Dec 20, 2023 Special City Council

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GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE SPECIAL MEETING OF COUNCIL DATED WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 20TH, 2023, 06 P.M.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

UH. ROLL CALL. ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

ARE THERE ANY DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST?

[3. DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST]

GOING TWICE.

THERE? NONE.

PUBLIC INPUT SESSION.

[4. PUBLIC INPUT SESSION]

MR. THOMAS, PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING, ACTING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

I HAVE SOMETHING ON MY PHONE, SO I HAVE TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THAT THERE.

WITH REGARD TO ITEM 6.1.

IT'S A DIFFICULT THING THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO DEAL WITH, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

PREVIOUSLY IN THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, THEY WERE FACED WITH A SIMILAR THING, AND I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO DO IT, BUT THEY HAD WAIVED SOLICITOR CLIENT PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THIS IN A PUBLIC FORUM TWICE DURING THE LAST ADMINISTRATION.

THAT'S YOUR CALL, BUT IT'S AVAILABLE TO YOU.

WHATEVER YOU DECIDE.

I HOPE IT IS QUICK AND WHAT SUITS THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT IT'S SOMETHING IN BETWEEN A CASINO AND A CAGE MATCH, AND THE SPECULATION AND THE MISINFORMATION IS JUST GOING TO GROW EVERY DAY THAT WE CONTINUE NOT KNOWING WHAT WE'RE GOING.

WITH REGARDS TO 6.5.

IN REVIEWING THE STATEMENT ON THE 18TH ISSUED BY THE CITY.

IT SAYS A CASE CONCERNED A SERIES OF EVENTS FROM 2019.

AS A RESULT OF THIS DECISION, THE CITY WILL RECOVER MORE THAN 100,000.

FOR MR. PATRIE.

FOR HIS COST IN BOTH LEGAL PROCEEDINGS THAT WAS ISSUED BY THE CITY ON THE 18TH.

IN THE ITEM THAT IS BEFORE YOU THAT DETAILS THE COSTS.

IT LABELS THE CONFLICT-OF-INTEREST COST.

TO DATE OF 599,000 AND ZERO NINE $4.

THERE'S A BIG DISCREPANCY.

AND IN WHAT'S BEING SAID ON THE 18TH AND WHAT'S BEING DISPLAYED BEFORE YOU ON THE PAPER TONIGHT.

WHAT'S PROBLEMATIC FOR THAT? IS IT IN THE JUSTICE'S DECISION THAT WAS RENDERED ON THE 9TH OF JANUARY AND THE APPELLATE JUSTICE DECISION ON THE 15TH? IT STATES THAT COST WILL BE PAID DIRECTLY TO THE FORUM BY MR. PATRIE. I THINK YOU CAN SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING.

THE PUBLIC'S BEEN INFORMED THAT THE COSTS ARE A DIRECT CONSEQUENCE AND RESPONSIBILITY OF A PARTY OTHER THAN THE CITY, AND THE CITY HAS ISSUED A PUBLIC STATEMENT SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ISSUE A RECOVERY FOR $100,000, OR ABOUT THAT AMOUNT.

THE TOTAL COST THAT YOU'RE BEING INFORMED OF TONIGHT IS MUCH MORE THAN THAT.

SO, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ELIMINATE THE CONFUSION AS TO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ONE OR BOTH TWO SEPARATE ISSUES? AND SECONDARY TO THAT IS, HOW DID WE ARRIVE AT THAT FIGURE OF $100,000 OF RECOVERY, IF THAT'S IN FACT WHAT YOU MEANT TO SAY ON THE 18TH? LASTLY, THE IC REPORTS FOR THE COST FOR 2023 FOR MR. SUOZZI ARE LISTED AT $37,100.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE OR TO ANYTHING THAT WE'VE SEEN ON VIDEO OR IN THE COMMUNITY.

THERE HAVE BEEN NO IC COMPLAINTS IN 2023.

THERE HAVE BEEN NO REPORTS IN 2023.

THAT INVOLVEMENT IS SEPARATE THAN WHAT'S ON YOUR REPORTS LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

AND I WILL REFER TO IN THE REPORT THAT.

AS LET'S SEE HERE, THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER'S MAIN FUNCTION IS ADVISORY TO COUNCIL.

AND THIS IS PART OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT AS WELL AS OUR PROCEDURES AT THE END OF IT.

IT SAYS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER IS TO PUBLISH AN ANNUAL REPORT ON FINDINGS OF TYPICAL ADVICE AND COMPLAINT CASES, PROVIDE OUTREACH PROGRAMS TO COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF STAFF.

PROMOTE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF THE OFFICE.

AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS ENACTED SO THAT ANNUALLY, EVERY YEAR THE COMMUNITY WOULD RECEIVE A DETAILED REPORT, NOT OF THE INCIDENTALS OF ANYTHING THAT'S ONGOING, BUT OF THE TOTAL COST AND WHAT THEY WERE CREATED BY, WHETHER IT WAS A CONFLICT, A CODE OF CONDUCT, OR WHATEVER.

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AND THAT'S MY SUBMISSION AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. THOMAS.

SO, THERE ARE NO PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING.

REPORTS ITEM 6.1 UPDATE FROM CITY SOLICITOR REGARDING DIVISIONAL COURT DECISION.

[6.1 Update from City Solicitor]

MAY I HAVE A MOTION THAT THIS ITEM BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION? COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF A SECONDER.

COUNCILOR BULL.

ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY THAT NONE ARE OPPOSED.

THAT'S CARRIED.

ITEM 6.2 REPORT FROM THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS REGARDING CENTENNIAL ARENA TARGETED WOOD STRUCTURE REPAIR.

[6.2 Report from the Acting Director of Public Works]

CAPITAL RESERVE.

A MOVER COUNCILLOR MANN.

SECONDED. COUNCILLOR SEIDEL.

MR. GOULDING, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

YOU'LL SEE A REPORT IN FRONT OF YOU.

SUSPICIOUSLY SIMILAR TO PREVIOUS REPORTS THAT I'VE ISSUED ON THIS MATTER.

I'M TRYING TO KEEP THINGS KIND OF CONSISTENT SO THAT WE CAN TRACK WHAT'S OCCURRING.

SO, WE HAVE COMPLETED THE COMPLETE CANVAS OF THE STRUCTURE.

WE'D FINISHED THAT UP A FEW A FEW WEEKS AGO.

THEY'RE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THEIR DATA THAT THEY'VE COLLECTED TO PREPARE A FULSOME REPORT THAT WILL PRESENT TO COUNCIL THAT GIVES A FULL STATUS OF WHAT THE CONDITION OF ALL THE WOOD ELEMENTS ARE IN THE BUILDING WHILE THEY WERE ON SITE.

BOTH TIMES WE WERE ABLE TO COORDINATE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN CITY FORCES AND THE ENGINEERING TEAM TO TRY AND BEST APPROACH THE PROJECT OVERALL.

SO, THERE'S SOME, BETWEEN MY REPORTING TO YOU AND WHAT'S HAPPENING ON SITE, THERE'S SOME LAG BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, WE WOULD DO MIDDAY REPORTS BACK TO THEIR HOME BASE AND COMPILE DATA AND FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY SHOULD WHERE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING, EVALUATING HOW THINGS ARE GOING ON SITE.

WE'D BE MAKING CHANGES.

EXCUSE ME. AND SO THERE WAS, OVERALL, THERE WAS TWO BIG CHANGES THAT WE TOOK IN APPROACH WHEN AND THEY LED TO PROVIDING A WINTER SHORING DESIGN THAT DEVIATED FROM THEIR INITIAL TEMPORARY SHORING DESIGN.

SO, THE INITIAL TEMPORARY DESIGN SPECIFIED 20 TOWERS PUT IN SPECIFIC LOCATIONS.

AND AS WE WERE REALIZING THAT ON SITE, SOME OF THE LOCATIONS THAT THEY PRESCRIBED ARE REALLY CHALLENGING TO GET ASSURING TOWER UP IN.

THEY WOULD INTERFERE WITH THE MECHANICALS FOR THE UM, THE POOL OR, SORRY, THE ICE RINK ITSELF.

THERE'RE TRENCHES WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF CHILLER LINES THAT GO THROUGH THE PAD, AND WE WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT IN A WAY.

AND THERE'S ROOM.

THERE'RE ROOMS ON EITHER END OF WHAT'S KNOWN AS TRUST ONE ON THE DRAWINGS.

THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO INTO.

SO BASICALLY, IF WE PUT THE TOWERS WHERE THEY PRESCRIBED THE INITIAL DESIGN, WE WOULD BE DOING A LOT OF DEMOLITION THAT WE'D EVENTUALLY PROBABLY HAVE AN APPETITE TO UNDO. SO, IN THEIR WINTER SOARING DESIGN THAT WE'RE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF REALIZING THEY SUGGESTED ADDING SOME TOWERS IN SOME LOCATIONS AND FORGOING THOSE MORE CHALLENGING AREAS BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MORE PRACTICAL TO MAKE REPAIRS TO THOSE TRUSSES RIGHT NOW THAN GO TO THE EXPENSE OF TRYING TO HOLD UP THOSE MEMBERS AND.

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THE RECONSTRUCTION COST TO THE INTERIOR FINISHES THAT I JUST DESCRIBED.

SO, LAST NIGHT WE RECEIVED A QUOTE FROM TIMBER RESTORATION SERVICES, WHICH IS WORDS SISTER COMPANY.

THAT'S THE COMPANY THAT ACTUALLY DOES THE PHYSICAL LABOR FOR RESTORATION OF THE WOOD ELEMENTS.

AND I'VE INCLUDED IT IN THE REPORT TO YOU TODAY.

THEY PROVIDE A BREAKDOWN THAT DETAILS THE VARIOUS EXPENSES THAT THEY ANTICIPATE.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT IT'S A BUDGET ESTIMATE.

IT'S NOT A QUOTE. SO, THAT'S WHY THERE'S A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN WHAT'S IN THE ESTIMATE AND WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING SETTING ASIDE FOR THE PROJECT. OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. GOLDING.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

FOR YOU, TOO, MR. GOLDING.

SO, I REMEMBER ONE OF THE REPORTS THEY HAD SAID THEY'LL GO ALONG AND LOOK AT CERTAIN SITUATIONS, AND IT SOMETIMES IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO SAY, FORGET PUTTING THE TOWER. LET'S FIX IT PERMANENTLY.

YEAH. SO THAT'S SORT OF WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US.

THEY'VE MADE SOME DECISIONS IN THOSE AREAS.

YEAH. SO THAT BEING SAID, FOR THE PUBLIC OUT THERE, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH FAIRLY CONFIDENT THIS ARENA IS GOING TO BE FIXED. WHEN CAN WE TELL THE PUBLIC WELL NOT HOLD YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE I CAN'T SEE US DOING A COMPLETE LET'S FIX THESE BEAMS AND THEN SAY, WELL, SORRY, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.

