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A MEETING OF COUNCIL FOR THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE FRIDAY, JANUARY 29TH, 2021.
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
THE TIME IS 4 P.M.AS FAR AS ROLL CALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COUNCILLOR CYR WHO SENDS HIS REGRETS THIS EVENING.
IS THERE ANY DECLARATIONS OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST THIS EVENING? ONCE, TWICE AND THREE TIMES SEEING NONE.
NO PUBLIC PRESENTATION, NO CORRESPONDENTS REPORT, SIX POINT ONE REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR
[6.1. Report from the Director of Public Works]
OF PUBLIC WORKS RE THE EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT TOWARDS REPAIR REPLACEMENT OF CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE GRADER RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF REPORT DATED JANUARY 27 2021.THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED NOT THE EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT MEASURES FOUND IN SECTION EIGHT OF THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE PROCUREMENT POLICY BE USED TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO PURCHASE ONE 2021 CATERPILLAR MOTOR GRADER FROM TOROMONT INDUSTRIES LTD.
FOR THE PRICE OF THREE HUNDRED FIFTEEN THOUSAND PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES.
CAN I HAVE A MOVER TO START THIS? COUNCILLOR MANN.
SECONDER. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
THANK YOU. AND I'LL HAND IT OVER TO MR HALLOCH.
THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU, SO BACKGROUND FOR EVERYONE AT HOME IS BASICALLY OK, SO THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE GRADER WAS TAKEN OUT OF SERVICE ON JANUARY 21 2021 DUE TO A CIRCLE DRIVE ASSEMBLY AND CURRENTLY REQUIRES A NEW CIRCLE MOUNTING AND DRAW BAR ASSEMBLY.
THESE REPAIRS DEAL WITH THE MAIN COMPONENTS ON THE GRADER THAT HAVE WORN OUT OVER THE YEARS DUE TO IT, DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF WORK IT DOES IN SERVICE HOURS.
AS EVERYONE KNOWS, THE GRADER IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT IN THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR CITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND IS USED THROUGHOUT THE WINTER MONTHS FOR LEVELING OF ROADS, LOWERING OF SNOW BANKS AND CLEARING OF SNOW FROM PARKING AREAS, AS WELL AS IN THE SUMMER MONTHS TO GRADE THE ROADS IN THE RURAL AREAS OF THE CITY.
ALTHOUGH THE 2020 WINTER HAS NOT RESULTED IN THE ACCUMULATION OF SNOW AS SEEN IN THE PREVIOUS FIVE YEARS, STAFF REALIZES THAT ONLY A MATTER OF TIME UNTIL A STORM OR TWO HITS OUR AREA. WITH THIS IN MIND, HAVING A GRADER AN OPERATION IS CRITICAL TO MAINTAINING CURRENT LEVELS OF SERVICE.
IN 2014 FOR A HISTORY ON IT, THE CITY PURCHASED THE CURRENT 2013 ONE FORTY M2 MOTOR GRADER FROM TOROMONT, WHICH REPLACED THE OLDER 1990 SIMILAR GRADER THAT HAD A COST THAT ACTUALLY HAD A HYDRAULIC SYSTEM FAILURE THAT WASN'T WORTH FIXING.
SO THE CITY DECIDED TO PURCHASE A NEW UNIT.
THE 1990 UNIT USED TO AVERAGE AROUND FOUR TO FIVE HUNDRED HOURS OF SERVICE, WHICH WAS MAINLY INCLUSIVE TO REMOVAL OF JUST IN THE WINTER TO ONE OR TWO OF THE ROADS GRADED IN THE SUMMER WOULD BE LIKE [INAUDIBLE] BOAT LAUNCH THAT'S ALL IT WOULD USUALLY DO FOR THERE.
WITH THE COMPLETION OF THE COTTAGE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IN 2019 CAME THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MAINTAINING ALL THE ACCESS ROADS THROUGHOUT THE RURAL AREAS.
AND THERE'S SEVENTY SEVEN KILOMETERS IN TOTAL.
ULTIMATELY, THIS RESULTED IN THE END OF THE LINE REGARDING THE 1990 GRADER, WHICH COULDN'T HANDLE THE EXTRA FIVE HUNDRED HOURS OF WORKLOAD, ESPECIALLY AT THE AGE IT WAS AT. TOROMONT CREDITED THE CITY THIRTY FOUR THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED FOR THE OLDER GRADER WITH A TOTAL OF SEVENTY NINE HUNDRED WORKING HOURS ON IT TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF THE CURRENT 2013 ONE.
SO OVER THE PAST SEVEN YEARS, THE CURRENT GRADER, WHICH WE HAVE IN SERVICE RIGHT NOW, IT'S ACCUMULATED ALMOST THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF HOURS.
SO SEVENTY EIGHT HUNDRED HOURS, WHICH AVERAGES JUST OVER A THOUSAND HOURS OF SERVICE ANNUALLY. SO AFTER HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CAO, THE DECISION TO PROCEED WITH THE REPORT TO COUNCIL IS THE FOLLOWING OPTIONS.
SO BASICALLY, WE LOOKED OVER MANY OPTIONS TO GO OVER WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS.
ONE OF THE OPTIONS COMING THROUGH WAS THE CURRENT 2013 GRADER REQUIRES THE REPLACEMENT OF THE PARTS THAT I MENTIONED ABOVE AND YOUR WAS WILLING TO DO THESE REPAIRS AT A COST OF EIGHTY TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN DOLLARS PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES, WHICH INCLUDES PARTS AND LABOR.
THE GRADER WOULD NEED TO BE FLOATED TO AND FROM TOROMONT IN SUDBURY FOR THE ADDITIONAL COST OF THREE THOUSAND PLUS HST.
