS THAN WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.

THEY'VE COME FROM ALL OVER THE NORTH SHORE.

WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THAT.

WE HAVE WOOD CARVER WHO'S GOING TO BE DEMONSTRATING SOME PRETTY FANTASTIC WOODCARVING.

WE ALSO HAVE, AS I MENTIONED, HAVE THAT GIGANTIC SAW.

[02:25:02]

IT'S GOT AN AIRPLANE ENGINE IN IT FRANKLY.

ANYWAY, IT'S A GREAT DAY.

IT'S A LOT OF FUN. IT'S GREAT TWO DAYS, ACTUALLY.

IT'S A LOT OF FUN WITH SOME VERY GOOD PEOPLE.

THE COMPETITION IS REALLY VERY INTENSE.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE'S AT LEAST TWO TEAMS THAT I WOULDN'T SAY THEY DISLIKE EACH OTHER, BUT THEY CERTAINLY GET VERY COMPETITIVE WHEN THEY GET GOING.

WE WELCOME YOU, WE'D LIKE YOU TO COME.

I WOULD POINT OUT THAT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE FLYING NOT JUST THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE FLAG AT THE PARK THIS YEAR, BUT WE WILL ALSO BE FLYING THE RIVER FIRST NATION FLAG.

IF I CAN REACH SOMEBODY AT MRS. SAGA, WE'LL BE FLYING THEIR FLAG AS WELL.

BUT FOR SURE, WE'LL HAVE THE SERPENT RIVER FLAG FLYING VERY PROUDLY AT SOGGY PARK THIS WEEKEND. THANK YOU.

>> WHAT'S THE COST/

>> WHAT IS THE COST, IS IT A WEEKEND PASS?

>> YOU'RE GOING TO ASK ME THAT AND I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION.

>> AN ICE CREAM PASS?

>> NOW YOU HAVE ALL THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. THIS WILL BE FOLLOWED, FIRST SECOND LUMBERJACK DAYS, AUGUST 3RD, THERE'S GOING TO BE A BARBECUE AT WEST VIEW PARK WHICH WILL BE HOSTED BY THE FRIENDSHIP CENTRE.

WHAT IS THIS YOU ASK? COME OUT IN THE AFTERNOON AND FIND OUT MORE.

CHIEF PASEO AND MYSELF APPARENTLY WILL BE FLIPPING BURGERS, DOGS, AND SAUSAGES.

IT'S A FREE EVENT AS FAR AS I KNOW, WHEN THERE'S GOING TO BE INFORMATION AGAIN ABOUT WHAT THE POTENTIAL OF A FRIENDSHIP CENTER MEANS FOR ELLIOT LAKE AND THE NORTH SHORE.

I WAS TOLD TO BE THERE FOR NOON, SO I'LL SAY 12:30. [LAUGHTER] NEXT PIECE AND JUST A FEW THANK YOU'S.

I WANT TO THANK GENTLE SHEPHERD AND ALL THEIR VOLUNTEERS FOR SOME ADDED FUN THIS WEEKEND.

I BELIEVE CONSTABLE PHIL YUNG WAS OUT THERE ALSO ADDED SOME FUN FOR THE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN AND SETTING UP A SOAPBOX DERBY THAT WAS ON LISBON THIS YEAR.

ALSO SHOUT OUT TO CHUCK TURASH AND THE ELLIOT LAKE ROD AND GUN CLUB FOR BRINGING BACK THE KIDS FISHING DERBY IN ELLIOT LAKE.

THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT MAKES OUR COMMUNITY GREAT.

SEEING THESE ORGANIZATIONS GET INVOLVED IN DOING MORE FOR THE FAMILY SO BIG THANK YOU TO TO YOU GUYS FOR SETTING THIS UP.

DRAG RACES THAT HAVE COME TO PASS NOW TO ALL OUR ELLIOT LAKE VOLUNTEERS AND OUR CITY STAFF, ALL THE EMPLOYEES, FAMILIES, I THINK THERE PROBABLY WASN'T A SINGLE PERSON THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY THAT WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE DRAG RACE IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.

BIG THANK YOU FOR AN AMAZING WEEK OF TOTAL AWESOMENESS.

IT WAS A LOT OF FUN.

WE HAD PERFECT WEATHER.

I GOT SHOUT OUT TO ERNIE AND HIS DRAG RACE CREW, AS WELL AS ROYAL CANADIAN DRAGOONS FOR COMING ALL THE WAY FROM PETAWAWA ALSO.

THOSE WERE SOME AMAZING MILITARY PROFESSIONALS WHICH WERE TEACHING RESIDENTS THEIR CHILDREN ABOUT THEIR WORK AND ABOUT THE MILITARY AND ALL THE EQUIPMENT.

WAS GREAT SEEING THEM OUT THERE.

TO ALL THE RACERS AND RESIDENTS WHO PARTICIPATED A BIG THANK YOU AND CHEERS.

I GOT TO SHOUT OUT TO DEPUTY MAYOR SUMMERS BECAUSE SHE DID BRING THE TROPHY BACK TO BLIND RIVER AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN AWHILE SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.

I'VE ALREADY STARTED TO SLIM FAST, SO WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. IS THERE ANY ADDITIONS TO THIS EVENING'S COUNCIL REPORT? COUNCILOR FINAMORE?

>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO ADD MY THANKS AND GRATITUDE TO THE CITY STAFF, VOLUNTEERS ERNIE'S CREW, THE SECURITY TEAM, BUT IT'S VERY SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO THOSE KIDS THAT DID THE START LINE.

