Sep 26, 2022 City Council

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CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2022.

TIME IS 7:00 PM.

ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING.

I'D ASK IF THERE'S ANY DECLARATION OF THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST THIS EVENING.

ONCE, TWICE, THREE TIMES.

SEEING NONE [INAUDIBLE] PREVIOUS MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2022 REGULAR.

[4. ADOPTION OF PREVIOUS MINUTES]

ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE THEN.

ALL IN FAVOR. THOSE ARE CARRIED.

THANK YOU. 4.2 READING OF RESOLUTION PASSED FOLLOWING THE CLOSED SESSION OF THE SEPTEMBER 12, 2022 COUNCIL MEETING.

MS. BRAY, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. YOUR WORSHIP MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR CYR THAT THE HEAD OF THE INSTITUTION PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE RECORDS AS DETAILED IN ACCESS REQUEST FOI -0122 RECEIVED ON JULY 28TH, 2022, AND THAT THE RECORDS BE RELEASED UPON PAYMENT OF THE FEE OF $61.20.

THANK YOU. FIVE PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS.

[5. PUBLIC INPUT SESSION]

SO I'D ASK MEMBERS THAT THAT DO COME UP.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND THE ITEM NUMBER YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO AND YOU HAVE UP TO 5 MINUTES TO SPEAK.

FIRST WE HAVE MR. CALVERLEY. GOOD EVENING, SIR.

JUST MAKE SURE THE GREEN LIGHTS ARE ON YOUR MIC.

THERE WE ARE. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS STEVE CALVERLEY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCILORS, CITY STAFF AND FELLOW RESIDENTS OF ELLIOT LAKE.

MY COMMENTS ARE WITH REGARD TO ITEM 8.2, THE PROCESS TO ACCEPT OFFERS ON 255 HIGHWAY 108.

WE KNOW THAT FOR MANY YEARS RESIDENTS OF ELLIOT LAKE HAVE WANTED A SECOND HOTEL OF THE BUDGET VARIETY.

WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE CANNOT DEMAND ANYONE COME AND INVEST HERE.

WE NEED TO ATTRACT THEM.

THEIR MOTIVE IS PROFIT, AND THAT'S NOT A DIRTY WORD.

PROFITABILITY WILL DEPEND ON THE OCCUPANCY RATE, WHICH DEPENDS ON HOW ATTRACTIVE THE HOTEL OR MOTEL IS TO POTENTIAL GUESTS.

A HIGHLY VISIBLE LOCATION ON THE MAIN STREET INTO THE CITY IS IDEAL FOR ATTRACTING WALK IN GUESTS WHO USUALLY PAY THE TOP RATE.

AND IF, IN ADDITION TO A HIGHLY VISIBLE LOCATION, THE PROPERTY HAS OTHER FEATURES TO ATTRACT A WIDER VARIETY OF GUESTS.

THE HOTEL INCREASES ITS PROBABILITY OF A GOOD OCCUPANCY RATE.

255 HIGHWAY 108 HAS THOSE FEATURES WITH ATV TRAILS, A TIM HORTONS AND MCDONALD'S RIGHT BESIDE IT.

THIS APPEARS TO BE A VERY GOOD PROPERTY FOR A SUCCESSFUL HOTEL MOTEL.

AND THEIR SUCCESS IS OUR SUCCESS.

SOME ADDITIONAL JOBS AND SECONDARY ECONOMIC BENEFIT, AS WELL AS CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY TAX AND BRINGING MORE TOURIST SPENDING.

AND BESIDES THE PURELY ECONOMIC BENEFITS IT WOULD PROVIDE SOME LACKING FACILITIES LOCAL PEOPLE NEED.

THE EXTRA SPACE SUITABLE FOR BUDGET MINDED VISITING FAMILY, OUT-OF-TOWN TRADESPEOPLE AND VISITING SPORTS TEAMS TO NAME A FEW.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS.

HELP US WITH THINGS WE NEED TO FUND, SUCH AS INFRASTRUCTURE AND OTHER FACILITIES, INCLUDING MUCH NEEDED FACILITIES FOR OUR VALUED ARTS COMMUNITY.

IN CLOSING, A QUESTION SINCE THIS IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ELLIOT LAKE FOR ECONOMIC REASONS, FOR EMPLOYMENT REASONS, FOR QUALITY OF LIFE REASONS, AND HAS BEEN ON OUR WISH LIST FOR MANY YEARS, WILL YOU PLEASE SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY'S BROAD NEEDS AND DEMONSTRATE THAT ELLIOT LAKE IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS BY SUPPORTING 8.2 IN THE MOST EXPEDIENT MANNER POSSIBLE .

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OUR SECOND SPEAKER, WE HAVE MR. LAUREN. EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS RICHARD LAUREN.

I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IT BE A HOTEL TAX BASE IS ONE ISSUE.

WE NEED TO GET THE TAX BASE FROM THAT LAND.

I'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME BIG TICKET STORES RECENTLY.

THEY WILL BE COMING HERE LOOKING FOR LAND VERY SHORTLY.

I THINK HAVING A HOTEL THERE SUPPORTS OUR COMMUNITY WORKERS.

TEAMS COME TO TOWN TO PLAY BASEBALL.

THEY COME TO PLAY HOCKEY.

THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO STAY.

THE OTHER HOTEL DOESN'T ACCEPT TEAMS IN THEIR FACILITY DURING TOURNAMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

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SKI TEAMS, HOCKEY TEAMS, THEY NEED A PLACE THAT THEY COULD STAY.

I DO KNOW OF TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING TO PUT A HOTEL ON THAT LAND.

AND I THINK THE IMMEDIATE SALE OF THAT LAND BE PUT UP BY OFFER OR TENDER OR BIDDING PROCESS.

BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE A HOTEL.

WE NEED TO START THINKING DIFFERENTLY WHEN WE MAKE DECISIONS.

AS YOU GUYS MAKE DECISIONS AS A COUNCIL, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE WHOLE ASPECT OF EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN AFFECTED BY THAT DECISION YOU MAKE BY PUTTING THE ARTS CENTER THERE. THERE'S NOT A BIG TAX BASE RETURN BACK TO THE CITY.

THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY WOULDN'T BE A SALE.

REALLY. SO IT BENEFITS THE CITY TO PUT A HOTEL THERE, SELL IT FOR AS MUCH AS WE CAN GET FOR THAT LAND.

THERE'S A TAX BASE THAT SITS THERE FOR INFINITY, AND WE HAVE TO CONSIDER ALL THE OTHER ASPECTS THAT WE'RE MISSING.

THE SPORTS TEAMS. YOU KNOW, YOUNG KIDS COMING WITH THEIR FAMILIES TO PLAY HOCKEY, THEY GOT NO PLACE TO STAY.

SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TOURNAMENTS? THAT'S GROWTH FOR THE CITY.

SO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE GROWTH AND CONTINUE TO GROW.

AND I THINK IT'S IT'S A GOOD DECISION TO ALLOW A HOTEL TO TAKE POSSESSION OF THAT PROPERTY ON SALE.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, MR. LAUREN. WELCOME. OKAY.

NEXT, WE HAVE MR. THOMAS UP.

MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

MY PRESENTATION TONIGHT INVOLVES A STATEMENT AND THE READING OF THREE DOCUMENTS.

I HOPE IT DOESN'T TAKE 5 MINUTES.

I APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, MR. MAYOR. I PRESUME IT'LL CONTINUE TONIGHT, EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT NOT BE FUN.

I HAVE TO ASK THIS COUNCIL IN REGARDS TO ITEM 7.2.

TO PARAPHRASE WHAT COUNCILLOR MANN SAID MONTHS AGO.

I HOPE I GET IT RIGHT.

WHAT'S THE POINT OF HAVING RULES IF WE DON'T FOLLOW THEM? THE REASON I'M TALKING TO YOU TONIGHT.

IT'S PERSONAL. THERE WAS ALLEGATIONS MADE ONLINE THAT I COST THE CITY $30,000, THAT I WAS SUING THE CITY.

CHRIS PATRIE TOLD BOB BURKETT THAT INFORMATION AND HE PUT IT ONLINE ON FACEBOOK THAT I COST YOU $30,000 LAST YEAR IN REGARDS TO 7.2. WHY IT'S RELEVANT TO 7.2 IS THIS.

THIS IS A PAMPHLET YOU'VE ALL SEEN.

POINT OF ORDER. NO.

POINT OF ORDER. I'M SPEAKING.

I HAVE THE FLOOR.

MR. THOMAS. WOULD BE A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE OR PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH 7.2.

I'M SORRY. THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

IT DOES. IF YOU CAN GET TO THE POINT IN TIME, MR. THOMAS, WITHOUT THROWING ANY MUD AT MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THAT'D BE HANDY.

ALL RIGHT. A MEMBER, A PERSON SAID THAT THEY FOLLOW ALL PROCEDURES COMPLETELY AT THE LAST COMMITTEE OF CLERKS.

AND I QUOTE AS TO THE QUESTIONS, I DID NOT USE A BANK ACCOUNT SIMILAR TO MY LAST FOUR CAMPAIGNS.

WHEN I HAD NO DONATIONS, I HAD NO DELINEATION TO DO DONATIONS.

THEREFORE I DIDN'T OPEN UP A BANK ACCOUNT.

THE RULING FROM THE COMMITTEE OF CLERKS.

AND I QUOTE, THE COMMITTEE HAS FOUND THERE ARE REASONABLE GROUNDS TO BELIEVE THE CANDIDATE HAS CONTRAVENED THE PROVISION OF THE MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS LACKED NOTWITHSTANDING, THEY DECIDED NOT TO ACT.

I WAS NOT CHARGED THE FILING FEES FOR THIS, SO IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO HAVE FILED AN IMPROPER APPLICATION.

HOW IS THIS SUPPOSED TO WORK? OF WHAT YOU'RE DECIDING TONIGHT TO APPROVE THIS FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS? IF IT DIDN'T WORK THE LAST TIME, I THINK THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO UNDERSTAND THIS.

WHETHER IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO OR WHETHER THE RULES DON'T MATTER ANYMORE.

AND I WOULD LIKE AN APOLOGY FOR A MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL SULLYING MY NAME ONLINE AND FAILING TO DO SO IN PERSON.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. POINT OF ORDER, YOUR WORSHIP.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE. I DIDN'T SAY ANY LIES.

I DIDN'T SAY THAT HE DIDN'T FOLLOW PROCESS.

RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL HE IS ALLEGING.

BUT TO DO A PERSONAL ATTACK, I WISH THAT YOU AS CHAIR WOULD JUST STOP IT.

IT'S NOT PROPER FOR THE GENTLEMAN TO BE DOING THIS AT A COUNCIL MEETING.

IF HE WANTS TO DEBATE ABOUT OR MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT THE COMPLIANCE AUDIT PROCESS THAT IS MANDATORY BY THE PROVINCE, THEN HE CAN MAKE THOSE COMMENTS.

BUT TO SLANDER ME AT THE TABLE IS NOT PROPER.

MR. THOMAS, WERE YOU REFERRING TO THE COMPLIANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE PROCESS? YES, SURE. MR.

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MAYBE [INAUDIBLE] ANSWER WHEN WE GET TO 7.2.

YOUR CONCERN AND HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

OKAY. THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC INPUT THIS EVENING.

THERE'S NO PUBLIC PRESENTATION.

[7. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF CORPORATE REPORTS]

AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY BY THE CITY.

IT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION AS PER SECTION 239 2C OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT MOVER TO PUT THIS IN CLOSED.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

SECONDER. COUNCILLOR CYR.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

THANK YOU WORSHIP. I THINK THIS IS VERY SIMPLE AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO PUT THIS INTO CLOSED SESSION.

I THINK WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION OR IF THERE IS A DISCUSSION, WE'VE ALL PRETTY.

WE SHOULD HAVE READ THE REPORT.

THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE A COVENANT EXTENSION THAT WE'VE GRANTED, I THINK 99% OF ALL THAT WE'VE DONE.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THEM.

WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT AND GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.

[INAUDIBLE] COUNCILLOR TURNER.

I'M GOING TO GRANT YOUR WORSHIP THAT IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD.

UNLESS THE PROPONENTS HAVE A REASON FOR NOT WANTING IT DISCUSSED IN PUBLIC.

IT JUST COMES DOWN TO A SIMPLE MATTER OF BEING ALLOWED A LITTLE MORE TIME TO COMPLETE THE BUILD.

AND THERE OBSTRUCTIONS HAVE BEEN THE SUPPLY CHAIN, MAYBE MAINLY.

AND THAT'S COMMON RIGHT ACROSS THE CITY.

MS. BRAY, ARE WE ABLE TO DO THIS WITHOUT DISCLOSING ANY PERSONAL INFORMATION? YEAH. I CAN GIVE THE GIST OF THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD WITH THE PROPONENTS AND COUNCIL CAN APPROVE THE EXTENSION.

SO ESSENTIALLY IF WE VOTE NOT TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION, THE STAY IS OPEN.

WE CAN DEAL WITH IT THAT WAY.

YES. WITHOUT MENTIONING NAMES.

COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, I GUESS JUST FURTHER TO THAT.

SO THE REPORT THAT'S ATTACHED DOES NOT BECOME A PUBLIC DOCUMENT WITH THEIR NAMES IN IT THEN.

CORRECT. IT DOESN'T IT DOES NOT.

COUNCIL CAN PASS A MOTION TO APPROVE THEIR REQUEST FOR EXTENSION THAT'S OPEN ON THE AGENDA.

THE REQUEST.

ONCE WE GET A MOTION, I CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL.

[INAUDIBLE] COUNCILLOR MANN.

THANK YOU WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH COUNCILOR TURNER'S COMMENTS.

YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS IT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE REQUEST.

IT'S CLEARLY WITHIN THE PARAMETERS THAT WE'VE FOLLOWED IN THE PAST.

SO I WOULDN'T I WOULD SEE NO ISSUE IN PROCEEDING BASED ON THE AGENDA WE HAVE TONIGHT AS WELL.

THANK YOU. SO I'LL CALL THE VOTE ON THE CLOSED SESSION THEN.

AND IF IT'S NOT TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION, WE'LL WE'LL DEAL WITH IT THAT WAY.

NO, NO.

JUST DON'T VOTE TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.

SO, ROLL CALL VOTE.

MS. BRAY, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

WOULD YOU LIKE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FIRST? IT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED THAT COUNCIL APPROVED THE REQUEST FOR AN EXTENSION OF THE COVENANT TO THE END OF 2022.

[INAUDIBLE] MOVER [INAUDIBLE] BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE SECOND MY COUNCILLOR MANN.

MS. BRAY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP.

SO WE HAVE RECEIVED A REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF COVENANT.

SO THE PROPONENTS PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN 2018 AND DUE TO ONGOING PENDING SORRY, THE ONGOING PANDEMIC AND THE RIPPLING EFFECTS SUCH AS CONCRETE SUPPLY ISSUES, SITING AVAILABILITY, WORKFORCE CHALLENGES THEY ARE REQUESTING SORRY, THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MEET THEIR COVENANT, WHICH EXPIRES IN OCTOBER 17TH OF THIS YEAR.

SO THEY'RE HOPING THAT COUNCIL CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THESE ISSUES CREATED BY COVID AND ALLOW THEM TILL THE END OF THE YEAR TO COMPLETE THEIR PROJECT.

AND BARRING THAT, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU.

YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO MODIFY THE MOTION BASED ON WHAT THE QUESTION IS THAT I'M GOING TO ASK.

SO IF THEY CAN'T COMPLETE BY THE END OF 22, THERE'S ALSO THE REQUEST TO ACTUALLY PAY THE FEE AND GET THE EXTENSION TO 2023 WOULD STAFF LIKE A MOTION THAT AMENDS THE MOTION STATING WE APPROVE THE EXTENSION FOR THE FILING IF THEY REQUIRE IT, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK IN JANUARY IF THEY DON'T GET IT DONE BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2022.

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SO I GUESS THERE'D BE TWO OPTIONS.

COUNCIL COULD APPROVE THE EXTENSION NOW TO THE END OF THE YEAR, OR WE COULD ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE CONSTRUCTION.

AND IF IT GETS TO DECEMBER AND THEY FEEL THEY WON'T BE COMPLETED BY THEN, THEY COULD COME BACK AND ASK FOR A FORMAL EXTENSION AT THAT TIME.

I'M JUST TRYING TO SAVE STAFF TIME.

IF COUNCIL'S IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE $1,000 FEE AND GIVING THEM THE 2023.

WE CAN DO IT NOW AND THEN.

IF THEY NEED TO COME BACK, THEY CAN DO IT AT THAT TIME AND STAFF CAN JUST PROCESS IT.

SO FOR THIS THIS REQUEST, THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR A YEAR EXTENSION.

THEY JUST ASKED TO GO TO THE END OF 2022.

SO WE COULD JUST CONTINUE CONTINUE WITH THEIR BUILD.

AND IF IT GETS CLOSER TO DECEMBER AND THEY FEEL THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE DONE, THEN THEY COULD COME BACK AND ASK FOR AN EXTENSION OF A YEAR AT THAT TIME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILLOR MANN THANK YOU [INAUDIBLE].

I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD THAT, YEAH, I THINK THAT GETS A LITTLE BIT PROBLEMATIC, ASSUMING TWO THINGS.

ONE, THERE'S ONLY ONE MEETING IN DECEMBER, AND TWO, YOU KNOW, HAVING A RESOLUTION THAT READS, IF NOT A, THEN B SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT CONCERNING TO ME.

SO I WOULD RATHER THEY COME BACK IF THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL NEED.

AND AT THAT POINT THERE'S STILL A PROCESS WHICH IS STILL WITHIN TIMELINES.

SO IT WOULD BE STILL REASONABLE, ONE WOULD ASSUME, AT THIS POINT.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CONCERNS. MS. BRAY THE MOTION AGAIN. SO NOW I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD NOT PASS THE MOTION AND JUST CONTINUE AS IS, AND IF THEY FEEL IN DECEMBER THAT THEY NEED THE THE EXTENSION THEY CAN REQUEST AT THAT TIME.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, I'D SAY, JUST TO PROVE IT AND LEAVE IT TO THAT.

IT GIVES THEM A FEW MONTH EXTENSION, WHICH IS FINE.

SO THAT COUNCIL APPROVED THE REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF COVENANT TO THE END OF 2022.

THANK YOU. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU. 7.2 REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF CLARKSON PLANNING SERVICES RE COMPLIANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE COMPLIANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE 2022 MUNICIPAL ELECTION RECOMMENDATION THAT REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF CLARKSON PLANNING SERVICES BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL AUTHORIZE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE COMPLIANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE 2022 MUNICIPAL ELECTION AND COOPERATION WITH THE TOWN OF BLIND RIVER TOWNSHIP IN NORTH SHORE AND TOWN OF SPANISH.

SPANISH. AND THAT THE COMMITTEE BE COMPOSED OF CLERKS OR DESIGNATES OF THE [INAUDIBLE] AS PER TERMS OF REFERENCE.

MOVER PLEASE. MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

SECOND BY COUNCILLOR CYR.

MS. BRAY.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP.

SO UNDER THE MUNICIPAL ELECTION ACT, MUNICIPALITIES ARE REQUIRED TO ESTABLISH A COMPLIANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE PRIOR TO OCTOBER 1ST IN AN ELECTION YEAR.

THE PURPOSE OF THE COMPLIANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE IS TO PROVIDE A MECHANISM WHEREBY AN ELIGIBLE ELECTOR WHO BELIEVES ON REASONABLE GROUNDS THAT A CANDIDATE HAS CONTRAVENED A PROVISION OF THE MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS ACT RELATED TO CAMPAIGN FINANCES MAY APPLY FOR A COMPLIANCE AUDIT OF A CANDIDATE'S CAMPAIGN FINANCES.

AS NOTED IN THE REPORT, HISTORICALLY, WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AND THE COMPLIANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE IS MADE UP OF THE CLERKS FROM ELLIOT LAKE, BLIND RIVER, THE TOWNSHIP OF THE NORTH SHORE AND THE TOWN OF SPANISH.

SHOULD A MEETING BE NECESSARY, THEY'LL BE CONDUCTED IN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS THE ORIGIN OF THE COMPLAINT.

FINANCIAL IMPACTS INCLUDE PER DIEM AND MILEAGE PAID TO THE MEMBERS FOR ANY MEETINGS HELD OUTSIDE REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS.

THE COST OF AN AUDITOR AND OR SOLICITOR, IF REQUIRED, IS TO BE BORNE BY THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS THE ORIGIN OF THE COMPLAINTS.

SO IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT COUNCIL PASS A RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH THE COMPLIANCE AUDIT COMMITTEE FOR THE 2022 MUNICIPAL ELECTION, CONSISTING OF THE CLERKS FROM THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE, TOWN OF BLIND RIVER, THE TOWNSHIP OF THE NORTH SHORE AND THE TOWN OF SPANISH.

AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU, MS. BRAY.

AS A STATESMAN HERE, THIS IS A LEGISLATED REQUIREMENT.

MR. THOMAS MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THE PROCESS NOT WORKING.

HOW DOES IT FUNCTION? MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO US.

ABSOLUTELY. SO CANDIDATES WHO HAVE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING ON COUNCIL AND ALSO ANYONE WHO RUNS ARE REQUIRED TO FILE THEIR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS BY MARCH 31ST, 2023.

AND THEN ON JUNE 29TH IS THE LAST DAY FOR AN ELECTOR TO APPLY FOR A COMPLIANCE AUDIT OF A CANDIDATE SHOULD THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY'VE FILED SOMETHING INCORRECTLY? SO IF THAT COMPLAINT IS RECEIVED IN ELLIOT LAKE, THEN THE COMMITTEE WILL MEET HERE IN ELLIOT LAKE AND REVIEW THE REQUEST.

THEY WILL DECIDE IF AN AUDITOR IS REQUIRED.

THEY CAN SEEK THE ADVICE OF A SOLICITOR, AND THEN THE DECISION IS MADE ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S BEEN SOMETHING DONE AGAINST THE MUNICIPAL ELECTION ACT.

SO I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION MR. THOMAS IS REFERRING TO, BUT IF HE WANTS TO CALL OUR OFFICE TOMORROW, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DISCUSS THE PROCESS HE'S SPEAKING OF.

BUT YEAH, IT'S A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE IT IN PLACE BY OCTOBER 1ST.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS.

[INAUDIBLE] COUNCILLOR PATRIE AND COUNCILLOR PEARCE AND COUNCILLOR MANN.

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JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, AS THE REPORT STATES AS WELL, THE REQUEST WAS AGAINST NINE CANDIDATES.

IT WASN'T JUST AGAINST ME.

SO MR. THOMAS COMMENTS TRYING TO ATTACK ME OR JUST INAPPROPRIATE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

THE REPORT IS VERY THOROUGH.

COUNCILLOR PEARCE. COUNCILLOR MANN.

THANK YOU. WE'RE THROUGH YOU.

I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR THE CLERK.

