Dec 11, 2023 City Council

>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

ARE THERE ANY DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTERESTS? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE? THERE ARE NONE.

ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES MAY HAVE EMOTION THAT THE FOLLOWING MINUTES TO BE ADOPTED,

[4. ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES]

A MOVER, PLEASE. COUNSELOR MANN, SECONDED BY COUNSELOR FLINTOFF.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? LET'S VOTE TO ACCEPT ALL IN FAVOR, NONE ON OPPOSE, THAT IS CARRIED.

[5. PUBLIC INPUT SESSION]

WELCOME, MR. THOMAS.

>> THANK YOU. ACTING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I USUALLY SAY GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

BUT TONIGHT, GOOD TO SEE YOU AT THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR.

I'LL BE BRIEF WITH ITEM 6.1.

GREAT EXERCISE IN THE PROCESS OF IT IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE AND POST ONLINE.

THERE WAS AN ERROR IN MY STATEMENTS IN SECTION 4.

I WOULD JUST REQUEST THAT THAT BE REDACTED, CORRECTED, AND ACKNOWLEDGED.

WITH REGARDS TO ITEM 8.1 AND 8.2.

FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE ENTIRETY OF COUNCIL AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE IT WAS DISCUSSED, I MENTIONED THAT I THOUGHT WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE PEOPLE MORE THAN STUFF.

IN THAT VEIN, SINCE THE COMMITTEE MEETING.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO IMPOSE UPON OR IMPRESS UPON THE COUNCIL IS WE'RE DISCUSSING A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT FOR SIX MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR, TWO OF THE THREE ITEMS PROPOSED FOR THE USE OF THAT PROPERTY WILL NOT BE USED.

THEY WON'T BE USED FOR TOURISM IN THE WINTERTIME.

IT WON'T BE USED AS A WELCOME CENTER IN THE WINTERTIME.

THE LIKELIHOOD OF PEOPLE COMING TO A MUSEUM AND THE WINTERTIME, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATISTICS ARE FOR THE PEARSON CENTER, BUT I IMAGINE IT WAS MUCH LESS THAN THE WINTER THAN IT IS IN THE SUMMER.

WHAT'S BEFORE COUNCIL IS REALLY SEVERAL CHOICES THAT AMOUNT TO HOW ARE WE GOING TO BEST UTILIZE THIS FACILITY FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY.

MY PREFERENCE.

I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A GREAT MUSEUM.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A GREAT WELCOME CENTER.

MY IMPRESSION ON THAT AS THOSE SHOULD BE ON A HIGHWAY OR ON A MAIN THOROUGHFARE WHERE THE OLD CHURCH IS LOCATED, ITS CLOSE PROXIMITY TO CITY HALL.

IT'S A CONVENIENT BUILDING TO DO THOSE THINGS.

BUT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS GOING TO CANNIBALIZE TWO-THIRDS OF THAT FACILITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF REALLY ONE.

THE WELCOME CENTER, LIKE I SAID, SEASONAL ITEM.

THE MUSEUM, YES, WE NEED STORAGE.

WE NEED ALL THAT STUFF.

BUT IF IT'S GOING TO BE A CENTER FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT WILL BE USED 12 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR.

WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON PEOPLE-CENTRIC PURPOSES AS OPPOSED TO STUFF.

THAT WAS THE LONG VERSION IF WHAT I SAID IT, COMMITTEE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS 8.2?

>> I'M SORRY, ACTING MAYOR, I CONSOLIDATED BOTH INTO ONE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. THOMAS.

PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING.

[6. PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS]

YOU WANT TO DO THE PRESENTATION FIRST? MR. DHABI, GO AHEAD.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND STAFF.

WELL, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OUR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR QUITE A WHILE, BUT I THINK WE'RE GETTING REALLY CLOSE TO THE END OF THAT THAT SYSTEM.

I WANTED TO BRING TO YOU TONIGHT SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC INPUT MEETING THAT WAS HELD HERE.

THE MEETING WAS I THOUGHT VERY WELL DONE.

FROM THE POINT OF VIEW, THE PUBLIC THAT SPOKE.

WE HAD SOME LAUGHTER IN THE ROOM.

WE HAD SOME INTERESTING THINGS GOING ON.

I'M REALLY PLEASED TO SEE THAT.

YOU ARE DEALING WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN TONIGHT AND WE HAVE A GOOD INPUT RECEIVED.

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ANYWAY, I WOULD BE WILLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I AM VERY PLEASED TO RECOMMEND THE STRATEGIC PLAN. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. MR. DHABI, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNSELOR FLINTOFF?

>> NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION TO YOU, MR. DHABI JUST I WATCHED MOST OF IT AND IT SEEMED THAT THEY WERE SOME OF THE PUBLIC WERE THINKING OUR COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE COUNCIL AND THE RESIDENTS AT LAKE SEEMS TO BE A CONCERN.

MYSELF PERSONALLY, I'VE HAD MANY CONSTITUENTS COME TO MY WORKPLACE WITH CERTAIN CONCERNS.

BUT I HEARD MR. BLAKE SAY, IT CAN BE VERY FRUSTRATING WHEN YOU GO TO SOMEBODY'S WORKPLACE, WHICH WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO RUN A BUSINESS.

I CAN RELATE TO THAT.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE OTHER COUNSELORS, BUT I PRIDE MYSELF AND ALWAYS GETTING BACK TO THE PEOPLE WITH AN ANSWER.

WHETHER OR NOT YOU'VE BEEN A FAMILY AND ELLIOT LAKE FOR 40 YEARS OR YOU'VE JUST MOVED TO TOWN.

I ALWAYS GET BACK TO THEM.

ACTUALLY, THAT'S THE VERY FIRST TIME I MET MR. BLAKE WAS WITH A CONCERN AND I NEVER EVEN KNEW HIM BEFORE.

THERE IS A FINE LINE ABOVE, WE CAN SAY TO THE PUBLIC AND WHAT WE CAN SAY TO THE PUBLIC.

BUT I AGREE WE DO HAVE TO WORK ON OUR COMMUNICATION SKILLS A LITTLE BETTER.

I THINK IN THE NEW YEAR MYSELF, I'LL TRY A LITTLE BIT HARDER AND I'M SURE THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WILL TOO.

THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I REALLY REALLY GOT AS A MAJOR CONCERN FROM THE PUBLIC. THAT'S IT.

>> THANK YOU, COUNSELOR FLINTOFF.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WELL, I WOULD AGREE IT'S BEEN A LONGER PROCESS THAN PLANNED TO GET THE STRATEGIC PLAN FINISHED.

WE TRIED OUR BEST TO DO A DOUBLE ENTENDRE TYPE OF THING.

WE DID A DRAFT, BROUGHT IT TO THE PUBLIC, RECEIVED INPUT, CONTINUED ON A SECOND DRAFT, WENT BACK TO THE PUBLIC AND RECEIVE MORE INPUT.

AGAIN, THIS IS BASICALLY A SKELETON OF A PLAN THAT WERE MEANT TO DO YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.

IS IT PERFECT? NO, BUT IT GIVES YOU STRUCTURE AND IT GIVES YOU GUIDELINES THAT WE CAN IMPROVE ON.

AS WE GET MORE EXPERIENCE AND AS WE ATTAIN CERTAIN ACHIEVEMENTS OR MILESTONES.

IT'S MEANT TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU GO BACK TO, CAN BE REVAMPED AT ANYTIME.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO USING IT FOR WHAT WE NEED TO BE GETTING DONE.

IT MAY CHANGE IN FOUR YEARS.

IT MAY BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT COUNCIL.

THEY MAY DECIDE TO DO IT AGAIN.

BUT AGAIN, THE GOAL OF THIS COUNCIL IS NOT JUST FOR US, BUT TO SET UP THE FUTURE FOR THE NEXT ROUND AND MAYBE THE ROUND AFTER THAT AND WHOEVER'S IN THESE CHAIRS HOPEFULLY WILL TAKE THE GUIDANCE AND HOPEFULLY, WE CAN IMPROVE THIS PLAN AS WE GO ALONG TO A LEVEL THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.

BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT START.

AND I'D LIKE TO THANK MR. DHABI FOR ALL HIS HARD WORK.

I THINK IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THAT WE SHOULD FIND THE VOTE AND GET IT IN PLAY.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I NEED A MOTION FIRST, THAT COUNCIL ADOPTS THE MUNICIPAL STRATEGIC PLAN AS PRESENTED.

WE HAVE A MOVER, COUNSELOR BULL, SECONDER COUNSELOR MANN.

ALL IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED. THAT IS CARRIED.

INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS,

[7. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS]

AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH THE POSITION PLANNED PROCEDURE, CRITERIA OR INSTRUCTION TO BE APPLIED TO ANY NEGOTIATIONS CARRIED ON OR TO BE CARRIED ON BY OR ON BEHALF OF THE MUNICIPALITY OR LOCAL BOARD.

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MAY HAVE EMOTION THAT THIS ITEM BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION.

MOVER, COUNCILLOR BULL SECONDED, COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

ALL IN FAVOR? NON OPPOSED, THAT CARRIED.

ITEM 7.2 MEMO FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REGARDING OFFER TO PURCHASE TO 255 HIGHWAY WENT TO WAIT AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH THE PROPOSED ARE PENDING ACQUISITION OR DISPOSITION OF LAND BY THE MUNICIPALITY.

IT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 239 2C OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT 2001.

WE HAVE A MOTION THAT THIS ITEM WILL BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION.

A MOVER, COUNCILLOR MANN, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR SEIDEL.

ALL IN FAVOR, NON OPPOSED, I JUST CARRIED.

ITEM 7.3 MEMO FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REGARDING UPDATE ON PROPERTY ACQUISITION ON FOX DRIVE.

AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH A PROPOSED APPENDING ACQUISITION OR DISPOSSESSION OF LAND BY THE MUNICIPALITY AND MAYBE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 239 2C OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT 2001, MAY HAVE A MOTION THAT THIS ITEM BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION.

MOVER, COUNCILLOR.

MORE SETH, SECONDER.

COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

ALL IN FAVOR NON OPPOSED.

THAT IS CARRIED.

MEMO FROM THE DIRECTOR OF CLERKS AND PLANNING SERVICES REGARDING SALE OF LANDS ON OAKLAND BOULEVARD.

UPDATE. AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH THE PROPOSED APPENDING DISPOSITION OF PROPERTY BY THE MUNICIPALITY, IT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION AS PER SECTION 239 2C OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT MAY HAVE A MOTION THAT THIS MATTER BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION.

A MOVER, COUNCILLOR MANN, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR SEIDEL, ALL IN FAVOR, NON OPPOSED. THAT'S CARRIED.

PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS,

[8. PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS]

AT THE DECEMBER 4TH RECREATION AND CULTURE STANDING COMMITTEE MEETING, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THAT COUNCIL APPROVE STAFF'S OPERATIONAL PLAN ON THE PROPOSED CULTURAL FACILITY LOCATED AT 40 HILLSIDE DRIVE NORTH TO HAVE THE MAIN FLOOR FUNCTION AS A WELCOME CENTER AND A HYBRID MUSEUM AND PERFORMING ART SPACE AND THE BASEMENT USED FOR STORAGE AND OTHER STAFF OPERATIONS.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS.

MOVER. COUNCILLOR FLINT OFF.

SECONDED, COUNCILLOR BULL. MRS. MODEL, PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU. THROUGH YOUR WORSHIP. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPORT IS TO PROPOSE AN OPERATING PLAN FOR THE NEWLY ACQUIRED 40 HILLSIDE DRIVE NORTH PROPERTY SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN THE PLANS FOR RENOVATIONS AND START APPLYING FOR PROVINCIAL AND FEDERAL FUNDING TO OFFSET THE COST OF THESE RENOVATIONS.

A LOT OF THIS FUNDING DOES REQUIRE RESOLUTIONS FROM COUNCIL IN ORDER TO APPLY.

THIS CREATES SOME TIME SENSITIVITY.

IN PARTICULAR, ONE GRANT WE ARE KEEN TO APPLY FOR IS THE CANADIAN CULTURAL SPACES FUND, WHICH RENEWS IN MARCH.

WE DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET AHEAD AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ANY LEFTOVER FUNDING AND PUT IN AN APPLICATION EARLY IN THE NEW YEAR.

WITH THIS, I'M SENSITIVITY IN MIND.

WE HAVE COMPILED THIS OPERATING PLAN FOR THE 40 HILLSIDE DRIVE NORTH PROPERTY SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS PROJECT UNDERWAY.

THIS PROPOSAL PROVIDES AN OPTION TO MINIMIZE THE EXPENSES AND TIMELINE NECESSARY TO HAVE THE FACILITY OPEN AND SERVING THE PUBLIC, AS WELL AS TO BRIDGE SOME OF OUR CURRENT OPERATIONAL DEFICIENCIES.

THESE DEFICIENCIES, OF COURSE OR AS A RESULT OF THE LOSS OF OUR CIVIC CENTER IN 2019, WHICH FORMALLY HOUSED THE CITY'S MUSEUM AND WELCOME CENTER.

THE MUSEUM REQUIRES A PERMANENT HOME FOR WORKSPACE, EXHIBITION SPACE AND STORAGE OF THE CITY'S HERITAGE COLLECTION SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE ARCHIVING THIS LARGELY UNDOCUMENTED COLLECTION AND TO ALLOW FOR PUBLIC ACCESS TO THESE ARTIFACTS AND TO ENSURE THEY ARE STORED AND MAINTAINED SAFELY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

THE WELCOME CENTER LIKEWISE REQUIRES A PERMANENT, CENTRALIZED SPACE WITH CONSISTENT BUSINESS HOURS SO THAT I CAN RELIABLY SERVE VISITORS AND RESIDENTS ALIKE.

THERE IS ALSO, OF COURSE, PUBLIC INTERESTS TO SEE THE 40 HILLSIDE DRIVE NORTH PROPERTY USED AS A MULTI-FUNCTIONAL SPACE AND STAFF DEFINITELY AGREES THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THIS FACILITY AS A PERFORMANCE VENUE FOR SMALL EVENTS AND AS A PLACE TO HAVE SMALL GATHERINGS.

THE SIZE LIMITED DUE TO

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STAFF IS ALSO OF THE OPINION THAT BY PUTTING SOME CONSIDERATION INTO THE DESIGN OF THIS FACILITY, THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A UNIQUE CULTURAL SPACE THAT CAN SERVE AS A MEANS BY WHICH TO SHARE ELLIOT LAKE STRONG AND VARIED COMMUNITY PERFORMANCE PROGRAMMING, AS WELL AS ITS COLLECTION OF HISTORICAL ARTIFACTS WITH VISITORS AND RESIDENTS.

WITH THIS REASONING, IT IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THE 40 HILLSIDE DRIVE NORTH FACILITY BE RETROFITTED TO ACCOMMODATE A WELCOME CENTER AND A HYBRID MUSEUM AND PERFORMING ARTS BASED ON THE MAIN FLOOR, AND A STORAGE AND WORKING SPACE FOR THE MUSEUM'S HERITAGE COLLECTION AND ARCHIVING ACTIVITIES IN THE BASEMENT.

THE WELCOME CENTER WOULD INHABIT A COUNTER AND OFFICE SPACE AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE FACILITY AND THE HYBRID MUSEUM AND PERFORMING ART SPACE WOULD OCCUPY THE ASSEMBLY AREA ON THE MAIN FLOOR.

THE MUSEUM WOULD BE COMPOSED OF BOTH PERMANENT AND TEMPORARY EXHIBITS, WITH THE STAGE AREA AS ADJUNCT SPACE FOR VIDEO VIEWING EXPERIENCES, OR OTHER INTERACTIVE DISPLAYS.

