Dec 12, 2022 City Council

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EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

I WOULD LIKE TO DECLARE THIS MEETING OPEN WITH A ROLL CALL.

ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE PRESENT.

DO WE HAVE ANY DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.

THIRD TIME, NO DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

[4. ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES]

CAN I GET A MOVER FOR THE MINUTES FROM THE NOV 28TH 22 SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING? COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

SECONDER? COUNCILLOR WANNAN.

ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? THOSE ARE CARRIED.

CAN I GET A MOVER AND A SECONDER FOR THE.

OH, NO, SORRY.

WE HAVE READING OF RESOLUTIONS PASSED FOLLOWING THE CLOSED SESSION OF NOVEMBER 28TH.

APOLOGIES, YOUR WORSHIP. THAT'S AN ERROR.

WE HAVE NO RESOLUTIONS FOLLOWING THAT LAST MEETING.

[5. PUBLIC INPUT SESSION]

WE HAVE MR. LAUREN THAT WANTS TO SPEAK TO ITEM 10.3.

IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD FOR THE PUBLIC , AND MAY I CAUTION YOU, YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT AN ITEM THAT IS A CLOSED SESSION ITEM.

SO PLEASE DO NOT USE ANY IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION OR ANY CLOSED SESSION INFORMATION WHILE YOU'RE HAVING YOUR SPEECH.

THANK YOU. PLEASE MAKE SURE THE GREEN LIGHT IS ON, ON THE MIC.

THERE WE GO.

THERE WE GO. THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD. HI, MY NAME IS RICHARD LAUREN.

I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE ALL OF YOU THAT NOW HAVE A SEAT. I SEE THAT THERE'S SOME GREAT THINGS COMING THROUGH THE DECISIONS YOU'VE MADE SO FAR.

ECONOMIC AND DEVELOPMENT.

I'M SEEING GROWTH FOR THE FUTURE, SURPLUS IN LAND.

I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON ALL THAT HARD WORK, AND HOPEFULLY WE CONTINUE THAT; IT WILL MAKE OUR CITY GROW.

SO ON THE ISSUE OF THE SALE OF THE LOT WHERE THE CIVIC CENTER IS.

I KNOW YOU HAVE A FEW THINGS.

I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHAT I SAY BECAUSE I KNOW SOME THINGS THAT SOME PEOPLE DON'T YET, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE POSITION OF HAVING A HOTEL.

THE PLAN FOR THE HOTEL COULD BRING TOURISM TO ELLIOT LAKE AS A VACATION DESTINATION.

THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT TRAVEL NORTH.

THEY PAY FIVE $6,000 TO RENT A COTTAGE FOR A WEEK.

WE DON'T HAVE A HOTEL HERE.

WE DO, BUT WE DON'T.

I BELIEVE IN MY HEART THAT BY DOING THE RIGHT THING, ALLOWING A POTENTIAL HOTEL GO INTO THAT LOCATION WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE CITY, A BENEFIT TO OUR TRADES, OUR SUPPLIERS, ALL THE WORKERS AND ELLIOT LAKE CREATING JOBS, AND I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THAT'S ALLOWED, WE WILL SEE FUTURE INVESTMENTS, LARGE FUTURE INVESTMENTS.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

I KNOW SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE MAKING DECISIONS, IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY.

I DO KNOW THAT.

THERE IS A PLAN FOR HAVING TOURISM GROW IN ELLIOT LAKE, AND I THINK THE BEST SOLUTION IS TO HAVE THIS HOTEL BUILT ON THE CIVIC CENTER PROPERTY.

I KNOW THAT THE INTENTION IS TO GROW OUR CITY THROUGH.

BRINGING PEOPLE TO ELLIOT LAKE FOR VACATION.

THERE'S A BIGGER PLAN, RIGHT? SO PLEASE TAKE STRONG CONSIDERATION INTO YOUR DECISION ON THIS ISSUE.

IT DOES MEAN FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

NOT JUST THE HOTEL.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS REALLY CONSIDER THAT HARD.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

IT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO OUR FUTURE DOWN THE ROAD.

THERE WILL BE OTHER INVESTMENTS AFTER THAT, AND I THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT.

I HAD MORE TO SAY, BUT I JUST NEED TO CAUTION MYSELF ON WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY, AND I HOPE YOU MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION, GUYS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. LAUREN. WE ALSO HAVE ONE PUBLIC PRESENTATION AND DELEGATIONS.

[6. PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS]

IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND MAY I REMIND YOU AS WELL, YOU'RE POTENTIALLY DISCUSSING CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, AND I WOULD CAUTION YOU TO TRY NOT TO DISCLOSE ANY CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

I'M NOT AWARE THAT I HAVE ANY INFORMATION THAT IS CONFIDENTIAL.

I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION FROM STAFF.

I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION FROM PROPONENTS.

OKAY, CAN I GET YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE?

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ABSOLUTELY. YES. MY NAME IS STEVE CALVERLY, AND I'M A RESIDENT IN ELLIOT LAKE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PATRIE, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, CITY STAFF AND FELLOW RESIDENTS.

THIS INPUT IS REGARDING 7.5 AND 10.3.

THE INPUT CONSIDERS FIVE QUESTIONS RELATED TO A SECOND HOTEL IN ELLIOT LAKE.

THE QUESTIONS ARE WHAT ARE THE EXPECTED BENEFITS? HOW RARE IS THE OPPORTUNITY? WHAT ARE THE TWO MAJOR OBJECTIONS? WHAT ARE SOME LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS? AND WHO BENEFITS? JUST ONE MOMENT, MR. CALVERLY.

ARE YOU TRYING TO USE A POWERPOINT? YES, I AM. WE DON'T HAVE IT ON THE SCREENS.

JUST GIVE US ONE SECOND.

CERTAINLY. THANK YOU.

NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

YOU CAN CONTINUE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ONE OF THE PROPOSALS BEFORE YOU, I SAY FROM INFORMATION THAT IS COMMON IN THE COMMUNITY, PUBLIC, IS A HOTEL WITH CONVENTION FACILITIES.

THIS FACILITY WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT SUPPORT FOR BUILDING OUR TOURISM INDUSTRY, CREATING LOCAL JOBS, ADDING TO OUR LOCAL TAX BASE AND PROVIDING MUCH NEEDED LOCAL FACILITIES AS WELL.

ITS CONSTRUCTION WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO A MOMENTUM OF GROWTH IN OUR CITY.

BESIDES TOURISM, SOME OF THE VISITORS COULD BE WORK FROM HOME FOLKS WHO WANT TO LIVE HERE AND BRING THEIR JOB WITH THEM.

OTHERS MAY HAVE A BUSINESS IDEA, AND OF COURSE, SOMEDAY ALL OF THOSE FOLKS WILL RETIRE.

DEPENDING ON THE FINAL DESIGN, THE OPERATION COULD CREATE 85 LOCAL JOBS.

THIS WOULD BE A BIG HELP TO MANY FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

A FACILITY OF THIS SIZE WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTOR TO OUR TAX BASE, HELPING US TO PAY FOR THE THINGS WE NEED, SUCH AS MAINTAINING ROADS AND RECREATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE. THE PROPONENTS REPRESENTATIVE HAS STATED THAT THEY WANT TO SIT DOWN WITH GROUPS AND BOARDS AND ALL INTERESTED PARTIES TO DISCUSS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY TO ENSURE THIS ACCOMMODATES AS MANY NEEDS AS POSSIBLE.

HOW RARE IS THIS OPPORTUNITY? 255 HW 108 HAS UNIQUE FEATURES THAT MAKE IT AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR A HOTEL.

IT'S HIGHLY VISIBLE ON THE MAIN DRIVE INTO TOWN.

IT'S CENTRALLY LOCATED WITH FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS BESIDE IT.

ATV AND SNOWMOBILE TRAILS ARE DIRECTLY BEHIND IT FOR ATTRACTING POWERSPORTS ENTHUSIASTS , AND SEPARATED ONLY BY SOME ROCK.

WELCOME TO ELLIOT LAKE.

A GAS STATION IS NEXT DOOR, ALSO CONNECTED TO THE TRAILS.

OVER THE YEARS, THE SITE HAS BEEN THE LOCATION OF A HOTEL, A CHURCH AND OTHER ENDEAVORS.

IN ITS MOST RECENT PAST, IT WAS THE SITE OF OUR CIVIC CENTER.

IN SUMMARY, THE UNIQUE FEATURES MAKE THIS A RARE OPPORTUNITY FOR ELLIOT LAKE TO ATTRACT THE LONG DESIRED SECOND HOTEL.

THERE ISN'T ANOTHER LOCATION IN TOWN THAT CHECKS OFF SO MANY BOXES FOR A PROSPECTIVE HOTEL INVESTOR.

IF WE LET THIS OPPORTUNITY PASS BY, WE MAY NEVER HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE THIS GOOD AGAIN , AND THE TWO MAJOR OBJECTIONS, THE PERFORMING ARTS COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE A NEW THEATER BUILT AT 255.