HAVE THE OTHER COMMUNITIES ALREADY PASSED SIMILAR RESOLUTIONS OR IS THAT OCCURRING THIS WEEK? THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP? I'M NOT SURE WHAT DATES THEIR COUNCILS ARE MEETING, BUT WE HAVE ALL DISCUSSED IT AND EVERYONE HAS AGREED TO APPOINT THE SAME MEMBERSHIP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? SO THEN I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE, THEN.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU. 7.3 SAME REQUESTED 7.1 MEMO FROM THE DIRECTOR OF CLARKSON PLANNING SERVICES REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF COVENANT WATERFRONT PROPERTY AS THIS MATTER DEALS WITH POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY BY THE [INAUDIBLE]. IT MAY BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION AS PER SECTION 239 2 C OF THE MUNICIPAL ACT MOVER TO PUT IT IN CLOSED.

OKAY. THAT'S NOT MOVED.

MS. BRAY, HAVE PREPARED RESOLUTION.

YES, THANK YOU. YOUR WORSHIP THAT AN 11 MONTH EXTENSION ON THE CONSTRUCTION DEADLINE BE AUTHORIZED AS PER THE REQUEST, DATED SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2022, WITH RESPECT TO THE COVENANT, SUBJECT TO THE APPLICABLE FEE OF $1,000.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN. SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION MS. BRAY? THIS IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING.

SO THE PROPONENTS, THEIR EXTENSION IS EXPIRING IN DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

THEY HAD ATTACHED A LIST OF PROGRESS TO DATE.

AND AGAIN, DUE TO THE RIPPLING EFFECTS OF COVID AND SUPPLY CONSTRAINTS, THEY ARE JUST SEEKING A LITTLE BIT EXTRA TIME TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.

OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? SEEING. NONE. COUNCILLOR FINAMORE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE SAME RULES APPLY TO THIS ONE AS LAST ONE THAT NO NAMES WOULD BE PUBLISHED OR ANY OF THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU. 7.4 REFER TO THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES RE NG 911 CONTRACT RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL APPROVE ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH BELL SERVICES 911.

MOVER PLEASE MOVED BY COUNCILOR TURNER SECOND BY COUNCILLOR CYR.

THANK YOU, MR. THOMAS. THANK YOU.

YOUR WORSHIP. EXCUSE ME.

THE OBJECTIVE OF THIS REPORT IS TO PROVIDE MAYOR AND COUNCIL WITH INFORMATION REGARDING CHANGES TO THE AGREEMENT WITH [INAUDIBLE] SORRY.

CORRECTION BELL 911 SERVICES.

IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF DIRECTOR DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL APPROVES ENTERING AN AGREEMENT WITH BELL SERVICES 911.

SOME BACKGROUND THE CRTC REGULATES TELECOMMUNICATION PROVIDERS.

THESE ARE THE TELEPHONE AND CELL PHONE SERVICES COMPANIES THAT CREATE THE NETWORKS FOR CONNECTING 911 CALLS TO EMERGENCY CALL CENTERS.

WHEN A 911 CALL IS RECEIVED, THESE CENTERS DISPATCH EMERGENCY RESPONDERS SUCH AS POLICE, FIRE AND PARAMEDICS TO BOTH EMERGENCY SORRY, AND PARAMEDICS, BOTH EMERGENCY RESPONDERS AND 911 CALL CENTERS FALL UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE PROVINCIAL, TERRITORIAL AND MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS.

TELECOMMUNICATION NETWORKS HAVE GREATLY EVOLVED OVER THE YEARS.

TODAY, YOU CAN DO MUCH MORE THAN MAKE A PHONE CALL.

YOU CAN ALSO SEND TEXTS, VIDEOS AND PHOTOS.

CRTC WANTS TO ENSURE THAT EMERGENCY SERVICES BENEFIT FROM THESE ADVANCEMENTS BECAUSE OF 911 SYSTEMS WERE ORIGINALLY BUILT USING ANALOG RATHER THAN DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY.

PUBLIC SAFETY ANSWERING POINTS OR PEACE APPS ACROSS THE COUNTRY NEED TO UPGRADE THEIR DIGITAL OR INTERNET PROTOCOLS.

COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE NEXT GENERATION OR NG 911.

THE SUCCESSFUL AND RELIABILITY OF 911 WILL BE GREATLY IMPROVED WITH THIS IMPORTANT IMPLEMENTATION OF NG 911 AS IT WILL ENHANCE EMERGENCY NUMBER SERVICES TO CREATE FASTER, MORE RESILIENT SYSTEMS, ALLOW VOICE PHOTOS, VIDEOS AND TEXT MESSAGES TO FLOW SEAMLESSLY FROM THE PUBLIC TO 911 NETWORKS.

CRTC HAS SET A DATE OF JUNE 23RD TO SWITCH OVER TO NG 911.

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OUR PRIMARY PUBLIC SAFETY ANSWERING POINT OR THE PIECE UP IS NORTH BAY OPP.

OUR SECONDARY IS CENTRAL AMBULANCE COMMUNICATION CENTER IN SIOUX SAINT MARIE.

WHEN A CALLER CALLS 911, IT GOES TO NORTH BAY FROM NORTH BAY.

IF YOU ASK POLICE, FIRE OR AMBULANCE, YOU SAY FIRE.

IT WILL GO TO SIOUX SAINT MARIE TO THE [INAUDIBLE] CENTER AND THEN THE CALL WILL BE TRANSPORTED BACK TO ELLIOT LAKE FIRE STATION WHERE FIREFIGHTERS WILL ANSWER THE PHONE OR [INAUDIBLE] WILL SEND OUT A PAGE TO ALL FIREFIGHTERS TO RESPOND.

THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH SWITCHING OVER TO THIS NG 911 THAT THE MUNICIPALITY WILL NOT HAVE TO INCUR.

WE WERE LOOKING AT TRYING TO TAKE THE AMBULANCE COMMUNICATIONS CENTER OUT OF THIS ROLE AND PUTTING THE ELLIOT LAKE FIRE SERVICE IN.

BUT THE COSTS WERE EXTREME WITH THE EQUIPMENT SOFTWARE.

WE WOULD HAVE TO HIRE A PERSONAL IT PERSON JUST TO LOOK AFTER THE SYSTEM, HIRE FOUR DISPATCHERS.

IT WAS IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

CURRENTLY, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH AMBULANCE COMMUNICATION CENTER AND TO SIOUX ST MARIE THAT WE RENEW ANNUALLY AND IT'S $2,100.

SO RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO FINANCIAL IMPACT TO THE MUNICIPALITY, BUT SWITCHING OVER TO THE NG 911.

IN SUMMARY, THIS AGREEMENT IS A TERM FOR FIVE YEARS AND WILL AUTOMATICALLY RENEW ON THE FIFTH YEAR IF THE CITY CHOOSES TO LEAVE THIS AGREEMENT WITHIN SIX MONTHS.

NOTIFICATION TO BELL 911.

THE NEW NG 911 SYSTEM.

SORRY. CORRECTION, WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM SIX MONTHS NOTICE.

THE NEW NG 911 SYSTEM WILL HELP IMPROVE ALL EMERGENCIES IN RESPONSE TO EMERGENCY EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND THAT'S MY REPORT YOUR WORSHIP.

THANK YOU, CHIEF. EXCELLENT REPORT.

YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION WITH YOUR FINAL STATEMENT.

IT'S GOING TO IMPROVE THE EFFICIENCY OF OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES HERE IN ELLIOT LAKE.

SO YOU WON ME OVER WITH THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU THROUGH YOU TO THE CHIEF.

SO ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE CUTTING OUT ONE STEP BY USING THE SYSTEM.

IS THAT CORRECT TO YOU? YOUR WORSHIP NO, EVERYTHING IS GOING TO STAY CURRENTLY THE SAME.

SO WHEN YOU CALL 911, IT WILL RING IN NORTH BAY.

NORTH BAY WILL TRANSFER THE CALL.

IF YOU SAY FIRE TWO [INAUDIBLE] TO SAINT MARIE AND THEN SEND THE CALL BACK TO ELLIOT LAKE FIRE.

FOLLOW UP. WILL THERE BE ANY DIFFERENCE WHEN WE HAVE A POWER OUTAGE WITH THE SYSTEM THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW? THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP, NO.

ELLIOT LAKE FIRE IS STILL ON THE OLD BELL LINE SYSTEM.

WE DO NOT HAVE THAT VOIP OR THE NEW SYSTEM THAT THE REST OF THE MUNICIPALITY CURRENTLY HAS, SO THERE SHOULD BE NO CHANGE FOR WHEN THE POWER GOES OUT.

NORTH BAY AND SIOUX SAINT MARIE BOTH DO HAVE BACKUP GENERATORS FOR THEIR DISPATCH CENTERS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAIN REQUIREMENTS FOR THE NG 911.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

IF YOU COULD CLARIFY FOR ME.

SO IF MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE IS ON FIRE AND I PHONE 911, IT GOES TO.

NORTH BAY, NORTH BAY AND NORTH BAY SAYS, WHAT SERVICE DO YOU WANT? THAT IS CORRECT. ALLOWS YOU POLICE, FIRE OR AMBULANCE? AND DO THEY CLARIFY WHAT COMMUNITY I'M CALLING FROM? THEY KNOW. THEY KNOW.

THEY KNOW WHEN YOU DIALED.

I DON'T HAVE TO SAY I'M CALLING FROM ELLIOT LAKE.

NO, THEY WILL KNOW.

OKAY. IF I MAY JUST CONTINUE WITH THIS.

AND YOUR LAST STATEMENT THERE ABOUT THE THE THE LINE USING THE BELL LINE AS OPPOSED TO THE VOIP SYSTEM.

ARE YOU PLANNING ON GOING TO THE VOIP SYSTEM? THE CURRENT DISPATCH SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE NOW THEY DO NOT HAVE A PROGRAM IN PLACE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SWITCH OVER TO DO OUR DISPATCHING AND OUR RECORDING, WHICH WE ARE HOPING TO GET SOON.

ONCE THAT COMES INTO PLAY AND THE MUNICIPALITY HAS THE BACKUP GENERATOR UP AND RUNNING.

WE WILL LOOK AT SWITCHING OVER.

I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE ON THAT? NO, SIR, I DO NOT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR TURNER.

THANKS, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU TO THE CHIEF.

NOBODY SAY ANYTHING TO SIOUX SAINT MARIE ABOUT US GETTING AWAY WITH $2,100 A YEAR.

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THE. THE MAIN QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU AND IT'S JUST ASKING FOR A LITTLE CLARITY.

I THINK THIS NG 911 SYSTEM, IT'S GOING TO BE FANTASTIC IN THAT.

INSTEAD OF PHONING, I COULD JUST TEXT INSTEAD OF A REGULAR PHONE CALL.

I CAN HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO ZOOM OR FACETIME OR WHATEVER ANY OF THOSE THINGS ARE, AND YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO CAPTURE IT RIGHT THERE.

SEE HOW SERIOUS AN INJURY IS OR HOW ENGULFED THE BUILDING IS? IS THIS THE BENEFITS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORKSHOP.

THE ELLIOT LAKE FIRE SERVICE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RECEIVE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION.

ALL THAT INFORMATION WOULD BE GOING TO SIOUX SAINT MARIE [INAUDIBLE], WHERE THEY WILL KNOW THE URGENCY OF THE CALL SO THEY CAN CONFIRM FOR US WHEN THEY DO DISPATCH ELLIOT LAKE FIRE SERVICE, SAYING THAT THEY DO CONFIRM WE HAVE A WORKING FIRE INSTEAD OF SAYING WE HAVE A FIRE ALARM RINGING OR THERE'S A SMELL OF SMOKE.

THEY COULD THEY WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT CALL AND GIVE US THAT INFORMATION DIRECTLY INSTEAD OF CREWS ARRIVING ON SCENE AND OBSERVING IT THEMSELVES.

RIGHT. SO BEFORE YOU EVEN HEAD OUT, YOU'RE GETTING INFORMATION THAT'S VALUABLE TO YOU.

THAT IS. THAT IS CORRECT.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN.

THANK YOU. WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT, CHIEF.

OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF CHOICE TONIGHT.

I THINK THAT'S THE OTHER PIECE.

WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT OLD, ANTIQUATED ANALOG SYSTEMS. AND NOW MOST OF THE COMMUNICATIONS ARE NOW DIGITAL.

SO AGAIN, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF CHOICE.

THE OTHER PART IS, AND I DID SPEAK TO THE CHIEF BEFORE THE MEETING, A LOT OF THE VOIP SYSTEMS IN OFFICES, BUILDINGS YOU HAVE.

YOU STILL HAVE TO BE VERY CLEAR ON WHEN YOU CALL IN YOUR LOCATION, BECAUSE BASED ON WHERE THAT SERVER IS, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY LOCALLY.

SO YOU HAVE TO BE CLEAR.

HOPEFULLY THESE SYSTEMS OVER TIME WILL HAVE AS MUCH INTELLIGENCE TO GET AROUND THAT BECAUSE IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY, THAT'S THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE DOING.

YOU WANT TO MAKE THE CALL, ENSURE IT GETS POLICED, AND THEN HOPEFULLY ALL THAT WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF AT THE BACK END.

SO I WILL SUPPORT IT AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, IT ALL GOES AHEAD, BUT WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME.

IT'S NINE MONTHS AWAY, SO.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR CYR.

THANK YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

FIRST, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE AT HOME UNDERSTAND WHAT VOIP IS.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T, SO IT'S VOICE OVER INTERNET PROTOCOL JUST SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SECOND, MY QUESTION, I GUESS, TO MR. THOMAS IS.

ONCE WE DO GO TO VOIP.

WILL WE STILL HAVE ACCESS TO LANDLINES AND VOIP OR WILL BE WE'LL BE [INAUDIBLE]? ARE WE GOING TO BE RAILROADED TO JUST VOIP, JUST IN CASE THERE'S POWER OUTAGES AND WHATEVER? SOMETIMES THE INTERNET'S DOWN.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE FLEXIBILITY AND IT'S JUST SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE A BETTER SENSE, A SENSE OF COMFORT OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF THE POWER'S OUTAGE, IF THERE'S A POWER OUTAGE LIKE ACROSS NORTH AMERICA.

SO JUST SO WE UNDERSTAND HOW THE SYSTEMS WORK AND THEY'RE UNDER EXTREME CONDITIONS.

SO THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP, THERE IS NO CHANGE IN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THE ELLIOT LAKE FIRE SERVICE.

WE WILL STILL RESPOND THE EXACT SAME WAY THERE HAS BEEN ISSUES IN THE PAST IN OTHER COMMUNITIES WHEN THIS VOIP FIRST CAME OUT WHERE PEOPLE WERE DIALING 911 AND THE NUMBER THAT THEY WERE USING WAS IN NORTH BAY AND THE ACTUAL EVENT THAT WAS TAKING PLACE WAS IN TIMMINS.

IT'S ALWAYS VERY IMPORTANT TO SAY WHERE YOU ARE WHEN YOU DIAL 911 ON A REGULAR PHONE LINE, WHEN YOU DIAL 911, IT AUTOMATICALLY COMES UP.

THEY CALL IT AN ANTI ALLEY.

NOW, AS PEOPLE ARE USING CELL PHONES AND AND STUFF LIKE THAT, MOST PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN RID OF THEIR LANDLINES IN THEIR HOME AND STRICTLY CELL PHONES.

YOU STILL MUST TELL THEM WHERE YOU ARE.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS OPP AND THE AMBULANCE COMMUNICATION CENTER IN SIOUX SAINT MARIE CAN ONLY PINPOINT HOW FAR YOU ARE FROM THE CLOSEST TOWER THAT YOUR PHONE IS WORKING OFF OF.

SO IF YOU DON'T TELL THEM, WE WILL BE SENDING TRUCKS TO THE TOWER THAT THEY GIVE US BECAUSE EVERY TOWER HAS AN ADDRESS AND WE WILL CIRCLE THE NEIGHBORHOOD UNTIL WE FIND WHETHER IT'S SOME SIGNS OF FIRE OR SOMEBODY COMING OUT TO THE STREET TO MEET US TO SAY THEY HAVE AN EMERGENCY.

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IT'S GOING TO ENHANCE IT IN SOME WAYS WHERE IF YOU'RE IN A PART OF TOWN WHERE IT HAS POOR CELL PHONE SERVICE, YOU CAN USUALLY GET A TEXT MESSAGE OUT. IT DOESN'T NEED THAT MUCH SIGNAL.

IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.

IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO SAY WHERE YOU ARE CALLING FROM AND WHERE THE ACTUAL EVENT IS.

SO IF YOU'RE CALLING ON BEHALF OF A NEIGHBOR, YOU GIVE YOUR ADDRESS.

WE'RE COMING TO YOUR ADDRESS.

WE'RE NOT. WE ALWAYS ASK WHEN WE GET THE PHONE TO SAY, WHERE IS THE ACTUAL EMERGENCY? SO. EVERYBODY SHOULD BE SAFE.

I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUES.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ROLLED OUT IN 2023.

WAS SUPPOSED TO ROLL OUT IN 2021.

BUT DUE TO COVID AND ISSUES AND TECHNICAL PROBLEMS, THEY NOW HAVE 2023.

MOST BIG METRO CENTERS ARE ALREADY RUNNING THESE NEW SYSTEMS AND TIMMINS HAS BEEN TESTING FOR WELL OVER A YEAR NOW AND EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE WORKING FINE, BUT THEY WILL NOT SWITCH EVERYBODY OVER TO THIS NG 911 UNTIL THEY ARE 100% SURE THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYBODY'S SAFETY OR LEVEL OF SERVICE.

FOLLOW UP COUNCILLOR CYR.

THANK YOU. I MEAN, YOU'VE ANSWERED A LOT OF IT.

MY ONE QUESTION IS STILL IF WE HAVE A LIKE 20 YEARS AGO, WE HAD ALMOST A NORTH AMERICA WIDE POWER OUTAGE PRETTY WELL. SO HOW WILL THE 911 SYSTEM WORK? WILL IT STILL WORK DURING SUCH A SCENARIO? IF WE HAVE A POWER OUTAGE ACROSS NORTH AMERICA, ALMOST.

I'M JUST SAYING, YOU NEVER KNOW.

SO THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO BE A PRIMARY OR SECONDARY CALL CENTER, WE'LL CALL THEM.

YOU MUST HAVE BACKUP SYSTEMS IN PLACE BACKUP ROUTERS, BACKUP PHONES AND GENERATORS, AND YOU MUST HAVE A 24 HOUR DAY DEDICATED IT PERSON JUST FOR THAT SYSTEM.

SO I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

MUNICIPALITIES LOSE POWER ALL THE TIME.

FOR AN EXAMPLE, ATLANTIC CANADA.

RIGHT NOW, THE CITY OF SYDNEY, THERE IS NO POWER, BUT THEIR 911 SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY UP AND RUNNING AND IT'S ALL DUE BACKUP POWER.

SO. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION AFTER COMMENT.

SO THE REPORT STATES THERE IS NO COST TO THE MUNICIPALITY AND BASED ON WHAT THE CHIEF SAID, I THINK THAT'S AN IMPAIRMENT BECAUSE IF WE HAD TO PAY FOR THIS TO CONVERT EVERYTHING, IT WOULD BE IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

SO MY QUESTION BECOMES IT'S NOT IN THE DOCUMENTATION WE HAVE, BUT IT SAYS IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY RENEW AFTER THE FIFTH YEAR.

IS THAT FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEAR TERM OR.

DO WE END UP GOING TO ANNUAL RENEWALS AT THAT POINT? BECAUSE I DON'T IF I WOULD LOVE TO BUY TEN YEARS OUT OF THIS AT NO COST TO THE MUNICIPALITY AS OPPOSED TO FIVE AND ONE AND ONE.

THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP, IT'S ALWAYS A FIVE YEAR RENEWAL DEAL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? NONE. I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE THEN.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YOUR WORSHIP. 7.5 REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF CLARKSON PLANNING SERVICES SET A PUBLIC MEETING DATE ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT APPLICATION FOR 80 HERGOTT RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF CLARKSON PLANNING SERVICES CONCERNING AN APPLICATION FOR A ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT TO ALLOW FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION UNDER 3C IN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AT 80 HERGOTT AVENUE BE RECEIVED AND THAT A PUBLIC MEETING BE SCHEDULED UNDER SECTION 34 OF THE PLANNING ACT ON NOVEMBER 14, 2022 AT 6:30 P.M..

MOVER PLEASE MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MANN SECOND BY COUNCILLOR CYR.

MS. BRAY. THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP.

SO THIS WOULD NORMALLY BE HANDLED AT A BYLAW AND PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING.

HOWEVER, WHEN PREPARING THE AGENDA FOR THAT MEETING, WE WERE STILL AWAITING SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT.

SO IT'S BEING BROUGHT HERE TO COUNCIL AS IT IS TIME SENSITIVE.

THERE IS AN AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE AND SALE INVOLVED WITH A CLOSING DATE AND IN ORDER TO MEET THE NOTICE PROVISIONS UNDER THE PLANNING ACT, WE WOULD NEED TO SET THE PUBLIC MEETING DATE TONIGHT.

SO BASICALLY WE HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR THE OWNER AT 80 HERGOTT THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED C 3 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND OPERATES AS AN EATING ESTABLISHMENT.

THE PROPONENT WHO IS PURCHASING THE PROPERTY IS LOOKING TO OPEN AN OPTOMETRY CLINIC AT THAT LOCATION AND DUE TO THAT PROPOSED USE, IT DOESN'T MEET THE FALL UNDER THE APPROVED USES FOR C 3 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

THEREFORE, A ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT IS REQUIRED TO ALLOW FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AT THE PROPERTY.

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THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? SEEING NONE. I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE THEN.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED ALSO.

THANK YOU. 7.6 REPORT OF THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING ALONG HIGHWAY 108 PATHWAY.

AUTHORIZED SOLE SOURCE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REPORT OF THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL APPROVED THE USE NEGOTIATION METHOD AND THE PROCUREMENT POLICY TOWARD A SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT AGENCY POLE LINE IN THE AMOUNT OF $60,278 PLUS APPLICABLE TAXES, AND THAT THE FUNDS BE TAKEN FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS RESERVE AS STATED IN THE APPROVED 2022 CAPITAL BUDGET.

MOVER PLEASE MOVED BY COUNCILLOR CYR.

SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

MR. DOYLE, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

JUST A BIT OF BACKGROUND ON IT.

THE 22 THE 2022 MUNICIPAL CAPITAL BUDGET INCLUDES $66,144 FOR IMPROVED LIGHTING FOR THE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS ALONG HIGHWAY 108 AND THE ESTON SUBDIVISION TO THE CENTRAL COMMERCIAL AREA.

THE WORK TO INSTALL THE POLES AND LIGHTS FOR THE IMPROVED NIGHTTIME VISIBILITY AND SAFETY IS SOMEWHAT SPECIALIZED.

AN EXISTING RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE FOR REGULAR MAINTENANCE TO THE STREETLIGHTS AND RELATED HYDRO LIGHTING INFRASTRUCTURES EXIST WITH AGENCY POLE LINE.

IN 2020 OR 2022 HAS BEEN A CHALLENGING YEAR FOR BOTH SECURING MATERIALS AND LABOR.