PERMANENT EXHIBITS OF OUR CORE COLLECTIONS WOULD EXIST ON THE PERIMETER OF THE ASSEMBLY AREA AND MODULAR DISPLAYS AND SEATING WOULD BE ARRANGED IN THE CENTER.

THE CENTER DISPLAYS WOULD BE FLEXIBLE UNITS OR PANELS ABLE TO BE EASILY REARRANGED OR DISASSEMBLED TO ACCOMMODATE ANY BOOKINGS AT THE FACILITY OUTSIDE OF MUSEUM'S NORMAL OPERATING HOURS.

USING THE BASEMENT OF THE 40 HILLSIDE DRIVE NORTH FACILITY FOR STORAGE WILL PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR THE COLLECTION, WILL ELIMINATE STAFF TIME NEEDED TO MAINTAIN THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROLS OF ITS CURRENT STORAGE FACILITY IN RIO DEN AND IT WILL ELIMINATE TRANSPORTATION OF ARTIFACTS BACK-AND-FORTH AND WILL ALSO ALLOW FOR THE SPACE NECESSARY TO CONTINUE PROPERLY ARCHIVING AND MONITORING THE COLLECTION.

THE RIO DEN STORAGE IS AN INTERMEDIATE SOLUTION AT BEST AS THE LACK OF WEATHER PROOFING AND HVAC SYSTEM LEAVE THE ENTIRE COLLECTION AT RISK TO BE COMPROMISED SHOULD OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROLS FAIL.

STORING IN THE COLLECTIONS AT RIO DEN COMPROMISES THE UTILITY OF THIS FACILITY WHERE WE CAN OPTIMIZE IT FOR MORE SUITED USES.

DUE TO THE COST AND IRREPLACEABLE NATURE OF THE CITY'S HERITAGE COLLECTIONS, IT IS STAFF'S STRONG OPINION THAT OVERSIGHT OF THIS FACILITY MUST REMAIN WITH STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS SPECIFICALLY TRAINED IN THE CARE AND HANDLING OF THE ARTIFACTS, AS WELL AS THE TRAINED IN THE MUSEUM'S POLICIES AND PROCEDURES TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND INTEGRITY OF THE COLLECTIONS DUE TO THE LIABILITY INHERENT IN THE VALUE OF THE COLLECTION, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE FACILITY REMAIN UNDER CITY STAFF CARE AND I'LL BE OUTSOURCED TO A THIRD PARTY SO THAT ALL PUBLIC ACCESS CAN BE CAREFULLY MONITORED.

IN SUMMARY, TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THE NEWLY ACQUIRED 40 HILLSIDE DRIVE NORTH PROPERTY, IT IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THE MAIN FLOOR BE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC USE WITH THE ENTRANCE RETROFITTED FOR A WELCOME CENTER AND ACCESSIBLE WASH ROOMS AND THE ASSEMBLY AREA USED AS A HYBRID MUSEUM AND RENTABLE PERFORMING ART SPACE, WHILE THE BASEMENT WOULD BE ASSIGNED FOR STAFF USE, FOR STORAGE AND WORKSPACE.

THIS PROPOSAL ENVISIONS A MULTI-FUNCTIONAL SPACE WHICH CAN ACCOMMODATE A VARIETY OF PERFORMING ARTS, PROGRAMMING, EVENTS, PRESENTATIONS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES, WHILE PROVIDING ACCESS TO OUR COMMUNITIES HERITAGE AND ENSURING OUR COLLECTIONS ARE PROTECTED FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

WITH THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE, THIS OPERATIONAL PLAN PROVIDES THE MOST COST AND TIME EFFECTIVE SOLUTION TO HAVE THE 40 HILLSIDE DRIVE NORTH FACILITY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

WITH APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT OUTLINE, STAFF CAN BEGIN PLANS FOR RENOVATIONS AND FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO ELABORATE ON THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THIS PROPOSAL OR IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MRS. MODEL.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COUNCILLOR MORRISSETTE.

>> MR. CHAIR, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WE KNOW THAT THE UPSTAIRS HAS REALLY GOOD ACOUSTIC FOR ENTERTAINMENT.

WITH THAT CHANGE, WITH ALL THAT EXTRA PRODUCT THAT IS IN THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO PUT A FEW EXTRA CHAIRS AND HAVING ALL OF THOSE EXTRA DISC PLAYERS, WILL THAT TAKE AWAY FROM POSSIBLE SETTINGS THAT WE WOULD NEED FOR ANY OF THE SHOWS THAT MAY COME IN THE BUILDING.

>> THANK YOU THROUGH YOUR WORSHIP.

WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE THAT IT WOULD HAVE ANY EFFECT ON AND YOU HAVE THE VISIBILITY OR THE SOUND QUALITY OF THE SPACE.

EVERYTHING, LIKE WE SAID, WOULD BE MODULAR.

WE'D BE ABLE TO TAKE IT UP COMPLETELY OR REARRANGE IT SO THAT IT'S FIXED UPON THE PERIMETER OF THE WALLS.

DEFINITELY ANYTHING THAT'S TALL WOULD DEFINITELY BE MOVED OUT OF THE WAY.

A LOT OF THE CASES WOULD BE AS LOW-LYING AS THE PEWS CURRENTLY FIXED THERE,

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EVEN IF WE JUST DID A PARTIAL SET UP NOT TAKING EVERYTHING OUT COMPLETELY IF IT WAS A SMALLER OCCUPANCY EVENT AND WE JUST DID A PARTIAL WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANYTHING WOULD AFFECT THE SOUND QUALITY.

AGAIN, EVERYTHING WOULD BE ABLE TO BE COMPLETELY REMOVED FROM THE ROOM IF NEEDED, BESIDE THOSE PERMANENTLY FIXED UPON THE PERIMETER OF THE WALL, IN WHICH CASE THEY WOULD JUST BE FIXED TO THE WALL AND NOT AFFECTING THE SOUND. THANK YOU.

>> OUR NEXT QUESTION THROUGH YOU, MR. CHAIR. BREAK NOW THERE'S PEWS.

ARE WE INTEND TO CHANGE THAT TO CHAIRS? ARE WE GOING TO LEAVE THAT? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT DISCUSSED YET?

>> THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, UP TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE I DON'T BELIEVE THE PEWS ARE IN OUR POSSESSION.

I BELIEVE THEY STILL BELONG TO THE FORMER OCCUPANTS.

DURING THE RENOVATION PROCESS, I BELIEVE THEY WOULD BE COMPLETELY REMOVED REGARDLESS.

OF COURSE, IF WE WERE TO GO FORWARD WITH A PROPOSAL OF THIS SORT, WE WOULD PRIORITIZE MOVABLE CHAIR SO THAT WE CAN CONTROL THE AMOUNT OF OCCUPANCY, HOW THEY'RE ARRANGED.

WE WOULD WANT CHAIRS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE AT THE COLLINS HALL JUST FOR THE CONVENIENCE AND FLEXIBILITY

>> THANK YOU COUNCILOR MORISSETTE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR FLINTOFF.

>> THANK YOU. YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. MODEL.

THIS THING, A HYBRID MUSEUMS I'M THINKING OF MR. THOMAS' COMMENTS.

WE GET TO THE WINTER WHEN THINGS REALLY SLOWED DOWN AND THERE'S CHRISTMAS CONCERTS COMING UP AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOU COULD TECHNICALLY SAY WHILE THE MUSEUM'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT BUSY IN DECEMBER AND YOU COULD PROBABLY SET UP A MORE OF A FLEXIBLE SCHEDULE AND THEN IN SUMMER THEN IT WOULD BE MORE MUSEUMS. THAT'S PROBABLY WHY YOU HAVE HYBRID IN HERE.

I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA.

>> THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP. DEFINITELY HYBRIDS IT WOULD BE COMPLETELY FLEXIBLE AND ALL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WE WOULD WORK AROUND ANY BOOKINGS TO THE SPACE.

