Nov 09, 2020 City Council

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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OK. CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, THIS IS A REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE COUNCIL FOR THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE MONDAY, NOVEMBER 9TH, 2020.

THE TIME IS SEVEN P.M.

. AS FAR AS ROLL CALL, OUR MEMBERS ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COUNCILOR MANN WHO DOES SEND HIS REGRETS THIS EVENING.

AT THIS TIME, IF THERE'S ANY DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

[3. DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST]

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

I DECLARE A CONFLICT ON ITEM FOURTEEN POINT ONE TENTATIVE AGREEMENT WITH QP LOCAL 170 AS MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY ARE MEMBERS OF THE QP LOCAL.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER DECLARATIONS THIS EVENING? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CARRY ON.

THE ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES, FOUR POINT ONE, OCTOBER 26, 2020, REGULAR FOUR POINT TWO

[4. ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES]

CAN I HAVE A MOVER TO ADOPT THE MINUTES? MOVED BY COUNCILOR FINAMORE AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR PEARCE? IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES, ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? LOOK AROUND, I DON'T SEE ANY.

CALL FOR THE VOTE THEN ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED, THANK YOU.

FOUR POINT THREE READING OF RESOLUTION PASSED FOLLOWING THE CLOSED SESSION OF THE OCTOBER 26, 2020 COUNCIL MEETING, MS. BRAY, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THAT THE PROPERTY AT 22 PHILIP WALK BE VESTED IN THE NAME OF THE MUNICIPALITY BY WRITING OFF THE TAXES AND CHARGING THE EDUCATION PORTION BACK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. THANK YOU.

IT'S NO PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING, INTRODUCTION, CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE

[6. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS]

RECOMMENDATION STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 3RD, 2020 BY THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED FOR INFORMATION, CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILOR PATRIE.

SECOND BY COUNCILOR CYR.

MR. HALLOCH, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

YES, THANK YOUR WORSHIP.

SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, BASICALLY, IN SEPTEMBER OF 2012, THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED THE INTENT TO CHANGE THE MISSISSAUGA PROVINCIAL PARK OPERATIONAL STATUS FROM OPERATING TO NONOPERATING BASED UPON LOW OCCUPANCY RATES OF 40 PERCENT RESULTING FOR LOSS OF REVENUE. SO MISSISSAUGA PARK HAD BEEN USED BY BOTH LOCALS AND TOURISTS FROM AFAR SINCE 1965 AND GAINED ITS OFFICIAL REGULATION UNDER THE PROVINCIAL PARKS ACT IN 1973.

WITH THE PARK BEING SUCH AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE REGIONAL HISTORY AS WELL AS OUTDOOR TOURISM AND ATTRACTION TO THE AREA.

THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, THROUGH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, BEGAN WORKING ON A PROPOSAL TO UNDERTAKE THE MANAGEMENT OF THE PARK'S PUBLIC FACILITIES TO DETERMINE IF THE PARK COULD BE OPERATED SUCCESSFULLY.

THE PARK WAS IDENTIFIED AS A REGIONAL ASSET, AND THEREFORE THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE ENTERED INTO A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT IN APRIL OF 2014 TO PROTECT THE PARK AND RESCUE IT FROM NONOPERATING STATUS.

THE AGREEMENT NAMED THE CITY OF LAKE AS THE PARK OPERATOR AND AS SUCH, RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH OPERATIONS, INCLUDING ANY NET LOSSES THE PARK INCURS.

THE MUNICIPALITY ENTERED INTO A FIVE YEAR EXTENSION IN TWENTY EIGHTEEN AND IS CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR INTEREST FROM REGIONAL STAKEHOLDERS IN THE FUTURE OPERATIONS OF MISSISSAUGA PARK AND THE DIRECTION FOR THOSE PARTIES TO WORK TOGETHER TO DEVELOP A MORE SUSTAINABLE PLAN FOR THE PARK.

THIS MAY INCLUDE, BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROGRAMS AND EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES WITHIN THE PARK.

DEVELOPMENT OF NEW ATTRACTIONS WITHIN THE PARK.

OPERATIONAL MANAGEMENT PROFIT OR LOSS SHARING.

SO BASICALLY THE CITY HAS BEEN OPERATING THE MISSISSAUGA PARK FOR SEVEN FULL SEASONS.

IT OPERATES FROM MAY LONG WEEKEND UNTIL OCTOBER 1ST ANNUALLY.

THIS YEAR, THE PARK STAFF, DESPITE THE COVID OUTBREAK AND LATE START TO THE CAMPING SEASON, EXPERIENCED ITS BEST FINANCIAL SEASON.

BUDGET NUMBERS ARE ATTACHED, AS YOU'LL SEE, WITH REVENUE ACCOUNTS UP SIGNIFICANTLY, PARTICULARLY CAMPING PERMITS AND CANTEEN SALES.

ALSO THIS YEAR, THE PARK STAFF CREATED A SURVEY WHICH IS ALSO ATTACHED TO GATHER IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO HIGHLIGHT THE BENEFITS THAT AN OPERATING PARK HAS ON TOURISM NUMBERS WITHIN THE CITY OF LAKE AND ITS IMPORTANCE TO OUR ECONOMY.

SO BASICALLY, THE PARK HAD A TOTAL OF SEVENTEEN THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED FORTY CAMPERS IN TWENTY TWENTY AS WELL AS NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR DAY USE AND FOUR HUNDRED FORTY FOUR BACKCOUNTRY, WITH 52 PERCENT OF THEM TRAVELING FROM SOUTHERN ONTARIO, 13 PERCENT FROM NORTHERN ONTARIO AND 17 PERCENT FROM ELLIOT LAKE, AND SEVEN PERCENT ARE COMING FROM [INAUDIBLE] PROVINCE. THE MAJORITY OF THE CAMPERS STAYED FOR THREE NIGHTS AND CONSISTED OF FOUR FAMILY MEMBERS OR JUST A GROUP OF FOUR PEOPLE.

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HIKING IN NATURE IS TWENTY EIGHT PERCENT OF THE REASON THAT WAS CAPTURED IN THE SURVEY.

RELAXATION IS TWENTY THREE PERCENT.

FAMILY VACATION.

TWENTY ONE PERCENT. CANOEING, FIFTEEN.

FISHING FIVE PERCENT.

AND OTHER REASONS ARE FIVE PERCENT.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS FOR THE SURVEY WAS TO COLLECT INFORMATION ON HOW MANY OF THE CAMPERS STOPPED INTO ELLIOT LAKE AND SPENT MONEY.

AS SEEN IN THE ATTACHED CHARTS, 66 PERCENT OF THE CAMPERS STOPPED FOR SUPPLIES OR TO SEE TOURIST ATTRACTIONS.

ALTHOUGH DIFFICULT TO COME UP WITH THE TOTAL AMOUNT SPENT STAFF IS ESTIMATING A TOTAL IN THE RANGE OF 300000 WAS SPENT BY PARK VISITORS IN TWENTY.

AND BASICALLY, WHEN YOU GO ON TO THE FINANCIAL SECTION, IT'S SHOWING HOW BASICALLY IT'S BROKE DOWN THAT YOU HAD CERTAIN PERCENTAGES IN THE SURVEY OF WHAT THEY SPENT FOR MONEY.

SO BASICALLY JUST AVERAGING IT OUT.

IF YOU WENT FROM A 30 TO A 40, PUT THE AVERAGE OF THE 35 IN THERE.

AND AS YOU SEE ACROSS THE BOARD WITH THE TOTALS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWO HUNDRED AND NINETY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS GIVING IT AN ESTIMATE, JUST TWO HUNDRED NINETY FIVE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED SIXTY FIVE DOLLARS OF ESTIMATED SPENDING FROM THE 2020 SURVEY.

SO BASICALLY, ANY TIME THEY'RE EN ROUTE TO MISSISSAUGA PARK, A LOT OF THEM WERE STOPPING IN ELLIOT LAKE AND SPENDING AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT BUSINESSES.

ALSO BROKE DOWN ON THE ACTUAL SURVEY, WHICH IS A VARIETY ALL THE WAY ACROSS FROM GROCERIES TO ALCOHOL TO SUPPLIES, AND THEN AS WELL SEEING THE TOURIST ATTRACTIONS ALONG THE WAY, WHICH WITH THE CORRIDOR THERE, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL COMING INTO TOWN AND GOING THROUGH THAT WAY. SO BASICALLY, IN SUMMARY, THE STAFF SURVEY CREATED BY MISSISSAUGA PARK PROVINCIAL STAFF PROVES NOT ONLY IS THE PARK AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE REGIONAL HISTORY AND OUTDOOR ACTIVITY, BUT ALSO PROVIDES AN ECONOMICAL BOOST TO THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE AND THEIR TOURIST NUMBERS. THE PARK ATTRACTS VISITORS TO EXIT HIGHWAY 17, TRAVEL NORTH ON KING'S HIGHWAY 108 THROUGH OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY CORRIDOR, WHERE THEY CAN SHOP AT THE LOCAL BUSINESSES, ALTHOUGH NOT MENTIONED IN THE SURVEY, I WONDER WHAT THE PERCENTAGES OF THE PEOPLE THAT RETURN TO CALL THIS THEIR HOME.

SO BASICALLY, AS WE'RE SHOWING AND ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE'VE NOTICED HERE IS SARAH, WHO'S HERE TODAY TO MANAGES THE PARK SATURDAY AND DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB, AS YOU CAN SEE, IN THE ACTUAL 2020 BUDGETS.

BUT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SURVEY OR ANYTHING, I'LL TRY TO ANSWER THEM, AND SARAH'S HERE AS WELL IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I CAN'T ANSWER.

THANK YOU, MR. HOLLOCH, FOR THE DETAILED REPORT.

GOOD TO SEE THAT THE NUMBERS WERE REALLY GOOD THIS YEAR AND EVERYONE STAYED SAFE WHILE IN THE WILDERNESS, BRINGS UP THE QUESTION, IS THERE ROOM TO EXPAND IN THE FUTURE? AND MAYBE THAT WILL BE A POTENTIAL DISCUSSION FOR BUDGET.

I HAVE COUNCILOR PEARCE, AND THEN COUNCILOR FINAMORE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. HALLOCH. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE MS. [INAUDIBLE] AND HER STAFF FOR OUTSTANDING JOB THIS YEAR AND THANK HER IN PARTICULAR FOR THIS REPORT. THIS IS THE KIND OF INFORMATION THAT COUNCIL NEEDS WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE VIABILITY OF VARIOUS PROJECTS.

SO I THINK IT'S REALLY GREAT.

I'M A BIT CONCERNED, MR. HALLOCH, IN LOOKING AT THE REPORT, THE PARK OPERATING COSTS COME DOWN TO ABOUT TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A SHARE.

THE TWO QUESTIONS I HAVE, AND THAT FIRST ONE IS, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE FOUND ABOUT AFTER THE FACT AFTER THIS WAS PUBLISHED, OR IS THE NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS GOING TO COME OFF OF THAT TO BRING IT DOWN TO 18000 INSTEAD OF 27000? THE MOST UPDATED VERSION THAT I HAVE HAS THE 9000 COMING OFF OF THE ACTUAL UNIT.

SO I BELIEVE, IF I'M CORRECT, THAT BROUGHT THE PARK PERMITS UP TO 116 AND THE CANTEEN WAS THE OTHER ONE THAT WENT UP TO THOSE.

SO THIS SHOULD BE THE TOTAL RIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD RIGHT NOW.

SO TOTAL NUMBERS.

THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE, IF I MAY, IS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A YEAR OF TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE FIFTY EIGHT, WHY WOULD YOU BUDGET NINETY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS THE NEXT YEAR? SO ANY TIME WE'RE GETTING INTO WITH THE PARK, OBVIOUSLY AT THE POINT RIGHT NOW, IT'S ONTARIO PARK.

SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, ANYTHING CAPITAL, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE CONTRACTED SERVICES ACCOUNT THAT WOULD GO INTO THE ACTUAL OPERATION BUDGET.

THE REASON WHY IS THE ONTARIO PARKS RIGHT NOW WITH THE AGREEMENT HAS THEIR CAPITAL AND OWNS THEIR CAPITAL. SO WHEN YOU'RE DOING CAPITAL, THAT WOULD STILL BE A CITY OWNED CAPITAL THING. AND SO IT GOES INTO THE OPERATION BUDGET.

SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, NEEDING A TRACTOR OUT THERE, THAT IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME INCREASES ACROSS THE BOARD UP FROM THERE.

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SO BASICALLY, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING UP AT THE PARK PERMITS, YES, GREAT THAT IT WAS ONE HUNDRED SIXTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.

BUT ON THE SAME SIDE AS YOU LIKE TO FOLLOW A FIVE YEAR TREND BEFORE YOU START PUTTING UP NUMBERS LIKE THAT AGAIN, TO SAY YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN THOUSAND AGAIN NEXT YEAR. SO SAFELY TO SAY THEY JUST WENT UP BY 5000, INCREASING THOSE LIMITS TO JUMP AHEAD. BUT IF YOU REALLY FOLLOWED LAST YEAR'S TRENDS AND FOLLOW COURSE, THAT 90000 DROPS A LOT LOWER.

BUT YOU USUALLY FOLLOW THAT FIVE YEAR TREND BEFORE YOU START DOING THAT.

SO YOUR BUDGET PROJECTIONS ARE INCORPORATING CAPITAL COSTS AS WELL AS OPERATING COSTS.

CORRECT. SO THAT WOULD SKEW THE NUMBERS.

THAT WOULD OK, I'M A BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF NEGOTIATIONS WITH FIRST NATION, YOU WERE ATTENDING OR MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

I THINK TRADITIONALLY WE'VE NEVER BEEN THAT HIGH.

AND I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE NUMBERS BROKEN OUT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, SO THAT WE HAVE CAPITAL ON ONE SIDE AND OPERATING ON THE OTHER.

SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO OUR POTENTIAL PARTNERS, THEY KNOW WHAT THE OPERATIONAL COSTS ARE. WE CAN GET INTO A DISCUSSION ON THE ON THE CAPITAL COST, I THINK, IN A SEPARATE DISCUSSION POINT, THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN.

YEAH. AND I COULD SEE THAT.

SO BASICALLY, YOU'D BE LOOKING AT THAT 94 DROPPING BASICALLY BY ABOUT TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO WE'D BE CLOSER TO THE SIXTY NINE THOUSAND TO SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLAR RANGE. BUT YES, I DO AGREE.

SEPARATING. THANK YOU.

COUNCILOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU.

THROUGH YOU TO MR. HALLOCH OR MISTAKE COUNCILOR PEARCE.

THAT'S ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. BUT THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT AND JOB WELL DONE. HOW MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT UTILIZE THE PARK WERE SEASONAL CAMPERS AND WHAT PORTION OF YOU DO YOU THINK THE SEASONAL CAMPERS WERE FROM OTHER AREAS SO THAT IT GIVES PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT MORE PEACE OF MIND, THAT PEOPLE CAME AND STAYED FOR LONG TIMES, WHICH IS THERE'S A LOT OF SINCE THE REPORT WAS RELEASED, I'VE HAD A FEW PHONE CALLS ABOUT PEOPLE THAT WERE OUT OF THE COMMUNITY THAT CAME HERE.

I SAID IT'S ALREADY DONE AND GONE AND THERE WAS NO HARM DONE.