TOROMONT CAN HAVE TWO TWO OF THE THREE PARTS IN IN SEVEN DAYS.
SO THAT BASICALLY IF WE DECIDED TO GO WITH THIS, BUT THERE WAS A DELAY IN ONE OF THE PARTS. SO IF YOU'RE GETTING ALL NEW PARTS ON AN ACTUAL GRADER, YOU'RE LOOKING TO HAVE ALL THREE OF THEM TOGETHER. AND THERE WAS A DELAY OF THE ONE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT EARLY MARCH. SO BASICALLY WHAT THIS DOES IS IT LOOKS IF WE DECIDED IF THERE WAS EVER A DECISION TO GO WITH THE REPAIR, NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A TWO MONTH PERIOD WHERE WE'D BE LOOKING AT RENTING A GRADER AND RIGHT NOW DUE TO THE WINTERS BEFORE, THERE'S NOT TOO MANY OF THEM OUT THERE. BUT ON AVERAGE, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS ABOUT TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH TO RENT A GRADER UNTIL THE ACTUAL REPAIRS WOULD BE COMPLETED.
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SO THAT WAS THAT WAS A HARD THING TO SWALLOW AT THAT POINT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO OTHER WAY TO GET THAT PART, WHICH WAS THE [INAUDIBLE] ASSEMBLY PART BEFORE THAT TIME.SO BASICALLY, WE LOOKED AT IT.
ANOTHER THING THAT WAS DECIDED IS THE REPAIRS REALLY DON'T INCREASE THE PRICE MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE GETTING WHEN I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT IN THE NEXT SECTION OF WHAT WE'RE OFFERED FOR THE OLD ONE FROM TOROMONT FOR ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS RIGHT NOW IF IT INCREASED.
SO IF WE PUT ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND INTO IT, WE'RE LOOKING AT BASICALLY GETTING A VALUE OF AROUND ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THE MARKET IF WE DECIDED TO SELL AT THAT POINT AFTERWARDS. SO BASICALLY LOOKING INTO THE TO THE NEXT ONE WAS TOROMONT CURRENTLY HAS A BRAND NEW 2021 GRADER AVAILABLE IN [INAUDIBLE] THAT CAN BE SHIPPED TO ELLIOTT LAKE IF APPROVED, THE GRADER COMES EQUIPPED WITH A WING BLADE AND A BULL NOSE BLADE, AS WELL AS WINTER TIRES FOR A COST OF FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
NOW A REPRESENTATIVE FROM TOROMONT ALONG WITH A MECHANIC, WAS ON SITE TO INSPECT THE CITY GRADER, ALONG WITH TAKING PHOTOS.
AND AS I MENTIONED, AFTER IT WENT TO HEAD OFFICE AND CAME BACK, THEY WERE GOING TO OFFER US ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN THOUSAND.
NOW, I KNOW FROM ALL THE RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE, LOOKING AT THINGS THAT ARE ON SALE WITH SIMILAR SIMILAR ACTUAL HOURS ON IT THAT ARE IN WORKING ORDER USUALLY, SELL LIKE I SAID, AROUND ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND FOR A VALUE ABOUT THAT AGE AND EVERYTHING.
SO THEY'VE ACTUALLY MADE ONE HUNDRED FIFTEEN THOUSAND FROM WHAT I CAN DETERMINE IS, IS THEY'VE OFFERED US A HIGHER VALUE FOR THE UNIT RIGHT NOW BEING IN THE CONDITION IT IS WITHOUT IT BEING REPAIRED.
THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS THAT WE'VE RECOGNIZED ON THE GRADER THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, THE WING AND THE BULL NOSE BLADE ARE TWO.
TWO PIECES OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED IN THE FUTURE AS WELL, AND THAT'S A THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR OPTION RIGHT THERE.
BASICALLY, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS NO EQUIPMENT DESIGNED TO COVER US WHEN WE WHEN THE ACTUAL GRADER IS DOWN.
SO IT SAYS AS EARLY IN THE SEASON, WITH A HIGH PROBABILITY OF FURTHER SNOW EVENTS, IT HAS BECOME VERY APPARENT THA THERE COULD END UP BEING DANGEROUS CONDITIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT IF WE END UP WITH THESE STORMS THAT DON'T HAVE A GRADER TO CLEAR THE ROADS OF ANY ICE OR SNOW THAT NORMALLY BUILDS UP, THAT THE GRADER TAKES CARE OF THE PROCESS OF THE EMERGENCY WAS ENTERTAINED ON THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT ANY EQUIPMENT PURCHASED MUST MEET ACCEPTABLE STANDARDS FOR THE MUNICIPAL PURPOSES.
SO BASICALLY, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING, WE WANT TO REPLACE THE UNIT WITH EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE WITH ALL THE SPECIFICATIONS, SO WHEN ARE SPECIFICATIONS, INCLUDING SNOW BULL NOSE WING AND WINTER SERVICE PACKAGE.
THE HORSEPOWER RATING, NO LESS THAN THE EXISTING UNIT, COMPARABLE FUEL CONSUMPTION, ELECTRONIC OVER SOLENOID CONTROL, SUITABLE DIMENSIONS TO FIT AN EXISTING PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT BAY AND ADEQUATE TURNING READINESS FOR THE USE IN TIGHT AREAS, INCLUDING THE CENTRAL COMMERCIAL AREA.
SOME STUFF THAT I FOUND OUT AFTER THE FACT, TOO, IS WE'RE GOING INTO THE GRADER THE BRAND NEW GRADER WOULD BE AN ALL WHEEL DRIVE GRADER.