IT MIGHT SEE MORE HIGHER TRAFFIC IN THE WINTERTIME FOR DIFFERENT CONCERTS AND EVENTS OF THAT NATURE AND SLOW DOWN IN THE SUMMER.

BUT REGARDLESS OF THE TIME OF YEAR, WE WOULD WORK AROUND WHEN THE SPACE WAS BEING RENTED.

LIKE YOU SAID, A FLEXIBLE HYBRID SPACE SO THAT PEOPLE COULD ENJOY BOTH STREAMS OF THE CULTURE OFFERED AT THE 40 HILLSIDE DRIVE NORTH FACILITY.

>> JUST A COMMENT. WE DO NEED PROPER WELCOME, SAM, OR WE DO NEED A MUSEUM TO THINK OF A NEW BUILD ON THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY.

THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE PROBABLY LOOKED AT THIS AND IT'S CALLED WORKING TOGETHER, PUTTING ALL THREE OF THEM TOGETHER.

I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLINTOFF.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COUNCILOR MANN?

>> THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. MOTTO.

THIS GOES THROUGH, WE'LL HAVE A YEAR-ROUND WELCOME CENTER AND MUSEUM.

>> THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, YES, THAT IS THE INTENTION WITH THIS PROPOSAL.

WE WOULD HAVE REGULAR OPERATING HOURS FOR BOTH THE WELCOME CENTER AND THE MUSEUM.

I'M SURE SIMILAR TO THE OPERATIONAL HOURS OF CITY HALL, WHERE IT HAS CONSISTENT HOURS WHERE THE PUBLIC KNOWS THEM IN ADVANCE ALL THROUGHOUT THE WEEK AND THEY CAN COME IN AND VISIT FOR THEIR NEEDS.

>> THANK YOU I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR FLINTOFF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THREE BIRDS IN THAT THING, HOWEVER THE SAYING GOES.

BUT [LAUGHTER] I DREW A BLANK THERE.

BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO WORK FOR A LOT OF GROUPS THAT WE WANT TO WORK WITH.

I THINK ONCE WE SEE THE PLANS TO AND HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK IS GOING TO MAYBE GET MORE PEOPLE ONSIDE WITH IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNSELOR BULL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COUNCILOR MANN?

>> THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU JUST TO MR. MOTTO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE WORK.

I THINK IT WOULD BE QUITE CLEAR.

I DON'T THINK I'D GET ANY DISAGREEMENT FROM COUNCIL THAT.

HAVING ALL OF OUR ARTIFACTS STORED AT THE RIO DEN, IT'S NOT INAPPROPRIATE USE FOR THAT.

I THINK THE CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE ARTIFACTS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY.

HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY OF 40 HILLSIDE DRIVE NORTH COME AVAILABLE, I THINK AGAIN, IS A BENEFIT.

TO HAVE A MUSEUM AND A WELCOME CENTER OPEN YEAR ROUND AGAIN ARE DEFINITELY ADDITION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR MANN.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR REPORT.

I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE ACHIEVING THE SPIRIT OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE.

ONCE AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CONGREGATION OF THE UNITED CHURCH.

I KNOW THAT WITH THE CHRISTMAS SEASON COMING UP, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR, THERE PROBABLY WON'T BE CHRISTMAS CAROLS OR A SERVICE AND THAT'S IMPACTFUL FOR MANY OF THE CONGREGATION.

AT THE TIME OF CHRISTMAS, IT IS MUCH MORE APPRECIATED THAT WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO USE THIS, WHICH I CONSIDER A GIFT.

IT OFFERS FLEXIBILITY FOR A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ATTAIN.

THE HYBRID NOTION.

IS IT PERMANENT? WHO KNOWS. BUT FOR NOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED.

THINGS WILL CHANGE IN THE FUTURE.

USE MAY CHANGE IN THE FUTURE.

BUT I LIKE THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE TAKING, AT LEAST ESTABLISHING SOME PLANS, GETTING SOME FUNDING AND APPLYING FOR GRANTS AND ESTABLISHING A USE FOR WHAT I CONSIDER A HERITAGE BUILDING A VALUE LAKE.

I'M IN AGREEMENT THIS IS THE WAY WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU AGAIN. ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> LET'S HAVE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR.

NON OPPOSED, AND THAT IS CARRIED.

REPORT FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REGARDING APPLICATION TO THE CHARGE ONEV CHARGING GRANT.

AT THE DECEMBER 5TH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDING COMMITTEE MEETING, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED.

THE COUNCIL APPROVE THE NEWLY ACQUIRED SITE AT 40 HILLSIDE DRIVE NORTH AS THE LOCATION FOR INSTALLATION OF EVC STATIONS.

THAT COUNCIL APPROVED THE APPLICATION TO ONTARIO CHARGE AND GRAD PROGRAM TO ASSIST WITH FUNDING.

COUNCIL COMMIT TO BUDGETING AND UPSIDE OF 29,000 FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGER IN THE 2024 BUDGET.

MAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

MOVE TO DISCUSS.

COUNCILOR MORISSETTE? WE'RE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? GO AHEAD, STEVE. SORRY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> NOT EVERYBODY WHO WAS AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING.

>> [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. HOPE YOU'RE ALL DOING WELL.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. I'M GOING TO DOUBLE DOWN ON MY COMMENT THAT I MADE IT COMMITTEE.

THIS IS THE FIRST REPORT IN MEMORY THAT I BROUGHT TO COUNCIL SAYING I REALLY DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM MY SIDE AND BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL FOR INPUT FROM FULL DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

THE OPPORTUNITY LIES TO BRING IN AN EV CHARGER AND HAVE IT AVAILABLE THE MUNICIPALITY.

AGAIN, THIS LIES SOLELY AS A TOURISM ATTRACTION PIECE.

THE CHANCES THAT REGULAR CONSTITUENT WOULD USE IT ARE VERY SLIM TO NONE IN OUR MUNICIPALITY.

JUST FROM THE CONCEPT OF EV CHARGING IN A COMMUNITY.

THE ONLY CONSTITUENTS STAFF HAVE DONE RESEARCH AND REALLY THE ONLY CONSTITUENT THAT WE CAN ENVISION USING THIS IS SOMEONE WHO CHOOSES TO BUY AN EV AND LIVES IN A MULTI DWELLING UNIT IN THE COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE A CHARGER.

BUT THEN AGAIN, THAT BEGS THE QUESTION, WHY WOULD YOU BUY AN EV AND NOT HAVE A HOME OR YOU CAN CHARGE IT OR A FACILITY TO CHARGE IT? THIS APPLICATION THAT WE'RE PUTTING THROUGH IS WHAT LIKELY IS THE MOST AFFORDABLE WAY FOR US TO ACQUIRE AN EV CHARGING UNIT OR UNITS FOR THE MUNICIPALITY.

BUT AGAIN, AT $29,000, THE DECISION FOR COUNCIL IS, THERE ARE ENOUGH OF A RETURN ON INVESTMENT TO CREATE A TOURISM DRAW.

WHAT'S CAUSED ME THE MOST ANGST IN MY RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS HAS BEEN I CAN'T OFFER CONCRETE NUMBERS TO COUNCIL.

I CAN'T SAY, YES, WE DON'T GET TOURISTS DRIVING EVS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN EV CHARGER OR WE DON'T HAVE AN EV CHARGER BECAUSE THERE'S NO TOURISTS WITH EVS THAT COME TO THE COMMUNITY.

IN TURN, I CAN'T TELL COUNCIL THAT THERE'S CONCRETE NUMBERS OF WHO WE MAY SEE OR THE NUMBERS WE MAY EXPERIENCE IF WE DO GET THIS.

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STAFF HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH OUR PRIVATE ENTERPRISE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY BOTH LOCAL AND NATIONAL PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE NATIONAL PARTNERS.