SO LET'S NOT BEAT THAT UP.

BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO HOW MANY OF THE SEASONAL CAMPERS MAY BE FROM OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY AND IF I COULD JUST HAVE THOSE.

SO I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY BY GOING BY THE SURVEY RIGHT NOW, AND SARAH MIGHT HAVE TO JUMP IN. BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGES WITH THE NOW WHEN YOU'RE READING SEASONAL, ARE YOU MEANING THE ONES THAT ARE STAYING JUST FOR TWO OR THREE NIGHTS? OR SEASONAL? STAYING FOR THE WHOLE SEASON. THEY'RE NOT CAPTURED IN THIS.

COME ON UP TO THE MIC.

COME ON HERE, IF YOU WANT, AND SAY YOUR NAME AND GOOD.

OH, YOU'RE GOOD. OK, SO ALL TOGETHER WE HAVE 30 SEASONALS, WHICH 20 OF THEM ARE REGISTERED AND 10 OF THEM ARE NOT REGISTERED BECAUSE WE DO HAVE EXTRA SITES THAT ARE WE'RE CLOSED.

THEY CLOSED IN TWENTY SIXTEEN JUST TO MAKE IT LOOK NICER.

SO THEY ONLY HAD 60 SITES.

SO I'VE BEEN USING THOSE CLOSED SITES AS SEASONALS ALSO.

SO, TEN OF THEM ARE FROM OUT OF TOWN.

SO WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] TO FROM SERPENT RIVER FIRST NATION, ONE FROM [INAUDIBLE] ST. MARIE IN THOSE AREAS.

SO THEY'RE FROM OUT OF TOWN AND THEY COME ON THEIR WEEKENDS OR SPEND THEIR MONTH OR SO THERE. THANK YOU.

COUNCILOR PATRIE. THANK YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS, MS. [INAUDIBLE] IT'S A BANNER YEAR, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS HAD TO WORK YOUR BUTTS OFF TO KEEP UP WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WERE COMING IN THERE.

MY ONLY CONCERN, COUNCILOR PEARCE, COVERED MOST OF IT.

JUST WHEN WE DO GET INTO BUDGETING, I JUST WANT STAFF TO BE COGNIZANT THAT REVENUE HAS ALMOST DOUBLED AND EXPENSES ARE ALMOST DOUBLING.

AND WHEN YOU'RE GOING INTO THAT TRI-PARTY AGREEMENT, WE'VE GOT TO BE VERY CAREFUL.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS THAT INCREASING THAT BUDGET TO DOUBLE WHAT IT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO.

SO IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT FIVE YEARS NUMBERS, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, IS DOUBLING YOUR COSTS AND DOUBLING YOUR REVENUE, WHICH IS A BIG SHIFT.

IN ALL ACTUALITY, YOU WOULD EXPECT IF YOUR REVENUE IS DOUBLING, THAT YOUR COST SHOULD BE ACTUALLY GOING DOWN, NOT DOUBLING.

SO JUST WHEN WE GET TO BUDGET, I'M GOING TO HAVE A FEW EXTRA QUESTIONS, THAT'S ALL.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THANK YOU.

GOOD JOB THIS SUMMER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS REPORT?

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I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

RECOMMENDATION WAS TO RECEIVE.

ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU. SIX POINT TWO REPORT FROM THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER RECOMMENDATION TO DEMOLISH FORTY SIX ONTARIO AVENUE AND 22 PHILIP WALK, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAOS REPORT RECOMMENDATIONS TO DEMOLISH 46 ONTARIO AND 22 PHILIP WALK BE RECEIVED IN THAT THE BUILDINGS KNOWN AS 46 ONTARIO AVE AND 22 PHILIP WALK BE DEMOLISHED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, AND THAT THE ESTIMATED COST OF 70000 BE TAKEN FROM THE WORKING FUNDS RESERVE.

CAN I HAVE A MOVER? MOVE BY COUNCILOR PEARCE? SECOND BY COUNCILOR CYR.

MR. GAGNON, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

THIS IS TO SORT OF CLOSE THE LOOP ON SOME CLOSED SESSION DISCUSSIONS WE'VE BEEN HAVING OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF DEALING WITH THESE TWO PROPERTIES.

THEY'RE BOTH ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER ON PHILIP WALK.

DESPITE THE FORTY SIX ONTARIO LABEL, THE FORMER KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS AND THE WOODLAND PRINTERS BUILDING, BOTH ARE IN PRETTY DIRE SHAPE AND ARE RECOMMENDED BY STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS AND BY STAFF TO DEMOLISH.

THEY CAME TO THE CITY'S OWNERSHIP BY WAY OF TAX SALES AFTER FAILED ATTEMPTS TO SELL THEM FOR THE TAX CANCELATION.

AND THEN UPON FURTHER REVIEW, THE ONE OF THE BUILDINGS IN VERY DIRE SHAPE.

IT'S BEEN ESSENTIALLY CONDEMNED.

WE REMOVE THE STAIRCASE ACCESSING TO IT.

SO IT WOULD BE BEST INTEREST TO DEMOLISH SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, PREFERABLY BEFORE WINTER SETS IN.

THE FUNDS FOR THAT, WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF 70000 WE WOULD BE TENDERING OUT, OF COURSE, SO WE CAN WORRY ABOUT WHERE TO FIND THE FUNDS.

BUT SPEAKING TO THE TREASURER, WE DO HAVE AMPLE FUNDS IN THE WORKING FUNDS RESERVE TO FINANCE THIS OR WE COULD FINANCE IT IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE OR FIND SOME OTHER WAY OF FINANCING IT. BUT THE BUILDINGS CAME TO US IN A STATE THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY ABLE TO DO MUCH WITH. WE CONSIDERED FORTY SIX ONTARIO FOR THE FOOD BANK.

THE PUBLIC MAY REMEMBER THAT DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD.

IT WAS ONLY AT THE ELEVENTH HOUR WE DETERMINED THAT THERE WERE SOME STRUCTURAL ISSUES, LESS ABOUT THE ROOF FOR A CHANGE, MORE ABOUT THE WALK WALLS THAT WOULD REQUIRE AT LEAST ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN REPAIRS.

GIVEN THIS VERY SMALL STATE OF THE BUILDING, VERY LITTLE, YOU KNOW, PARKING, IT MAY BE JUST, YOU KNOW, IN THE BEST INTEREST TO DEMOLISH THEM BOTH AT THE SAME TIME AND HAVE SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE. THANK YOU, MR. GAGNON. JUST FOR CLARITY, THESE AREN'T ON TWO DIFFERENT STREETS, CORRECT? NO, FOR WHATEVER REASON, I'M NOT SURE WHY 46 ONTARIO MAKES IT SOUND LIKE IT'S ON ONTARIO.

IT'S ACTUALLY FACING PHILIP WALK.

IT WAS, I'M TOLD, THE KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS FOR SOME TIME, BUT IT'S WOULD BE BETTER NAMED AS PHILIP WALK AND TWENTY TWO.

AND THEY'RE BOTH VERY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME BUILDING, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER BUT ROUGHLY THE SAME BUILDING WOULD BE RELATIVELY EASY TO, TO KNOCK THEM BOTH DOWN. AND THEN WE MAY NEED A LITTLE BIT OF REPAIRS TO ONE OR BOTH OF THE NEIGHBORING BUILDINGS, BUT THEY SHOULD BE, THEY SHOULDN'T BE JEOPARDIZED BY THE DEMOLITION, IS WHAT I'M TOLD BY THEIR ENGINEERS.

AND IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THESE WERE NOT MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS THAT WERE LEFT TO GET TO THIS STATE. THEY CAME TO US IN THIS STATE AND NOW WE ARE LEFT TO DEAL WITH IT, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATELY WHAT HAPPENS OFTEN WITH TAX SALES.

BY THE TIME WE'RE INVOLVED, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE FROM TWO TO FOUR YEARS OF NEGLECT BY THE TIME WE WERE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THE BUILDING.

THANK YOU. COUNCILOR PATRIE.

I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND CHANGE THE SECOND LINE IN THE RECOMMENDATION TO BE DEMOLISHED AS SOON AS PRACTICAL AS OPPOSED TO AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THE REPORT SAYS IT'S PRACTICAL.

IT'S GOT TO BE TENDERED.

IF WE'RE WORDING THIS THAT IT'S AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, WE'RE MAKING IT SOUND A LOT MORE DIRE THAN IT IS, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO HAVE ENGINEERS THAT HAVE TOLD US THAT THEY SHOULD BE DEMOLISHED. THEY'RE NOT WORTH TRYING TO SAVE, BUT.

I'M IN FAVOR OF DOING IT, BUT ONLY WITH THAT WORDING TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE ENGINEERS HAVE RECOMMENDED TO DO IT AS SOON AS PRACTICAL.

SO I WOULD LIKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IF THE MOVER AND SECONDER WOULD BE.

MOVER AND SECONDER OK WITH THAT WORD CHANGE? YEAH, GET. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ABOUT THIS REPORT? OK. COUNCILOR TURNER.

THANK YOU, WORSHIP.

MR. GAGNON, JUST WONDERING THERE'S A NEW BUSINESS ACTUALLY RIGHT ON PHILIP WALK, AND IT ABUTS ONE OF THESE BUILDINGS.

HAVE WE MADE ANY CONTACT WITH PEOPLE ON THE STREET? THEY HAVE ANY KIND OF HEADS UP THAT THIS MIGHT BE COMING?

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BUT WE WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF THEM IN THE DEMOLITION AND WE'LL REACH OUT TO THEM. YEAH. AND JUST THINKING OF THE INTERRUPTION IN BUSINESS, IF THAT MIGHT HAPPEN. I SUSPECT IT MIGHT.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU, THROUGH YOU TO MR. GAGNON. I WAS GOING TO ASK A SIMILAR QUESTION.

MY QUESTION WAS IF ANYONE WAS LIVING IN THE OTHER TWO BUILDINGS ON EITHER SIDE, IF THEY MAY NEED TO BE RELOCATED FOR A FEW DAYS WHILE THE DEMOLITION HAPPENS? JUST FOR SAFETY'S SAKE.

I KNOW THE ENGINEERS REPORTS SAY IT'S SAFE, BUT JUST TO BE CAUTIOUS, JUST TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. I CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT WHEN I REACH OUT TO THEM.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S MUCH IN THE WAY OF RESIDENTIAL IN THOSE NEIGHBORING BUILDINGS, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT HAPPENING.

SO WE'LL CERTAINLY FIND OUT.

YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE, THEN, ALL IN FAVOR? AS AMENDED, YES.

THAT'S CARRIED. SIX POINT THREE REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS ENHANCEMENT TO THE CITY OF LAKES TRANSIT SERVICES HAS RECOMMENDED THAT STAFF REPORT DATED NOVEMBER 4TH, 2020. THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL APPROVES THE RETURN TO REGULAR SCHEDULED HOURS OF TRANSIT SERVICE ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY EVENING, STARTING DECEMBER OF 2020.

AND THAT COUNCIL APPROVES THE START UP OF SUNDAY TRANSIT SERVICE, COMMENCING THE FIRST SUNDAY IN DECEMBER OF 2020.

AND THAT COUNCIL APPROVES THE INSTALLATION OF A BUS STOP ON HORNE WALK IN THE AREA WHERE HORNE WALK MEETS UP WITH CHARLES WALK IN THE LOWER PLAZA, AND THAT COUNCIL APPROVES A LAUNCH OF THE APPLICATION CALLED WHERE'S MY BUS TO ELLIOT LAKE RESIDENTS STARTING IN THE NEW YEAR. CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE.

MOVED BY COUNCILOR CYR, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR PEARCE.

THANK YOU FOR THIS, MR. HALLOCH. I JUST WANT TO MENTION THE WHERE'S MY BUS, I BELIEVE IS ONE OF THOSE GREAT, SMART CITY INITIATIVES I'M GLAD TO SEE COMING FORWARD.

SO I'LL HAND IT OVER TO YOU, MR HALLOCH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

AGAIN, BACKGROUND FOR EVERYBODY IS THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE CURRENTLY PROVIDES BOTH CONVENTIONAL AND SPECIALTY TRANSIT SERVICE TO THE RESIDENTS OF ELLIOT LAKE.

BOTH SERVICES ARE DELIVERED FOLLOWING THE SAME WEEKLY SIX DAY SCHEDULE, WHICH NORMALLY HAS THE BUSSES OPERATING FROM SEVEN A.M.

TO NINE P.M.

ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY OF EVERY WEEK.

IN MARCH OF TWENTY TWENTY, THE COVID PANDEMIC WAS ANNOUNCED BY THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, FORCING MUNICIPALITIES TO FOLLOW DIRECTION GIVEN BY THEIR LOCAL HEALTH UNITS TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.

THIS ALLOWED STAFF FROM THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE TO TAKE MEASURES TO ENSURE THE PRACTICE OF PHYSICAL DISTANCING, AS WELL AS SUPPLYING CERTIFIED PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT AND VERIFYING PROPER DISINFECTION PROCEDURES WERE FOLLOWED FOLLOWING THE STEPS TAKEN BY THE ONTARIO PUBLIC TRANSIT ASSOCIATION, THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE INSTALLED PLEXIGLASS BARRIERS ON ALL THEIR CONVENTIONAL BUSSES, REDUCED THE REGULAR SCHEDULED HOURS OF SERVICE ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY EVENING, SUPPLIED PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT TO BOTH THE DRIVERS AND PASSENGERS AND OFFERED FREE TRANSIT SERVICES.

ALL THESE MEASURES TAKEN REDUCED THE HANDLING OF MONEY AND IN-PERSON RENEWAL OF BUS PASSES AND PROTECTED BOTH THE DRIVER AND PASSENGERS FROM SPREADING THE COVERED VIRUS IF INFECTED OR POTENTIALLY.

WITH THE HOLIDAY SEASON FAST APPROACHING AND THE EXISTING BUSINESSES, AS WELL AS TWO NEW BUSINESSES IN THE PEARSON PLAZA OPENING, STAFF IS REQUESTING TO RETURN TO THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED HOURS OF OPERATION, WHICH IS TO NINE P.M., WHERE CURRENTLY THE BUSSES ARE ARE FINISHING AT SIX P.M.

ON BOTH THURSDAY AND FRIDAY EVENINGS.

AT THE SAME TIME, STAFF IS REQUESTING THE START OF SUNDAY TRANSIT SERVICE FROM EIGHT THIRTY A.M. TO FOUR THIRTY PM, ALLOWING THE RESIDENTS OF ELLIOT LAKE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING SINCE THE PANDEMIC HIT.

WITH ALL THE PROCEDURES IN PLACE AND BEING FOLLOWED PROPERLY, TRANSIT STAFF REMAIN CONFIDENT THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE OF BEING AFFECTED BY POTENTIALLY INFECTED IF THERE WAS A POTENTIALLY INFECTED PASSENGER WITH ALL THE RULES BEING FOLLOWED.

AFTER READING REQUESTS TO INSTALL, ALSO ON ANOTHER NOTE, AFTER READING A REQUEST TO INSTALL A TRANSIT STOP IN THE LOWER PLAZA, I CONTACTED STAKEHOLDERS TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANY CONCERNS BY THE TRANSIT DRIVERS IN REGARDS TO DRIVING IN THE LOWER PLAZA.

