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GOOD EVENING. I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE PUBLIC MEETING FOR THE ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENTS DATED 6:30 P.M.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

JUNE 26TH, 2023.

ROLL CALL. ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT EXCEPT COUNCILLOR SEIDEL.

THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING HELD BY COUNCIL UNDER SECTION 34 OF THE PLANNING ACT.

THE PUBLIC MEETING IS TO CONSIDER A PROPOSED ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT TO THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE.

BYLAW 18-36.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT IS TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIPLE DWELLING SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO R-2M-2 ZONE TO THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIPLE DWELLING SPECIAL EXEMPTION X R-2M-X ZONE IN ORDER TO PERMIT A CONSIGNMENT SHOP FOR CLOTHING AS A HOME BASED BUSINESS ACCESSORY TO THE DWELLING, ALLOWING FOR SALE OF GOODS, WARES AND MERCHANDISE PRODUCED ELSEWHERE TO BE SOLD ON THE PREMISES AND NOTICE OF CIRCULATION AND APPEAL STATEMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PLANNING ACT. THE PUBLIC IS THE PUBLIC MEETING IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE PLANNING ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLANNING ACT, NOTICE MUST BE GIVEN AT LEAST 20 DAYS BEFORE THE PUBLIC MEETING IS HELD.

NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC MEETING WAS PROVIDED VIA MAIL TO RESIDENTS AND LANDOWNERS WITHIN 120M OF THE PROPERTY AND A SIGN WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.

IF YOU WISH TO BE NOTIFIED OF THE DECISION OF THE CITY OF ELLIOTT LAKE ON THE PROPOSED ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT, YOU MUST MAKE A WRITTEN REQUEST TO THE CITY.

IF A PERSON OR PUBLIC BODY WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE AN ABILITY TO APPEAL THE DECISION OF THE CITY TO THE ONTARIO LAND TRIBUNAL, BUT THE PERSON OR PUBLIC BODY DOES NOT MAKE ORAL SUBMISSIONS AT A PUBLIC MEETING OR MAKE WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS TO THE CITY BEFORE THE BYLAW IS PASSED.

THE PERSON OR PUBLIC BODY IS NOT ENTITLED TO APPEAL THE DECISION.

IF A PERSON OR PUBLIC BODY DOES NOT MAKE ORAL SUBMISSIONS AT A PUBLIC MEETING OR MAKE WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS TO THE CITY BEFORE THE BYLAW IS PASSED, THE PERSON OR PUBLIC BODY MAY NOT BE ADDED AS A PARTY TO THE HEARING OF AN APPEAL BEFORE THE ONTARIO LAND TRIBUNAL.

UNLESS, IN THE OPINION OF THE TRIBUNAL, THERE ARE REASONABLE GROUNDS TO DO SO.

SO AT THIS TIME, WE WILL PROCEED WITH THE PUBLIC MEETING BY HAVING THE CITY'S PLANNER FROM JL RICHARDS AND ASSOCIATES LIMITED PROVIDE THEIR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATIONS

[3.1 Application for Zoning By-Law Amendment]

ON THE APPLICATION.

THIS EVENING WE ARE WELCOMING SARAH VEREAULT ON ZOOM.

SHE'S UNMUTED. HELLO, I'M SARAH FROM JL RICHARDS.

I JUST RECEIVED THE REQUEST TO UNMUTE, BUT WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING OF THE MEETING SO FAR, SO JUST CONFIRMING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? SARAH, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? SARAH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

SO MY COLLEAGUE NIKITA IS ALSO ON THE LINE AND SHE WILL BE THE ONE GIVING THEIR REVIEW OF THE REPORT, AND WE COULDN'T HEAR YOU, THOUGH.

JUST I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYONE ON THE LINE, BUT WE COULDN'T HEAR YOU PRIOR TO THIS REQUEST , BUT YOU CAN HEAR ME NOW.

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YES, WE CAN.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO OVER TO YOU, NIKITA.

YEAH. THANKS.

MY NAME IS NIKITA JARIWALA.

I WORK WITH SARAH VEREAULT AT J.L.

RICHARDS AND HAVE PREPARED THIS REPORT FOR TODAY.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT IS TO PERMIT A CONSIGNMENT SHOP FOR CLOTHING AS A HOME BASED BUSINESS ACCESSORY TO THE DWELLING, ALLOWING FOR THE SALE OF GOODS, WARES AND MERCHANDISE PRODUCED ELSEWHERE TO BE SOLD ON THE PREMISES.

SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE EAST END OF THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AND IS SOUTH OF HIGHWAY 108 AND [INAUDIBLE] DRIVE NORTH.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS MUNICIPALLY ADDRESSED AS 72 FROBEL DRIVE AND THE PROPERTY IS OF RECTANGULAR SHAPE WITH AN AREA OF APPROXIMATELY 441M² AND APPROXIMATELY 12M OF FRONTAGE ON FROBEL DRIVE.

CURRENTLY, THE PROPERTY IS OCCUPIED BY A ROWHOUSE DWELLING, DETACHED GARAGE AND SHED AND THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE NORTH, WEST AND SOUTH.

THE LANDS TO THE EAST HAVE SOME RECREATION AND COMMERCIAL USES.

SO THE APPLICANT HAS INITIATED A ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT TO PERMIT A CONSIGNMENT SHOP FOR CLOTHING AS A HOME BASED BUSINESS ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ACCESSORY TO THE EXISTING DWELLING.

THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL PERMIT THE SALE OF GOODS, WARES AND MERCHANDISE PRODUCED ELSEWHERE TO BE SOLD ON THE PREMISES.

IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CONSIGNMENT SHOP WHICH HAS BEEN OPERATING AS LITTLE BRITCHES CONSIGNMENT IS CURRENTLY OPERATING ON THE PROPERTY AND HAS BEEN IN OPERATION FOR THE PAST YEAR WITH NO COMPLAINTS OR CONCERNS RECEIVED.