SO WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO PUSHING SNOW, WHEN WE GET INTO THE BIGGER LOADS, THIS MAKES THAT MUCH EASIER AND LESS ON THE ACTUAL MOTOR BECAUSE NOW YOU'VE GOT GRIP WITH ALL ALL TIRES MOVING AT THE SAME TIME.
BASICALLY THE OTHER THING THAT I FOUND OUT AS WELL IS THAT THE TOROMONT IS WILLING TO INSTALL A EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLAR AUTO GREASER ONTO THE NEW UNIT IF APPROVED.
SO BASICALLY THAT TAKES CARE OF THERE'S SO MANY GREASE AREAS ON THE ACTUAL UNIT AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD INSTALL ANYWAY.
SO IF ALL OF A SUDDEN WE PURCHASED THE NEW ONE AND IT WAS GOOD TO GO, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'D SPEND THE EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DO.
SO THEY'VE OFFERED THAT AS WELL AS THE MAINTENANCE PACKAGE TO ON TO IT.
SO IT'S GOT A NINE YEAR, NINE THOUSAND HOUR MAINTENANCE PACKAGE WHERE THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE FILTERS ON THE UNIT.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER BIG PLUS ON THAT ONE.
PLUS THEY'RE GOING TO ADD FENDERS ON THE UNIT WOULD BE ABOUT FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS SO THAT IT WOULD ALL BE INCLUDED IN THE NEW PURCHASE AS WELL.
BASICALLY, THE OTHER OPTION TO LIKE THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS GOING WITH THE STANDARD PROCUREMENT PROCESS FOR THE PURCHASE, BUT THIS WOULD TAKE APPROXIMATELY FOUR TO SIX MONTHS FROM DEVELOPMENT OF THE TENDER DOCUMENT AWARDING THE TENDER DELIVERY OF THE UNIT.
THIS WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY TO RENT A GRADER AT TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH UNTIL THE NEW GRADER WAS DELIVERED ON SITE.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE IF IT EVER WAS PUT TOGETHER WITH THE REPAIR OPTION, BUT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE HUNDRED FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS PLUS, HE'S STILL LOOKING AT SPENDING THAT ON THE REPAIRS MOVING FORWARD EITHER WAY.
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SO BASICALLY, WHEN YOU GET TO THE FINANCIAL SECTION OF IT, THE UNIT RIGHT NOW IS OFFERED AT FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.THE TRADE IN VALUE WOULD BE ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN THOUSAND.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE UNIT COSTING THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN THOUSAND PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES. IF WE DECIDE ON THE PURCHASE.
AND THE PRICE OF THE REPAIR YOU'RE LOOKING AT EIGHTY TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED THIRTY SEVEN PLUS THE FLOATING COST OF THREE THOUSAND TOTAL COST TO RENT THE GRADER.
IF WE'RE LOOKING AT TWENTY OR TWO MONTHS TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONE HUNDRED FIVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED THIRTY SEVEN AND YOU STILL HAVE A GRADER THAT HAS EIGHT THOUSAND HOURS ON IT.
ALSO QUESTIONS THAT A LOT OF THE RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE LATELY TOO, AND ASK THE QUESTIONS LOOKING ONLINE AT WHAT THEY'RE SELLING FOR, A LOT OF THE VALUE OF A GRADER DIMINISHES, EVEN INCREASES LIKE BIG TIME AFTER YOU START GETTING OVER TEN THOUSAND SERVICE HOURS ON IT.
A LOT OF COMPANIES OUT THERE AND MUNICIPALITIES HAVE STARTED TO NOTICE.
A LOT OF THEM ACTUALLY KEEP A GRADER IN STOCK AND SELL IT AROUND NINE TO TEN YEARS.
THAT GETS THEM THE VALUE OF THEIR CURRENT GRADER USUALLY.
LIKE I SAID, ANYWHERE FROM ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN, DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF SERVICE HOURS ON IT, ANYWHERE FROM ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN LIKE WE SEE UP TO ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND. SO IN SUMMARY, WE ALL KNOW HOW CRITICAL COMPONENT THE GRADER IS TO THE CITY AND THE SERVICES OFFERED STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT COUNCIL APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF THE NEW GRADER FOR THREE HUNDRED FIFTEEN THOUSAND PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES, WHICH CAN BE DELIVERED WITHIN BASICALLY, NEXT WEEK, IF WE DECIDE TO GO WITH THE PURCHASE, IT CAN BE DELIVERED ON SITE.
THE OTHER THING, TOO, I WANT TO MENTION AS WELL, WE HAVE ABOUT TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF STOCK IN OUR WAREHOUSE, AND WE'VE CONFIRMED AND VERIFIED THAT ALL THOSE PARTS CAN GO ON TO THE NEW GRADER AS WELL.
SO WE COULD USE ALL THOSE PARTS ON THE NEW GRADER.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD THING NOTICING ON THAT.
SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, HANDS HAVE BEEN UP.
FIRST, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU THIS IS LOOKING AT COMING OUT OF WORKING FUNDS RESERVE.
I WAS EXPECTING TO SEE MORE OF THE CITY'S FLEET RESERVE, AND I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT OUR FUTURE PURCHASES TO BE LOOKING AT THIS PURCHASE TWO YEARS EARLY.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW IS, YOU'RE CORRECT, WE HAD THIS ON THE ACTUAL THE FLEET FIVE YEAR PLAN AND IT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO COME OUT OF THE FLEET RESERVES.
SO THERE WOULD BE HAVE TO BE AT SOME POINT.
AND AFTER TALKING TO AMY, THERE WOULD BE A TRANSFER OF MONEY FROM THE WORKING FUNDS TO THE FLEET FOR THE DIFFERENCE.
BUT IT WOULD BE COMING OUT OF FLEET RESERVE.