THAT WOULD BE A PROPER PERFORMANCE THEATER WITH ALL THE NECESSARY FEATURES NEEDED TO ATTRACT PROFESSIONAL ACTS AND ENCOURAGE OUR LOCAL PERFORMERS, YOUNG AND OLD ALIKE AND I HOPE THE CITY SUPPORTS THEIR VISION, BUT NOT AT 255.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT PROPERTY HAS FEATURES THAT DON'T MATTER OR DON'T MATTER AS MUCH TO A THEATER, BUT THEY MATTER A LOT TO A HOTEL.

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FIRST, THE CONVENTION FACILITIES MIGHT PROVIDE BETTER TEMPORARY FACILITIES THAN COLLINS HALL AFFORDS.

SECONDLY, THE TAX REVENUE FROM THE HOTEL PROPERTY HELPS US PAY FOR ELLIOTT LAKE'S NEW THEATER COSTS.

THIRD, THERE IS A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN A HOTEL THAT ATTRACTS MORE VISITORS TO THE CITY AND A THEATER THAT ATTRACTS VISITORS FOR THE HOTEL.

ANOTHER OBJECTION I'VE HEARD IS THAT THE ONE HOTEL WE HAVE DOES NOT WANT THE COMPETITION.

ELLIOT LAKE RETIREMENT LIVING HAS ADDRESSED THIS TOPIC THEMSELVES ON THEIR WEBSITE AND WE CAN CONSIDER THEIR OWN WORDS CURRENTLY ON THEIR WEBSITE FROM A SERIES OF ARTICLES, THE MYTHOLOGIES ARTICLE STATES THE FACT THAT ANOTHER HOTEL MOTEL HAS NOT BEEN CONSTRUCTED IN ELLIOT LAKE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH INTERFERENCE FROM US AND A LOT TO DO WITH VIABILITY.

AN INVESTOR WILL DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND LOOK AT THE COST TO CONSTRUCT AND THE POTENTIAL PROFIT.

FROM THERE THEY WILL DETERMINE IF THERE IS ENOUGH PROFIT TO GENERATE A RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT.

IF THE RETURN DOES NOT EXIST OR IS TOO LOW, THEN THE DEVELOPMENT IS NOT VIABLE.

WE SUSPECT THAT POTENTIAL INVESTORS HAVE ASSESSED THE DEMAND FOR HOTEL ROOMS AND HAVE REALIZED THAT CURRENTLY THERE IS NOT ENOUGH DEMAND IN ELLIOT LAKE TO SUSTAIN MORE HOTEL ROOMS. NOW, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS ARTICLE IS WRITTEN IN 2015, AND SINCE THEN, SINCE 2015, WE HAVE GONE FROM HUNDREDS OF PROPERTIES AVAILABLE FOR SALE HOMES ONLINE, REALTOR.CA TO NOW LAST TIME I LOOKED A DAY OR SO AGO, WE WERE AROUND 60 AND AT THAT TIME 2015, RETIREMENT LIVING HAD MANY RENTAL PROPERTIES AVAILABLE AND NOW THEY'RE BASICALLY FULL OR WAITLISTED.

SO IN THE SAME WAY THAT THOSE THINGS HAVE CHANGED, INVESTORS ARE RECOGNIZING THAT THERE'S ROOM IN THIS MARKET FOR TWO HOTELS, AND TO FINISH QUOTING FROM RETIREMENT LIVING'S ARTICLE, IT GOES ON TO SAY WE ENCOURAGE NEW DEVELOPMENTS OF EVERY TYPE IN ELLIOT LAKE, EVEN IF THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE COMPETITIVE TO OUR BUSINESS, AND THAT BRINGS ME TO COMMENTS ABOUT AGENDA ITEM 7.5 , AND BEFORE I MAKE ANY COMMENTS, I WANT TO ASSURE EVERYONE THAT NOTHING IS GOING TO BE SAID THAT CASTS ANY SHADOW OR SHOULD MAKE ANYONE FEEL ANXIOUS. ELLIOT LAKE RETIREMENT LIVING WAS INCORPORATED AS A NOT FOR PROFIT IN 1991. 1425164 ONTARIO LTD.

OPERATING AS NORDEV GROUP, WAS INCORPORATED AS A REGULAR FOR PROFIT BUSINESS IN 2002.

NORDEV OWNS THE HAMPTON.

NORDEV'S FINANCIALS ARE CONSOLIDATED WITH RETIREMENT LIVING'S FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

THERE'S NOTHING SECRET ABOUT THAT.

THE INFORMATION IS PUBLIC ON ELLIOT LAKE RETIREMENT LIVING'S WEBSITE.

THE REGISTRATION DATES ARE FROM THE ONTARIO GOVERNMENT PUBLIC REGISTRY.

CONSIDERING THAT TWO COUNCILLORS WILL BE ASSIGNED TO THE RETIREMENT LIVING BOARD, I WONDER IF IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE EXPERT ADVICE REGARDING THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE TRANSPARENCY THAT THEY WILL HAVE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THOSE FINANCIALS.

SPECIFICALLY, DO THE LEGACY PRACTICES TWO AND THREE DECADES OLD MEET THE CRITERIA FOR THE CURRENT MUNICIPAL ACT AND THE MUNICIPAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST ACT? I WATCHED THE ETHICS TRAINING THIS AFTERNOON ONLINE AND I FEEL FOR YOU.

I RESPECTFULLY WONDER WITH YOU IF IT MIGHT BE PRUDENT TO PRESS PAUSE AND SEE IF ANY UPDATING IS REQUIRED, AND I ALSO WONDER WITH YOU, IS YOUR ABILITY TO AFFECT, TO EFFECT ANY ADVISABLE CHANGE LESSENED AFTER THE COUNCILLORS ARE APPOINTED? NOW BACK TO THE TOPIC OF THE HOTEL.

THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE.

THANK YOU. WHO BENEFITS?

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POSSIBLY, AND IT DEPENDS ON WHAT IS FINELY DESIGNED, BUT 85 NEW JOBS WOULD BENEFIT SOME LOCAL FAMILIES MAKING ELLIOT LAKE A BETTER PLACE FOR THEM.

SOME MUCH NEEDED LOCAL FACILITIES WOULD BE CREATED.

WE MAY HAVE ACCOMMODATION FOR SPORTS TEAMS, PEOPLE TRAVELING WITH PETS AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE WANTED.

THE PROPERTY TAX CONTRIBUTION WILL HELP FUND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE AND HELP PAY FOR NEEDED NEW INFRASTRUCTURE FACILITIES SUCH AS A THEATER.

THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN 80 ROOM HOTEL WOULD GIVE ADDITIONAL MOMENTUM TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY AND ENCOURAGE YET MORE DEVELOPMENT AND BOOST EXISTING REAL ESTATE AS MORE PEOPLE MAKE ELLIOT LAKE THEIR HOME, AND IF YOU SAY NO, NONE OF THOSE BENEFITS WILL COME TO US.

THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS, MR. CALVERLY. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO SECTION SEVEN INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE

[7. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS]

WE HAVE A REPORT FROM OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND TREASURY WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND TREASURY RE BANKING SERVICES 2022 TO 2025 BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL FOR A FIVE YEAR TERM MUNICIPAL BANKING SERVICES AGREEMENT AS SUBMITTED BY THE ROYAL BANK.

CAN I GET A MOVER AND A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR MANN.

SECONDER? COUNCILLOR MORISSETTE.

THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF AN AGREEMENT AND WE NEED TO DO THIS PRIOR TO JANUARY 1.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS HAS NOT BEEN STALLED OFF TO GO TO THE F&A MEETING WHICH.

I DO BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE THIS MONTH, BUT IT STILL WOULDN'T GET IT.

WE WON'T EVEN BE HAVING ONE THIS MONTH, SO WE'LL BE HAVING ONE IN THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY, AND WE WILL PROBABLY NOT BE HAVING ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING THIS MONTH.

SO THIS WILL END UP ANY OTHER REPORTS THROUGH F&A WILL NOT GET HERE UNTIL JANUARY.

SO STAFF HAVE REQUESTED THAT WE PROCESS THIS THROUGH AND BRING IT FORWARD FOR APPROVAL TONIGHT.

WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING IT? COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

JUST ONE QUESTION FOR MS. SONNENBURG. SO IS THIS CONSIDERED THE VARIABLE RATE CONTRACT OR IS IT THE 1.7 FOR THE FIVE YEARS THE INTEREST BEING PAID? THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THE INTEREST BEING PAID IS PRIME LESS THE ONE POINT UNLESS IT'S VARIABLE? NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT SO WHEN PRIME CHANGES, THAT MEANS THE INTEREST BEING PAID WILL CHANGE TOO.

YES, ABSOLUTELY, AND I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE.

RIGHT NOW THE RECOMMENDATION SHOULD STATE 2023 THROUGH 2026, AS I HAD THE CONTRACT REVISED AFTER NEGOTIATING WITH THE BANK TO HAVE OUR AGREEMENT EXTENDED TO DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR BEFORE WE SIGN THE NEW AGREEMENT.

SO WITH APOLOGIES.

THAT'S JUST CLERICAL AS AMENDED.

OKAY, THANK YOU, MS. SONNENBURG. THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR? THAT IS CARRIED. ITEM 7.2.