THE CONSIGNMENT SHOP SELLS SECOND HAND BABY AND CHILDREN'S CLOTHING AND OTHER SMALL MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. THE BUSINESS OPERATES PRIMARILY ONLINE, WITH CUSTOMERS PICKING UP ORDERS OR CONSIGNORS DROPPING OFF THEIR CONSIGNMENTS.

THERE IS NO RETAIL COMPONENT WITHIN THE DWELLING.

THE APPLICANT IS CURRENTLY USING APPROXIMATELY 8% OF THE DWELLING FOR THE BUSINESS, WITH THE INTENTION TO MOVE THE OPERATION INTO THE DETACHED GARAGE.

THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD PERMIT A CONSIGNMENT SHOP ONLY FOR CLOTHING TO LIMIT THE SCALE OF OPERATIONS.

SO NEXT I'LL BE PROVIDING A BRIEF PLANNING ANALYSIS.

SO STARTING WITH A PROVINCIAL POLICY STATEMENT, SECTION 1.1.B STATES THAT HEALTHY, LIVABLE AND SAFE COMMUNITIES ARE SUSTAINED BY ACCOMMODATING EMPLOYMENT USES TO MEET LONG TERM NEEDS.

THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO PERMIT A CONSIGNMENT SHOP AS A HOME BASED BUSINESS SUPPORTS A SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS AND HENCE PROMOTES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY.

ADDITIONALLY, NO MAJOR NOISE OR NUISANCE IS ANTICIPATED DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE PROPOSED HOME BASED BUSINESS.

FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 0 TO 5 DELIVERIES OR PICKUPS ANTICIPATED PER WEEK, WHICH WE UNDERSTAND AS HAVING A MINIMAL IMPACT ON TRAFFIC IN THE AREA.

AS SUCH, THE PROPOSED USE IS GENERALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

BASED ON OUR REVIEW, THIS APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE RELEVANT POLICIES OF THE PROVINCIAL POLICY STATEMENT.

SO NEXT, I'LL BE MOVING ON TO THE OFFICIAL PLAN.

SO THIS PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED RESIDENTIAL.

IN THE OFFICIAL PLAN, SECTION 4.4 OF THE OFFICIAL PLAN CONTAINS POLICIES ON DEVELOPING AND SUSTAINING AN ECONOMICALLY PROSPEROUS COMMUNITY, WHICH INCLUDE TO CONTINUE THE GROWTH AND CULTURAL DIVERSITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AS A MODERN, WELL CONNECTED COMMUNITY WITH BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES.

SECTION 4.7 OF THE OFFICIAL PLAN CONTAINS POLICIES ON HOME BASED BUSINESSES AND NOTES THAT TO PROVIDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, IT IS THE POLICY OF COUNCIL TO PERMIT A HOME BASED BUSINESS.

ADDITIONALLY, IT NOTES THAT IT IS COUNCIL'S POLICY TO ENSURE THAT THE HOME BASED BUSINESS DOES NOT CREATE A NUISANCE FOR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY A LOW RISE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING WHICH IS PERMITTED ON THE SUBJECT LANDS.

THE PROPOSED HOME BASED BUSINESS SUPPORTS LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND GIVEN THE DROP OFF PICK UP NATURE OF THE BUSINESS, IT IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO HAVE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT.

BASED ON OUR REVIEW OF RELEVANT POLICIES, THE PROPOSED ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT CONFORMS TO THE OFFICIAL PLAN.

NEXT IS THE ZONING BYLAW.

SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL MULTIPLE DWELLING SPECIAL EXCEPTION TWO IN THE ZONING BYLAW.

CURRENTLY, THE PROPERTY, AS I'VE MENTIONED, HAS A LOW RISE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING AND THE HOME BASED BUSINESS IS ALSO PERMITTED WITHIN THIS ZONE.

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SO SECTION 5.6 OF THE ZONING BYLAW CONTAINS SOME PROVISIONS FOR HOME BASED BUSINESSES AND IT DETAILS WHICH USES ARE PERMITTED ACCESSORY TO THE RESIDENTIAL USE. AS OF RIGHT, THESE HOME BASED BUSINESSES INCLUDE DOMESTIC ARTS AND PROFESSIONAL USES.

THE PROPOSED CONSIGNMENT SHOP DOES NOT INCLUDE.

I'M SORRY. THE PROPOSED CONSIGNMENT SHOP IS NOT PERMITTED WITHIN THESE AS OF RIGHT PERMITTED HOME BASED BUSINESSES.

AS SUCH, A ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT IS REQUIRED TO PERMIT THE PROPOSED HOME BASED BUSINESS.

THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD ALSO PERMIT THE HOME BASED BUSINESS WOULD PERMIT THE CONSIGNMENT SHOP ONLY FOR CLOTHING TO LIMIT THE SCALE OF OPERATIONS, AND THERE ARE THERE ARE ALSO SOME ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS IN THE ZONING BYLAW FOR HOME BASED BUSINESSES.

WITHOUT GETTING INTO ALL OF THEM, I'M GOING TO LIST SOME OF THE KEY ONES FOR THIS APPLICATION.

SO THE FIRST STATES THAT IF THE BUSINESS IS LOCATED IN THE PRIMARY DWELLING, NO MORE THAN 25% OF THE TOTAL FLOOR AREA OF THE DWELLING SHALL BE USED FOR SUCH PURPOSES. SO IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT APPROXIMATELY 19.9M² OF THE EXISTING DWELLING IS USED FOR THE CONSIGNMENT SHOP, AND THIS IS LESS THAN 25% OF THE TOTAL FLOOR AREA OF THE DWELLING.

THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO PROPOSED TO MOVE THE OPERATION OF THE CONSIGNMENT SHOP TO THE DETACHED GARAGE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 33.6M², WHICH WOULD ALSO RESULT IN LESS THAN 25% OF THE TOTAL FLOOR AREA OF THE DWELLING.

NEXT. IT STATES THAT THERE SHALL BE NO EXTERNAL DISPLAY OR ADVERTISING OTHER THAN A LEGAL SIGN.

INDICATING TO PERSONS OUTSIDE THAT A PART OF THE DWELLING HOUSE OR DWELLING UNIT IS BEING USED FOR A PURPOSE OTHER THAN RESIDENTIAL.

THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THERE IS NO SIGNAGE FOR THE BUSINESS CURRENTLY.

NEXT. THE ZONING BYLAW STATES THAT THERE SHALL BE NO GOODS, WARES OR MERCHANDISE OTHER THAN ARTS AND CRAFTS PRODUCED OR PRODUCTS USED ON THE PREMISES, OFFERED OR EXPOSED FOR SALE OR RENT ON THE PREMISES OR OUTSIDE THE PREMISES.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO SELL PRODUCTS WHICH ARE PRODUCED ELSEWHERE FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THEREFORE THIS EXEMPTION HAS BEEN REQUESTED.

HOWEVER, THE BUSINESS IS CURRENTLY OPERATING.

IT DOES NOT REQUIRE EXPOSURE OF THE OFFERED GOODS.

THE PROPOSED CONSIGNMENT SHOP IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO FUNCTION LIKE A TYPICAL RETAIL FACILITY, WHICH OFFERS GOODS ON DISPLAY FOR CUSTOMERS TO SHOP.

THE DROP OFF AND PICK UP OF CONSIGNMENT ITEMS ARE FACILITATED THROUGH THE APPLICANT'S ONLINE STORE, AS WAS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, AND APPROXIMATELY 0 TO 5 DROP OFFS AND PICKUPS ARE ANTICIPATED PER WEEK, FROM WHICH NO ADDITIONAL NUISANCE IS ANTICIPATED.

NEXT. THE HOME BASED BUSINESS SHALL BE CLEARLY SECONDARY TO THE MAIN RESIDENTIAL USE AND SHALL NOT CHANGE THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE DWELLING HOUSE OR DWELLING UNIT. THE APPLICANT HAS CONFIRMED THAT LESS THAN 25% OF THE CURRENT DWELLING IS USED FOR THE HOME BASED BUSINESS.

NO CHANGES TO THE EXISTING DWELLING ARE PROPOSED THROUGH THIS APPLICATION.

AS SUCH, THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE DWELLING IS MAINTAINED.

NEXT, THE ZONING BYLAW STATES THAT PARKING REQUIREMENTS SHALL BE CALCULATED AS PER SECTION SIX OF THE ZONING BYLAW.

SECTION SIX STATES THAT ANY BUSINESS OR COMMERCIAL USE ONE PARKING SPACE PER 27.8M² OF AREA IS REQUIRED. APPROXIMATELY 19.9M² OF THE EXISTING DWELLING IS USED FOR THE CONSIGNMENT BUSINESS AND THEREFORE ONE PARKING SPACE IS REQUIRED FOR THIS BUSINESS.

ONE PARKING SPACE IS ALSO REQUIRED FOR THE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING.

THE APPLICANT HAS CONFIRMED THAT TWO PARKING SPACES ARE AVAILABLE ON THE PROPERTY AND THEREFORE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DWELLING AND THE HOME BASED BUSINESS COMBINED ARE SATISFIED. LASTLY, NO ADDITIONAL SPECIAL PROVISIONS ARE PROPOSED THROUGH THIS APPLICATION AS NO CHANGES ARE PROPOSED TO THE STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY AND THE EXISTING DWELLING COMPLIES WITH THE APPLICABLE ZONING PROVISIONS OF ITS CURRENT ZONE.

THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS THEREFORE CONSIDERED REASONABLE AND GENERALLY MAINTAINS THE INTENT OF THE ZONING BYLAW AND CAN BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.

IN TANDEM WITH THIS REPORT AND FOLLOWING THE CIRCULATION OF THE PUBLIC NOTICE.

SEVERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE FIVE WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SEVERAL PHONE INQUIRIES THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED, ONE OF WHICH ALSO INCLUDED A PETITION.

THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED THROUGH THESE COMMENTS WERE RELATED TO PARKING TRAFFIC AND RETENTION OF THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA AND THE SCALE OF THE

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OPERATION. THE PROPOSED CONSIGNMENT SHOP FOR CLOTHING AS A HOME BASED BUSINESS WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE ZONING PROVISIONS FOR HOME BASED BUSINESSES, SOME OF WHICH I'VE LISTED, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD EFFECTIVELY LIMIT ITS SCALE AND IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

TO CONCLUDE THIS APPLICATION FOR A ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVINCIAL POLICY STATEMENT AND CONFORMS TO THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE OFFICIAL PLAN.

WITH THIS IN MIND, WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, NIKITA.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILLOR MORRISSETTE.

IF WE PROCEED WITH THIS AND CHANGE THE ZONING AND THE APPLICANT LEAVES THAT UNIT LATER ON, DOES THAT STAY WITH THE HOUSE OR THE UNIT ITSELF AT 72 FROBEL.

THE ZONING STAYS LIKE THAT OR DOES IT REVERT BACK TO THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING ? SO I CAN JUMP IN AND ANSWER THAT ONE.