WITH NO CONCERN, CITY STAFF DETERMINE THE BEST AREA TO INSTALL A NEW STOP WOULD BE ON HORNE WALK, WHERE IT MEETS UP WITH CHARLES WALK HANDED OUT EVERYBODY A LITTLE MAP THERE, BECAUSE NORMALLY RIGHT NOW THEY THEY STOP AT THE ACTUAL REXALL CENTER UP ABOVE AND THE FAMILY HEALTH TEAM, THAT'S THE ONE STOP.

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SO WE'VE COME UP WITH THE SPOT DOWN ON CHARLES WALK AND WHICH WOULD BE JUST A MATTER OF THE BUS GOING DOWN AND AROUND.

AND ACTUALLY IT'S A SPOT THAT WON'T BE SO BUSY FOR TRAFFIC AND STUFF TO PICK UP.

AND IT'S ALWAYS ON THE DOOR SIDE, WHICH WE COULD LATER PAINT LINES AND STUFF TO ADD IF WE GO WITH THAT. AND AS WE DISCUSS LATER ON WITH SOME OF THE FUNDING MONEY COMING, WE COULD DECIDE IF THE SPOT WORKS SO GOOD THAT WHETHER WE NEED TO PUT ANOTHER SHELTER OR SOMETHING, THAT COULD BE A GOOD SPOT AS WELL, BUT A PERFECT SPOT CENTRALIZED DOWN IN THE LOWER PLAZA FOR THE ACTUAL PASSENGERS DOWN THERE.

BASICALLY, LASTLY, THE CITY OF LAKE PURCHASED A SOFTWARE PROGRAM CALLED GOGPS THAT TRACKS THE CURRENT LOCATION OF EACH BUS IN OPERATION.

RECENTLY, IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT THE PURCHASE OF THE GOGPS SOFTWARE HAS AN APPLICATION CALLED WHERE'S MY BUS? SO THAT THE CITY HASN'T BEEN UTILIZING, WHICH, WHEN ACTIVATED, ALLOWS TRANSIT PASSENGERS TO ACCESS THE APP WITH THEIR PHONE OR HOME COMPUTER TO VERIFY THE LOCATION OF THE BUS AND DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S ON TIME OR DELAYED.

SO A LOT OF TIMES THIS COULD HELP IN THE WINTER OR ANY OTHER TIME.

IF SOMEBODY IS GOING OUT THERE, IT'LL GIVE THE CURRENT LOCATION OF WHERE THE BUS IS ALONG THE ROUTE. SO IF THERE IS ANY DELAYS OR ANYTHING FROM THERE, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY'S ALREADY BEEN PAYING FOR WITH THE GPS.

SO NOW IT'S JUST A MATTER OF IF APPROVED AND WE COME UP WITH THE PERFECT DATE, IT'LL JUST BE SOMETHING THAT WE LAUNCHED THAT GOES OUT THERE SO THAT PASSENGERS DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET ON TO THE SITE AND ACTUALLY FOLLOW TO SEE WHERE THE BUSSES ARE AT ALL TIMES.

SO BASICALLY, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF THESE, SO CURRENTLY THE CITY HAS BEEN OFFERING FREE TRANSIT SERVICE TO ALL PASSENGERS FOR REASONS STATED ABOVE.

WHEN TOTALING THE LOST OF REVENUE, CLEANING SUPPLIES, PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT, INSTALLATION OF PLEXIGLASS, AND EXTRA HOURS PAID TO STAFF FOR BOTH ADMINISTRATION AND CLEANING CITY CAME UP WITH THE TOTAL OF ONE HUNDRED TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM APRIL 2020 TO SEPTEMBER OF 2020.

THIS ENTIRE COST WAS COVERED BY COVID RELIEF FUND THAT WAS OFFERED BY THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH ALSO ASKED STAFF TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON FORECASTED LOSSES UNTIL MARCH OF TWENTY TWENTY ONE, WHICH IS ALSO BEING SUPPLIED TO THEM BY STAFF ALREADY.

SO BASICALLY, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT RUNNING THE SERVICES, SO WHEN IT COMES TO RUNNING A 12 HOUR AND I SHOULD PROBABLY PUT IN EIGHT HOUR SUNDAY SERVICE, THE COST TO THE CITY WOULD INCLUDE TWO CONVENTIONAL BUSSES AND DRIVERS.

I'VE GOT THE COST DOWN THERE, PLUS THE COST OF THE SPECIALTY BUS THAT ALWAYS MIRRORS THE OTHER ONE. SO IT WOULD BE FOLLOWING THE SAME HOURS, THE EXTRA CLEANING HOURS PLUS, THE FUEL THAT WOULD BE CONSUMED BY ALL THREE BUSSES, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY FIGURED OUT AHEAD OF TIME. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL COST OF ABOUT ONE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED SEVEN DOLLARS PER DAY OR FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED ANNUALLY, WHICH WOULD HAVE TO BE BUDGETED FOR IN THE 2021 OPERATION BUDGET.

SO BASICALLY, ON THE LAST ITEM, WHEN IT COMES TO FINANCIALLY FOR THE GOGPS, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT LAUNCHING IT.

THERE'S NO COST. WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR IT, SO THERE WON'T BE ANY EXTRA COST TO THAT.

SO IN SUMMARY, WITH ALL THE PROTOCOLS IN PLACE FROM PHYSICAL DISTANCING TO PROPER PPE PLEXIGLASS INSTALLED AND THE EXTRA EFFORT PUT TOWARDS ENSURING PROPER DISINFECTION, LIKE I SAID, TRANSIT STAFF BELIEVES THAT DECEMBER WILL BE A GOOD TIME TO RETURN TO REGULAR SCHEDULED HOURS, AS WELL AS THE ADDITION OF SUNDAY SERVICE.

THIS WILL GIVE PASSENGERS MORE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THE SERVICE AND HELP BOOST THE LOCAL ECONOMY BY SHOPPING AT LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE, LIKE I SAID, BEEN STRUGGLING SINCE THE PANDEMIC STARTED.

ALSO BY ADDING A NEW TRANSIT STOP IN THE LOWER PLAZA AND ACTIVATING THE WHERE'S MY BUS APPLICATION PASSENGERS CAN ENJOY A BETTER EXPERIENCE WHEN UTILIZING BOTH THE CONVENTIONAL SPECIALTY TRANSIT SERVICES OFFERED TO THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE FOUR, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH, FOR THE DETAILED REPORT.

START WITH COUNCILOR CYR.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THROUGH YOU.

I'M EXTREMELY EXCITED TO HEAR THIS.

I'VE BEEN ASKING COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THIS FOR FIVE OR SIX YEARS, SO I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT THIS IS FINALLY COMING TO THE FRONT.

THANK YOU TO THE STAFF FOR GETTING THIS DONE.

AND THANK YOU TO COUNCIL.

IN THE CITIES, SUNDAYS IS USUALLY THE THIRD TO FOURTH BUSIEST DAY OF THE WEEK FOR MOST BUSINESSES, AND NOW ELLIOT LAKE, YOU KNOW, IN MY EXPERIENCE, SUNDAY IS BY FAR THE WORST DAY OF THE WEEK. SO JUST THIS ALONE WILL HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON EVERY ONE OF THE RETAIL BUSINESSES IN THE CITY.

SO I THINK COUNCIL SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER THAT, HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS.

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THIS IS A WIN WIN FOR THE CITIZENS AND EVERY BUSINESS IN THE CITY.

THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THINGS THAT THIS CITY COULD HAVE DONE TO HELP EVERY BUSINESS IN ELLIOT LAKE, SO I COMMEND EVERYBODY ON FINALLY GETTING THIS DONE.

THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

THANK YOU. IF IT WASN'T COVID GOING ON RIGHT NOW, I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF SUNDAY SERVICE. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE THAT OPEN ON SUNDAYS TO WORK HAVING A BUS SERVICE EXCEPT FOR A FEW STORES.

I HOPE THE BUSINESSES TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS AND OPEN ON SUNDAYS.

IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE, THERE'S A COUPLE OF PHARMACIES THAT ARE OPEN AND LIQUOR STORE AND THERE'S NOT MUCH ELSE OPEN ON A SUNDAY.

IT'S PRETTY DEAD DOWN THERE.

SO I'M HOPING THAT SOME OF THE BUSINESSES WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE COVID WILL THE FUNDS WILL COVER THE COST OF IT. SO I'M HOPING THAT WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AFTER/WHENEVER THINGS GO BACK TO OUR NEW NORMAL, WHATEVER THAT IS, THIS MAY BE OUR NEW NORMAL, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT MY OTHER QUESTION IS FOR THE TRANSIT, THE SPECIALIZED TRANSIT ON A SUNDAY WHO MONITORS THAT? I KNOW THAT THROUGH OUR CONTRACTOR THAT PEOPLE PRE-BOOK THEM.

SO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE AWARE TO PRE-BOOK TWO DAYS IN ADVANCE BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE THEY THEY PRE-BOOK SATURDAYS ON FRIDAYS.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT THAT'S HOW IT WORKS, THAT THE CONTRACTOR IS GOING TO HAVE TO BOOK FRIDAYS FOR SUNDAYS AS WELL.

AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PART OF THE WHERE'S MY BUS? IF THAT CAN BE ADDED TO IT, MS. VLAHOVICH MIGHT KNOW BETTER. BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT SUNDAY SERVICE WITH THE SPECIALIZED TRANSIT, HOW IT WON'T BE SOMETHING SPONTANEOUS THAT SOMEONE CAN DECIDE TO USE ON A SUNDAY. IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S PRE-BOOKED.

SO MAYBE SOMEONE COULD TELL ME WHETHER THAT CAN BE PART OF THE WHERE'S MY BUS OR WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON SUNDAYS AS FAR AS THAT IS CONCERNED.

JUST ON THE PART THAT EVERYBODY WAS CONTACTED, ALL THE, UH, THE CONTRACTORS, THE BUS SERVICES TO GO THROUGH IT.

SO ONE OF THE BIG THINGS IS GETTING ADVERTISEMENT OUT RIGHT AWAY AND GETTING THIS THROUGH AS QUICK AS WE CAN SO WE CAN GET IT OUT TO ADVERTISE THAT EVERYTHING WILL BE TO LAUNCH THAT AHEAD OF TIME. AND THEN I BELIEVE THEY DIDN'T BRING UP ANY CONCERNS LIKE THAT.

SO I'M NOT SURE IF THEY JUST HAVE SOMETHING ALREADY IN PLACE THAT THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND DO. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN DEFINITELY ASK.

BUT IT WASN'T A CONCERN BROUGHT UPWHEN I DID MENTIONING.

SO EVERYBODY WAS ALL ON BOARD AND NOT TO WORRIED AT THAT POINT.

BUT I COULD DEFINITELY BRING THAT UP AND SEE IF IT IS A CONCERN.

SO I'M THINKING THEY MUST HAVE SOMETHING IN MIND.

FOLLOW UP? ONE FOLLOW UP.

SO WHEN THE PERIOD IS OVER THAT COVID FUNDS ARE NOT COVERING TRANSIT ANYMORE, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL BE HAVING A BIGGER DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

BUT I'D ALSO LIKE AT THAT TIME TO REVIEW THE SUNDAY USER, WHICH WE NOW ARE CAPABLE OF TRACKING MUCH BETTER. SO I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THAT AND HOW MANY ACTUALLY USE IT ON SUNDAYS.

AND SO COUNCIL KNOWS AHEAD OF TIME AND IT WON'T BE THE MOST EFFICIENT AT THE BEGINNING.

BUT WE'LL BE WATCHING THE SEE THE NUMBERS BY ASKING THE DRIVERS AT THE BEGINNING AND GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH THE SOFTWARE COMPANY TODAY.

AND EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE INSTALLED JUST BY THE WAY IT LINES UP, THOUGH, IT'S ALL BEEN INSTALLED, UNFORTUNATELY, IN FEBRUARY.

BUT IT'S ALL INSTALLED AT THEN.

SO THAT HELPS US TRACK THAT ACROSS AT THAT POINT.

BUT WE ARE GOING TO TRACK IT SO A BUS DRIVER WILL BE ABLE TO TELL US EASILY IF IT'S JUST NOT BUSY OR IF IT IS BUSY.

AND THEN WE CAN COME UP WITH WAYS OF JUST TRYING TO PROMOTE IT BETTER TO SEE IF CAN GET PEOPLE OUT, BUT IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO CATCH ON.

I AGREE. COUNCILOR PATRIE.

I'M HAPPY TO SEE THE SUNDAY SERVICE START BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR IT, IT'S THE BEST WAY FOR US TO DO THE TRIAL RUN.

I'M MORE CONCERNED.

WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR YEARS AS A COUNCIL TO GIVE US RIDERSHIP NUMBERS.

OUR CONTRACTORS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE MAKING SURE THAT THEY WERE KEEPING TRACK, SO WE'RE UNTIL THE SOFTWARE COMES, I GET IT.

THE SOFTWARE IS AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO DO IT FOR US.

BUT HAS OUR CONTRACTOR BEEN GIVING US THAT TRACKING SO THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT BUDGETING THIS IN TWENTY, TWENTY ONE IN OUR NEW BUDGET?

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SO THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SUNDAY SERVICE, WHILE IT'S NOT ON OUR DIME, WHILE THE PROVINCE'S FUNDING OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM IS THE BEST TIME TO GET THOSE NUMBERS TO START IT.

THERE'S A TON OF REASONS WHY PEOPLE USE TRANSIT.

IT'S NOT JUST FOR SHOPPING, THERE'S SOCIAL THERE'S SUNDAY CHURCHES.

THERE'S A TON OF REASONS WHY I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO SEE THAT SUNDAY TEST.

SO IT WORKS BEST THAT WE AND WE'VE APPLIED FOR FUNDING TO TRY AND DO THIS AS WELL.

LIKE WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THESE NUMBERS.

BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW, DO WE HAVE NUMBERS FROM OUR CURRENT CONTRACTOR THAT WE CAN GET SOME NUMBERS IN THE BUDGET WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THIS? WE HAVE NUMBERS NOW.

WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE INEFFICIENT IS THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT USE THE BUS COME BACK ON THE BUS WITH A PASS.

IT'S THOSE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE GETTING REDUCED NUMBERS.

IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

NO, WE KNOW THE NUMBER. WE KNOW THE MONEY.

MONEY ISN'T THE ISSUE. IT'S THE RIDERSHIP.

WE WANT THAT RIDERSHIP.

SO REGARDLESS, WHEN SOMEBODY COMES BACK ON THE BUS, IF SOMEBODY TAKES THE BUS FOUR TIMES IN A DAY WITH A PASS.

IT'S STILL RIDERSHIP.

SO I KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, CORRECT, AND THAT'S WHY THIS SOFTWARE IS GOING TO GIVE US MORE EFFICIENT NUMBERS, IS WHAT I-- BUT TO ME, ANYBODY THAT'S GETTING ON THE BUS IS A RIDER, WHETHER THEY'RE PAYING OR NON-PAYING FOR.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED AS A COUNCIL BECAUSE OUR TRANSIT COSTS THE TAXPAYERS IN GENERAL.

SO I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE RIDERSHIP IS.

WE KNOW OUR TREASURER IS GOING TO TELL US AT THE END OF THE YEAR WHAT WE BROUGHT IN.