AND ACTUALLY, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, I WAS RIGHT ON THE FENCE OF WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DECIDE TO DO AT ONE POINT.
BUT THE MORE I DID RESEARCH ON IT AND STUFF, THE VALUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET NOW COMPARED TO AND THE OTHER THING I STARTED NOTICING IN THE INCREASES OF THE PRICE OF THE GRADER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT A GRADER IS GOING TO BE WORTH IN 40 YEARS FROM NOW, BUT I DO KNOW IF WE RUN THE ACTUAL UNIT REPAIR AND FIX IT AND RUN IT, WE'RE GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE AROUND FOURTEEN THOUSAND SERVICE HOURS.
WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE DIPPING THE UNIT TO BE UNDER FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS OR NOT LESS. SO FINANCIALLY, I'M NOW THINKING THIS IS THE RIGHT DECISION TO DO FOR SURE BECAUSE OF BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE AND NOT KNOWING WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE GOING TO BE PAYING FOR A NEW GRADER.
BECAUSE A LOT OF THE THINGS AND WITH COVID, AS WE ALL KNOW, A LOT OF PRICES HAVE GONE UP WITH EVERYTHING ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL STILL BE EFFECTIVE IN FOUR YEARS, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THERE'S A DOMINO EFFECT OF EVERYTHING.
SO IT'S THE UNKNOWN OF WHAT THE NEW COST IS GOING TO BE.
UNLESS HE DIDN'T LIKE MY ANSWER.
WELL. I HAVE A QUESTION. OK? I SPOKE WITH MR. HALLOCH YESTERDAY AND HE SATISFIED ALL MY ANSWERS.
IT'S NOT BAD MAINTENANCE AND IT'S NOT ABUSE OF THE MACHINERY.
IT'S JUST THE WAY THE MACHINERY'S ARE BUILT.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE SUCH GREAT TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY DON'T THEY DON'T BUILD THEM TO
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MAKE THEM LAST LONGER. THEY MAKE THEM, I THINK, BUILD THEM TO BE MORE EXPENDABLE.SO I GUESS MOVING FORWARD, YOU'RE GETTING A NINE YEAR WARRANTY ON A MACHINE THAT MAYBE ONLY WILL LAST US SEVEN YEARS, BUT AT LEAST WE'LL BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE FILTERS RIGHT TO THE END OF THIS ONE, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE I DON'T SEE THE NEEDS CHANGING FOR THE MUNICIPALITY. THIS WILL STILL GRADE ROADS AND IT WILL STILL DO WINTER AND WE CAN'T DO WITHOUT IT. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN RENTING ANYTHING.
I THINK IF WE HAVE TO DO THIS, I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION IS, IF YOU WENT UP AN EXTRA HUNDRED THOUSAND HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS, WOULD IT GET YOU A MACHINE THAT WAS.
I'M NOT THE NERD OF THE GROUP, BUT A HEAVIER DUTY MACHINE THAT WOULD LAST MAYBE 10 YEARS.
THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION IS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT BUYING BARE BONES MINIMUM BOTTOM OF THE LINE, JUST BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING TO GET SOMETHING THAT FITS WHAT WE NEED.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I'M GOING TO ADD A FEW THINGS TO THIS, TOO, AS WELL.
SO THE ACTUAL GRADER THAT WE HAVE IS DEFINITELY THE PERFECT SIZE GRADER.
WHAT IT IS, IS THE ACTUAL GRADER WHEN IT COMES TO MUNICIPALITIES, WHEN YOU'RE BUYING THIS GRADER. THIS IS ACTUALLY CLOSER TO LIKE A SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR GRADER THAT I FOUND OF ANY CONTRACTORS AND COMPANIES LIKE THAT THAT WOULD GO OUT AND BUY THIS.
THAT'S THE PRICES THEY'RE LOOKING AT BECAUSE IT'S A MUNICIPALITY SELL, WE GET IT AT FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS YOU ARE CORRECT ABOUT THE OFFER.
IT'S DEFINITELY THE RIGHT UNIT ABOUT THE OPERATORS AND THE MECHANICS.
MOST TIMES WE'RE CHANGING THOSE FILTERS THAT IF THEY REQUEST A THOUSAND, JUST LIKE A VEHICLE SAYING THAT CHANGE OIL AT TEN THOUSAND, MOST PEOPLE DO IT AT FIVE.
WELL, WE'RE THE SAME. WE DO A LOT OF THOSE THINGS WELL AHEAD OF TIME.
SO WE'RE SWITCHING ALL THAT OUT.
AND JUST TO MENTION, IT'S A NINE YEAR MAINTENANCE PROGRAM ADDED ON TO IT.
BUT THEY ARE WE DO ALSO HAVE A FOUR YEAR EXTENDED WARRANTY, WHICH I BELIEVE IT'S FIVE THOUSAND SERVICE HOURS.
NORMALLY, IT'S JUST A ONE YEAR COMPLETE OR THREE THOUSAND, I BELIEVE OURS.
BUT THEY'VE ADDED THE EXTENDED WARRANTY IN THERE AS WELL.
THE OTHER THING THAT I'M DOING, TOO, IS WELL WITH THE DEPARTMENT.
AFTER TALKING, WE JUST INVESTED IN A DIAGNOSTIC TOOL THROUGH TOROMONT.
SO BASICALLY WE COULD PLUG IT INTO ANY OF THE CATERPILLAR EQUIPMENT.
WE COULD READ THE CODES, WE COULD CLEAR THE CODES.
IT SHOWS US HOW TO REPAIR IT INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM COME UP AT THEIR HOURLY WAGES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER BONUS ON THAT.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DETECT THINGS A LOT EARLIER.