THE ZONING TYPICALLY STAYS WITH THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

THERE I GUESS WOULD POTENTIALLY BE THE OPPORTUNITY WE COULD ATTACH ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS TO THE RECOMMENDED ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT THAT COULD PUT SOME SORT OF EITHER TIME FRAME OR CONNECT IT TO THE OPERATOR, BUT TYPICALLY THE ZONING STAYS WITH THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

SO THE MAIN PART OF THESE PURCHASES ARE DONE ALL ONLINE SO PEOPLE WON'T BE COMING TO THE GARAGE TO BROWSE OR WILL BE THE BROWSING GOING ON.

DO YOU WANT ME TO. I CAN TAKE THAT.

SO FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING AND FROM THE WAY THE ZONING BYLAW IS CURRENTLY STRUCTURED, NONE OF THE PRODUCTS AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE CAN BE DISPLAYED.

SO THE GARAGE WILL NOT BE OPERATING SUCH THAT PEOPLE COULD COME AND BROWSE.

THE IDEA IS FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING, THE IDEA IS THAT POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS WOULD BE VIEWING THE ITEMS ONLINE AND THAT THEY WOULD JUST BE DOING THE PICK UPS AND DROP OFFS IN PERSON.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

HOW COMMON IS THIS KIND OF REZONING IN OTHER COMMUNITIES IN ONTARIO? I CAN JUMP IN THERE. I THINK THAT'S REALLY ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES, THROUGH THEIR ZONING BYLAWS, HAVE DIFFERING REGULATIONS OF HOME BASED BUSINESSES.

SOME ARE FAIRLY WIDE OPEN IN TERMS OF THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED A HOME BASED BUSINESS.

SOME ARE FAR MORE RESTRICTIVE IN TERMS OF THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES.

WE HAVE SEEN A COUPLE HERE IN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, SO THIS IS THE SECOND ONE.

COUNCIL MAY REMEMBER LAST YEAR IT MAY HAVE BEEN WITH THE PREVIOUS SESSION OF COUNCIL, BUT WE DID DO A ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT AS WELL FOR A SIMILAR TYPE OF OPERATION IN TERMS OF A REFILLERY WHERE GOODS WERE SOLD ON THE PREMISES THAT WEREN'T ACTUALLY MANUFACTURED OR MADE ON THE PREMISES.

SO WE ARE SEEING TOO, BUT I WOULDN'T SAY THAT MEANS THAT IT'S A COMMON THING.

CERTAINLY EACH APPLICATION IS REVIEWED UPON ITS OWN MERITS, SO WE REVIEW IT BASED ON THE LAND THAT'S BEING PROPOSED FOR THE USE, THE TYPE OF USE THAT'S GOING ON, THE OPERATIONS ON THE PROPERTY, REVIEW IT AS NIKITA WENT THROUGH IN TERMS OF THE PROVINCIAL POLICY STATEMENT, THE CITY'S OFFICIAL PLAN, AS WELL AS THE ZONING PROVISIONS TO COME TO OUR RECOMMENDATION, AND EACH APPLICATION WOULD THEN BE REVIEWED ON THAT CASE BY CASE BASIS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU, SARAH AND NIKITA.

JUST SO WE HAVE RECEIVED WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS ON THE APPLICATION FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO

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COUNCIL, BUT WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPLICANT.

SO, ROBIN HILTS IS THE APPLICANT AND SHE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND MAKE A PRESENTATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY PREPARED A STATEMENT, BUT [INAUDIBLE] PLEASE COME UP TO THE MIC.

YEAH. THANKS.

OKAY. I HAVEN'T PREPARED A PRESENTATION AT ALL.

I'M VERY AWFUL IN SOCIAL SITUATIONS, BUT I'M PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY HAS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

[INAUDIBLE] ONLY THOSE THAT HAVE APPLIED TO COME TO THE PODIUM IN TURN? OKAY, THAT'S FINE. OKAY, COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MS. HILTS. SO EXACTLY HOW LONG HAS HAVE YOU HAD YOUR THE BUSINESS UP AND RUNNING, MS. HILTS I LAUNCHED MY WEBSITE ON OCTOBER 15TH IN 2022.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

COUNCILLOR BULL.

THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, I GUESS.

HAVE THERE BEEN ANY OTHER COMPLAINTS OR CONCERNS RAISED IN THE LAST YEAR SINCE--NOT THAT I KNOW OF.

OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS HILTS.

SO NOW WE WILL HEAR FROM THOSE WHO HAVE REQUESTED TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION.

[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

MAKE SURE THE MIC IS ON AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN YOU CAN PROVIDE YOUR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.

PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR ENTIRE STATEMENT AS THE PUBLIC MEETING IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION AND AT THE DISCRETION. THERE'S TWO MINUTES PROVIDED FOR EACH STATEMENT.

FIRST FROM THE LIST IS MICHAEL CAMPBELL VIA ZOOM.

YOU'LL HAVE TO UNMUTE HIM. MR. CAMPBELL. CAN YOU UNMUTE.

MR. CAMPBELL, CAN YOU UNMUTE? IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, CAN I GO LATER? YOU'RE THE FIRST ON THE LIST.

[INAUDIBLE].

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR SOME OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING.

OKAY. NEXT WOULD BE CAN YOU MUTE YOUR MIC, PLEASE? THANKS. PAULA [INAUDIBLE].

PLEASE COME UP TO THE MIC.

I'M SORRY. I'M NOT PAULA.

I'M HER SISTER.

WE LIVE TOGETHER.

I'M COMING IN LIEU OF WE SIGNED A LETTER TOGETHER.

OKAY, I'M ASSUMING.

SO, PLEASE, FOR THE RECORD, YOUR NAME.

MY NAME IS JOYCE MELBOURNE, AND YOUR ADDRESS? 76 FROBEL DRIVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU GOT IT. OKAY.

PLEASE GO AHEAD. OKAY.