WE HAVE A REPORT FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BE RECEIVED AND THAT THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE ENTER INTO A FIVE YEAR LAND LEASE AGREEMENT WITH MR. MERLE MORGAN AT A COST OF $350 A YEAR TO HOUSE A BILLBOARD.

CAN I GET A MOVER AND A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR BULL.

COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

AGAIN, VERY SELF EXPLANATORY REPORT.

IT'S AN ONGOING LEASE THAT WE'VE HAD FOR SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF YEARS AND AT $350 A YEAR FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WITH A FIVE YEAR EXTENSION.

SO POTENTIALLY FOR TEN YEARS IS A VERY ECONOMICAL WAY TO HAVE A BILLBOARD ON BEHALF OF THE MUNICIPALITY.

SO WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILLOR MORISSETTE. THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP FOR MR.

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I'M SORRY. IS HE THE ONLY ONE THAT WE HAVE A LEASE WITH FOR SIGNS.

NO, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SEVERAL LEASES.

WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 15 BILLBOARDS THAT WE HAVE OUT, AND I THINK ALMOST 90% OF THOSE BILLBOARDS ARE MUNICIPALLY LEASED SPACE OTHER THAN AS OPPOSED TO GOING THROUGH A SIGN COMPANY, WHICH IS A SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER COST TO HAVE A BILLBOARD TO DO IT THROUGH A SIGN COMPANY AS OPPOSED TO LEASING THE LAND THEN LEASING THAT SIGN SPACE.

OR LEASING THE SIGN SPACE FROM THE MTO DIRECTLY.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT IS CARRIED.

NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF A COVENANT DIRECTOR FROM SORRY, A REPORT FROM OUR DIRECTOR OF CLERKS AND PLANNING SERVICES.

THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF CLERKS AND PLANNING SERVICES REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF COVENANT BE RECEIVED AND THAT A ONE YEAR EXTENSION ON THE CONSTRUCTION DEADLINE BE AUTHORIZED AS PER THE REQUEST DATED DECEMBER 7TH, 2022.

WITH RESPECT TO THE COVENANT AT 50 SUGARBUSH HEIGHTS, SUBJECT TO THE APPLICABLE FEE OF $1,000.

CAN I GET A MOVER? COUNCILLOR MORISSETTE.

SECONDER? COUNCILLOR WANNAN.

THIS IS AN ITEM THAT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL ACTUALLY DEALT WITH AS WELL.

THIS PROPONENT HAS COME TO COUNCIL TENTATIVELY REQUESTING SUPPORT FOR A EXTENSION EARLIER IN THE YEAR.

WASN'T SURE IF HE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION PRIOR TO THE END OF HIS COVENANT.

DIRECTION WAS GIVEN AT THAT TIME TO NOT EXPEND THE $1,000.

HE HAS SINCE HAD FURTHER DELAYS, SUPPLY PRODUCTS AND SO FORTH.

EXPECTS TO HAVE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DONE BY MID TO LATE SUMMER.

SO THIS $1,000 FEE IS A STANDARD FEE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PROCESS TO EXTEND THIS COVENANT FOR THE EXTRA YEAR, AND THE PROPONENT IS QUITE COMFORTABLE THAT HE BELIEVES THAT HE SHOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE BY THE END OF THE COVENANT OF THE FIFTH YEAR.

ANY QUESTIONS? CONCERNS? NONE CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR? THAT IS CARRIED.

ITEM 7.4, A REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF CLERKS AND PLANNING SERVICES.

WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT FROM JL RICHARDS AND ASSOCIATES LTD, DATED NOVEMBER 3RD, 2022 BE RECEIVED, AND THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE AMENDMENTS AS PRESENTED THEREIN TO BYLAW 1836, THE CITY'S ZONING BYLAW, AND THAT COUNCIL ENACT THE AMENDING BYLAW.

CAN I GET A MOVER? COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

SECONDER? COUNCILLOR SEIDEL.

THIS IS THE MEETING THAT WE HAD AT OUR 6:00 SPECIAL MEETING.

THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL HOUSEKEEPING AND CHANGES THAT HAS BEEN TRANSPIRING OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, I DO BELIEVE, THROUGH OUR CLERK'S DEPARTMENT.

I'M CLEANING UP OUR ZONING BYLAW.

AT THE PUBLIC MEETING, THERE WERE NO PUBLIC INPUT, THERE WAS NO CORRESPONDENCE AND NO QUESTIONS.

WITH THAT, DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE THE PROPONENT HERE ANY LONGER, BUT WE DID HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE QUESTIONS OF JL RICHARDS AT THE 6 P.M.

PUBLIC MEETING. NO QUESTIONS.

I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? THAT IS CARRIED.

ITEM 7.5.

REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF CLERKS AND PLANNING SERVICES.

WE HAVE COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS TO OUTSIDE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES FOR 2022 TO 2026, AND THE RECOMMENDATION?

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THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF CLERKS AND PLANNING SERVICES RE COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS TO OUTSIDE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES BY THE MAYOR BE RECEIVED, AND THAT THE FOLLOWING APPOINTMENTS OF COUNCILLORS TO OUTSIDE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES ARE HEREBY APPROVED UNTIL THEIR SUCCESSORS ARE APPOINTED THAT MAYOR PATRIE AND COUNCILLOR MANN BE APPOINTED TO THE AD HOC COMMUNITY HEALTH CARE COMMITTEE, AND THAT COUNCILLOR WANNAN AND COUNCILLOR MANN BE APPOINTED TO THE ELLIOT LAKE RETIREMENT LIVING BOARD, AND THAT COUNCILLOR MANN BE APPOINTED TO THE ALGOMA DISTRICT MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION, AND THAT COUNCILLOR MORISSETTE BE APPOINTED TO THE ALGOMA PUBLIC HEALTH UNIT, AND THAT COUNCILLOR MORISSETTE BE APPOINTED TO THE RENAISSANCE SENIOR CENTER, AND THAT MAYOR PATRIE AND COUNCILLORS MANN, BULL AND FLINTOFF BE APPOINTED TO THE DISTRICT SERVICES ADMINISTRATION BOARD, AND THAT COUNCILLOR BULL BE APPOINTED TO THE HURON LODGE COMMITTEE AND THAT MAYOR PATRIE AND COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF BE APPOINTED TO THE ELLIOT LAKE POLICE SERVICES BOARD, AND THAT COUNCILLOR WANNAN BE APPOINTED TO THE ELLIOT LAKE AND NORTH SHORE CORPORATION FOR BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.

THAT MAYOR PATRIE AND COUNCILLORS MANN AND FLINTOFF BE APPOINTED TO THE [INAUDIBLE] COMMITTEE, AND THAT MAYOR PATRIE AND COUNCILLORS MAN AND WANNAN BE APPOINTED TO THE SERPENT RIVER AND ELLIOT LAKE LANDS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I DON'T HAVE IT. THANK YOU.

PRINTER MISSED A PAGE, I'M VERY SORRY.

THAT COUNCILLOR SEIDEL BE APPOINTED TO THE MISSISSAUGA PARK COMMISSION AND THAT MAYOR PATRIE BE APPOINTED TO THE INDIGENOUS FRIENDSHIP CENTER.

COULD I GET A MOVER IN SECONDER? COUNCILLOR WANNAN.

SECONDER? COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.

SEEING NONE. I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT MOTION IS CARRIED.

[8. PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS]

RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO PROCEED WITH OPTION ONE AND THE UNDERTAKING OF THE 2023 ICE FISHING DERBY ON HORN LAKE, AND THAT THE EVENT TAKE PLACE ON FEBRUARY 25.

CAN I GET A MOVER AND A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR BULL? SECONDER? COUNCILLOR MORISSETTE.

IT'S THE REC AND CULTURE MEETING.

WE HAD A REPORT FROM MR. KLUKE, AND IT WAS ASKED AT THAT TIME THIS BE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION TO PUT THE DERBY ON WITH A COUPLE OF CHANGES AT THE TIME AT THE MEETING.

TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.

I'M HOPEFUL THAT STAFF HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH SOME WORK ON THIS BECAUSE THIS IS VERY, VERY TIME SENSITIVE, BUT WITH THAT, I WILL ASK, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

THANK YOU. YOUR WORSHIP, I GUESS THROUGH YOU TO MR. ANTUNES. SO YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS HERE.

OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO, AND YOU'RE RECOMMENDING OPTION ONE.

SO CAN I GIVE SOME INPUT ON ALL THAT? I DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH OPTION ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THERE, ARE THERE TO FISH, AND I KNOW THE MINDSET THAT YOU HAVE. WELL, THEY'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND GO TO THE STORES TO QUALIFY FOR THE DRAW.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO I KNOW YOU DID THAT FOR THE NIGHT ON THE TOWN, BUT THE NIGHT ON THE TOWN WAS BASED ON SHOPPING, LIKE THEY WERE IN A SHOPPING MINDSET.

MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO THIS ARE LOADING UP WITH THEIR KIDS AND THEIR SLEDS AND THEIR GEAR, AND THEY'RE THERE TO FISH AND SEE WHAT [INAUDIBLE] PRIZE YOU HAVE. SO I'M FEELING THAT IF YOU SAY, WELL, THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO WIN A DOOR PRIZE IS IF YOU GO TO A STORE.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANY PARTICULAR STORE THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO FEEL THAT THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE SAME AMOUNT OF BANG FOR THEIR BUCK WITH THEIR $100.