STAFF RECOMMENDED RELYING ON THE EXPERTISE AND THE AVAILABILITY OF AGENCY POLE LINE TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT IN THE COMING WEEKS.

THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THIS IS $66,144 IS INCLUDED IN THE IMPROVED 2022 CAPITAL BUDGET.

AND THE NET AMOUNT OF THE CONTRACT OF $60,278 IS UNDER BUDGET BY $5,866, WHICH WILL HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE OUTLOOK OF THE PUBLIC WORKS RESERVES.

SO IN SUMMARY, IT IS RECOMMENDED TO USE THE NEGOTIATION METHOD IN THE CITY'S PROCUREMENT POLICY TO SOLE SOURCE A CONTRACT TO AGENCY POLE LINE FOR THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING CAPITAL PROJECT.

THANK YOU, MR. DOYLE, AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

THAT IS DEFINITELY A CONCERN.

I'VE HEARD FROM MANY INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN THE NEW SUBDIVISION THAT WALK THAT AREA IN THE MORNING TO GET TO WORK OR IN THE EVENING.

SO I'VE WALKED AT ONCE.

IT'S LIKE EVERY SCARY MOVIE YOU'VE EVER SEEN ALL ROLLED UP INTO ONE.

SO ABSOLUTELY GREAT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN.

THANK YOU. WORSHIP AND THROUGH YOU.

JUST TO ADD TO THAT, IT'LL BE NICE TO ACTUALLY SEE IT BE COMPLETED IN THE YEAR THAT IT WAS BUDGETED, WHICH.

THANK YOU, MR. DOYLE, FOR THAT COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP NORMALLY I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF SOLE SOURCING STUFF.

DID WE AT LEAST REACH OUT TO OTHER CONTRACTORS TO SEE IF WE COULD GET SOME COMPARABLE PRICING.

THE BUDGET HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR A WHILE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF WE HAVE AT LEAST REACHED OUT TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND IT'S UNDER BUDGET, BUT COULD WE HAVE SAVED SOME MORE MONEY? I'LL LET HIM ANSWER THAT FIRST BEFORE I CONTINUE, IF I MAY.

YOUR WORSHIP MR. DOYLE. THREE YEARS [INAUDIBLE].

IT IS SPECIALIZED.

IT IS. IT DOES INVOLVE A BOOM TRUCK.

AND NO, WE DID NOT REACH OUT TO ANYBODY ELSE FOR FOR THIS HERE, BECAUSE EACH AGENCY, [INAUDIBLE] DOES DOES HAVE THE BOOM TRUCK. THEY DID DO THE INITIAL LIGHTING FROM ESTON SOUTH TO WEST TO NORTH, ROUGHLY AS WELL.

OKAY. FOLLOW UP.

THANK YOU. WORSHIP AGAIN.

I WOULD PREFER IF STAFF AT LEAST REACHED OUT TO SOME OTHER SUDBURY.

SUDBURY CONTRACTORS SIOUX ST MARIE CONTRACTORS AND I KNOW AGENCY LINE IS MY OPINION IS CONSIDERED A LOCAL COMPANY BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST DOWN THE HIGHWAY.

BUT I WOULD JUST PREFER STAFF AT LEAST REACH OUT TO SEE TO MAKE SURE.

BUT WITH THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING THIS IN WITHIN THE COMING WEEKS, I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE.

I KNOW IT'S LATE IN THE YEAR, BUT IN THE SPRING WE HAVE A FEW BLACK FRIENDS THAT SEEM TO WALK DOWN THAT PATHWAY.

AND I THINK THEY'RE NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE TRYING TO PET OR THEY DON'T WANT TO.

THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE THEM WHEN THEY'RE WALKING IN THE DARK.

SO IT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED AN EXTREMELY SAFE ENDEAVOR TO PUT LIGHTS ON THERE SO THAT THE PEOPLE CAN SEE THOSE BEARS WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE IN THE SPRING.

COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU.

THROUGH YOU TO MR. DOYLE. THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.

SO CENTRAL COMMERCIAL IS AS FAR AS WHERE [INAUDIBLE] IS.

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THEY'RE PUTTING IN ABOUT 16 POLES.

SO IT'S ABOUT ONE ONE KILOMETER WHERE THE LIGHTING HAS STOPPED AS OF.

SO IS THERE A PLAN AFOOT FOR THE REST OF IT? BECAUSE I THOUGHT FROM LAST YEAR'S BUDGET THAT FROM THE ARENA UP TO THE HILLSIDE NORTH.

YEAH, NORTH. YEAH.

THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN DONE AS WELL.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE IS A PLAN TO FULFILL THAT PART.

YOUR WORSHIP. I'M SO FROM THE ARENA UP TO.

I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE AREA, BUT THE LIGHTING HAS BEEN DONE UP THROUGH THROUGH THERE ALONG THE WALKWAY AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.

MORE HIGHLIGHTING.

COUNCILLOR TURNER. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

MR. DOYLE JUST ANSWERED ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.

16 POLES.

SO ROUGHLY $4,000 IN INSTALLATION.

I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT.

OKAY. CAN YOU TELL ME, ARE WE FOLLOWING ALONG WITH THE SAME DESIGN OF POLES AS EXISTS NOW BETWEEN ESTON AND ESTON? SAME STYLE.

DO YOU WORSHIP? YES, WE ARE.

IT'LL BE THE SAME. SAME.

SAME SENSE OF LIGHTING.

GOOD. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? THEN I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE THEN.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT IS CARRIED.

THANK YOU. PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS 8.1 MEMO FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT UPDATES.

[8. PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS]

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

I'M HAVING TROUBLE GETTING IT ON HERE.

AT THE SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2022 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDING COMMITTEE MEETING, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THAT THE MEMO OF THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BE RECEIVED AND FORWARDED TO COUNCIL.

AND I SO MOVE.

THE SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

COUNCILLOR TURNER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAND IT OVER TO MR. ANTUNES? I BELIEVE MR. ANTUNES WILL GO THROUGH IT AND WE CAN PERHAPS ASK HIM TO PAUSE OCCASIONALLY.

IT'S A FAIRLY LENGTHY REPORT.

THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

IN CONSIDERATION OF THE FAIRLY MEDIA AGENDA THAT WE STILL HAVE AHEAD OF US, OTHER THAN THE INITIAL PART OF THE REPORT THANKING THE HARD WORK OF MR. HURD AND MRS. DOYLE IN THE DEPARTMENT.

I TRUST COUNCIL'S HAD A CHANCE TO READ THROUGH THE REPORT AND IT WAS RATHER LENGTHY AND I DO TEND TO CHAT A LITTLE TOO MUCH WHEN READING MY REPORTS [INAUDIBLE] SO HAPPY TO LET COUNCIL ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE OF THE REPORT UNLESS THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC POINTS THAT COUNCIL CHOOSES ME TO SPEAK TO.

OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON MR. ANTUNES MONTHLY UPDATE? [INAUDIBLE] SEEING NONE.

THEN I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE TO RECEIVE ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. ANTUNES, THANK YOU.

8.2 REPORT FROM THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROCESS TO ACCEPT OFFERS ON 255 HIGHWAY 108.

COUNCILLOR TURNER. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

AT THE SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2022 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDING COMMITTEE MEETING FOLLOWING A RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THAT THE REPORT OF THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BE RECEIVED AND FORWARDED TO COUNCIL, AND THAT COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO ACCEPT LETTERS OF INTENT ON 255 HIGHWAY 108 UNTIL OCTOBER 30TH, 2022 AND BRING THEM FORTH TO COUNCIL AT THE EARLIEST OPPORTUNITY.

AND I SO MOVE, SECOND.

SECOND BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, COUNCILLOR TURNER.

AND THIS OVER TO MR. ANTUNES. MR. ANTUNES HAS IT ALL PREPARED AND I'D LIKE US TO PASS IT OVER TO HIM AND LET HIM TELL US ABOUT IT.

MR. ANTUNES.

THANKS YOUR WORSHIP AND THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, FROM THE COMMITTEE, SOME IMPORTANT NOTES.

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PAST SEVERAL MONTHS HAVE SEEN SEVERAL INVESTORS EXPRESS INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY AND AS THE LAND WAS PART OF A GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE ARTS CENTER.

ANYONE THAT HAD CALLED DURING MY TENURE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BASICALLY GOT THE SAME STATIC ANSWER OF IT'S CURRENTLY PART OF A GRANT APPLICATION AND NOT SLATED FOR SALE.

COUNCIL DID ONCE A GRANT WAS TURNED DOWN.

COUNCIL DID DECLARE THE LOT SURPLUS AND MOVING FORWARD WITH OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.

SOME BASIC THINGS TO CONSIDER FROM THE REPORT AND THAT'S COME OUT FROM THE REPORT IS THAT THE LOT DOES HAVE A SIGN ON IT PER OUR LAND SALE POLICY.

BUT THE LOT OR THE SIGN STATES THE LOT IS AVAILABLE AND NOT INDEED FOR SALE.

THIS REPORT IS TO OUTLINE THE PROCESS IN WHICH STAFF WILL BRING OFFERS TO COUNCIL.

THERE IS NOT AN EXISTING OFFER ON THE LOT, BUT THIS PROCESS IS IN PLACE AGAIN OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS.

HAVING TOLD PROPONENTS THAT THE LOTS ARE NOT AVAILABLE, NOT AVAILABLE, HAVING A TIME PERIOD SET OUT CREATES A FAIR SENSE OF FAIRNESS AND OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL INVESTORS TO COME THROUGH THAT HAVE BEEN TURNED AWAY FROM THE LOT IN PREVIOUS MONTHS.

ANOTHER BENEFIT OF THIS IS THAT IT ALLOWS COUNCIL TO HAVE AN IDEA OF THE VALUE OF THE LOT, WHICH IS WOULD BE DICTATED BY THE OPEN MARKET THROUGH VALUE OF WHAT'S OFFERED.

THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY THERE.

AND ULTIMATELY COUNCIL STILL HAS THE FULL OPPORTUNITY TO DECLINE ALL OFFERS THAT COME THROUGH.

WE CAN GET ONE OFFER, WE CAN GET 50 OFFERS.

COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO TO DECLINE ALL OFFERS THAT COME IN.

THIS IS JUST TO TELL THOSE INVESTORS THAT ARE REACHING OUT TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICE SAYING, SEE THE LOTS THERE? IT'S BEEN DECLARED SURPLUS.

WHAT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH IT? WHAT CAN WE DO? CAN WE PUT IN AN OFFER? ULTIMATELY, THIS IS NOT AN RFP.

AN RFP IS PUTTING A FOR SALE SIGN OUT SAYING WE ARE GOING TO SELL IT.

WHAT'S THE BEST OFFER THAT'S GOING TO COME THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS JUST A WAY TO CLARIFY FOR STAFF HOW TO BRING TO COUNCIL THE OFFERS OVER THE NEXT OVER A SET PERIOD OF TIME, WHICH WOULD LET COUNCIL MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.

IF WE DO GET AN OFFER FOR $10 MILLION FOR THE LOT, PERHAPS THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO ACCEPT AND MOVE FORWARD.

IF IF THERE ARE NO OFFERS THAT SUIT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL, THEN ALL PROPONENTS ARE TURNED AWAY AND SUCH ESSENTIALLY NO HARM, NO FOUL OTHER THAN GETTING COUNCIL MORE INFORMATION. SO OTHER THAN THE VERY LENGTHY REPORT, I HOPE I COVERED ANYTHING BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MR. ANTUNES, YOU DID ANSWER A LOT OF QUESTIONS THERE.

SO THE PROPERTY HAS ALREADY BEEN DECLARED SURPLUS.

WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS A FAIR BIDDING PROCESS TO ALLOW COUNCIL TO CHOOSE THE BEST FIT FOR THE PROPERTY OR POSSIBLY NONE.

SO I VERY MUCH APPRECIATED HOW YOU BROUGHT THIS FORWARD AND I'D OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE. FIRST OFF, BASED ON YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. ANTUNES. SO THE DIALOG THAT YOU JUST SPOKE OF STATED THAT THERE'S NOT A FOR SALE SIGN ON IT, BUT THERE IS.

AND AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING I COMMENTED ON THAT AND COUNCILLOR PEARCE SAID THAT COUNCIL ACTUALLY APPROVED TO PUT THAT FOR SALE SIGN ON IT.

SO. FOR CLARIFICATION, THERE IS A FOR SALE SIGN ON THAT PROPERTY RIGHT NOW THAT WAS PUT THERE BY STAFF, CORRECT? MR. ANTUNES.

THROUGH YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

YES, SIR. NO, SIR.

NOT TO PLAY SEMANTICS, BUT THERE'S NOT A FOR SALE SIGN ON IT.

COUNCIL DECLARED THE LOT SURPLUS.

IT SAYS THE LOTS AVAILABLE.

IT DOESN'T SAY THE LOT IS FOR SALE.

AGAIN, WE'RE SPLITTING HAIRS.

IT'S SEMANTICS. BUT IT WAS VERY, VERY CONSCIOUS DIRECTION PUT THROUGH TO NOT SAY FOR SALE IT'S THE LOT WAS AVAILABLE BECAUSE IT WAS DECLARED SURPLUS.

ALSO FOLLOW UP, COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

I DO. IT IS SEMANTICS IN MY OPINION AND IN THE OPINION OF THE MAJORITY OF THE PUBLIC THAT I HEARD FROM.

IT'S A FOR SALE SIGN ON THE PROPERTY THAT WASN'T DIRECTED BY COUNCIL.

BUT AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO SPLIT HAIRS.

I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

BUT BEFORE I GO ON, YOUR WORSHIP, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION OF MR. ANTUNES, IF I MAY.

WHEN THOSE PEOPLE ARE CONTACTING YOU WITH INTEREST ON THAT PROPERTY, HAVE YOU ALSO GIVEN THEM THE AVAILABILITY OF 151 ONTARIO, WHICH IS A MUCH BIGGER PROPERTY AND IS AGAIN, AS WELL AS IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE?

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COUNCILLOR PATRIE. I MEAN, WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR QUITE A WHILE, I THINK.

YOU KNOW, I'M QUITE THE CONSUMMATE SALES PERSON.

I WOULD OFFER ANY LOT AVAILABLE IN TOWN.

AND WE DO SPEAK ANYONE THAT TALKS OR CALLS INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SPEAKING OF SPECIFIC DESIGN PRIORITY, WE TRY AND OFFER ALL LOTS OF SIZES AVAILABLE. SO WE DO MENTION 151 ONTARIO.

WE DO MENTION THE CIVIC CENTER LOT.

AND PRIOR TO THE SALE OF OTHER LOTS IN TOWN, INCLUDING ONE ON OAKLAND, WE ACTUALLY DID SPEAK OF THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR VISIBILITY AND EVEN SOME PRIVATE SALE, LOTS THAT WERE AVAILABLE AS WELL.

SO THE LONG ANSWER TO YOUR SHORT QUESTION IS ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S I, I WILL TRY AND SELL ANY PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE CAN FOR THE RIGHT FIT.

FINAL FOLLOW UP, COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

NO, NO. NO I ACTUALLY HAVE MY COMMENTS THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE.

IT'S NOT A FOLLOW UP TO MR. ANTUNES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE.

THE ISSUE I HAVE IS THE COUNCIL IS TRYING TO PROCESS AND SELL THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

THE TWO PROPONENTS THAT SPOKE THIS EVENING TOTALLY AGREE.

IF WE COULD GET A BUDGET HOTEL IN THIS COMMUNITY, IT'S THE BEST THING THAT WE COULD EVER GET.

I DON'T WANT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY TO BE CHANGED FROM THE CIVIC CENTER.

IT IS ALREADY READY TO BE A CIVIC CENTER.

THE SERVICES ARE IN PLACE.

WE'RE GOING TO SAVE THE TAXPAYERS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PUT A NEW CIVIC CENTER THEATER THERE.

AND YEAH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET $1,000,000 FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

WE KNOW THAT. WE KNOW WHAT OUR PROPERTIES ARE BEING SOLD FOR.

STAFF DO HAVE THE APPRAISAL OF WHAT THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY VALUED AT.

IT'S IT'S NOT GOING TO FETCH BIG DOLLARS ON THE SALE.

A HOTEL WILL FETCH BIG DOLLARS IN TAX REVENUE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK FOR AS A COUNCIL.

I'M 100% IF YOU'VE GOT PROPONENTS THAT MR. CALVERLEY HAS INFORMATION THAT THERE'S PROPONENTS TALKING TO STAFF THAT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT, THAT WANT TO BUILD HOTELS, MR. LAUREN SAYS THERE'S TWO PEOPLE.

I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. IT'S NEVER BEEN BROUGHT TO COUNCILORS.

SOME MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MAY KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S NOT BEING BROUGHT FORWARD TO ALL OF US.

SO. IF THERE'S AN OFFICIAL OFFER, LET THE OFFERS COME FORWARD.

MY POINT IS, WE'RE TRYING TO SELL ONE OF THE TWO BIG PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE NOT DECLARED 151 SURPLUS BECAUSE.

I DON'T KNOW WHY SOME MEMBERS DON'T WANT IT SOLD.

THE POINT BECOMES, IF WE'RE GOING TO SELL A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO A COMMERCIAL ENDEAVOR, IF THEY WANT TO MAKE AN OFFER TO THE MUNICIPALITY, BRING IT FORWARD.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

OUR CEO AT THE THE COMMITTEE MEETING SAID IT'S COUNCIL'S TO SELL.

I DON'T THINK IT'S COUNCIL'S TO SELL.

I THINK IT'S UP TO THE PEOPLE.

AND I THINK FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE PEOPLE IS LET'S NOT DO THIS THIS FAST, LET'S DO THIS RIGHT.

WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH THIS THROUGH SO THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN SELL IT AND SIGN THE DOCUMENTS PRIOR TO THE NEW COUNCIL BEING SWORN IN.

THE CLOSING IS OCTOBER 30TH.

SURE IT'S LAME DUCK. AND WE'VE GIVEN AUTHORITY TO THE CEO THAT HE CAN SELL IT AFTER OCTOBER 24TH.

I TOTALLY DISAGREE.

I THINK THAT THIS SHOULD BE.

WAIT, HOLD IT OVER.

LET'S LEAVE THIS ON THE TABLE FOR AN ADDITIONAL 30 DAYS.

IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICER SAYS THERE ARE NO OFFERS YET.

THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY OFFERS YET.

IT'S BEEN A BUNCH OF DIALOG, SO THAT'S FINE.

PUT PEN TO PAPER AND BRING IT FORWARD AND WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS.

BUT TO ACTUALLY GO OUT THERE AND ACTIVELY PUT IT ON THE MARKET TO SAY WE WANT PRICES FROM PEOPLE.

I DON'T AGREE WITH DOING THIS.

I THINK THIS SHOULD BE HELD OVER UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION.

LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE.

IT IS A ELECTION ITEM.

IT'S AN ISSUE. THE POINT IS THIS SHOULD BE HELD BACK AND WAIT.

I THINK THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE SELLING IT.

WE SHOULD BE LEAVING THAT IN PLACE FOR A NEW THEATER.

WE NEED TO.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH I CAN SAY ON THIS.

SO WE'VE GIVEN DIRECTION TO STAFF.

AGAIN, I WAS OPPOSED TO IT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ALL THE INSURANCE MONEY ON A TEMPORARY SPACE WHERE WE HAD A BUDGET OF $1,000,000.

AND THEN THAT'S GOING TO TAKE MONEY AWAY THAT WE CAN'T BUILD OR IT'S GOING TO TAKE AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY AWAY IN ORDER FOR US TO NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD WITHOUT HAVING TO CREATE MORE TAX DOLLARS, TO PUT A NEW THEATER WELCOME CENTER AND MUSEUM AT THE HIGHWAY 108 SITE.

SO. I WOULD LIKE IT TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, STAFF HAS HAD THREE YEARS TO PUT THE MILLION DOLLAR WORK IN.

WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT.

WE SHOULD BE GETTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT RENOVATION DONE BEFORE THE MARCH DEADLINE ON THE FUNDING OF THE $750,000.

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IF WE SPEND THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS ON THE [INAUDIBLE] PROPERTY OR THE LAKE THEATER PROPERTY.

THERE'S GOING TO BE NO MONEY LEFT AND IT'S GOING TO BECOME A PERMANENT HOME.

I DON'T AGREE WITH DOING THIS.

AND GUARANTEED, IF WE TRY AND SELL THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET YOUR THEATER REPLACED.

I THINK YOU JUST WAIT.

LET IT LEAVE IT TILL AFTER THE ELECTION.

DEFER IT FOR 30 DAYS.

JUST WAIT. THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO DO.

MR. DANIEL. SORRY, MR. ANTUNE'S [INAUDIBLE].

JUST. JUST TO CLARIFY, IT WAS DECLARED SURPLUS TO THE NEEDS OF THE MUNICIPALITY IN EARLY AUGUST, SO STAFF IS COMPLETELY FOLLOWING STANDARD PROCESS BY PUTTING A SIGN UP AS PER OUR OWN LAND SALE POLICY THAT SAYS WE SHOULD EITHER NOTIFY THE PUBLIC OF ITS STATUS AS SURPLUS VIA NEWSPAPER OR A SIGN.

WE CHOSE A SIGN.

SO IT'S ALREADY PART OF COUNCIL'S ENDORSED LAND SALE POLICY, SO WE DIDN'T NEED COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO PUT A SIGN UP.

BUT ABSOLUTELY, IT'S UP TO COUNCIL TO DIRECT US WHETHER YOU WISH TO DEFER THIS TO THE NEXT COUNCIL OR SALLY FORTH ON A DIRECTION THAT YOU'VE ALREADY GIVEN, WHICH IS TO DECLARE IT SURPLUS TO THE NEEDS OF MUNICIPALITY.

AND THAT DECISION WAS MADE BEFORE LAME DUCK IN EARLY AUGUST.

AND NOW WE'RE JUST SEEKING DIRECTION AS TO WHAT DO WE DO NOW AND WHAT DOES MR. ANTUNES SAY WHEN THE PHONE KEEPS RINGING? CAN YOU CLARIFY THE COSTS ON THE REEL TO REEL? BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE CONFUSION OUT THERE TOO, THAT WE'RE SPENDING ALL THE INSURANCE MONEY ON THIS RETROFIT.

YEAH. I MEAN, WHEN THE FIRST STAFF REPORT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, WE DIDN'T KNOW AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, SINCERE OBJECTIVE OF SECURING NOHFC FUNDING TO GO ON IN ADDITION TO THE 750 THAT IS SECURED FROM FED NOR ALL INDICATIONS ARE QUITE GOOD.

WE HAVE THE STAGE ONE ALREADY SUBMITTED, SO WE ARE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC THAT WE WILL GET THE NOHFC TO COME TO THE TABLE, WHICH WILL LEAVE MORE IN THE ARTS AND CULTURE RESERVE FOR FUTURE COUNCIL TO DETERMINE HOW BEST TO USE THOSE FUNDS.