I DID NOT BRING A COPY OF THE LETTER THAT I SENT TO YOU, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT WE KNEW A WHOLE LOT MORE ONCE WE GOT HERE ABOUT WHAT THIS BUSINESS WAS ABOUT, BUT IT TURNS OUT THAT THE BUSINESS HAS ALREADY BEEN GOING FOR A YEAR AND IT'S ONLINE AND THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS YET, AND THAT PROBABLY MAKES SENSE, BUT WE'VE GOT A SITUATION HERE WHERE SHE'S PLANNING ON MOVING INTO A BIGGER AREA.

PEOPLE VIEWING HER MERCHANDISE ONLINE.

IT WAS NOT SAID YES OR NO WHETHER THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN OR WHETHER PEOPLE WERE GOING TO BE COMING.

THIS IS A VERY CROWDED AREA.

IT'S ATTACHED HOUSING, AND AT THE END OF EVERY SIXTH UNIT, THERE IS A BREAK, AN END UNIT , AND MISS HILTS IS IN ONE OF THOSE END UNITS WITH AN EXTRA GARAGE.

IT IS A CROWDED AREA.

I FIND THAT EVEN WHEN I HAVE VISITORS COMING IN FROM OUT OF TOWN TO FIND THE EXTRA PARKING SPACE IS IS DIFFICULT AND DURING THE WINTER IT IS VERY DIFFICULT.

WE GET LOTS OF SNOW AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO PUT IT.

BY THE TIME FEBRUARY COMES, THIS IS ABSOLUTE CHAOS.

WE DON'T NEED ANY EXTRA TRAFFIC WHATSOEVER, AND IT'S NOT CLEAR FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD SO FAR WHETHER

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THERE ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE COMING TO THIS PLACE.

OBVIOUSLY, SHE'S WANTING TO EXPAND, SO THAT'S GOING TO MEAN MORE TRAFFIC, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT'S PERMITTED ACCORDING TO THE ZONING IS OPEN TO QUESTION.

AS FAR AS THE ZONING PERMIT IS CONCERNED, THAT'S ANOTHER LITTLE PROBLEM.

IF THIS ZONING GOES WITH THE HOUSE, AND LET'S SAY SHE HAS HER CONSIGNMENT SHOP.

WHAT HAPPENS IF SHE SELLS? WHAT DO WE GET THERE? IT'S A PLACE THAT'S ZONED FOR BUSINESS.

SO THAT COULD BE A FURTHER PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD.

DON'T KNOW.

ALSO, TOO, IT DOESN'T SEEM AS IF IT'S RESTRICTED TO NECESSARILY CLOTHING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WILL START TO BE INCLUDED, AND WILL WE FIND OUT LATER ON THAT THERE'S EXCESS MERCHANDISE BEING LEFT OUTSIDE THE BUILDING SO THAT IT BECOMES UNSIGHTLY AFTER A WHILE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING DOWN DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE SOME OF THESE THE DETAILS HERE ARE FRANKLY VAGUE AND WE'VE GOT A CROWDED NEIGHBORHOOD.

AS I'VE ALREADY SAID, I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THAT ENOUGH, AND TO CRAM INTO WHAT LITTLE SPACE WE'VE GOT AT THE END OF A UNIT AND TO CRAM IN A BUSINESS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

SHE'S GONE ONLINE NOW THAT COULD BE EASILY DONE.

IF IT'S WITHIN THE HOUSE AND YOU'RE SHIPPING STUFF OUT.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT BUT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE, I THINK IS DEFINITELY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE QUITE A BIT OF A PROBLEM.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO [INAUDIBLE].

OKAY. THE NEXT PRESENTER IS ROMEO BERNIER.

[INAUDIBLE] GIVE OR TAKE.

WE'VE GOT, LIKE, FIVE MINUTES TO GO.

IT DOESN'T MATTER. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

ROMEO BERNIER AND ADDRESS.

80 FROBEL, A FEW DOORS UP FROM THIS SITUATION, AND IF THE BUSINESS HAS BEEN OPERATING FOR ONE YEAR, THIS IS WHAT'S TOTALLY SURPRISED ME.

WE KNOW THERE WAS STUFF GOING ON IN THE GARAGE [INAUDIBLE] AND HOUSE, LOTS OF STUFF IN THERE, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A BUSINESS STARTED.

WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ANYTHING BECAUSE NOBODY SAID A WORD.

SO ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE'RE FACED WITH A SITUATION WHERE THIS HAD BEEN GOING ON FOR A YEAR.

THE TRAFFIC ON FROBEL HAS INCREASED SO MUCH IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

IT STARTED WHEN THEY BLOCKED OFF EAST AND SOUTH TO DO SOME THROUGH WORK AT THE BOTTOM OF 108 AND THE TRAFFIC WAS REROUTED TO FROBEL.

IT HASN'T STOPPED.

WE HAVE A PARKING ISSUE NOW.

WE HAVE PEOPLE COME TO VISIT OR THEY WANT TO MAKE A DELIVERY.

THE STREET IS CROWDED AND PEOPLE ARE DRIVING FAST, AND WE ALSO HAVE THESE KIDS ON THESE LITTLE BOARDS ON THE SIDEWALKS GOING ABOUT 15, 20, 30 KIDS AN HOUR, AND THEY'RE ZIPPING BY BACK AND FORTH.

WE HAVE LOTS OF KIDS ON THE ROAD NOW, AND I LIKE ALL I'M SEEING IS A BIG DISASTER COMING UP.

WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL SOMEONE GETS KILLED, HAVE A SERIOUS ACCIDENT TILL WE DRAW A LINE? WELL, I'M SORRY, BUT I THINK THIS WOULD BE A HUGE MISTAKE IF THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN ONLINE BUSINESS, AND LIKE THE LADY SAID, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T NOTICED ANYTHING.

OF COURSE WE HAVEN'T NOTICED.

WE NOTICED THE VEHICLE GOING IN THERE, BUT NOBODY HAS SAID THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOT SAID A WORD TO US AT ALL.

IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING TO HAVE A NEIGHBOR WHO KEPT THIS SECRET FOR A WHOLE YEAR AND DECIDES NOW WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE.

ONCE PEOPLE KNOW THEY CAN GO THERE AND SEE PRODUCT, ARE THEY GOING TO STAY AWAY? I DON'T THINK SO, AND IN THE WINTER TIME, WE CAN'T EVEN LEAVE OUR DRIVEWAY WITHOUT CAUTIOUSLY GOING OUT TO THE ROAD BECAUSE OF THE TOWNHOUSES.

WE GOT SNOW BAGS THIS HIGH AND THE FRONTAGE IS ABOUT 20FT, SO THERE'S NO ROOM TO EVEN PARK ON THE ROAD.

IT'S CRAZY AND THE SPEED THE VEHICLES ARE TRAVELING.

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IT'S SCARY AT TIMES.

WE HAVE ATVS FLYING UP THE ROAD.

WE HAVE DIRT BIKES FLYING UP THE ROAD LIKE IT'S CHANGED COMPLETELY, AND I THINK THIS IS INSANE IDEA.

I'M SORRY, BUT I'M I HAVE TO BE TOTALLY AGAINST IT BECAUSE WHAT STARTS OFF AS SOMETHING CAN GRADUALLY CHANGE AND WHO'S GOING TO COMPLAIN? IT TAKES YEARS TO GET THAT CHANGED AGAIN.

SO ALL I CAN SAY IS, I'M SORRY, BUT THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. BERNIER.

NOW WE'LL GO BACK TO MR. CAMPBELL, PLEASE.

OH, MY NAME IS MICHAEL CAMPBELL.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT ON FROBEL DRIVE HERE FOR SIX YEARS NOW.

COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS? I PERSONALLY AM NOT FOR THIS AT ALL.

I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

TRAFFIC IS HEAVY ENOUGH ON THE STREET.

CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? MY ADDRESS, 57 FROBEL.

THANK YOU. GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY HEAVY ENOUGH ON THE STREET AND I SEE MORE CARS COMING.

THEY'RE GOING TO WANT IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE WANTING TO PICK STUFF UP, THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR PLACES TO PARK.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALSO CONSUMERS WHO ARE GOING TO BE SAYING, WHAT'S THIS PLACE ABOUT? LET'S GO SEE AND MY CONCERN IS YOU'RE GOING TO TURN THE STREET INTO ANOTHER KENSINGTON MARKET LIKE THERE IS IN TORONTO AND NOT GOOD FOR A RESIDENTIAL AREA AT ALL. OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. CAMPBELL.

OKAY.

I AM AGAINST IT. YEAH. THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO I'VE JUST BEEN INFORMED IF THERE IS ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TO SPEAK, YOU KNOW, WE DO NOT, MR. MARTIN, BUT YOU CAN COME UP.

YOU DON'T HAVE MY NAME? NO, SIR.

ON THE PAPER. I BROUGHT IT IN, I DELIVERED IT, AND I GOT THE GIRL TO SIGN IT ON THE FRONT.

I LIVE AT 68 [INAUDIBLE].

IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD FROM THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO OPEN THIS, AND THIS IS MY MARTIN GARNETT.

GARNETT MARTIN.

GARNETT MARTIN? YEP 68 [INAUDIBLE]. THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD. OKAY.

NOW, I'M THE ONE THAT GOT THE PETITION THERE.

I BROUGHT THAT IN. YOU GOT A COPY OF THAT? YOU SHOULD HAVE. IT WAS DELIVERED IN TO THE CLERKS IN OUR PACKAGES.

YEAH, BUT IT'S NOT NOW I'VE HAD, WHAT, 60 SOME NAMES ON THERE.

SOME OF THEM I WENT BY, TALKED TO THE PEOPLE.

A LOT OF THEM COME OVER TO MY PLACE AND TALKED ABOUT IT.

THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT IS REZONING THE AREA BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENED WITH JUST RENTALS AROUND THERE. SO REZONING AN AREA, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE ON COUNCIL WOULD LIKE THEM TO REZONE THEIR AREA WHERE THEY'RE LIVING.

THAT'S ONE OF THE STATEMENTS, AND THEN THE OTHER PART, A LOT OF PEOPLE BROUGHT UP A LOT OF PEOPLE.

I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

WHAT? YOU DIDN'T HEAR THAT? NO, MR. CAMPBELL.

TURN OFF YOUR MIC. MR. CAMPBELL, TURN OFF YOUR.

YOU MEAN I SAID ALL THIS FOR NOTHING? [CHUCKLING] NO. WE COULD HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.

WE HEARD. I CAN TURN OFF THE MICROPHONE.

OKAY. ANYWAY, A LOT OF THE OTHER STUFF, TOO, THAT THE PARKING WAS, BUT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP, AND THE BIGGEST QUESTION A LOT OF PEOPLE COME IN TO TALK TO ME ABOUT, AND I'VE HAD LOTS OF PEOPLE I'VE BEEN ON THAT CORNER FOR 29 YEARS, SO I KNOW EVERYBODY.

I WALK EVERY DAY DOWN THAT SECTION.

EVERYBODY'S TALKED TO ME, AND THE BIGGEST THING THERE IS REZONING THE AREA, PLUS THE PARKING, AND THEN.

WHY NOT BRING THIS BUSINESS? WHY DON'T THEY HAVE IT IN TOWN? THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN PLACES IN TOWN.

THAT HAVE PLACES FOR RENT THAT ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR BUSINESSES TO COME IN THERE.