THAT GROSS IS THE GROSS NO MATTER HOW WE MADE THAT MONEY.

I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON THOSE BUSSES EVERY DAY TO SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT, WHETHER WE SHOULD BE EXPANDING, WHETHER WE SHOULDN'T BE.

AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPERATIVE THE COUNCIL GETS THIS RIDERSHIP QUANTIFICATION.

COUNCILOR PEARCE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.

I'M VERY, VERY PLEASED THAT THE SUNDAY SERVICE IS FINALLY IN, GOING TO BE COMING TO FRUITION. I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR CYR.

I THINK BUSINESS PEOPLE ARE USUALLY FAIRLY INTELLIGENT AND THEY KNOW WHICH WAY THE MARKET GOES. AND IF THEY KNOW THAT THER'RE GOING TO BE PEOPLE THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO OPEN.

IF THEY'RE NOT OPEN NOW, THEY WILL LOOK AT IT IF IT'S THEIR WORTHWHILE.

I'M ESPECIALLY PLEASED THAT WE HAVE PUT A BUS STOP ON THE LOWER PLAZA.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT AN AWFUL LOT OF THE BUSINESSES DOWN THERE THAT CURRENTLY COULD COULD USE THAT.

I WOULD ECHO WHAT COUNCILOR PATRIE JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THE CHURCHES.

I KNOW THAT I'VE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF PASTORS IN TOWN, AND THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BOTHERED THEM, IS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE SERVICE, PARTICULARLY FOR SOME OF THE ELDERLY PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE ABILITY TO RIDE, AND THEY COULDN'T MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO GET TO CHURCH AS OFTEN AS THEY'D LIKE TO.

SO I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE NUMBERS GOING FORWARD.

I HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW THAN PERHAPS COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

I WOULDN'T MIND SEEING THIS EXTENDED FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

IN FACT, I WOULD EVEN ARGUE THAT CONTINUING NONPAYMENT OF TRANSIT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR THIS COMMUNITY. BUT WE CAN HAVE THAT ARGUMENT ANOTHER TIME.

THANK YOU. COUNSELOR CYR.

THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GOOD POINTS RAISED, THE ONE THING AND MAYBE IT'S BEEN MENTIONED, BUT I MAY HAVE MISSED IT, WILL WE BE ADVERTISING THE LAUNCH OF THIS IN MEDIA NEWSPAPERS JUST SO THAT THE CITIZENS WILL GET AN IDEA, JUST, YOU KNOW, IN ALL FAIRNESS, SO THAT IF THEY KNOW, THEY'LL USE IT. SECOND, THE SOFTWARE, THE DATA, CAN IT GIVE US HOURLY THAT OUR HOURLY USAGE, DAILY USAGE, LIKE HOW FLEXIBLE IS THIS DATA, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IN THE END WE CAN DECIDE ON TWEAKING HOURS.

YOU KNOW, IF WE KNOW WE'RE ONLY GETTING FIVE RIDERS BETWEEN EIGHT AND TEN.

WELL, THEN, YOU KNOW, OR, YOU KNOW, HOURLY IS IMPORTANT, TOO, JUST AS FAR AS MODIFYING HOURS, EXTENDING HOURS.

I THINK IF WE COULD FIND OUT ON THAT, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR LONG TERM PLANNING.

SO THOSE ARE MY ONLY COMMENTS.

OK, YEAH. TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST ONE.

YEAH, 100 PERCENT. SO AS SOON AS COUNCIL WE DECIDE ON AN APPROVAL TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO BE LAUNCHING SOMETHING RIGHT AWAY SO WE CAN GET THAT INTO THE PAPER AND ACROSS THE WEBSITE TOO AS WELL.

SO WE'LL BE PROMOTING THAT IN THE TRANSIT SERVICES RIGHT AWAY AS WELL TOO.

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ON THE OTHER THING. YEAH, THE INFORMATION CAPTURED IS HOURLY, DAILY EVERYTHING.

A LOT OF INFORMATION AT OUR FINGERTIPS.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE REASON WHY, IS BECAUSE YOU COULD DETERMINE WHAT STOPS ARE EVEN BEING USED AND IF THEY'RE NOT BEING USED.

AND THEN ONCE WE GET THE FUNDING MONEY AND YOU REALLY LOOK AT THE TRANSIT SYSTEM, THEN YOU COULD DECIDE ON THOSE BUSIER DAYS AND WHETHER THERE'S A SMALLER BUS MIRRORING SOMETHING THAT'S COMING ALONG THERE ON THE DAYS THAT IT'S REALLY PACKED AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHAT WILL BE DECIDED AT THOSE POINTS WHEN YOU WHEN YOU REALLY PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER. SO, YEAH, IT'S GOING TO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP, COUNCILOR CYR? YES. THANK YOU, WORSHIP. I DID FORGET ONE THING.

THE OTHER COMMENT IS IN SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR FROM NOW, IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF DO FOLLOW UP SURVEYS WITH BUSINESSES AND CHURCHES AND ORGANIZATIONS JUST TO SEE HOW MUCH OF A BENEFIT IT'S BEEN, THAT'LL HELP US MAKE THE DECISION ON HOW MUCH OF A VALUE IT HAS BEEN TOO. SO JUST FOLLOWING UP IN SIX MONTHS OR YEARS FROM NOW, JUST TO GAUGE THE EFFECTIVENESS, IF WE'VE HELPED, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE SAYING THEY GET A 10 PERCENT, 20 PERCENT, 30 PERCENT LIFT IN BUSINESS, THEN WE KNOW IT'S REALLY HELPED.

SO THAT WOULD BE USEFUL INFORMATION TO AS FAR AS UNDERSTANDING THE EFFECT.

SO THE ONE THING I'M THINKING ON THAT SIDE IS WE CAN ONLY CONTROL WHAT THE CITY DOES.

I'M NOT TOO SURE ABOUT THE BUSINESSES, BUT MAYBE ON OUR END OF THINGS, AS A POSSIBLE SURVEY ON WHO USED IT, FOR WHAT REASONS AND WHERE THEY WENT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CAPTURE THAT INFORMATION FOR.

BUT, YEAH, THE BUSINESS STUFF AND ALL THAT FOR THE NUMBERS THAT I'M SURE WE COULD USE IT JUST TO SEE WHERE PEOPLE WENT ON OUR END OF THINGS AND THEN SEEN AN INCREASE, ESPECIALLY ONCE THE SOFTWARE IS INSTALLED, YOU'D BE ABLE TO TELL RIGHT AWAY NUMBERS GOING UP.

FINAL FOLLOW UP, COUNCILOR CYR.

THANK YOU WORSHIP. I THINK MY QUESTION WAS MORE TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

IF A BUSINESS SURVEY COULD BE DONE SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE BUSINESS IMPACT OF THE TRANSIT SERVICE. SO I'M SURE WE CAN FIND STUDENTS IN THE SUMMER TO DO SOME 20 CALLS A DAY. MY QUESTION WAS MORE GEARED TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SECTOR.

THANKS.

COUNCILOR TURNER. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THE GPS SYSTEM'S GOING TO FINALLY KICK IN AND BE PUT TO USE THE INCREASE OF THE SERVICE TO INCLUDE SUNDAYS.

I'M HOPING THAT BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY AND THE RIDERSHIP IS THERE AND THAT ALL FITS IN WITH THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF MOVING TOWARDS GREEN ECONOMY.

ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO TAKE ONE MORE CAR OFF THE ROAD, EVEN IF WE DO LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUSH, STILL HELPS, EVERY LITTLE THING HELPS.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE REGARDING THE BUS STOP IN THE LOWER PLAZA AND.

THE BIGGEST THING THAT CONCERNS ME HERE IS THAT THE BUS IS GOING TO TRAVEL DOWN AN ALLEYWAY BETWEEN THE REXALL BUILDINGS BEHIND THE BOWLING ALLEY, BANK OF MONTREAL.

I HAVE TRAVELED THROUGH THAT ALLEYWAY ON OCCASIONS IN A MUCH SMALLER VEHICLE AND FOUND MY WAY BLOCKED BY DELIVERY VEHICLES.

I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WANT TO PUT THE BUS STOP ON CHARLES WALK AT HORNE.

MAKES SENSE, GOOD PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY DOWN THERE, BUT I'M WONDERING, DID YOU LOOK AT THE IDEA OF INSTEAD OF TURNING DOWN THE ALLEYWAY, PERHAPS TO GO AROUND THE CIRCLE IN FRONT OF MELANIE'S INSTEAD? AND WHAT WAS THE OBJECTION TO THAT ONE? YEAH, WE LOOKED AT THAT AS WELL.

AND IT WAS THE FACT THAT GOING DOWN THE ALLEYWAY AND GOING ON TO THE OTHER SIDE, IT WAS A LITTLE LESS FOR THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES WILL BE ON THE HORNE WALK SITE.

THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS THE ACTUAL PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE THERE, TOO.

WE'D HAVE TO ELIMINATE SOME IN FRONT OF SOME BUSINESSES TO PAINT THE LINES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED IT FOR ACTUAL BUS TO PULL INTO, WHICH MOST AREAS NEED THAT DESIGNATED SPOT.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING. YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE AWAY SPOTS IN FRONT OF SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES AHEAD OF TIME.

NOT REALLY A BIG DEAL TO DO THE OLD THE FULL TURN AROUND AND HEAD BACK OUT, BUT THE OTHER ONE PUTS YOU MORE ON SCHEDULE TO HEAD DOWN AND GET RIGHT TO THE NEXT STOP THAT ARE IN

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SO THAT WAS SOME OF THE FACTORS PUTTING INTO IT.

BUT LIKE I SAID, I AGREE WITH ALL THE POINTS AND WE BROUGHT THEM ALL UP.

BUT THIS WAS THE ONE THAT WE CAME UP WITH THAT SORT OF SEEMED THE BEST.

AND IT ALL KEPT ON THE DOOR SIDE OF THE BUS AND PULLING IN AND CONTINUING ON WITH SERVICE. SO AND FUTURE WISE, IF WE DECIDED TO GO WITH AN ACTUAL SHELTER, IT WAS ANOTHER REALLY GOOD AREA FOR LOTS OF SPACE, NOT GETTING IN THE WAY OF A SIDEWALK CLEARING AND STUFF LIKE THAT IN THE WINTER.

I THINK YOU SAID YOU'D GIVE SOME CONSIDERATION TO PUTTING A SHELTER IN THERE AND I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE IT.

THERE'S A FAIR WIND THERE AND THERE IS NO PLACE IN THAT WIDE OPEN WALKWAY FOR ANYBODY TO TAKE SHELTER.

SO THEY COULD BE A MISERABLE PLACE TO BE WAITING FOR THE BUS.

THE NUMBERS THAT THE COUNCILORS WERE ENCOURAGING, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO US TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS SUCCESSFUL AND WHETHER WE'RE JUST BLOWING SMOKE HERE OR WE'RE ACTUALLY ACHIEVING SOMETHING. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE NUMBERS.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL FINAMORE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILOR TURNER BROUGHT UP THE POINT I WANTED TO BRING UP THAT I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE MORE OF A PROACTIVE APPROACH TO THE BUS SHELTER, ESPECIALLY ON SUNDAYS.

THERE WON'T BE MUCH DOWN THERE OPEN THAT THEY CAN EVEN SEEK SHELTER INSIDE A STORE OR ANYTHING FOR IN THE WEATHER.

AND IT IS A GOOD SPOT FOR A SHELTER TO BE THERE.

AND DURING THE WEEK, IT MIGHT KEEP THEM FROM BEING OUT IN FRONT OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES AS WELL AS THERE'S A BIG PROBLEM IN FRONT OF REXALL, ALWAYS WITH THE SMOKERS AND STUFF.

SO I THINK THAT THE SHELTER THERE WOULD ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT AND GIVE THEM A PLACE TO REST AND HOPEFULLY MAYBE WITH A BENCH SO THAT I KNOW I FORWARDED YOU A PICTURE FROM THE OTHER PLAZA. LAST WEEK WITH PEOPLE SITTING ON THE GROUND WAITING FOR THE BUS, AND THAT JUST DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH ME.

COUNCILOR TURNER. SPEAKING OF BUS SHELTERS.

IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET DELIBERATIONS, PERHAPS WE COULD CONSIDER REPLACING SOME OF THE SERIOUSLY UGLY ONES AND JUST SO COUNCIL'S AWARE AND WHAT WAS PUT INTO THE FUNDING APPLICATION THAT WENT AWAY, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THING WAS THE OVERHAUL OF NOT JUST THE WHOLE TRANSIT SERVICE SYSTEM, BUT WAS THE TWENTY FIVE SHELTERS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE. SO TO REPLACE AND UPDATE AND ADD WHEREVER WE WOULD NEED TO ADD.

SO THAT'S A BIG PART OF THAT WHOLE FUNDING APPLICATION AND THE MONEY THAT WILL BE SPENT.

THAT'S WONDERFUL TO HEAR. THANK YOU.

OK, A LOT OF GREAT DISCUSSION, I'M GOING TO REITERATE SOMETHING COUNCILOR CYR SAID, WE'VE BEEN ASKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS.

IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN A SIX YEAR DISCUSSION FOR MYSELF.

AND I KNOW A COUPLE OF TIMES WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THINGS ARE GETTING REJIGGED AND LOOKED OUT OVER THE YEARS. AND THE REJIGGING ALWAYS ENDS UP WITH NEW BUSSES, BUT NO NEW SCHEDULING, NO NEW STOPS.

SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ENHANCING SERVICES, NOT JUST GETTING YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE NEW BUSSES NOW. WE HAVE THE GOGPS INSTALLED.

WE HAVE OTHER SYSTEMS COMING IN THE NEW YEAR.

AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESSES EITHER.

IT'S ABOUT ENHANCING THE WELL-BEING OF OUR RESIDENTS.

AND IT'S A BIG SOCIAL ASPECT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE A LICENSE.

YOU KNOW, THEY LOVE COMING TO ELLIOT LAKE.

QUITE A FEW PEOPLE MOVE HERE.

IT'S EASY TO GET AROUND.

YOU'RE FIVE MINUTES FROM ANYWHERE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HOP ON THE BUS.

SO, COUNCILOR TURNER, I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO SEE MORE PEOPLE USING THE TRANSIT SYSTEM AND NOT USING THEIR VEHICLES.

AND I GOT A STORY A QUICK STORY A 90 YEAR OLD MAN I WAS SPEAKING TO ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

GOD BLESS HIS SOUL. HE'S A REALLY NICE GENTLEMAN WHO IS ALL EXCITED GETTING IN HIS VEHICLE. AND HE SAID TO ME, HE SAID, I JUST GOT MY LICENSE BACK TODAY, TOOK ME THREE TRIES, BUT THEY GAVE IT TO ME AND I JUST WAS IN SHOCK.

WHY? WE NEED ENHANCED TRANSIT SERVICES FOR INDIVIDUALS LIKE THIS SO THEY CAN GET AROUND, ESPECIALLY THE SUNDAY SERVICE PIECE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE NEEDING THAT SOCIAL ASPECT OF GOING TO CHURCH.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF THE FREE RIDERSHIP THAT WE'VE HAD THIS YEAR BECAUSE THAT COULD BE A BIGGER DISCUSSION.

BUT AGAIN, AS COUNCILOR PATRIE POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, THE STATS HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH IT.