THERE HASN'T BEEN A FULL CONCRETE, NO WE WILL NEVER BRING AN EV CHARGER TO ELLIOT LAKE.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SOME OF OUR PARTNERS, BUT AGAIN, NOTHING CONCRETE, EITHER PRO OR CON.

SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILOR MANN.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU, JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

FIRST, THROUGH YOU TO MR. ANTUNES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CHANGING THE LOCATION.

I WAS NEVER IN SUPPORT OF HAVING THE MINER'S MONUMENT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

ONE, IN THE WINTER, THE PARKING LOT IS NOT COMPLETELY OPENED.

IT'S THE NORTH-SOUTH SKI-DOO TRAIL, WHICH AGAIN, I BELIEVE IS PROBLEMATIC, NOT THAT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY GO WELL AT THE MINER'S MONUMENT, BUT I THINK IT TAKES AWAY FROM THE PURPOSE OF THE MONUMENT IS RECOGNITION OF THOSE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES THROUGH MINING IN THIS COMMUNITY.

I THINK HAVING THOSE CHANGES, I COMPLETELY APPRECIATE AND THANK YOU.

I TOO, WOULD SHARE THE COMMENTS AS I THINK I DID ORIGINALLY WHEN THIS CAME TO COUNCIL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR HASN'T TAKEN A LARGER STANCE ON THIS, THAT THE MUNICIPALITY SHOULD BE THE ONES THAT ARE TAKING ON THIS RESPONSIBILITY.

I THINK THOSE COMMENTS I STILL HAVE.

IS THERE A MARKET OF EVS IN THE AREA? WELL, CLEARLY THERE IS BECAUSE I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE MET WITH COUNCIL, THAT HAVE COME FORWARD AND THEY'RE COMING FROM SOUTHERN ONTARIO THAT HAVE TO TRAVEL WEST TO BLIND RIVER BEFORE THEY CHARGE, AND THEN HEAD BACK EAST.

IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.

HAVING SAID THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF A $29,000 INVESTMENT IS GOING TO REGAIN THE TOTAL INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

WHEN WE TALK TO THE CONSULTANTS AT CONFERENCE, THEY ARE LOOKING TO GARNER SUPPORT FOR MUNICIPALITIES.

THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ONE CHARGE OR THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT REDUNDANCY.

SO AT LEAST TWO, POSSIBLY THREE.

THEN WE HAVE ONE CHARGER AND THEN HOW LONG IS THE LINE FOR PEOPLE WAITING IN IT IN THOSE BUSY TIMES? SO DOES THAT BECOME AN ATTRACTANT OR A DETRACTOR FOR THAT PARTICULAR SITE? AGAIN, THOSE ARE COMMENTS THAT I WOULD STILL HAVE.

I KNOW THAT THERE IS CURRENTLY, I BELIEVE, A FUNCTIONAL EV CHARGER IN THE COMMUNITY, I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL IT'S USED.

WORKING IN THE CENTRAL COMMERCIAL AREA, I DON'T BELIEVE I'VE EVER SEEN A VEHICLE PLUGGED INTO IT.

HOWEVER, I'M NOT OVER THAT WAY AS MUCH AS IN THE OTHER DIRECTION, BUT AGAIN, I THINK JUST SOME PRELIMINARY COMMENTS, YOUR WORSHIP. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR MANN. MR. ANTUNES.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THROUGH YOU. JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS TO COUNCILOR MANN'S POINT OR TO COUNCILOR MANN'S COMMENTS.

I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO LAY IT AT THE FEET OF OUR PRIVATE ENTERPRISE.

I THINK THEIR PATH TO DECIDING WHETHER TO HAVE ONE OR NOT BECOMES THE SAME AS OURS AND TRULY COMES DOWN TO ROI RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

THE PLAZA OWNERS THAT WE'VE SPOKEN TO HAVE SHOWN SOME INTEREST THROUGH THE DISCUSSION, NOT AT THE PRICE POINT IT IS NOW.

BUT IF WE ASSUME THAT THE $29,000 AND THAT DOES INCLUDE SOME REDUNDANCY, THAT IS TWO UNITS, SO WE ARE OKAY IN THAT STRETCH.

BUT AT $29,000 INVESTMENT FOR SOME OF THE RETAILERS THAT WE HAVE HERE, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY COMMITTING TO A $29,000 MARKETING PIECE OR A CELL OR AN AD.

SOME OF OUR RETAILERS HERE OR BUSINESS OWNERS THAT HAVE IT WOULD HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO RECOUP THAT INVESTMENT OR WOULD THAT OFFER INCREMENTAL INCREASE TO THEIR BUSINESS TO JUSTIFY THAT? I THINK THAT THEIR LACK OF JUMPING ON THIS ANSWER THAT QUESTION THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS MUCH MORE SENSITIVE TO, IF I SPEND 29, WILL I MAKE 30 BACK? THEY'RE MUCH MORE SENSITIVE TO THAT THAN WE ARE MUNICIPALITY.

AGAIN, I JUST DIDN'T WANT THE COMMENT OUT IN THE COMMUNITY TO BE THAT PRIVATE ENTERPRISE SAID THE CITY SHOULD BUY IT.

IT WAS MORE OF, WE DON'T SEE ENOUGH OF A RETURN FOR OURSELVES, AND NOT THE CITY SHOULD DO IT.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. MR. ANTUNES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR FLINTOFF.

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>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, MORE OF A COMMENT.

I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH MR. ANTUNES.

THIS IS A TOURIST INVESTMENT, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMER.

FOR SURE THERE'S GOT TO BE PEOPLE DRIVING UP HERE AND WE'LL BE WONDERING IF WE HAVE AN EV STATION AND THEY'VE DRIVEN BY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T.

I'VE HAD SOME CALLS AT MY SHOP AND I'VE SAID, NO.

THERE'S ONE NOVA SCOTIA BANK, I DON'T KNOW THE STATUS OF IT, AND LEFT IT AT THAT.

I LIKE THE NEW LOCATION BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE A BIT OF TIME TO CHARGE AN EV.

SO AT LEAST THEY COULD PLUG IN AND GO INTO THE WELCOME CENTER BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE TOURISTS ARE GOING TO BE USING IT AND THEN GET INFORMATION ON ELLIOT LAKE, WHAT TO DO, BROWSING MUSEUM OR WHATEVER, AND WITHIN 20 MINUTES, HALF AN HOUR, IF IT'S A FAST CHARGER, THEY'LL BE GOOD TO GO.

I THINK IT'S REALLY FORWARD-THINKING BY COUNCIL BECAUSE EV IS COMING.

IT'S NOT GOING AS GREAT AS EVERYBODY THOUGHT, BUT TO THREE YEARS FROM NOW, IT WILL BE MORE AND MORE AND IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A GOOD GRANT LIKE THIS AND RETURN UNDER CONSTRUCTION OVER THERE ANYWAY, IT REALLY MAKES SENSE AND IT'S PART OF OUR NEW STRATEGIC PLAN FOR ENVIRONMENTAL NUMBER 8.

THAT'S IT, THANKS.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLINTOFF. COUNCILOR SEIDEL.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THROUGH YOU, I'M GOING TO ECHO COUNCILOR FLINTOFF'S REMARKS A WEE TINY BIT.

ITEM 8.1, WE JUST APPROVED TO PUT A PROPER WELCOME CENTER WITH A MUSEUM IN THERE FOR THE AMOUNT OF $29,000, FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING INTO ELLIOT LAKE TO GO TO THE WELCOME CENTER AND TO HAVE AN EV CHARGER THERE, I THINK IT'S AN ASSET.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RETURN WE'RE GOING TO GET ON IT.

BUT I THINK IT'LL WORK HAND IN HAND WITH ITEM 8.1 WITH THE WELCOME CENTER.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SEIDEL.

COUNCILOR BULL, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. TO MR. ANTUNES, ARE THESE GRANTS AVAILABLE YEARLY FOR THESE OR IS THIS LIKE A ONE-TIME GRANT THAT WE MIGHT MISS OUT ON?