THANK YOU. THROUGH YOU, MR. CHAIR, THAT'S A REALLY FRANK AND SIMPLE WAY OF.

IT'S BETTER THAN ME DANCING AROUND TRYING TO DESCRIBE THIS.

SO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

AND NOW WATCH ME DANCE, I GUESS.

SO, AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS, I DESCRIBED HOW I REALLY HAD A PREFERENCE TO DEAL WITH THE PROJECT IN A MITIGATION PHASE AND THEN A RESTORATION PHASE.

RIGHT. AND IT WOULD BE VERY CONVENIENT IF WE COULD MITIGATE THE POTENTIAL FOR COLLAPSE, EVALUATE AND THEN MOVE ON.

WELL, SINCE THEN WE'VE LEARNED A BUNCH.

WE'VE LEARNED THAT THIS IS A REPAIRABLE AND ECONOMICALLY REPAIRABLE FACILITY.

IT WOULD BE MORE CONVENIENT ADMINISTRATIVELY IF I HAD WORDS.

FULSOME REPORT TO PRESENT IN ADVANCE OF THIS.

UH, EXCEPT WE'RE MOVING QUICKLY, AND THEY'RE STILL PREPARING THAT.

RIGHT. UH.

I WASN'T THE BIGGEST GAME OF THRONES FAN, BUT WINTER IS COMING, AND WE HAVE TO DECIDE.

DO WE SALVAGE? I MEAN, DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THIS FIXED IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE HAVE COMFORT THROUGH THE WINTER, OR DO WE NOT? SO, THIS IS MORE AWKWARD THAN I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO CLEAVE THE PROJECT INTO TWO PHASES.

AND YOU'VE ASTUTELY NOTED THAT AS SOON AS WE MAKE THE DECISION TO APPROVE THIS WORK, WE'VE KIND OF TIPTOED ACROSS THAT LINE.

RIGHT? BUT I OFFER THE RECOMMENDATION NONETHELESS, BECAUSE ALL EVIDENCE TO THIS POINT INDICATES THAT WE'VE GOT A REPAIRABLE WOOD STRUCTURE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH REPAIRING.

AND THAT'S I BELIEVE THAT'S THE SHORTEST, MOST ECONOMICAL, THE SHORTEST TIMELINE AND MOST ECONOMICAL WAY TO GET A FACILITY UP AND RUNNING.

OKAY. I, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE YOU SAY 100%, BUT YEAH, IN MY LITTLE OPINION, I THINK THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ONE MORE STEP TO GETTING THE ARENA REOPENED.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR MANN.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.

TO MR. GOULDING, I DON'T THINK IT'S AS AWKWARD AS YOU.

AS YOU, AS YOU THINK.

MR. GOULDING, WE HEARD WORD AT OUR LAST COMMITTEE MEETING EXPRESS HOW WOOD STRUCTURES CAN BE SAVED AFTER SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE. AND WE WERE TOLD VERY CLEARLY AT THAT POINT, AND I HAVE NO DISPUTE THAT THEY ARE EXPERTS IN THIS, AND WE HAVE RELIABLE INFORMATION COMING THAT IT'S 80% GOOD AS OPPOSED TO 80% BAD, I BELIEVE IS THE NUMBER THAT HE QUOTED FOR EXAMPLES SAKE.

SO, I THINK AS WE MOVE FURTHER TO SHORING UP THE BUILDING FOR THE WINTER, WHICH IS WHAT TONIGHT REALLY IS ALL ABOUT.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE RIGHT.

WINTER IS EVENTUALLY GOING TO APPEAR.

IT CANNOT WITHSTAND ANY SNOW LOAD AT THIS POINT.

THEREFORE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOES OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT REBUILDING THE ARENA BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING TO REBUILD.

SO, I THINK WE'RE ALL STARTING TO AT LEAST I AM.

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SO, THANK YOU.

AGAIN, IT IS MONEY THAT WE NEED TO SPEND.

IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT FACILITY.

WE DON'T HAVE OTHER PLANS, SHOVEL READY PROJECTS OR ANY OF THOSE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST AVAILABLE.

THEREFORE, WE NEED TO KEEP, MAINTAIN AND SUPPORT WHAT WE HAVE AS WE'RE DOING WITH OUR OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE AND OTHER FACILITIES.

SO, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE SO FAR AND LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THIS ONE STEP CLOSER TO HEARING WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO FINALLY REOPEN THE BUILDING.

SO, THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MORRISSETTE.

THROUGH YOU, MR. CHAIR.

FOR MR. GOLDING, WHEN IS THIS WORK SCHEDULED TO BE DONE? AND WHEN I DROVE BY THE ARENA THE OTHER DAY, I SAW A LOT OF OPEN.

I GUESS SIDING FROM THE OUTSIDE.

WILL THAT CREATE MORE DAMAGE INSIDE THE BUILDING OR IS THAT COVERED? THANK YOU. THROUGH YOU, MR. CHAIR. SO, UPON OUR APPROVAL TONIGHT, ASSURED ME THAT THEY'LL GET GOING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AFTER THE HOLIDAYS THAT THEY MOBILIZE.

THEY'VE TOLD ME THAT THAT TO EXPECT A SCHEDULE OF 4 TO 5 WEEKS FOR THIS, THIS PHASE.