I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A KID THERE THAT HAD DID IT BEFORE, BUT I THINK WE HAVE A FEW KIDS THAT ARE ADDICTED AND WE'LL BE BACK YEAR AFTER YEAR IF WE LET THEM COME BACK, THEY HAD A BALL AND THEY WORKED HARD, IT WAS HOT AND THEY WERE DIRTY, AND THEY LOVED EVERY SECOND OF IT.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO EVAN SULFUR AND ESPECIALLY HIS SON LUCAS, WHO WAS SO EXCITED, I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYONE SO EXCITED.

IT WAS LIKE HE WON A MILLION DOLLARS AND OF COURSE A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO THE DRAGOONS TO COME.

I GOT VERY EMOTIONAL WHEN THEY CAME ON THE TON [LAUGHTER].

HAD MANY PEOPLE TRIED TO CONSOLE ME BECAUSE I COULDN'T STOP CRYING, BUT IT WAS A VERY SPECIAL MOMENT TO SEE THEM THERE IN THEIR FULL COMBAT GEAR AND TAKING THAT TANK DOWN THE TRACK, IT WAS REALLY SOMETHING TO SEE.

BUT I KNOW THAT THE STAFF GAVE UP A SECOND WEEKEND IN JULY

[02:30:02]

>> ABSOLUTELY. I ACTUALLY HAVE TO SAY, I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN THAT DIVERSE OF VOLUNTEERS AT THE DRAG RACE HAS EVER, THERE WAS SOME OF THE YOUNGEST VOLUNTEERS I'VE EVER SEEN ALONG WITH SOME OF THE OLDEST VOLUNTEERS I'VE EVER SEEN ALL MIXED TOGETHER AND I SWEAR THOSE KIDS ON THE START LINE LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE PREPARING FOR CURLING CHAMPIONSHIPS WITH THEIR BROOMS, IT WAS [LAUGHTER] ABSOLUTELY CRAZY. COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

>> THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP. THANKS TO AN UNKNOWN MEMBER OF STAFF, MR. ANTUNES.

THE PRICES FOR THE LUMBERJACK DAYS ARE THREE, CHILDREN UNDER 12, $3 PER DAY OR $5 FOR THE WEEKEND.

ADULTS, $5 PER DAY OR $9 FOR THE WEEKEND.

PARKING IS 12.25 PER DAY OR $15 FOR THE TWO DAYS.

TEAM REGISTRATION, WHICH I BELIEVE CLOSES VERY SHORTLY IS $100.

AND TEAM REGISTRATION PACKAGES ARE AVAILABLE AT THE WELCOME CENTER AND AT THE PARK.

SUNDAY THERE'LL BE A LUMBERJACK BREAKFAST WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE SUNDAY AND WEEKEND PASSES.

THE KIDS THINGS AGAIN, I THINK FACE PAINTING, NAIL DRIVE, COLORING CONTEST, METAL RACE, WOOD TOSS, TRAPPER CHALLENGE, PHOTO BOOTH, KIDS ASTRO AND DISK TOSS, THEY HAVE LOTS OF GOOD THINGS GOING ON THERE. ALL RIGHT.

>> GOOD STUFF. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WHAT'S THE PRICE OF ICE CREAM?

>> FIVE BUCKS FOR YOU.

[LAUGHTER]

>> WE'LL ROLL INTO THE BIG TICKET ITEMS FOR THIS EVENING.

RECEIVER GENERAL FOR CANADA, 85,200 LUX VILLE DRIVEWAY AND DRAG RACE EVENT 35,000, AINSWORTH MECHANICAL UPGRADES TO THE POOL, 232,500, AJ BUS LINES TRANSIT SERVICE, 29000, BEMIS CONSTRUCTION, SANDSTONES SCREENING 21,200, DE JARDIN CARD SERVICE OF JUNE 2022, 35,900 GFL ENVIRONMENTAL, WHICH IS CURBSIDE AND FRONT-LOAD SEWAGE HALL, 40,700.

HYDRO ONE NETWORKS, 21,400, MCDOUGALL ENERGY FOR GAS, DIESEL 32,500, OMERS AND TRILLIUM PAVEMENT MARKING FOR THE ROAD LINE PAINTING 75,400.

ONE LAST QUESTION. WILL THERE BE TRANSIT AVAILABLE FOR THE LUMBERJACK DAYS?

>> YES.

>> YES, TRANSIT IS AVAILABLE.

>> PERFECT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL ROLL ON.

THERE'S NO ADDENDUM THIS EVENING.

INTRODUCTION CONSIDERATION OF BYLAWS.

[16. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF BY-LAWS]

ANY FINAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THERE'S NOT BEEN A SINGLE QUESTION ABOUT THIS AND THREE DIFFERENT TIMES TALKING ABOUT IT THIS EVENING.

>>PARKING.

>> JUST THE PARKING. ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED.

17 CLOSED SESSION. THERE IS NONE.

UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING WE WISH TO DISCUSS. NO. OKAY.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> [LAUGHTER] 18 CONFIRMATORY BYLAW,

[18. CONFIRMATORY BY-LAW]

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, SECOND BY COUNCILOR PEARCE.

QUESTIONS, QUALMS QUERIES.

ROLL-CALL. COUNCILOR PATRIE YOU CAN START.

>> OPPOSED.

>> COUNCILLOR MANN.

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNSELLOR CYR.

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNCILLOR TURNER.

>> IN FAVOR.

>> COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

>> IN FAVOR COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

>> IN FAVOR.

>> AND I'M IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.

MOTION TO ADJOURN MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR PATRIE.

WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED. THANK YOU FOR COMING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.