>> THROUGH YOUR WORSHIP. THE CHARGE ON GRANT IS BRAND NEW.

IT WAS ANNOUNCED, I WANT TO SAY NOVEMBER 1ST, AND I APOLOGIZE IF I'M OFF BY A MONTH OR SO.

THE GRANT THAT WAS OUT LAST YEAR WAS THE ZEVIP GRANT THROUGH NATURAL RESOURCES CANADA, AND THAT'S WHERE WE ACQUIRED $75,000, CONDITIONALLY TOWARDS THIS PROJECT.

THIS GRANT NOW, IS NEW.

THERE'S BEING INVOLVED IN THE INFORMATION SESSIONS AND THE WEBINARS FOR IT.

THERE WAS, I THINK CLOSE TO 300 PEOPLE IN THE LAST WEBINAR.

THERE'S ALSO NOT A GUARANTEE THAT WE WILL GET THIS GRANT FUNDING.

I THINK WE'VE SEEN THE PROVINCES PUSH FOR ELECTRIFICATION.

WE'VE SEEN THE COMMERCIALS, WE'VE SEEN THE BILLBOARDS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING OUT.

I THINK ONTARIO MOVING THIS FORWARD TIES INTO A NETWORK.

SO AS OVER-SUBSCRIBED AS THIS WILL BE, WILL IT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE? MY GUT TELLS ME THERE WILL BE MORE GRANT FUNDING.

WILL IT BE AS GENEROUS AS THIS? I DON'T KNOW.

SO I THINK THERE WILL BE ONGOING EV GRANTS, BUT I'M NOT SURE IT WILL BE THIS.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE CHARGE ON GRANT HAS BEEN MADE AVAILABLE TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILOR BULL, SIR.

>> YEAH, THANK YOU. I ALSO AGREE WITH COUNCILOR MANN'S COMMENT THAT I THINK IT WAS HIM THAT SAID THAT, I'M LOSING MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT, THAT THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY SHOULD BE PUTTING MORE INTO THIS.

I DON T THINK [NOISE] THE MUNICIPALITIES SHOULD BE HAVING TO SHELL OUT MONEY TOWARDS THIS.

I KNOW THERE'S GRANTS LIKE 90% OR WHATEVER, BUT STILL, 29,000 IS 29,000 AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE OUR BUDGET DONE YET, [NOISE] FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO I'M STILL NOT TOO SURE YET.

>> MR. ANTUNES.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THROUGH YOU, JUST TO ADD ONTO YOUR COMMENT, COUNCILOR BULL, AND TO COUNCILOR MANN AS WELL, THE CHARGE ON PROGRAM IS AVAILABLE TO BOTH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC ENTERPRISES TO DIFFERING LEVELS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE CHARGE ON PROGRAM, THE MUNICIPALITY IS ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO 75 CENTS BASED ON THE CHARGER TYPE, PRIVATE ENTERPRISES ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO 50 CENTS.

SO WE'RE NOT QUITE AS GENEROUS AS MUNICIPAL.

BUT AGAIN, THAT TAKES A $29,000 EXPENDITURE FROM A MUNICIPALITY UP TO $40,000 FOR PRIVATE ENTERPRISE, WHICH THEN AGAIN, BACK TO THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT RETURN ON INVESTMENT,

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WE HAVE TO SELL $40,000 MORE OVER THE NEXT 5-7 YEARS TO JUSTIFY THE COST OF THAT.

SO IT IS ALSO AVAILABLE FOR PRIVATE ENTERPRISE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> COUNSELOR MORISSETTE.

>> FOR YOU, MR. CHAIR. I ALWAYS SET THIS AT THE LAST COMMITTEE MEETING.

I CAN'T SEE THIS HAPPENING, MY OPINION.

IF IT DOES HAPPEN OR THERE'S AN INFLUX OF VEHICLES THAT NEEDS THESE, I'M ALMOST SURE THAT THE GAS STATIONS ARE GOING TO PUT UP THEIR UNITS UP QUICK FOR $29,000 PLUS SOME A YEARLY FEE PLUS A MAINTENANCE COST THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OCCUR DAILY FOR THIS.

I THINK IT'S STILL A NEW PROGRAM.

THESE VEHICLES ARE NOT USED AS OFTEN IN THE WINTERTIME, MORE IN THE SUMMERTIME OR WARMER TEMPERATURE.

WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW LONG THESE EV CHARTER ARE GOING TO ALLOW US OR IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE THINGS IN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.

FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S GOING TO COST US, I THINK WE SHOULD NOT GO AHEAD WITH THIS.

THAT'S MY OPINION ON THE SUBJECT.

>> THANK YOU COUNSELOR MORISSETTE.

MR. ANTUNES, CAN YOU REMIND US OF THE DEADLINE FOR THE APPLICATION FOR GRANTS?

>> YES, SIR. YOUR WORSHIP THANK YOU.

THROUGH YOU, THE EV OR CHARGEON PROGRAM CLOSES JANUARY 31ST.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO THAT.

WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE. ONE OF OUR PARTNERS THAT IS WORKING WITH US ON THIS DOES A LOT OF THESE AND IT'S PUTTING THROUGH A LOT OF APPLICATIONS AS WE'VE SEEN WHEN WE'VE DONE OTHER GRANTS AND WE'RE WORKING WITH A FIRM.

THEY'RE DOING IT AS PART OF SELLING THE EQUIPMENT SO JANUARY 31ST, BUT REALLY WHERE THE FIRST FEW DAYS OF JANUARY TO GIVE THEM SOME COMMITMENT BECAUSE THEN A SITE INSPECTION HAS TO BE DONE AND ALONG WITH THE CHARGE ON GRANT APPLICATION, A CERTIFICATE FROM HYDRO1 HAS TO ACCOMPANY YOUR APPLICATION SAYING THE AREA SUITABLE, SITES SUITABLE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE APPLIED FOR SOONER RATHER THAN LATER BECAUSE THE GRANT OR THE APPLICATION IS NOT CONSIDERED WITHOUT IT OR WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED WITHOUT IT, EXCUSE ME.

>> THANK YOU. I SEE THIS FROM MULTIPLE ANGLES.

YES, IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA FOR THE FUTURE, THE ECONOMY.

THE LOCATION IS GOOD BUT WE ALSO HAVE LOCATIONS THAT COULD BE UTILIZED.

THE TRAIL HEAD MIGHT BE A GOOD SPOT FOR OUR DROP-IN CENTER FOR THE SUMMER.

IF YOU HAVE IT SET UP THERE, THEY CHARGE AND THE WAY THEY GO EITHER WAY.

THAT MAKES YOU UP TO ELLIOT LAKE AND BACK.

THAT COULD BE A SPOT.

IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DO AS A MUNICIPALITY OR SHOULD IT BE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR? OR DO WE JUST WAIT ON IT? OR DO WE JUST APPLY? SEE IF WE GET IT AND THEN DECIDE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? TOO MANY QUESTIONS HERE TO REALLY KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT ANSWER IS.

THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE BEHIND AND STARTING OUR 2024 BUDGET TALKS AND TO APPLY SOMETHING ALREADY.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE DONE IT IN THE PAST, BUT JUST KNOW THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND THINGS MIGHT BE A LITTLE TIGHTER.

THIS $29,000 COULD BE SPENT ELSEWHERE.

WE DO HAVE THE ARENA.

WE DON'T KNOW THE FULL IMPACT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE.

BUT 29,000 MIGHT BUILD A NEW GIRLS' CHANGE ROOM.

MY THOUGHTS ARE TO BE A LITTLE MORE CONSERVATIVE WITH THIS AND MAYBE DEFER TILL ANOTHER TIME.

THAT'S MY THOUGHTS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE MOTION TO DISCUSS THEN WHAT?

>> THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR FOR THE APPROVAL AS RECOMMENDED BY MR. ANTUNES'S REPORT.

WE'LL HAVE A VOTE THEN IF IT'S MAJORITY OPPOSED AND IT'S NOT CARRIED, IF THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF, IT WILL BE CARRIED.