SO THAT BRINGS US TO THE END OF JANUARY BEFORE THESE ELEMENTS ARE REPAIRED.

SO, CITY FORCES WILL BE WORKING ALONGSIDE THEM.

PROBABLY NOT FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THAT TIME, BUT FOR A PORTION OF THAT TIME.

IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING OF IN TERMS OF TIMING.

IN TERMS OF THE SIDING, THE SIDING ON THE ARENA'S BEEN REINSTATED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE AREA ABOVE THE FLAT ROOF OVER THE LOBBY. WE DECIDED ON SITE THAT IT WOULD BE MORE EXPEDIENT TO PUT AIR BARRIER UP AS A TEMPORARY CLADDING. I ANTICIPATE IN THE RESTORATION OF THE FACILITY AS A WHOLE, THAT WILL BE LOOKING AT A NEW SIDING SOLUTION, BECAUSE EVEN BEFORE THESE ISSUES, THE SIDING WAS PRETTY ROUGH ON THAT BUILDING.

IT WAS IT WAS TIME TO DEAL WITH THAT.

AND SO, IT WOULD BE A REAL SHAME TO GET UM.

TO GET THIS PLACE FIXED STRUCTURALLY AND NOT HAVE IT WATERTIGHT AGAIN.

SO, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL BE REPLACING THAT SIDING.

AS FOR ITS SUITABILITY TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE WINTER, WE BELIEVE WE'VE GOTTEN IT TO THE POINT WHERE IT CAN SURVIVE WINTER THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.

COUNCILLOR SEIDEL.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.

JUST A QUESTION TO MR. GOULDING. UM, WHAT HAVE WE DONE RIGHT NOW TO TEMPORARY STOP THE WATER FROM COMING INTO THE BUILDING? THROUGH THE ROOF. THANK YOU.

THROUGH YOU, MR. CHAIR.

SO, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY WRD TO LIMIT LIVE LOAD ON THE ROOF, WHICH IS A FANCY WAY OF SAYING DON'T GO UP ON THE ROOF. SO, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE SOME.

WE HAD TO DO SOME DESTRUCTIVE INVESTIGATION ON THE ROOF SHEETS, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT OFF OF MAN LIFTS FROM THE EAVE, THANKFULLY. SO, WE'VE BEEN REALLY LIMITING OUR WORKERS EXPOSURE TO BEING ON THE ROOF ON ADVICE FROM THE CONSULTANTS.

SO, THE SHORT STORY IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THAT ONCE WE GET THE GREEN LIGHT TO GO UP THERE.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO. THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, JUST MORE OF A COMMENT.

I'D LIKE TO THANK MR. GOULDING FOR THE REPORT AND FOR ALL THE TIME HE HAS PUT INTO THIS AND TO THE STAFF THAT ARE WORKING AT THE ARENA.

AND I THINK BY GOING AHEAD WITH ALL THESE REPAIRS, THAT EVENTUALLY WE WILL GET THAT ARENA BACK OPEN AGAIN AND PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO SKATE AND PLAY HOCKEY AND FIGURE SKATE, AND ALL WILL BE WELL WITH THE WORLD.

OKAY, I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, WITH REGARD TO SHORING UP, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAD ALREADY STARTED PARTLY WITH THAT PROCESS IN CERTAIN AREAS. AND THEN WHEN THIS ONE IS FINISHED BY JANUARY, IT WILL BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE WHOLE LOAD.

THANK YOU.

YES. THROUGH YOU.

YEAH. SO, WE'RE CAUGHT IN A BIT OF.

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I HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE WITH BUILDING, BUT NOT AN ENGINEERING PROFESSIONAL AT ALL.

BUT I'LL DESCRIBE IT TO YOU, THE WAY THAT I UNDERSTAND IT.

AT THE TIME THE CENTENNIAL ARENA WAS BUILT, THE SNOW LOAD REGULATIONS WERE DIFFERENT THAN THEY ARE NOW.

THEY WERE MUCH LIGHTER.

AND SO, THIS IS WHAT HAS TRIGGERED THE REQUIREMENTS POST REPAIR OF THE ARENA.

FOUR YEARS AGO, FOR US TO BE SHOVELING THE ROOF WHENEVER SNOW LOAD GOT MORE THAN 30CM, IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT THE STRUCTURE WAS WEAKER THAN IT ORIGINALLY WAS.

IS THAT THE RULES CHANGED? AND SO, WHEN WORD EVENTUALLY GIVES US A LETTER RECOMMENDING OCCUPANCY, I'M EXPECTING IT TO HAVE CONDITIONS. AND ONE OF THOSE CONDITIONS IS, AGAIN, NO SNOW LOAD GREATER THAN 30CM SO YES, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE HAVE BEGUN SHORING UP THE BUILDING IS MORE STABLE NOW THAN IT HAS BEEN IN RECENT TIMES FOR SURE.

BY MY ESTIMATION, CAN WE HIRE AN ENGINEER TO SAY THAT? NO, PROBABLY NOT.

BECAUSE OF THEIR PROFESSIONAL LIABILITY, THEY NEED TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE COMPLIANT WITH MODERN CODE REGULATIONS IN ORDER TO SAY, YES, THIS IS NOW A STABLE STRUCTURE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REGIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

RIGHT. SO, YEAH, WE'RE KIND OF IN A LIMBO UNTIL WE GET THIS, THESE REPAIRS COMPLETE, THEN THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SAY.