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BUT I'VE TALKED TO FIVE OR SIX LOCAL PEOPLE ON THEIR VIBES ON YOUR TWO OPTIONS, AND THEY ALL TOLD ME OPTION TWO AND THEY'RE THINKING IS, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COLD ALL DAY.

WE GO TO THE COLLINS HALL, WE CAN GO THERE IN OUR GEAR, AND I KNOW YOU'RE CONCERNED.

YOU DON'T WANT TO TURN IT INTO A BIG HOO-HA LATE NIGHT, BUT IF YOU PUT A TIME LIMIT OF, LET'S SAY 7:30, GO GET YOUR PRIZE AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A PARKING CONCERN ON HERE. WELL, IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE PARKING AT THE COLLINS HALL, THE PARKING CONCERN'S THE SAME DOWN AT THE HIGHWAY.

SO EITHER WAY, THERE'S PARKING CONCERNS.

SO MY PERSONAL FEELING IS I WOULD PREFER TO SEE OPTION TWO.

I KNOW OPTION ONE AND THE THOUGHT BEHIND IT TO GET THEM IN THE STORES.

I JUST DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE STORES TO GET THEIR DOOR PRIZE BALLOT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? COUNCILLOR WANNAN.

THANK YOU THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP.

JUST A COMMENT.

I WOULD BE A LOT IN AGREEMENT WITH COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

IN FACT, I THINK I'M THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS UP AS THE SECOND OPTION.

I'M THE SAME ANYBODY THAT I'VE CONSULTED WITH ON THESE TWO POTENTIAL OPTIONS.

NUMBER TWO IS BY FAR THE MOST WELCOMED BY THE PEOPLE THAT I HAVE DISCUSSED IT WITH, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST GOING TO ADD.

I THINK OPTION TWO IS ALSO THE BETTER ONE.

COUNCILLOR MORISSETTE. I THOUGHT THAT COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF WAS DIRECTING A QUESTION TO MR. ANTUNES AND HE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO REPLY, SO I WAS WONDERING WHAT WAS HIS ANSWER? WHICH QUESTION? TO WHAT MR. FLINTOFF SAID EARLIER ABOUT OPTION ONE AND TWO.

UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION? GIVE IT YOUR BEST SHOT. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

YES, AND I APPRECIATE COMMENTS FROM ALL COUNCILLORS.

I'VE, IN FACT, RECEIVED THE OPPOSITE RESPONSE FROM FOUR OF THE FOLKS THAT I'VE IMMEDIATELY GOT AN UNSOLICITED RESPONSE TO.

IT WAS A COMBINATION OF SEVERAL THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

IT WASN'T JUST LIABILITY, IT WAS EXTRA STAFF TIME THAT WAS PART OF IT.

CAPACITY AT COLLINS HALL IS 425 PEOPLE.

SO IF WE HAD AN EVENT THAT HAD SIGNIFICANT OTHERS INVOLVED, AS WAS SUGGESTED BEFORE.

SOMEWHAT LIMITED IN THAT THE IDEA AND THE WHOLE BASIS BEHIND THE RECOMMENDATION FROM MY DEPARTMENT WAS THE IDEA OF GETTING FOLKS INTO THE COMMUNITY, REGARDLESS.

IT WAS ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SIDE.

THAT'S THE LENS THAT WE LOOKED THROUGH.

ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS YEAR WE HAVE FOUND OUT THAT THE [INAUDIBLE] DERBY AND I APOLOGIZE.

I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THE WHOLE NAME BECAUSE I BUTCHERED EVERY TIME I SAY IT, [INAUDIBLE] I THINK IS THE ACTUAL TRUE PRONUNCIATION.

THEIR DERBY'S BEEN CANCELED FOR THIS YEAR, SO PART OF THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE FISHING DERBY WAS NOT, IN MY OPINION, INTENDED FOR LOCALS.

IT'S A SIDE PART OF IT, BUT IT'S A TOURISM ATTRACTION FOR THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS HOW WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IT FROM OUR DEPARTMENT, AND BY HAVING THE ABILITY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] CONTEST BEING CANCELED, IT WAS A WAY TO GET PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THAT'S JUST WHAT OUR POINT OF VIEW WAS, AND THAT WAS ALSO THE LIMITATION OF NOT HAVING TO GET 40 DOOR PRIZES LIKE WE HAD IN THE PAST OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS, AND MAKING IT A MUCH BIGGER DRAW THAT WAY , AND PARKING ON THE HIGHWAY VERSUS PARKING AT COLLINS WAS ACTUALLY THE COMMENT I WAS GOING TO RAISE MY HAND WHEN YOU MENTIONED IT WAS CAPACITY ON THE HIGHWAY THERE, PARKED UP AND DOWN THE HIGHWAY AND JUST A MATTER OF TRYING TO FIT ALL THOSE PEOPLE BACK INTO COLLINS HALL, WHICH WAS THE THE CHALLENGE.

SO THAT WAS THAT WAS JUST THE TWO ANSWERS TO SOME OF THE POINTS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.

JUST ANOTHER QUESTION TO STAFF AND I APOLOGIZE.

I'M NOT SURE WHO TO DIRECT IT TO, SO I'LL PUT IT OUT THERE.

BASED ON THE NUMBERS FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, 476 AND 423 WHEN THE EVENT WAS HELD, THE NUMBER QUOTED TONIGHT WAS 425.

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THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COUNCILLOR BULL. I THINK THE FISHING DERBY IS A GOOD IDEA.

I DID ATTEND WHEN IT FIRST STARTED THE PRIZE PRESENTATIONS AT THE COLLINS HALL AND THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A PARKING ISSUE, BUT IT WAS WELL-ATTENDED BY THE OUT-OF-TOWNERS AND THE LOCALS.

SO I DON'T SEE WHY IT WOULDN'T WORK AGAIN THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR.

THANK YOU. BREAKING FROM PROTOCOL, BUT GO AHEAD.

MR. GAGNON.

JUST ANOTHER POINT THAT HASN'T BEEN QUITE CLARIFIED ENOUGH IS THAT WE'RE SOMEWHAT UNEASY SERVING ALCOHOL AT FOUR IN THE AFTERNOON ON A SATURDAY AFTERNOON. SO THAT IS A CONCERN.

THERE WERE SOME ISSUES IN THE PAST WITH THE SIZE OF EVENT AND THE SIZE OF THE USE OF THE BAR.

SO WE WOULD IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WE MAY BE LIMITING VERY STRATEGICALLY AND STRONGLY THE AMOUNT OF ALCOHOL TAKEN IN ON A SATURDAY AFTERNOON WHEN YOU START AT FOUR IN THE AFTERNOON. COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU YOURR WORSHIP TO MR. GAGNON. WELL, WHEN THEY START TO DRAG RACES, WHAT TIME DID THEY START SERVING ALCOHOL? IT COULD BE QUITE EARLIER, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT EVENT, BUT WE COULD LIMIT IT.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BEFORE I SPEAK? COUNCILLOR MANN. DOES COUNCIL HAVE A FEELING WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE LICENSED OR NOT? I GUESS THAT'S REALLY THE ISSUE.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A WARMING SITUATION, TO GET PEOPLE OFF THE ICE AND INTO ANOTHER VENUE IS THE LIQUOR LICENSE THE DRIVING FACTOR IN THIS.

I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE IT IS.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, HAVING A LIQUOR LICENSE FOR 3 HOURS IS PROBLEMATIC.

I GET IT, BUT AGAIN, HAVING THE EVENT INDOORS, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE WEATHER IS GOING TO BE LIKE.

FORTUNATELY, WE'RE DISCUSSING HAVING THIS DERBY IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.

SO WE SHOULD START THERE AS OPPOSED TO JUST SAYING, NO, WE'RE STILL STUCK IN COVID, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DEAL WITH THIS.

WE'RE NOT HAVING THAT DISCUSSION.

WE'RE MOVING AHEAD WITH THIS.

SO I THINK THAT'S GOOD DISCUSSION TO HAVE, AND I DON'T WANT IT TO GET SIDETRACKED ON LICENSE OR NOT.

I THINK, AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT COULD BE UP AT THE COLLINS HALL, WHICH COULD AGAIN, TURN IT INTO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CREATE THE CONCERNS OF ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CONCUR WITH BOTH COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF AND WANNAN.

I BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD GO INDOORS.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS SINCE ITS INCEPTION.

THERE HAVE NOT BEEN A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE ALCOHOL.

YOU CAN DO A CUT OFF THAT YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOUR PRIZES ARE DONE AND COMPLETED BY 6:00 PM.

WE DO HAVE AN ALCOHOL POLICY AND I WOULD EXPECT STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS ADHERED TO, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE INTOXICATED PEOPLE ON THE PREMISES. THE BENEFIT WHEN THIS WAS DONE AT THE COLLINS HALL BEFORE, WE HAD NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD RUN THE BAR, THERE WAS NO FURTHER EXTENT OF LABOR COSTS TO THE MUNICIPALITY.