SO IF WE LOOK AT THE RIDERSHIP AND POSSIBLY INCREASED RIDERSHIP, IT MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE

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SO THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN.

I'M A BIG FAN. AFTER SIX YEARS OF DISCUSSION, WE'RE GOING TO SEE SUNDAY SERVICE GET A TEST RUN. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO CALL FOR A VOTE ON THE RECOMMENDATION.

I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SIX POINT FOUR MEMO FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR, CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE SALE TO DCL ENTERPRISE 427 TIMBER ROAD.

THE RECOMMENDATION THAT COUNCIL CONSENTS TO THE ASSIGNMENT OF AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE AND SELL AND PERMITS THE REGISTRATION OF TITLE 427 TIMBER ROAD INTO THE NAME OF LYONS ROOFING AND EXTERIORS INC.

CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILOR CYR.

SECOND, MY COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

MS. VLAHOVICH.

TAKE HER AWAY PLEASE. SO YOU, AS RECENTLY AS COUNCIL'S AWARE, WE APPROVED A AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE AND SALE FOUR TWENTY SEVEN TIMBER.

AT THE TIME IT WAS WITH DCL ENTERPRISES.

THE SALE IS STILL TO THE SAME PROPONENT, BUT AS THEY ARE WORKING ON CLOSING NOTICE WAS RECEIVED FROM OUR CITY SOLICITOR THAT THE REGISTERED TITLE NAMES SHOULD BE IN LYONS ROOFING AND EXTERIOR INC.

SO I'M BRINGING FORWARD THAT THE RESOLUTION REQUIRED AS PER THE SOLICITOR BE APPROVED AS THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED TO CONTINUE ON.

AS PART OF OUR AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE AND SALE, WRITTEN NOTICE MUST BE RECEIVED FROM A PURCHASER TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE AND SALE AND REGISTERED TITLE.

AND WE HAVE RECEIVED THAT NOTICE AND IT DOES SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE AGREEMENT. THANK YOU, MS. VLAHOVICH. COUNCILOR PATRIE.

THANK YOU, THROUGH YOU SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS IS THE EXACT SAME PROPONENT, THEY'VE JUST OPENED A NEW BUSINESS.

THEY'RE CLOSING ONE BUSINESS, OPENING A NEW BUSINESS.

ARE THEY FLIPPING THIS PROPERTY? THE POVERTY IS NOT BEING FLIPPED, IT IS THE SAME PROPONENT.

BUT IT'S THE SAME SHAREHOLDERSHIP OF BOTH CORPORATIONS? I BELIEVE THAT IS THE CASE, YES.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT THEN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COUNCILOR TURNER. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

MS. VLAHOVICH, IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR REASON THAT THEY JUST DISCOVERED THEY WANTED TO PUT THIS IN THE NAME OF A NEW COMPANY IN THE SPACE OF A WEEK OR SOMETHING? I JUST HAVE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR CITY SOLICITOR, I BELIEVE THAT THE INITIAL INTENT OR PURCHASE MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE HOLDING CORPORATION'S NAME.

IT IS NOTED THAT BY THE CITY SOLICITOR THAT IT IS COMMON WITH REAL ESTATE DEALS THAT THE BUSINESS WOULD BE HAVING A NAME.

IT'S A COMMONALITY THAT THEY DO SEE.

I'M SORRY I MISSED THE LAST PART.

THAT IS A COMMONALITY THAT THEY SEE AT TIMES WITH REAL ESTATE THAT AN OFFER TO PURCHASE MAY HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE HOLDING COMPANY NAME.

AND THIS IS THE DEFINED BUSINESS NAME.

SO WE JUST RECEIVED NOTICE FROM OUR SOLICITOR AND A RECOMMENDATION TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE NAME REGISTRATION.

I HAVE TO SAY, I'M NOT IMPRESSED THAT THEY WOULD COME AND MAKE AN OFFER TO THE CITY UNDER ONE CORPORATE NAME AND TWO WEEKS LATER DECIDE THIS CAN BE IN ANOTHER.

THERE'S NO ADVANTAGE TO RUNNING IT FROM THE HOLDING COMPANY TO THE NEW CORPORATION THAT I CAN SEE.

THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT NORMALLY SEE WHEN THERE'S A GAME BEING PLAYED, SO I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT THERE COULDN'T BE MORE CLARITY FROM MINUTE ONE.

COUNCILOR PATRIE. JUST FOR CLARITY TO COUNCILOR TURNER, IT IS A STANDARD PRACTICE, AND THAT'S WHY THE QUESTION I ASKED, IS IT THE SAME SHAREHOLDERSHIP? SO EITHER THE ORIGINAL PROPONENT COULD BUY IT AND BE THE OWNERS OF THE NEW CORPORATION OR THE SHAREHOLDERS COULD BE THE OWNERS OF THE CORPORATION, VIRTUALLY, IT IS SO THAT THEY CAN RENT SOMETHING BACK TO THE HOLDING COMPANY.

A LOT OF CORPORATIONS HOLD SEVERAL CORPORATIONS TO DO THAT IN THAT ASPECT, TO PROTECT EACH BUSINESS AND TO RUN THEIR BOOKS LEGIT THROUGH EACH BUSINESS SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A LANDLORD OWNING THE BUSINESSES AND RENTING THEM TO THE CERTAIN BUSINESSES.

IF THE CORPORATION OWNS MULTIPLE BUSINESSES, THEY OFTEN WILL DO THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE SAME PROPRIETORS OR WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE JUST FLIPPING IT.

SO IT IS STANDARD PRACTICE IN BUSINESS AND CORPORATIONS FOR THEM TO HOLD MULTIPLE

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COUNCILOR TURNER. I UNDERSTAND HOW HOLDING COMPANIES WORK.

IN THIS CASE, THE HOLDING COMPANY IS NOT RENTING TO THE NEW COMPANY.

IT'S LETTING THE LAND BE OWNED BY THE NEW COMPANY.

OK, SO. I'M SATISFIED IF IT'S THE SAME SHAREHOLDERS, SAME PEOPLE, I WANT TO GET TO THIS JUST A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT THEY WOULD BOTHER WITH THIS.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, TOO, THAT I'VE NOTICED MY BUSINESS DEALINGS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT MANY BUSINESSES ARE ACTUALLY REGISTERED UNDER AN ONTARIO NUMBER TITLE, AND THEN YOU'LL GO AND SEE THE BUSINESS HAS ITS HAS A NAME, BUT LEGALLY THEY'RE REGISTERED ONTARIO LIMITED NUMBER, NUMBER, NUMBER.

THIS MIGHT BE ONE OF THOSE SAME SITUATIONS, WHEREAS THEY HAVE WHATEVER PLASTERED ON THE SIDE OF THEIR VEHICLE. BUT THE ACTUAL HOLDING COMPANY IS LYONS IN THIS CASE.

IT'S HARD TO SAY.

SAME PEOPLE, THEN I'D SAY THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING ELLIOT LAKE, LOVE SEEING NEW BUSINESSES, AND I LOVE SEEING BUSINESSES PROSPER.

SO, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE, ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.

SEVEN PRESENTATION, A COMMITTEE REPORT, SEVEN POINT ONE REFERRAL FROM COMMITTEE OF THE

[7. PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS]

COUNCILOR PATRIE, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, HAD THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING, THE VISA STATEMENTS WERE RECEIVED A STANDARD WE NORMALLY JUST RECEIVED THEM AT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, BUT IT WAS A REFERENCE TO BRING THEM TO COUNCIL TO BE RECEIVED HERE AS WELL.

SO I RECOMMEND THAT WE RECEIVE THESE IF WE CAN GET A SECONDER.

SECONDED BY COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, COUNCILOR PATRIE.

THIS IS JUST OUR STANDARD MONTHLY VISA STATEMENTS.

AGAIN, VERY CLEAR AND CONCISE FROM OUR TREASURER.

AND I DIDN'T FIND ANY ANOMALIES AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. DEFINITELY CLEAR, CONCISE FORMAT.

I DO APPRECIATE THE NEW FORMAT THAT YOU BROUGHT FORWARD, MS. SONNENBURG. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I'D ASK IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

SEEING NONE, MOTION TO RECEIVE, THEN.

ALL IN FAVOR? IT'S CARRIED, THANK YOU.

SEVEN POINT TWO REFERRAL FROM COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEMO FROM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TREASURY, SEPTEMBER VARIANCE REPORTS, COUNCILOR PATRIE ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE.

AGAIN, AT LAST MONDAY'S COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING, OUR TREASURER PROVIDED US WITH A VARIANCE REPORT UP TO THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

AND IT'S PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY.

I'LL MOVE TO RECEIVE.

THANK YOU. SECONDER? SECONDED BY COUNCILOR PEARCE.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COUNCILOR PATRIE? VERY SELF-EXPLANATORY.

IT'S OUR STANDARD QUARTERLY VARIANCE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

OKAY, MAYBE WE CAN GET MS. SONNENBERG TO JUST GO THROUGH SOME OF THE NUMBERS AND THE IMPACT FOR US.

IS THERE A SPECIFIC QUESTION? NO, JUST FOR THE VIEWERS AT HOME.

ALL RIGHT. SO AT THE END OF THE THIRD QUARTER, THE FORECAST YEAR END IS A SURPLUS OF FORTY THREE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY SEVEN DOLLARS.

THIS IS NOT INCLUSIVE OF FUNDING RECEIVED FROM THE MINISTRY OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND HOUSING, WHICH WAS RECEIVED IN OCTOBER.

SO IN THE FOLLOWING VARIANCE REPORT, WE WILL SEE THAT, UM, INCOME COMING INTO THE VARIANCE REPORT AND WILL BE PUT AGAINST OPERATIONAL BUDGETS.

OK, THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE, THEN.

ALL IN FAVOR? THAT'S RECEIVED, THANK YOU.

AND SEVEN POINT THREE REFERRAL FROM COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE STAFF CODE OF CONDUCT.

COUNCIL PATRIE.

IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING LAST MONDAY, OUR CEO PROVIDED US WITH A DRAFT CODE OF CONDUCT FOR EMPLOYEES.

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I'M NOT WILLING TO MOVE THIS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A MOVER OR A SECONDER . OK, LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO MOVE THE ADOPTION OF THE CODE OF CONDUCT.

MOVED BY COUNCILOR PEARCE. SECOND, BY COUNCILOR CYR.

COUNCIL PATRIE.

THANK YOU. AT THAT MEETING, THERE WAS SOME GOOD DISCUSSION.

THERE WAS ALSO SOME QUESTION ABOUT HAVING SOME SPECIFICS ADDED TO THE REFERENCES THAT I DO NOT SEE HAVE BEEN DONE AS PER THE DISCUSSION AT THAT MEETING.

SO THEREFORE, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS CODE OF CONDUCT TONIGHT.

I DO RECALL, THE DISCUSSION AROUND THE REFERENCE AND RELATED DOCUMENTS AS AN APPENDIX TO INCLUDE THE DOCUMENT NUMBERS.

SO IT WAS MORE EASILY REFERENCED ONLINE.

COUNCILOR PEARCE. YES, THANK YOU, WORSHIP THROUGH YOU, I THINK I WOULD ECHO THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY COUNCILOR MANN AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING WHEN HE SAID THAT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS. WE'VE SPENT AN AWFUL LOT OF TIME ON IT.

I THINK IT'S BEEN A VERY GOOD JOB THAT'S BEEN DONE BY STAFF, AND I'M REALLY NOT PREPARED TO KEEP ON SENDING IT BACK.

I THINK IT IS VERY GOOD.

IT IS A LIVING DOCUMENT.

I'M SURE IT CAN BE AMENDED AT VARIOUS TIMES, BUT FOR NOW, I'M IN FAVOR OF PASSING IT AS IT IS. THANK YOU.

COUNCILOR PATRIE. IN RESPONSE TO THAT.

THROUGH YOU, MR. MAYOR, I HAD ASKED THAT THOSE POLICIES BE INCLUDED IN THIS POLICY AND IT WAS ACTUALLY COUNCILOR MANN THAT RECOMMENDED THAT THE POLICY NUMBERS BE INCORPORATED INSTEAD OF MAKING IT A BUCK THICK SO COUNCILOR MANN WAS IN AGREEMENT AS WELL THAT WE SHOULD AT LEAST PUT THOSE IN THERE FOR EASY REFERENCE.

OKAY, MR. GAGNON.

MY, YOU KNOW, I MAY HAVE [INAUDIBLE] A LITTLE BIT, BUT WHAT I TRIED TO DO IS SO IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING AT A SOFT COPY, IF YOU CLICK ON THOSE POLICIES, IT'LL BRING YOU EXACTLY TO THE POLICY.

AND THAT'S LINKED TO OUR WEBSITE.

SO IT'S ALREADY PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.

WE DON'T USE POLICY NUMBERS.

THERE'S NO VALUE IN REFERRING TO THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY NUMBER FIVE SEVEN TWO.

WE JUST DON'T SIMPLY HAVE POLICY NUMBERS SO IT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO REFER TO A NUMBER OR CREATE A NUMBER INDEX SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE.

SO WHAT I DID INSTEAD WAS LINK ALL THOSE POLICIES, PUT THEM ON THE WEBSITE.

SO NOW THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT AND YOU CAN CLICK ON THAT AND IT HYPERLINKS YOU DIRECTLY TO THE POLICY. SO THAT WAS MY INTERPRETATION OF THE DIRECTION.

IF MAJORITY OF COUNCIL WANT TO REVIEW IT IN ANOTHER WAY OR IF YOU HAVE OTHER SUGGESTIONS.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I TRIED TO DO.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE ON THE PDF ONLINE THAT IT'S CLICKABLE.

THOSE ARE BLUE HYPERLINKS.

OK, SO JUST FOR CLARITY FOR ANYONE WATCHING, SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS ONLINE AND I LOOK AND GO, OK, WELL, THE REFERENCE HERE, THERE'S A REFERENCE TO ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE POLICY.

AND I CLICK ON THAT WORDING WOULD TAKE ME TO A SEPARATE POLICY TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IT.

IT'LL TAKE YOU TO THAT EXACT POLICY PDF AND HOPEFULLY THAT PDF IS ACCESSIBLE, ESPECIALLY ON THAT ONE. BUT NO, WE DID THAT ON PURPOSE.

IT WAS DESIGNED SUCH A WAY.

SO IF YOU CLICK ON IT, IT WILL TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO THAT POLICY, WHICH IS LINKED ON OUR WEBSITE. OK.

FOLLOW UP, COUNCILOR PATRIE.

EVERY ONE OF THOSE POLICIES SHOULD HAVE A BYLAW NUMBER AND WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THAT'S WHAT WE WERE SAYING SHOULD BE ATTACHED TO IT AS WELL IF SOMEBODY JUST WANTS TO LOOK THEM UP. OK, MR. GAGNON. FOR WHATEVER REASON, I DIDN'T CLUE INTO THE BYLAW NUMBER.

SURE, THERE'S A BYLAW NUMBER, THOSE WHO WERE PASSED BY LAW.

BUT SAY THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY, I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE A BYLAW ON THAT.

PROBABLY NOT.

THESE WOULD ALL BE BEFORE THE CONFIRMATORY BYLAW.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR REFERENCE NUMBERS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IF I'M A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AND I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY, WELL, CLICK ON IT.