SO IF THERE IS THINGS THAT MIGHT HAVE WENT TOO FAR BEFORE THEY WERE ACTUALLY REPAIRED BEFORE THIS, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS THE CASE BECAUSE THIS IS A WEAR AND TEAR THING, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DIAGNOSE THAT OURSELVES.
THE OTHER THING WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE ADDING WE HAVE THE GO GPS ON A LOT OF OUR VEHICLES.
WELL WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING IT ON TO THE GRADER AS WELL.
THERE IS SPEEDS THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW WHEN YOU'RE GRADING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE JUST GOING TO JUST CONFIRM IT.
WE BELIEVE THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGING OF GUARDS WHEN IT COMES TO 30 YEAR OR 30 YEAR OPERATION EQUIPMENT OPERATORS THAT HAVE LEFT US.
NOW I BELIEVE THEY ARE GREAT ON THE ACTUAL MACHINE.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF NOW WE'LL BE ABLE TO TRACK THOSE AND HAVE REPORTS COME TO ME SO I CAN LOOK OVER THEM AND THE SAME THING, SIT DOWN WITH THE MECHANICS AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S RUN GOOD THAT WAY.
SO THERE IS THINGS THAT I'M DOING LEARNING FROM THIS EXPERIENCE SO THAT WE TRACK THINGS A LOT BETTER AND THEN A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, OF COURSE, PROGRAM THAT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE ON COMPUTER.
A LOT OF STUFF IS STILL PAPER DRIVEN.
AND IF A FIRE RIPPED THROUGH HERE, WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE SHOULD HAVE ON COMPUTERS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'M BRINGING FORWARD TO COUNCIL IN THE NEXT MONTH AS WELL.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND SOME COMMENTS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
I DID WANT TO TOUCH MAYOR MARCHISELLA AND ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT RESERVES.
OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE WITHIN, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THERE WOULD BE ALLOCATIONS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FROM THE FLEET RESERVE FOR THIS.
SO OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THAT WOULD GO AND THEN THE WORKING FUNDS WOULD OFFSET.
THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE MY ASSUMPTION AS WELL AS COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
I'M NOT INTERESTED IN REPAIRING A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AT THIS POINT.
THAT'S ONLY WORTH ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
IF WE'RE ALMOST SPENDING ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND IN TOTAL TO FIX IT AND GET IT BACK TO US AND WE LOSE WINTER.
WE HAD AN ISSUE MANY YEARS AGO WHERE I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THE DUMP TRUCKS.
THE ENGINE WENT IN, SO WE REPLACED THE ENGINES AND THEN THE YEAR AFTER THAT, THE FRAME RAILS FAILED. SO WE REPLACED THE FRAME RAILS ON THE DUMP TRUCK.
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SO AGAIN, YOU START GETTING INTO AT WHAT POINT? BUT I GUESS THE REAL POINT I HAVE IS IF THIS EQUIPMENT IS NOT GOING TO LAST TOWARDS OUR ORIGINAL LIFESPAN ESTIMATES, HOW DO WE MITIGATE AGAINST THAT MOVING FORWARD.IF OUR PLOWING AND ROAD MAINTENANCE HAS CHANGED THAT SIGNIFICANTLY, THAT WE'RE SHRINKING AT 12 OR 14 YEAR PURCHASE INTO SEVEN? HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE IN THIS POSITION IN ANOTHER SEVEN YEARS? AND WHAT KIND OF STRATEGIES CAN WE DO TO MITIGATE? I GUESS THAT'S REALLY WHERE I'M KIND OF AND I HAD TALKED TO MR. HALLOCH EARLIER, AND I'M COMFORTABLE WITH ALL THE MAINTENANCE AND EVERYTHING ELSE AS WELL. BUT THAT WOULD BE KIND OF MY QUESTION.
NOT THAT WE NEED TWO OF THESE THINGS, BUT HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THIS EVERY SEVEN YEARS? SO MY ANSWER TO YOU WOULD BE EXACTLY SOME OF THE POINTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BROUGHT FORWARD TO COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
BUT THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THIS YEAR IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO TEST OUT THE GROUND UP ASPHALT AND WE'RE GOING TO BE TESTING IT IN A FEW SPOTS. SO THERE COULD BE AREAS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING OUT ON THE RURAL ROADS AND [INAUDIBLE] ROAD AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT ARE MORE THE HILLY AREAS THAT IF THIS WORKS OUT, WE COULD APPLY THAT OUT THERE.
AND THAT'S GOING TO PREVENT US FROM HAVING TO GO BACK IN AND HIT THE SPOTS OF CONCERN WHERE THE WASH BOARD ALWAYS GOES SO EVEN IF WE'RE STILL DOING IT, WE WE COULD ELIMINATE A LOT OF THOSE. AND THEN LOOK AT THE FACT OF THESE ARE THINGS LIKE WE LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE. I KNOW THAT STAND ROCK IS A VERY FLAT ROAD AND IT MAINTAINS ITSELF A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN WHERE YOU SEE THE HILLS.
AND WE KNOW THERE'S DIFFERENT REASONS WHY IT HAPPENS AND SPEED IS A FACTOR AND SO MANY OTHER FACTORS AS WELL.
BUT POSSIBLY BY EITHER SURFACE TREATING OR LOOKING INTO CERTAIN AREAS OF SURFACE OR DEFINITELY THIS GROUND UP ASPHALT, IF THIS WORKS AND WE TEST IT OUT, THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG THING. THAT'LL TAKE AWAY A LOT OF AREA THAT WILL NO LONGER NEED THE GRADE.