THAT WAS ALSO ORGANIZATIONS THAT ACTUALLY DID THE FOOD AND BROUGHT FOOD IN.

I BELIEVE ONE YEAR IT WAS CHILI, ONE YEAR IT WAS SPAGHETTI, AND THOSE ORGANIZATIONS WERE MAKING MONEY AS WELL.

SO IT WAS A FUNDRAISER EVENT FOR THEM.

THE ASPECT OF DOING THE PRIZES ON THE LAKE.

THE LAKE IS A DANGEROUS PLACE.

IF WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT LIABILITY, I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT DOING A FISHING DERBY.

IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT SLIP AND FALL, YOU'VE GOT 400 PEOPLE RUNNING TO HOLES AND RUNNING AROUND AND JUMPING AROUND FOR A DERBY.

I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE REASON WHY NOT TO MOVE IT TO THE COLLINS HALL.

THE ASPECT THAT THE LIMITATION IS 425 PEOPLE AT THE COLLINS HALL.

I THINK EVEN THE YEAR THAT THERE WERE 800 PEOPLE, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A CAPACITY PROBLEM AT THE COLLINS HALL BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE PRIZE AWARD PRESENTATIONS.

A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'VE BEEN OUT HERE FOR 4 HOURS.

I'M FROZEN.

I'M GOING HOME TO HAVE A SHOWER AND I'M NOT GOING TO SIT THROUGH THE PRIZE PRESENTATION AT ALL.

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COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

I'VE NEVER DONE AN AMEND, SO I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE A VOTE ON DOING OPTION TWO.

AMEND THE MOTION TO PROCEED WITH OPTION TWO.

AMEND THE MOTION TO PROCEED WITH OPTION TWO.

SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR WANNAN.

SO ON ON THE AMENDMENT, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD, COUNCILLOR BULL.

THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

ARE WE SETTING A TIME LIMIT TO BE DONE AT A CERTAIN TIME WITH A LIQUOR LICENSE OR? ONCE WE APPROVE THE AMENDMENT, WE CAN GO BACK TO THE MOTION AS A WHOLE, AS AMENDED, AND HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS AS WELL.

WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE AMENDMENT? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT THAT IS CARRIED SO ON THE MOTION AS AMENDED.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD, COUNCILLOR BULL.

I'LL LET YOU SPEAK FIRST.

THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. IS THERE GOING TO BE A TIME LIMIT FOR THE BAR BEING OPEN OR DO WE HAVE TO GIVE DIRECTION TOWARDS THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE PAST WHEN THEY DID HAVE A BAR, THERE WAS USUALLY A DANCE AFTER, AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF PROBLEMS HAPPEN.

BUT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT THIS TIME.

SO IF WE SET A TIME LIMIT, THEN MAYBE WE CAN AVOID ANY POTENTIAL ISSUES.

I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH DOING THAT.

I DO KNOW AND I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF HAVE HEARD, BUT THERE WAS A PROPONENT THAT WANTED TO DO A DANCE FUNDRAISER ON THAT EVENING AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

IF STAFF HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM, I WILL RECOMMEND AFTER THE MEETING WHO TO GET A HOLD OF AND POTENTIALLY TALK TO THEM ABOUT DOING THE DANCE.

I DO AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCILLOR BULL.

IF WE'RE GOING TO SERVE ALCOHOL, WE SHOULD PROBABLY PUT A TIME LIMIT OF 6 P.M.

THAT WILL GET THE PEOPLE TO THE COLLINS HALL QUICKER ORGANIZED.

THE PREDICAMENT WITH THAT IS WE NEED STAFF TO BE ORGANIZED AND READY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PRIZES ARE DONE AND OUT AND THE ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE MADE IN TIME SO THAT WE DO NOT GO PAST THAT 6:00 PM HARD STOP OF THE LIQUOR LICENSE.

WITH THAT, I WILL LET MR. ANTUNES SPEAK.

THINK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO COUNCILLOR BULL.

IT WON'T BE A PROBLEM AS FAR AS TIMING.

THE BUDGET AS WE'VE DONE IS DONE.

IT WAS DONE IN SUCH A MANNER TO LIMIT THE WHAT FELT LIKE COUNTLESS DOOR PRIZE AFTER DOOR PRIZE AND GOING THROUGH.

SO THE EXPECTATION, THE $1,000 DOOR PRIZE, SPLITTING THAT UP, EVEN WORKING WITH SOME OF OUR SPONSORS, THE PRIZING WILL NOT LAST LONG.

SO IF PEOPLE ARE THERE TO GET THEIR DOOR PRIZE, IN MY EXPERIENCE HAVING DONE IT AND AGAIN NOT BEING VERY SUCCESSFUL IN ANGLER, I WAIT FOR MY DOOR PRIZES AS SOON AS THE LAST DOOR PRIZE IS CALLED, I AM GONE, AND AS WERE MANY OTHER PEOPLE, WE SAW THE MASS EXODUS ON THE HIGHWAY.

SO WITH THE MORE LIMITED NUMBER OF DOOR PRIZES POTENTIALLY THIS YEAR, 3:00 THE DERBY ENDS WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE IT OVER MAYBE 3:45 10-15 DOOR PRIZES ANNOUNCE THE WINNERS NOVELTY CHECK DONE 4:15 AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO REMAIN TO DRINK, IF IT BECOMES LICENSED DRINK OR SIT AROUND AND HAVE HOT CHOCOLATE AND HOT DOGS AND MARSHMALLOWS, THEN IT WON'T BE A VERY LONG EVENT JUST BY ITS VERY NATURE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

SO I HAVE ONE OTHER COMMENT ON YOUR BUDGET, MR. ANTUNES. SPONSORSHIPS OF $1,000.

THAT WOULD BE THE LOWEST SPONSORSHIP THAT THAT DERBY HAS EVER HAD SINCE INCEPTION.

I KNOW BACK IN THE ORIGINAL DAYS OF THAT DERBY, IT WAS TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN SPONSORSHIPS AND DONATIONS.

THERE ARE AN AWFUL LOT OF PARTNERS IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT SPONSOR THIS EVENT TO MAKE THIS A STRONG COMMUNITY EVENT.

SO TRADITIONALLY WHAT STAFF WOULD DO IS THEY WOULD BASE THEIR PRIZES ON THAT IN THEIR DOOR PRIZES, AND THAT IS WHY THERE WERE SO MANY PRIZES AT THE EVENT, WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS SUCH A GOOD UPTAKE FROM THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE THIS A STRONG COMMUNITY EVENT.

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WE TRADITIONALLY HAVEN'T LOST MONEY OTHER THAN STAFF TIME ON IT.

GO AHEAD, MR. ANTUNES.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE LAST TWO YEARS ON OUR GL ACCOUNT.

THAT'S WHAT WAS PUT IN AS A TRUE SPONSORSHIP.

SO FOR ADVERTISING, THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT THE SPONSORSHIP IS.

THAT'S AS I UNDERSTAND, WHERE THE PRIZING CAME IN.

SO SOMEONE MAY HAVE BEEN A SPONSOR BY DONATING PRIZES, BUT TRUE CASH SPONSORSHIP AS A TITLE SPONSOR PERHAPS, OR ANYTHING ELSE.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAD.

WE WERE USING HISTORICAL DATA FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS TO PULL THAT UP.

SO THAT'S WHAT I BASED MY BUDGET ON.

I CAN PRETTY MUCH GUARANTEE YOUR DATA IS INCORRECT.

THAT'S FINE, THOUGH, AND THAT'S NO FAULT OF THE STAFF TODAY, IF THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS ON THERE, BUT SOMEBODY GAVE YOU BAD INFORMATION SOMEWHERE BACK IN THE DAY.

WAY BACK. I GOT TO REMEMBER, THIS HASN'T HAPPENED FOR THREE YEARS, BUT WITH THAT, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

SEEING NONE ON THE MOTION AS AMENDED.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT IS CARRIED.

CONGRATULATIONS, WE'RE HAVING A FISHING DERBY.

I HOPE YOU HAVE TICKETS AVAILABLE FOR SALE TOMORROW.

ITEM 8.2.

I SKIPPED A PAGE. SORRY.

REPORT FROM THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER FOR CONSIDERATION OF COUNCIL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE REPORT OF THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL APPROVE AN UPSET LIMIT OF A $25,000 DONATION TO THE SNOWBIRDS SNOWMOBILE CLUB TOWARDS THE STAND ROCK ROAD DETOUR TRAIL AND THAT THE TREASURER BE DIRECTED TO DISTRIBUTE THE FUNDS FROM THE 2022 TRAILS CONTRACTED SERVICES BUDGET.

CAN I GET A MOVER AND A SECONDER? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

SECONDED BY COUNCIL BULL.

I'LL REITERATE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT I STATED AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT UP.

I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT THIS IS COMING FORWARD THE WAY THAT IT'S COMING FORWARD WITH NO GRANT APPLICATIONS TO THE PROVINCE.

ACCORDING TO THE REPORTS AND THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AS A COUNCIL, THIS HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS.

THERE'S FUNDING THAT WAS APPROVED SIX MONTHS AGO OR MAYBE EVEN FURTHER EIGHT MONTHS AGO.