IT'S RIGHT THERE. I THOUGHT THAT CUTS TO THE CHASE.

BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BYLAW NUMBERS, WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD THOSE.

IT'S JUST AN ADMINISTRATIVE MATTER UPLOADED ON A WEBSITE.

COUNCILOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

THROUGH YOU, TO MR. GAGNON. I THINK I'M SATISFIED WITH THOSE ANSWERS.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE THIS CODE OF CONDUCT AND WHAT WE EXPECT OF OUR STUFF. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE STAFF KNOW THAT WHEN THEY'RE READING THIS AND THEY ARE MAYBE PERPLEXED ABOUT THEIR ACTIONS OR CONTEMPLATING AN ACTION, THAT THEY CAN QUITE READILY LOOK UP THE POLICY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE FOLLOWING THIS NEW POLICY AS BEST THEY CAN. COUNCILOR CYR.

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I'M SATISFIED WITH THIS DOCUMENT.

I'VE JUST TESTED THE LINKS MYSELF RIGHT NOW AND THEY SEEM TO WORK FINE.

SO I'M SATISFIED WITH THIS DOCUMENT.

GOOD STUFF. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? I'LL LOOK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE, THEN:.

1] THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU. NO OUTSIDE BOARD OR COMMITTEE REPORTS.

NINE UNFINISHED BUSINESS, THE COMMUNITY RECREATION HUB UPDATE IS AN ONGOING, STANDING ITEM

[9. UNFINISHED BUSINESS]

YES. SO FOR THE RECREATION HUB, I'M TOLD THE GEOTECH UNIT IS DELAYED, BUSY AT THIS TIME OF YEAR. AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET IT HERE AS SOON AS THEY CAN TO DO THE GEOTECH THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED FOR THE 151 ONTARIO.

I DID SPEAK TO THE MINISTRY OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND I WISH I HAD BETTER NEWS, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANOTHER INTAKE IN ON THEIR RADAR FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] FUNDING, WHICH WAS THE FEDERAL PROVINCIAL BIG RECREATION FUND THAT WE APPLIED TO AND WERE UNSUCCESSFUL LAST FALL.

SO WHENEVER THAT NEXT INTAKE WILL BE, WILL BE IS UNKNOWN, IT'LL BE WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS ABLE TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO THE [INAUDIBLE] FOR THESE TYPES OF COST SHARING. SO THAT'S NOT GREAT NEWS.

THE WHAT THEY DID ROLL OUT AND THAT THE MINISTRY OF INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN BUSY ON IS A REDIRECTION OF SOME OF THAT FEDERAL PROVINCIAL MONEY FROM THAT OVERARCHING INFRASTRUCTURE FUND TO FUND COVID READINESS, OR THEY'VE BRANDED IT IN ANOTHER COVID.

IT WAS JUST ANNOUNCED LAST WEEK THAT OUR SHARE WILL BE ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

AGAIN, NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE HUB, BUT IT'S ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR COMMUNITY RETROFITS TO FACILITIES OR COVID RELATED RENOVATIONS OR OUTDOOR SPACES TRAILS. THAT'S INTRIGUING TO US.

SO WE'RE LOOKING INTO OPTIONS FOR HOW TO ALLOCATE THAT HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

BUT THAT'S NOT HELPING AS MUCH WHEN IT COMES TO THE HUB, WE ARE LOOKING INTO THE COST TO GET A BETTER HANDLE ON THE STATE OF THE CURLING CLUB BUILDING NOW, WHETHER IT BE FOR A FUTURE, YOU KNOW, CAPITAL PHASE OR FOR, YOU KNOW, REPAIRS OR WHATNOT, JUST SO WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND, WHAT IS THE STATE OF THAT CURLING CLUB BUILDING NOW, EVEN IF WE DON'T OWN IT? WE'LL BE BACK IN FRONT OF COUNCIL WHEN WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.

WHAT WE MAY NEED EITHER IN THE NEAR FUTURE IS MORE CLEAR DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON HOW TO PROCEED WITH THE RECREATION HUB.

WE HAVE OPTIONS OF FINANCING OR, YOU KNOW, PROCEEDING WITH THE TENDERING FOR THE DETAILED DESIGN, WHICH I'VE QUOTED IS IN A ONE POINT SIX TO TWO POINT TWO DOLLARS MILLION RANGE.

IF WE'RE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT, WE ALL HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES HOW LONG WE CAN EKE OUT THE EXISTING ASSETS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, THE POOL IN THE ARENA, THE COLLINS HALL.

AND THEN OR DO WE EXPLORE SELF-FINANCING PARTS OF THIS PROJECT? I KNOW THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN REVIEWED BY COUNCIL AND WILL NEED TO BE REVIEWED IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WHETHER THAT'S AT A HUB COMMITTEE MEETING IN THE FIRST ROUND OF THEIR BUDGET MEETINGS OR AT A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING.

IT'S UP TO COUNCIL HOW YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT.

BUT BASICALLY, THE MESSAGE IS THERE ISN'T ANY SIGNIFICANT FUNDING COMING FOR RECREATION FACILITIES LIKE WE JUST MISSED OUT ON AND COUNTLESS OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DID AS WELL.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS ARE, KNOWING THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE AN IMMINENT FUNDING VEHICLE FOR A 27 TO 38 MILLION DOLLAR FACILITY. THANK YOU, MR. GANON. I KNOW WITH THE BUILDING CONDITION ASSESSMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED A FEW YEARS AGO, I'D SAY THEY WERE VERY, VERY LIBERAL IN THEIR FORECASTS FOR THE STATE OF OUR FACILITIES OR WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CURLING ARENA.

THAT'S JUST ONE PIECE OF THE PIE.

BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT 100 PERCENT DOLLARS IF WE WERE TO BUILD IT ALL OURSELVES. BUT SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS NEED TO BE REJIGGED.

IF WE'RE LOOKING AT PHASING IN OR NOT PHASING IN IS A CURLING CLUB IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED. THESE ARE DISCUSSIONS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE.

BUT ALSO IN ORDER TO MAKE A DECISION LIKE THIS, AS A COUNCIL, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO KNOW WHAT ARE OUR ACTUAL OPERATIONAL SAVINGS AND THAT NEEDS TO INCLUDE, WHAT ARE WE SPENDING

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AND I'VE SAID IT REPEATEDLY.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE SPENDING FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH REPAIRING YOUR 1970 PINTO AND YOU CAN SPEND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH DRIVING A BRAND NEW FORD MUSTANG, THAT'S A PRETTY EASY CHOICE.

SO WE NEED TO HAVE SOME OF THESE NUMBERS BROKEN DOWN FOR US IN DIFFERENT SCENARIOS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I KNOW WE JUST SPENT ONE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS ON A NEW ROOF FOR AN ARENA THAT ALREADY HAS A LEAK IN IT. AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I'M DISTURBED BY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING OR WE WILL HAVE NO RECREATIONAL FACILITIES IN THIS COMMUNITY. COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

THANK YOU, THROUGH YOU TO MR. GAGNON AND I THINK TO MR HALLOCH, IN SOME SENSE.

BEFORE I CAN MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHAT COMES NEXT, THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT I DON'T HAVE THAT I NEED AND SOME OF THEM THE MAYOR JUST MENTIONED.

BUT I ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TAKEN TO DO NEW ASSESSMENTS ON EACH BUILDING. I WANT TO KNOW WHICH ONE IS IF WE HAVE TO FINANCE THIS OURSELVES AND WE CAN'T FINANCE ALL OF IT.

I WANT TO KNOW WHICH IS THE FIRST ONE OFF THE [INAUDIBLE], WHICH IS THE SECOND ONE, WHICH IS THE MOST DIRE NEED.

WHERE DO WE START? AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY WE HAVE TO DO A PIECEMEAL OF THIS, BUT WE JUST MAY HAVE TO.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GO TO THE CITIZENS OF ELLIOT LAKE TO FINANCE THIS WHOLE THING ALL AT ONCE. I KNOW EVERYONE'S BEEN FLOATING AROUND WISH-LISTS AND WHAT THEY'D LIKE AND WHAT THEY'D SEE. WE NEED TO GET DOWN TO BARE BONES OF WHAT WE ACTUALLY CAN AFFORD TO DO.

I HAVE NEVER HAD A DISCUSSION WITH FULL COUNCIL ON THIS ISSUE YET, AND THERE'S BEEN MEETINGS OF WHICH I'VE NEVER ATTENDED.

SO I NEED AS A COUNCILOR, I NEED TO HAVE ALL THIS INFORMATION BEFORE I CAN MAKE ANY TYPE OF DECISION OR ENTER INTO ANY DISCUSSIONS.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT COMES BEFORE THE BUDGET OR PART OF THE BUDGET, AS MR. GAGNON SAID. BUT THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN SOONER THAN LATER.

AND TO GATHER AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE, I DON'T KNOW WHICH IS WORSE.

I HAVE A FEELING THE POOL MAY BE IN WORSE SHAPE THAN THE ARENA, BUT THAT'S JUST FROM LISTENING TO THE USERS OF THE FACILITY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME TECHNICAL SUPPORT TO GO ALONG WITH THOSE DECISIONS.

COUNCILOR CYR. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I FOR ONE, I'M NOT READY TO VOTE FOR A 40 MILLION DOLLAR HUB TO BE FINANCED, BUT BY THE CITY, BY OURSELVES, AT A TIME WHEN THIS THIS WHOLE COVID SCENARIO IS THERE'S STILL SO MANY UNKNOWNS OF HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO BE, WHAT THE LONG TERM EFFECTS IT'S GOING TO BE FOR OUR BUSINESSES AND OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT'S BE IRRESPONSIBLE FOR US TO START SPENDING THAT MUCH MONEY ON RECREATION.

I'M READY TO VOTE ON SPENDING 20, 30 MILLION DOLLARS ON REPAIRING OUR STREETS THAT ARE CRUMBLING BENEATH OUR FEET.

YOU KNOW, EVERYWHERE YOU DRIVE, YOU'RE ALMOST HITTING YOUR HEAD ON THE CAR ROOF.

THAT IS A NEEDS.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR NEEDS BEFORE WANTS.

YES, WE DO NEED SOME FACILITIES.

AND I'M READY TO SUPPORT MAYBE A MODULAR BUILD AND TAKE THINGS A LITTLE SLOWER.

BUT THE SPEND 40 MILLION DOLLARS AT ELLIOT LAKE TAXPAYERS BY THEMSELVES RIGHT NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO START LOOKING AT THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COUNCILOR PATRIE? I'D LIKE TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT COUNCILOR FINAMORE SAID.

WE DO HAVE ASSESSMENTS WE HAD ASSESSMENTS DONE LAST YEAR THAT TELLS US.

THAT OUR POOL IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND.

WE DID SPEND OVER A MILLION DOLLARS REPAIRING THE ARENA ROOF THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BUY US ANOTHER FIVE TO 25 YEARS.

IF IT'S LEAKING, GET IT FIXED, GO BACK, IT'S UNDER WARRANTY, GO BACK TO THE CONTRACTOR, MAYBE WE HIRED THE WRONG CONTRACTOR, I DON'T KNOW, BUT LET'S GET THE LEAK FIXED.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

WHAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS WE CAN'T DO WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST AND JUST SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BY BUILDING A NEW FACILITY AND NOT PUTTING ANY MONEY INTO THESE CURRENT FACILITIES OR THEY WILL COLLAPSE.

WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THEM ANNUALLY.

WE'VE ALWAYS HAD TO MAINTAIN THEM.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR ANALOGY WITH A PINTO, BUT THESE AREN'T PINTOS.

THESE ARE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR FACILITIES.

AND SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ECONOMY OF SCALE, IT MAY BE THAT.

WE MIGHT HAVE TO PUT TWO OR THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO UPGRADE THE INTERIOR OF THE POOL WHEN THE STRUCTURE IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND, ACCORDING TO THE ENGINEER, WAS VERY WELL BUILT AND IS ONE OF THE BETTER WAYS TO BUILD A POOL.

AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE STARTING TO PUT THEM TOGETHER, THERE'S THE INFORMATION THAT THE CURRENT ENGINEERS WERE TELLING US WHEN THEY MET WITH US LAST MONTH.

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BECAUSE OF THE MOISTURE, SO THERE'S A LOT TO LOOK AT, BUT I THINK THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF IS DON'T JUST LET THESE PLACES BECOME DILAPIDATED.

WE'VE GOT TO MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE AND KEEP IT GOING BECAUSE REGARDLESS IF FOUR MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL SAY WE'RE GOING TO SPEND 40 MILLION DOLLARS ON THE BACK OF THE TAXPAYERS, YOU'RE STILL FIVE YEARS OUT AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN THOSE FACILITIES FOR THAT AMOUNT OF TIME.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT 40 MILLION DOLLARS, NOBODY HAS EVER PUT THE NUMBERS IN THERE.

WE ALSO HAVE TO REMOVE THE EXISTING FACILITIES.

BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO SAY THAT THE ECONOMY OF SCALE IS IT'S CHEAPER TO PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER AND OPERATE ONE FACILITY, WELL, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND MILLIONS TO DEMOLISH IT AND REMEDIATE THE CURRENT SITES AND FACILITIES THAT ARE THERE SO THAT 40 MILLION DOLLARS IS NOT REALLY A 40 MILLION DOLLAR NUMBER.

THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO GATHER AND WE NEED TO WORK ON IT RAPIDLY. BUT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPERATIVE THAT STAFF AND I BELIEVE STAFF HAS A VERY GOOD HANDLE ON WHAT THE STATE OF THOSE FACILITIES ARE.

BUT WE NEED TO KNOW THE NUMBERS GOING FORWARD TO ANNUALLY REPAIR THEM AND KEEP THEM IN THE SHAPE THAT THEY'RE IN, AT LEAST FOR NOW.

COUNCILOR PEARCE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

THROUGH YOU. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A HEAVY DEBATE TONIGHT ON THIS SUBJECT BECAUSE I THINK, AS BOTH COUNCILOR FINAMORE AND COUNCILOR PATRIE HAVE POINTED OUT, THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT MORE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AS A COUNCIL.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A FULL BLOWN HUB MEETING, FOLLOWED BY POTENTIALLY A SPECIAL MEETING OF COUNCIL TO DEBATE THIS THING.

THIS IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE GIVEN IT ENOUGH TIME AROUND THIS TABLE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO THAT.

I KNOW THAT STAFF IS WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THIS, AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING AND THEY'RE WONDERING WHAT WE'RE DOING ABOUT IT. SO I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE SAT DOWN, WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS AND WE DISCUSSED ALL OF THIS AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL AND HAVE A FULL BLOWN DEBATE ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO SO THAT THE PUBLIC AND THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE AWARE THAT THEY'RE VERY CLEAR AS TO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

THANK YOU. SO I THINK I'LL SAY I THINK STAFF IS GETTING THE GIST HERE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN ALL OUT MEETING TO DISCUSS IN DETAIL.

BUT WE NEED A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE.

WE'RE ASKING FOR A LOT OF INFORMATION.

AND I DON'T I'M VERY, VERY CONCERNED THAT OVER THE YEARS IT'S JUST BEEN AS ONE OF THE COUNCILORS IN THIS CHAMBER USED TO SAY, LIPSTICK ON A PIG.