UNEQUIVOCALLY, UNEQUIVOCALLY THAT THE STRUCTURE MEETS THESE CRITERIA.

IT HAS THESE OPERATING THIS OPERATING ENVELOPE, COMPLY WITH IT, AND YOU CAN OCCUPY FURTHER TO AFFECT WHATEVER REPAIRS WE NEED TO DO.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO THAT BEING SAID, YOU PROBABLY CAN'T EVEN GIVE US A GUESSTIMATE OF WHEN WE MIGHT GET THAT INFORMATION.

THROUGH YOU AGAIN, MY GUESSTIMATE IS THE END OF JANUARY, SO THEY WON'T.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THEY WOULD GIVE US THAT LETTER UNTIL THIS WORK IS COMPLETE.

BUT ONCE IT IS, I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THEY'VE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO REVIEW WHATEVER DATA THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO COLLECT.

THEY KNOW WHERE ALL THE SKELETONS IN THE CLOSETS ARE.

RIGHT. AND OUR WORK WILL BE FINISHED THAT WE HAD COMMITTED TO AS THE CITY BY THAT TIME.

SO RIGHT NOW, MY ESTIMATE IS THE END OF JANUARY, FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY.

WE SHOULD HAVE A LETTER IN OUR HANDS TO PROCEED WITH PROJECT IN EARNEST.

OKAY, JUST A COUPLE MORE.

SORRY. YEAH.

ARE WE STILL CONTINUING WITH THE SECONDARY PLANS FOR ALL OTHER PARTS OF THE STRUCTURE TO COINCIDE WITH, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE WITH THE MAINFRAME PART OF IT? MEANING THE ROOF AND ALL THAT? YES. TOO FAR AHEAD FOR THAT.

OR ARE WE CONTINUING AS WE'RE PLANNING? NO, NO. THROUGH YOU AGAIN.

I ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING ON THAT TODAY.

I'M ADMINISTRATIVELY LIGHTING UP OTHER PROJECT MANAGERS TO TRY AND ADOPT A FULL FACILITY REPAIR KIND OF APPROACH.

LIKE I DESCRIBED EARLIER, I PREPARED A GENERAL SCOPE OF WORK AND MOBILIZED A VENDOR TO GET BACK TO US WITH A PROPOSAL.

AND I'LL BE COMING IN JANUARY WITH THAT PROPOSAL FOR COUNCIL TO REVIEW.

SO, BEFORE WE HAVE OCCUPANCY, WE'LL AT LEAST HAVE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AT COUNCIL, TO FIGURE OUT THE NEXT STEPS SO THAT WE CAN KEEP PUSHING FORWARD.

THANK YOU. AND FINAL QUESTION.

ARE WE APPLYING FOR FUNDING AS WE GO ALONG, OR ARE WE WAITING TILL THE END, OR IS THERE OPTIONS FOR STEP GAPS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS FOR FUNDING? THANK YOU. THROUGH YOU AGAIN.

SO, WE CAN.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH I WANT TO SAY RIGHT NOW.

THE VENDOR THAT I'VE HAVE APPROACHED AS A MATTER OF COURSE, UH, HELPS WITH ALL OF THOSE APPLICATIONS, PROCESSES.

SO, IT MIGHT BE A TURNKEY SOLUTION TO OUR PROBLEM, BUT I WON'T COMMENT ON THAT UNTIL I BRING THEIR PROPOSAL FORWARD.

OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH.

UM, ANY FINAL QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. GOULDING. LET'S HAVE A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR? NONE ARE OPPOSED.

THAT IS CARRIED.

ITEM 6.3 HAS BEEN STRUCK FROM THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

[6.3 Memo from the Director of Finance & Treasurer]

[6.4 Report from the Director of Finance & Treasurer]

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THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THAT COUNCIL ADOPT THE 2024 USER FEES AS PRESENTED, AND THAT THE NECESSARY BYLAW BE PLACED ON AN UPCOMING COUNCIL AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION.

SO, MAY I HAVE A MOTION THAT COUNCIL ADOPT THE 2024 USER FEES AS PRESENTED AND THAT THE NECESSARY, NECESSARY BYLAW BE PLACED ON AN UPCOMING COUNCIL AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION? MOVER COUNCILLOR MANN.

SECONDED COUNCILLOR SEIDEL.

MRS. SONNENBERG, PLEASE.

THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

I FEEL LIKE I JUST PRESENTED THIS TO COUNCIL.

I WILL NOT TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME TO REHASH ALL OF THE CHANGES TO THE USER FEE BYLAW.

WE DID A FULSOME JOB OF THAT ON MONDAY NIGHT.

UM, I WOULD JUST REMIND COUNCIL THAT THE PURPOSE IS TO REVIEW ALL USER FEES FOR THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE FOR 2024, AND THE USER FEES THAT WE'LL ADOPT TONIGHT BY BYLAW WILL BE IN EFFECT IF OF JANUARY 1ST.

UH. FOR THE YEAR OF 2024, AND THAT THE 2024 RATES THAT ARE APPROVED TONIGHT WILL ALSO BE CONSIDERED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 2024 OPERATIONAL BUDGET, WHICH WE WILL SEE IN THE NEW YEAR.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THE QUESTIONS? I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILLOR MANN? THANK YOU. WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

JUST A COUPLE OF GENERAL COMMENTS.

FORMAT HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR.

UM, AS STAFF HAVE BROUGHT IN SCHEDULES, I BELIEVE THERE WERE 13 SPECIFIC SCHEDULES INTO THIS.