SO WE PLAN TO NOT BE EXHAUSTING THAT ARTS RESERVE WITH THE REEL TO REEL RENOVATION.

IF THE NEW HFC COMES ON, AS WE ANTICIPATE WE SHOULD HAVE ROUGHLY, I'M GUESSING HERE, HALF OF THE $4 MILLION LEFT IF THE NOHFC COMES TO THE TABLE, IF THEY DO NOT, OR THAT WHEN WE GO TO TENDER IF THE COSTS ARE STILL PROHIBITIVE.

THE COUNCIL OF THE DAY, WHENEVER THAT DATE LANDS, WILL DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE OF THE REEL TO REEL BASED ON REEL COSTS WHEN THE PROJECT GOES TO TENDER.

NOW WE'RE DRIFTING INTO MY FUTURE UPDATE AT THE ARTS AND CULTURE, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.

OKAY, THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN.

THANK YOU. YOUR WORSHIP I COULD HAVE PROBABLY GONE ON VERY SIMILAR TO COUNCILLOR PATRIE WITH SOME OF MY COMMENTS, BUT ACTUALLY IN REVIEWING THE ACTUAL REPORT, AGAIN, I THOUGHT I'M GOING TO CHANGE KIND OF MIDSTREAM.

FIRST, I WANT TO THANK MR. ANTUNES FOR GIVING A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF HIS REPORT BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY THERE WAS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION ABOUT THIS MATTER IN THE COMMUNITY OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF DAYS. TONIGHT WE WERE SELLING SOMETHING.

CLEARLY, THAT'S NOT THE PROCESS.

YOU'RE LAYING OUT THE ROADMAP TO SELL SOMETHING.

I'M STILL NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING TONIGHT.

I THINK THE OTHER PIECE THAT'S A REAL ISSUE IS.

IF SOMETHING WAS UNTOWARD.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THERE IS WE WOULDN'T HAVE A DEADLINE OF OCTOBER 30TH, WHICH IS CLEARLY AFTER THE ELECTION.

SO IF THIS WAS OCTOBER 23RD OF A DEADLINE, I'M SURE ALL OF US WOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A CONCERN WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY.

HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT, AND I DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM THE SPEAKERS EARLIER TONIGHT, IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT GOES THERE.

IT'S ABOUT DO WE SELL IT OR NOT? AND MR. DANIELS CORRECT.

THIS COUNCIL, RIGHT OR WRONG, HAS PROVIDED A MANDATE TO STAFF TO GO OUT AND DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING, MARKET A PIECE OF PROPERTY, NOT SELL IT, NOT WHATEVER.

WE TRADITIONALLY DON'T PUT SIGNS ON PROPERTY, WHICH AGAIN IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S OCCURRED AND HAS CREATED A LARGER STIR IN TOWN, WHICH NORMALLY DOESN'T OCCUR. BUT AGAIN, IT'S PART OF THIS VORTEX, WHICH HAS BEEN CREATED THIS FALL IN 2022.

OVERALL, MY COMMENTS ARE, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE GOING DOWN THIS PATH.

I'M NOT PREPARED TO SELL IT.

THEREFORE, I DON'T NEED THE PROCESS.

SO AS FOR MY COMMENTS, THEY REMAIN CONSISTENT AS WHAT I HAVE SAID.

I HAVE TOLD PEOPLE I WILL CONSIDER SELLING THINGS.

I'LL CONSIDER SELLING ANYTHING, BUT I'M NOT PREPARED TO SELL THIS RIGHT NOW.

SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR CYR.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

AS MUCH AS I WANT ANOTHER HOTEL IN ELLIOT LAKE AND AS MUCH AS I KNOW WE NEED IT, I THINK.

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AND I'M STILL OPPOSED TO CHANGING DEVIATING FROM THAT PATH.

THIS CITY FOR THE LAST 30 PLUS YEARS AND PROBABLY EVEN LONGER HAS CONTINUED USING OLDER BUILDINGS TO TO TO RESCUE, LET'S SAY, RESCUE OLDER BUILDINGS, TO REPURPOSE THEM FOR COMMUNITY USE.

AND WHERE HAS IT GOTTEN US? THE CIVIC CENTER WAS ONCE PRIVATELY HELD.

IT WAS TAKEN OVER FROM THE CITY.

AND HOW MANY? HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS [INAUDIBLE] OVER THE YEARS, HOW MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WAS SPENT INTO THAT BUILDING TO HAVE IT SERVE THE COMMUNITY? AND WHAT HAPPENED TO IT? IN 19.

1994 OR 2014? NO. WHITE MOUNTAIN.

THE VERY BUILDING THAT ACTUALLY CAUSED SUCH AN UPROAR THAT MADE ME DECIDE TO RUN FOR COUNCIL IN 2014.

HOW MUCH MUNICIPAL MONEY WAS SPENT INTO WHITE MOUNTAIN AND WHAT HAPPENED TO IT? AND NOW COUNSEL AGAIN WANTS TO TRY TO SAVE OTHER BUILDINGS, TO REPURPOSE IT, FOR MUNICIPAL USE TO FOR YES, WE DO NEED A NEW A MUSEUM AND IT IS URGENT.

BUT HOW MUCH MORE MUNICIPAL FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE WASTED INTO RESCUING THESE BUILDINGS? AND HOW LONG WOULD IT LAST? SO THE COMMUNITY, THE CITIZENS, WILL HAVE LOST ONE OF THEIR PRIME PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR A LOT THAT'S ACTUALLY THE LAND SALE IS BEING RUSHED TO AS FAR AS I CAN SEE, JUST TO GET ANOTHER FEATHER IN OUR CAP THAT WE SOLD ANOTHER LOT.

THERE IS NO PROPOSALS IN FRONT OF US TO SAY WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.

HOW BIG IS HOW BIG WILL IT BE, HOW MANY ROOMS ARE, WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE? WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.

SO FOR ALL WE KNOW, IT COULD BE SPECULATION.

AND THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BUILD WHEN THEY BUILD, JUST LIKE WE HAD WITH OUR PEARSON PLAZA, WHERE IT TOOK HOW MANY YEARS TO BUILD BECAUSE IT WAS SOLD WITH NO ATTACHMENTS.

AND MR. WE KNOW WHO JUST CHOSE TO TAKE HIS SWEET TIME TO DEVELOP IT.

AND HOW MUCH, HOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY SUFFERED DURING THAT LONG, FOUR, FIVE YEARS? I KNOW ALL THIS PARDEN WHERE WE JUST WAITED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TO MOVE ON AND MOVE ON AND IT WAS NEVER COMING.

SO WHEN WILL WE LEARN? I'M OPPOSED TO RESCUING OLD BUILDINGS FOR MUNICIPAL USE.

COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

THANK YOU. WORSHIP THROUGH YOU TO MR. ANTUNES. THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A VERY CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT, BUT ARE WE OPEN FOR BUSINESS OR ARE WE NOT? WHEN WE PUT WHEN WE DESIGNATE SOMETHING AS BEING SURPLUS, IT MEANS THAT IT'S AVAILABLE FOR SALE.

IT'S AVAILABLE FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN IF WE DON'T SELL THE PROPERTIES WE HAVE THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PEOPLE THAT WANT THEM.

WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BUILD OUR TAX BASE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD IN THE FUTURE TO LOOK AT BUILDING A NEW ART CENTER, A NEW ARENA, A NEW POOL.

WHATEVER THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS, WE NEED TO HAVE A FULL COMMUNITY WITH ALL THE AMENITIES THAT WILL KEEP THE PEOPLE HERE, THAT WILL BRING MORE PEOPLE HERE.

AND THIS IS A STEP FORWARD TO DO THAT.

HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE GOING TO MAKE MISTAKES AND KEEP SAYING NO? WE NEED TO SAY YES.

WE NEED TO SAY WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS AND I HAVE NO IDEA IF IT'S GOING TO BE A HOTEL THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THAT SITE.

EVERYONE IN TOWN THINKS WE NEED A NEW HOTEL.

AND I CAN SEE THAT THAT NEED IS THERE IT IS IT IS THERE FOR TO HAVE COMPETITION IS GOOD FOR COMMERCE.

IT'S ALSO GOOD FOR, AS MR. LAUREN STATED, FOR TO HAVE SPORTS TEAMS COMES AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A FULLER COMMUNITY THAN WE HAVE NOW.

BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW OUR STAFF TO DO THEIR JOB.

AND ALL MR. ANTUNES IS DOING IS DOING WHAT IS SET OUT.

IN THE JOB, WHICH HE HAS BEEN HIRED TO DO, WHICH IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO I'M FOR LETTING THIS PROCESS GO THE WAY THAT MR. ANTUNES HAS STATED.

I THINK THAT IT'S HISTORICALLY HOW WE DO THINGS IN TOWN AND I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THE MESSAGE THAT WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS, WE ARE OPEN FOR GROWTH, WE NEED TAXATION DOLLARS IN ORDER TO MOVE AHEAD WITH ALL OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

WE'RE GOING TO HEAR OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FROM MS. SONNENBURG SHORTLY. THAT'S GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT OUR RESERVES AND HOW WE NEED TO BUILD THEM UP.

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WE DON'T HAVE LARGE INDUSTRY.

WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE OPEN SO THAT INDUSTRIES THAT WE DO HAVE CAN EXPAND AND THAT WE CAN ATTRACT MORE SMALL INDUSTRIES HERE.

BUT IF WE KEEP TELLING THE PUBLIC AND THE PUBLIC KEEPS HEARING AND INVESTORS KEEP HEARING THAT WE CAN'T MAKE UP OUR MINDS OR THAT WE'RE NOT OPEN FOR BUSINESS, THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO COME. COUNCILLOR TURNER.

THANK YOU WORSHIP. I HAVE TO SAY, I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT COUNCILLOR FINAMORE HAS JUST SAID.

AND I WANT TO COMMENT ON THE IDEA OF RESCUING OLD BUILDINGS.

THE REEL TO REEL THEATER IS BEING RENOVATED AS A STOPGAP.

THERE'S A METHOD OF SUPPLYING THE ARTS COMMUNITY WITH A SPACE FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS. NOW, IF THE ARTS COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT THAT SPACE THAT WORKS FOR ME, WE'LL LEAVE THE MONEY IN THE BANK AND JUST GET WORKING ON BUILDING A NEW CENTER, WHICH I BELIEVE WE SHOULD DO.

HOWEVER, EVEN IF WE HAD ALL THE MONEY IN THE BANK TODAY AND WE STARTED THE BUILDING PROCESS TOMORROW, YOU WOULD NOT GET IN THAT DOOR FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS.

IT TAKES ALMOST A YEAR JUST TO GET THE PLANS DONE.

THE ARCHITECTS.

THE IDEA CORPORATION SPOKE TO US AT A PUBLIC MEETING AND LAID OUT THE TIMELINES FOR THIS KIND OF PROJECT.

SO IN THE INTERIM, IF THE ARTS COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT A PLACE TO HAVE THEIR EVENTS.

PERFORM THEIR ARTS.

SAY SO WE'LL JUST LEAVE THE MONEY IN THE BANK.

NOW THE ONE THING THAT REALLY BOTHERS ME IS THAT WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE INFER THAT THEY REALLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT BUT WANT TO DEFER TO SOME OTHER DATE FURTHER DOWN. PREFERABLY THE THING GETS LOST IN THE ETHER, OR REFER IT TO ANOTHER COMMITTEE OR GROUP OR STAFF TO STUDY.

WHAT WE NEED IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.

AND IT'LL BE THE JOB OF THE FUTURE COUNCIL.

USED TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON THIS.

DO EITHER SAY BUILD OR DON'T BUILD AND THEN JUST PUT THE MATTER TO BED.

IF YOU WANT TO HOLD THE PUBLIC REFERENDA REFERENDUM ON IT, THAT WORKS FOR ME TOO.

I'D BE JUST AS HAPPY WITH THAT.

BUT IN THE INTERIM, THIS COUNCIL IS TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN FOR THE EXISTING ARTS COMMUNITY TO COVER THEM FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THE PROPERTY BEING REFERRED TO ON 108 STAFF IS JUST DOING WHAT COUNCIL TOLD THEM.

AND THAT IS HAVING DECLARED IT SURPLUS.

THEY'VE COME BACK TO US AND SAID HERE IS THE PROCESS THAT WE PROPOSE IF WE RECEIVE OFFERS.

AND THE BIG WORD IS IF.

COUNCIL WILL MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER THEY LIKE WHAT'S BEING OFFERED.

WHAT PROJECT IS PROPOSED, WHETHER OR NOT COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN IT.

OKAY. THERE'S NOT DONE DEALS HERE.

AND IT'LL CLEARLY BE THE NEXT COUNCIL THAT DECIDES ON THE OFFERS.

OKAY. IT'S NOT THAT FAR IN THE FUTURE.

SO. UNTIL THE END OF OCTOBER STAFF WILL RECEIVE WHATEVER KIND OF OFFERS OR PROPOSALS THERE ARE.

ONCE THEY'RE ALL IN STAFF WILL ACCUMULATE THE INFORMATION.

PROCESS IT AND ANALYZE IT AND FORWARD IT TO COUNCIL WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND THE COUNCIL OF THE DAY WILL MAKE A DECISION.

ON WHETHER OR NOT TO ACCEPT ANYTHING.

THAT'S ALL THAT'S HAPPENING TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THORUGH YOU.

A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, I GUESS THE.

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WHO MADE THAT DECISION.

I DON'T RECALL ANYBODY IN THIS LOCATION MAKING THAT DECISION.

WELL, WE MADE IT, BUT WE ALSO CHANGED IT.

WE CAN DO THAT. THERE'S BEEN AN AWFUL LOT OF STUFF FLOATING AROUND IN THIS COMMUNITY OVER THIS, WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE THE RIGHT. HOW DARE YOU INTERFERE WITH THE ARTS COMMUNITY AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS SUPPORTED THE ARTS COMMUNITY SINCE I GOT HERE . I FIND THAT ABSOLUTELY INSULTING.

ABSOLUTELY INSULTING.

WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO THE ARTS COMMUNITY.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS DEVELOP THIS COMMUNITY.

AS COUNCILLOR FINAMORE HAS STATED, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO BUILD UP OUR COMMUNITY, BUILD OUR TAX BASE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE KIND OF FACILITIES WE NEED TO HAVE.

AS FOR THE COMMENTS ABOUT OLD BUILDINGS BEING RENOVATED OR NOT RENOVATED AND THEN FALLING APART.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE WHITE MOUNTAIN, THE MAJORITY OF THAT MONEY IN FACT, I'M PRETTY SURE MOST ALMOST 95% OF THAT MONEY CAME FROM THE PROVINCE AND THE FEDS, NOT FROM THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE. AND IT WAS ALLOWED TO FALL APART BY THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE.

WE CAN GET INTO A REALLY INTERESTING DISCUSSION ON ONE ON WHITE MOUNTAIN IF YOU WANT TO, BECAUSE I WAS THERE.

SO IT WAS COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT.

I DON'T LIKE PEOPLE MAKING COMMENTS LIKE THAT WITHOUT GETTING THEIR FACTS STRAIGHT.

MR. ANTUNES HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB FOR THIS COMMUNITY OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

HE'S DONE EVERYTHING WE'VE ASKED HIM TO DO, PLUS.

AND THAT'S ALL HE'S DOING HERE TONIGHT.

THE ONLY DECISION WE'RE MAKING TONIGHT IS WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT THE PROCESS THAT HE HAS PROPOSED.

I WOULD, HOWEVER, BELIEVE THAT WE MAY END MAKING A DECISION TO SELL THAT PROPERTY PRIOR TO THE NEW COUNCIL BEING SWORN IN.

THAT'S UP TO THIS COUNCIL.

IF IT COMES BEFORE US, IT MAY NOT COME BEFORE US.

WE DON'T KNOW. BUT THE DECISION WILL BE MADE IN PUBLIC AND IT WILL BE TOLD TO THE PEOPLE IN THE PROPER MANNER.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE'RE PUTTING UP WITH ALL THIS NONSENSE BECAUSE OF AN ELECTION CAMPAIGN AS OPPOSED TO WHAT'S BEEN GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO ALL I CAN SAY TO YOU PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING ALL THIS NOISE IS CALM DOWN.

THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

WE'RE TRYING VERY HARD TO DO OUR BEST UP HERE.

SOMETIMES IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

AND YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU. A LOT OF PASSIONATE COMMENTS MADE ABOUT A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

I'M GOING TO TAKE MY TURN HERE AND I THINK COUNCILLOR PATRIE WANTS TO SPEAK AGAIN.

A LOT OF GOOD HAS BEEN SAID AND AS I MENTIONED, THIS PROPERTY HAS ALREADY BEEN DECLARED SURPLUS.

MR. ANTUNES IS LOOKING FOR A FAIR PROCESS.

I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE SAYING WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY OFFERS HE WAS GIVEN.

STAFF WAS GIVEN CLEAR DIRECTION THAT WE WOULD NOT ACCEPT ANY OFFERS FOR MANY, MANY, MANY MONTHS.

SO MR. ANTUNES HAS BEEN CLEAR, THERE'S BEEN MANY REACH OUTS, BUT HE'S DENIED ANY ONE OF THOSE REACH OUTS.

THIS IS LOOKING FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY GROWTH, THE THINGS WE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND IT'S NOT JUST GROWING OUR TAX BASE, IT'S OPENING THE DOORS FOR ADDITIONAL TOURISM, THAT BEING SPORTS TOURISM, THINGS THAT WE CAN'T HANDLE RIGHT NOW, CONFERENCES, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HOTEL ROOMS TO HOST THE EVENTS THAT WE COULD BE HOSTING, WHICH DRIVES TRAFFIC TO OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.

HISTORICALLY, THIS PROPERTY THAT WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT, AND I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THE WHOLE ART CENTER BECAUSE THAT'S NOT EVEN ON THE AGENDA HERE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HISTORICALLY WAS A HOTEL, THEN A STRIP CLUB , THEN A CHURCH, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THEN RENOVATED INTO A CIVIC CENTER.

I'M STILL PISSED OFF AT THE ENGINEERS.

WE HAD A CLEAR REPORT COME TO OUR COUNCIL STATING THAT THE ONLY ISSUES WITH THAT BUILDING WAS FOUNDATION PROBLEMS. OUR COUNCIL APPROVED A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS TO REPAIR A FOUNDATION.

THREE MONTHS LATER, THE ROOF COLLAPSED.

IF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A NIGHT LATER, I'D BE DEAD.

MY WHOLE FAMILY WOULD BE DEAD, ALONG WITH MANY OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF TRUSTING ENGINEERS.

NO, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF BAND AIDS ON BUILDINGS.

AS COUNCILLOR TURNER STATED.

THE REEL TO REEL IS A STOPGAP SO THAT OUR ARTS COMMUNITY ISN'T HOMELESS.

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I DON'T WANT YOU HOMELESS.

I THINK THERE'S OTHER LOCATIONS THAT ARE QUITE SUITABLE FOR A 400 SEAT THEATER, A MUSEUM.

THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR PARTNERSHIPS.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PEARSON PLAZA, WHICH IS TOTALLY OFF TOPIC, ALSO THERE WAS NO COVENANT TO BUILD.

MY COUNCIL COMING IN IN 2014 TO 2015 CREATED A SUBCOMMITTEE, THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND STAFF THAT GOT EVERY CONTRACT SIGNED FOR THAT BUILDING.

MR. WILLIAM ELLIOTT DROVE TO MONTREAL TO GET CONTRACTS SIGNED SAME DAY SO THAT BUILDING WOULD BE BUILT.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DO OUR DUE PROCESS IF WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT ANY OFFER THAT THERE IS A PROPER COVENANT TO BUILD AND THAT IT SUITS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.

IT'S ABOUT GROWTH AND OUR FUTURE, NOT LIVING IN THE PAST.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP AGAIN BASED ON THE COMMENTS.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY AT THIS TABLE IS OPPOSED TO GROWTH.

I THINK EVERYBODY HERE THAT I'VE SAT WITH FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS DOES WANT TO SEE GROWTH.

WE DO WANT TO SEE PEOPLE BUILD BUILDINGS.

WE ARE ALL IN FAVOR OF A NEW HOTEL.

I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY THAT HAS EVER SAID NO SITTING AT THIS TABLE.

I THINK IT'S THE WRONG LOCATION.

WE'VE HAD THREE YEARS TO BUILD THE TEMPORARY SPACE AND WE HAVEN'T DONE IT.

AND AS COUNCILLOR TURNER SAYS, IT TAKES A YEAR TO GET THE PLANS FORWARD.

WE HAVE TO START NEW PLANS BASED ON THE REPORT THAT CAME A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHERE YOU'RE STARTING FRESH TO SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AS OPPOSED TO $1,000,000.

SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ANYTHING BUILT, TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT IN OVER A YEAR.

SO THE GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS ARE ALREADY [INAUDIBLE] FOR PROBABLY A YEAR TO, AGAIN, 1 TO 3 YEARS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

THE THE FEAR I HAVE AND I DON'T CARE IF STAFF WAS WILLING TO DELAY THIS 30 DAYS AND STAFF CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THE OFFERS.

THE ISSUE I HAVE IS AT THAT COMMITTEE MEETING, IT WAS ASKED, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THIS COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO GET THESE OFFERS IN, GET THEM ON THE TABLE AND GET THEM APPROVED PRIOR TO THE NEW COUNCIL BEING SWORN IN? AND THE CEO SAID SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WE GAVE THE LAME DUCK APPROVAL, YES, THAT CAN BE DONE.

THAT'S MY FEAR.

I DON'T WANT TO JAM IT DOWN THE TAXPAYER'S THROAT.

IF THE NEW COUNCIL AND I'VE SAID IT ALONG, THIS IS A ELECTION ISSUE.

IF THE PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GOING TO VOTE IN THE PEOPLE THAT JUST WANT TO SELL THE PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUILD A HOTEL, AND DO NOTHING FOR THE ARTS COMMUNITY FOR THE NEXT HOWEVER MANY YEARS.

THEN THEY CAN DO THAT.

JUST WAIT UNTIL AFTER OCTOBER 24TH AND OR EITHER REMOVE THE LAME DUCK OR DELAY THIS 30 DAYS BEFORE YOU SO THAT THIS COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PROCESS THE CLOSURE OF THIS.

THAT'S MY CONCERN, IS WHEN I'M BEING TOLD ONE THING AND THESE ARE FACTS, YOU CAN WATCH THE GO BACK AND WATCH THE VIDEO.

THOSE WORDS WERE SAID.

SO I ONLY WANT THE TAXPAYERS TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY AND TELL US WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO.

SO IF YOU DELAY THIS BY 30 DAYS, IT TAKES THE LAME DUCK PERIOD OUT.

IT ALLOWS THE TAXPAYERS TO SAY, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO SELL THAT LAND.

WE WANT TO KEEP OUR THEATER WELCOME, CENTER AND MUSEUM ON THE HIGHWAY WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN.

IF A PROPONENT WANTS TO BUILD A HOTEL, OUR LAND IS THE SAME PRICE NO MATTER WHERE WE PUT IT.

THE COST IS GOING TO BE THE BUILDING COST.