SO WHY CAN'T THEY BRING THEIR BUSINESS IN A BUSINESS AREA, REGULAR HOURS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE? BECAUSE THERE THERE'S NOTHING SAID ABOUT REGULAR HOURS, AND THERE'S 60 PEOPLE JUST AROUND THE AREA OF FROBEL AND [INAUDIBLE] THAT REALLY DON'T GO FOR THIS PLAN AT ALL.

AT ALL, AND YOUR NAMES? YOU HAVE THE NAMES THERE, THE SIGNATURES AND THE ADDRESSES.

SO I THINK IT'S A VERY POOR SYSTEM TO START REZONING IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT RETIREMENT LIVING HAS BEEN PUSHING RETIREMENT COMMUNITY.

THAT'S WHY PEOPLE COME BACK HERE.

THAT'S WHY I COME BACK.

I THOUGHT I'D RETIRE UP HERE, WORK MY LAST 17 YEARS HERE.

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RETIRE HERE.

QUIET. DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THAT QUIET, AND I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE IF THEY START REZONING AREAS AND MAKE THEM BUSINESS AREAS WHERE IT'S ALL SENIORS. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MARTIN.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO MISS VEREAULT, SARAH FROM JL RICHARDS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS.

SARAH? SURE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

SO I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND BRIEFLY TO A FEW OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED.

IT SOUNDS LIKE GENERALLY THE NATURE OF THE COMMENTS RELATES TO NOT WANTING A BUSINESS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, AS WELL AS COMMENTS REGARDING PARKING AND TRAFFIC AND CLARITY IN TERMS OF THE OPERATIONS OF THE BUSINESS. SO JUST VERY BRIEFLY, BASED ON WHAT WE UNDERSTAND THE OPERATIONS OF THE BUSINESS TO BE THAT IT IS ONLINE AND THAT THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED TO ESSENTIALLY MOVE WHERE THE GOODS ARE STORED INTO THE GARAGE, BUT THAT THIS WOULD STILL OPERATE AS AN ONLINE BUSINESS FOR PICKUP AND DROP OFF.

ONLY PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE COMING INTO THE DWELLING OR THE GARAGE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE GOODS, TO KIND OF SHOP IN A GENERAL WAY THAT YOU WOULD SHOP IN A RETAIL FACILITY.

WE CAN LOOK, IF COUNCIL IS LOOKING AT APPROVING THIS AMENDMENT, WE COULD LOOK AT TIGHTENING UP THE WORDING IN THE AMENDMENT TO ACTUALLY SPECIFY THAT.

SO TO SPECIFICALLY LIMIT IT TO AN ONLINE STORE WITH VISITATION TO THE SITE FOR PICKUP AND DROP OFF ONLY IF THAT WOULD PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORT TO THE RESIDENTS AS WELL AS TO COUNCIL TO AGAIN, FURTHER RESTRICT THE ACTIVITY AND THE SCALE AND SCOPE OF THE BUSINESS ON THE PROPERTY.

I WILL MENTION AS WELL, AND SO THAT LEVEL OF RESTRICTION WOULD THEN ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES IN TERMS OF PARKING.

IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THE BUSINESS HAS BEEN IN OPERATION FOR ABOUT A YEAR.

I BELIEVE IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT OF THE APPLICANT IN TERMS OF NOT KNOWING THAT THIS WAS NOT A PERMITTED HOME BASED BUSINESS.

THERE ARE SEVERAL TYPES OF HOME BASED BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY PERMITTED IN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE ZONING BYLAW, BUT THE RETAIL OF THE SELLING OF GOODS THAT AREN'T MADE ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND A VERY SPECIFIC SET OF GOODS THERE, THAT'S NOT PERMITTED AS A HOME BASED BUSINESS, AND SO WHEN THE APPLICANT WAS INFORMED OF THAT, SHE WAS MADE AWARE OF HER OPTIONS IN TERMS OF RELOCATING OR FINDING A DIFFERENT SITE OR PURSUING A ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT.

SO SHE IS TAKING THE STEPS TO RECTIFY THAT SITUATION, AND I WOULD NOTE AS WELL, JUST IN TERMS OF HOME BASED BUSINESSES IN GENERAL, THAT CERTAINLY THERE ARE COMMERCIAL LOCATIONS WITHIN THE CITY AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE BIGGER COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES LOCATE IN THE FULLNESS OF TIME IN THOSE COMMERCIAL AREAS OF THE CITY, HAVING HOME BASED BUSINESSES AND HAVING A RANGE OF TYPES OF HOME BASED BUSINESSES IS A GOOD WAY FOR PEOPLE TO MAYBE START SOMETHING OUT TO TEST THE WATERS A BIT AND THEN I THINK IT IS THE INTENTION GENERALLY FOR THAT BUSINESS TO RELOCATE TO A COMMERCIAL SPACE.

IF IT DOES GET TO THAT SCALE WHERE IT IS OPERATING AT A BIGGER, AT A BIGGER SCALE AND THERE'S MORE CUSTOMERS INVOLVED.

SO I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IN THEIR RESPONSE DID MENTION THAT IN THEIR LETTER.

SO AND FINALLY, I JUST MIGHT WANT TO MENTION, I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE THAT WERE MADE.

SHE MIGHT BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.

OKAY. THANK YOU, SARAH.

SO WE'LL START WITH MISS HILTS.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME BACK UP AND RESPOND? ABOUT THE BYLAW THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION I RECEIVED IN THE MAIL.

LIKE I SAID IN MY LETTER, IT WAS I OVERLOOKED THAT IN MY RESEARCH.

I APOLOGIZED.

I HAD NO IDEA IT WAS A THING, AND WHEN I GOT THE LETTER, OBVIOUSLY I WAS IN TOUCH WITH NATALIE RIGHT AWAY.

I'M A SINGLE STAY AT HOME MOM AND A CAREGIVER FOR MY DAD.

A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC AT MY HOME IS MY DAD'S.

HE'S END STAGE LUNG DISEASE.