SO, IN THE EVENT THAT ONE SPECIFIC SCHEDULE NEEDS TO BE REVISED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, THE ENTIRE USER FEE BYLAW DOESN'T NEED TO COME BACK, JUST THAT SPECIFIC SCHEDULE. THIS IS AGAIN, A PART OF MODERNIZING SOME OF THE BYLAWS THAT WE'VE HAD.

I THINK OVERALL, THERE WERE SOME NOMINAL CHANGES COST OF LIVING INCREASE OF APPROXIMATELY 3% OVER SEVERAL PROGRAM AREAS AS A RESULT OF THE INCREASE IN MINIMUM WAGE COSTS.

AND IF I REMEMBER MS. SONNENBURG COMMENTING AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING THAT EVEN THIS 3% INCREASE WILL NOT COMPLETELY COVER THAT INCREASE IN MINIMUM WAGE.

SO AGAIN, SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE REASONABLE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COST THERE IS COST SENSITIVITY WITH ALL OF THESE COSTS TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY.

BUT AGAIN, I WAS HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT AND WILL AGAIN THIS EVENING TO GET THIS APPROVED FOR 2024.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILLOR MANN, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

MORE OF A COMMENT.

YEAH. MS. SONNENBERG EXPLAINED THE QUAKER AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT JUST PRETTY MUCH WHAT COUNCILLOR MANN SAID.

A 3% INCREASE IS VERY REASONABLE, CONSIDERING THAT THE MINIMUM WAGE AND THE COST OF EVERYTHING ELSE GOING UP.

BUT I ALSO NOTICED WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH IT ALL, THERE'S ACTUALLY QUITE A FEW THAT WE DIDN'T EVEN RAISE.

SO, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY VERY FAIR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO. OKAY, SO WE CAN HAVE A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR? NONE ARE OPPOSED.

THAT IS CARRIED.

AND ITEM 6.5, REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND TREASURER.

[6.5 Report from the Director of Finance & Treasurer]

COMMISSIONER FEES 2023.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, TREASURER REGARDING REVIEW OF LEGAL INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER FEES BE RECEIVED AND THAT THIS REPORT BE PUBLISHED TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE WITHIN THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER SECTION.

A MOVER COUNCILLOR BULL.

SECONDED COUNCILLOR MAN.

MS. SONNENBURG, PLEASE DO.

YOUR WORSHIP, THIS REPORT WAS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 20TH OR, SORRY ON OCTOBER 11TH, 2022, TO BE REPRODUCED ANNUALLY AS AN UPDATE.

SO, BEFORE YEAR END, I BELIEVED IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO BRING THIS FORWARD AND IN ERROR.

IT WAS NOT ADDED TO THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY NIGHT, AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SO.

TO THAT I DO APOLOGIZE.

SO, IN THE INTEREST OF ENSURING THAT THIS IS POSTED BEFORE THE END OF 2023, I BROUGHT IT FORWARD TO TODAY'S SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING.

USING THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THIS IN FRONT OF YOU.

THE VERBIAGE IN THE REPORT REMAINS UNCHANGED FOR THE MOST PART, FROM THE REPORT THAT YOU MAY HAVE SEEN LAST YEAR, RIGHT BEFORE YOUR ELECTION.

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FINAL 2022 EXPENSES BY FIRM FOR THE FIVE MAJOR FIRMS THAT ARE USED THAT HAVE INFLUENCED OR HAVE BEEN TOUCHED BY THE IC ISSUES, THERE ARE A FEW OTHER FIRMS THAT THE CITY HAS USED FOR OTHER ACTIVITIES NOT PERTAINING TO THE IC THAT YOU WOULD NOT SEE CONTAINED IN THIS CHART, AS THEY WOULD BE RELATED TO INSURANCE, PROPERTY DISPOSITIONS, AND OTHER HR ISSUES THAT MAY HAVE ARISEN IN THE SUBSECTION OF CALENDAR YEARS PRESENTED BELOW.

IN THAT CHART, I'D LIKE TO STATE THAT AT 1:27 P.M., I FOUND A MINOR ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE TO THE YEAR OF 2022. A FORMULA WASN'T WORKING IN EXCEL.

I'M NOT GOING TO LIE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS.

CORRECTED THAT, AND SO IF YOU'VE PRINTED YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE BEFORE 130 THIS AFTERNOON, THERE'S A MINOR CHANGE CALENDAR YEAR OF 2022.

IT WAS UNDERSTATED FOR THE EXPENSES BY FIRM RELATED TO AIRD BERLIS AND THEN THAT CORRECTION.

TRANSPOSES THROUGH ALL OF THE OTHER CHARTS, SO IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN ONE SPOT IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE THAT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE.

SO, AS WE LOOK AT THAT, EXPENSES BY FIRM CHART ON THE ANALYSIS PAGE, ON AGENDA PACKAGE PAGE 44, WE SEE THAT THE TOTAL OF ALL FIRMS THAT HAVE HAD ANY DEALINGS WITH THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER ISSUES TOTAL $1.9 MILLION.

IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AT ALL OF THOSE FIRMS, AND WE LOOK AT THE EXPENSES BY ACTIVITY FOR THOSE FIRMS, WE HAVE USED ALL OF THOSE SIX FIRMS THAT ARE LISTED THERE FOR INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER AND COUNCIL RELATIONS, GENERAL, LEGAL AND OTHER CONSULTING, PROPERTY SALES AND DISPOSITIONS, HUMAN RESOURCES ADVICE AND CONSULTING, AND FIRE DEPARTMENT COMPLIANCE AND LEGAL ACTION WITHIN THE ONTARIO FIRE CODE.