>> VERY GOOD. COUNCILLOR MANN.

>> IF I MAY YOUR WORSHIP, MAYBE I WOULD RECOMMEND AT THIS POINT AN AMENDMENT TO REFER THIS PROJECT TO THE 2024 BUDGET PROCESS,

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COUNCIL HAS PREVIOUSLY COMMITTED TO GOING DOWN THE PATH.

WE'VE HAD CONSULTANTS WORKING WITH MR. ANTUNES'S DEPARTMENT FOR SOME TIME NOW.

I WOULD AGREE WITH THE COUNCIL'S COMMENTS THAT IT IS IMPORTANT.

IT IS TECHNOLOGY THAT'S COMING.

I DON'T IN ANY WAY WANT TO SIGNAL THAT WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE COMMUNITY.

I JUST THINK THAT THE PAYING FOR IT PART IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK.

I WOULD HEAR SOME OF THE COMMENTS MR. ANTUNES SAID ABOUT THE MUNICIPALITIES WOULD HAVE MORE RESOURCES IN ORDER TO DO THIS, WHICH IS TRUE.

SOME OF OUR CONSTITUENTS MAY FEEL DIFFERENTLY PROBABLY GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE FOR THIS, BUT I CAN JUST HEAR MY MOTHER SAYING, WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO HAVE A CAR WITH BATTERIES IN NORTHERN ONTARIO? GET GAS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

BUT ANYWAY, SO I'LL DEAL WITH THAT TOMORROW.

BUT SERIOUSLY THOUGH, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS COMING.

I WOULD REFER BACK TO BUDGET AND THEN THAT WAY AT LEAST WE CAN GET A SENSE OF DIRECTION MOVING FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS, YOUR WORSHIP.

AT LEAST THAT WAY IT'S MOVING FORWARD.

IF IT'S NOT THIS CYCLE, IT'S POTENTIALLY THE NEXT AND STILL GIVES COMMITMENT TO STAFF.

BESIDES THE FUNDING, THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME, WHICH I BELIEVE MR. ANTUNES SAID, WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANTS.

THAT'S ANOTHER COST AS WELL THAT I WOULD RECOGNIZE. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD. THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR MANN. COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. ANTUNES.

SINCE YOU'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THE CITY, EV HAS BEEN COMING BACK AND FORTH AND UP FOR DISCUSSION A FEW TIMES.

MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS THIS THE BIGGEST EV GRANT THAT YOU'VE SEEN YET?

>> THREE-YEAR YOUR WORSHIP, YES.

EASILY IT'S THE BIGGEST ONE THAT THE PROVINCE HAS PUT FORWARD AND I BELIEVE IT'S PART OF THEIR WHOLE ELECTRIFICATION PROGRAM IN THE PROVINCE.

THIS IS THE LARGEST ONE THAT ONTARIO HAS PUT THROUGH.

>> JUST TO FOLLOW UP, THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL WAS LOOKING AT THIS.

THEY HAD AGREED TO SPEND A LOT MORE MONEY AND THAT NEVER CAME TO FRUITATION OR WHATEVER THAT WORD IS THERE FOR IT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. IT NEVER HAPPENED OR WHY DON'T YOU GIVE ME ABOUT A 30-SECOND HISTORY ON THAT?

>> PROBABLY EVEN SHORTER THAN THIRTY-SECONDS, WHICH IS UNKNOWN FOR ME.

COUNCIL GAVE US DIRECTION TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT BECAUSE WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE COSTING WISE.

COUNCIL GAVE US DIRECTION TO PURSUE AND APPLY FOR THE GRANT.

THERE WAS NEVER A FIXED DOLLAR AMOUNT ATTACHED TO IT.

IT WAS PROCEED IF WE GET THE MONEY, WE'LL JUMP OFF THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET TO IT BECAUSE THEY WERE DEALING WITH A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.

IT WAS JUST KEEP WORKING AT IT AND APPLY FOR THE GRANT.

>> THANKS.

>> THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO DEFER TO THE BUDGETARY PROCESS.

DO WE HAVE A SECONDER FOR THAT AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR BULL. ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR FLINTOFF?

>> THIS GOOD, I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU GUYS.

MY ONLY CONCERN IS, UNLESS I KNOW MR. ANTUNES CAN'T READ THE FORTUNE, WE GOING TO BE TURNING IN AWAY A REALLY GOOD GRANT.

THEN THIS SUMMER OR A YEAR FROM NOW, BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED, EV HAS BEEN SLOW, BUT IT IS SLOWLY COMING AND IT IS A TOURIST INVESTMENT.

THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SPENDING 150,000 DOLLARS.

THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT IT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO FROM HERE. THANKS,.

>> MR. ANTUNES.

>> THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THANK YOU, COUNCILOR, FLINTOFF.

ABSOLUTELY, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ITEMS AT PLAY, WHICH IS, WE TALKED A BIT ABOUT A COMMITTEE IN DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM AGAIN, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES AT PLAY.

ONE IS IT GROWS, WILL COMPETITION COME, AS COUNCILOR MORRISSETTE SAID, FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR, ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW THERE'S ENOUGH HERE TO MAKE IT WORTH IT, WHICH NOW SPLITS OUR INVESTMENT.

WE ARE NO LONGER GETTING 100 PERCENT OF THE EVS IN TOWN, WE'RE GETTING 50 OR 30 DEPENDING ON HOW GOOD OUR SITE IS COMPARED TO OTHER ONES.

WE TALK ABOUT ALONG THE NORTH SHORE.

THIS GRANT IS VERY GENEROUS.

NOTHING SAYS THAT OUR NEIGHBORS IN THE TOWNSHIP OF SPANISH OR THE NORTH SHORE DON'T DO IT.

NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THE CONCERNS ABOUT MAKING IT IN AND OUT OF ELLIOT LAKE TO CHARGE YOUR VEHICLE TO HAVE TO GO TO BLIND RIVER OR TOWNSHIP OF ESPANOLA OR THE TOWN OF ESPANOLA, NOW THAT GETS NEGATED.

THERE'S NOT AS MUCH OF A CONCERN FOR COMING UP HERE THAT REALLY ALL TIES INTO IT.

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WE THINK TESLA AND EVS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR WHAT SEEMS FOREVER NOW BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT THEM A LOT, BUT IN THE HISTORY OF THE AUTOMOBILE, IT'S STILL A VERY SHORT BLIP.

WILL THESE CHARGERS DROP DRAMATICALLY AND PRICE ADOPTION GOES FORWARD? WE'VE SEEN THAT IN MANY APPLICATIONS AS WELL.

THINK OF THE FIRST PC THAT YOU BOUGHT COMPARED TO WHAT YOU CAN BUY A PC FOR TODAY.

THAT'S ALL THINGS, SO IF I COULD OFFER ANY ADVICE TO COUNCIL IS, I WOULDN'T WRAP OUR MIND TODAY AROUND, OH, MY GOODNESS, IF WE DON'T TAKE THIS TODAY, IT'S GOING TO COST US 20 TIMES AS MUCH A WEEK FROM NOW, A MONTH FROM NOW A YEAR FROM NOW.

I THINK THAT ALONG WITH THE GRANTS AND ONTARIO'S COMMITMENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH EV, I THINK THE PRICE MAY COME DOWN ON THE HARDWARE ITSELF AND THE GRANTS MAY OR MAY NOT CONTINUE.

MAYBE NOT AS GENEROUSLY AS THIS, BUT THAT IF ELECTRIFICATION TRULY IS THE FUTURE, I THINK THAT PRICING WILL COME DOWN AS WELL.

IF I HAD A CRYSTAL BALL, I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BE HERE.

>> ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IT'S A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE, I GET IT.

I JUST THINK I DON'T KNOW A SINGLE PERSON THAT HAS AN EV CAR.

MAYBE YOU KNOW ONE OR TWO EACH, MAYBE.