SO THAT'LL BE A BIG THING, TOO.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THEM. ALONG WITH THE OTHER ONES, THOUGH, SO THAT WE CATCH PROBLEMS IN TIME AND AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY TRAINING TO OPERATORS TO MAKE THEM COMFORTABLE WITH EVERYTHING THEY'RE DOING AND FOLLOWING, WHICH I BELIEVE THEY DO, BUT STILL CONFIRMING THAT WE FOLLOW ALL THE SPEED LIMITS THAT YOU WANT TO GO WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE GRADING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND I BELIEVE THAT WILL PROLONG THE LIFE.
BUT I ALSO BELIEVE WE SIT DOWN AND REALLY LOOK AT WHAT IS THE BEST YEAR TO GET RID OF SOMETHING AND STILL HAVE VALUE TO THE OTHER ONE.
I WAS IN THE BELIEF, AS EVERYBODY ELSE, THAT YOU LOOK AT A GRADER AND IF IT'S A 20 YEAR SOMETHING THAT LASTS FOR 20 YEARS, BUT IT DEFINITELY GOES BY SERVICE HOURS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DOUBLED UP.
AND I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN REDUCE WITH SOME OF THESE IDEAS IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU. APOLOGIES, I HAD A GLITCH IN THE MATRIX HERE, COUNCILLOR PATRIE, YOU'RE UP NEXT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THROUGH YOU SO I WENT AND MET WITH MR. HALLOCH AND HIS STAFF AT THE GARAGES WHILE COUNCILLOR FINAMORE ASKING THE FACT THAT SHOULD WE BE BUYING A BIGGER, BETTER MACHINE THAT MACHINES AND ACTUALLY VERY, VERY GOOD SHAPE OTHER THAN A FEW PROBLEMS THAT ARE HAPPENING BECAUSE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO THIS PART ISN'T WORN OUT PER SAY.
AND IT'S DAMAGED BECAUSE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO OUR BUDGET MEETINGS AND I'M GOING TO STATE WE HAVE TO BE SPENDING OUR MONEY CAUTIOUSLY AND IN THE RIGHT PLACES. SO THE BULK OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THIS GEAR HAS BENT.
IT'S NOT WORN OUT, IT'S ACTUALLY BENT AND IT'S BENT FROM CATCHING.
AND I BELIEVE MR. HALLOCH AND THE STAFF SAYING THAT IT'S BENT BECAUSE THEY'RE CATCHING CATCH BASINS AND WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME ISSUES ON THOSE BACK ROADS THAT MR. HALLOCH HAS MENTIONED AS WELL.
SO IN ALL ESSENCE WE'RE ACTUALLY DETRIMENTAL TO THE LIFESPAN OF THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT BECAUSE WE AREN'T DOING PROPER INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIR WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY AND IT'S CATCHING TOO MANY MANHOLES AND CATCH BASINS.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING THIS RING TO BEND.
IT'S LIKE THAT'S A FOUR TO FIVE INCH BEND IN A MAJOR PIECE OF STEEL, SO.
I HAD THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, DO YOU REPAIR IT, DO YOU REPLACE IT AND IT IS A 50 50 CALL, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COST TO REPAIR IT AND SPEND, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING WELL OVER ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IF YOU REPAIR IT AND YOU'RE GETTING ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN ON THE TRADE IN.
AND SO I'M LOOKING AT THAT NUMBER IS AN ACTUAL TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR SWING, BECAUSE
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IF YOU DO THE REPAIR AND DRIVE IT TO DEATH, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO DO A LOT OF MAINTENANCE. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MAINTENANCE DONE TO THE ACTUAL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.THEY'VE HAD TO REBUILD THE MOTOR.
THEY HAVEN'T HAD TO DO ANYTHING TO THE TRANSMISSION AS OF YET.
BUT THERE'S THE POTENTIAL OF THAT IF WE KEEP IT.
THERE'S BEEN SOME OTHER WEAR AND TEAR DAMAGE TO OTHER PARTS OF IT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ALLEVIATE BY REPLACING THE UNIT NOW AND NOT HAVING TO DO THOSE REPAIRS SHORTLY DOWN THE ROAD. SO I AM IN FAVOR OF PURCHASING THE NEW ONE AND TAKING IT OUT OF THE FLEET RESERVES. BUT I NEED THIS COUNCIL TO BE VERY COGNIZANT AND UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON CAPITAL, WE HAVE TO START DOING INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE ROADS AND SO FORTH AND GET THIS WORKED UP AND DONE.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD BE SPENDING THAT RESERVE MONEY OUT OF OUR CAPITAL.
IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS, ABSOLUTELY, 100 PERCENT AGREE WE NEED TO BE DOING A LOT MORE ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, BUT THAT ALL TAKES MONEY, AND WHEN WE ONLY SEE NOMINAL INCREASES EVERY YEAR TO BE ABLE TO COVER IT, IT'S HARD TO.
HARD TO DO AS MUCH AS WE'D LIKE TO DO IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S WHY WE WE HAVE A PRIORITIZED LIST AND WE RELY ON INDIVIDUALS LIKE MR. HALLOCH AND HIS TEAM TO LET US KNOW WHERE THE PRIORITIES LAY AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK.
AND I THINK, MR. HALLOCH, YOU'VE DELIVERED THIS EVENING WHERE WHERE IT'S CONCERNING.
WHERE'S THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK? THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF REPORT DATED JANUARY 27, 2021 OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS RECEIVED AN EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT MEASURES FOUND IN SECTION EIGHT OF THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE PROCUREMENT POLICY BE USED TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO PURCHASE ONE 2021 CATERPILLAR MOTOR GRADER FROM TOROMONT INDUSTRIES LTD.
FOR THE PRICE OF THREE HUNDRED FIFTEEN THOUSAND PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES, HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS AND I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE AT THIS TIME AND I'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR MANN.