THE PREDICAMENT WE HAVE IS WE POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE GOTTEN AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY FROM THE PROVINCE, SEEING AS THERE'S $25,000 THAT THE SNOWBIRDS ALREADY HAVE THAT WE COULD HAVE USED AS SEED MONEY TO GET THEM A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM THE PROVINCE.

I DON'T HOPEFULLY SEE THAT EVER COME BACK TO COUNCIL IN THIS WAY AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S NOW TAXPAYERS THAT ARE BEING ASKED TO PAY FOR THIS, WHERE WE COULD HAVE POTENTIALLY GOTTEN PROVINCIAL TAXPAYERS TO PAY FOR THIS MONEY AND GOTTEN A SUBSTANTIALLY A LOT MORE MONEY AND A LOT MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK.

WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF COUNCIL? MR. NUMBER ONE.

COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

I'VE LOOKED THIS OVER AND I FEEL THIS.

THIS IS A REALLY MAJOR SAFETY ISSUE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE OUT THERE AND FOR ALSO THE SCOOTERS THAT USE THE ROADS.

YOU KNOW, OVER THESE LOT OF YEARS, I'VE SEEN THE CITY SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT I DIDN'T SOMETIMES AGREE WITH, BUT IT'S THEIR DECISIONS, AND THE $25,000, THAT'S LESS THAN A QUARTER OF THE MONEY THAT WE SPENT TO DO THE DRAG RACES LAST SUMMER.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IF WE DO IT, IT'S DONE AND IT'S DONE FOR A LOT OF YEARS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR AS LONG AS THEY'RE [INAUDIBLE], AND IT HELPS TOURISM.

THE SNOWBIRDS HAVE DONE THEIR PARTAKING.

TO ME, I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD SUPPORT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR SEIDEL.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

I AGREE WITH COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A LIABILITY WAITING TO HAPPEN ON OUR MUNICIPALLY OWNED ROAD.

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SO I SUPPORT THIS MOTION TONIGHT, AND THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? COUNCILLOR MORISSETTE.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION, YOUR WORSHIP.

IS THIS TRAIL AVAILABLE IN THE SUMMERTIME FOR THE ATVS ALSO, OR IS IT JUST STRICTLY SNOWMOBILE? IT WILL EFFECTIVELY BECOME AN ATV TRAIL IN THE SUMMER.

ALL OF OUR OFSC TRAILS, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT APPROVED BY OFSC TO BE CONVERTED TO ATV TRAILS, THEY ARE ALL UTILIZED BY THE ATVS IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO, YES, THIS WILL BE BECOME A YEAR ROUND TRAIL.

COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOU.

YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. JUST TO RESPOND TO COUNCILLOR MORISSETTE'S COMMENT, I DID ASK AT COMMITTEE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IN THE REPORT THERE WAS A COMMENT REGARDING THE POTENTIAL ORIGINAL UPSET LIMIT OF JUST OVER $50,000 AND THERE WAS A CONCERN WITH THE POTENTIAL OF EITHER A CULVERT OR A BRIDGE BEING REQUIRED.

SO THERE IS ONE WATER CROSSING.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE SPAN OF IT, BUT THERE MIGHT BE SOME CONCERNS WITH SUMMER CROSSING BECAUSE WE WERE ADVISED THAT IN THE WINTER IT FREEZES.

SO IT'S REALLY NOT AN ISSUE FOR THE SNOWMOBILES OR THE GROOMER TO CROSS BECAUSE IT'S FROZEN, BUT IN THE SUMMER, DEPENDING ON THE DEPTH AND LENGTH, THERE COULD BE SOME ISSUES.

SO WITHOUT SOME POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL WORK, WHICH AGAIN, I THINK IS NEEDED BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I THINK WE SHOULD ENSURE THAT IT'S FOR A YEAR ROUND USE AND NOT JUST SEASONAL OR WINTER, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IN LOOKING AT THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE RECEIVED LOTS OF INFORMATION ON THIS, ESPECIALLY SOME RECENTLY, AND AGAIN, I THINK I THINK THERE'S A HUGE TIME CRUNCH.

I'M NOT GOING TO DISAGREE WITH ANY OF THE COMMENTS SAID.

MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT WAS AND AGAIN, NO DISRESPECT TO MR. GAGNON'S COMMENTS, BUT I WOULDN'T LOOK AT THIS AS A DONATION.

I LOOK AT THIS MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP IF WE ARE GOING TO DO IT FOR, AGAIN, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

THOSE WOULD BE MY ONLY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR BULL.

THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP TO MR. GAGNON, I GUESS, OR WHOEVER.

IS IT STILL FEASIBLE TO DO THE TRAIL NOW, CONSIDERING THIS TIME OF YEAR? AND DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY OR WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE TO GET SOMEONE TO DO THE TRAIL? WE HAVE THE PERMIT OR THE CLUB HAS A PERMIT AND THE WORK IS SLATED TO HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY 31ST.

SO THAT IS THE WINDOW, BUT I MEAN, MR. [INAUDIBLE] WOULD BE BETTER TO SPEAK TO THE LOGISTICS OF WHAT HAPPENS AFTERWARDS.

I CHOSE THE WORD DONATION ON PURPOSE IN THE SENSE THAT WE'RE MAKING A DONATION TO THE CLUB.

THE CLUB IS DOING THE PROJECT.

IT'S THE CLUB'S SCOPE OF WORK.

IT'S THE CLUB'S PERMIT WITH THE M&R TO BUILD THE SNOWMOBILE TRAIL WITHIN THE COMING WEEKS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ARE CONCERNS.

WITH THAT, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR? THAT IS CARRIED.

ITEM 8.3.

REPORT FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

REPORT THAT THE REPORT OF THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO PREPARE AN AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE AND SALE FOR THE LANDS KNOWN AS PARTS 11 AND 13 ON PIN 31404-0239 ON OAKLAND BOULEVARD, AND THAT THIS AGREEMENT BE FORWARDED TO THE LEGAL REPRESENTATION OF MR. DON EISNER TO BE COMPLETED.

CAN I GET A MOVER AND A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR WANNAN AND COUNCILLOR MORISSETTE.

THIS, AGAIN, IS ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT WHEN IT CAME TO THE STANDING COMMITTEE, IT CAME TO BE POTENTIALLY DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION.

IT'S A FULL PRICE OFFER.

IT'S GOT THE TWO YEAR COVENANT TO BUILD 1000 SQUARE FEET ON THE PROPERTY.

IT'S FULL PRICE. SO THE RECOMMENDATION AT COMMITTEE WAS TO NOT DISCUSS IT IN CLOSED SESSION AND THAT IS WHY IT'S BEING BROUGHT TONIGHT IN THE OPEN.

SO WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS WITH THIS OFFER?

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ITEM 8.4.

WE HAVE A MEMO FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

CAN WE GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE? MOVER COUNCILLOR WANNAN.

SECONDER COUNCILLOR MANN.

IT'S THE DECEMBER REPORT OF THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS WITH THIS? I DO BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD ON THE VOTE.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE DRIFTSCAPE PROPONENT OF THIS REPORT.

IT'S A $7,000 A YEAR COST.

WE DON'T I ASK THE QUESTION WHO IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS? WHAT DEPARTMENT WAS GOING TO CONTROL IT? I DON'T THINK THAT WE.

SO WE'RE NOW $7,000 IN FOR 2022 AND 2023.

WE DON'T HAVE STAFF IN PLACE TO POPULATE, MONITOR AND CREATE THE INFORMATION THAT GOES INTO THIS PROGRAM, AND AGAIN, THIS HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD TO BUDGET. I THINK THAT THIS DRIFTSCAPE PROGRAM SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO COMMITTEE AND BROUGHT FORWARD TO BUDGET FOR 2023 PRIOR TO IT JUST BEING APPROVED BEFORE COUNCIL HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN THIS IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO.

SO WE'VE PAID THE $7,000 FOR THIS YEAR.

WHEN DO WE EXPECT THIS TO BE ABLE TO BE UP AND RUNNING, FULLY POPULATED WITH INFORMATION THAT DIRECTION? THAT QUESTION WOULD BE TO MR. ANTUNES. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

THE BUDGET SPEND WAS DONE IN ADVANCE TO COVER INTO 2023.

WE DID RECEIVE, I BELIEVE IT WAS TWO MONTHS OF NO CHARGE.

SO WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE SETUP PORTION OF WHAT WE'VE GOT WITH THE PROGRAM.

SO IT'S AN ADVERTISING EXPENSE THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSUMED IT AS AN ADVERTISING EXPENSE FOR WHAT WE ARE DOING FOR PROMOTION, AND AS FAR AS FACILITATION, MRS. DOYLE, FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHO IS OUR TOURISM COORDINATOR, IS VERY UP TO THE TASK OF BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT AND THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEING INPUT AS WE SPEAK THROUGH MS. D'AMATO AND MRS. DOYLE SEEMS TO BE GOING EXTREMELY SMOOTHLY.

SO FROM THE PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT SIDE, I HAVE NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THE STAFF IN MY DEPARTMENT ARE MORE THAN CAPABLE TO CONTINUE FACILITATING THE PIECE OF SOFTWARE. SO THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING.