AND I'M NOT HAPPY WITH LIPSTICK ON A PIG, ESPECIALLY BEING A USER OF SOME OF THESE FACILITIES. COUNCILOR TURNER, YOU'D ANOTHER COMMENT.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOUR WORSHIP, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AVAILABLE TO US BY THE ENGINEERS WHO DID THE PRELIMINARY PROJECT COSTS, THOSE ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE UNDER PLANS AND REPORTS JUST CALLED IT UP THERE FEW SECONDS AGO. I DON'T DISAGREE.

WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE CLEARLY WE CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING NEW OVERNIGHT. WE HAVE TO GET AROUND TO DISCUSSING THE VALUE OF NEW COMPLEX, WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.

I SHOULD REMIND PERHAPS MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT IF WE WANT TO PAVE ROADS WITH A SIMILAR AMOUNT OF MONEY, PROBABLY IS NOT GOING TO GO [INAUDIBLE] CURRENTLY ON THE STREETS THAT WE'RE DOING, IT'S COSTING US FOUR THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS, GIVE OR TAKE A FEW DOLLARS PER LINEAR METER.

SO GET YOUR CALCULATOR OUT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT HILLSIDE COSTS.

THAT'S WHY WE WAIT FOR SPECIFIC GOVERNMENT GRANTS, FOR INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP US DO THOSE

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AND AS THE CAO SAID, THERE'S NOTHING AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.

PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ARE DISHING IT OUT IN DIFFERENT CORNERS OF THE ECONOMY. I THINK A BILLION AND A HALF TODAY FOR INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE.

NICE TO SEE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR EIGHT MONTHS, NONE OF US HAS THAT CRYSTAL BALL TO SEE HOW THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO GO.

BUT SOMEHOW I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING INTO THE GREAT NOSEDIVE.

ALL RIGHT. BUSINESS HAS BEEN SLUGGING AWAY AND NOT DOING TOO BAD IN TOWN.

WE'VE BEEN VERY LUCKY.

SO LET'S HAVE OUR MEETING AND DISCUSS ALL THE FACTS AND JUST STICK WITH THE FACTS.

YEARS AGO THIS YEAR, PREVIOUS COUNCILS HEARD FROM CONSULTANTS, I BELIEVE IT WAS MR. P. WHO LAID OUT A DIAGRAM, A CHART SHOWING THE ESCALATING COSTS OF MAINTAINING THE OLD VERSUS COSTS OF BUILDING NEW AND SOMEWHERE.

I THINK A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THOSE LINES INTERSECTED AND COST MAINTAINING PASSED OVER THE HIGH COST OF BUILDING NEW, SO IT'S TIME WE GOT THOSE THINGS, REVIEWED THEM, DONE IT TOGETHER. I'M SURE THAT EVERYBODY STUDYING THE NUMBERS WILL PROBABLY COME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION, WE EITHER DO OR WE DON'T.

LET'S DO IT TOGETHER AS A COUNCIL FOR WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST THE COMMUNITY THAT LIVES HERE TODAY.

OK, THESE TYPE OF STRUCTURES ARE 50 YEAR STRUCTURES.

THESE ARE YOUR GRANDCHILDREN'S KIDS SWIMMING POOLS OR HOCKEY ARENAS OR WHATEVER.

SO LET'S KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE GO FORWARD.

WE DON'T DO IT JUST FOR TODAY AND FOR ANYBODY WHO NEEDS TO BE RESPONDED TO WHEN THEY'RE SCREAMING ME, ME, ME.

WE NEED TO DO IT FOR PEOPLE LIVE HERE NOW AND THE PEOPLE WHO'LL LIVE HERE IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU. FINAL COMMENT, COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

CARRY ON. THANK YOU.

THROUGH YOU TO MR. GAGNON. I JUST WONDERED WHAT KIND OF TIME FRAME WE'RE THROWING ALL THIS AT YOU THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

I REALIZE THERE'S NUMBERS OUT THERE AND I REALIZE THERE'S BEEN STUDIES DONE.

BUT UNTIL THIS COUNCIL DECIDES EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE BUILDING, WE HAVE NO IDEA OF THE COST.

THAT'S A GOOD BALLPARK FIGURE.

WE'VE ALL SEEN THEM. THEY'VE ALL BEEN SENT TO US.

BUT UNTIL WE DECIDE WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING IN, IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS GOING TO COST. SO YOU OBVIOUSLY NEED TO GET A LOT OF INFORMATION FOR US.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT--I DON'T KNOW WHO THE CHAIR OF THE THAT COMMITTEE IS, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT TYPE OF TIME FRAME WE'RE LOOKING AT TO GET A MEETING.

I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON THE LEVEL OF DETAIL AND COMFORT OF THE NEW DATA YOU WOULD LIKE, WE HAVE A LOT OF EXISTING STUDIES WE CAN DUST OFF AND GET IN FRONT OF YOU IN A MATTER OF WEEKS. BUT I WAS TOYING WITH THE IDEA.

I JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET IT NAILED DOWN YET.

BUT WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECTS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH AND HAVING A MORE ROBUST REVIEW OF THE PRO FORMA OF THIS NEW BUILDING AND COMPARING IT TO WHAT IT COSTS FOR THE EXISTING BUILDING, SOME OF THAT WE CAN PULL WITH MS. SONNENBURG'S HELP. THAT'S THAT'S EASY.

BUT I WAS HOPING FOR A THIRD PARTY TO HELP STITCH THAT TOGETHER AND GET COUNCIL FRESH DATA ON WHAT THIS BUILDING WOULD COST COMPARED TO THE OLD EXISTING BUILDINGS BASICALLY COME UP WITH A NEW PRO FORMA SO THAT WE COULD QUANTIFY THOSE OPERATIONAL SAVINGS.

THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT THAT IN ANY DETAIL WAS TWENTY SEVENTEEN.

AND I'M JUST I DON'T HAVE THE SAME COMFORT WITH THE MANAGEMENT TEAM CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED WITH THOSE NUMBERS.

SO I'M HOPING TO GET THAT DONE.

BUT BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE AN EXISTING RELATIONSHIP WITH IDEA ARCHITECTS AND TULLOCH ENGINEERING, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PULL THAT TOGETHER RELATIVELY QUICKLY.

SO I'M HOPING TO LOOK INTO THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

THE OTHER THING WE NEED TO DUST OFF AND AGAIN, SHOULDN'T BE OVERLY TIME CONSUMING IS THE REVIEWS THAT WE DID IN 2019.

THE PROBLEM IS MAYBE I'LL TAKE A STEP BACK OUR BUILDING CONDITION ASSESSMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN RELYING ON FOR SOME TIME NOW WERE DONE IN 2014 OR 2016.

I CAN'T REMEMBER. CERTAINLY LATER IN 2016, THOSE BUILDING CONDITION ASSESSMENTS WERE DONE

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THE TENDER VALUE FOR THE ENTIRE SCOPE OF TEN BUILDINGS WAS, I BELIEVE, FORTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO I'M OF THE OPINION THAT WE SHOULD WORK WITH TULLOCH ENGINEERING AND DO A MORE DETAILED REVIEW OF THE POOL, THE ARENA, MAYBE THE COLLINS HALL.

IN 2019 AFTER THE ROOF COLLAPSE.

WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY WITH TULLOCH ENGINEERING REVIEWING THE BUILDINGS, BUT THEY WERE REVIEWING THE BUILDINGS TO DO FOR STRUCTURAL SOUNDNESS.

THEY DIDN'T LOOK NECESSARILY AT THE PLANT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

THEY JUST WANTED TO DETERMINE, IS IT SAFE? WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO FOR THE ROOF? AND THAT WAS A LIMITED SCOPE.

NOW WE NEED TO TAKE A SLIGHTLY LONGER VIEW, DUST OFF THOSE BUILDING CONDITION ASSESSMENTS OF 2016 AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT TO COUNCILOR PATRIE'S POINT IS, WHAT DO THESE BUILDINGS NEED? IF WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THEM FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

THAT, TOO, ISN'T AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF WORK BECAUSE WE HAVE AN EXISTING RELATIONSHIP WITH TULLOCH ENGINEERING. THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN IN THE BUILDINGS.

THEY KNOW THE STRUCTURE IS SOUND.

NOW, WE JUST NEED TO GET THEM TO LOOK AT THE ICE PLANT OR THE BACK ROOM AND SOME OTHER AREAS. SO ALL THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE A QUICK MEETING IN THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS WITH THE DATA THAT WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF SEEN, OR IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO GET THOSE STUDIES DONE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE HOLIDAYS AND EVERYTHING.

PROBABLY A ROBUST MEETING IN JANUARY WITH WITH FRESH GOOD DATA.

THAT'S MY BEST GUESS AT THIS STATE RIGHT NOW.

COUNCILOR FINAMORE.

JUST ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP, I PREFER WITH THE FRESHEST DATA THAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY BRING US AT THIS POINT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS TYPE OF THING.

I THINK THAT THE BUILDING ASSESSMENT FOR THE ARENA IS ONLY GOOD FOR FIVE YEARS ANYWAY.

SO IT'S DUE TO COME UP SOON.

SO THAT'S WHAT I RECALL FROM BEFORE.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE THE FRESHEST DATA THAT YOU CAN BRING US SO THAT WE ARE DOING THIS ONCE. COUNCILOR CYR.

THANK YOU, WORSHIP.

THROUGH YOU. I JUST LIKE TO KNOW IF WE DO HAVE ANY NUMBER, IS COUNCIL EXPECTING ANY NUMBERS ON POSSIBLE MODULAR BUILDING OF THIS HUB OR ARE WE ONLY EXPECTING THE COMPLETE BUILD OUT? JUST SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE AND WHAT'S COMING.

MR. GAGNON? I GUESS SOME OF THAT PRESENTATION FROM OUR ARCHITECTS THAT WAS DONE ABOUT A MONTH AGO, INCLUDED VARIOUS BUILDING METHODS AND CONSTRUCTION METHODS.

AND SO THEY CAN BE DESIGNED IN SUCH A WAY THAT YOU CAN EVEN START WITH ONE CONCEPT, ONE COMPONENT, AND ADD THE OTHER ONES.

IF IT'S DESIGNED IN SUCH A WAY, IT CAN EASILY BE DONE.

THEY CAUTIONED US AGAINST WHEN YOU SAY MODULAR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MEAN THE PREFAB OR THE SOFT ROOF, YOU KNOW, SCENARIOS.

THEY CAUTIONED US AGAINST THAT UNLESS WE WERE DOING A SCENARIO WHERE WE LITERALLY DID ONE COMPONENT AND THEN YOU HAD MAYBE A CAUSEWAY AND THEN ANOTHER COMPONENT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'D BE ONE WAY OF DOING IT.

IN THAT CASE, IT'S NOT SO BAD BECAUSE EITHER THE SOFT ROOF EVEN THEN, [INAUDIBLE] HIGHLY RECOMMEND AGAINST IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SAVING ON THE FRONT END, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN THE LONG RUN IS BASICALLY THE GIST OF THAT.

BUT IF YOU WERE TO DO A PREFAB, YOU KNOW, PREDESIGNED CONSTRUCTION, IT CAN BE DONE IN SUCH A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ONE AT A TIME CONNECTED WITH SOME KIND OF CAUSEWAY.

BUT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO DO A FULL, COMPREHENSIVE, DETAILED DESIGN, IT CAN STILL BE DONE IN PHASES. BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DESIGNED AT THE FRONT END KNOWING THAT THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING TO ROLL OUT AND WHETHER IT ENDS UP BEING THE POOL FIRST AND THE ARENA NEXT, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'VE DONE IT, DESIGNED IT AHEAD OF TIME OR IF YOU'RE DOING THAT SEQUENTIAL ONE BUILDING AT A TIME SCENARIO, THAT'S FINE, TOO.

BUT THERE ARE PROS AND CONS TO THAT AND WE HAVE SOME OF THAT ALREADY.

WE JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE FRESH DATA AND OUR ARCHITECT'S CAN QUITE HAPPILY HELP US MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

WE JUST ADMITTEDLY DO NEED SOME FRESH PERSPECTIVE, I THINK ON SOME OF THE NUMBERS.

OK, SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT A FEW SCENARIOS AND DUST OFF SOME OF THE PIECE OF WORK WE HAVE.

BUILDING CONDITION ASSESSMENT 2016.

THEY WERE VERY, VERY DETAILED.

BUT THERE WAS ISSUES WITH THAT, TOO, BECAUSE THEY GAVE US SOME WORK THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE ON THE ARENA. AND I REMEMBER MR. B. HAD HIS OFFICE UPSTAIRS AND CAME OVER TO ME ONE DAY AND HE SAID, YOU WANT TO GO FOR A RIDE? I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING.

SO WE WENT TO THE ARENA.

HE TOOK A PEN OUT OF HIS POCKET, WENT BOOM INTO ONE OF THE POSTS, AND HIS PEN WENT RIGHT THROUGH THE POST. AND HE SAID, THIS IS SOMETHING THEY DIDN'T SEE BECAUSE IT'S ROTTEN INSIDE. BUT WHEN YOU TAP ON IT, IT SOUNDS SOLID.

BUT HIS PEN WENT RIGHT THROUGH IT.

AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE CIVIC CENTER, A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS TO FIX FOUNDATION PROBLEMS. WE SPEND THAT MONEY FIX FOUNDATION PROBLEMS THAT VERY SAME YEAR, THE ROOF CAVES

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IT'S NOT OK. WE ALL HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT USE THESE FACILITIES.

WE'RE VERY LUCKY NOBODY DIED IN THE CIVIC CENTER.

THE YOU KNOW, THE SHOW WAS GOING ON THE VERY NEXT NIGHT TO ME THAT IS A HUGE EYE OPENER.

THIS IS A BUILDING THAT WE JUST PUMP MONEY INTO THINKING THAT, HEY, WE FIXED THIS THING, WE'RE GOOD FOR ANOTHER TEN YEARS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS REPORT SAYS.

I DON'T THINK PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE WORTH NOT SPENDING THE MONEY ON.

ARTS AND CULTURE MR. GAGNON, PLEASE. YES, THAT ONE'S A LITTLE SHORTER.

WE ARE STILL WORKING ON ROLLING OUT A SURVEY.

WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH HOW TO GET THE SURVEY OUT TO HOMES FOR HARD COPY SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT NOT EVERYONE HAS THE INTERNET, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT NOW TO GET THE SURVEY OUT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

THE STAKEHOLDER SURVEYS HAVE ALREADY BEEN FLOATED AROUND TO OUR STAKEHOLDERS.

WE'RE HOPING TO REACH OUT TO OUR FIRST NATION PARTNERS AND GET SOME TRACTION ON THAT IN THE COMING WEEKS. AND THEN THE ARCHITECTS ARE DUE TO COME BACK IN THE COMMUNITY TO MEET WITH OUR FIRST NATION PARTNERS AND WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS IN MID TO LATE NOVEMBER.

SO WE STILL NEED TO GET THAT PROCESS MOVING.

ASIDE FROM THAT, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY MY ARTS UPDATE, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING.

THAT'S A GREAT UPDATE.

THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD. LOVE TO HEAR IT.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE ARTS AND CULTURE HUB? OK, RESIDENTIAL WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS MR. GAGNON IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO MOVE TO CLOSED SESSION FOR ANY UPDATES.