IN FAVOR YOUR WORSHIP. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
IN FAVOR. AND COUNCILLOR PEARCE.
THANK YOU, MR. HALLOCH, FOR YOUR TIME.
HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND. THANK YOU.
[6.2. Report from the Director of Information Technology]
6.2 REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, REAPPLICATION FOR THE UNIVERSAL BROADBAND FUND.SCROLL DOWN HERE. SO RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO PROCEED WITH USING THE NEGOTIATION METHOD, SECTION D OF THE PROCUREMENT POLICY TO SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT AT AN UPSET LIMIT OF TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES TO AVOID RESEARCH GROUPING TO CONDUCT FEASIBILITY STUDY AND APPLY TO THE FEDERAL UNIVERSAL BROADBAND GRANT ON THE CITY'S BEHALF.
CAN I HAVE A MOVER TO START THIS DISCUSSION? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.
MS. SCOTT, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.
THANK YOU THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP.
THE CITY IS ALREADY INVESTED IN THE BROADBAND FOR THE COTTAGE LOT AREA.
WE'VE DONE THREE PROJECTS IN THE PAST, ONE WITH THE COTTAGES, ONE WITH THE CITY NETWORK, AND WE DID THE HOTSPOTS.
IT'S NOW TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT EQUIPMENT AND GET A BETTER INVENTORY OF IT.
TAKE A LOOK AT THE EXISTING DESIGN WHERE WE CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND TO UPGRADE AND TRY AND FILL IN SOME OF THE GAPS AS WELL.
THE APPLICATION WAS ANNOUNCED IN NOVEMBER.
WE GOT STARTED ON IT A LITTLE AFTER I HAD MY FIRST CALL AROUND NOVEMBER TWENTY FOURTH AND THEN DECEMBER 2ND WAS WHEN WE REALLY STARTED TO RUN.
WE NEED TO GET THIS APPLICATION IN BY FEBRUARY 15TH.
SO WE'VE HAVE A VERY SHORT TIMELINE.
WE'VE WORKED WITH FLOYD IN THE PAST AND IN ORDER TO GET IN RFP OUT TO TRY AND GET A DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS TO COME IN, THEY WOULD ALL HAVE TO DO SITE VISITS TO BECOME FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE HAVE, WHERE FLOYD IS ALREADY VERY FAMILIAR WITH OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE. SO IT'S RECOMMENDED AT THIS TIME THAT WE THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK FLOYD AND THAT WE GET THIS APPLICATION READY FOR SUBMISSION.
I'M NOT SAYING NECESSARILY THAT WE THAT WE DO THE SUBMISSION.
WE HAVE TO HAVE IT READY BY THE FIFTEENTH, BUT WE ALLOW THEM TO DO THE FEASIBILITY STUDY TO COME UP WITH THE NETWORK DESIGN, WHICH WITHIN THE CITY AS A TEAM WILL DECIDE WHICH WAY
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WE THINK WE BEST GO AND THEN COMPLETE AND GET US READY FOR THAT APPLICATION.THANK YOU MS. SCOTT. COUNCILLOR TURNER.
MS. SCOTT. CAN YOU TELL US A BIT ABOUT THE GRANT ITSELF? I MEAN, HOW MUCH IS IT WORTH AND WHAT PERCENTAGE STILL FALLS TO US? IT'S SEVENTY FIVE CENT DOLLARS AND THE TOTAL FOR THE UBF, I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME.
ON THE UPPER TIER AND WE HAVE TO GET THAT GRANT APPLICATION IN BY MID MONTHS IN FEBRUARY.
FEBRUARY 15TH IS THE CUTOFF DATE.
OK, THANKS. COUNCILLOR PATRIE.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THROUGH YOU TO MS. SCOTT. I HAVE A COUPLE OF ISSUES WITH THE REPORT.
NUMBER ONE, SO WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT THIS SINCE NOVEMBER.
NOW WE'RE AT A DEADLINE CRUNCH WHERE WE HAVE TO DO THIS AT A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING.
BUT THE REPORT STATES THAT IF IT'S NOT APPROVED BY JANUARY 22ND AT FOUR P.M.
FOR THE FLOYD GROUP TO START, THEY CAN'T MEET THE DEADLINE OF GETTING THE APPLICATION IN.
SO I DON'T KNOW. IF THEY CAN'T GET THE APPLICATION IN, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM ALMOST THIRTY THOUSAND AN APPLICATION THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET, SO I HAVE THAT QUESTION AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS IN YOUR REPORT, IT STATES THAT THERE'S A JANUARY 15TH FUND APPLICATION THAT WENT IN.
AND I'D LIKE CLARIFICATION ON THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THAT COME TO COUNCIL.
THE OK, ON YOUR FIRST QUESTION, THE REPORT WILL COME BACK NOT ONLY WITH THE ABILITY TO APPLY FOR THE FUND, BUT IT ALSO IS REVIEWING AND TAKING A LOOK AT EVERYTHING WE HAVE AND TELLING US WHAT KIND OF DESIGN, WHAT KIND OF EQUIPMENT WE WOULD NEED TO OPERATE TO IN ORDER TO PROVIDE 50 10.
AND WE ARE AS AS OWNERS OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO BE CONSTANTLY TAKING A LOOK AT IT AND MAINTAINING IT.
SO THIS REPORT THE MONIES THAT WE SPEND ON THIS REPORT WOULD STILL BE VERY VALUABLE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE APPLY FOR THE FUND.
ON THE SECOND WE APPLIED, THERE WAS A SECOND PIECE TO THIS FUNDING.
IT'S CALLED THE RAPID RESPONSE, AND IT WAS DUE JANUARY 15TH.