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SO FOR ME TO BE WORKING A REGULAR 9 TO 5 JOB, IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME TO BE AWAY.

I'M SORRY THAT MY NEIGHBORS ARE UPSET ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, BUT I DO NOT FEEL LIKE MY BUSINESS REALLY CREATES A WHOLE LOT OF TRAFFIC.

IF I GET ORDERS.

I THAT I CAN DELIVER IN TOWN, I WILL GO DO IT WHEN I'M TAKING MY SON TO DAYCARE.

IT'S NOT AN EXTRA TRIP OUT.

I DON'T WANT TO BE IN AND OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY ALL DAY.

I DO IT WHEN I'M ALREADY ON MY WAY OUT TO DO ERRANDS OR WHATEVER.

LIKE I SAID, I HAVE ABOUT 0 TO 5 PEOPLE COME TO MY HOUSE THAT IS RELATED TO MY BUSINESS, WHETHER IT'S A DROP OFF OR A CONSIGNMENT OR SOMEBODY PICKING UP AN ORDER, I WOULD SAY FIVE IS A GOOD WEEK.

I'M A VERY SMALL BUSINESS.

LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN OPERATING SINCE OCTOBER.

NOBODY HAS COMPLAINED.

I WASN'T KEEPING MY BUSINESS A SECRET.

I WAS ADVERTISING MY BUSINESS.

I HANDED OUT FLYERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE AND THERE.

NOT A WHOLE LOT, BUT IT WAS ABSOLUTELY NOT A BUSINESS.

OTHERWISE I'D BE MAKING OR A SECRET OR I'D BE MAKING NO MONEY.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT ELLIOT LAKE IS VERY MUCH A RETIREMENT TOWN, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE HERE TOO, AND HOW MANY SCHOOLS DO WE HAVE WITH CHILDREN THAT ATTEND THEM? I'M TRYING TO OFFER SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE.

THERE'S A LOT OF LOW INCOME PEOPLE HERE THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO DRIVE TO SUDBURY TO GO SHOPPING FOR CLOTHING AND I HAVE A LOT OF REPEAT CONSIGNMENTS.

I HAVE A LOT OF REPEAT CUSTOMERS ALREADY, AND I HAVE A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPORTING MY BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY KNOW WE NEED THIS.

I HAVE BIG GOALS FOR MY BUSINESS.

I WANT TO VERY MUCH OPEN A RETAIL SETTING, BUT RIGHT NOW I'M STILL IN THE TESTING THE WATERS STAGE OF MY BUSINESS AND I DON'T HAVE THE INCOME TO PAY FOR A RETAIL STORE AT THE MOMENT.

I DO WANT TO BRING IN OTHER PRODUCTS.

NOTHING HUGE.

I CARRY TEETHERS, PACIFIER CLIPS, SWADDLES LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT, LIKE NURSING COVERS, CAR SEAT COVERS. THAT'S KIND OF THE SORT OF THING I'M GOING FOR.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE ANSWERED EVERYBODY'S QUESTIONS, BUT I DID WRITE A LETTER THAT I REPLIED TO ALL THE COMMENTS I RECEIVED ABOUT THE ISSUES WITH THE TRAFFIC AND THE PARKING.

I DO NOT WANT PEOPLE COMING IN MY GARAGE TO SHOP.

THIS IS MY HOME WHERE I HAVE A FAMILY AND MY KID.

I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

I DO NOT WANT THAT AT ALL, AND THERE WILL NEVER, EVER BE MORE THAN ONE PERSON COMING TO MY HOME AT ONE TIME.

SO THERE'S NO REASON FOR ANYBODY TO BE PARKED ON THE STREET.

I DO NOT THINK THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT MY NEIGHBORS AT ALL.

I FEEL LIKE I'VE COVERED EVERYTHING I HAVE TO SAY IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

I CAN ANSWER THEM.

OKAY. COUNCILLOR MANN.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. JUST A QUESTION OF THE PROPONENT AND MISS VEREAULT, WILL YOU BOTH BE ATTENDING THE OPEN PART OF OUR COUNCIL MEETING? TYPICALLY, COUNCIL DOES NOT ASK QUESTIONS DURING THE PUBLIC.

WE LISTEN, SO MY QUESTIONS WILL COME UNDER 7.2, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY. YEP.

OKAY. PERFECT.

THANK YOU. SO WE ARE RUNNING A BIT LATE.

MR. MARTIN, ONE QUICK QUESTION.

OKAY. WELL, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER'S COMMENTING, THEY DON'T THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE AREA.

SO, BUT I HAVE 60 SOME PEOPLE THAT SIGNED THE PETITION, AND BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NICE PEOPLE.

THEY MOVED IN; HAPPY THEY MOVED IN.

I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING GOING ON.

I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD WHEN THEY MOVED IN CLOSETS FULL OF CLOTHES; PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH CLOTHES ANYWAY.

THERE'S 60 PEOPLE HERE THAT SIGNED THE PETITION.

THAT'S ONLY A LITTLE GROUP IN THE AREA.

THEY DON'T WANT REZONING.

IT'S A RETIREMENT LIVING AND THAT'S HOW THEY WANT TO KEEP IT.

I FEEL BAD FOR SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO COME IN, BUT THEY KNEW THAT WHEN THEY MOVED IN THERE.

IT'S A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

IT'S A SENIORS AREA.

SO AND I'VE HAD LOTS OF COMMENTS JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY WHEN I'M OUTSIDE.

SO THAT'S ABOUT ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MARTIN. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THE PUBLIC MEETING PROCESS IS NOW COMPLETE.

COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER THE COMMENTS RECEIVED ON THE PROPOSED BYLAW AMENDMENT.

THIS PUBLIC MEETING IS NOW CLOSED AT THE HOUR OF 7:14 P.M..

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.