SO THAT SECOND CHART IS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE THE BLUE NUMBER OF $1.9 MILLION IS REDISPLAYED BASED ON ACTIVITY.

I BRING YOUR ATTENTION BACK UP TO THE TOP LINE, WHICH IS PERTAINING TO INTEGRITY.

COMMISSIONER AND COUNCIL RELATIONS.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT SINCE 2018 IS $1.16 MILLION.

AS WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT $1.16 MILLION, WE TAKE ONE ADDITIONAL STEP TO FURTHER ANALYZE HOW THAT $1.16 MILLION IS DISTRIBUTED AND IT'S DISTRIBUTED, NAMELY BY CONFLICT OF INTEREST SPECIFIC TO, SORRY, CONFLICT OF INTEREST INVESTIGATION SPECIFIC TO COUNCILLOR PATRIE. CONFLICT OF INTEREST INVESTIGATION SPECIFIC TO COUNCILLOR PIERCE, INVESTIGATIONS OF THE CODE OF CONDUCT AND CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

AND IC REPORTS AND GENERAL COUNCIL RELATIONS TO THAT EXTENT.

THE FOLLOWING CHART DETAILS EACH OF THOSE FOUR MAJOR COMPONENTS OF EXPENSE.

AND YOU'LL SEE AGAIN, THE TOTAL IS $1.16 MILLION.

UNDER THE FINANCIAL IMPACT.

I WALK YOU THROUGH THE LEGAL FEES FOR ALL LEGAL FOR THE BUDGET LINES OF CLERK, GENERAL, GOVERNMENT AND BYLAW ENFORCEMENT.

AGAIN, THESE AMOUNTS ARE AFTER HST IS RECOVERED, SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO RELATE THE TWO TOGETHER.

SO PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT OF THE $1.16 MILLION WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THOSE CHARTS ABOVE, THOSE ARE INCLUSIVE OF HST.

AND AS YOU ARE AWARE, THE MUNICIPALITY DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECLAIM HST.

SO, IT'S VERY HARD TO MAKE THE TWO.

I CAN'T MAKE THE TWO NUMBERS MATCH.

SO, THE FINANCIAL IMPACT IS PRESENTED FOR ACTUAL LEGAL.

THE BUDGETS FOR LEGAL ARE THEN PRESENTED, AND THE VARIANCE FROM BUDGET TO ACTUAL.

AND AS WITH ALL UNAUDITED STATEMENTS OF FINANCIAL POSITION AS WELL AS THE AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENT OF POSITION, WHEN THE AUDITORS COME FORWARD AND DO THEIR ANNUAL REVIEW OF OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

WE HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY OVER BUDGET ON LEGAL SINCE 2017, SO THAT IS PRESENTED TO YOU FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES.

AND IF IT IS THE WILL OF COUNCIL, IT WILL BE POSTED AND PUBLISHED TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE WITHIN THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER SECTION AS A REVISION FOR 2023. OKAY.

THANK YOU, MS. SONNENBERG.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

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THIS IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF TAXPAYERS' MONEY.

WELL, IT SURE ADDS UP.

AND A LOT OF US RAN WITH THAT.

AND I KNOW PROBABLY THE MAJORITY OF US WERE SAYING WITH ALL THIS INK AND EVERYTHING, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND BE A NEW COUNCIL AND STOP THIS AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, AS I ADDED IT UP AND I LOOKED AT IT AND EVERYTHING, HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE END OF IT, AND WE CAN MOVE ON.

AND UH, YOU KNOW, THANKFULLY THERE'S NO COUNCILLORS ON THESE CHARTS SITTING HERE.

AND I THINK WE HAVE TO, WELL, WE'VE ALREADY PAID THE MONEY AND IT JUST NEEDS TO CHANGE BECAUSE THAT CAN BE MONEY CAN BE PUT TO INFRASTRUCTURE, THE ARENA, ARTS EVERYWHERE.

SO, WE WILL BE I'M GOING TO NOT PROMISE WE'LL TRY AND BE UNDER BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF COUNCILLOR MANN.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO CORRECT COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF UNDER THE INVESTIGATIONS CHART, THAT $77,000 NUMBER.

I WAS PROBABLY IN THAT, THERE WAS ONE INVESTIGATION ALLEGED AGAINST ME.

IT WAS AN INTERESTING PROCESS.

I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

MY COMMENTS ON THE IC PROCESS HAVE BEEN WELL DOCUMENTED.

I DON'T NEED TO GO INTO IT TONIGHT.

HOWEVER, I WILL SAY THAT IT IS A PLEASURE THAT I'M WORKING WITH THE SIX MEMBERS AROUND THIS TABLE OVER THE LAST YEAR AND I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IN ISSUES THIS YEAR IS RELATIVE TO THAT RELATIONSHIP AND RESPECTFUL WORKING CONDITIONS.

SO, THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR MANN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I PROBABLY. OH, GO AHEAD.

COUNCILLOR BULL.

THANK YOU. THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

JUST MORE OF A COMMENT.

WOULD THAT, OR MAYBE A QUESTION THAT 37,000 FOR 2023, IS THAT PRETTY MUCH COMPARABLE TO 2018, OR WOULD THAT BE JUST BECAUSE WE'RE ALL NEW COUNCILLORS AND WE'VE BEEN.