SO DO WE SELL THE LAND AT HIGHWAY 108 TO ANOTHER PROPONENT WHO GETS THE BENEFIT OF A TOTALLY SHOVEL READY PIECE OF PROPERTY? AND WE HAVE TO BURDEN THE TAXPAYERS WITH $1,000,000 TO BLAST ROCK IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE NEW FACILITY AT 151 ONTARIO.

IT'S SIMPLE. I'M JUST ASKING THAT WE DELAY THIS FOR 30 DAYS, OR AT LEAST HAVE THIS COUNCIL SAY WE WILL NOT SIGN THE DOCUMENTATION AND ALLOW THE NEXT COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

MR. DANIEL. JUST A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS THERE.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE SAID IF STAFF IS WILLING, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SKIN IN THIS GAME.

IT'S 100% COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.

YOU TELL US, WHAT DATE DO YOU WANT TO PUT ON HERE? WE'RE NOT MARRIED TO OCTOBER 30TH.

WE JUST PICKED 30 DAYS OF FIELDING OFFERS AS A ROUND NUMBER.

BUT COUNCILLOR PATRIE IS RIGHT.

I DON'T REMEMBER. I'D HAVE TO WATCH THE VIDEO, BUT IF WE HAVE CLEAN OFFERS BY OCTOBER 30TH, WE CAN TAKE THEM TO THE NOVEMBER 14TH LAST COUNCIL MEETING OF THIS COUNCIL AND COUNCIL CAN DIRECT US TO, IF IT'S A CLEAN, SIMPLE OFFER, PROCEED WITH THAT OFFER.

OR BY NOVEMBER 14TH WE'LL HAVE WE'LL KNOW, OF COURSE, WHAT HAPPENED AT THE ELECTION.

AND THIS COUNCIL WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE NEXT COUNCIL WILL LOOK LIKE.

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BUT AGAIN, THIS IS COUNCIL'S DECISION.

JUST PICK A DATE AND DIRECT US AND WE'LL MOVE ACCORDINGLY.

COUNCILLOR CYR. THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

[INAUDIBLE] I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH COUNCILLOR PATRIE HERE.

LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE AT THE ELECTIONS.

LET THEM MAKE THAT CHOICE.

IT'S 30 DAYS BECAUSE HISTORY, THIS COUNCIL'S HISTORY HAS SHOWN THAT IF IT'S IF THE LAND SALE IS POSSIBLE TO BE TO BE DONE BEFORE THE ELECTION, THERE'LL BE A SPECIAL MEETING CALLED AND IT'LL BE PASSED.

AND THIS COUNCIL HAS DONE IT.

HOW MANY TIMES? AND I CAN SHOW YOU THE VIDEOS.

SO LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE.

IT'S 30 DAYS.

THE PEOPLE WILL DECIDE AT THE ELECTIONS.

IF THEY WANT TO SELL IT.

THEY'LL CHOOSE THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO SELL IT.

IF THEY DON'T WANT TO SELL IT, THEY'LL MAKE THE DECISION.

IT'S THE PEOPLE'S LAND.

LET THE CITIZENS DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO KEEP IT OR SELL IT.

THEY HAVE THAT RIGHT.

COUNCILLOR TURNER. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

I THINK WE COULD SOLVE THIS FAIRLY EASILY JUST BY INSTEAD OF OCTOBER 30TH, WE JUST SAY NOVEMBER 15TH.

UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS WHAT I SPOKE OF BEFORE WHEN IT'S DEFERRED TO REFER IT AND GIVE THE NEXT GUYS THE PROBLEM.

THIS BUSINESS ABOUT.

EVERYBODY SPEAKS FOR THE PEOPLE.

I HATE TO TELL YOU, BUT THAT'S OUR JOB.

THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE BIG BUCKS FOR.

THAT'S WHAT WE GOT ELECTED FOR.

AND THE PEOPLE EVERY FOUR YEARS VOTE.

I LIKE THE WAY WE DID IT OR THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY WE DID IT.

THEY LIKE WHERE WE'RE GOING OR THEY WON'T LIKE WHERE WE'RE GOING.

THAT'S WHEN THE PEOPLE SPEAK.

IN THE INTERIM, THERE'S NOBODY HERE WHO SPEAKS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE.

AND JUST THEY ARE THE ONES WHO SPEAK FOR.

IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN.

ALL RIGHT. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS OUR OPINIONS, OUR INTERPRETATION OF WHAT WE'RE HEARING.

AND THAT'S THE BEST WE CAN DO AND THAT'S THE BEST WE CAN EXPECT FROM ANYBODY.

I THINK. THE ONLY OPTION WE HAVE IS TO EXTEND THAT DATE.

TO NOVEMBER 15TH.

ESSENTIALLY HAND THE HOT POTATO TO THE NEXT COUNCIL.

INFER THAT WE LOVE THE IDEA, DEFER TO THEM AND ALLOW THEM TO REFER FOR MORE, STUDY, WHATEVER.

THAT'S. THAT'S NOT MY FAVORITE IDEA.

MY FAVORITE IDEA IS WE HAVE A DATE.

EARN THAT GREAT BIG WHOPPING PAYCHECK THAT WE GET AT THE END OF EVERY MONTH $807 BUCKS, WHATEVER IT IS.

AND MAKE A DECISION.

INCOMING COUNCILS CAN MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS.

OKAY. AND THEY CAN TRUMP OURS.

NO PROBLEM. IN THE INTERIM, THOUGH, LET'S DO WHAT WE GET PAID TO DO, WHICH IS MAKE A DECISION.

MOVE FORWARD. WHAT COMES IN BETWEEN NOW AND THE 30TH OF OCTOBER, MAYBE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN.

AND IT'S ALMOST OFFENSIVE TO THINK THAT, MR. DANIEL. WOULD MISUSE THE POWERS THAT WE GAVE HIM AS WE WENT INTO THE LAME DUCK.

IT'D BE AN ABSOLUTE CAREER LIMITING MOVE.

HE KNOWS THAT.

WE ALL KNOW IT.

AND HE SPOKE OF IT.

THAT, ESSENTIALLY COUNCIL TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, AND I WILL DO IT.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD LEAVE IT.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND FIRST.

THE VOTE'S BEEN CALLED. EVERYONE'S SPOKEN ONCE AS A PROCEDURAL BYLAW.

START WITH COUNCILOR TURNER YOUR WORSHIP, CAN YOU? DO YOU WANT TO READ THE OR HAVE THE MOTION READ BEFORE WE DO IT AGAIN? THAT THE REPORT OF THE MANAGER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO ACCEPT LETTERS OF INTENT ON 255 HIGHWAY 108 UNTIL OCTOBER 30TH, 2022

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COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. IN FAVOR.

COUNCILLOR PEARCE. IN FAVOR.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE. OPPOSED.

COUNCILLOR MANN OPPOSED.

COUNCILLOR CYR OPPOSED.

I'M IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU. 8.3 MEMO FROM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND TREASURY 08-2022 UNAUDITED STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL POSITION COUNCILLOR MANN THIS WAS YOUR COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2022, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THAT THE. THE MEMO OF THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, FINANCIAL SERVICES AND TREASURY OF THE 08-2022 UNAUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL POSITION BE RECEIVED AND BE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL FOR INFORMATION AND I SO MOVE.

SECONDER. COUNCILLOR TURNER THANK YOU.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COUNCILLOR MANN.

OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAND IT OVER TO MS. SONNENBURG? I'LL DO LEAD IN AS I NORMALLY DO, IF THAT'S OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOUR WORSHIP.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE END OF OUR THIRD QUARTER 2022.

THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, TREASURER, IS INDICATING AT THIS POINT WE'RE SITTING AT APPROXIMATELY $220,000 SURPLUS.

WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT NUMBER TO DECREASE SLIGHTLY OVER THE FOLLOWING QUARTER OF THE YEAR.

HOWEVER, WE ARE STILL HOPING I CONSIDER THIS ESSENTIALLY A BALANCED POSITION CONSIDERING THE OVERALL BUDGET THIS YEAR.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET TO OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAD HOPED TO AS WELL AS AS INDICATED ON THE COVER PAGE.

THE ELLIOT LAKE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS CURRENTLY FORECASTING APPROXIMATELY $32,000 SURPLUS AS WELL FOR THE YEAR.

ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS? I WOULD DEFER THOSE TO THE TREASURER.

OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? SEEING NONE THEN I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE, THEN.

ALL IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU. 8.4.

MEMO FROM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND TREASURY 08-2022 VISA ACTIVITY STATEMENTS.

COUNCILLOR MANN ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. WORSHIP AGAIN AT THE SAME REGULAR MEETING OF THE FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2022, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THAT THE VISA STATEMENTS FOR JANUARY 2022 TO JULY 31ST, 2022 BE RECEIVED IN FORWARDED TO COUNCIL FOR INFORMATION AND I SO MOVE.

SECONDER PLEASE, SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER ONCE AGAIN.

ANY NOTABLE THINGS OF INTEREST? COUNCILLOR MANN. TYPICALLY, THIS REPORT, YOUR WORSHIP DOESN'T ACTUALLY COME TO COUNCIL, HOWEVER, BECAUSE IT WAS FOR A SIX MONTH PERIOD AND THE OVERALL VALUE OF ALL CREDIT CARDS WITH THE MUNICIPALITY IS JUST OVER $120,000.

I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SEE THERE IS A LOT OF VOLUME OBVIOUSLY GOING THROUGH, BUT I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO COME FORWARD FOR INFORMATION.

THERE WERE NO IRREGULARITIES NOTED DURING THE DISCUSSION.

CAN YOU THANK YOU KNOW, [INAUDIBLE] PURCHASED AS PER THE ELLIOT LAKE BUZZ RECENTLY? NO. OKAY, GOOD.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU.

WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD FROM YOUR COMMITTEE AND MS. SONNENBURG. THESE ARE VERY SUBSTANTIAL NUMBERS AND I APPRECIATE THEM COMING FORWARD TO COUNCIL SO THAT COUNCIL CAN ACTUALLY GET TO SEE THIS, AS CAN THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THESE. SOME OF THESE CREDIT CARDS ARE $20 TO $30,000 PER MONTH THAT THEY'RE SPENDING INDIVIDUALLY.

SO THE TRANSPARENCY FOR THAT, I THINK, IS PARAMOUNT.

THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAVE BECOMES BASED ON WHAT I SPENT ON THESE CREDIT CARDS AS WELL, AND I'M GOING TO PUT OUR TREASURER ON THE SPOT AND SHE'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

I DON'T NORMALLY DO THAT TO YOU, BUT I'M SORRY.

DO WE KNOW WHEN WE WILL BE RECEIVING FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ON THE DRAG RACES AND ON THE STREET DANCE? THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP. DRAG RACE AND STREET DANCE FINANCIALS ARE SLOWLY, ALMOST ALL TOGETHER.

THERE NEEDS TO BE ONE FINAL REVIEW WITH ALL DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE INVOLVED, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THOSE COME OUT VERY SOON.

AT THIS AT THE TIME OF PREPARING THESE REPORTS, WE DID NOT HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION REQUIRED.

AND TO THAT EXTENT, I HAVE WITHHELD THAT INFORMATION, STATING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORWARD ONE CLEAR, CONCISE REPORT WITH NO AMENDMENTS TO THE AMENDMENT [INAUDIBLE]. ON THE REPORT, ONE REPORT ONLY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN.

THANK YOU. IT IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE BEEN ASKING QUITE REGULARLY SINCE THE PASSING OF THE EVENTS AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE TREASURER'S RESPONSE.

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SO THERE'S STILL THINGS COMING IN, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATELY SURPRISING CONSIDERING THESE PEOPLE DO WANT TO BE PAID.

BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE HAVING IT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

AND THE OTHER PIECE ABOUT THE VISAS AS WELL, A LOT OF THE FUNDS GO THROUGH THOSE BECAUSE WE DO RECEIVE A PERCENTAGE BACK TO THE MUNICIPALITY, WHICH AGAIN IS A COST DEFERRAL, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE WITH THIS PARTICULAR PLAN, WHICH WE'VE HAD SINCE.

14 2014-15.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. SEEING NONE.

I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE, ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.

8.5 REPORT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND TREASURY RESERVES.

REPORT AND CAPITAL FORECAST.

COUNCILLOR MANN. ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. WORSHIP AGAIN AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION HELD ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 19TH, THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THAT THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TREASURER REGARDING DISCRETIONARY RESERVES REPORT AND CAPITAL FORECAST BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL APPROVE A TRANSFER IN THE AMOUNT OF $1.5 MILLION FROM WORKING FUNDS RESERVE TO THE DISCRETIONARY RESERVES FUND.

$1,332,904 TO THE BUILDING AND FACILITIES RESERVE AND $167,096 TO THE COMMUNITY HUB RESERVE AND THAT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE CONSIDER THE STATE OF RESERVES WHEN CONSIDERING MUNICIPAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE RESERVES IN 2023.

OPERATING BUDGET AND I SO MOVE, SECONDER.

COUNCILLOR PEARCE. THANK YOU.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOUR WORSHIP.

ANNUAL TRANSFER FROM WORKING RESERVES INTO DISCRETIONARY RESERVES.

TYPICALLY, THE ENTIRE AMOUNT WOULD GO TO DISCRETIONARY RESERVES.

UNFORTUNATELY, THIS YEAR, AS THE COMMUNITY HUB RESERVE HAD BEEN OVERSPENT, WE NEED TO DO A SUBSEQUENT TRANSFER OF 167 INTO THAT RESERVE TO NET IT OUT TO ZERO.

THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION REGARDING THE STATE OF OUR RESERVES AT THE MEETING AND I BELIEVE IT WAS MENTIONED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE OF CONCERN MOVING FORWARD.

THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT THAT OBVIOUSLY ALL COUNCIL HAS BEEN DEALING WITH FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

WE HAD THE FORTUNE OF HAVING A LARGER SURPLUS LAST YEAR TRANSFERRED TO THIS YEAR.

HOWEVER, WE WILL NOT HAVE THE SAME BENEFIT NEXT YEAR.

ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AGAIN ON THE RESERVE STATE? I WOULD DEFER TO THE TREASURER OTHER THAN SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WE STILL AS A MUNICIPALITY ARE IN BETTER SHAPE THAN WE HAVE BEEN.

HOWEVER, WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN.

WE DEFINITELY HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT IN RESERVES, BUT HAS BEEN MADE VERY CLEAR BY THE TREASURER THROUGH BUDGET PROCESS COMING INTO THIS YEAR AND AGAIN RECENTLY THAT WITH OUR OUR PLANNED INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS, EITHER WE NEED TO SLOW THE ROLL IN REPLACING INFRASTRUCTURE OR LOOK AT INCREASING WHAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO THE RESERVES TO DO SO.

AND IT'S VERY WELL LAID OUT HERE.

I'M ACTUALLY GLAD TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE GALLERY THIS EVENING BECAUSE I SAID, WHY? WHY DOESN'T ANYBODY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON FINANCIALLY WITH THE CITY? ALL OUR BUDGET MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

THEY'RE ALL WEB STREAM, THEY'RE ALL TELECAST, AND THEY'RE ARCHIVED.

AND OUR WE'RE AS TRANSPARENT AS YOU CAN BE.

ANY MORE TRANSPARENT I THINK WE'D BE INVISIBLE BEING HONEST.

IT'S WHAT WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE INTERESTED IN READING THIS THIS MATERIAL AND BEING INVOLVED IN IN THE PROCESSES.

AND TONIGHT, WE'VE SEEN THAT DEMOCRACY.

WE'VE SEEN PEOPLE COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

WE'VE SEEN MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN ASKING QUESTIONS, MAKING STATEMENTS.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT.

COUNCIL HAS NOTHING TO HIDE IN THIS.

THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE FINANCIALLY, PROBABLY EVERY YEAR FOR EVERY COUNCIL AND EVERY BUDGET COMMITTEE.

UNLESS YOU HAVE HYDRO GIVING YOU $20 MILLION AS A GIFT EVERY YEAR, YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO TAKE THE MONEY YOU HAVE COMING IN AND HOW TO BEST SPEND IT REPRESENTING THE MUNICIPALITY.

INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES, OPERATIONS.

I'VE HEARD SILLY COMMENTS BEING MADE RECENTLY THAT THE CITY'S GOT $26 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN RESERVE.

WHY DON'T WE JUST TAKE $22 MILLION AND BUILD THAT ARTS HUB DOWNTOWN? THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS.

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IF THERE'S MONEY IN A TRANSIT RESERVE, IT'S FOR TRANSIT ONLY.

IT CAN'T BE PUT ANYWHERE ELSE.

WE GET SENIOR GOVERNMENT FUNDING THAT GOES IN THESE ACCOUNTS, LANDFILL RESERVE, 100% FOR LANDFILL, NOTHING ELSE.

SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY CONSCIOUS AS MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WHERE THESE PURSES OF MONEY ARE AND HOW TO SPEND THEM, WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.

THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT THAT, COUNCILLOR CYR.

YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU. I GUESS MY MY QUESTION KIND OF RELATES INDIRECTLY TO RESERVES THIS PAST YEAR.

I MEAN, WE'VE HAD AN INCREDIBLE AND UNFORTUNATE PAYMENTS THROUGH OUR INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER.

PAYMENTS THROUGH THE YEAR.

WERE THOSE BUDGETED ITEMS OR WERE THOSE TAKEN OUT OF RESERVES? I DON'T RECALL IF IT WERE IF OUR LARGE AMOUNTS WERE PAID OUT OF STRAIGHT OUT OF RESERVES OR DID WE ACTUALLY BUDGET SOMEWHAT.

MR. GAGNON. MS. SONNENBURG.

THROUGH YOU YOUR WORSHIP. COUNCILLOR CYR.

IF YOU RECALL MANY OF THE PREVIOUS STATEMENTS OF FINANCIAL POSITION THAT HAVE COME ON A MONTHLY BASIS THROUGH [INAUDIBLE], AND THEN I BELIEVE ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN CYCLED BACK THROUGH COUNCIL.

WE TALKED EXTENSIVELY ABOUT HOW THE CITY WAS OVERBUDGET ON THEIR LEGAL FEES.

THAT IS WHERE ANY INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER COSTS WOULD HAVE BEEN PUT TO.

THEY HAVE BEEN ABSORBED OPERATIONALLY YEAR OVER YEAR THROUGH THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET AND WOULD HAVE REDUCED THE SURPLUSES IN THOSE YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD HISTORICAL SURPLUS. SO THOSE WOULD HAVE NOT HAVE WENT THROUGH THE RESERVES, THEY WOULD HAVE WENT THROUGH THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET AND LUCKILY WE HAD ENOUGH OVERAGE AND SURPLUS THROUGH ESPECIALLY THROUGH COVID INTO THE MUNICIPALITY THAT HAS ABSORBED THOSE COSTS.

BUT NO, THOSE WERE ALL PART AND PARCEL OF THOSE OVERAGES THAT I SPOKE OF RECENT FREQUENTLY.

SORRY, IN THE LEGAL LINES.

OK COUNCILLOR PEARCE, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU AND THANK YOU, MS. SONNENBURG. AS I MENTIONED AT THE COMMITTEE, IT'S A VERY, VERY THOROUGH REPORT.

IT MAKES SURE THAT WE ALL HAVE A VERY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.

AS I AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, MY CONCERN HERE IS THAT WE ARE TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE DISCRETIONARY RESERVE FUND, THAT'S MONEY THAT WE NEED IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY.

THAT'S THE MONEY THAT WE NEED.

IF ALL OF A SUDDEN, GOD FORBID, ANOTHER ROOF FALLS IN OR WE GET 20 CENTIMETERS OF SNOW IN THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER THAT WE HAVEN'T PLANNED ON.

SO WHEN WE'RE TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS AND WE'RE PUTTING IT INTO FACILITIES, RESERVES AND OTHER RESERVES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY EARMARKED, THEN WE'RE TAKING AWAY MONEY THAT WE NEED FOR OPERATING THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE.

AS I SAID, THAT'S ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAKES ME VERY, VERY CONCERNED.

AND I DON'T WANT TO BE MISUNDERSTOOD WHEN I'M TALKING TO WHOEVER GETS ON THE NEW COUNCIL.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT IT VERY, VERY CAREFULLY.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THE JOB THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED THAT WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN CUT BACK ON ON WHATEVER WE WANT TO BUILD OR FIX OR REPAIR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S AN OPTION.

THE OTHER OPTION IS YOU MAKE SURE YOU GOT THE MONEY IN THE BANK AND YOU PUT THE MONEY IN THE BANK BY RAISING TAXES.

IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS.

YOU RAISE TAXES OR YOU CAN CUT SERVICES AND YOU CAN CUT OPERATIONAL FUNDS.

THAT'S ALL YOU CAN DO. SAME THING THAT WAS DONE IN 2010.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.

IT IS SCARY. IT WAS 2009.

[INAUDIBLE]. ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND IT WAS GREAT. I APPRECIATE IT.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE. THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE FACT THAT, YEAH, EITHER WE RAISE TAXES OR WE SLOW OUR SPENDING.

I'M REALLY PLEASED THAT THE NEWSPAPER HAS FINALLY PICKED UP ON THESE COMMENTS.

OUR TREASURER HAS BEEN SAYING THAT SINCE THE DAY SHE WAS HIRED.

IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVE TO RAISE TAXES.

OUR RESERVES HAVE BEEN GOING UP EVERY YEAR AND AND MOVING THEM FROM DISCRETION, FROM WORKING TO DISCRETIONARY WORKING TO BUILDING.

IT DOESN'T MATTER. WE CAN MOVE ANY OF THOSE FUNDS ANY TIME WE WANT.

OTHER THAN THE SPECIFICS, THE LANDFILL STUFF.

AND THERE'S PROBABLY A COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLARS OF THIS $28 MILLION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR THAT WE CANNOT SPEND, PERIOD.

BUT WE'VE GOT $25 TO $26 MILLION IN RESERVE THAT WE CAN SPEND.

I AGREE 100% WITH WHAT OUR TREASURER SAYS.

SLOW YOUR SPENDING.

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THAT'S NOT THE PROPER WAY TO DO IT.

YOU CAN'T SPEND MORE THAN YOU'RE GETTING.

IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN YOUR PERSONAL FINANCES.

YOU CAN'T SPEND MORE THAN YOUR PAYCHECK AND THEN GO TO YOUR BOSS AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I NEED A RAISE BECAUSE I SPENT MORE MONEY THAN I MAKE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO PLAN ON SPENDING THE MONEY TOO FAST AND TELLING THE TAXPAYER THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY MORE TAXES.

IT'S VERY SIMPLE.

WE'RE INCREASING THE RESERVES EVERY YEAR.

WE JUST CAN'T SPEND $20 MILLION IN A TWO YEAR CYCLE.

IT'S NOT HARD TO DO.

WE JUST HAVE TO, ESPECIALLY THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

A LOT OF THIS IS WORK THAT WE PLAN TO DO AND DIDN'T DO.