SO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE THE ONE CONTROLLING AND TAKING CARE OF ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS IN IS THE ONE THING, AND THEN IF YOU'VE TAKEN THAT $7,000 OUT OF YOUR ADVERTISING BUDGET, YOUR BUDGET WAS APPROVED TO BE SPENT ON CERTAIN THINGS.

HAVE YOU TAKEN $7,000 OUT OF YOUR CURRENT ADVERTISING BUDGET ON SOMETHING THAT YOU DIDN'T DO? THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, WE DO EVERYTHING UNDER BUDGET IN ACTIVE.

SO WE DID HAVE THE SPACE TO HAVE THE SPEND AND IT'S PART OF OUR TOURISM SPEND AND WHAT WE WERE PUT FORTH TO DO.

WE WERE WORKING ON THIS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AND BUDGETING IT INTO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AS FAR AS THE REACH AND JUST TO CORRECT MYSELF AS FAR AS THE MUSEUM PORTION OF IT.

MISS D'AMATO FILLS THAT IN, BUT THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY EASILY TO BE DONE BETWEEN ACTIVE AND OF COURSE, THE MUSEUM COORDINATOR IF THERE IS MUSEUM BASED ITEMS. THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? THAT IS CARRIED. WE HAVE NO OUTSIDE BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTING UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

[10. UNFINISHED BUSINESS]

YES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

SO WE ARE WORKING AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN TO SALVAGE THE GRANT, AS YOU KNOW, FOR THE DOWNTOWN ARTS CENTER, BUT ALSO ON A PARALLEL TRACK, WE HAVEN'T LOST SIGHT OF THE ARTS AND CULTURE HUB OR BUILDING WE HOPE TO HAVE ON 255 108 SO THERE IS A FUNDING OPPORTUNITY THAT HAS ARISEN. THE GREEN AND INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY GRANT FUND THAT WE APPLIED TO IN THE FIRST PLACE AND WERE TURNED DOWN BECAUSE WE WERE THE FUND WAS TERRIBLY OVERSUBSCRIBED, HAS ANOTHER INTAKE COMING AT THE END OF FEBRUARY.

SO WE REACHED OUT TO BROOK MCILROY, THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM THAT DID THE FIRST FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THE DESIGN WORK, AND WE STARTED

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I'M HOPING COUNCIL WOULD INDULGE WITH A MOTION THAT BASICALLY JUST SORT OF GIVES STAFF SOME DISCRETION TO START CONVERSATIONS WITH BROOK MCILROY, WHO DID WIN A COMPETITIVE TENDER TO BE THE DESIGNER FOR THE FIRST ROUND.

WITHOUT ANY NUMBERS, ADMITTEDLY, I DON'T HAVE A COST NUMBER, SO IT WOULD JUST BE SORT OF A DECLARATION OF INTENT.

GIVE US SOME DIRECTION.

IT WOULD GIVE US SOME MORE COMFORT WITH THE ENGINEERING FIRM, ARCHITECTURAL FIRM.

WE WOULD COME BACK, OF COURSE, WITH A MORE DETAILED PROPOSAL AND COST ESTIMATE AT THE FIRST CHANCE WE CAN, PROBABLY THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY, BUT IF WE DON'T GIVE BROOK MCILROY A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY TO START WORKING NOW, YOU KNOW, WE WON'T GET TOO FAR IF WE ONLY GIVE THEM A GREEN LIGHT IN MID-JANUARY FOR A DEADLINE OF LATE FEBRUARY.

SO ALL THAT TO BE SAID.

I HAVE A BIT OF A MOTION HERE QUICKLY DRAFTED JUST TO INDICATE THAT YOU WOULD BE GIVING US SOME DIRECTION TO WORK WITH BROOK MCILROY WITHOUT ANY NUMBERS AND THEN TO COME BACK AS SOON AS WE COULD, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S INTERESTING TO YOU.

OTHERWISE, YOU COULD SIMPLY HAVE A DISCUSSION.

WE'LL PICK UP THE PHONE TO BROOK MCILROY ANYWAY, BUT IF WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME COMFORT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM AN EXPECTATION WE CAN'T CARRY THROUGH ON.

SO BEFORE WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION, WE NEED A MOVER AND A SECONDER FOR SOME SORT OF A MOTION.

WE'VE GOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR THAT STAFF BE DIRECTED TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH BROOK MCILROY ON DOCUMENTATION REGARDING REBUILDING OUR ARTS AND CULTURE FACILITY , AND BRING A REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL AT THE FIRST MEETING AVAILABLE ONCE THE REPORT IS WRITTEN , AND FOR CLARITY OF THAT, IT'S SO THAT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL.

IF YOU'VE GOT A REC DEPARTMENT OR AN F&A DEPARTMENT, YOU CAN BRING IT BACK THROUGH ANY STANDING COMMITTEE TO GET THIS FAST TRACKED TO MOVE FORWARD SO THAT WE DON'T LOSE A GRANT APPLICATION AVAILABILITY.

CAN WE GET A MOVER AND A SECONDER FOR THAT? COUNCILLOR MANN, COUNCILLOR WANNAN.

NOW WE CAN DISCUSS IT.

COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

SHOULD WE HAVE LANGUAGE IN THAT RESOLUTION TO INCLUDE THIS SPECIFIC FUNDING OPPORTUNITY OF THE FEBRUARY GREEN SPACE DEADLINE TO BE SPECIFIC? I'M JUST ASKING AND I DO HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION ABOUT THE FUNDING ENVELOPE AS WELL, AND I'LL LEAVE THAT ONE OUT THERE FIRST.

YOU'RE THE MOVER OF THE RESOLUTION THAT I SORT OF PUT ON THE FLOOR.

IF WE WERE TO ADD IN THERE, SORRY, I KNOW YOU'RE TYPING AWAY AS WE DO IT, BUT I COULD ASK MR. GAGNON IF IT'S.

YEAH. WELL, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THE MOTION.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO REFER TO THE GRANT RIGHT NOW.

WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT IS A MANDATE TO WORK WITH BROOK MCILROY AND THE GRANT.

WE WILL LIKELY NEED A MOTION, BUT WE'LL BRING THAT TO A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE GRANT AND WE HAVE TILL LATE FEBRUARY.

COUNCILLOR MANN FOLLOW UP YOUR WORSHIP.

THANK YOU. IS THIS SECOND ROUND OF FUNDING, MR. GAGNON, LARGER THAN THE FIRST ROUND, OR IS IT A SIMILAR SIZE? LIKE WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES IF IT WAS OVERPRESCRIBED THE FIRST TIME? YES, I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER AS TO HOW BIG THE POT IS.

BUT WE WERE INVITED AS ONE OF THE SEVERAL WHO WERE TURNED DOWN IN THE FIRST ROUND, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE.

WE WILL REACH OUT AND GET MORE GRANULAR DETAILS FROM THE FUNDERS AS TO WHAT IT MEANS AND HOW IT'S POTENTIALLY STACKED WITH OTHER FUNDERS THAT WE'RE USED TO.

OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU.

OH, YEAH. SORRY. I DON'T KNOW IF OUR PROGNOSIS IS ANY BETTER THAN THE LAST TIME, BUT AT LEAST IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.

YEAH, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY BELIEVE OUR PROGNOSIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

SEEING IS THERE INVITING US TO PUT A GRANT APPLICATION IN.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? WE'RE GOING TO LET COUNCILLOR MORISSETTE GO FIRST.

HE HAD HIS HAND UP FIRST.

THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

DOES THIS MEAN THAT THE OLD DESIGN WOULD CHANGE WITH THIS NEW PROPOSAL TO INCLUDE OUR WISHES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DONE.

THE EASY ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS MAYBE.

WE DO HAVE PRELIMINARY WORK THAT WE DID, THAT WE APPLIED FOR THE GRANT FROM ONE, BUT THERE IS WORK TO DO AND THERE MAY BE SOME TWEAKING WITH NEW INFORMATION AND

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WITH NEW INFORMATION, NEW REGULATIONS, NEW STUFF COMING FORWARD THAT IT MAY CHANGE SOMEWHAT, BUT IT WON'T BE THE EXACT SAME APPLICATION.

HENCE, STAFF NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD TO SPEAK WITH BROOK MCILROY TO SEE WHAT CHANGES DO NEED TO BE DONE FOR THE NEW GRANT APPLICATION AND WHAT NEW INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO IT.

COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, TO MR. GAGNON.

MY CONCERN IS WE HAVEN'T MADE UP OUR MIND ON WHAT WE'RE DOING AT 255 HIGHWAY 108, BUT WE'RE TOUCHING BASE WITH THE GRANT GENTLEMAN, SORRY, I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME, SO I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE HISTORY AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF OF IT.

SO MY CONCERN IS THE OTHER PROPONENTS THAT ARE PROBABLY HEARING THIS RIGHT NOW ARE PROBABLY WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON.

THAT'S MY WORRY. DO YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THAT OR DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A SHOT AT IT? YOU CAN HANDLE THAT ONE, MR. MAYOR.

SO THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION BECOMES--COUNCIL HAS NOT DECIDED WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO, COMPLETELY.

WITH THE PROPERTY, PART OF THE PROPERTY.