MAYBE CALLING THE COMMISSIONER FOR.

COMMENTS OR ADVICE OR IS THERE? I DON'T. I'M NOT SURE HOW EXPENSIVE HE IS, BUT.

THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

TYPICALLY, WITH IN COMPARISON TO MUNICIPALITIES OF OUR SIZE, IT'S RECOMMENDED BY OTHER TREASURERS OF ACROSS THE PROVINCE THAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE APPROXIMATELY $35,000 ANNUALLY IN.

EXPENSES RELATED TO THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER.

AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE ANY COUNCILLOR, WHO'S SITTING HERE AT THIS TABLE, TO CONTACT THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER TO ASK QUESTIONS OR INQUIRIES, AND TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS AND TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE MAKING DECISIONS AND SPEAKING WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE AND PARTICIPATING IN COUNCIL DECISIONS WHEN APPROPRIATE.

SO, SOME OF THAT IS ALSO TRAINING.

SO THAT IS QUITE TYPICAL OF WHAT WE WOULD.

BUDGET FOR IN THAT 35 TO UNDER $40,000 RANGE FOR MUNICIPALITY OF OUR SIZE, SO THAT WOULD BE QUITE TYPICAL.

SO, WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD THEN.

PERFECT. THANK YOU.

YES. COUNCILLOR MANN? AGAIN, THANK YOU.

WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO COUNCILLOR BULL'S QUESTION THAT WE WERE EARLY ADOPTERS IN 2018.

AT THE TIME, WE HAD DECIDED ON A SPECIFIC IC.

AT THE TIME THAT CHANGED OVER TIME.

THAT SPECIFIC IC IS BACK TO THE IC WE'RE CURRENTLY USING.

HE HAD A VERY SPECIFIC STYLE ABOUT HIS BUSINESS PRACTICE, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT SOME OF THAT IS RELATIVE TO THE COSTS AS WELL.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I DID HAVE A QUESTION, BUT IT WAS THE SAME THING ALONG THE LINES OF WHEN WE SEEK COUNSELING FROM, UM, THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER OR WHEN HE CAME TO PRESENT, WE PAY FOR ALL THAT.

SO EVEN IN YOUR EDUCATION, I THINK THE WHOLE THING WITH THE IC, IN THEORY, IT'S MEANT TO BE A SAFEGUARD FOR FELLAS LIKE US OR PEOPLE THAT ARE ON COUNCIL.

IF YOU'RE NOT SURE, USE IT.

ASK THE QUESTIONS BUT JUST DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE WEAPONIZED LIKE POTENTIALLY IT'S BEEN IN THE PAST.

AND I'M GOING TO ECHO COUNCILLOR MANN'S COMMENTS, IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH EVERYONE.

TO OUR KNOWLEDGE.

WE HAVEN'T REALLY YOU KNOW, WE'VE USED IT.

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AND I'M PROUD OF THAT EFFORT BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF OUR MAIN THINGS WHEN WE GOT TOGETHER THE FIRST TIME, IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO AVOID THIS INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER AT ALL COSTS.

TAKE THE OTHER ROAD.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO, UM, BUT THOSE ARE SOME BIG NUMBERS THERE THAT HAVE BEEN RACKED UP, AND THAT'S TROUBLESOME. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT REPORT.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, LET'S HAVE A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR? NONE ARE OPPOSED, AND THAT IS CARRIED.

[7. NOTICES OF MOTION]

[8. CLOSED SESSION BUSINESS]

SO, WE HAVE A MOTION THAT COUNCIL PROCEED INTO CLOSED SESSION THE HOUR OF [INAUDIBLE]. ALL IN FAVOR? AND THAT IS CARRIED. OKAY.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION THAT COUNCIL RETURN TO OPEN SESSION AT THE HOUR OF 7:52 P.M.

A MOVER COUNCILLOR MANN.

SECONDED COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF.

ALL IN FAVOR? THAT IS CARRIED.

SO, IN REGARD TO ITEM 6.1, WE HAD FAIRLY LENGTHY DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY SOLICITOR, AND WE HAVE GIVEN DIRECTION. AND THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY AT THE TIME AT THIS TIME.

MOVING ON TO BYLAWS 9.1, BYLAW 20 3-113 BEING A BYLAW TO ESTABLISH USER FEES FOR MUNICIPAL SERVICES

[9.1 By-Law 23-113]

MAY I HAVE A MOTION THAT BYLAW 23-113 BE PASSED? MOVER COUNCILLOR BULL.

SECONDED. COUNCILLOR SEIDEL.

ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THAT CARRIED CONFIRMATORY BYLAW 23-11 FOR BEING A BYLAW TO CONFIRM THE PROCEEDINGS OF COUNCIL AT ITS SPECIAL MEETING

[10.1 By-Law 23-114]

MAY I HAVE A MOTION THAT BYLAW 23-114 BE PASSED? A MOVER. COUNCILLOR FLINTOFF SECONDED.

COUNCILLOR MORRISSETTE.

ALL IN FAVOR? CARRIED. ADJOURNMENT.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION THAT THIS MEETING ADJOURN AT THE HOUR OF 7:54 P.M.? A MOVER. COUNCILLOR MORRISSETTE AND SECONDED COUNCILLOR MANN.

ALL IN FAVOR? NONE ARE OPPOSED. THAT'S CARRIED.

OKAY. THANK YOU EVERYONE.

HAVE A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.