SO WE'VE ACTUALLY INCREASED THE RESERVE BUDGETS BECAUSE THE STUFF THAT WE BUDGETED AND ALL THE MONEY HAS JUST GONE TO RESERVE.

BUT JUST BECAUSE WE PLAN TO DO SOMETHING, PUT IT ON THE TAX ROLL, AND THEN WE DIDN'T DO THAT.

WE DON'T PLAN ON SPENDING IT ON SOMETHING ELSE.

YOU JUST GOT TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

I AGREE 100% WITH WHAT OUR TREASURER SAYS, AND I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE NEWSPAPER WASN'T MORE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WORD TO USE, BUT I WISH THEY'D HAVE BROUGHT THAT OUT MORE IN THEIR REPORT SAYING, JUST REMEMBER, IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVE TO RAISE TAXES.

WE CAN SPEND IT AT A SLOWER PACE, GET THE WORK DONE THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE.

AND IT'S NOT A MATTER OF HAVING TO RAISE TAXES BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT OUR TREASURY IS TELLING US WE HAVE TO DO.

SHE'S TELLING US WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS.

IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SPEND LIKE THIS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO RAISE TAXES BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE OPERATING MONEY.

SO I JUST I JUST WISH THAT THE DIALOG WOULD BE CONCISE, THAT WHEN OUR TREASURER IS TELLING US IT'S TWO OPTIONS, EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE DOESN'T JUST SIT HERE AND SAY, YEAH, WE HAVE TO RAISE TAXES BECAUSE THE TREASURER TOLD US WE'VE GOT TO RAISE TAXES.

NO, THE TREASURER HAS GIVEN US TWO OPTIONS.

LET'S JUST REMEMBER THAT THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS ON THE TABLE.

COUNCILLOR TURNER. JUST WANT TO GIVE SOME CLARITY HERE.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LIVING BEYOND OUR PAYCHECK.

THE RESERVES ARE OUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT.

THIS IS MONEY THAT WE'VE BEEN PACKING AWAY FOR PROJECTS AND PURCHASES ALREADY APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

OKAY. SO THE IDEA OF SLOWING OUR SPENDING.

WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TAKING ITEMS ALREADY APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

AND EITHER DELAYING THEM FOR YEARS OR CANCELING THEM PERIOD.

THAT'S HOW OUR RESERVES ARE AFFECTED.

THIS IS NOT THE PAYCHECK.

THIS IS THE SAVINGS ACCOUNT.

WE PUT THE MILLION DOLLARS IN THERE TO BUY PRODUCT A OR B SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SNOW CLEARED, REMOVED, WHATEVER ROADS PAVED. THIS IS WHAT WE PUT MONEY IN RESERVES FOR.

IF WE DECIDE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BUY SOMETHING OR WE DON'T WANT TO PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT.

NOW WE HAVE EXTRA MONEY IN OUR RESERVES, BUT THERE'S NOT MUCH OF THAT.

I THINK IT'S UP TO EVERY COUNCIL, AT EVERY BUDGET MEETING TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ENOUGH IN RESERVES.

AND EVERY MUNICIPALITY WRESTLES WITH THIS EVERY YEAR, HOW MUCH MONEY TO PUT AWAY FOR FUTURE PROJECTS AND FOR THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO SEE GET DONE. RIGHT.

THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY GOES.

IT'S THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS WERE DOING VERY GOOD.

THERE'S A SMALL PROJECTED SURPLUS THAT I BELIEVE THE TREASURER SAID WOULD PROBABLY BE EATEN BY THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH BREAKEVEN AND THAT'S WHAT GOOD BUDGETING ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL HAS RESULTED IN.

NOTHING LEFT OVER, BUT NOTHING SHORT.

AND WE PUT MONEY INTO RESERVES, SO.

THE SKY IS NOT FALLING.

WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD THANK YOU.

COUNCILLOR CYR. THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I JUST LIKE TO ADD TO THAT CLARITY.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR CURRENT MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, BUT MOST IMPORTANT FUTURE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO REMEMBER THAT RESERVES ARE TAXPAYERS MONIES.

SO YOU'RE YOU'RE TAKING THE MONEY FROM TAXPAYERS BANK ACCOUNTS TO STICK INTO THE CITY'S BANK ACCOUNT.

SO I THINK THE TAXPAYER SHOULD BE REMEMBERED IN THAT EQUATION SO THAT COUNCILS DO SPEND THAT MONEY WISELY AND FOR WHAT'S NEEDED, NOT FOR JUST EVERYONE.

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COUNCILLOR PEARCE. THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I AM VERY PLEASED THAT COUNCILLOR PATRIE AGREES WITH THE COMMENTS OF THE TREASURER, BUT I WOULD REMIND HIM THAT THE TREASURER ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED A 6.5% INCREASE IN TAXES JUST SO THAT WE COULD MAINTAIN THE SERVICES AT THE LEVEL THAT WE WERE AT.

AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, FOR A LOT OF REASONS, AND I THINK MOST OF THEM ARE FAIRLY GOOD.

COUNCIL DIDN'T AGREE TO THAT, BUT SHE DOESN'T ALWAYS JUST SAY SLOW DOWN SPENDING.

SHE ALSO SAID INCREASE THE TAXES.

COUNCILLOR MANN. THANK YOU.

I THINK WE'VE TALKED MORE ABOUT RESERVES TONIGHT THAN WE DID THROUGH THE ENTIRE BUDGET PROCESS, WHICH IS NICE TO HEAR, BUT IN SOME WAYS UNFORTUNATE, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER BUDGET MEETING BECAUSE I THINK WE HAD ENOUGH THIS YEAR.

BUT CLEARLY THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WAS A CONCESSION BUDGET IN ORDER TO GET A NUMBER TO ALLOW STAFF TO DO THEIR JOB.

THOUGH I AGREE WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS AROUND THE TABLE.

IT'S YOU KNOW, IT IS A VERY CHALLENGING BALANCING ACT TO HAVE.

A LOT OF THE RESERVES WE HAVE ARE RESTRICTED.

A LOT OF THE WORK WE DO IS THE PREPAYMENT INTO OUR RESERVES FOR THOSE THINGS.

SO WE BUDGET OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD SO THAT WHEN MR. HALLOCH NEEDS ANOTHER TRI AXLE OR A TANDEM WITH A PLOW, WE HAVE THE $285,000 TO ENSURE THAT OUR STREETS GET PLOWED IN THE WINTER, WHICH AGAIN IS IMPORTANT TO MOST OF THE RESIDENTS.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE RESERVES.

YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A FEW THAT WE CAN MOVE AROUND, BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT REALLY RECOMMENDED.

AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS TONIGHT.

IT'S NOT AN EASY PROCESS.

AND AGAIN, THIS YEAR WE ARE AT A BREAK EVEN POINT AND I'M I'M HAPPY WITH THAT MOVING FORWARD.

BUT AGAIN, THE COMMENTS ARE PRETTY CLEAR.

THERE WERE HIGHER RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE REALLY DIDN'T GO WITH THAT.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THOSE THINGS AREN'T COMING DOWN THE ROAD.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR MANN COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP. THANK YOU, MS. SONNENBURG FOR THIS REPORT.

I HEAR YOU. WE DIDN'T ALWAYS DO WHAT YOU ASKED US TO, BUT WE'RE TRYING.

AND I GOT CAUGHT IN ONE OF THE ELECTIONS.

I RAN IN WITH THE QUESTION.

I SAID THAT I UNDERSTAND A LOT MORE ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT IF YOU DON'T FILL THE CRACKS, THEN YOU HAVE TO YOU WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE TO REDO THE WHOLE INFRASTRUCTURE UNDERNEATH WHERE THE CRACKS WEREN'T FILLED.

AND I THINK THAT IN A LOT OF SENSE IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THESE RESERVES AS WELL.

THERE IS A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WERE STOPPED THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO PROCEED WITH FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.

SOME OF IT COVERED, SOME OF IT LABOR, SOME OF IT THE COST OF INFLATION.

WE STILL HAVE TO DO HILLSIDE DRIVE, AND THAT'S STILL A LARGE PORTION OF OF OF THIS BUDGET OF THIS RESERVE, DELAYING IT BECAUSE IT JUMPED FROM $6 MILLION TO $10 MILLION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO JUMP TO NEXT YEAR.

SO WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED.

WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FIX OUR ROADS, KEEP OUR LIGHTS ON, DO WORK ON BUILDINGS THAT WE DO OWN SO THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE CATASTROPHIC DISASTERS. OUR ARENA AND OUR POOL.

THEY'RE NOT IN GREAT SHAPE.

THEY'RE SAFE.

THEY'RE SOUND. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED A LARGE INFLUX OF MONEY IN NEW OR NEW BUILDS.

THAT'S WHAT THE PRIORITY NEEDS TO BE WITH OUR FACILITIES IS TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THOSE SERVICES WITH OUR RESIDENTS IS WHERE WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT SOONER THAN LATER, I BELIEVE, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING.

BUT WE HAVE TO FOR ANYONE ON THIS COUNCIL, WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE FACING, WHAT WE FACED, AND WE TRY TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS AS WE CAN.

BUT JUST BECAUSE WE SAY THERE'S THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE RESERVES DOES NOT MEAN THAT MONEY SITTING THERE FOR US TO PLAY WITH.

STAFF ARE NOT FRIVOLOUS.

THEY DON'T COME FORWARD WITH EXPENDITURES THAT AREN'T NEEDED.

AND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOB, WHETHER IT'S A SNOWPLOW, WHETHER IT'S LIGHTING IN A BUILDING, WHATEVER IT IS, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO LIGHTS ON THE HIGHWAY TO MAKE OUR CITIZENS SAFE.

WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT RESPONSIBLY.

AND NOW THAT WE'RE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUDGET AND WE'RE NOT A BUDGET MEETING, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MAYBE WHOEVER ENDS UP BEING THE BUDGET CHAIR FOR THE NEXT YEAR THAT WE ACTUALLY SET ASIDE A DATE AS PART OF THE BUDGET FOR PUBLIC INPUT, WHETHER IT'S A TOWN HALL MEETING.

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WE NEED THE INPUT DURING THE PROCESS.

SO I REALLY HOPE THAT PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION AND COME FORWARD.

WE ALWAYS HAVE WELCOMED PEOPLE TO THE FIRST YEARS I WAS ON COUNCIL.

WE USED TO HAVE PEOPLE COME ALL THE TIME TO BUDGET AND DO PRESENTATIONS.

THE LAST FEW YEARS WE'VE HAD NO ONE.

I KNOW COVID HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THAT AND SOME OF OUR BUDGET PROCESSES WERE DONE OVER ZOOM.

BUT I'M HOPING MOVING FORWARD THAT YOU HAVE A VOICE.

PLEASE USE IT AND USE IT WHEN WHEN WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, NOT AFTER THE FACT.

BECAUSE AFTER THE FACT, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF LEEWAY OF WHAT TO DO.

WE CAN'T CHANGE.

WE CAN'T DECIDE HALFWAY THROUGH THE BUDGET YEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO UP TO 6% BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE ALL THESE NEEDS AND ALL THESE WANTS.

WE HAVE TO STICK WITH THE BUDGET THAT THAT WE PASSED AND WE HAVE TO DO THE BEST OF IT.

SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GET INVOLVED DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.

ANY IDEA YOU HAVE.

WE WANT TO HEAR IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN EASY PROCESS TO TRY TO BRING FORWARD A BUDGET THAT'S BALANCED, RESPONSIBLE AND EQUITABLE FOR ALL.

AND ALL GOOD CONVERSATION.

I THINK AS AS YOU MENTIONED, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE, YEAH, OUR COUNCIL ACTUALLY USED TO HAVE THAT OPEN BUDGET MEETING.

THAT WAS AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE FOR THE COMMUNITY WITH A BREAKDOWN OF, YOU KNOW, THE PIE CHARTS AND WHERE THE MONEY GOES TO AND HOW EVERYTHING WORKS. AND WE ALSO USED TO HAVE THOSE THE LIBRARY COME AND PRESENT THEIR BUDGET, THE RENT CENTER, THE HOCKEY TEAM SINCE COVID, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT.

AND THIS YEAR WITH THE OPEN OPPORTUNITY, A LOT, A LOT DIDN'T COME BACK TO THE TABLE UNFORTUNATELY.

I THINK ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT KICKED EVERYONE IN THE FACE HERE IS THE UNFORTUNATE INFLATION RATES THROUGH COVID.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO POINT OUT, JUST FROM MY TIME ON COUNCIL, FROM THE TIME WE STARTED DOING HIRSCHHORN THEN GOING TO WESTVIEW VALLEY HEMLOCK PINE POPULAR. THE COST OF DOING THESE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS HAS TRIPLED, TRIPLED.

SO WHEN YOU CREATE A LONG TERM PLAN BASED ON INFLATION RATES AND THE PRICE ACTUALLY GOES UP BY 300%, NOT 6%, NOT 7%, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANYBODY TO SEE.

YOU DON'T HAVE THAT CRYSTAL BALL.

OUR INSURANCE GOING UP BY 30% LAST YEAR AND WHAT? ANOTHER 14 THIS YEAR.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT JUST WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.

SO WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO HAVE A BUDGET THAT SUITS THE COMMUNITY AND THERE IS NOTHING FRIVOLOUS THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS DONE, WE'RE JUST BEING KICKED IN THE TEETH OVER AND OVER AGAIN WITH THESE INFLATION RATES.

SO AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR A NEW COUNCIL COMING IN.

SOME OF US MIGHT NOT BE HERE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFICULT GOAL WITH THESE THINGS IN YOUR MIND.

SO IF YOU'RE RUNNING FOR COUNCIL, KEEP THESE THINGS IN YOUR MIND.

THERE'S UNCONTROLLABLE FACTORS THERE AND IT IS YOUR JOB TO WORK AS A TEAM TO TRY AND UTILIZE THAT MONEY IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE OVERALL COMMUNITY.

SO REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION.

THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR THAT.

I'M GOING TO CALL FOR THE VOTE ON THIS REPORT.

ALL IN FAVOR THAT IS CARRIED.

THANK YOU. OKAY A REPORT OF THE HUMAN RESOURCES COORDINATOR RE ELECTRONIC MONITORING POLICY COUNCILLOR MANN.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP. THE FINAL PIECE OF BUSINESS FROM THE REGULAR MEETING OF FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION HELD ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2022.

THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATION WAS PASSED THAT THE REPORT OF THE HUMAN RESOURCE COORDINATOR RE ELECTRONIC MONITORING POLICY BE RECEIVED AND THAT COUNCIL ADOPT THE ATTACHED ELECTRONIC MONITORING POLICY AND THAT THE APPROPRIATE BYLAW BE PASSED TO IMPLEMENT THE POLICY.

AND I SO MOVE. SECONDER.

COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COUNCILLOR MANN.

OR DO WE WANT TO HAND IT OVER TO MS. CROSKERY. DEFER ONCE IF THERE IS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

THIS IS ANOTHER GIFT FROM THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO PURSUANT TO BILL 188 WORKING FOR WORKERS ACT OF 2022, EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 11TH, 2022.

EMPLOYERS THAT EMPLOY MORE THAN 25 OR MORE EMPLOYEES AS OF JANUARY 1ST OF THAT YEAR ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A WRITTEN POLICY ON ELECTRONIC MONITORING OF SET EMPLOYEES IN THE WORKPLACE.

ESSENTIALLY, THE MUNICIPALITY COVERS OFF A LOT OF THE MONITORING THROUGH OTHER POLICIES.

HOWEVER, THIS IS MORE OF A CATCH ALL POLICY.

AGAIN, SPECIFIC TO EMAIL, VIDEO SURVEILLANCE, PARKING LOT AREAS AND THINGS LIKE MAGNETIC CARD ACCESS TO DOORS.

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THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN. I LOVE HOW THIS IS CALLED WORKING FOR WORKERS ACT, FOLLOWED BY SPY ON EVERYBODY.

THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. I HAVE NO NO QUESTIONS.

IT'S VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

WE ALREADY HAVE POLICIES IN PLACE AND THIS IS KIND OF ENCOMPASSING ALL THOSE POLICIES INTO ONE SHORT LETTER.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, MRS. CROSKERY [LAUGHTER]. I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.

OUTSIDE BOARD AND COMMITTEE REPORTS, THERE ARE NONE.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS 10.1 ARTS AND CULTURE HUB UPDATE STANDING ITEM MR.

[10. UNFINISHED BUSINESS]

AND WE CONTINUE TO SOURCE THE NOHFC TO COME TO THE TABLE WHICH WOULD HOPEFULLY LEAVE MORE IN THE RESERVE FOR FUTURE ARTS AND CULTURE CONSIDERATIONS.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? OK 10.2.

NO UPDATE. NO. 10.3 THERE IS NONE CARRY ON PETITIONS.

THERE ARE NONE. CORRESPONDENTS NONE.

NOTICE A MOTION 13.1 NOTICE OF MOTION AT COUNCILLOR PEARCE REQUEST FOR COST OF INTEGRITY, COMMISSIONER, INVESTIGATIONS, LAW FIRMS AND OTHER COSTS

[13. NOTICES OF MOTION]

DURING THIS TERM OF COUNCIL, I'LL LET YOU READ YOUR NOTICE OF MOTION.

COUNCILLOR PEARSON.

LET'S SEE WHAT IT SAYS.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

WHEREAS OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE HAS HAD NUMEROUS INQUIRIES, INVESTIGATIONS AND CHARGES BROUGHT AGAINST SITTING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FOR BREACHING COUNCIL'S CODE OF CONDUCT AND OR THE MUNICIPAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST ACT.

AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF ELLIOT LAKE HAS PAID OUT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PAY FOR THE SUBSEQUENT INVESTIGATIONS AND COURT PROCEEDINGS.

AND WHEREAS, INCORRECT OR EXAGGERATED INFORMATION IS BEING DISSEMINATED IN PUBLIC FORUMS. AND WHEREAS, IT IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO KNOW THE REAL COST INVOLVED IN EACH OF THESE CASES, AND SO BE BETTER INFORMED AS TO IMPACT THESE CASES THAT HAVE HAD THE IMPACT THESE CASES HAVE HAD ON THE FINANCES OF THE CITY AND THEIR IMPLICATIONS GOING FORWARD.

IT'S HEREBY RESOLVED THAT STAFF BE DIRECTED TO BRING A FULSOME REPORT TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING DETAILING THE COSTS FOR THE VARIOUS INTEGRITY COMMISSIONERS, THEIR INVESTIGATIONS, THE COSTS FOR THE LAW FIRMS INVOLVED, AND ANY OTHER COSTS ASSOCIATED ASSOCIATED WITH THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER'S REGIMES DURING THE LIFE OF THIS COUNCIL AND I SO MOVE. IS THERE A SECONDER? I SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.

SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PATRIE FOR DISCUSSION.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COUNCILLOR PEARCE TO ADD TO OUR GLORY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'M SURE THAT EVERYBODY AT THIS TABLE WILL AGREE ON IS THAT EPHRAIM WAS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE WORST INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER WE COULD HAVE CHOSEN.

CERTAINLY BASED ON THE CORRESPONDENCE I HAVE RECEIVED FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AROUND NORTHERN ONTARIO, THEY HAVE INSTITUTED A PATH OF CHAOS AND DESTRUCTION WHEREVER THEY HAVE GONE. THIS MOTION IS NOT ABOUT [INAUDIBLE], BUT IT CERTAINLY BECAUSE OF [INAUDIBLE].

THEIR ACTIONS DERAILED OUR COUNCIL FROM ACHIEVING THE GOALS WE HAD SET FOR OURSELVES AND OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THE COST HAS RUN INTO THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT THERE IS NO DOUBT.

I'M NOT EXCUSING MYSELF OR ANYONE ELSE INVOLVED IN THESE CASES.

I RECOGNIZE THAT MY NAME WILL BE FOREVER ATTACHED TO THE ACTIONS OF [INAUDIBLE] AND THE COST THEY HAVE INFLICTED ON OUR COMMUNITY, AS WILL OTHERS.

HOWEVER, STATEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE DURING THE CURRENT ELECTION CAMPAIGN.

BUT THE COST OF THESE INVESTIGATIONS THAT ARE NOTHING MORE THAN PURE SPECULATION, THEY ARE UNFAIR TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AND ESPECIALLY UNFAIR TO THE VOTERS WHO ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHO TO VOTE FOR.

WHAT IS ALSO CONCERNING IS THE FACT THAT ALTHOUGH I'M ASKING FOR THE COST TO THIS DATE, THIS WILL ONLY BE A SNAPSHOT IN TIME.

THE COSTS HAVE NOT AND WILL NOT STOP THERE.

IF I CAN GET THIS THING TURNED.

BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL SAW FIT NOT TO PAY ME THE MONIES ALLOTTED TO ME BY THE COURTS, I'VE BEEN FORCED TO SUE THE CITY AS WELL AS THE OTHER PARTIES INVOLVED TO OBTAIN WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY MINE. MY CASE WILL THEREFORE CONTINUE TO COST THE CITY MONEY AND IT ALREADY HAS.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE CASE HAS NOT YET BEEN DECIDED BY THE COURTS.

IF HE LOSES, I'M SURE HE WILL WANT TO APPEAL.

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AND IF HE WINS, THE CITY WILL BE ON THE HOOK FOR ALL OF HIS EXPENSES, WHICH I'M SURE RUN INTO THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

POINT OF ORDER. WHAT'S THE POINT OF ORDER? COUNCILLOR PATRIE. NAMING PEOPLE'S NAMES.

THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

IF IT'S TO DEAL WITH THE NOTICE OF MOTION, IT'S TO DEAL WITH THE NOTICE OF MOTION.

IT IS THE NOTICE OF MOTION COUNCILLOR NOTICE OF MOTION IS A NOTICE OF MOTION.

[INAUDIBLE] COUNCILLOR.

I'M DEFENDING YOU WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM? I'D NORMALLY GIVE A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, BUT ALL ALL THIS INFORMATION IS IS PUBLIC AND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT AND IF YOU IF YOU DO LOSE, I'M SURE THAT YOU WILL APPEAL. AND THAT WILL ALSO COST THE CITY MONEY.

IS THAT THE END OF THE REPORT COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

IT IS. IT IS. OK.

SO WE HAVE A FEW WILLING TO WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS.

AND ONE OF THE ONE OF THE OVERALL COSTS THAT YOU HAVEN'T MENTIONED, COUNCILLOR PEARCE, IS THE COST TO THE PERSONS THEMSELVES.

YOU CAN TALK ABOUT STRESS, HEALTH, REPUTATION.

IT'S FAR, FAR BEYOND FINANCE.

AND SO THE THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF CODES OF CONDUCT AND INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER IS NOT WAS NOT MEANT TO DRAG ON A PROCESS MAKING A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS OR MORE ON EACH CASE.

IT WAS TO CORRECT BEHAVIOR QUICKLY FOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR WORK TOGETHER.

AND THIS HAS NOT BEEN THE CASE WITH, AS YOU MENTIONED, [INAUDIBLE] UNFORTUNATELY.

SO I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE FLOOR. COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP. I'M NOT GOING TO DELAY THIS.