NOT THIS EVENING. COUNCILOR PEARCE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, IF I MAY, AT A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING, I PROMISED INFORMATION TO COUNCIL. I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN IT.

AND IT'S NOT BEING NEGLECTED.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

SO I'M TRYING TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER IN A PACKAGE.

SO I HOPE TO HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION TO COUNCIL BY THE END OF THIS WEEK, WHICH I THINK YOU WILL FIND VERY, VERY INTERESTING.

THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEARCE.

THANK YOU. OK, THERE IS NO PETITIONS, NO CORRESPONDENCE, [INAUDIBLE] COUNCIL'S REPORTS AND

[13. COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS]

SO THE 2020 VIRTUAL FOOD DRIVE MR ELLIOT SENT AN EMAIL AT THE 2020 VIRTUAL FOOD DRIVE WILL BE TAKING PLACE SATURDAY, DECEMBER 5TH, FROM NINE A.M.

TO ONE P.M. AT THE FORMER CIVIC CENTER PARKING LOT.

SO NORMALLY YEARLY, THIS IS THE TIME WHERE PEOPLE GO DOOR TO DOOR AND, YOU KNOW, WE PICK UP BOXES AND BAGS OF FOOD TO BRING TO THE FOOD BANK JUST BEFORE THE HOLIDAY SEASONS.

BUT DUE TO COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTING FOOD DONATIONS THIS YEAR; WE WILL NOT BE GOING DOOR TO DOOR.

THE ONLY THING THEY CAN TAKE IS CASH, CHECK OR DEBIT.

AND A LOT WILL BE PLOWED IF NEED BE.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S CALLING FOR A LOT OF SNOW.

I HOPE NOT. THEY'LL HAVE DRIVING LANES CLEARLY MARKED OUT TO CREATE A DRIVE THRU TYPE SITUATION. VOLUNTEERS HAVE BUCKETS TO COLLECT DONATIONS AND THERE WILL ALSO BE THREE DEBIT MACHINES AVAILABLE.

SO THAT'S A BONUS. SO THAT'S DECEMBER 5TH FROM NINE A.M.

TO ONE P.M.. REMEMBRANCE DAY, 2020, THAT IS THIS WEDNESDAY, SO THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A PARADE THIS YEAR, ALL THE WREATHS WILL BE LAID PRIOR TO THE CEREMONY, WHICH WILL BE TAKING PLACE AT 11 A.M.

THEY'RE ASKING SOCIAL DISTANCING, DON'T COME OUT IN BIG DROVES THIS YEAR.

BUT TO TAKE THE TIME TO REMEMBER A MOMENT OF SILENCE, THIS IS 75 YEARS IN REMEMBERING THE PAIN AND SACRIFICE, SUFFERING OF NOT JUST OUR TROOPS, BUT THEIR FAMILIES, TOO.

AND IT'S NOT JUST 75 YEARS AGO IT'S BEEN.

75 YEARS OF MANY DIFFERENT SITUATIONS THAT OUR TROOPS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN, AND IT'S RIGHT UP TO NOW AND SO PERSONALLY, I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL WHO HAVE SERVED OUR OUR NATION AND SERVED THE WORLD IN VARIOUS SITUATIONS, THANK THEIR FAMILIES FOR HAVING THE PATIENCE AND GIVING THE SUPPORT TO THE TROOPS.

AND BIG THANK YOU TO OUR LEGIONS EVERYWHERE, WHY?

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SO THANK YOU TO OUR LEGION MEMBERS, HEARTFELT THANK YOU TO ALL THAT SERVE.

AND SANDY, YOU HAVE FAMILY SERVING.

THANK YOU TO THEM ALSO.

AND I KNOW YOUR SON'S A WARRANT OFFICER AND AN AMAZING WARRANT OFFICER.

SO REALLY GOOD, GOOD STUFF THERE.

I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCILOR FINAMORE ABOUT THE SANTA CLAUS PARADE DETAILS BECAUSE I DO NOT HAVE TIME TO GET THEM. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

SO THE STATIC SANTA CLAUS PARADE WILL BE HAPPENING ON FRIDAY, THE TWENTY SEVENTH OF NOVEMBER, FROM FIVE TO EIGHT O'CLOCK.

THERE'LL BE VARIOUS SPOTS AROUND TOWN.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AROUND THIS WEEK AND NAIL DOWN THE SPOTS FOR SURE THAT WE CAN HAVE BUSSES DRIVE BY AND PEOPLE DRIVE BY SAFELY.

SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS PEOPLE TO THERE'S BEEN 10 SUBMISSIONS SO FAR.

SO WE'RE QUITE EXCITED OF PEOPLE FROM FROM BUSINESSES TO SCHOOLS TO PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE COMING FORWARD AND WANT TO PUT IN A FLOAT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU IS WE'RE GOING TO ASSIGN YOU A SPOT TO PUT YOUR FLOAT AND DECORATE YOUR FLOAT. AND REMEMBER, YOU ONLY HAVE TO DECORATE.

HALF OF IT IS THE ONE THAT FACES THE THE SIDE THAT PEOPLE WILL BE DRIVING.

THE APPLICATIONS ARE ONLINE.

THEY'RE ALSO AT THE WELCOME CENTER AT COLLINS HALL.

YOU CAN CALL MRS. HENNESSY AT EIGHT FOUR NINE SIX THREE SEVEN THREE, IF YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THE APPLICATIONS, WE WOULD LIKE TO BY NOVEMBER 20TH, BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DESIGN THE ROUTE THAT COULD BE AS EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO GET. WE'RE ALSO INVITING PEOPLE TO DECORATE THEIR HOUSES THAT NIGHT.

THERE WILL BE PRIZES THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE, BUSINESSES, EVERYBODY, LET'S GET INVOLVED IN SOME CHRISTMAS SPIRIT.

COVID HAS TAKEN AWAY A LOT FROM US THIS YEAR, BUT THEY CAN'T TAKE AWAY OUR SPIRIT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO SHOW.

THIS COMMUNITY IS ALWAYS ONE THAT RALLIES AROUND EACH OTHER, AND THIS IS A PERFECT TIME TO DO THAT. AND SO IF YOU NEED ANY MORE INFORMATION, DON'T HESITATE TO CONTACT MRS. HENNESSEY AND HER OFFICE'S AT THE COLLINS HALL, AS WELL AS A WELCOME CENTER WHERE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION.

ON REMEMBRANCE DAY, I WOULD LIKE TO WISH ALL THE VETERANS IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALL THE SERVING MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND YOUR WORSHIP, YOU'RE A VETERAN AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE. WATCHING MR. FORD TODAY, I GOT VERY SAD.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY HE WAS GIVING BECAUSE ALL I COULD THINK OF IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY OF OURS, THEY HAVE TO SET ASIDE MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF VETERANS.

HE GAVE A BUNCH OF MONEY TO WORK WITH VETERANS WITH ADDICTIONS AND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

THIS YEAR, WHEN WE DO OUR MOMENT OF SILENCE, I'M GOING TO DO AN EXTRA MOMENT FOR ALL THOSE VETERANS THAT SUFFER FROM MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTIONS FROM THE SERVICE THAT THEY GAVE OUR GREAT COUNTRY.

IT'S NICE THAT THE CANADIAN ARMED FORCES ACKNOWLEDGES THOSE VETERANS THAT HAVE LOST THEIR LIFE AT THEIR OWN HAND BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY'VE EXPERIENCED IN THEIR JOBS.

THIS IS THEIR LIFE AND THIS IS THEIR JOBS.

AND SOME OF THEM, WE GET TO GO HOME AFTER WORK AND JUST LIVE OUR LIFE.

AND WHEREVER THEY GO, THEY TAKE IT WITH THEM.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT ON REMEMBRANCE DAY AS WELL.

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT WHO LOST THEIR LIVES.

IT'S ABOUT WHO LIVES. IT'S ABOUT SOLDIERS TODAY, THE FAMILIES THAT LIVED THROUGH A LIVING HELL AFTERWARDS.

AND I REMEMBER MY FATHER AFTER WORLD WAR TWO.

NOW, I KNOW HE HAD POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS.

I HAD NO IDEA AS A CHILD THAT'S WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THEM.

BUT TODAY I CAN IDENTIFY THAT THAT WAS FROM WORLD WAR TWO, THAT WHAT WAS WRONG WITH HIM.

AND SO I JUST WANT US ALL TO JUST REMEMBER NOT ONLY THOSE THAT SERVE, BUT THEIR FAMILIES AND THOSE THAT STRUGGLE BECAUSE THEY SERVED.

COUNCILOR TURNER, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD TO THE COUNCIL'S REPORT.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I WANT TO THANK ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FOR THE WORDS OF REMEMBRANCE.

I HOPE EVERYBODY IS ABLE TO GET OUT THERE SOMETIME.

NOVEMBER 11TH AND SPEND A MOMENT TO THINK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST 100 AND SOME YEARS TO THIS COUNTRY.

THE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IS LATELY THERE HAVE BEEN A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF OPIOID OVERDOSES IN [INAUDIBLE] AND OPP HAVE BEEN GOING GANGBUSTERS, STOPPING CARS, TRAVELING BETWEEN THOSE TWO POINTS ON 17 AND FINDING

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AND I WOULD I THINK IT WOULD BE SILLY TO THINK THAT NONE OF THAT STUFF EVER ROLLS THROUGH ELLIOT LAKE IN OUR DRUG STORES OUR FREE NALOXONE KITS AND NALOXONE KITS ARE SO SIMPLE. IT'S A NASAL SPRAY INJECTOR, TINY LITTLE THING, PUT TWO FINGERS AND A THUMB ON IT. PRESS IT.

YOU COULD SAVE A LIFE.

THESE THINGS ARE FREE AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY TO THROW ONE IN THE GLOVE BOX OR THE TRUNK OF THE CAR. AND PERHAPS, JUST PERHAPS BY ACCIDENT OR HAPPENSTANCE, YOU MIGHT SAVE A LIFE. SO THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER ADDITIONS TO THE COUNCIL'S REPORT? I'M GOING TO HIT THE BIG TICKET ITEMS. I KNOW ONE PERSON THAT SAYS THE ONLY REASON THEY WATCH OUR COUNCIL MEETING IS TO HEAR HOW MUCH MONEY WE SPEND MONTHLY, SO THIS IS FOR YOU.

HYDRO ONE OCTOBER SIXTY NINE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED.

OCTOBER MUNICIPAL [INAUDIBLE] TWO HUNDRED FOUR THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED RECEIVER GENERAL FIFTY NINE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED ALGOMA DISTRICT SERVICE ADMINISTRATION BOARD OCTOBER MUNICIPAL LEVY ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY TWO THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED ALGOMA PUBLIC HEALTH FOURTH QUARTER LEVY NINETY SEVEN THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED APPROACH NAVIGATION SYSTEMS SOLAR AIRFIELD [INAUDIBLE] ONE HUNDRED FORTY THREE THOUSAND BDO CANADA YEAR END SERVICES TWENTY ONE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED, [INAUDIBLE] CONSTRUCTION FOR SEPTEMBER LANDFILL SERVICE DRIVEWAY MIX, OPSS MPA TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED LEROY CONSTRUCTION PINE POPULAR PAYMENT CERTIFICATE NUMBER TWO TWO HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND FIVE SEVENTY FIVE MUNICIPAL PROPERTY ASSESSMENT FOURTH QUARTER PROPERTY ASSESSMENTS THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED NORTECH POWER AND CONTROLS FOX DRIVE LITH STATION SERVICES FORTY THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED [INAUDIBLE] FORTY THREE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED.

TULLOCH ENGINEERING PINE POPULAR REHAB ENGINEERING RETAINER SPORTS HUB ANALYSIS VALLEY CRESCENT [INAUDIBLE]. LANDFILL EXPANSION.

EDO MAPPING AND BUILDING INSPECTIONS.

THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED.

THAT'S IT FOR COUNCIL'S REPORT.

ADDENDUM. WE DO HAVE AN ADDENDUM THIS EVENING, I'D LOOK FOR A MOVER TO PUT THE ADDENDUM ON

[14. ADDENDUM]

ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS WITH ADDING THE ADDENDUM? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED.

NEXT FOURTEEN POINT ONE, REPORT FROM THE CAO.

A TENTATIVE AGREEMENT WITH QP LOCAL 170, AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH EMPLOYEE NEGOTIATIONS AND LABOR RELATIONS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION AS PER SECTION 239 [INAUDIBLE] OF THE [INAUDIBLE].

MOVER TO PUT THAT IN CLOSED SESSION? MOVED BY COUNCILOR FINAMORE, SECOND BY COUNCILOR CYR.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? COUNCILOR PATRIE? BASED ON THE EMAILS THAT WE GOT EARLIER TODAY, DO WE NEED TO TAKE THIS IN CLOSED SESSION OR? MR. GAGNON? WE DO NEED TO TAKE IT INTO CLOSED, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE BRIEFED AND THEN QP LOCAL 170 IS MEETING TO RATIFY IN ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF.

SO WE'RE JUST FROM A SEQUENCING OF EVENTS.

WE WANT TO LET QP HAVE THEIR VOTE.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO DISCLOSE ANY DETAILS YET.

BUT THEY ALSO NEED AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEF COUNCIL ON WHAT'S IN THAT TENTATIVE AGREEMENT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE APPROVE IT IN PRINCIPLE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE RETURN TO OPEN SESSION, WE'LL WAIT FOR QP TO RATIFY.

AND THEN AT THE NEXT PROBABLY THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING WILL BE ABLE TO UNVEIL ANY DETAILS PUBLICLY. OK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED TO CLOSE SESSION.

15 INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF BYLAWS, FIFTEEN POINT ONE BYLAW 20-81 BEING A BYLAW

[15. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF BY-LAWS]

MOVER, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILOR SECOND BY COUNCILOR TURNER.

ANY QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES.

NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED.

NO PUBLIC QUESTIONS THIS EVENING OR IF THERE IS, I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY.

MS. BRAY NOTHING? OKAY CLOSED SESSION.

MOVER TO GO IN CLOSED SESSION.

[17. CLOSED SESSION (if applicable]

WE'RE NOW CLOSED SESSION.

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

[01:45:03]

THAT'S CARRIED. WE'RE NOW OUT A CLOSED SESSION, BACK IN OPEN SESSION.

AND I'D ASK MS. BRAY TO READ OUT THE RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE TENTATIVE AGREEMENT WITH QP LOCAL 170 IN PRINCIPLE, AS DISCLOSED AT THE NOVEMBER 9TH COUNCIL MEETING, AND THAT THE REQUIRED BY LAW BE PASSED FOLLOWING THE QP LOCAL RATIFICATION VOTE.

MOVED BY COUNCILOR PATRIE, SECOND BY COUNCILOR TURNER.

ANY CONCERNS.

SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE THEN.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU. OK, CONFIRMATORY BYLAW EIGHTEEN POINT ONE,

[18. CONFIRMATORY BY-LAW]

MOVER, PLEASE.

MOVE BY COUNCILOR CYR, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR TURNER.

QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL, VOTE:.

THANK YOU. MOTION TO ADJOURN.

MOVED BY COUNCILOR PATRIE, SECOND BY COUNCILOR FINAMORE, ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED. WE'RE NOW ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.