ALL OF THE PROPERTY. MORE OF THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAS ASKED THAT WE NEED MORE INFORMATION ON TO DECIDE WHICH WAY WE'RE GOING TO GO.

I THINK THE IMPORTANT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS WE DON'T CUT OUR NOSE OFF [INAUDIBLE] OUR FACE.

WE KEEP ALL OPTIONS OPEN.

POTENTIALLY WE DON'T WANT TO SAY NO TO A POSSIBLE GRANT APPLICATION, WHILE YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF POTENTIALLY NEGOTIATING WITH.

THE THREE PROPONENTS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD.

WE'RE WAITING FOR MORE INFORMATION FROM STAFF TONIGHT.

THERE'S SOME GOING TO BE COMING IN CLOSED SESSION WITH THE ITEM 10.3.

I PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION WHEN WE COME OUT OF CLOSED SESSION TO MAKE A 100% SOLID ANSWER AS TO THE EXACT WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

THAT PROPERTY.

I BELIEVE THAT ALL THE PROPONENTS THAT HAVE HAD THE DISCUSSIONS WITH US ARE STILL VIABLE TO BE DISCUSSING WITH THEM.

SO YOU DON'T WANT TO TURN AWAY.

YOU DON'T WANT TO JUST SAY, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO APPLY FOR A $25 MILLION GRANT WITH THE POTENTIAL THAT WE MAY BE DOING THIS PROJECT HERE OR OTHER WAYS.

IT'S IMPERATIVE, I THINK, THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE GRANT APPLICATION BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING YET.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? THANK YOU. YOUR WORSHIP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CONCERNS? ON THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT IS CARRIED.

RESIDENTIAL WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE NO UPDATES.

WE DO HAVE 10.3 MEMO FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS A CONTINUING THE REVIEW OF THE THREE PROPOSALS FOR HIGHWAY 255, HIGHWAY 108. CAN I GET A MOTION TO PUT THAT IN CLOSED SESSION? COUNCILLOR MANN. COUNCILLOR MORISSETTE.

AGAIN BEFORE WE TAKE THE VOTE, I WILL REITERATE TO THE PUBLIC, YES, THIS COUNCIL DOES NOT WANT TO DO ANYTHING IN CLOSED SESSION ANY MORE THAN WE HAVE TO, BUT BASED ON THE CONVERSATION THAT WE JUST HAD, THERE IS AN AWFUL LOT OF VERY PERTINENT INFORMATION THAT CANNOT BE MADE PUBLIC IN THESE DISCUSSIONS AND THESE DELIBERATIONS WITH PROPONENTS.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, YES, WE DO CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION IN CLOSED SESSION WHEN WE DO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REPORT PUBLICLY TO THE PUBLIC.

THIS COUNCIL WILL COME FORWARD, AND EVEN IF WE'RE ONLY GIVING YOU SOME SORT OF A RESOLUTION AND NOT A FINAL OUTCOME, WE WILL COME FORWARD AND MAKE SOME KIND OF PARTIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS, BECAUSE I THINK IN THE BEGINNING IT WILL ONLY BE PARTIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS UNTIL WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND FINALIZE EVERYTHING.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG PROCESS FOR US THAT THIS COUNCIL, WE WANT THIS DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU WE CAN'T GET THIS ALL FINALIZED BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT AS SOON AS WE CAN MAKE ANY PUBLIC INFORMATION, PUBLIC OR ANY INFORMATION PUBLIC, WE WILL DO THAT TO THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY.

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I'M CALLING THE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO PETITIONS, NO CORRESPONDENCE, NOTICE OF MOTIONS, COUNCIL REPORT AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[14. COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS]

RECEIVER GENERAL OF CANADA $92,615.

HYDRO ONE NETWORKS $38,774.

MET ENERGY SYSTEMS THEATER 60% WORK $106,785.

OMERS $56,060.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR CHECK WRITES.

AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROCLAMATIONS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS.

I HAVEN'T HAD ANY ORGANIZATIONS COME FORWARD, WHICH I'M SURPRISED THAT AT THIS TIME IN DECEMBER THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OF EVENTS AND FUNCTIONS COMING FORWARD IN THE MUNICIPALITY, BUT IF ANY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL DO HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OF ANY EVENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEW YEAR, I WOULD WELCOME YOUR INPUT.

COUNCILLOR MORISSETTE, WE'LL START WITH YOU.

JUST A COUPLE YOUR WORSHIP.

FIRST, THE HARVEST KITCHEN IS HAVING THEIR CHRISTMAS DINNER ON DECEMBER THE 23RD AT THE LEGION.

IT'S FROM 11:00-1:00.

IT'S A FREE LUNCH.

HARVEST KITCHEN ALSO DOES MEALS ON MONDAYS, WEDNESDAYS AND FRIDAYS AT THE LEGION FROM 11 TO 1:00, AND IT'S ALWAYS FREE TO THE PUBLIC THAT NEEDS IT, AND THE RICHARD [INAUDIBLE] CHRISTMAS DINNER IS BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE HELD AT THE COUNCIL ON DECEMBER THE 25TH, AND THAT'S BEING PUT ON BY A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS , AND AGAIN, THAT IS ALSO A FREE MEAL THAT'S GOING TO BE OPEN TO 300 PEOPLE.

YOU HAD TO GET A TICKET OR REGISTER IN ADVANCE AND THAT YOU HAVE TO PHONE 848-2585 EXT 101 THAT'S 848-2585 EXT 101.

IF YOU NEEDED A TICKET AND THAT WILL BE ON THE 25TH AT 2:00 IN THE AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MORISSETTE, AND JUST A REMINDER THAT THAT TICKET FOR THAT [INAUDIBLE] DINNER IS VIRTUALLY YOU'RE JUST REGISTERING TO ATTEND IT AS A FREE DINNER THAT IS SPONSORED BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

ANY OTHER EVENTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THAT ARE GOING TO BE HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEW YEAR? OKAY, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOVER.

COUNCILLOR MANN, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

WE HAD DISCUSSED AT A PREVIOUS MEETING THE POTENTIAL FOR NOT HAVING A MEETING ON BOXING DAY.

SO AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE SUSPEND THE PROCEDURAL BYLAW IN ORDER TO CANCEL THE DECEMBER 26TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, AND I WOULD MOVE.

THAT AS ONE MOTION. YES.

YEAH. OKAY, SO WE'RE SUSPENDING THE PROCEDURAL BYLAW AND A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO CANCEL THE DECEMBER 26 COUNCIL MEETING.

CAN I GET A SECOND? COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

I DON'T THINK WE REALLY NEED ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT.

ALL IN FAVOR? THAT IS CARRIED.

ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS OR? NO. WELL, WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO WISH EVERYONE A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS, A SAFE AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SEE EVERYBODY BACK IN THE NEW YEAR ON OUR JANUARY MEETINGS.

WE WILL HAVE SOME STANDING COMMITTEE MEETINGS BETWEEN NOW AND CHRISTMAS THAT THE PUBLIC ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND, BUT COUNCIL HOPEFULLY WILL NOT BE HAVING ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE THE NEW YEAR. IF WE DO, THAT MEANS WE'VE HAD AN EMERGENCY AND THAT'S NOT GOOD NEWS THROUGH THE HOLIDAY SEASON.

I DON'T LIKE TO SEE THAT WITH ANYBODY.

WITH THAT, WE HAVE NO ADDENDUMS. WE HAVE INTRODUCTION FOR CONSIDERATION BYLAWS 16.1.

[16. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF BY-LAWS]

THE ZONING BYLAW FOR THE MUNICIPALITY THAT WE SPOKE TO EARLIER IN THE MEETING AND WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING ON EARLIER TODAY.

CAN I GET A MOVER AND A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR BULL AND COUNCILLOR WANNAN.

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[17. CLOSED SESSION (if applicable)]

SECONDER? COUNCILLOR SEIDEL.

ALL IN FAVOR.

WE ARE NOW IN CLOSED SESSION.

WE WILL BE GOING UPSTAIRS AND WE WILL BE BACK ONCE WE HAVE FINISHED THE CLOSED SESSION TO CONTINUE AND FINISH THE MEETING.

I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC HEARD THAT MOTION TO COME OUT OF CLOSED SESSION.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR BULL, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR MORISSETTE.

SORRY, I DIDN'T HAVE MY MIC ON.

WE HAVE NO RESOLUTIONS COMING FORWARD FROM THE CLOSED SESSION, JUST DIRECTION TO STAFF.

SO WITH THAT, CAN I GET A MOVER FOR THE ITEM 18.1 THE BYLAW 22-115 BEING A BYLAW TO CONFIRM THE PROCEEDINGS OF COUNCIL

[18. CONFIRMATORY BY-LAW]

COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

SECONDER? COUNCILLOR WANNAN. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR. THAT IS CARRIED.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? COUNCILLOR MANN. COUNCILLOR MORISSETTE.

ALL IN FAVOR? THAT IS CARRIED. GOOD NIGHT, EVERYBODY.

HAVE A GOOD, SAFE CHRISTMAS AND HOLIDAY SEASON AND WE WILL SEE YOU AT A COUNCIL MEETING IN THE NEW YEAR, UNLESS WE HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING PRIOR.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.