IN MY OPINION, AND I MENTIONED IT TO THE CLERK, THIS IS RECONSIDERATION.

I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD TO THIS COUNCIL AND THIS COUNCIL TOLD ME NO.

OUR CEO SAID, IF YOU CAN GET FOUR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT CAN BRING YOU THAT ARE WILLING TO SAY THAT YOU GUYS CAN SEE THIS, THEN YOU CAN SEE IT.

NOW IT'S COMING BACK.

IT'S NO DIFFERENT.

IT'S A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION BECAUSE THE COSTS ARE EXTREMELY, MUCH HIGHER.

BUT I ACTUALLY ASKED FOR THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND THAT'S WHY I'M SECONDING THIS.

COUNCILLOR PEARCE I AGREE [INAUDIBLE] IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE MAJORITY OF MUNICIPALITIES.

THEY'RE COSTING PEOPLE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND SMALL COMMUNITIES THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT.

WE CAN'T AFFORD IT. OUR TAXPAYERS CAN'T AFFORD IT.

BUT I'VE ASKED FOR THIS INFORMATION AND WAS TOLD NO.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY RECONSIDERATION, BUT THERE MAY BE AND BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE MADE IN THERE, YOU'VE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WHICH WOULD TAKE THAT RECONSIDERATION OFF THE TABLE, WHICH I'M FINE WITH.

I WANT TO SEE THIS.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THIS COST WAS, BECAUSE THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF IMPLICATIONS THAT COME WITH THOSE COSTS, AS HIS WORSHIP SAID.

YOU AND I BOTH HAVE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE LEGAL FEES.

MINE, MUCH MORE THAN YOURS, TOOK ME YEARS TO GET FORWARD ON THIS.

AND YES, I STILL DON'T HAVE A RESPONSE.

AND MY LAWYER HAS TOLD ME WHY I DON'T HAVE A RESPONSE AND I WILL BE MAKING COMMENTS TO THAT PUBLICLY.

BUT THAT'S NOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS COUNCIL.

THE TAXPAYERS.

WHEN COUNCIL ASKS FOR SOMETHING AND CERTAIN MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND A CEO SAY, NO, YOU CAN'T SEE THIS INFORMATION.

I TOTALLY DISAGREE.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE KEEPERS OF THE KEYS.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR AND MAKE SURE THINGS ARE RIGHT.

WE'VE ALL SIGNED AN OATH OF CONFIDENTIALITY.

STAFF'S ALLOWED TO SEE THE INFORMATION, AND COUNCIL IS NOT.

I TOTALLY DON'T AGREE.

NOW, IF STAFF DOES BRING A REPORT FORWARD LIVE AT COUNCIL, THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE AN AWFUL LOT OF INFORMATION REMOVED BECAUSE THE CEO DIDN'T WANT US TO SEE IT BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT'S IN THE DOCUMENTATION.

SO IT'S.

IT'S FINE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT STAFF IS GOING TO BRING FORWARD.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN BRING IT FORWARD THAT FAST BASED ON THERE'S FOUR YEARS WORTH OF INFORMATION FOR THEM TO DIG UP.

AND IT ISN'T JUST THE FORM.

IT IS. THERE'S SUBSTANTIAL, SUBSTANTIAL FEES, COSTS AND MULTIPLE LAWYERS ACROSS THE BOARD.

SO THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT FOR THEM TO BRING FORWARD.

SO I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS, BUT.

I JUST FIND IT DISHEARTENING THAT IT COMES FORWARD AS A REQUEST THAT WAS SHOT DOWN BEFORE AND IT'S COMING BACK AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO GET APPROVED.

BUT BECAUSE I ASKED FOR IT THE FIRST TIME, I WAS TOLD I COULDN'T HAVE IT.

AND NOW IF COUNCIL SAYS WE CAN DO IT, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

MR. DANIEL I THINK IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT WELL, YEAH, I'D BE QUITE HAPPY TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE VIDEOS.

MY RECOLLECTION WAS COUNCILLOR PATRIE WANTED TO SEE THE INVOICES FROM THE LEGAL FIRMS AND MY LEGAL OPINION WAS NO, THOSE ARE PRIVILEGED UNDER CLIENT SOLICITOR PRIVILEGE.

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THE LAWYER ALSO HAS SOME STAKE IN THE LEGAL BILLS.

WHAT COUNCILLOR PEARCE IS ASKING FOR IS AN AGGREGATE LEGAL FIRM COURT CASE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER AT THE TIME IT'S AGGREGATED.

IT'S ONLY NUMBERS. THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.

IF THAT'S HOW COUNCILLOR PATRIE HAD ASKED FOR IT, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN GRANTED IT WITHOUT ANY QUESTION.

WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT NUMBERS AND IT'S ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION.

THE INVOICES AS WE'VE COME TO LEARN ARE PART OF CLIENTS LIST PRIVILEGE AND PROTECTED AND WOULD REQUIRE AN FOI REQUEST WHICH WOULD GO TO COUNCIL.

AND THEN WE WOULD NEED TO GET LAWYERS INVOLVED AND THAT WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE.

IT WOULD JUST ADD TO THE BOTTOM LINE.

SO THAT'S WHY AT THE TIME, THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION AS TO WHY COUNCILLOR PATRIE HIS REQUEST WAS DENIED BECAUSE IT WASN'T MY REQUEST TO DENY.

IT WAS THE LAWYERS AND COUNSEL'S CLIENT'S LESSER PRIVILEGE.

BUT I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT VIDEO AND SEE WHAT'S WHAT.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS COUNCILLOR PEARCE'S IS AGGREGATED RELATIVELY CLOSE TO WHAT WE'RE ALREADY TRACKING ANYWAY AND SHOULDN'T BE AN ONEROUS EXERCISE TO PULL THE DATA IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS.

OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR CYR.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

BECAUSE OF THE EXCEPTIONAL COSTS AND THE EXCEPTIONAL DAMAGES.

THIS IS DONE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND I'M SURE TO OTHER COMMUNITIES.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS ACTUALLY, BECAUSE I THINK THIS SHOULD BE AN ANNUAL REPORT TO COUNCIL.

SO THAT WELL, FOR THIS IS FOR FUTURE COUNCILS, I THINK THE CITIZENS HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S COSTING THEM, AT LEAST IN THE GLOBAL IN THE GLOBAL AMOUNT.

HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING A YEAR.

AND I THINK THAT INFORMATION SHOULD BE UNDER ON THE CITY WEBSITE, UNDER THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER WEB TAB.

I THINK THE CITIZENS HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW THIS.

IT ALSO, IF EVERY CITIZEN KNOWS THAT WE'RE SPENDING 3 OR $400,000, MAYBE THAT'LL CHANGE SOME CITIZENS POINT OF VIEW OF, WELL, MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T BE ABUSING IT SO MUCH BECAUSE IT'S COMING OUT OF MY POCKET.

SO THE PEOPLE NEED PEOPLE.

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION, NOT JUST COUNCIL, BUT EVERY CITIZEN.

AND I DO THINK IT SHOULD BE AN ANNUAL THING, AN ANNUAL REPORT COMING TO COUNCIL, BE IT A REPORT EXCLUSIVELY ON THIS SO THAT IT'S EASY TO FIND ON A WEBSITE AND EVERY CITIZEN WILL KNOW WHERE TO FIND IT.

IT'LL BE RIGHT THERE.

SORRY. NOT BURIED IN THE BUDGET SOMEWHERE WHERE NOBODY WILL EVER FIND IT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MANN.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP. I WOULDN'T AGREE WITH COUNCILLOR CYR THAT IT'S BURIED IN THE BUDGET, BUT WE REGULARLY, AT EVERY QUARTERLY REPORT DISCUSS THIS, WHICH IS WHY IN THE BEGINNING WE CREATED A RESERVE AND A BUDGET LINE FOR THIS AMOUNT AS A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET, BECAUSE WE WERE OVEREXTENDED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

WE CAN EASILY DO THE MATH RIGHT NOW AND I CAN THROW A NUMBER ON THE TABLE AND I'M PROBABLY WITHIN $100,000.

WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS TO DEATH AND THAT'S FINE.

BRING IT OUT. THAT'S FINE.

IT IS AN ANNUAL REPORT.

IT'S A VERY PROBLEMATIC NUMBER.

IT PROBABLY EQUATES TO COSTS FOR LAND PURCHASES OVER TIME.

SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF REDEVELOPMENTS, OF FACILITIES OVER TIME.

WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE.

AGAIN, ANOTHER GIFT FROM THE PROVINCE AND THEIR INABILITY TO ROLL IT OUT IN AN EFFECTIVE WAY PROVINCIALLY.

THEY ALLOWED SPECIFIC MUNICIPALITIES TO GO IN THEIR OWN DIRECTION WITHOUT THE LEVEL OF DIRECTION THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN. SO THEN WE WERE ALL AND WE WERE AN EARLY ADOPTER.

WE CHOSE TO WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AHEAD OF THE CURVE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE LEADING THIS.

WE'RE GOING TO DO. WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO RUSH TO THIS? LET'S DO THIS FIRST.

NO, BUT WE DID.

AND THERE WERE PROBLEMS. AND IT BECAME A WEAPON.

IT BECAME A TOOL.

IT BECAME VERY PROBLEMATIC.

AND I THINK RELATIONSHIPS HAVE BEEN DAMAGED BECAUSE OF IT.

AND WE SIT HERE TONIGHT IN A VERY DIFFERENT WAY THAN WE STARTED FOUR YEARS AGO.

BUT THAT'S IN THE PAST.

I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY OVER CERTAIN [INAUDIBLE] OR OTHERS, EVEN THOUGH COMMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE.

AND I DON'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE, BUT WE'VE MADE CHANGES OVER TIME OUT OF NECESSITY.

AND WE'RE AT THIS POINT TONIGHT, THE NUMBERS ARE ALL PUBLIC, I THINK, IN THE WAY IN WHICH IT NEEDS TO ROLL OUT, BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE WAS ONE NUMBER QUOTED A LITTLE WHILE AGO, AND I WHEN I HEARD THE NUMBER, I KIND OF SAID, I WISH IT WAS THAT NUMBER BECAUSE IT WAS THAT DRASTICALLY, UNFORTUNATELY,

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AND THE PROVINCE WATCHES THIS.

THERE ARE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE EVEN WORSE IN GETTING THINGS DONE.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE SHOULD BE PROUD OF THAT, BUT.

IT'S PART OF IT. AND I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO LEARN FROM THIS FOR THE FUTURE, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHO'S SITTING AROUND THE TABLE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

YES, THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, THROUGH YOU.

I AGREE WITH WHAT BOTH COUNCILLOR MANN AND COUNCILLOR PATRIE HAVE SAID, AND I'M SORRY, BUT I AM GOING TO MENTION NAMES.

I THINK E FOR HIM.

NO, I'M SERIOUS.

WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS NOT JUST HERE.

HOW IS THE TOWNSHIP OF THE NORTH SHORE? WHAT THEY DID DOWN THERE AS THE CITY OF [INAUDIBLE] OR THE TOWN OF [INAUDIBLE] WHAT THEY DID TO THEIR MAYOR, FOR GOD'S SAKES.

IT'S RIDICULOUS, RIGHT? [INAUDIBLE] I GOT IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, I HAVE BEEN GETTING EMAILS AND TEXT MESSAGES FROM COUNCILLORS ALL OVER NORTHERN ONTARIO SAYING, THANK YOU, SOMEBODY'S SUING [INAUDIBLE].

IT'S ABOUT TIME.

THEY HAVE COST ME A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY.

THEY'VE COST ME MY HEALTH.

THEY'VE COST COUNCILLOR PATRIE A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT HIS HEALTH, BUT I KNOW THEY'VE COST HIM A HELL OF A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE WE BOTH KNOW WHAT LAWYERS COST.

WE FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY.

AND IT HAS DESTROYED THE RELATIONSHIP ON THIS COUNCIL.

AND I THINK THE PEOPLE OF ELLIOT LAKE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT IT COST, AND IT'S NOT $300,000.

I THINK THAT WAS THE NUMBER THAT WAS THROWN OUT THERE, $370.

I MEAN, LORD, IT'S A HECK OF A LOT MORE THAN THAT.

OK, I WOULD LAY IT OUT.

IT'S A LOT MORE THAN THAT JUST FOR MINE.

AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE CITY SPENT ON MINE.

I DON'T. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO TELL ME.

IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT. I CAN TELL YOU WHAT I SPENT, BUT I WON'T.

MY BANK MANAGER WILL TELL YOU IT'S RIDICULOUS.

SO LET'S GET IT OUT ON THE TABLE.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AROUND THIS TABLE FOR A LONG TIME.

SO LET'S GET TRANSPARENT.

LET'S PUT THE NUMBERS OUT THERE, LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.

I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, WE COULD HAVE BUILT A HECK OF A LOT MORE ROADS, WITH THE MONEY THAT WE SPENT ON THIS INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FINAMORE.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP. THIS WHOLE SUBJECT MAKES ME WANT TO THROW UP.

SORRY, BUT.

WHEN I. FIRST SAW THE NOTICE OF MOTION.

I THOUGHT, NOPE, NOPE, NOPE.

BUT I'M TIRED OF DEALING WITH THIS.

I THINK PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE TIRED OF DEALING WITH THIS.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT PURPOSE IS TO DO THIS.

I DON'T WANT TO HIDE ANYTHING.

WE HAVEN'T HIDDEN ANYTHING.

IT'S BEEN VERY OUT IN THE PUBLIC.

EVERY WORD OF IT.

AND I THINK WE'VE MOVED PAST IT AS A COUNCIL.

I EVEN THINK SOME HEALING HAS BEGUN TO HAPPEN.

AND THAT MAKES ME HAPPY THAT THAT'S HAPPENED BECAUSE I'M ABOUT RELATIONSHIP BUILDING AND NOT DESTROYING.

I WISH THAT THIS REPORT COULD BE USED IN A DIFFERENT WAY TO SHOW THE PROVINCE, THE PROVINCE SEND OUT SURVEYS LAST YEAR FOR US TO COMPLETE ABOUT WHAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER.

AND I'M SURE THAT THEY GOT AN EARFUL FROM ALL OVER THE PROVINCE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DO IT RIGHT.

THEY SHOULD HAVE SET ONE STANDARD THAT EVERY MUNICIPALITY SHOULD FOLLOW AND ONE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER THAT DEALT WITH EVERYTHING AND NOT LEFT IT UP TO. WE HIRED THE PERSON WHO TRAINED US ON THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER BECAUSE WE BOUGHT INTO THE.

YEAH. OK MYTH IS A GOOD WORD.

WE BOUGHT IT HOOK, LINE AND SINKER, AND THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT VERY WELL.

I THINK THEY WANTED TO SET PRECEDENT WITH OUR COMMUNITY, AND I THINK THEY MANAGED TO DO THAT.

AND I REMEMBER GOING TO A CONFERENCE IN TORONTO AND SEEING LISTENING TO A PRESENTATION BY THEM, BRAGGING ABOUT HOW MANY COMMUNITIES THEY HAD BEEN ABLE TO CURB THEIR WAY THROUGH THEIR PRESENTATIONS ON THEIR EDUCATION THAT THEY USED ON WHAT THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER DOES.

WE'VE SPOKEN TO SENIOR LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT ABOUT THE MISTAKES THAT WERE MADE, AND THEY ASSURED US THAT THEY'RE LOOKING INTO IT.

WHO KNOWS WHEN THAT WILL HAPPEN.

BUT MAYBE THIS REPORT SHOULD BE FURTHERED ON TO OUR SENIOR LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT TO SHOW THEM WHERE TAX DOLLARS ACTUALLY WENT TO AND HOW THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONERS LOOK.

THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT. TRUST ME, WE'VE HAD THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE'VE HAD, BUT EVERY ONE OF THEM BEHAVES DIFFERENTLY, GIVEN US DIFFERENT RULES, DOES THE PROCESS DIFFERENTLY?

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SO EXCEPT TO FIRE THEM AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH WE FIND MAYBE ISN'T.

THE RAINBOW. EITHER.

I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST.

I'M JUST SORRY, BUT I'M JUST FED UP WITH THE SUBJECT.

IF IT'S TRANSPARENCY THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND WE HAVE TO BRING THESE NUMBERS FORWARD, THEN SO BE IT.

BUT THIS PROCESS WAS FLAWED FROM THE BEGINNING.

I HAD A CONVERSATION LESS THAN 15 MINUTES.

MAYBE TWO OR 3 MINUTES WAS ABOUT ME.

13 MINUTES OF IT WAS ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PAGES MY REPORT WAS SAID I LIED.

I WAS UNETHICAL.

AND YEAH, IT WAS RIDICULOUS.

I MADE A DECISION.

I MADE A CHOICE AT A COUNCIL MEETING, AND I STAND BY THE CHOICE I MADE THAT NIGHT.

BUT ANYWAY.

THE WHOLE THING JUST LEAVES A BAD TASTE IN MY MOUTH.

AND WHEN WE WENT TO OTTAWA THIS PAST AUGUST AND I WENT INTO SEVERAL DIFFERENT WORKSHOPS AND PRESENTATIONS, AND THERE'S SEATS IN THIS PROVINCE THAT WILL NOT BE FILLED BECAUSE OF THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER AND BECAUSE OF SOCIAL MEDIA THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT RUNNING FOR COUNCIL. PEOPLE WILL NOT PUT THEMSELVES OUT THERE.

PEOPLE WILL NOT.

ONE WOMAN RAN.

ONE WAS IN FOR FOUR YEARS, GAVE UP HER JOB IN ORDER TO BE A GOOD COUNCILLOR BECAUSE IN SOUTHERN ONTARIO IT'S THEIR RIDINGS ARE THEIR WARDS ARE HUGE AND NOT A LOT OF THEM ARE ABLE TO WORK A JOB AS WELL AS BE A COUNCILOR.

SO THEY'RE FULL TIME COUNCILORS TO BE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER TO DEATH AND TO BE SOCIAL MEDIA ATTACKED.

AND. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE SAD THINGS ALL OVER THE PROVINCE BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE REPRESENTED BECAUSE OF THIS INTEGRITY COMMISSION OR PROCESS THAT THE PROVINCE LAID OUT AND BECAUSE OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA TAX OVER THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER PROCESS THAT THE PROVINCE DID NOT DO PROPERLY.

SO. I DON'T KNOW.

I GUESS I'LL SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE IT IS NOTHING I WANT TO HIDE.

I JUST AM VERY TIRED OF TALKING ABOUT IT, HEARING ABOUT IT, OF WEARING IT, AND.

IT'S HARD TO DEAL WITH SOMETHING CONSTANTLY THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.

COUNCILLOR TURNER. THANK YOU, WORSHIP.

I'D SUPPORT THE MOTION.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE THE NUMBERS OR STATISTICS THAT COME OUT OF IT USED IN ANY WAY TO SLAG INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THAT'S THAT'S NOT THE INTENT.

THE INTENT IS TO JUST GIVE THE PUBLIC A SENSE OF THIS IS WHAT IT COSTS US.

WE'VE BEEN SADDLED WITH THIS LEGISLATION AND HAVE ANY CHOICE ABOUT IT.

WE FOUND THAT THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER PROCESS.

YES IT WAS WEAPONIZED AND USED FOOLISHLY SOMETIMES.

BUT IT STILL COSTS US MONEY.

NOW, WHILE I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF AN INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER, I AGREE WITH MY FELLOW COUNCILLORS, MY COLLEAGUES, THAT THE RULES ARE SO LOOSEY GOOSEY IN THE INTERPRETATION OF WHAT AN [INAUDIBLE] IS SUPPOSED TO DO IS SO WIDE AND VARIED.

AND IT DEPENDS ON WHICH [INAUDIBLE] YOU ASK.

SO THE MINISTRY OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS IS CERTAINLY NOT MOVING IN TO HELP US ANY WITH.

LACK OF GUIDANCE TO THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONERS.

SO, YEAH, LET'S GET THE LET'S GET THE NUMBERS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THESE THINGS BEING MADE PUBLIC AND OF ANY PROBLEM WITH ANY NUMBERS BEING MADE PUBLIC.

FILL YOUR BOOTS. LET'S MAKE A COMMENT AND THEN HAND IT BACK OVER TO COUNCILLOR CYR, IF AT ALL.

AND I GOT TO SAY THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PEARCE, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD BECAUSE NEXT COUNCIL COMING IN AND ANYBODY RUNNING NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE ONCE A COMPLAINT IS FILED.

YOU HAVE NO CONTROL ANYMORE.

THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER TAKES OVER.

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THE ONLY THING WE GET TO DO IS WAIT AND PAY BILLS.

PAY THE BILL, PAY THE BILL, PAY THE BILL.

AND AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, MULTIPLE DIFFERENT INTEGRITY COMMISSIONERS FOLLOW THEIR OWN RULES.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE MINISTRY NEEDS TO ADJUST SO THAT EVERYBODY IS IN THE SAME BOAT.

IS VERY UNFORTUNATE.

THE FIRST YEAR THAT THIS CAME FORWARD, IT WAS USED AS A WEAPON, NOT JUST BY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HIGHLY BY THE COMMUNITY, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY NOT REALIZING THEY JUST DON'T LIKE A MEMBER OF COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO FILE A COMPLAINT.

I DON'T LIKE THE MAYOR. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, I HAD 52 ALLEGATIONS IN A MATTER OF A MONTH, 52 ALLEGATIONS UNDER SIX COMPLAINTS WHEN YOU GOT A TEN HOUR WORKDAY. AND THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER INVESTIGATOR SAYS, I WANT A RESPONSE ON THIS, THIS AND THIS IN THE NEXT THREE DAYS, OR I WANT A RESPONSE ON THIS, THIS AND THIS IN THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS.

HOW MUCH WORK ARE YOU GETTING DONE THAT IS WEAPONIZING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT MEANT FOR THAT.

I AM VERY SORRY PERSONALLY THAT I EVER FILED A COMPLAINT AGAINST ANYBODY.

BECAUSE I KNOW HOW IT FEELS.

AND I THINK NEXT COUNCIL COMING IN, IF YOU GOT A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH SOMEBODY, TAKE IT OUT IN THE PARKING LOT.

I KNOW I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO CONDONE VIOLENCE, BUT TRUST ME, IT'S A LOT LESS PAINFUL TO GET PUNCHED IN THE FACE THAN TO GO THROUGH MULTIPLE ALLEGATIONS LIKE THAT.

DO IT. DO IT THE OLD WAY.

I'M SORRY. IF ANYTHING, THESE NUMBERS WILL BE EDUCATIONAL TO THE PUBLIC AND EDUCATIONAL TO COUNSELORS COMING IN, WORK TOGETHER, FIND A DIFFERENT WAY TO GET THROUGH THINGS. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHEN YOU SEE THE NUMBERS, YOU'RE GOING TO REALIZE IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE ONES FILING A COMPLAINT YOU'VE CONTRIBUTED TO TO THIS ALSO.

AS I SAID, ONCE THE COMPLAINTS FILED, IT'S OUT OF EVERYBODY'S CONTROL.