FOR NOW I THINK IT'S A LITTLE EARLY AND THAT'S MY OWN OPINION, BUT THIS TECHNOLOGY IS COMING.

IF IT'S LIKE MY CELL PHONE, YOU BUY A NEW ONE EVERY YEAR BECAUSE IT IMPROVES EVERY YEAR, AND THE COST, WELL, IT DOESN'T GO DOWN IF YOU HAVE AN APPLE.

JUST WAIT AND SEE, IS THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT.

PLUS, I THINK WE GOT TO GET OUR BUDGET.

YOU NEVER KNOW 29,000, PLUS THE YEARLY COST, PLUS YOU DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT LASTS AND UPGRADES IN FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, NONE OF THE COMPANIES IS GOING TO GUARANTEE ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY'RE BRAND NEW TOO.

DO WE KNOW ANY STATS ON THE TURNOVER RATE OF THESE CHARGING STATIONS? NO. SEE, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.

>> YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU, THE ASSUMPTION FROM THE PROVIDER IS 5-7 YEARS IS WHAT THEY'RE SUGGESTING AMORTIZING THE UNITS ON.

BUT AGAIN, VERY EARLY DAYS, WE DON'T KNOW BASED ON USE AND CLIMATE AND AREA, HOW MUCH THAT COULD CHANGE.

>> COUNCILOR MORRISSETTE.

>> THROUGH YOU, MR. CHAIR, JUST A VISUAL COMMENT I WANT TO MAKE.

THERE WERE SOME VISITORS THAT CAME TWO DOORS DOWN FROM US.

THEY HAD A VEHICLE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT GOT SET UP, BUT THEY WERE CHARGING IT OUT OF THE HOUSE SOMEHOW.

I COULD SEE PEOPLE DOING THAT LOT MORE THAN THROUGH EV CHARGERS IF THEY'RE COMING TO VISIT MR. FLINTOFF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY RIGHT NOW, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IN CALIFORNIA, THEY WERE HAVING PROBLEMS THERE WITH THE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY THAT WAS NEEDED FOR THE VEHICLES, AND THE AIR CONDITIONING AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN CALIFORNIA AND THEY WERE HAVING BROWNOUTS LAST YEAR.

JUST THAT COULD HAPPEN TO US VERY EASY ALSO HERE IN ONTARIO, SINCE OUR RESOURCES ARE WITH NEW YORK, QUEBEC, AND ONTARIO.

I THINK THERE'S STILL LOTS OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR MORRISSETTE.

I GUESS WE'RE VOTING ON THE AMENDED MOTION TO DEFER.

ALL IN FAVOR OF DEFERRAL.

THAT'S THREE. ALL OPPOSED? THAT'S TWO BECAUSE I'M FOR. WE'RE DEFERRING.

THERE'S NO OUTSIDE BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTING.

THERE'S NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

THERE ARE NO PETITIONS, THERE'S NO CORRESPONDENCE, NO NOTICES OF A MOTION.

COUNCIL REPORTS, AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[14. COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS]

BOTH MAKE WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS GIFTS.

THE NEW DESIGN IS AVAILABLE ONLY AT CITY HALL.

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PLEASE VISIT ELLIOTLAKE.CA/MERCHANDISE, TO SEE THE DESIGN AND TO FIND A LOCATION TO PURCHASE.

ON BEHALF OF ELLIOT LAKE CITY COUNCIL, WE WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE NEWLY-ELECTED CHIEF, BRENT NIGANABI, AND THE NEW AND RE-ELECTED MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AT THE MISSISSAUGA FIRST NATION.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU TO HELP BETTER OUR REGION.

ON THE SAME VEIN, WE'D ALSO LIKE TO CONGRATULATE NEWLY-ELECTIVE CHIEF, WIMILE JOHNSON, AT SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION.

WE HAVE ENJOYED A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH SERPENT RIVER AND WE HOPE TO CONTINUE THAT GOING FORWARD WITH CHIEF JOHNSON AND THE CURRENT COUNCIL.

GINGERBREAD HOUSE CONTEST THIS SATURDAY, AT COLLIS HALL, 12:00 PM TO 3:00 PM.

REGISTRATION IS STILL OPEN AT ELLIOTLAKE.CA/GINGERBREADHOUSECONTEST.

EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO JOIN US FOR SOME HOLIDAY FUN AND CHECK OUT ALL THE GINGERBREAD CREATIONS.

AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE 18 TOTAL REGISTRATIONS.

ROCK THE HOLIDAYS DRIVING TO HER IS AVAILABLE ON DRIFTSCAPE, WHICH IS THE APP FOR THE CITY AS A PART OF ON YOUR CELL PHONE, OR ACCESS THE MAP AT ELLIOTLAKE.CA/SPECIALEVENTS.

GRAB A HOT CHOCOLATE AND TAKE A DRIVE TO SEE THE WONDERFUL HOLIDAY DISPLAYS.

YOU CAN VOTE FOR YOUR FAVORITE AT ELLIOTLAKE.CA/ROUTETHEHOLIDAYSVOTING.

WHAT IS THE DEADLINE FOR VOTING?

>> LAST DAY FOR VOTING IS FRIDAY.

>> THIS FRIDAY? THANK YOU.

COMMUNITY CHRISTMAS CONCERT AT THE COLLINS HALL ON FRIDAY, DECEMBER THE 15TH, FROM 6:00-8:00 PM.

TICKETS ARE AVAILABLE AT DAD'S WORKS AND NORTH SHORE ADVERTISING AND COMMITTEE MEETINGS WILL BE HELD THE WEEK OF JANUARY 8TH AND 22ND, NEXT MONTH.

THERE WILL BE ONE COUNCIL MEETING HELD MONDAY, JANUARY 15TH AT 7:00 PM.

A SPECIAL MEETING CAN BE CALLED SHOULD THE NEED ARISE.

THEN MEETINGS WILL RETURN TO THEIR REGULAR SCHEDULE IN FEBRUARY.

PLEASE NOTE, CITY HALL WILL BE CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC THE WEEK OF DECEMBER 25TH.

CITY HALL WILL ALSO BE CLOSED MONDAY, JANUARY THE 1ST, 2024.

FOR A COMPLETE LIST OF HOLIDAY HOURS INCLUDING CITY HALL TRANSIT, LANDFILL, PLEASE SEE NOTES FROM CITY HALL OR VISIT THE CITY'S WEBSITE OR SOCIAL MEDIA SITES.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL, THIS IS OUR LAST REGULAR MEETING OF 2023.

WE WISH EVERYONE A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS, SAFE AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS, AND ALL THE BEST TO EVERYONE IN THE NEW YEAR.

I GUESS THAT'S IT. MERRY CHRISTMAS.

THERE ARE NO ADDENDUMS. THERE'S NO INTRODUCTION OR CONSIDERATION BYLAWS.

[17. CLOSED SESSION]

WE HAVE A MOTION THAT COUNCIL PROCEED INTO CLOSED SESSION AT THE HOUR OF 7:58 PM, A MOVER, COUNCILOR BULL, SECONDED, COUNCILOR FLINTOFF.

ALL IN FAVOR? NONE ARE OPPOSED, THAT'S CARRIED.

WE HAVE A MOTION THAT COUNCIL RETURN TO OPEN SESSION AT THE HOUR OF 9:36.

A MOVER, COUNCILOR SEIDEL, SECONDED, COUNCILOR BULL. ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED. CONFIRMATORY BYLAW 18.1,

[18. CONFIRMATORY BY-LAW]

MAY I HAVE A MOTION THAT BYLAW 23-112 BE PASSED? A MOVER, COUNCILOR FLINTOFF, SECONDED, COUNCILOR MORRISSETTE. ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED. AN ADJOURNMENT MAY HAVE A MOTION THAT THE MEETING ADJOURNED AT THE HOUR OF 9:36 PM. A MOVER.

COUNCILOR MANN, SECONDED, COUNCILOR BULL.

ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU AND MERRY CHRISTMAS AGAIN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.