AND WE HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED THAT APPLICATION.
AND IT WAS UNDER WITHIN FOR THE PROCUREMENT POLICY.
IT WAS UNDER THE AMOUNT THAT PASSED THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH.
THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
THANK YOU, THROUGH. IF I COULD JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PRIOR TO THAT.
OK, FOLLOW UP COUNCILLOR PATRIE.
THANK YOU. SORRY, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF WE APPROVE THIS, ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO.
ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS REPORT TO US IN TIME? I UNDERSTAND THE REPORT SAYS AND I UNDERSTAND WE SHOULD BE DOING THE 50 10.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AT THIS LATE STAGE, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO GET THAT REPORT AND THE GRANT APPLICATION SUBMITTED IN TIME BY THE FEBRUARY 15TH DEADLINE? BECAUSE THEREFORE IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL AT THE FEBRUARY 8TH MEETING FOR US TO APPROVE THE GRANT APPLICATION.
YES, I HAVE YES, I'M WORKING WITH FLOYD, AND LIKE I SAID, THEY WERE VERY FAMILIAR WITH OUR ENVIRONMENT, OUR NETWORK, THE ORIGINAL DESIGNS AND ALL THAT, AND I HAVE EVERY CONFIDENCE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DO THIS.
THROUGH YOUR WORSHIP TO MS. SCOTT, CAN YOU REMIND ME, WAS THIS BUDGETED? THIS AMOUNT? WE HAD BUDGETED IN THE CAPITAL PROJECT.
WE HAVE A THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR WIRELESS UPGRADE PROJECT THAT FIFTY THOUSAND OF THAT WAS TO COME FROM THE FROM THE CITY RESERVES.
SO THAT'S WHERE I RECOMMEND THESE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM.
TO CLARIFY, OF COURSE, WE'RE IN A CHICKEN OR THE EGG.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE COST IS FOR THE PROJECT UNTIL MORE RESEARCH DOES THE DESIGN WORK AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH OPTIONS.
WE HOPE WE CAN LINE THAT UP FOR FEBRUARY 8TH, BUT OBVIOUSLY HAS TO BE LINED UP BEFORE THE
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15TH SO THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO TELL COUNCIL WE HAVE OPTION A IS GOING TO COST X.AND HERE'S OUR LEVERAGE AMOUNT AND HERE'S OPTION B, BUT WE WON'T KNOW THE EXACT COST OF THAT FUNDING APPLICATION UNTIL FLOYD DOES SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY OR ALL OF THE WORK, BUT AT LEAST MOST OF THE WORK SO THAT WE CAN GET GET A PICTURE OF WHAT THAT COST IS GOING TO BE. WE ALSO SPENT SOME TIME THIS AFTERNOON WITH THE CONSULTANT WORKING WITH MAYOR [INAUDIBLE] FROM HURON SHORES, JUST SO WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT OUR CONSULTANT WORKS WITH THEIR CONSULTANT JUST TO COMPARE NOTES AND UNDERSTAND IF THERE ARE ANY SYNERGIES OR RISKS IN OUR MAKING AN APPLICATION, MUCH SMALLER APPLICATION FOR UPGRADING THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE VERSUS THE PARTICIPATION WE ALREADY ARE IN WITH THE REGIONAL EFFORT TO BRING FIBER OPTIC CABLE FROM BASICALLY [INAUDIBLE] CENTER TO ECHO BAY AND [INAUDIBLE] ISLANDS.
SO WE'RE WE HAVE A VERY SMALL ONE FOR OUR NORTHERN AREAS AND WE'RE PARTICIPATING IN A LARGER REGIONAL EFFORT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COMPARE NOTES.
AND IF WE LEARN ANYTHING THROUGH THAT EXERCISE THAT'S RELEVANT TO COUNCIL, OF COURSE, WE'LL EITHER ON THE 8TH OR BEFORE THE 15TH. THANK YOU.
IS THERE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? SO JUST FOR MY CLARIFICATION, MS. SCOTT, THIS, THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IS OWNED BY THE MUNICIPALITY ALREADY AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE UPGRADES FOR UPGRADING SERVICE.
TO UPGRADE AND TO FILL IN SOME OF THE KNOWN GAPS.
OK, THANK YOU. OK, SO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE TABLE HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.
BEGINNING WITH COUNCILLOR PEARCE.
COUNCILLOR PATRIE. RELUCTANTLY IN FAVOR.
IN FAVOR. I'M IN FAVOR THAT'S CARRIED.
THANK YOU MS. SCOTT. NO NOTICE OF MOTION THIS EVENING, NO OTHER BUSINESS, NO PUBLIC QUESTION PERIOD, UNLESS QUESTIONS WERE RECEIVED.
NO CLOSED SESSION BUSINESS 11 BYLAWS 11.1 BYLAW 21-07 BEING A BYLAW TO CONFIRM THE
[11.1. By-Law 21-07]
PROCEEDINGS OF COUNCIL AT THE SPECIAL MEETING HELD JANUARY 29 2021.CAN I HAVE A MOVER, PLEASE? MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL VOTE ONCE AGAIN, BEGINNING WITH COUNCILLOR TURNER, WHO SHIFTED HIS POSITION ON MY SCREEN.
I'M IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR PEARCE. IN FAVOR.
I'M IN FAVOR ALSO, SO THAT'S CARRIED MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MOVED BY COUNCILLOR TURNER, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE.
ROLL CALL, BEGINNING WITH COUNCILLOR MANN.
IN FAVOR. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.
THAT'S CARRIED. ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE, HAVE A GREAT EVENING AND A GREAT WEEKEND.
WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK. HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
BE SAFE, EVERYONE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.