AND COUNCILLOR PEARCE HAS BEEN TAKEN FOR A TERRIBLE RIDE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE [INAUDIBLE] REGIME DECIDED TO APPEAL AND TAKE MORE MONEY FROM THE CITY.

AND I'M I'M VERY CONCERNED FOR FOR COUNCILLOR PATRIE BEING IN THE SAME SITUATION.

I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR THAT A JUDGE DRAGS THIS THIS OUT FOR AS LONG AS THEY'RE DOING SORT YOUR CRAP OUT.

THIS THIS GUY IS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING AND TRY AND MOVE MOVE FORWARD.

AND HOW DO YOU DO THAT WHEN YOU GOT THIS HANGING OVER YOUR HEAD? IT'S NOT OKAY. COUNCILLOR CYR.

THANK YOU YOUR WORSHIP THROUGH YOU.

I'M STILL ADAMANT THAT I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO MAKE THIS AN ANNUAL REPORT.

AND IT SHOULD, FOR THE CITIZENS SAKE.

IT SHOULD BE EASILY FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEB PAGE UNDER THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER, SO THAT PEOPLE WILL HAVE A CLEAR VISUAL, EASY TO FIND, CLEAR AMOUNT OF HOW MUCH IT'S COSTING US EVERY YEAR.

BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU GO, LOOK, I'M LOOKING THROUGH THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST A GLOBAL AMOUNT.

YOU CAN'T FIND IT.

THE DIRECT COST THAT IT'S COSTING THE CITY AND THE TAXPAYERS, LET'S MAKE IT EASY FOR TAXPAYERS AND FOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

BUT AT LEAST MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE ACCESS TO THE STAFF JUST LIKE THAT TO GET THE NUMBERS.

BUT THE CITIZENS DON'T HAVE THAT SAME ACCESS.

AND WE'RE DOING THIS FOR THE CITIZENS.

THE CITIZENS NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH THIS IS COSTING US.

MAKE IT EASY FOR THEM.

PUT IT ON THE CITY WEBSITE UNDER [INAUDIBLE], MAKE IT AN ANNUAL REPORT SO THAT IT'S KEPT UP TO DATE SO CITIZENS CAN MONITOR IT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. AND I'M HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP REDUCE THE USAGE AND INDISCRIMINATE ABUSE.

OKAY, BACK IT UP A SECOND.

COUNCILLOR CYR YOUR AMENDMENT.

JUST THE AMENDMENT.

I AM AMENDING IT TO MAKE THIS AN ANNUAL AMOUNT AND TO HAVE THE REPORT ATTACHED TO THE CITY WEBSITE UNDER THE HEADING OF THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER SO THAT IT CAN BE EASILY FOUND. OK SECONDER FOR THE AMENDMENT.

COUNCILLOR FINAMORE. THANK YOU.

YOU SAID YOUR PIECE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE COUNCILLOR MANN ON THE AMENDMENT? JUST ON THE AMENDMENT. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH COUNCILLOR CYR APPROACH.

HOWEVER, AT THE END OF A TERM, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO SADDLE AN INCOMING COUNCIL WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

IF THIS WAS THE BEGINNING OF A TERM.

I WOULD I WOULD ACTUALLY PROBABLY REQUEST A SECOND AMENDMENT TO SAY TERM OF COUNCIL AND LEAVE IT AT THAT.

I WOULD LEAVE THIS DIRECTION TO STAFF TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO THE NEW COUNCIL TO DECIDE ON WHATEVER MECHANISM, BECAUSE CLEARLY THESE ARE PUBLIC DOLLARS, IT SHOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE. BUT AGAIN, PROVIDING THAT DIRECTION, MOVING FORWARD TO ANOTHER GROUP.

I'M NOT REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH.

I THINK EVERYONE'S KIND OF HEARD THE GIST OF IT.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S REFRESHING.

WE ALL AGREE ON THIS, WHICH IS NICE, RIGHT? SO AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO MOVE AND GET IT OUT THERE.

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO KIND OF WORK WITH STAFF TO FIGURE OUT THE MECHANISM TO DO IT.

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COUNCILLOR PEARCE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.

YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCILLOR MANN.

I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DEALS WITH THIS TERM OF COUNCIL.

LET'S DO THAT. THE NEW COUNCIL CAN COME IN AND THEY CAN MAKE WHATEVER MOTION THEY WANT.

I WOULD, HOWEVER, ASK THE CAO.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF PUTTING IT UP ON THE WEBSITE.

I'M ASSUMING WE CAN DO THAT.

AND I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, WOULD WE HAVE THIS BY THE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH I THINK IS NOVEMBER, IF I'M CORRECT? NOVEMBER, OCTOBER 11TH, OCTOBER 11TH, OCTOBER 11.

YEAH. YEAH, THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION.

I HAD FOR COUNCIL IS IF THIS ONLY TAKES A FEW DAYS, DO YOU WISH TO WAIT TILL THE OCTOBER 11TH MEETING OR SHOULD WE PUBLISH IT BEFOREHAND OR CALL A SPECIAL MEETING VIA ZOOM EVEN JUST TO LOOK AT IT? [INAUDIBLE] BUT WHAT IF IT'S AVAILABLE TWO OR THREE DAYS FROM NOW? JUST LEAVE IT AS THE 11TH.

IT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.

GIVE THE TIME TO STOP IT.

IT DOESN'T MATTER. THE 11TH IS FINE.

I'VE BEEN WAITING OVER A YEAR AND A HALF FOR IT, SO I DON'T CARE WHEN WE GET IT.

COUNCILLOR FINAMORE [INAUDIBLE].

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT A LITTLE BUTTON ON THE WEBSITE AND THE DOLLARS ARE ALL TOUCHING TO CHANGE SOMETHING. FOR DESPERATE LAWYERS IN THE HINTERLANDS.

JUST ONE FINAL SUBTLETY, WHICH WILL BE EASIER GOING FORWARD AND A LITTLE BIT TRICKIER GOING BACKWARDS IS THAT CALLING THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER FOR ADVICE AND CONFLICT OF INTEREST ADVICE AND TRAINING IS ACTUALLY A BEST PRACTICE.

IT'S ENCOURAGED. SO SOME OF THOSE COSTS ARE VERY MINIMAL IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS AND WE'LL SEE THAT ARE BENIGN AND ENCOURAGED.

PLEASE PICK UP THE PHONE TO INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER AND ASK FOR ADVICE.

DO I HAVE A CONFLICT? WHAT DO YOU THINK? HOW DOES THIS HANDLE SO? SOME ELEMENT OF THOSE COSTS IS IS BUILT IN THAT WAY AND IT'S BENIGN AND ENCOURAGED.

SO IT WILL BE TRICKY ON THE BACK END, BUT GOING FORWARD IT WILL BE MUCH EASIER FOR FUTURE BILLS IF WE END UP DOWN THE PATH THAT COUNCILLOR CYR IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE CAN DIFFERENTIATE EVEN AS THE BILLS COME IN.

OK THAT'S THE BENIGN CATEGORY AND THAT'S THE COMPLAINT CATEGORY OR WHATNOT.

COUNCILLOR PATRIE. FOR CLARIFICATION FOR STAFF.

YOU MAY WANT TO SEPARATE THOSE.

I'M PROBABLY THE BIGGEST EXPENSE ON ON THAT LINE ITEM, MR. GAGNON. YOU KNOW, I TRUST ME, SINCE I'VE BEEN FILED AGAINST I CONTACTED THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER PROBABLY EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M FOLLOWING THE RULES AND THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING PROCESS.

SO I DO ASK THEM THOSE QUESTIONS OFTEN.

SO YOU MAY WANT TO MAYBE DIVVY THEM UP THAT THERE'S A COMPLAINT COSTING AND THERE'S A TRAINING COSTING BECAUSE THAT TRAINING IS VERY BENEFICIAL SO THAT THE ONE ONE DOESN'T CREATE THE OTHER.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND, WHEN YOU DO PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE THAT IT DOES BECOME [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH. I THINK THAT JUST TO SPEAK ON THAT, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD IDEA.

I JUST GO BACK TO THE YEARS OF THE DANIEL OMBUDSMAN'S REPORT THAT USED TO HAVE THOSE, THOSE YEARLY STATS.

AND I THINK BECAUSE OF THE CODES OF CONDUCT AND THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER REGIME, THE OMBUDSMAN'S OFFICE IS KIND OF OUT HERE. SO YOU GET THOSE YEARLY REPORTS WHERE EVERY COMMUNITY IS LISTED ON THERE AS ZERO INFRACTIONS.

AND I REMEMBER BEFORE PASSING THE CODE OF CONDUCT, A FORMER MEMBER OF COUNCIL SAYING ANYBODY CAN CALL THE OMBUDSMAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY TEETH.

THIS HAD TOO MUCH TEETH.

WE WENT FROM WAY OVER HERE TO WAY OVER HERE.

SO I THINK ACTUALLY HAVING THAT ON THE WEBSITE IS GOING TO HELP FUTURE COUNCILS IN REALIZING TO TRY AND FOLLOW THE BEST PRACTICES AND TRY TO TALK TO EACH OTHER. COUNCILLOR PATRIE.

IF I GIVE YOU A FOLLOW UP ON THAT YOUR WORSHIP, THE OMBUDSMAN IS ALSO WAITING FOR THE COPIES OF MY RELEASE FROM THE JUDGE BECAUSE THEY HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS WITH THE PROCESS AS WELL. AGAIN, YES, IT MAY NOT HAVE A LOT OF TEETH, BUT IF WE HAVE THE OMBUDSMAN SENDING OUT BEST PRACTICES, THAT WILL ACTUALLY GO TO [INAUDIBLE].

BUT THE OMBUDSMAN IS STILL CONTACTING ME EVERY MONTH ASKING YOU IF THE DECISION HAS BEEN RENDERED.

AND I GET IT. IT'S BEEN 14 MONTHS SINCE I'VE SAT IN FRONT OF THEM.

IT'S JUST UNHEARD OF THAT IT WOULD TAKE THEM THAT LONG.

WE DID ASK THE INTEGRITY OR WE DID ASK THE SITTING JUDGE A LOT OF HARD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER PROCESS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME PRECEDENT SETTING RULINGS.

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SO IT IS IT IS AN ASPECT THAT I WOULD [INAUDIBLE] TO FIX THIS PROBLEM SO THAT FUTURE COUNCILS, FUTURE MUNICIPALITIES AREN'T BANKRUPTED BY THIS.

I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE SEVEN FIGURES WHEN YOU START ADDING UP ALL THE NUMBERS OF THE STUFF THAT HAS BEEN SPENT OVER THE TIME.

MR. GAGNON TWO FINAL POINTS.

I SEE ABSOLUTELY ZERO EVIDENCE FROM THE MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS OF HOUSING THAT THEY HAVE ANY DESIRE TO TOUCH THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER REGIME DESPITE THEIR CALL FOR INPUT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. HOPEFULLY THEY'RE WAITING FOR FOR THE DECISION ON COUNCILLOR PATRIES' CASE OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE SO FAR I GET NOWHERE FROM SENIOR STAFF AND MID-LEVEL STAFF.

THERE IS NO NO EVIDENCE THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS LOOKING FORWARD TO TACKLING THIS REGIME.

AND I FORGOT WHAT MY OTHER POINT WAS.

[INAUDIBLE] THEY DID SEND OUT THAT, THAT REQUEST FOR INPUT AND THAT THAT WAS ALMOST A YEAR AGO NOW.

SO. OKAY, SO WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT ON THE TABLE.

I'M GOING TO CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO WHICH STATES MRS. BRAY IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. THANK YOU.

AND THAT THIS FINANCIAL INFORMATION BE REPORTED ANNUALLY TO COUNCIL AND BE MADE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

THANK YOU. ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DO NOT MISS. YEP.

YEAH. I'M GOING TO GET YOU TO READ THE WHOLE THING MRS. BRAY. OKAY. THAT STAFF BE DIRECTED TO BRING A FULSOME REPORT TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING DETAILING THE COSTS FOR THE VARIOUS INTEGRITY COMMISSIONERS, THEIR INVESTIGATIONS, THE COST FOR LAW FIRMS INVOLVED IN ANY OTHER COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER'S REGIME DURING THE LIFE OF THIS COUNCIL.

AND THAT THIS INFORMATION, SORRY, THIS FINANCIAL INFORMATION BE REPORTED ANNUALLY TO COUNCIL AND BE MADE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

THANK YOU. ROLL CALL.

THAT'S CARRIED. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CLAP.

YOU CANNOT CLAP IN HERE.

NO CHEERING, NO CLAPPING.

THIS IS A BORING AUDIENCE.

YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO ANY OF IT.

[14. COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS]

WE'RE GOING TO START OUT WITH THE FALL FAIR COMING UP THIS WEEKEND.

SO OCTOBER 1ST AT THE COLLINS HALL FROM 11 A.M.

TO 3 P.M., THE CITY IS HOSTING A FALL FAIR WITH ALL KINDS OF FUN ACTIVITIES FOR ALL AGES, INCLUDING A BAKING CONTEST.

AND THE FORMS ARE AVAILABLE, I BELIEVE, ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND ONLINE.

I'M JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING A JUDGE.

I'M SMILING JUST READING THIS.

THE FALL FAIR THAT IS FOLLOWED BY WE HAVE TUESDAY, OCTOBER 4TH.

THE ROTARY CLUB IS HOSTING THEIR REGULAR ALL CANDIDATES NIGHT AT THE COLLINS HALL, AND THIS EVENT BEGINS AT 6 P.M..

I'D ASK IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL PIECES BEFORE THE BIG TICKET ITEMS. COUNCILLOR PEARCE.

THANK YOU. YOUR WORSHIP THIS AFTERNOON, THE BOARD OF THE MISSISSAUGA PARK FOUNDATION MET WITH MINISTER PICCINI, HIS SENIOR STAFF.

THE MAYOR ATTENDED, AS DID THE CAO AND COUNCILLOR TURNER AND OUR FRIENDLY MPP.

AND I WANT TO THANK THE MINISTER FOR COMING.

HE DROVE TWO AND A HALF HOURS HERE AND TURNED AROUND AND DROVE TWO AND A HALF HOURS BACK FOR A THREE QUARTERS OF AN HOUR MEETING.

BUT IT WAS GOOD HE GOT A CHANCE TO SEE THE PARK.

HE GOT A CHANCE TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN TRYING TO MAKE THIS A WORKABLE PART BETWEEN THE THREE COMMUNITIES.

I THINK HE WAS VERY, VERY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED THAT THE THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE AND HOW WE'RE PROCEEDING.

HE MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT THE PROVINCE CONSIDERS THIS A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT, THAT THEY WANT TO USE IT AS A TEMPLATE GOING FORWARD WITH OTHER PARKS IN NORTHERN ONTARIO.

SO WE HOPE, BASED ON WHAT HE SAID TODAY, ALTHOUGH YOU CAN NEVER REALLY TELL, BUT WE HOPE THAT WE WILL GET SOME SUPPORT FROM THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT ON THIS MOVING FORWARD.

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THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY.

THAT WAS A GREAT VISIT.

VERY, VERY SHORT NOTICE, BUT A VERY FUN VISIT.

GOT TO SEE SOME GREAT STUFF AROUND THE PARK.

GREAT FEEDBACK FROM THE MINISTER WHO LOOKS FORWARD TO APPARENTLY SPEEDING UP THE PROCESS AND GETTING THE FOUNDATION DOING THEIR WORK.

AND IT WAS REALLY GREAT ACTUALLY FINDING OUT THE CRAZY NUMBERS COMING IN AND USING THE PROVINCIAL PARK AND SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE OVER THE YEARS AND SOME OF THE THE FUTURE PLANS FOR THAT INCREASED USE AND THE OFFER TO CONTINUE USING A NEW AND UPGRADED PROVINCIAL PARK RESERVE SYSTEM FOR OUR PARK GOING GOING INTO THE FUTURE, TOO.

SO ABSOLUTELY GREAT.

THANK YOU, MINISTER PICCINI, FOR COMING OUT.

AND THANK YOU TO SARAH FOR THE SOUP SANDWICHES AND COOKIES AND MORE COOKIES AND HER MOTHER'S SOUP, WHICH WAS ABSOLUTELY GREAT.

AND OUR FRIENDS FROM BOTH SERPENT RIVER, FIRST NATION AND MISSISSAUGA FIRST NATION COMING DOWN AND TAKING PART IN THAT.

SO THAT WAS THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY GREAT.

WE HAVE ANOTHER THING COMING UP.

SEPTEMBER 30TH IS NATIONAL TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION DAY.

MR. ANTUNES I KNOW, AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU OR MR. GAGNON CAN ANSWER THIS.

I KNOW THE INDIGENOUS FRIENDSHIP CENTER HAD REACHED OUT WANTING TO DO SOME KIND OF CEREMONY EDUCATIONAL SESSION UTILIZING THE COLLINS HALL ON THAT DATE.

HAVE THEY CONFIRMED TIMINGS FOR THIS? UNFORTUNATELY, NO, THEY HAVEN'T CONFIRMED THE TIMING.

THE I DO SENSE THEY'RE STILL SERIOUS ABOUT HAVING A BLANKET EXERCISE ON SEPTEMBER 30TH.

THE MINUTE WE GET ANY DETAILS, WE WILL ADVERTISE THAT WE OFFERED THE COLLINS ALL AS A GESTURE OF RECONCILIATION FOR NO COST, OF COURSE, EVEN IF IT'S ON A STATE HOLIDAY.

SO WE'RE PREPARED TO FACILITATE THAT WITH THEM.

BUT WE HAVE YET TO CONFIRM THE EXACT DETAILS.

BUT AS SOON AS WE HAVE THAT, WE'LL WE'LL SHARE THAT.

OF COURSE, MUNICIPALLY, THIS AS PART OF THE STATE HOLIDAY WILL BE CLOSED.

HOWEVER, THE COLLINS ALL WILL BE OPEN IF INDEED THEY DO PULL THE TRIGGER ON THE THE BLANKET EXERCISE WHICH AS COUNCIL RECALL WE HAD A BLANKET EXERCISE IN 2018 WITH WITH COUNCIL AND ALL OF CITY STAFF OR A LARGE CONTINGENT OF CITY STAFF.

SO WE'RE DEFINITELY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT EFFORT ON THE 30TH.

IF IT DOES, IT DOES PAN OUT.

AND WE HAD A TRAINING SESSION LAST WEEK WITH STAFF AND A FEW COUNCILORS WHO SHOWED UP AS WELL.

THANK YOU FOR THAT WITH THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION, WHO GAVE US A BIT OF A OF AN UPDATE ORIENTATION AND TRAINING.

I FEEL LIKE WE JUST SCRATCHED THE SURFACE, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON EDUCATION, AWARENESS FOR OURSELVES, FOR OUR STAFF AND FOR THE PUBLIC.

WHEN IT COMES TO RECONCILIATION AND ALL THE ELEMENTS OF THE NATIONAL TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMMISSION CALLS TO ACTION.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. AGAIN, ANY ADDITIONAL PIECES? COUNCILLOR TURNER. THANKS, YOUR WORSHIP.

NEXT NEXT WEEK, OCTOBER 1ST.

THE SEVENTH IS NATIONAL CADET WEEK, AND THAT'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S BEEN SERVICING THE COUNTRY, THE COUNTRY'S YOUTH, IN PARTICULAR, FOR OVER 100 YEARS.

ANNUALLY, THERE'S OVER 100,000 YOUTH INVOLVED IN THE PROGRAMS, AND THESE PROGRAMS HAVE ALLOWED THEM OPPORTUNITIES TO TRAVEL INTERNATIONALLY, LEARN TO FLY, LEARN TO SAIL, AND A MULTITUDE OF OTHER LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES.

FREE SUMMER CAMPS.

SUCH MANY OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE TO MANY OF THESE YOUTH JUST BECAUSE THEY'D BE COST PROHIBITIVE.

SO THE EXCUSE ME, THE LOCAL ORGANIZATION WILL BE IN CONTACT WITH YOU, ASKING IF THE CITY WOULD CONSIDER FLYING THE CADET ORGANIZATION'S FLAG FOR THAT WEEK.

AND WE'D BE VERY HONORED IF YOU DID.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. GAGNON. JUST HOLD OFF THE PRESS.

MR. ANTUNES JUST HANDED ME A POSTER FOR THE BLANKET EXERCISE FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH, AT THE COLLINS HALL FROM 10:00 AM TO 12:00 PM.

FREE ADMISSION.

WE KNOW WHERE THE ADDRESS IS.

YEAH. SO A BLANKET EXERCISE.

I WON'T TRY TO DO A JUSTICE AND TRY TO EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS.

IT'S A FREE EXERCISE FOR AWARENESS AND EDUCATION.

AND PLEASE COME OUT TO THE COLLINS HALL FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH AT 10 A.M..

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IT IS NOTHING LIKE A BLANKET PARTY THAT THEY DO IN THE MILITARY.

JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE.

WE'VE ALL SEEN.

YEAH. IF THERE'S NO OTHER PIECES GOING INTO OUR BIG TICKET ITEMS, WE HAVE RECEIVER GENERAL FOR CANADA WITH $79,500 [INAUDIBLE] MCCOWAN, ONTARIO WATER ACCESS PROPERTY INTEGRITY REP.

THAT'S A LOT. $26,300.

[INAUDIBLE] ELECTRICAL THE GENERATOR FOR CITY HALL $23,700.

I THINK THAT'S THE INSTALL BECAUSE IF IT WAS ONLY $27,000 FOR THAT THING, I WANT ONE HYDRO ONE NETWORK'S VARIOUS AREAS $47,600 [INAUDIBLE] $45,600.

THAT'S IT FOR A BIG TICKET ITEMS FOR THIS MONTH.

AND I'LL ASK ONE MORE TIME, IS THERE ANY MORE PIECES FOR THE COUNCIL'S REPORT? SEEING NONE THANK YOU. OKAY.

ADDENDUM. THERE IS NOT INTRODUCTION IN CONSIDERATION OF BYLAWS 16.1 BYLAW 22-98 BEING A BYLAW TO AUTHORIZE ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT WITH NEXT GENERATION 911

[16. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF BY-LAWS]

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR THAT IS CARRIED.

THANK YOU. 17 CLOSED SESSION.

IF APPLICABLE, THERE IS NONE.

WE DID IT IN OPEN SESSION.

SO THANK YOU MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FOR THAT CONFIRMATORY BYLAW.

[18. CONFIRMATORY BY-LAW]

22-99 BEING A BYLAW TO CONFIRM THE PROCEEDINGS OF COUNCIL AT ITS MEETING HELD MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2022.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR PEARCE SECOND BY COUNCILLOR TURNER.

AGAIN, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, QUALMS, QUERIES? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.

I'M IN FAVOR. THAT'S CARRIED.

THANK YOU. MOTION TO ADJOURN BY COUNCILLOR MANN SECOND BY COUNCILLOR FINAMORE AGAIN.

THANK YOU STAFF FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU TO MEMBERS OF PUBLIC FOR COMING OUT TAKING INTEREST THIS EVENING.

EVERYONE, HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

THIS MEETING'S NOW ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.